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in the 2010's a vietnam veteran reenlisted and to go to Afghanistan. he was rejected by 1 service but next accepted him.
Stop talking over your guests guys, we know what you guys sound like.. Especially a veteran...
Military standards are a great example of “Schrodinger’s Feminism” in action. People will argue that women should be allowed in the Infantry because they can do all the same things as men if they dedicate themselves.. while at the same time justifying the lower standards for women that exist in the first place by saying “well they’re just biologically different so they need to be lower”.
The argument is that raw physical standards are not what makes a good soldier. Not that woman are just as physically strong as men.
@@Lobardan imagine trying to run from gun fire and her cardio runs out
@@sneedandfeed or just dragging a guy dieing in the field away from danger
Men are more than just physically strong. Look at MMA Guru's videos making fun of Juliana Pena and Amanda Nunes. Pena runs at Nunes windmill punching like a toddler after 15 years of training. Men have better reaction time and perform under stress much more efficiently. That fight is the highest level of women's MMA. You don't even see that in low level men's MMA. Even street beefs channel. Women are emotional. They are social creatures and all of their attributes don't transfer to combat well
@SUCC THE THOTS
Allowing lower physical standards for females (or anyone, it SHOULD be offered to anyone if it's offered to females) should require higher standards elsewhere. In middle school females could run slower than males, but they had to do way better on the stretches tests. So the military lets them do less push ups, sit ups, slower runs etc... So where are the higher standards that evens it out? If they can't do 30 pushups, but can speak 7 languages, or have a crazy high academic score that relates to the specific job, then I'm 110% for it, but if it's JUST lowered standards and no pros? No respect. Not every job requires 30 pushups, some require other skills, make the specific job require what it needs, no matter the gender.
“I was Infantry” bro you lasted 4 months in the National Guard lol
He's just saying what he was going to be to add context to the story. He qualified himself several times, relax.
And how much time did you do?
The military has gone Woke. "Wahman are just as strong and capable soldiers as men!" ; also the military: "women only have to do 6 pushups"
Thats just a marketing thing. Its debatable how effective it was though
When I was a kid all I wanted to be was a soldier like Audi Murphy. It’s sad what our military and country overall has become.
Gone? Homie I joined in 2011 it was like that before I joined. It's been this way it's not a woke thing. It's about retention.
@@Zawfee god forbid someone inject a silly think like *facts* into the “woke military” narrative!
pushups are in fact the one thing that are equal between men and women on the new fitness test
Ex military. I never laughed more in my life than when I was in bootcamp. Straight comedy everyday
What branch bro?
It was absurd for sure
everyone turns into a comedian in basic training lmao
Bruh my basic was like a damn reality show, so much drama lmao
But did anybody else commenting or def the dudes on the video make it thru
Does Kyle let anyone speak for more than 10 concurrent seconds without interrupting?
When he likes the guest
@@jaredrobbins9247 yah kyle seems to really not like this guy
Both woody and Kyle seemed to not like him.
I'm pretty sure most of them didn't like this guy. He talks so authoritatively but he has no idea what he's talking about.
@@ME-ys6vl If you can't speak with confidence, you're just bitch-made. I don't like this guest either, but authoritative? Lmao okay bucko
I went through basic with women who failed in fitness and finished the final ruck march riding on the back of a truck.. They graduated regardless
Broken bone thing is a myth. My buddy broke BOTH of his ankles when he was a kid, and still made it in.
yea they deff dont give a shi bout that lmfaoo bariatric surgey on the other hand as u can tell from other dudes comment theyll tell you no😂
Depends. If you have rods and screws you can make it in but will require quite a few waivers and it will take a while
@@mathewserrano2262 Yeah I remember him being stressed out about it with the whole needing to be waived by doctors thing.
Woody pulls the spoon over is bottom lip every bite when he eats ice cream.
From my experience anything can be waivered, so all the people who claim they couldnt serve because of flat feet or bad eye sight or any other dumb thing probably never even tried
Woody reminds me ofJerry on Rick and Morty if Jerry was actually cool lol
I've always thought that 😂
I just came to this realization this morning
found woodys alt
He sure sounds like him lmao
I broke my arm at 14 and have hardware as well. I had to get waivers from 3 doctors and an X-ray tech. my medical file is textbook thick and I managed to join the navy 2 years ago.
Tried to join the army fresh out of highschool, was FIRMLY rejected because of a weight loss surgery I was forced to get at 11. Didn't know that was the case all through highschool so I was in ROTC and trained my ass off. After I was told there was no way in fuck I could go in I went into mainline pipeline construction. After surviving that shit for the past 6 years...basic always sounds like a cake walk lol. 20 mile walk? Fuck yes. Try running through the Rockies up and down mountains on a bending crew dangling from a tag line with a sideboom operator who gives zero fucks. Or working skid crew for 14 hrs a day 7 days a week. Seriously army should just ship their recruits out to pipeline work for their PT. That will find the folk that are really made for it.
when?
yea if u get bariatric surgery they wont allow you to re-enlist or join cs youve changed your digestive system wich requires a diet not mres
@@MJ-iw2fx when did I try to enlist? Through 2016-2018. Traveled the country working pipeline during that time and tried several different recruitment offices.
@@moneybilla Considering the amount of time since the operation that's bullshit. I don't need a diet. And didn't need one when I was 18. I can eat as much or as little as I need depending on the situation and my exertions. Even had the surgeon confirm that. 7 years after a gastric sleeve (which is what I had) my body has regrown the amount of stomach that was taken out. Hell you want proof a surgery like that doesn't stop you from putting on calories just look and Wings and boogie. I'm 165 rn and was 150 in highschool thanks to rugby and wrestling. They should have taken me. But oh well, ended up making more money and getting a better work out in my new chosen path. Seriously anyone wants to get in shape...hit A row of main line pipeline lol.
@@jacobevans489 when did anyone ask lol bozo
You're only ineligible if you've broken a bone that required surgery.
If you've ever had an injury and there is no physical evidence on your body just say you've never had a serious injury.
I'd be very surprised if they couldn't all run an 8 minute mile.
Average American can't run an 8 minute mile. Probably not even a 10 minute mile.
I laugh at the standards today. I quit high school to join and I was two pounds underweight (I weighed 123 pounds at 18 years old at 5'11" tall) and had to get a waiver for the two pounds. This was back in 1988 though, right before the Soviet Union collapsed. We had guys with Marty Feldman eyes, colorblind, missing a digit on the non-firing hand, or other minor issues, but all could hang and this was in the Infantry. It was the "Good of the Service" that mattered most back in the day, not a government sponsored social experiment.
They tell you to lie because paperwork, your not out due to issues, you just need waivers
*Military man makes a well informed statement from years of experience* Woody proceeds to furiously type to try and autistically fact check him.
To be fair he admitted that he wasn’t entirely sure what the rules was so it made sense for woody to check
He was wrong about the rules lmfaoo.
He literally said he left basic training lmdao
i had a heart surgery as a baby (3 months), broken collar bone at 5, jaw surgery at 14, tail bone surgery at 18 and still was able to enlist as infantry. i was injured during basic training at week 6 and had to restart and still graduated
this guy: CaNt HaVe BrOkEn BoNe REEEEE!!
cope
Almost everything he said was wrong lol
@@troutmask1228 I don't think that word means what you think it means
@@troutmask1228 you're not the most cooked muffin in the oven now aren't you bud?
This dude is a joke doesn’t get through basic knows nothing about military then starts trying to educate everyone about military standards. Most of that can get by without waivers and they give waivers for almost everything as long as the rest of you is healthy.
Boot camp is the initial filter, the rest are far more intensive. Boot camp is basically a joke now.
For someone who almost joined the military this guy has no idea what he is talking about
They are taking advice from an army wash out lol
And I doubt you even know either
@@michaeljennings4787 oh I think I have an idea...
As an active duty service member, I agree.
@@TheQuesadillaMan half right, face.
I went to basic in Fort Knox for the army and I can literally count on both hands how many times we had a scheduled run. The way they actually get your stamina up for running is by making you run when you’re doing anything aside from walking. Going back from chow? You run.. going to a bus? You better fuckin run. Etc..
there should be like a pre basic training fat camp type thing were they work on straight and conditioning for certain people who cant match up on day 1.
They absolutely do this, or used too at least. If you failed basic solely due to PT standards you'd be assigned an additional 6 weeks of basic that focuses solely on PT, literally nicknamed "the fat camp".
There is a program being run at Ft.Jackson right now that does exactly that as well as tutor guys to pass the ASVAB. The army is in need of soldiers in a BAD way right now
There are few tasks which require the sort of strength that a max number of pushup measures, however, it's an indicator of overall fitness. If you are able to do 50+ pushups in under 2 minutes, you are probably not just strong in pushups, you are probably in good overall condition.
50 in 2 minutes? Let me go check edit: nvm
I’ve been out a few years now but I’m pretty sure the minimum is 42 which is pretty sad if you can’t do 60 push ups on a pt test that’s sad😂
Nah I was in the army. Majority of ppl can do the required pt standard
it all depends on who your recruiter and liaison are
If you want to be treated equal then you should be treated equal on all things. Also I do not believe there should be a super tough limit just to get in but at the end of basic training if you have not improved to the acceptable mark then fair enough you are out. I bet there are people who might be overweight/unfit/weak when they sign up but want it bad enough to put in the work and bring themselves up to scratch & people that are willing to work harder because they know they need to catch up might be just the kind of soldier you would want next to you in a hairy situation. If people are laughing at you and writing you off but you refuse to quit and go that extra mile just to join then I would think you are made of the right stuff.
I know it would take time and money to allow recruits that are below par to still join but you could have them all in one company who agree not to be paid until passing out, food and equipment would be all you get until you prove yourself capable. This would ensure only people that are really serious about reaching the acceptable level would sign up.
If I am completely missing something that makes this impossible (V. Likely) then someone should open a bootcamp where aspiring recruits pay to spend 8 weeks getting trained to the standard needed to join their chosen force. Not only would this make money but would also give people 8 weeks to see if they are sure they really are up for the challenge ahead.
I need to stop writing comments when I'm stoned they tend to ramble on so long they need chapters.
Sorry 🚭
Red phase - i remember it being 2 weeks. Basically you will either always been running, or pushing to get everyone in shape and up to drill standard
white phase - still getting smoked, but the drill sergeants have less time to smoke since you are shooting and exercising so much
blue phase - still get smoked but always ends up being a fun session where the drill sergeants are just having fun, this is mostly finishing up requirements to graduate
between white and blue you will do like an 11 mile ruck march with about 3 10 minute breaks
the most you will run at a time in the army is 2 miles, most PT sessions are at most 2 miles of running and you will only run like 2 times a week
I was with 1-101 CAB. We ran pretty much everyday, it sucked ass lol
Went through basic in 06 with a 45 year old man. He made it.
You know his name was it kochuga, or like ….
@@thinktankt.v.podcast6351 Jones. Ex meth head crazy strong old white guy lol.
I got in after two ACL repairs and 4 screws. Just have to be prepared to make a lot of visits to doctors to get surgery reports and xrays and stuff.
Did you have all your medical records online at the time?
@@EmmettMontanaro No, and in fact I had to go to the paper archive of the hospital system, since the surgeon that worked on me had since retired and his office was closed
@@tjbr50 Haha they really made you work to get to work. I've heard now that recruiters can see your entire medical history in a minute it's gotten a bit more strict.
I guess my school friend lied about having broken his arm since he joined the MP for a few years
Nah you can join with a waiver
Recruiting standards change all the fucking time at the army's convenience. One month you're barred from enlisting if you ever took prozac, the next month they will browbeat a judge into commuting your manslaughter charge if Battalion readiness is low enough.
Whether or not you lie to your recruiter, theyre still going to look at your WHOLE medical history.
They used to not do this
Someone gotta sew them American flags on the sleeve 😂
No broken bones! There goes my chance for joining Space Force!
Talking between eachother not letting the guest get in a word. Guest speaks up, interrupted, repeats again once Kyle stops talking, interrupted again. Painful to watch. Guest constantly saying something and getting cut off mid sentence while Kyle and Woody just track on like the guest doesn't even exist.
Basically just a summer camp.
Tried to join here in Australia and at 17 I was in a car accident....soon as they saw that on my file they rejected me. My cousin had a werid view of the world and he was rejected due to his mental state.
It is hard to get in, another friend of mine tried to join the navy and they found an ingorwn hair that had caused an infection in his back. Turned out he needed surgery like 2 times and if he didn't get those surgeries he would have gone septic. They rejected him quick smart.
See it's not just about your ability to do the tasks. It's also they don't want to make your injuries worse then be on the hook insurance wise even when you get out. An officer friend explained it to me. They had a real problem with people getting through the screening and then claiming all these insurance claims for alements then all had. Cost the military a lot and still does to this day so they refuse people with exisiting conditions more on this fact then ability to perform the tasks. They don't wanna get taken for a ride by people who hide conditions and use the military hospitals and insurance to get it sorted. Then they would leave as soon as they could but they still get the benefits at least here in Australia.
So it's not a physical thing when you are rejected for breaking a bone or something like asthma. They don't want the risk of cost to their premium. Which is massive already.
Fort benning georgia us army infantry in 2013. Lot of running, pushing, bodyweight smoke sessions. Just don't quit, don't get everybody in trouble, try, and you'd be fucking fine.
recruiters dont want to do all the paperwork. theyl let anyone in this joke just didnt want to
Assuming 18-23 year old age range:
APFT Push-Up minimums:
Men = 42
Women = 19
ACFT (the current fitness test) "hand-release push-ups" mininums:
Men = 10
Women = 10
For push-ups, they have made it gender neutral now
However, in the ACFT, women still have lesser standards for everything else, including the deadlift...
I just finished basic training man you’d be surprised we got profile warriors now 💪🏻
Ya I went to meps a few weeks ago and did everything and my recruiter and his sergeant sat me down and asked me about everything and I had messed up the c5 and c7 discs in my neck from wrestling and they both told me don’t say anything and if they ask I just got pt and it wasn’t anything major
I didn't really have any issues with my record from about 8 years ago. Just more work for the recruiter and if you qualify for the right job they WILL allow almost anything.
Bruh another cute girl psyop 😔🙄
When I went through boot camp I knew it's all I had. It made it alot easier knowing there's not much of a choice. I sucked at running but I ran and ran knowing the only choice was to make it or pass out. I would say the cold was the worst pain. My boot camp officially started in the beginning of January and it snowed a few times. Being outside in general was punishment. I miss aspects of bootcamp, you see sides of people you would never see outside of it.
Worst for me was the gas chamber
They could all do it because the drills make you do it.
In the marines, we don’t have any differences for jobs. PFT and CFT standards are the same for every MARINE, regardless job. Woody with another awful take. Every Marine a rifleman first, MOS specialist second. Can’t speak for the army though.
They literally just changed them within the last 6 months because too many women were failing the ACFT, and I'm not talking about the leg tuck, I couldn't do a single one those stupid ass things and I have a 3 minute plank.
They are "BUILT DIFFERENT!".
When my dad was in, it was 60 push-ups and 2 miles in 10-12 minutes, that was in 81.
Many of the standards to get into the military make no sense. Like the broken bone part, has nothing to do with an individuals ability to serve. I don’t think Basic Training in the Army was that difficult.
Can confirm I left active duty in spring 2020 the ucmj doesn’t apply to chicks or current groups from Africa
There’s a lot of running, you will work yourself up to faster and father distances. Granted I hated the running would walk long distance than run. It’s @ 4 mile run at 14 mins required.
i broke my leg and i went through the process and the army paid for my GED tests but they just want me to go get my leg checked out by an orthopedist which ill do when we have a good president.
Rip your leg then😔
When I was in the army I could walk the 2 miles in the time the women had to "run". My numbers may be off cause it's been so long, but at 21yo I had to run 2 miles in 15:30, I believe. Women had almost 21 minutes. Same with pushups and situps. Atrocious standards. I thought the men's standards were too low tbh.
Also, just lie about your medical history when you join. They don't call every hospital in the u.s. to make sure you aren't lying.
Aidan doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Guy in my high-school ran the mile in 4 minutes and some change...never broke a sweat was a cholo type. Cool guy name was Carlos. 4 MINUTES dude that's insane
Infantry OSUT (one station unit training) which is basic and AIT together we only did maybe 4 group runs and did any running pt on our own
You train to your heart rate
I'm not sure who this guy is, but he's continually talking out of his ass
A general already said woman fold like a fu**ing crouton
Same shit, different decade
Recruiters do tell you to lie . It's hilarious
Not anymore. They have a new system called genesis that finds all medical history
The thing is, at least for the Canadian forces. Is every career path does the same basic. Infantry members are right next to clerks and dentists. So boot camp is useless, for us it’s 10 weeks and the first 5 you go over sexual assault and basic things like ranks. You learn to March, you get uniform on week 6, you learn to see, you get a gun on week 7-8, you start 5k rucks and jogging a couple times a week (like 2-3 times) and don’t get ammo and you learn to keep it within reach at all times and not point it at people, week 9 you learn to shoot targets. Week 10 is a drill in the field where you camp for a couple days and staff show up and fire blanks and make you go for a run. And from the us forces guys I’ve seen at basic, they say we have a harder time for qualifications basic military ( and officers) qualification
Woody could physically do basic but mentally absolutely not
And the old army physical test is push ups sit ups and a 2 mile run
I'm surprised if breaking a bone they wouldn't let u join. if I remember correctly, correct me if I'm wrong but if u break a bone and that heals doesn't the bone at which where it was broken would be a little stronger than before.
They are not drafting YOU 😂😂😂
I’d much rather have a female next to me in combat than that guy 😂
Chafing…. Chafing is the real enemy.
lol this clearly was a guest kyle didn't respect, he was talking as if the dude wasn't there, sometimes while he was mid sentence jesus
I can run half a mile and kinda jog the rest. I'm 35 fat and smoke cigarettes. I can walk all day and night carrying a heavy pack. I'll get there just not fast .
The broken bone thing is complete bullshit
Yeah lol I think he only thinks that cause he didn’t realize the only reason the recruiter didn’t want him to bring it up is so they can process him faster.
This Kyle guy is super biased through out this whole conversation and it's very agrivating. Like trying to say something bad about a teenagers favorite football team.
Carrying 120lbs on your back and then running isn't very hard. They should lower the standard for basic + make it gender neutral to get more women and then keep it job specific after that. Positions like drill sergeant, sniper, interrogator or gunner wouldn't be harder for women at all, they may be even better fit for it. When it comes to infantry or sec ops commandos tho..
@@dylancounte1448 You're smug and should go back to reddit
@@dylancounte1448 All you're doing is smugly throwing insults. You won't refute anything I said
What is this dude talking about? Lmao Combat MOS arebin completely different cycles (OSUT) than everybody else lol. Not sure why you’d lie about falling out of basic but 80% this guy Is😭😭😭
I'd say 5-6 miles a day is about right
I like how they interrupt this guy. I've seen his content and he always throws super liberal takes in and White self hating takes in.
Kinda smart bring a hot girl in and all the guys will try harder 😂
Jesus christ half of this was two or three of you talking over each other
It has nothing to do with feminism, the army wants more recruits, but the slogan "die for our wars" isn't as catchy as "women are as strong as men". It's capitalism 101
Unwatchable this episode.. a talk over constantly
any man that says they suffer from anxiety should be neutered
Really?
I feel like Kyle dosent like the dud below him.
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