The 'Independent' State Montenegro during World War II (1941 - 1944)

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  • This video is about the Axis puppet state of Montenegro during World War Two. It was called the Independent State of Montenegro. Montenegro WW2 history is a part of the history of Yugoslavia during World War II. In the Second World War Montenegro was first occupied by Italy and later by Germany. When Montenegrin collaborator Sekula Drljević wanted to create an Axis-aligned puppet state it led to the Montenegrin Uprising (1941). Just als elsewhere in Axis-controlled Yugoslavia there were two resistance groups: Serbian-oriented forces-the Chetniks (led by Draza Mihailovic)-and the Communist-led forces-the Partisans (led by Josef Broz Tito).
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Комментарии • 243

  • @HistoryHustle
    @HistoryHustle  4 месяца назад +26

    AXIS INVASION of Yugoslavia (1941):
    ruclips.net/video/PGWRiN9Y4vg/видео.html
    CROATIA during World War II:
    ruclips.net/video/lpou33h-KrU/видео.html

  • @ShubhamMishrabro
    @ShubhamMishrabro 4 месяца назад +239

    What i have seen in the Balkans is that people always talk about atrocities done on them but not by them. This creates a cycle of revenge.

    • @gusloader123
      @gusloader123 4 месяца назад +1

      Bingo! I was thinking of the very thing which you mentioned. {[ Proof of your statement is in one of the replies posted by someone, I will not mention his name, but anyone reading the comments can probably figure it out.]}
      About 1/3 of my former U.S. Army National Guard Unit was activated from Part-time status to Full-Time and sent to be U.N. Peacekeepers in the former Yugoslavia (at Camp Bond Steel) about 2004/2005. My Company First Sergeant headed the group. He came back to the States later and told us: "Those people are CRAZY! They want to kill anyone that is not exactly like them and does not attend the same church or mosque as they do." That sums up rather well what I have heard and read from other people that have been to the Balkan region.
      I do not like communists or dictators, but,,,, Tito did keep a lid on the simmering cauldron of "Yugoslavia" from the end of WW2 until his death. About the end of his funeral ,,,, it seems that the lid came off the simmering cauldron of the Balkans area hate, and it started boiling over and Serbia seems to be a huge part of the problem. It was a hotheaded Serb that started WW1 by murdering the Crown Prince of Austria-Hungary while on a visit.
      Croats, Serbs, Bosnians, Herzegovinians, Montenegrins, Albanians, Kosovars, Macedonians need to take a lesson from the 1700's/1800's/early 1900's in big cities in the U.S.A. such as: New York City (New Amsterdam). It started out as a Dutch settlement, then the English came along, and then some Irish, and Italians and Jews, and Greeks and several other flavors and varieties. A large Roman Catholic church on one street, and the next street over a Dutch Reformed church, and the next street over has a Greek Orthodox Church, and a Synagogue on the next street. And an Episcopal Church Then some Chinese moved in and later the U.N. building was erected so that every kind of food and religion and language is spoken there. {There is crime, but it is usually thieves and drugs and sex crimes NOT the kind of ethnic/religious craziness that the Balkan region is famous for.}

    • @ivancertic5197
      @ivancertic5197 4 месяца назад

      Do you guys think that only officially recognised crime of genocide on terytorry of Montenegro during WWII, doesn't deserve to be mentioned in video about Montenegro in WWII?​@@gusloader123

    • @ivancertic5197
      @ivancertic5197 4 месяца назад +8

      ​​​​@@gusloader123 Do you guys think that the only officially recognised crime of genocide on territory of Montenegro during WWII, doesn't deserve to be mentioned in video about Montenegro in WWII?

    • @ivancertic5197
      @ivancertic5197 4 месяца назад +8

      ​​​​​​​​​@@gusloader123
      And thanks for such a nice and informative story about history of New York. It's quite good to have perspective of locals, for it is hard for me from another side of the world to know and understand problems that occur in your community. Regarding that, i was wondering, have you ever tried to found out perspective of locals, on above mentioned questions of Balcan history? Maybe you would hade even better understanding of problem? Let me be so bold to try and give you one of local perspective: Just few days ago, it was approved by UN, resolution of Srebrenica genocide. If you are informed about that, you know that around 8000 Bosniak men were killed by Serbian forces, and that happened roughly 30 years ago, and it still sparks an argument amongst Balkan nations. To put in perspective, when Yugoslavia started collapsing, it was little more than 30 years since Serbs were victims of genocide, when by communist accounts almost 800 000 Serbian women, children and men where victimes of Bosniaks, Croats, Albanians, Bulgarians and Hungarians. And same as memories of atrocities of Srebrenica are still fresh today after 30 years, and it woud be unimaginable for Bosniak people to be ruled by Serbs, you can imagine how Serbs felt, when 30-40 years after genocide that they suffered, they should put themselves in mercy of Bosniaks, Croats and Albanians respectively and live under their rule. I haven't lived then, but i can understand fear that they felt and can see how that fear could lead to actions that were not reasonable. Additionally, you can change perspective of archduke Franz Ferdinand assassination by looking at it as a elimination of one of the leaders of occupying force of Gavrilo Princips (hotheded Serb) home country of Bosnia. Sadly and tragically, accidentally he killed archduke's wife, which he regretted deeply. To put in perspective, would it be considered negative if some hotheaded Czech killed Hitler and Eva braun in 1939, while he was visiting German occupied Czechoslovakia, and if that served as an excuse for Germans to start WWII instead of some border skirmishes with Poland? Would you said that hotheaded Czech started WWII?

    • @gusloader123
      @gusloader123 4 месяца назад

      BTW - I do not live in N.Y.C., but I have watched, read and listened to many history lessons and I mentioned N.Y.C. because it is known worldwide. That City in the 1930's to 1950's is a small geographic area, but it had people and religions from all over the earth. If those people can get along then it is high time for the people in the scenic Balkans to put down their weapons and start farming and catching fish and growing sheep and goats and doing business with each other and encouraging travelers and vacationers to visit the Balkan countries! The dead from WW1 and WW2 and the post Tito years are in the graveyards and cannot be healed.
      Time to spread the peaceful message of Jesus Christ to the neighbors instead of killing and bombing people in the village on the other side of the river, mountain, valley!
      There is a fine-looking Hotel someplace in the former Yugoslavia, but it is completely empty because of hotheads in the area. The local hotheads would rather kill people than welcome visitors. You and the other residents could have tourists (who bring cash money) to your area as the southern Greeks towns/villages and across the Adriatic in Italy. From what I have read / heard about the only part of the former Yugoslavia that has gotten better after Marshall Tito died is Slovenia.
      P.S. I wish somebody would have killed Adolph Hitler in 1938. That would have stopped the invasion of Poland in 1939 and the resulting horrible WW2. One dead unemployed Austrian painter / lunatic / Jew-hating, childless, unmarried, ranting vegetarian would have been a good thing.
      P.P.S. - I have no relatives in the Balkans. I have zero blood connections or religious connections to anyone or anyplace in the Balkan region. My heritage is mostly English and a little Swedish. I live in a small city in the upper Mid-west of the U.S.A., and if you look in the local phone book or read the city newspaper you would see many of the surnames are German or Scandinavian. There is a War Memorial / dedication plaque in the center of town listing the names of the men that served in WW1 and WW2 and Korea & Vietnam and the G.W.O.T., many are German surnames. They served in the U.S.A. military and may have fired shots at enemy soldiers from Germany. They were Americans now, not Europeans anymore.
      We have 5 Lutheran churches, a R.C. church & school, two Baptist churches, a Pentecostal group, a Nazarene church, and we all shop at the same grocery store in town, and the kids all play on the same sports teams.
      About once a year there is a Norwegian Polka music trio that gets together, and people dance to Norwegian accordions and eat Norwegian fish for dinner. It can be done. Remember your heritage without getting violent.
      If the river wants to flood, then many of the people in town get together to fill sandbags and place them on the riverbanks. Nobody asks whether you are a R.C. or a Lutheran or a Baptist. They work together for the betterment of the city, and nearby farms. The Clinic / hospital treats anyone.
      A hundred years ago their Great grandparents married the German kids and Swedish kids and Icelandic kids on the farms in the state and built churches that used Scandinavian and German hymnals and bibles. Now it is all English/American speak.
      Our enemy is not the people in a different church / chapel in town,,,, our enemy is the cold winter and the spring floods and summer heat. Why not talk to your neighbors and get them to cooperate with the people in the villages near you?

  • @stephanottawa7890
    @stephanottawa7890 4 месяца назад +51

    Thanks, Stefan. No wonder the Montenegrins were not happy with Italy taking a fourth of the country! What happened to Prince Michael? He seems to be the most noble of the bunch.

    • @bingbongster
      @bingbongster 4 месяца назад +2

      We also gained all of sandžak and boka wasnt a part of the kingdom of montenegro

    • @bingbongster
      @bingbongster 4 месяца назад

      Prince michael spent his last years crying about the communist he wasnt worthy of his last name

    • @amarillorose7810
      @amarillorose7810 4 месяца назад +15

      Michael had recognized and acknowledged the Unification of Montenegro with Serbia, renouncing the throne. In World War II he was held prisoner by the Nazis after refusing to take up the throne of the Axis forces' re-established Montenegrin puppet-state. From its founding in 1946, Michael Petrovich spent his years as an active political dissident of the Communist regime and worked to bring about its downfall. He was a member of the revolutionary Serb Liberation Movement Fatherland, aimed at gathering the Serb diaspora and internal dissidents in an effort to destroy the Yugoslav Communists. In 1947 he took up residence in Belgrade and Prince Mihailo accepted the position as Head of Protocol at the Ministry for Foreign Affairs. Eventually disappointed with Tito because of Tito antiserbian policy and in disagreement with him, he returned to France with his family in June 1948., he is buried in the Serbian Orthodox Church cemetery in Paris.

  • @DRFelGood
    @DRFelGood 4 месяца назад +32

    Thanks!

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  4 месяца назад +14

      I am once else extremely grateful for your donation. Have a good weekend and cheers from the Amazone 🇧🇷

  • @tonnywildweasel8138
    @tonnywildweasel8138 4 месяца назад +41

    Another great one ! Your channels, (and Mark Felton's), have teached me so much. Thank you Stefan 👍
    Greets from Grun' 🇳🇱, TW.

  • @adoramus
    @adoramus 4 месяца назад +22

    I am so thankful to you for showing us the most obscure aspects of WW2. All the best to you and your family.

    • @AshourAnn
      @AshourAnn 3 месяца назад

      Wow, must be something you just heard of yourself for the first time

  • @aidankitson7877
    @aidankitson7877 4 месяца назад +12

    Thanks Stef for another scholarly piece. Countries who need to put words like " independent "(Independent State of Croatia) or & "Democratic" ( Democratic People Republic of Korea) in their title are usually the opposite of what they are called

    • @robg9236
      @robg9236 4 месяца назад +2

      Or "United", like United States of America.

    • @Alabamanhistorian
      @Alabamanhistorian 3 месяца назад

      Or people republic of China

  • @DRFelGood
    @DRFelGood 4 месяца назад +6

    Many Thanks Stefan for sharing this piece of history with All. Have a great weekend! Cheers 🍻

  • @KikirikiSemenke357
    @KikirikiSemenke357 3 месяца назад +2

    Krsto Popovic had two sons, both were Partisans - one even had The People's Hero award. Partisans even tried to negotiate him to join but he refused.
    Drljevic was killed in Austria presumably by Djurisic's Chetniks as a revenge. Djurisic and Drljevic were distant relatives. Djurisic tried and separated of Mihailovic and mad an agreement with Drljevic to connect him with Ustashe to pass through their territory and surrender to Western Allies. But both Ustase and Djurisic didn't stick to the agreement and it resulted in the Battle of Lijevce Polje where his group was defeted.
    Djurisic and almost all the officers in his group) was tried by his own man (under the supervision of Ustase) and sentenced to death. They were probably killed in Stara Gradiska even thoughe their names were not on the list of Jasenovac and Stara Gradiska concentration camp victims.
    Most of Montenegrin Chetniks were either destroyed by Partisans in the Battle of Neretva or by Germans before the Battle of Sutjeska because they count on alliance with Germans but they had another plans.
    Sorry of such a long post.

  • @BazHimself
    @BazHimself 3 месяца назад +8

    I remember my dad telling me as a kid that the italians in Northern Montenegro got beaten like sacks of rice by the locals constantly, only having the capability to take the southern parts around the littoral and cetinje area

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 месяца назад

      Thanks for sharing.

    • @BazHimself
      @BazHimself 3 месяца назад +1

      @@HistoryHustle the locals were usually armed with a pistol or a gun due to a law in the Kingdom of Montenegro that mandated every male citizen over the age of 18 be armed with a pistol, it was a setup for disaster to try and occupy shepherds that were notorious for being violent by the turks, let alone ones armed to the teeth

    • @RatkoAsanovic
      @RatkoAsanovic 3 месяца назад

      That is very true. My grandfather was one of those who was beating them very very badly in the mountains of Vasojevic tribe. In Andrijevica for example they fu**ed Italians quite badly in that occasion. He was telling me that there was no worst soldiers than Italians. On top of that my grandfather was telling me that they were quite weak men, cowards that they would cry like little girls when they would encounter our soldiers from the mountains. Back at the time Italians were making quite a damage to civilians where they would kill civilians, pillage and burn villages all over and that was what made our men quite mad about them. But when they would encounter our soldiers all you could see is their backs in a run.

  • @mammuchan8923
    @mammuchan8923 4 месяца назад +8

    Never a dull moment in the Balkans. Very interesting video thanks Stefan. I hope you are still enjoying your travels 😎

  • @davidsike734
    @davidsike734 4 месяца назад +7

    Thanks Stephan for the history, I travel in that area frequently having married a Serb and now own a weekend house in Grza. Montenegro is quite mountainous and must have been a challenge for the Axis occupiers. I toured the Bay of Kotor and am familier with it even a submarine hideout the guide pointed out during the tour. It's a very beautiful area including Budva.

  • @Hillbilly001
    @Hillbilly001 4 месяца назад +8

    Another excellent video Stefan. Cheers from Tennessee

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 4 месяца назад +6

    Another wonderful historical coverage video was shared by an excellent ( History Hustle) channel about Popped (independent) Montenegro 🇲🇪 during WW2, which was exploited by Axis powers more than keeping it as supposed to be an independent state

  • @Akyplaygame
    @Akyplaygame 4 месяца назад +7

    Do a video on Government of National Salvation (German installed Serbian government that took power on Serbian territory)

    • @KraljStefan-ey3bo
      @KraljStefan-ey3bo 3 месяца назад

      Power in Serbia was in hands of Germans, german gauleiters,german generals and german divisions. That "govermment" was created for German interests and they killed Serbs( partisans, chetniks) etc.

  • @jaksabarac5944
    @jaksabarac5944 4 месяца назад +4

    Bay of Kotor was never part of Montenegro pre 1945.
    It was part of Dalmatia.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  4 месяца назад +1

      The people of Montenegro that time felt differently.

    • @crnogorskosrce5351
      @crnogorskosrce5351 3 месяца назад +4

      @@HistoryHustle Agreed. The unification of Montenegro and Boka was proclaimed on October 29, 1813 in Dobrota, near Kotor. The declaration on unification was signed by a group of unification supporters from Bay of Kotor (Alviz Josipov Visković and others).
      However, the Congress of Vienna in 1814 - 1815 decided that Boka Kotor should be forcibly annexed to Dalmatia, i.e. Austria. Russia did not agree with the demands of Montenegro and Boka Kotor that the people's will be respected and that country be recognized. Even Russia threatened the Montenegrins in case they organize an armed defense of Boka Kotor, and financial aid to Montenegro was also terminated.
      All this is easily verifiable.

    • @francine895
      @francine895 3 месяца назад

      This is the religion and culture.How come Catholic people and church in orthodox Montenegro ( better say Serbia)

  • @sleepyjoe7518
    @sleepyjoe7518 3 месяца назад +3

    Monetenegrin is Srbia

  • @MR_ponki
    @MR_ponki 4 месяца назад +5

    finally someone made a video on this topic, thank you!

  • @lldsll7395
    @lldsll7395 4 месяца назад +6

    I love learning about relatively niche history like this, shows all the nuances. Great work!!

    • @AshourAnn
      @AshourAnn 3 месяца назад

      You sound like you would believe in everything without evidence. Even if i say aliens invaded Montengro during ww2

  • @CheeserCeaser
    @CheeserCeaser 3 месяца назад +1

    I have waited so long for this.

  • @peterschief9778
    @peterschief9778 4 месяца назад +4

    You show maps but don’t make them broad enough to have contexts

  • @67nairb
    @67nairb 4 месяца назад +8

    5:36 that's the Serbian flag.

  • @yja496
    @yja496 4 месяца назад +4

    Interesting and well presented.

  • @theodorossarafis7370
    @theodorossarafis7370 3 месяца назад +7

    Outstanding job as always. It is interesting to note that after the Balkan wars and World War 1 Prince Nikola 1st of Montenegro was stating that they are Serbs!!!

  • @jankusthegreat9233
    @jankusthegreat9233 4 месяца назад +4

    Another awesome video

  • @crnogorskosrce5351
    @crnogorskosrce5351 3 месяца назад +10

    In Montenegro in 1918, everyone was in favor of unification with the South Slavic brothers, but on equal grounds. The problem arose when Montenegro was first annexed to Serbia before that unification. The Greens were for the entry of Montenegro into a new state with its name and its centuries-old dynasty, Petrović Njegoš. Serbia had other plans and supported unconditional unionists - the whites. Since the fateful year of 1918, tensions between the national Montenegrins and the national Serbs have lasted until today.

    • @bratori222
      @bratori222 3 месяца назад +4

      It's not annexed. Montenegrin parliament declared unification with Serbia. You can't call something annexation just because they voted against your wishes. The thing about tensions after 1918 between Montenegrins and Serbs is also false and it's something only Montenegrin nationalists claim to exist. Luckily for Montenegro those far right extremists are in minority.

    • @amarillorose7810
      @amarillorose7810 3 месяца назад +2

      @@bratori222 Correct, It was not annexation, but unification. The Grand National Assembly in Podgorica made a decision to unconditionally unite the Kingdom of Montenegro with the Kingdom of Serbia. An absolute minority called greens protested and were in disagreement with it, but even they were not against unification, but had a different idea of what it would look like, they wanted King Nicholas in power instead of his grandson Alexander. Crown Prince and heir of the Montenegro throne Michael (mentioned in the video) had recognized and acknowledged the Unification of Montenegro with Serbia, renouncing the throne. In World War II he was held prisoner by the Nazis after refusing to take up the throne of the Axis forces' re-established Montenegrin puppet-state. From its founding in 1946, Michael Petrovich spent his years as an active political dissident of the Communist regime and worked to bring about its downfall. He was a member of the revolutionary Serb Liberation Movement Fatherland, aimed at gathering the Serb diaspora and internal dissidents in an effort to destroy the Yugoslav Communists. In 1947 he took up residence in Belgrade and Prince Mihailo accepted the position as Head of Protocol at the Ministry for Foreign Affairs. Eventually disappointed with Tito because of Tito antiserbian policy and in disagreement with him, he returned to France with his family in June 1948., he is buried in the Serbian Orthodox Church cemetery in Paris.

  • @funnyname8004
    @funnyname8004 3 месяца назад +2

    I find it sad how everyone tends to forget about Montenegro and it's history, it has a very interesting history :(

  • @peterschief9778
    @peterschief9778 4 месяца назад +5

    You’ve done a good job on this. But being an Australian your quick movement of the map means I still don’t know where Montenegro is exactly.

    • @stewartdalton3298
      @stewartdalton3298 4 месяца назад +2

      We can always use Google maps 🤔
      Greetings from Gippsland, Victoria 🇦🇺

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  4 месяца назад

      👍

  • @ivancertic5197
    @ivancertic5197 4 месяца назад +18

    Nice video, very informative.
    I would like to add that same as in Independent state of Croatia, there were genocides against Serbs in Independent state of Montenegro. One of examples is Velika massacre (officially recognised as "Genocide in Piva and Velika" and condemned by Montenegro parliament only in 2022) when Germans, Albanians and Bosniaks exterminated whole village, mostly women, children and elderlies, in unimaginably sadistic ways. Only few survived, those that were in resistance groups or scattered across mountains. My grandpa was from that village, and was already in concentration camp and ironically survived because of that. I grew up listening real life horror stories of atrocities committed there in village of Velika, and of aftermath, like what he found out when finally came home and to his wife, or at least whats left of them. Testimony that send shiver down the spine.

    • @JeffEbe-te2xs
      @JeffEbe-te2xs 4 месяца назад

      Left out the genocide done by the Serbs which continues today

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 4 месяца назад +4

    Always fascinating!

  • @jawa011
    @jawa011 4 месяца назад +1

    In the entrance of Cetinje and its surroundings, there are still Italian WW2 Bunkers...

  • @theodorossarafis7370
    @theodorossarafis7370 4 месяца назад +1

    So many puppet states great information. Thank stefan

  • @CARL_093
    @CARL_093 4 месяца назад +2

    thanks bro

  • @gibraltersteamboatco888
    @gibraltersteamboatco888 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video. Thanks. Z

  • @romaineimagee3859
    @romaineimagee3859 4 месяца назад +3

    Awesome documentary

  • @AshourAnn
    @AshourAnn 3 месяца назад

    This is like 2 kids were playing war with toys with water instead of bullets, and now giving importance,

  • @ralfgroh2719
    @ralfgroh2719 3 месяца назад +1

    Excellent presentation; keep them coming! And thanks!

  • @daffyd5867
    @daffyd5867 4 месяца назад +1

    Always interesting.....thanks..👍

  • @rjames3981
    @rjames3981 4 месяца назад +3

    Interesting 👌

  • @martinhogg5337
    @martinhogg5337 4 месяца назад +1

    Been to Budva on holiday. Montenegro is a beautiful place! Would like to go back someday.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  4 месяца назад

      Visited Budva also. Beautiful place.

  • @deutschermichel5807
    @deutschermichel5807 3 месяца назад +3

    Reinstate the Montenegrian Prince-Bishopric

  • @albertarthurparsnips5141
    @albertarthurparsnips5141 3 месяца назад

    A fellow ( Stefan ) hailing from the land which is home, by all accounts, to the globe’s tallest folk,..on average,..v e r y closely followed by the Montenegrins in those stakes. Anything to do with cheese & grilled meat consumption, respectively ?..

  • @Sersto1
    @Sersto1 4 месяца назад +1

    8 minutes

  • @strahinjatopalovic2540
    @strahinjatopalovic2540 3 месяца назад +2

    Great video

  • @МиркоБогоевски
    @МиркоБогоевски 4 месяца назад +7

    Hi Stefan come to Macedonia be my guest in Bitola its a beautiful city and make a video about war crimes against Macedonian population

  • @zillsburyy1
    @zillsburyy1 4 месяца назад +1

    so many countries inside of one country

  • @LuigiMario-e1s
    @LuigiMario-e1s 2 месяца назад

    The Whole Balkans Was an Albanian Territory.

  • @paulohenriquenettodealcant6578
    @paulohenriquenettodealcant6578 4 месяца назад +1

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @aleksandarnikolic2743
    @aleksandarnikolic2743 4 месяца назад +2

    👍👍

  • @Weeboslav
    @Weeboslav 4 месяца назад +8

    Weirdly enough,both "greens" and Partisans are seen as heroes in the eyes of Montenegrin nationalists. Best example of that is current anthem of MNE,where some verses were altered by sekula drljevic and are still used...

    • @crnogorskosrce5351
      @crnogorskosrce5351 3 месяца назад

      '' The river will roll towards us, jumping into two seas, and will carry the word to the ocean that Montenegro is eternal.'' What is wrong with this text?

  • @justanapple8510
    @justanapple8510 4 месяца назад +1

    Probably the first comment! Good video!

  • @ChristianMapperReal
    @ChristianMapperReal 3 месяца назад

    I only knew there was a puppet state of montenegro i didn’t know anything about it

  • @janelo2
    @janelo2 3 месяца назад +2

    Takk!

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 месяца назад

      You're welcome. Thanks for your donation 😃

  • @alex4our3hree66
    @alex4our3hree66 4 месяца назад +8

    Cool video, I knew of this topic but never saw anyone on youtube talking about it. Just one thing, the population of Montenegro, so called "Montenegrins", are just Serbs (Montenegrin is a regional term just like Bosnia, Morava, Banat etc). It's the same as if you would say a Bavarian and a German.

    • @danielm9252
      @danielm9252 4 месяца назад

      What a stupid comment.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  4 месяца назад +6

      Historians and Montenegrins would claim otherwise.

    • @alex4our3hree66
      @alex4our3hree66 4 месяца назад +6

      @@HistoryHustle "Avoid those names Bosnian, Dalmatian, Srbijanac, Montenegrin, because someone will find justification to make separate nations out of those provincial names..." -Sava Tekelija, he predicted this way back in 18th century. On the other hand regionalist traitors like aforementioned Sekula Drljević will want you to believe otherwise.

    • @bingbongster
      @bingbongster 4 месяца назад +5

      Montenegro is comparable to austria

    • @amarillorose7810
      @amarillorose7810 4 месяца назад +5

      Indeed. Prince Michael as well all Petrović dinasty sonsidered themselves Serbs. Prince Michael had recognized and acknowledged the Unification of Montenegro with Serbia, renouncing the throne. In World War II he was held prisoner by the Nazis after refusing to take up the throne of the Axis forces' re-established Montenegrin puppet-state. From its founding in 1946, Michael Petrovich spent his years as an active political dissident of the Communist regime and worked to bring about its downfall. He was a member of the revolutionary Serb Liberation Movement Fatherland, aimed at gathering the Serb diaspora and internal dissidents in an effort to destroy the Yugoslav Communists. In 1947 he took up residence in Belgrade and Prince Mihailo accepted the position as Head of Protocol at the Ministry for Foreign Affairs. Eventually disappointed with Tito because of Tito antiserbian policy and in disagreement with him, he returned to France with his family in June 1948., he is buried in the Serbian Orthodox cemetery in Paris.

  • @jakegarvin7634
    @jakegarvin7634 4 месяца назад

    Reporting from youtube mobile-land, no silly Stefan that's just a statue!

  • @RHball
    @RHball 4 месяца назад +5

    Nice video, Man. I was always interested in Yugoslav history during the Axis occupation and Montenegro and Serbia don't get talked about as much as the NDH.

    • @ivancertic5197
      @ivancertic5197 4 месяца назад +4

      It's understandable why. It was same on European level, focus is rather on nazi ruled Germany and their crimes, Auschwitz and Holocaust, rather than for example occupied Norway and Denmark and their collaborationist government. I mean, negative impact on human civilisation is not identical, we could agree. Same could be said for Croatia run by Ustashe, Jasenovac and state organised genocide against Serbs Jews and Romani, and on the other hand Serbia and Montenegro occupied by Germans and Italians and actions of their collaborationist government. Nor the crimes, or their importance and negative impact on human civilisation, or on the future developments in the region, are the same.

    • @JeffEbe-te2xs
      @JeffEbe-te2xs 4 месяца назад

      Left out the Serbian genocide which continues today

    • @MarkoKraguljac
      @MarkoKraguljac 4 месяца назад +2

      @RHball You noticed that you have ustaša coat of arms as part of your avatar?

    • @RHball
      @RHball 4 месяца назад +1

      @MarkoKraguljac thats not ustasha. If you are talking about the first white field, first go learn about croatian history, Thanks.

    • @MarkoKraguljac
      @MarkoKraguljac 4 месяца назад

      @@RHball So why is current Croatian coat of arms different today?

  • @denethorr3
    @denethorr3 3 месяца назад

    Great video Stefan! It’s also interesting to note how much these complex historical periods influence modern day nationalism in all modern Yugoslav statelets. In Montenegro the greens are depicted as the most important part of the nationalist archetype, mostly celebrated by the Muslim part of the population weirdly enough.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 месяца назад

      Interesting to read.

    • @crnogorskosrce5351
      @crnogorskosrce5351 3 месяца назад

      If there were no Greens in 1918 and Partisans in 1941, there would not be an independent Montenegro today. Although the Greens and the Partisans were in conflict during the Second World War, today's national Montenegrins inherit the ideas of both factions because both the Greens and the Partisans were in favor of maintaining Montenegro as a subject. That is why the greatest allies of the national Montenegrins today are those who share the idea of ​​Montenegro being equal for all ethnic groups - Bosniaks, Albanians, Croats, Roma, etc. On the opposite side are the descendants of whites and Chetniks, mostly Serbs.

    • @denethorr3
      @denethorr3 3 месяца назад +1

      @@crnogorskosrce5351 I only mentioned that it was weird how the biggest Montenegrin nationalist today are Muslims and Catholics, the exact same people who supported fascism in Bosnia&Herzegovina and Nazi Croatia. The fact you didn't mention the Serbs among the equals only confirms what I said.

  • @lilbang5018
    @lilbang5018 3 дня назад

    Premature

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  2 дня назад

      yes

    • @lilbang5018
      @lilbang5018 2 дня назад

      @@HistoryHustle nah your content is good i just wrote it unintentionally

  • @intel386DX
    @intel386DX 3 месяца назад

    Today Montenegro is still pupet state.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 месяца назад

      I see.

    • @crnogorskosrce5351
      @crnogorskosrce5351 3 месяца назад

      @@HistoryHustle We are a small country with a big history. If it wasn't like that, we wouldn't even be on the Map.

  • @nerozero8266
    @nerozero8266 4 месяца назад

    👍

  • @rob5197
    @rob5197 4 месяца назад +1

    History is full of countries created, disappeared, conquered, split in separated regions and will continue to be so that's why the conflict in Ukraine is an unnecessary and wasteful tragedy

  • @coling3957
    @coling3957 4 месяца назад +2

    Another country i'm never really sure is a real place... :D

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  4 месяца назад +3

      Montenegro surely is but the Axis puppet state not really.

  • @ironzombie39
    @ironzombie39 3 месяца назад +1

    Correction:
    It was a Governorate of Fascist Italy, not a Puppet State
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_governorate_of_Montenegro

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 месяца назад

      I read books and I refer to those.

  • @Robert-xx8jx
    @Robert-xx8jx 3 месяца назад

    Hoi4 moment

  • @ivancertic5197
    @ivancertic5197 3 месяца назад

    Hi Stefan, i don't know whether you noticed previous comments, but i'm wondering, whether you were aware that there was a recognosed act of genocide in Montenegro during WWII (Genocide in Piva and Velika), and i was puzzled about why you didin't mention that?

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 месяца назад

      Feel free to share sources. I haven't read anything on what you mention in my literature.

    • @ivancertic5197
      @ivancertic5197 3 месяца назад

      @@HistoryHustle It's understandable, those crimes were never investigated, analysed or talked about during communism. They weren't even known to broader Montenegrin public, that is until recently. Only in 2022, Parliament of Montenegro recognised and condemned genocide, and called for investigation and commemoration. You won't find anything in english regarding topic, and even if you google "Genocide in Piva and Velika", you can only find news articles regarding recent acknowledgement. The topic is quite local and never sparked regional, let alone internationally interest, but you can find some enthusiastic chroniclers who wrote about those days, testimonies of survivors, and some low profile historians with family ties to those areas, who didn't want to let those victims be forgotten. But all of them are in Montenegrien language:
      Branko M. Paunovića - Velika, velika po vjekovnoj patnji (Velika, grate for it's centennial suffering);
      Branko Jokić - Pokolj u Velici (Velika massaker);
      Vasilj Jovović - Zločin u Velici 28. jula 1944. godine (Crime in Velika 28. july 1944);
      There's a web presentation of Velika village, where one of the segment is dedicated to genocide comited there (www.velika.me/srp/28-jul-1944 ), with list of victims, pictures and transcripts of documented witness testimonies and pictures of some of the victims. But again, everything is in montenegrien. I can offer to translate some of the materials, if you are interested in some specific detail. Only thing i found there in english is a summary of committed crime: www.velika.me/index.php?page_id=874&lang=engleski

    • @ivancertic5197
      @ivancertic5197 3 месяца назад +1

      @@HistoryHustle It's understandable, those crimes were never investigated, analysed or talked about during communism. They weren't even known to broader Montenegrin public, that is until recently. Only in 2022, Parliament of Montenegro recognised and condemned genocide, and called for investigation and commemoration. You won't find anything in english regarding topic, and even if you google "Genocide in Piva and Velika", you can only find news articles regarding recent acknowledgement. The topic is quite local and never sparked regional, let alone internationally interest, but you can find some enthusiastic chroniclers who wrote about those days, testimonies of survivors, and some low profile historians with family ties to those areas, who didn't want to let those victims be forgotten. But all of them are in Montenegrien language:
      Branko M. Paunovića - Velika, velika po vjekovnoj patnji (Velika, grate for it's centennial suffering);
      Branko Jokić - Pokolj u Velici (Velika massaker);
      Vasilj Jovović - Zločin u Velici 28. jula 1944. godine (Crime in Velika 28. july 1944);
      There's a web presentation of Velika village, where one of the segment is dedicated to genocide comited there (www.velika.me/srp/28-jul-1944/ ), with list of victims, pictures and transcripts of documented witness testimonies and pictures of some of the victims. But again, everything is in montenegrien. I can offer to translate some of the materials, if you are interested in some specific detail. Only thing i found there in english is a summary of committed crime: www.velika.me/index.php?page_id=874&lang=engleski

    • @ivancertic5197
      @ivancertic5197 3 месяца назад

      @@HistoryHustle It's understandable, those crimes were never investigated, analysed or talked about during communism. They weren't even known to broader Montenegrin public, that is until recently. Only in 2022, Parliament of Montenegro recognised and condemned genocide, and called for investigation and commemoration. You won't find anything in english regarding topic, and even if you google "Genocide in Piva and Velika", you can only find news articles regarding recent acknowledgement. The topic is quite local and never sparked regional, let alone internationally interest, but you can find some enthusiastic chroniclers who wrote about those days, testimonies of survivors, and some low profile historians with family ties to those areas, who didn't want to let those victims be forgotten. But all of them are in Montenegrien language:
      Branko M. Paunovića - Velika, velika po vjekovnoj patnji (Velika, grate for it's centennial suffering);
      Branko Jokić - Pokolj u Velici (Velika massaker);
      Vasilj Jovović - Zločin u Velici 28. jula 1944. godine (Crime in Velika 28. july 1944);

    • @ivancertic5197
      @ivancertic5197 3 месяца назад +1

      @@HistoryHustle It's understandable, those crimes were never investigated, analysed or talked about during communism. They weren't even known to broader Montenegrin public, that is until recently. Only in 2022, Parliament of Montenegro recognised and condemned genocide, and called for investigation and commemoration. You won't find anything in english regarding topic, and even if you google "Genocide in Piva and Velika", you can only find news articles regarding recent acknowledgement. The topic is quite local and never sparked regional, let alone internationally interest, but you can find some enthusiastic chroniclers who wrote about those days, testimonies of survivors, and some low profile historians with family ties to those areas, who didn't want to let those victims be forgotten. But all of them are in Montenegrien language:
      Branko M. Paunovića - Velika, velika po vjekovnoj patnji (Velika, grate for it's centennial suffering);
      Branko Jokić - Pokolj u Velici (Velika massaker);
      Vasilj Jovović - Zločin u Velici 28. jula 1944. godine (Crime in Velika 28. july 1944);

  • @luishernandezblonde
    @luishernandezblonde 4 месяца назад

    I wonder if you can make a video about the Vietnamese famine of 1944-45, which was done by Vichy France and Japan? Shame how this famine was largely neglected and ignored, compared to the similarly horrendous famines in Greece, the Netherlands and China at the same war. The famine presented a tragically missed opportunity for the Allies, especially when the Vietnamese were aspiring for independence after being brutally turned as "Poland 2.0" by France and Japan.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  4 месяца назад

      ruclips.net/video/0XNyKNLvvek/видео.htmlsi=q3HLtOMfYVkEnDDC

  • @samuelstephen8147
    @samuelstephen8147 3 месяца назад

    You haven't talked about Milan Nedic and his collaborationist government yet.

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 месяца назад +2

      You haven't looked good. I have made a video about Serbian collaboration.

  • @nightgirlgreece
    @nightgirlgreece 3 месяца назад

    Macedonia is Greece. Its name is Skopje

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 месяца назад

      Lol.

    • @nightgirlgreece
      @nightgirlgreece 3 месяца назад

      @@HistoryHustle Macedonia is a region in Greece

    • @nightgirlgreece
      @nightgirlgreece 3 месяца назад

      @@HistoryHustle it's official name is " North Macedonia " since 2019 but it has nothing to do with Macedonia 🇬🇷 so its true name is Skopje

    • @mr.researcher55
      @mr.researcher55 3 месяца назад

      @@nightgirlgreeceIf you see Makedonia as Greek, because Slavs are not native there etc. why do you support Serbs (Slavs) and claim Kosovo is Serbia?

    • @nightgirlgreece
      @nightgirlgreece 3 месяца назад +1

      @@mr.researcher55 because Kosovo is part of the Serbian heritage and Albanians started immigrating Kosovo in the early 20th century so they are not native

  • @SGT51
    @SGT51 3 месяца назад +1

    You forgot you mention that montenegro was annexed by serbia , and it was not voted to join serbia

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 месяца назад

      When?

    • @SGT51
      @SGT51 3 месяца назад

      @@HistoryHustle right after the first world war , the serbian army marched in to cetinje (royal capital at the time) and forced the montenegrin king Nikola petrović and 120 of his generals and officers in to exile , soon the installed a puppet pro serbian goverment and removed the montenegrin orthodox church and istalled the serbian one , and started cleaning the country of anyone who was against the pro serbian goverment, in the proces they destroyed villages and small town leaving 30k civillians with no home , theri whole plan was to remove montenegro and its church from the history books (then the christmas uprising happend)

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 месяца назад +1

      I understand but irrelevant regarding the topic of this video.

    • @SGT51
      @SGT51 3 месяца назад

      ​@@HistoryHustle you said that the people of montenegro voted to join yugoslavia which is not true , they were forced , you mentioned montenegrin četniks which never existed (četniks were only serbian),
      And lastly Krsto popović was not killed by Titos men , he was killed by serbian angents

    • @_Jebb_
      @_Jebb_ 3 месяца назад

      @@SGT51 Krsto was killed by commies. One of his murderers later became a communist party official and was a president of Montenegro.

  • @dnaseb9214
    @dnaseb9214 3 месяца назад +1

    Not a puppet, a dream fufilled

    • @HistoryHustle
      @HistoryHustle  3 месяца назад

      ?

    • @dnaseb9214
      @dnaseb9214 3 месяца назад

      @@HistoryHustle
      The Montenegro dream of indépendance and self determination.