Croatia during World War II (1941 - 1945) - The Independent State of Croatia (NDH)
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- The Independent State of Croatia (NDH) was Croatia during the Second World War. What happened in Croatia during WW2? The Independent State of Croatia (NDH) was established when the German invasion of Yugoslavia was still going on. Led by the Ustaša organization under the leadership of Ante Pavelić. The Ustashas committed many crimes against Serbian and Jewish people.
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This video is not made to insult Croatians. I know that this subject is sensitive to some Croats. Nevertheless, I think it is important to also discuss this dark chapter in Croatian history.
Truth can never be a bad thing.
@@NemanjaBGD83 who's "they"?
@@NemanjaBGD83 Your country was created at Berlin Congress in 1878. Before that Serbs were part of Ottoman Empire While Croats did not have full sovereignity they still had statehood in form of Sabor all the way from 1102. when they crowned Coloman 'till formation of Yugoslavia.
@@NemanjaBGD83 well since both of my grandfathers were in Partizans and so were majority of Croats at the end of ww2 shows you either don't know your history or are just typical Croat hater. Well what is it?
@Kafa kafica When have Serbs had their parliament?
Very interesting yet a tragic story.
#1 Thanks for your reply!
Just to know, Bosnian Muslims in NDH were regarded as Croats, and many fought in NDH military. Also, many Muslims were in the government. Many of them escaped after WW2 to Syria, and fought against Israel.
Thanks for sharing.
@@HistoryHustle Also, there were many muslim battalions within the Ustasa Army. A good example is the "Crna Legija" (Black Legion". These guys were mostly Bosnian Muslims from Sarajevo.
fought in Six Days War?
Yeah well long live Israel and thankfully Croatia is an official and proud ally of ISRAEL!
SMRT FAŠIZMU!
And SLOBODAN PRALJAK IS A HERO for fighting and killing those traitorous Muslims that killed Christian Croats and Serbs.
Croatia and Bosnia belongs to CHRISTIANS both Catholic and Orthodox.....
Those Muslims now sold their surname and religion for a free dinner.....
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@@ankokunokayoubi 1948 Arab Israeli War
As an Italian, I am perplexed, why did the Italian fascists, who wanted to take the whole territory of Yugoslavia, and forcibly Italianise the peoples of the region, and also carry out mass murder, helped Slavic fascists, with opposing ideas?
Obviously I think that the crimes of the Croatian fascists also fall on the Italian fascists, given that the latter helped them, let's not forget that the Italian troops carried out massacres in those territories, both against the Slovenes and the Croats, also having brutal camps of imprisonment, where even children were imprisoned, some died in those camps.
As an Italian I can only apologize.
Thanks for your reply, Alex. Soon more about the Italian occupation of Yugoslavia.
what are you talking about ? Italy never wanted the whole territorry of the artificial state of yugoslavia, the wanted Dalmazia not the interior lands. They helped the Ustasha movement because they had the comon enemy - yugoslavia that is pure tactical decision, same as have been done until today for every posible country.
@@satrapish «Faced with a race like the Slav, inferior and barbaric, one must not follow the policy of the sugar, but that of the stick. The Italian borders must be the Brenner, the Nevoso and the Dinaric (Alps). Dinarics, yes, the dinarics of forgotten Dalmatia!… Our imperialism wants to reach the right borders marked by God and nature, and wants to expand into the Mediterranean. Enough with the poems. Enough with the evangelical nonsense ».
Benito Mussolini 1920.
@@alexs7189 I am Croat, i know what Mussolini wrote but it didnt manifested that way. Theori is one thing but practic policy another. The contract signed in Rome 18 may 1941 established a border and it wasnt like this, not even 20 % what Mussolini and iredenta in Italy asked before.
I think that they were forced to by the Germans
I am Hungarian, and I actually never heard of Ustasha before. I only heard Serbs were the bad guys always, it is hard to realize history is teached differently country by country. Thank you for this great commentary video.
Thanks, Túri.
Documentary about Croatian ustashas during WW2: ruclips.net/video/412HAk-izmM/видео.html
The Serbs were bad, because of their evil (they killed Croatian politicians, intellectuals, all the money went to Serbia, the Croats had less rights), some Croats founded the Ustasha to take revenge on them. I don't support the Ustasha
That is democracy... World doesn't know about that large genocide
@@worldtube7425 Documentary about Croatian ustashas during WW2: ruclips.net/video/412HAk-izmM/видео.html
Italian General Alessandro Luzano wrote letter to Mussolini:
Dear Duce,
My boundless devotion to you, I hope, entitles me to deviate in some way from strict military protocol. That is why I hasten to describe to you an event that I personally attended three weeks ago.
While visiting the districts of Stolac, Capljina and Ljubinje (between 60 and 130 km north of Dubrovnik) - I learned from our intelligence officers that Pavelic's Ustashas had committed a crime in a village (Prebilovci) the day before, and that when it became known, the surrounding Serbs will be upset again.
I have no words to describe what I found there. In a large school classroom, I found a slaughtered teacher and 120 of her students! No children were older than 12! Crime is an inappropriate and naive word. It overcame any madness! Many had their heads cut off and lined up on school desks. The Ustashas pulled out the hoses from the torn entrails and, like New Year's ribbons, stretched them under the ceiling and drove them into the walls with nails!
The swarm of flies and the unbearable stench did not allow us to stay there longer.
I noticed a torn bag of salt in the corner and was shocked to find that they were slaughtering them slowly, salting their necks!
And just as we were leaving, a child's grunt was heard in the back seat. I send two soldiers to see what it is. They took out one student, he was still alive, he was breathing with his throat cut in half! I take that poor child to our military hospital in my car, bring him back to consciousness and learn the full truth about the tragedy from him.
The criminals first, in turn, raped teacher Stana Arnautovic and then killed her in front of the children. Eight-year-old girls were also raped. During all that time, a gypsy orchestra brought by force sang and hit the tambourines!
To the eternal shame of our Roman church, one man of God, one pastor, participated in all this! The boy we rescued recovered quickly. And as soon as the wound healed, with our carelessness, he escaped from the hospital and went to his village to look for relatives. We sent a patrol after him, but in vain; they found him slaughtered on the doorstep of the house! Out of a thousand or so souls, there is no one left in the village!
On the same day, we discovered that later, when a crime was committed at the school, the Ustashas captured another 800 inhabitants of the village of Prebilovci and threw them all into a pit or killed them in an animal way on the way to the pit. Only about 300 men were saved.
They were the only ones who managed to break through the Ustasha ring around the village and escape to the mountains! Those 300 survivors are stronger than Pavelic's most elite division. Everything they had to lose they lost! Children, women, mothers, sisters, houses, property. They are free even from fear of death. The meaning of their life is only in revenge, in the terrible reveng - they are, in a way, even ashamed that they have survived! And Herzegovina, Bosnia, Lika, Dalmatia are full of such villages as Prebilovci.
The massacres of Serbs have reached such proportions that many water springs have been polluted in those areas. From a spring in Popovo Polje, not far from the pit into which 4,000 Serbs were thrown, reddish water erupted, I was personally convinced of that! An indelible stain will fall on the conscience of Italy and our culture, if, while the time is right, we do not distance ourselves from the Ustashas and prevent it from being attributed to us for supporting insanity!
A harrowing account, thanks for sharing this.
As an Italian I say that it was also our fault, we invaded Yugoslavia, and helped the Croatian fascists.
@@alexs7189 Yes, you occupied Yugoslavia, you created a problem for us with the Albanians in Kosovo when you occupied it, but you saved many Serbs from Croatia, otherwise the number, which was already huge, would be doubled, we will always be grateful to you for that. If Woodrow Wilson had not interfered in the London Agreement from 1915, where Serbia and Italy would have got the territories that rightfully belonged to them, the Italians would not have been on the side of the Germans in WW2 and many events would have been much different. Great injustice was done to both you and us after the First World War.
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As a viewer from Zagreb, I really hope you make more footage and videos while you're here!
I recorded another episode in Zagreb, here:
ruclips.net/video/nF2LebBRGNU/видео.html
As a Croat I think that too many Croats know too little about this part of our history.
It is dark and embarrassing but its part of our history.
We shouldn’t be proud of it but we shouldn’t forget it either.
Thanks for your reply.
Mi to dobro znamo neznam što pričaš
Prvo ne nisam Srbin. Hrvat, sam rodio sam se i živim u Hrvatskoj. Drugo, ti možda znaš o tome, ali reci to onima koji pjevaju ustaške pjesme, dižu desnicu i viču Za dom spremni! na, recimo, Thompsonovim koncertima ili negdje drugdje.
Ja baš imam u svome razredu nekoliko osoba kojima je baš “fora” pjevati Naprijed mornari sa plavog jadrana ili ustaška se vojska diže.
Da ne pričam o činjenici da jedan u razredu ima masku za lice na kojoj piše HOS za dom spremni!
Svi rade filmove o Fašistima u Italiji, Nacistima u Njemačkoj, Militaristima u Japanu, ali Balkan ima definitvno isto takve, ako ne i gore, fašističke organizacije.
Ustaše, Četnici, Rumunjska Željezna garda, Mađarska stranka Nacionalnog jedinstva i još druge.
U tim državama, doduše, taj problem je malo bolje riješavan jer te države nisu imale rat devedesetih.
A upravo je taj rat doveo do ponovnog dizanja tih organizacija.
Upravo su u tom ratu slavu stekli pjevači koji su sa svojim pjesmama nesvejsno ili svjesno širili mržnju i samo davali gorivo tom ratu koji je tada trajao.
Pod time mislim na Thompsona u Hrvatskoj, ali i na bilo koje druge pjevače iz Srbije ili Bosne.
A sada za kraj. Zašto mislite da ljudi (pogotovo mladi) vole pjevati takve pjesme ili dizati desnicu.
Zato što je to “egzotično” to je “cool” ili “fora” to je “opako” za razliku od mira i demokracije.
I tu sad dolazimo to korijena problema. N E Z N A NJ E
Mladi o tome neznaju onoliko koliko bi trebali, neznaju što podupiru vikanjem za dom spremni, kakvu zločinačku organizaciju oni zapravo podupiru.
Jer se o tome ne priča koliko bi se trebalo, ne zato da se ljudi time ponose, nego da sljedeći put znaju što zapravo podupiru vikanjem Za dom spremni!
Niti pozdrav Za dom spremni! niju zabranjen kod nas. U Njemačkoj samo dizanje desnice ti može zaraditi 6 mjeseca zatvora.
Da se razumijemo,nije Hrvatska jedina sa tim problemom.
U Srbiji taj problem je još puno gori, pa mislim gotovo bi se i moglo reći da im je ratni kriminalac na vlasti.
Hrvatska doduše nije kao Srbija. Ne negira zločine koje je počinila u drugom svjetskom, ali je i dalje to jedan problem koji se treba rješiti ako mislimo nastaviti dalje.
Isus je rekao:”Ne gledaj trn u oku brata svojega ako nisi pronašao brvno u oku svojemu”
Zato prvo. neka Hrvati riješe svoje probleme jer ih definitivno imaju, a tek onda možemo gledati Srbe i kritizirati njih.
Za poglavnika i za dom uvik spremni!
samo jako desno ✝️
@@luckyluciano131 degen
I suppose Ukrainie would look similar if Germany allowed OUN to from a gov. .
Who knows. It is likely...
Stephans channel goes where others do not! As a modern history buff myself, my subject of study, taking a degree in my spare time whilst working in an engineering factory as a machinist, was "Modern European and American History" Europe from Bismarks unification of Germany until the beginning of WW2, America from the Civil War until the death of Kennedy. Stephans work here starts of where my studies of Europe ended so I find it so interesting and informative! Stephan is a great historian! I recommend the work of English historian A.J.P. Taylor on events in Europe building up to war, as well as being a great historian, he was from my home town in the North of England!
Many thanks for your reply, Steve!
I am a Chemistry major and History buffy !
Great comment dd !! 😁👌👌
The darkest aspect of the Croats is painfully the strong relationship between Croats and Germans. Unlike we Poles, Croats have a perfect relationship with the Germans, being faithful to the Austrians in the majority and later Germany, as seen with Josip Jelacic's rebellion of 19th century against Hungary (Jelacic's goal was to protect the Austrian crown). This made the Croats highly prone to the idea that they're a superior tribe of Germanic heritage being forced to speak a Slavic language. The Nazis exploited this, ingrained the Croats that they were not Slavs but "Slavicized Germans". This idea remains relevant even today, I can still assure you that a lot of Croatian nationalists share this kind of view based on my trip to Croatia three years ago.
I am Croat nationalist in mid 30's.. never hired this one before.. literaly not one Croat ever seid that we are some kind of germans who got slavic somehow.. we are slavs.. and we are proud of it.
@@nohlavopi8617 Slavs? What idea of "Slav" for the Croats? Literally by marching alongside the Nazis? I heard it everywhere, man. As much as Polish people respecting Croatia because of common Catholic and Slavic background, the fact that Croats did not experience oppression by either Russia and Germany is what driven this confusion among Croats themselves. There are a portion, I suppose, 10% of Croatian nationalists, still see they're descendants of Gothic people - and are widely embraced. The only war you fought was against Serbs, who could be considered little Russia (or Russia's puppet depending on circumstances), but it was a more equal war than between Poland and Russia. Are Croats Slavic? Germanic? Or either Illyrians today as being injected by Albanian chauvinism and Serbophobia?
@@luishernandezblonde respect to all Poles but you sir do not know what are you talking about.
@@nohlavopi8617 no, he certainly does know what he is talking about, Poland is a majority native Roman Catholic nation of Slavic origin, yet it was precisely due to its Slavonic identity that it became a direct target for nazi German annihilation. And he's also right in that you all in today's Croatia are overwhelmingly ignorant and in a general state of cognitive dissonance in these types of matters, precisely because your anti-Serbian obsession obscures your own respective Slavic racial identity altogether. For if you were truly appreciative of this, you would be grieved by murderous Germanic racialism of the Nazis towards all Slavic people. That's why there is rarely something more historically absurd than the German loving "Independent State of Croatia", it's pure madness which unfortunately became a monstrous reality during world war II.
@@luishernandezblonde In my own historical investigations of world war II, I eventually discovered a chilling, uncanny resemblance between Croat ustasha and Galician "Ukrainian" Banderists. You can say Croats are truly "Greek Catholic" in spirit despite practising standard Roman Catholic religion.
Croatia and the Ustasa is a brave subject to approach! Nice work. The things I have read documenting Ustasa death camps are some of the worst accounts I have read and up there with the Japanese in Nanking. Just a thought- have you an episode talking about Nanzi attitude towards Islam? I know the SS had contacted the leader of Islam in Jerusalem about the Jews early on and I believe he (mufti?) Iived in Berlin
@Warwick: there is much more to cover about this topic. I already did make a video about the Free Arab Legion:
ruclips.net/video/jB0rWydzDPs/видео.html
@@northernstar4811 You can keep lying to yourself as long as you want. For the whole world it is an extermination camp. It was destroyed by Ustashe, the job was only finished by Communists in order to hide Croatian guilt and shame.
@@northernstar4811 Yeah, guess what, Auschwitz was also not a death camp, it's name was Konzentrationslager Auschwitz, or a concentration camp. But unless you are an idiot, you know damn well what Auschwitz was.
And it wasn't destroyed - communists erected a huge monument there, a large museum and made more than a dozen films about it. So no one was hiding anything. Some things are simply way too big to hide.
But since your defense is "it was called Labor camp" I think I know where this is coming from. Bok dečki, šta ima, kako je u lipoj vašoj ovih dana? XD
@@northernstar4811 That is not fake, that is real history. The camp was burnt by the Ustaše, there was nothing left for the communists to burn, they just removed the rubbish of the burnt buildings left by the Ustaše. All top communist leaders were Croats and during the war Ustashe in many cases armed and financed the communists, because they were fighting Chetniks. It was especially so when the Ustashe realized that the Germans will lose the war. So simply stop spreading disinformation because its really easy to check and realize that it was Ustashe that destroyed the camp before they left.
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In August 1941 the Croatian Fascists established the Jasenovac concentration camp, one of the largest in Europe. This included the Stara Gradishka concentration camp for women and children. Jasenovac was much more barbaric than German Nazi-run camps, since prisoners were often tortured and many of the murders were done manually using hammers, axes and knives. According to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., between 320,000 and 340,000 Serbs were killed in the NDH. Of the 39,000 Jews who lived in the NDH more than 30,000 were killed, 6,200 were shipped to Nazi Germany and the rest of them were killed in Croatian-run concentration camps. 'Slaughter',
'plunder' and 'terror' all were standard vocabulary in Wehrmacht portrayals of Croatian violence.
I showed the map of Jasenovac. I also mentioned it but due to a mic error the word 'Jasenovac' wasn't recorded, strange. Anyway, thanks for sharing this.
@@HistoryHustle Indeed, great video btw. Thank you for talking about a subject very much overlooked during Tito's Yugoslavia.
Thanks 👍
Broj žrtava
Utvrđivanje broja žrtava za Jugoslaviju, Hrvatsku i Jasenovac vrlo je problematično, zbog uništavanja mnogih relevantnih dokumenata, dugoročne nedostupnosti neovisnim znanstvenicima onih dokumenata koji su preživjeli i ideoloških programa poslijeratne partizanske stipendije i novinarstva, na koje su utjecale etničke napetosti, vjerske predrasude i ideološki sukobi. Ovdje ponuđene procjene temelje se na radu nekoliko povjesničara koji su koristili popisne zapise, kao i na bilo kojoj dokumentaciji koja je bila dostupna u njemačkom, hrvatskom i drugim arhivima u bivšoj Jugoslaviji i drugdje.
Kako sve više dokumenata postaje dostupno i provodi se više istraživanja u evidenciji ustaškog režima, povjesničari i demografi možda će moći odrediti preciznije brojke nego što je sada dostupno.
Autori: Memorijalni muzej holokausta Sjedinjenih Država, Washington, DC
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS BUDDY
NEVER STOP MAKING THEM.
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Respect for Stefan for this video.
The scale of killings, torture and violence is shocking. We must look to history to remember how the human could behave worst than an animal. Animals kill for food to survive, we can kill because of hatred and racism.
I have met a lot of Croats and Serbs in my life, and they treated me with respect. Sometimes, I was perplexed by the attitude of some Serbs against Croats. I can understand the reason for their position better now.
Please, we could spread knowledge and respect to others. But we should not forget the terrible part of history for preventing it to happen again.
At my job, I work with a colleague whose grandparents lived in a Slovenian village next to the Croatian border. Some of his relatives were killed by Ustaša too.
Hi Ales, thanks for your reply and your additional insights on this.
I hate the disneyfication of animals they kill not just for food they kill for terretories, mating rights, status in a group just watch some animal documentaries...
I agree, but you know, lot of "anti-fascists" killed "ustasa" too. Basically everyone killed everyone, and also "everyone" killed "everyone" for every and "every" reason.
Killed by the Ustase in Slovenia? Not possible, because the Ustase didnt have operations in Slovenia. Only is possible if they were partisans on NDH territory.
@@XDomyX There were 5 Slovenian vilages on the Slovenia/Croatia border included in NDH populated with Slovenian (south of Brežice - villages Čedem, Slovenska vas, Nova vas pri Mokricah, Obrežje, all together less than 1k people). There were some victims, but Ustaše didn't prosecute Slovenes as bad as Serbs
"Operation PUNISHMENT" was new to me--I'd always heard "Op. RETRIBUTION"
In literature I read both names.
@@HistoryHustle So, you taught me something else! Mission accomplished, sir.
Shtraffen means punishment
So many fascinating details to understand and consider before WWII would take shape. So many souls needlessly eliminated. Thank you for sharing Stephon ❤️
Many thanks!
It is interesting that the first choice of the Nazis (for rule in occupied Croatia) was Vladko Maček, the leader of the Croatian Peasant Party (HSS), but he refused...
And then a Mussolini player stormed in!
@Radagast Upravo sam nadopisivao za neupućene ;)
Who knows what would've happened if Vladko Maček would have led the state...
@@HistoryHustle There is no "if" in this case. The guy literally refused to rule that sort of state. He was strongly against fascism. Most Croats were. Macek was the only democratic representative of Croats at the time. Pavelic was an italian puppet, he escaped Croatia before returning with arms and fascists. Traitor to our people.
@@HistoryHustle Maček was the succesor of Stjepan Radić and he rejected Nazi propositions. Hence the lunatic Pavelić. Radić was killed in the yugoslav Parliament by nationalist Serbs. So, makes me think... what if Stjepan Radić was never killed?
As a Croat who is a war child of the 90s I must say that this topic of Ustaša is an enormous disgrace for my people and country. And we will forever have to live with it and bare consequences of it like in the 90s.
History is a strange sequence of events and should be approached as such. One should not invest himself into history personally or with emotions but study it with a clear head and learn from it for betterment of the human race.
He was only their first choice for a brief nano second until they realised he wouldn't play ball. The reason he was their choice is because he was clearly the more popular independence movement leader amongst Croats.
I hope you make a video for every former republic of Yugoslavia,because they're all really interesting,each of the nations had collaborators and traitors,but each also produced heros who resisted and fought the occupators and traitors
There sure is much more to cover! 👍
And why did Ustasa exist? Why ar the mayority Ustasa muslim? Maybe because Serbs did etnic cleansing on 95% Muslim Who liveded in Serbia in 1912. And then killing thousands of Muslims in Bosnia after 1918....and killing Croats after 1918 also to establish Yugoslavia or great Serbia.
Ustasha was not a majority muslim.
@@HistoryHustle In Bosnia Bosnian Muslim were in Ustasa. Because the Serbian Chetnik and partisans killed Bosnian Muslim and Croats.
@@HistoryHustle my English is little rosty. Not mayority of Ustasa but a big majority of Bosnian Muslim were in Ustasa. It’s was a big horror mess in this war from all sites.,Croats, Serbian,Muslims etc. especially in Bosnia and Herzegowina .
Only a fraction of Bosnian Muslims joined the Ustasha. Most that did did so to surivive although it's true there were collaborators that committed atrocities.
@@HistoryHustle will you make a video about Serbian nazis the chetniks ? And what terrifaying war crime a genocide they done to Croats in Bosnia and region of Dalmatia and Lika in Croatia and muslim in Bosnia in Ww2 and not just then? Or how they killed Serbs in Serbia?
Thank you for your presentation of another fascinating and tragic episode of WWII.
You're welcome, Eleanor.
On of the best short videos I've seen explaining the complicated 3 factions that made up Yugoslavia during WWII, their names , locations, etc...well explained as an overview !
All nations have dark moments......
.....but only Croats had children concentration camps.
Maybe you can understand now why Serbs couldn't accept the new Independent State of Croatia in the 1990, who's leader and president was directly backed up from Ustaše movement from abroad. Sadly, the new IS of Croatia and Germany fullfiled Ustasa dream: ethnically clean and Serb- free state.
Regarding the number of killed Serbs in Jasenovac alone: there are 88000 officialy registrated names. You can now imagine the reall number. How many of 1.3 million Jewish victims from Auschwitz are actually registrated by name?
So thats the reason why serbs wanted a great serbia and tried too extermiante all croats, bosniak and albanians from the balkans because theyre evil and deserved it?
Why serbs actually attacked amd killed over 20.000 albanian women ans children in kosovo? Also because of ustashe?
@@jonomobono3223We never wanted that😂
@@vuk.505srb he is a just sick croat troll with tons of nicknames
@@vuk.505srb of course you did...just read what dobrica cosic, seselj or milosevic said
@@dropbox-yr3tg What about NDH isn't that also greater Croatia?
Thank you for the courage to historically present the crimes on the territory of the NDH.
Thanks for watching.
We Croatians are not nazis
Never said you were. Some were, others were communists. Most of them tried to survive.
Yes we are.
@Kafa: staying out of the conflict in order to survive.
@Radagast Man there are countless evidence of Catholic priests taking par tin the killings and supporting Ustasa. There motto was "Kill third, convert third, and banish third" (of Serbs). Who did you think was converting people from Orthodox to Catholic? Birds?
@Radagast First there where none, but now there are some. Your story is not connected to reality. Im suprized by you modern Ustase, you are attempting to hide the facts in the information age. Its impossible now, your crimes will forever be displayed to the eyes of the human race. Internet will make sure of that.
Grand Mufti Of Jerusalem, a Palestinian, relative (uncle) of future Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, arranged with Heinrich Himmler during the visit to Nazi Germany to create pure Muslim ``Dagger division`` in Bosnia (then part of NDH). ``Dagger SS division`` was responsible for countless war crimes.
It is absurd that Serbs who were the victims of a military unit created by a Palestinian, now support Hamas, which is just a historical extension of ``SS Dagger Division``.
Hope to cover more on this in the future.
More like those Serbs hate Jews more.
A few months ago I read “44 Months in Jasenovac” which I believe is the only written account from a former prisoner of a Ustase camp. Words are truly hard to describe the suffering of the victims of the Ustase. Just utterly horrifying
@Kjragg: thanks for your reply.
@Kafa kafica: in the camp were also Croats who were against the Ustashe. Not all Croats were supporting Pavelic.
@Kafa: your comment go towards hate speech. Please stop else I'll have to ban you replies.
@@HistoryHustle Untersuchen Sie, was in den Lagern in Serbien passiert ist
@@northernstar4811
You know, but ...
Before the shameful NDH, Serbia declared Jews undesirable and marked them with ribbons and escorted them to camps (there were several of them, Sajmište, Niš, Banjica, etc.).
In August 1942., General Alexander Löhr declared Serbia "Judenfrei" (a Nazi term for an area cleared of Jews).
@Radagast in the book I mentioned. The author described a Ustase guard forcing a son to carve his father’s eyes out with a knife for no reason. He obviously refused. The guard then took both the father and son’s eyes. Pure evil
Imagine how evil one must be if somebody flees to german controlled territory in ww2
Indeed.
@@HistoryHustle im sorry to inform you,but you dont know 1% of what is there to know about yugoslavia,and this is professional negligence
Says who?
@@HistoryHustle your sources are 2 historians,both royalists,maybe u should first study the historians not the history! i am nobody,barely passed the high school,but my logical mind is working just fine
@@HistoryHustle maybe you should put a disclaimer,that you dont know the language,so your access to 99% of sources ,books , papers and documents on the subject is inaccessible. puting things on air,where is so much death and suffering is irresponsible. people tend to believe what they hear.
Thank you for teaching this, Croatia under Ante Pavelic was almost forgotten in ww2 history, of course w/ the exception of the Serbs.
Thanks for watching.
Croatia is the only country that had camps for young children who were killed and tortured en masse
Nope, Germany had one in Lodz.
Ooooh ! What a delight ! Stefan covers the litany of such gruesome and unimaginable horrors ( committed by Pavelics Ustasha ) under the auspices of the NDH,..that gore-splattered SS members reared back in revulsion. Apart from that, the Nazis fairly quickly saw that their impulsive sponsorship of Pavelics raving maniacs was drawing an unwanted tractor-beam of Axis troops to try to ‘ control ‘ the utter maelstrom when they were very badly needed virtually everywhere else.
Thanks for your reply. I hope to visit the former Jasenovac camp in the future.
@@HistoryHustle That would be an incredible trip, Stefan ! And we shall have to buckle ourselves in tight to ride through the storm of NDH/Ustashi vitriol !!!
@Kafa kafica Right! I personally heard story of young girls seeing that they will be butchered in the most grooseme ways made a circle with hands and went in to the river to drown. My friends grandparents personally watched as Ustasa slit throats of there family in front of them.
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Winners can say wat they want.. 600.000 plus .c mon..sad wat happened .but seriously.
chetnik crimes in ww2:
"" On February 5th of the year Cetnici attacked the Bukovica municipality ... and burned around 500 men, women and children. […] Girls were found who had impaled a man after they had been rpd […] In the village of Strazice, the body of Hajji Tahirovic was found, the man who had pulled the skin from the hollows of his knees over his back and head onto his chest. "
The partisans liberated Yugoslavia. Period. The Bleiburg massacre does not change that fact. You putting the word liberated in quotation marks does not change that fact. The Germans didn't just pack up their stuff and leave on their own. They needed to be kicked out by force.
No, that indeed doesn't change the fact. Kinda self evident.
Bullshit I was the Red Army who liberated Yugoslavia especially Serbia. If the allies had landed in Greece rather than Italy Tito and his Partisans would be toast . Look at the example of Greece after the war ,once the British joined in the Communists were finished
@@simapark the soviet army entered Yugoslavia in December 1944. By that time the war in Yugoslavia has been going on for almost four years. To say that the Red Army liberated Yugoslavia is downright insulting. Yes, they helped liberate Belgrade amongst other things but they did not liberate the country.
communists arent liberator
It is hard to understand why Germany let this terror go on for so long given it created constant gerrila situation which kept significant military presence while Wermact was bleeding in Eastern Front. I read somewhere that when Himmler reflected on situation in Yugoslavia and said that it was a mistake putting Ustashas in power.
I think initially the Germans wanted to destabilize the area but that went gruesome out of hand.
@@HistoryHustle Quite the opposite. Germans wanted a stable country, without needed Wehrmacht involment, so they could focus on USSR. The Ustase were put by the Italians.
Croatian secession from the Communist State of Yugoslavia in the 1990's was supported only by Hungary and the Unified German State, however the US did not support the Break up of Yugoslavia nor did it support Croatian secession. Hungarian support was manifested by secret supply of arms to Croatia.
Okay, didn't know this.
Of course US organized secession of Yugoslavia and supported Croatia with weapons.
@@harbinger200 yes dream on and do a little research. Google could help you. Yes maybe the US was never in alliance with the Soviets.
Alot of ustasas in the comment section.
Apologism is rampant.
a lot of croat Nazis orcs, as reflection of ever growing Nazism in Croatia.
and tolerated by EU and Germany.
@@Michael-h1r4h serbia is actually the biggest nz state in europe...
only people in world who celebrate genocide on bosniaks...
only people to teach there children to hate there neighbours until to extermination...
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Apologism is rampant, it's true. The sick propaganda you propagate is even more rampant than apologism.
WW2 is really interesting topic , I started learning about it after playing WW2 strategy games
Great you find it interesting.
Me too Gurtej! I’m finding this series on “Axis Minors” very interesting because I play a game called ASL (Advanced Squad Leader) which features many different combatants including a lot of the Axis Minors.
@dream eu you’ve either had too much to drink or not enough. Chill out.
@@misterscaz6011 I played world conquerer 4 and some hoi4 and age of civilization
There were only three grandfathers left to the 75 families in my father's village after the war.
Remember Glina
Remember what happened in Kordun
Remember what happened to our people.
Very sad. Thanks for sharing.
@@goranmiljus2664 and now krajina is nothing but blooded fields and empty villages.
And also remember what the Serbs were doing in Eastern Bosnia during that same time.
@@overlord165 oh I will not forget that either. Nobody should. It's just so much sadness. Why couldn't people with so much in common reconcile their differences?
Why did it come to this? In WW2? In the 90s?
Why were my relatives killed in WW2? Why were they dispossessed half a century later?
Why did the Bosnians have to die at Srebrenica? And how many other places? Wasn't enough learnt about suffering? Is pain forgotten so easily, and is vengeance worth the damage to the soul?
Why is there so much hate? Is it still there?
The echoes of these actions ring hard down all of our family lines, to the places we were dispersed to, through the countryside of the peninsula our ancestors shared. That vengeance: that costly vengeance has only served to damage the hearts of the children of those involved, destroy families, and obscure the vast and beautiful cultures of the entire region.
I wish for us, those downstream from the horror of the past, to think of each other as brothers -- not enemies. No less, to keep in mind what has happened, and honor our dead, with the understanding that we must never allow it to happen again.
Great video, 95% truth, great Job Stefan.
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03:05 1,9 million Serbs in NDH (Croatia+Bosnia) in 1941. looks like reduced number because: even in 1991 there was 700.000 Serbs in Croatia and 1,35 million in Bosnia. But beside that hundred of thousands of Serbs were killed in NDH camps (Yugoslav estimation was 700.000), hundreds of thousands were converted into catholicism/Croats, and in 20th century about 1 million Serbs from Bosnia and Croatia were expelled into Serbia, mostly Vojvodina and Belgrade region (like parts of my family who are later in 1991 made strangers without voting right in our fathersland in Cro and Bos). So, in NDH, ortodox Serbs were majority. And today in Croatia after second extermination in 1995 (with same allays as in WWII), Serbs are less then 5% of population in Croatia. Current Serbian battle in Bosnia is to stop same scenario in Bosnia as it was in Croatia. Muslims and Croats are hoping for that to steal Serbian land and clear it from Serbs, and globalists in USA, Germany, Soros, UK, France... (NATO) supports them in that goal.
I refer to my sources.
@@HistoryHustle Ok, but can you please refer your sources publicly? How many Serbs in 1941: in Croatia, in Bosnia, how many killed in NDH by Ustaše, how many converted into catholics, how many expelled to Serbia during and after WWII?
You are FULL OF LIES. What Serbian land in Bosnia or Croatia is being stolen? None of this land EVER belonged to Serbia in history!! Full stop!! Your numbers are incredibly INFLATED!! Give your head a shake!
The savagery of Ustashi massacres was propelled by Roman Catholic religious zealotry. This is well known despite denials by many Croats.
Zapamtite Hrvati, da je Hrvatska od 1991- 1995 izgubila u Domovinskom ratu ovako bi i o novoj generaciji Hrvata govorili. Povijest pišu pobjednici. Toliko.
English please.
@@HistoryHustle no need, everyone concerned understands this.
Istina - ako su u stanju lagati i o domovinskom ratu usprkos svih snimaka i uključenosti čitave međunarodne zajednice koja nas je priznala nakon što su vidjeli koja zvjerstva rade nad Hrvatima i ostalim ne srbima , u stanju su sve.
Nema većih lažljivaca i mitomana od njih na balkanu, a i šire
Na kraju će ih ugušiti vlastita laž
Какви победници? Убице деце?
pogotovu oni što su opljačkali svoje susjede ( especialy those who robbed (and .killed in some cases9) their first neibors ..who were serbs ) ..Iam begging to be afraid of future of Nepalese in croatia
Very nice that you talked about the Independent State of Croatia, few people know about the many crimes committed by the Croatians during World War 2.
Thanks for your reply!
Even fewer people here know about this book: Serbian Anti-Semitism and Exploitation of the Holocaust as Propaganda.
@@vhs7614 have you heard of Jasenovac?
Have you heard of evidence? Not hearsay, forensics? 80 years and nothing... And why wasnt it done? Croatia would dig it but its not allowed. We would welcome international forensic teams and scientists but that also is big no no. So who is stopping scientific research to end all of manipulations?
@@vhs7614 so you have heard of Jasenovac. The world will know of your crimes, you can't hide it.
700.000 Serbs were massacred by Croats.
@@stevegodenich7087 You compare 8.000 ustaša , monsters ,who massacred all those Serbs ,all those civilians with those force of evil . Godenić is Serbian first name. Your family is one of those who was convertise . Shame on you!
Dear Overlord, try to keep it less partisan and focus more on history. Else I'll ban your future comments.
Rubbish
In Bleiberg there was also Serb Chetniks and Montenegrins. They were also running away from the partisans.
It sure deserves a stand-alone episode.
Fact that they didn't have a trial was their trial.
most of četniks went to partisans after April1945 and they were sent to torture croatian people who went to Bleiburg and Slovenia.
Ver informative and entertaining. I learned a lot. Thanks.
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It all started with Stjepan Radić assassination in parliament by Serbians ( especially not to mention assassination of Franz Ferdinand by Serbians ).
After that King Alexander established his royal dictatorship I believe.
@@HistoryHustle Yea. crumbs of events... one event leads to another, until it eventually explodes like in WW2.
What rubbish. Croatian crimes in WW1 are well documented. Besides, an assassination gives the excuse to butcher hundreds of people? You cannot justify it
@@БрусЛи-м3ю In WW1 ??! Serbian, go back to school and learn world history. Leave serbian myths for Serbians. In WW1, Croatia was part of AH empire.... Yes, WW2 events ( in case of Serbia ) was a punishment for assassination and starting the WW1. Newton's third law...
@@user-xj3ve7wt8k Yeah, the assassination of two people, one of whom is not even of the given ethnicity, is a perfectly just and valid excuse for a full-blown genocide. At this point a question such as 'Have you no shame?' would be a rhetorical question.
Hello! I have only recently sadly discovered your channel but I love it. Just so you know I live in Croatia and I have a great passion for history. All of these stories you have presented are accurate. Nazis were so shocked they even planned and invasion on NDH. Ustaše were traitors of our people and yes at first people welcomed Wehrmacht with flowers but keep in mind that without Croats the resistence led by Tito would not be possible. It is a shameful part of our history but it happened unfortunately. It is also sad tha a lot of people today see Ustaše as heroes of our people but most people including me know better. My great grandfather was a guard in Jasenovac although i never met the man but grandma told me when he got drunk he would tell what horrors hw saw and kinda did. On the other side of my family we have communists who fought the Ustaše so yeah it is kinda crazy. Love your content and keep it up. You have earned a sub.
Hello Marko, thanks for your honest reply. Very interesting how even families were divided. Luckily we're better of living today (although there always will be challanges). Thanks again for your reply. I have a playlist about Yugoslav History, so if you're interested, it's right here:
ruclips.net/video/uyoSAdRIEII/видео.html
@@HistoryHustle Yes even the families were divided and in some areas it was rather a rule not an exception. As a serb i know that many fathers would send half of their sons to join partisans and others to join chetniks so that women and children and the rest of the family wouldnt be targeted by one of the sides. Nevertheless they were targeted. Its crazy to imagine that the people who were the main victims of the ustase, ended up fighting among themselves, killing their neighbors and brothers. At the same time, hats off to all the croats and muslims who fought against the regime when all their fellow nationals took part or supported or kept silent about the full scale genocide happening around them.
@@mihajlovucic6417 In many places you have one village that was under fascist control and right next to it another under partisan control. In most cases common folks went into the force that first came to the village and pointed a gun to their heads. You had many cases where one brother would be in ustasa army and another in partisan army depending who got to them first. That whole part of that history is sad and like you said neighbour was killing neihbour and brother shot brother.
Croats were sooo little in numbers in Partisan squads, that they should not even be mentioned as members of Partisans. First large groups that joined Partisans were in 1944, when those pussies realized the war will soon be lost, so they ran for their lives and joined the winning team. Stop calling Croats as one of the victims of Ustashe regime. Thats a spit to the face of Serbian victims, the real victims of Ustashe regime. Thats the same as calling Germans as victims of Nazi regime, almost the same as Jews.. Its just a spit to the face of poor Jews in Europe in WW2. Thats disgusting. If your grandpa refused to be a guard in that Hell on Earth, he would probably be killed, so for Croats was easier to accept the Pact with Lucifer, than be a real human and accept death
ustase were traitors of our people, get a grip mate, they wanted an independent croatia, you turn your back because of some bullshit serbian accounts.
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Josip Broz Tito was a Croat. Same as the majority of the leading Partisans: Ivo Lola Ribar, Andrija Hebrang, Franjo Tudjman, Vladimir Nazor, Vicko Krstulovic, Janko Bobetko, Stevo Krajacic etc etc etc…not a single serb among the top Partisans. Of course not since Serbs were mainly supporting the Serb dominated status quo with a serbian self proclaimed „king“ dictatorship…while Partisans and Ustasa were both revolutionary movements fighting against this status quo. During the „Kingdom od Yugoslavia“ the imprisoned Communists and the imprisoned Ustasa were openly collaborating and supported each other and even visited funerals of their respective members killed by the serb dominated „royal“ dictatorship regime
Thanks for sharing this.
@@HistoryHustleread Bogdan Krizman‘s excellent books on this topic. Or Hrvoje Klasic‘s new documentary about the „NDH and the Ustasa“ on tv. Klasic is known as a leftliberal historian supporting rather the Partisans…but even he emphasized the fact that Communists and Ustasa collaborated in preWW2 Yugoslavia against the serbian dictatorship regime. As I said…both were revolutionary movements fighting the Serb dominated status quo of a dictatorship „kingdom“ with a selfproclaimed serbian „king“ tyranny at the top of the state.
Actually, the uprising began in Serbia, there was Užička republika free teritory for a while as early as in 1941, Serbs were being killed in german repraisals. No Croats suffred really in WWII from German on Italian or Hungarian hand
I'm not sure that the partisan movement started in Serbia. I mean, the partisans in Serbia achieved some very important battle success establishing the temporary Republic of Užice, but to my knowledge, the first partisan formation was formed by communist workers (a mix of Croats and Serbs) in Sisak, 'bout 40km SE of Zagreb. In the beginning, since they were poorly armed they only performed sabotaging actions. Nevertheless, I thought was worth mentioning something that I consider non historically accured.
I refer to my sources.
@@HistoryHustle Maybe you should check your sources first. That's not what we have learned in college.
I like your videos but I am afraid you did not get this topic right way. You talked lot about crimes and atrocities but missing the big picture. Just few hints..
Do you know that communist party gave support for Ustasa "Velebitski ustanak" in 1932?
Do you know much time passed from declaration of NDH to the first anti-NDH uprising?
Do you know who provoked German attack on Yugoslavia? When you find out ask your self why.
Do you know that Pavelic was Hitler's second choice?
Do you know Jasenovac death kamp was in service many years after war ended?
Let's cut to the chase: what is your point exactly? What should I have said in my video, that would make you find it a complete video about Croatia in WW2.
@@HistoryHustle This is not simple answer. Ustasa were radical militarist like communist party. Both were banned by actual Yugoslav government.
You must be aware that communist dictatorship from 45-90 prohibit a critical view of history. What happened in 41-45 has much more with wars in near past (91-95) than with fascism and nacism in WW2.
In 1939 King Aleksandar gave to Croats autonomous province Banovina Hrvatska. This idea was not well accepted by Serbian nationalists who though that part of it belong to Great Serbia.
In 1941 Hitler offered almost complete neutrality to King Alexander but this agreement was overthrown during March 1941 protest by Serbian radicals.
After Hitler defeat Yugoslavia a puppet states arises like Independent State of Croatia. This "state" was in fact union between Croats and ex Turkish Muslims in Bosnia. But it was nothing like a real state. Two zones of control were created between Germans and Italians. Only legal representative from Croat side (V.Maček) rejected Hitler's offer to be head of that state.
What I am saying is that someone created cage for bloodbath between Croats, Serbs and ex Turkish Muslims.
After 1943 thing begins to change when Italia capitulated and SSSR had initiative on Eastern front. After two years of killings and crimes, arises popularity of communists which were put into power by Soviets...
My point: Independent State of Croatia was no state but area of bloodbath. In 1941 started first Serbo-Croatian-Muslim War without a clear winner.
Weer een interessante video!
Was je vakantie in Kroatië voor de rest ook leuk?
Dank voor je bericht. En zeker, was een topreis!
Ante Pavlovic escaped to Argentina, in 1957, he was wounded by a Serb and went to Spain. He died in 1959, from his wounds.
Yes, indeed.
Blagoje Jovovic was the man who wounded him with two bullets.
Doctors were afraid to remove bullets from his body because Pavelic had diabetes.
Who is that ante pavlovic?
I say Pavelic did answer for his crimes when he was mortally wounded by a Montenegrin Serb while getting off of a bus in Argentina. It took him two years to die, yes, but that bullet in his spine killed him.
Fair point.
Partisans had support trough whole Yugoslavia, not just Serbia. Also, there were more than one chetnkiks movments during war, an they oftenly changed sides, from Axis to Allies. They were kinda against NDH but they had fought against partisans oftenly. War is chaos
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Serbian concentration campfor children:
- Rakovica manastir near belgrade
Serbian rp camps during the 1990s:
- Omarska camp
- Foca
- Prijedor
- Kozarac
- Visegrad
etc.
Not the Gestapo but the whole world was disgusted
Whataboutism.
There is an interesting fact regarding the Jewish people. During 1941, the Ustaše state has nationalized the Jews' businesses, fired many of them from management positions and arrested them, sending them to prisons or concentration camps. However, many ordinary Croatian people wrote letters to the government protesting their Jewish friends and coworkers being arrested. Also, it appeared that the many Jews held important positions in industry and businesses and the after those were nationalized, the Ustaše commissioners that replaced the Jewish managers knew very little about running businesses, so the nationalized companies did really bad under the new politically set managements. So, the Ustaše government decided to free many of those Jews and their families, giving them passes and documents and allowing them and their families normal lives, given both the pressure from the people and the fact that the Croatian economy was in bad condition. Furthermore, the Ustaše government installed a so called "Honorary Aryan" status that it gave to many Jews that were either important to the economy or have previously been a part of the Croatian nationalist political groups (one of the first organized political groups of Croatian nationalists were founded by the Croatian Jews). On the other hand, this provoked a strong pressure from the Nazi Germany who did not like that at all and they kept protesting to Pavelić about it. In the end, the head of the SS, Heinrich Himmler came to Zagreb and insisted that the Ustaše government arrests those freed Jews and hands them over to the Germans. In the end, most of those freed Jews were sadly arrested again, put onto trains and have perished in Auschwitz or similar places.
Thanks for sharing this information with us.
Important thing to note: Unlike Nazis or Fascists Ustasha werent brought to power by the people of Croatia, they were imposed from the outside. Croats would never elect such a govrnment and eaven the most radical party in croatia HSP never recieved more than 1-2 seats in the Yugoslav government. Blaming all Croats for the crimes commited during the war which is still common to this day is unjust and biased.
Brought to power by the Nazis. Words I used are correct.
Same as Tito's KPJ. Elections were staged and oppositions were repressed.
@@HistoryHustle yes you did, im just responding to a few comments
I think, my croatian friend, that nobody would blame you, but its the neonazis that make them look great and that they didn't kill so many people. I personally think that we can all come along, but then I read the disgusting comments from croatians and I question my thoughts.
@@HistoryHustle Well, a hundreds of massacres were committed in villages across Independent State of Croatia, often committed by simple Croats......
You should have in mind that many today's Catholic Croats , 150, or 200 years ago were not Croats.
All Catholics of Balkan were assimilated to Croats. That's why Croatia has smallest DNA base in Europe. They are afraid of being tested.
There is a centuries long national pathology there..... Jasenovac hasn't come from nowhere.
Croatia was not an independent state. That's obvious. She had a puppet government with a puppet leader. However, little is known about the fact that Croatia had to choose a side, and the only side it could choose was Italy. Pavelic and his companions hid in Italy and were under Mussolini's protection, and he imposed Hitler on them. Croatia was forced to be part of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, and it did not want to be. Croats had to worship the Serbian king at the head of that kingdom, who had the support of France and Great Britain. Croatia did not choose Italy and Germany because it wanted to, it had no one else to choose. Small states, unfortunately, had to choose a side in that war. Small states could never be independent, they always had to be under someone’s protectorate. Croatia could not know with what kind devils it was entering into a pact.
It is not true that Serbs were persecuted just because they are Serbs. It is also not true that there were concentration camps for children. You believe in post-war communist propaganda. It is true that Serbs were unfortunately the target of the regime, it is true that the regime wanted as few Serbs as possible, but there was no plan to exterminate all Serbs, as there was unfortunately for Jews. Of course, the ustashas have been active since 1929 and have never attacked Jews. That damn plan was imposed on them by hitler. Many Serbs were victims of the regime not just because they were Serbs, but because they were in the resistance movement (partisans) or acted politically as communists.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the topic.
An absorbing Hustle! History is factual recital explained in historical context and that is the science and art of the Historian..so well done. It is not factual recital excused by personal passion which alas many of the comments reflect.
Thanks for your reply!
@HistoryHustle did you check all statements you used in this video. 90% of false informations are made from former komunist regime and serbs who falsificate history last 70 years. If you want good information contact Igor Vukić and he can explane all things with documents.
I live beneath this hill you filmed this on haha
It's nice to see someone cover the mess that were the balkans in ww2 without bias.
It looks like a nice area to live. Thanks for your reply!
chetniks were cooperating with germans and italians, they were not ressistance movment but rather colaborating with ocupiers. Modern day history revisions put them in ressistance category but that is historicaly incorect and serves only daily political purposes on serbian political scene. In many battles chetniks and ustashe and italians and germans fought against Tito partaizans together. You as a hitory teacher should know that and not preach modern day propaganda and history revisionisam
The Chetniks did start as a resistance movement. Later they collaborated while other units kept resistenting.
@@HistoryHustle In the very begining yes, they were remnants of royal yugoslavian army after capitulation. But pretty soon they begin with their colaboration.Puting them on equal footing with partisans is insult
Interesting, objective, informative.. Yup, learned a lot of new things today. Thanks teach! Thank you very much!
Greets, T.
Thanks as always for your reply.
It is not objective and alot of it is false. I was like wtf is he saying, then noticed his name is Stefan (Serbian name), so it just normal serbian slandreing of Croats.
stop promoting communist lies
Ante Pavelic is quoted as saying "A good Ustashi is he who can use his knife to cut a child from the womb of its mother."
With about 700,000 killed, Jasenovac was the 4th camp in Europe, but it certainly holds the first place in terms of atrocities. People were killed in 57 different ways. They even had slaughter competitions, in one of them Petar Brzica won with 1350 slaughtered in a row. The only country that had camps for children aged 14 (Jastrepsko, Sisak, Pag, Livno ...)
Hope one day to visit the remains of Jasenovac.
The construction of the Donja Gradina memorial complex is planned (it is a part of the camp located on the right bank of the Sava River, in Bosnia)
It is about the fate of archival and museum material from the Jasenovac camp. Based on the agreement that the then Prime Minister of RS, Milorad Dodik, signed on October 27, 2000, with the director of the Holocaust Museum in Washington, Diana Salzman, the material was given to that museum. The complete material that Dodik gave to the Holocaust Museum with his signature, believing, as he said at the time, that it was "a good thing for Republika Srpska, because the whole world will have the opportunity to get acquainted with the crimes of genocide in the Ustasha NDH", after more than a year days from Washington she was returned to Croatia, where she mostly ended up in the depot of the Public Institution "Memorial Area Jasenovac" away from the public eye.
@@tronozac8173 serbs had concentration camps for children aswell
ruclips.net/video/IcNVWYnwIFg/видео.html
Kingovic What was his name? Where was he? How many children went through it? How many were killed? Who organized and led it? I am ready to learn something from you and you ask something about your history if you are not ashamed?
Actually serbs held even more then 40 concentration camps during the 1990s were ten-thousands of croatian, bosniak and albanian civilians get klt, absd and trtrd
Whataboutism.
All lies
So far you are the only decent historian on YT when talking about topic of Croatia in WWII and i respect that
Thanks, feel free to share.
@@HistoryHustle i will its a good video
also
as a native croat i always get annoyed when people overblow numbers of victims of facist regime (dont get me wrong many defenetly were killed but international numbers put it from 69k to 90k not 700k or 500k that tito made up) and then procced to completely ignore what happened at Bleiburg and afterwards (i have many in extended family who were on Bleiburg and some that never returned)
Plese a separate Video about the 2 ss divisions from the croats
One day. I did cover the Croatian Legion already. The Bosnian SS formations will be covered in the future.
@@NemanjaBGD83 no the one in Stalingrad Was wehrmacht there was the 13 and the 23 ss
@@NemanjaBGD83 sorry i m german
@@NemanjaBGD83 yes but no i m not a nazi or shit like that i m just interested in such things
I congratulate you for your courage to tackle this subject. And you are right, it must be discussed. It is very important to stress that not all Croats supported the Ustaše, and among the victims there were also Croats (including in the death camp of Jasenovac). Unfortunately, the Catholic church supported the psychotic Poglavnik and was involved in forced conversions to Catholicism. Whatever the partisans did to the Ustaše pales in comparison to the unspeakable atrocities of the Croatian Ultranationalists.
Videos like yours are extremely important, especially to inform people outside the Balkans. Because of politics, many of them tend to view Croatia more favorably than Serbia (same for Ukraine and Russia).
Thank you very much.
Good points
Thanks for replying!
Hi Maryanna, my wife's grandmother who is from Croatia and who's family suffered terribly under NDH told my wife that many Croats especially from police and home army (Domobrani) were giving them advanced warnings if Ustashe would be coming so they would try to hide in the woods. I believe majority of Croats didn't support terror but were afraid to speak up fearing their own safety.
@@draganostojic6297 I agree with you. Those criminals did not spare even their countrymen. Поздрав из Канаде.
Thank you for realizing the real truth and trying to spread it around the world. Croatia is considered almost as one of the Allies from WW2, which is not true even 1%. Croatia was Nazi from 1941, until 1945. Croatia victims can even be counted by names and surnames. Their victims are so little compared to Serbs and Jews. Those "Croats" were mostly someone that had some connection to Serbs (they were relatives, first neighbors or just regular croats that didnt want to support the Ustashe regime) , but they were sooooo little in numbers. People should stop adding them to the victims , because people will misunderstand that and not get the real view of what Croatia really did to Serbs.
Croats were quite brutal against Serbs in both WW1 and WW2, something that continued in the war in Bosnia, something that happened organized by the army.
Generally it is sad to see the brutality that people can perform.
Great job Stefan. Thank you for all the knowledge
Actually it was only serbs who were brutal toward croats, muslims and albanians in ww1, ww2 and in the 1990s...and even bwfore
@@jonomobono3223 sure. Thank God evidence tell us otherwise
Thank you, sir. I just ordered Stevan K. Pavlowitch's book about Yugoslavia's dark history during WW2 to inform myself more.
Great read!
My dad told me that his grandma, mother of my grandma, when Ustashes came in the village she lived, they had some Serbs there, a truck with Ustashes inside, they came and took the Serbs in the truck, my grand grandma she quickly jumped in and said " ako će odvesti moje Srpske susjede u Jasenovac, onda ćete morati i mene odvesti / if you are going to take my Serbian neighbors in Jasenovac, then then you will need to take me also" - after that, they just let the Serbs go and they left. I am not lying, i am from Croatia
What a heroine she was. So brave. Thanks for sharing.
@@HistoryHustle Of course, you are welcome. My grand grandma that i was talking about, she was i think borned in 1924, in the Kingdom of Serbs Croats and Slovenes (croatian: Kraljevina Srba, Hrvata i Slovenaca) and in 1929 by king Alexander I,Kingdom of SCS (croatian: Kraljevina SHS) changed its name to Kingdom of Yugoslavia. She passed away in December 2010 when i was a little baby, im 14 now, she held me in her hands 😀
I bought a book in Italian "Tomislao ll", the story about the Duke Aimone of Savoy Aosta, the king of the "indipendente state of Croatia" that never got effective power while the Supreme leader was actually the Poglavnic Ante Pavelic.
Sounds like an interesting read.
@@HistoryHustle the book is "il sovrano sconosciuto, Tomislao ll re di Croazia" ( "the unknown sovereign, Tomislav ll, king of Croatia") by Giulio Vignoli, teacher of the University of Genoa, Italy. By the way, his nephew work in Russia as the rapresentative of the Italian brand Pirelli and the order of Malta knights.
In April 1942, Ustase slaughtered in the most brutal and violent way 34 members of my family in one day. Rest in peace, you're not forgotten!
Sorry to hear that.
@Ante Pavelic Који ти је рог?
How many of them 34 survived the war? :)
@@vhs7614 None.
Ratko Mladic Family was killed during WWII. The Result was he became the Equivalent to Max’s Ljuburic, z´the Metzgermeister a horror Slaughter, famous for Srebrenica killing 8000 Man and Children.
You were in Zagreb? Oh... If only I knew. I could have shown you around...
Next time :)
This is a finely balanced and objective presentaion, however you mucked it up with the chetniks and partusans.
Chetniks were Serbian royalists whose task was to ethnicly cleanse Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro and Kosovo from all non-Serbs in order to make it into Greater Serbia. Serbs from tgese countries also joined their forces and even worked together with the Italian and German occupiers (Psvle Đurišić, Momčilo Đujić.. )
Partisans were active in every territory of former Yugoslavua and was a communist resistance movement under the leadership of a Croatian-Slovene marxist and WW1 veteran Josip Broz Tito.
Thanks for your reply. Hope to cover more about the Chetniks in the future.
I served in the Balkans 1995 and again 196 as part of IFOR British Army. So much deep rooted hatred, across class as well as ethnic lines. I have been back to the Balkens a few years ago to the Gucca Trumpet festival with a very good friend of mine who is Serb.
Thanks for your reply Tony! The 1990s was also a tragic time there. Hope you got out well.
@@HistoryHustle I had PTSD but not until 2016. I had changed but never noticed, I was a civvy at the time but in the reserves. I was called up again for Iraq. And I came back again more darker more cynica, and a very aggrsive edgel. But did not notice but others did. Then one day I woke up with no job no relationship and most of my friends gone. I did not realise that I had driven everyone away. I am lucky sadly I know friends who took there own lifes.
There's actually little hatred. At least not from the people. Most of it was pumped by politicians (divide and rule) who were and are on the payroll of your politicians (British, German, American...). And it can best be seen when you have the people who actually suffered - we don't hate. The greatest hatred is festering today in people who've not been a part of it all - either too young or their entire contact with it was through media. So no, hatred is not deep rooted at all - it is superficial and constantly fed and watered - by a foreign element.
We speak the same language (how ever you wanna call it), we have fiends from pretty much every ethnic group, we celebrate together, we mourn together.
Hatred is artificial - always was. And was always prompted by a very vocal minority on a foreign payroll. And when the shit hits the fan, the same politicians of yours then send you to suffer to "calm things down". The result? Destroyed countries, sowed hate, lives ruined, your battle buddies traumatized... and politicians with filled pockets, happy as can be.
You know what happened after all that kerfuffle in the 1990's? We all ended piss-poor, and all our companies being bought by conglomerates from your country/countries. It was never about anything but your elites making money out of some good folks that managed to mend most of the wounds from history. And in the process, they didn't even care about you, let alone us.
@@Wustenfuchs109 Yup I agree. Its not like you are worse than the rest of us. But its just to easy to get people to hate and fear each other. We had North Ireland, I am part Irish and I served over there, Same people , same language. Even the same tunes, you have to listen to the words to work out which side they are on. 40 years of hate and a war. After the Balkans I toyed with the idea f writing a book set in Britain where Scotland and Wales broke away from England. but in each new country there were English who did not want to move back to England but wanted to stay part of the UK. It starts of with peaceful protests, then violence then riots then calls for English troops to protect English minorities. You get the picture.
@@tonycavanagh1929 Of course it is - all you need is a small vocal group that will make a mess and blame the other side. A few months of that, and you will have a full blown civil war in any country. That's what sparked the fire in the Balkans.
Things were preparing for a long time - as far as various agencies were concerned - but there was a problem of turning a disgruntled masses into masses that want to kill each other. That is where dirty work came in - a group of Croats would throw a bomb at a cafe that is full of Serbs, and then another group of Serbs (working with those Croats) would portray it as Croats VS Serbs, instead of everyone VS some criminal idiots.
Repeat that a few times, control the media - and you get yourself... well, Yugoslav Civil War.
All other preparations, betrayals and shenanigans were useless unless they got people to see their next door neighbor as a monster who ought to be killed. That was the breaking point.
And that - it can be done anywhere, anytime.
For example, USA today - that's some tinder, dry as can be - if someone wanted to spark a war there, they would not even have to work that hard...
This is one of the reasons if not THE reason why Yugoslavia broke up in the 90's - similar nations fighting on different sides throughout history.
It indeed contributed to it yes
This video is so fresh you can still hear the dogs of war!
Ok!
Great pronounciation ! Domobranska vojska would also be right but domobrans is the term used
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Can you do an episode on dutch ww2 weapons or the weapoof the indonesian war for independence?
Perhaps in the future one day. I actually have a video on the Dutch 1940 army:
ruclips.net/video/-esy4KKhpdo/видео.html
And Dutch colonial army:
ruclips.net/video/2MlbRPjppOs/видео.html
@@HistoryHustle bedankt
Nice video, I cant get enough about it
Please keep making content
Will do. Thanks again ;)
The first uprising against the Ustaše took place on June 22th, 1941 near Sisak. The Independent State of Croatia did not have death camps or concentration camps for children, it is propaganda. But it is true that the Independent State of Croatia had concentration labour camps such as Jasenovac and Stara Gradiška.
I'm afraid you're misinformed. These sure were death camps.
@@HistoryHustle For sure some people died there but that was not the function of those mentioned camps. If you look at the facilities that were located in Jasenovac, they were not large at all. And the communist authorities never seriously investigated the area in Jasenovac or any other place.
Another pathetic atempt to revrite the history. "Independent State of Croatia fidn't have concentration camps for children", "Jasenovac and Stara Grafiška were labour camps and some people died there". You're such pathetic nation.
@@mladenmamic187 Says a man whose nation thinks their king was kind to non-Serbian peoples. But actually he was a cruel tyrant who had the support of France and Great Britain.
@@MarioKVarga If you talk about Alexander I Karađorđević, a agree that he was authocratic ruller and yes, France and UK supported him. But unlike at least he wasn't genocidal maniac like Ante Pavelić, head of Ustaša's regime. Crimes of Alexander I against his political oponents can't be measured with the atrocities commited by Ustaše.
Just the letter ‘u’ is infamous already
Inderdaad.
Thank you so much for the Video to many people don't talk about this part of ww2!
Thanks Marko.
Seeing how life was for the everyday person under NDH compared to SFRJ (Communist Yugoslavia) the partisans did liberate, not "liberate" territory in the Balkans. The moral equivalence that the "liberate" term gives off between what the Ustasha did towards civilian Serbs, Jews and Roma and what partisan units did in Bleiburg towards collaborators is actually horrific. Nothing wrong with expressing disgust for what was done by the partisans there - it was definitely a war crime - but it enters a slippery slope if the Communist Yugoslavia rule is equated with the brutal Fascist rule of the NDH. Did the western powers "liberate" Germany from the Nazis when they carpet bombed Dresden and other German cities? The situation in the end of the war was extraordinary and it is incredible hard to judge what the liberating forces did to retaliate against the Fascist and Nazi forces. In many cases I would call many of the things done by the Allies war crimes, but I would never, ever equate what they did with the extermination campaign that the Nazis and the Ustasha conducted by putting a disclaimer on the liberation done by arguably the greatest liberation movement in Europe (The Yugoslav Partisans) nor the Western Allies.
I'd call this argumentation whataboutism.
@@HistoryHustle Yugoslavia was liberated by the Partisans, and the Red Army to some extent. Simply stating that I dislike the opinion that it was "liberated" as if the liberation movement deserves a footnote. And adding the moral slippery slope of deminishing an Allied victory by using Allied war crimes as an incentive for this. If Bleiburg is worth putting a footnote on the victory, then what is next Dresden as an excuse to call the Western victory a "liberation"? It opens the door for far-right extremists to look for moral equivalance between Allied war crimes and Axis extermination campaigns. The Soviet sure as heck conducted massive war crimes, the Western allies as well, and they should be discussed and condemned, but never used as a way to open the door for equating what was done by the Axis powers. Bleiburg is already used by Neo-nazi ustashas as a way of muddying the water and making everything into a grey zone that justifies Axis extermination campaigns. I am sure you didn't mean to do this on purpose, but what I wrote hopefully made you think even a second about the formulation before the logical fallacy accusations? Anyway, just my opinion I guess. Go ahead and give a short snazzy answer or ignore it. All I wanted was to express an opinion that hopefully others also resonate with but couldn't or wouldn't want to utter.
This channel never fails to teach, no matter how much I learn about WW2.
Thanks, Andrew!
Who is putting this shit on YT and why?
Croatia just wanted out of Serb state and took the chance. Never had any agenda of taking someoneelses teritory
That is an over-simplification.
Sad 😢👌
Indeed.
11:06 Pavelic actually ran to South AMerica, where he was killed by serbian chetnik agent Blagoje Jovovic.
Believe he wasn't killed right away, but eventually passed away from the damage from the wounds much later on.
@@HistoryHustle that is true, he lived more after assassination attempt. It is an interesting story to cover, but sources are scarce.
My great grandpa on moms side was domobran and on dads side both of them were ustashes
What can you tell us about their experiences?
@@HistoryHustle Well nobody talks what my great grandpas that were ustashe did so yea. My great grandpa that was domobran was conscripted just like all domobrans were but he didnt mind since he was patriotic. War didnt leave any conequncies on him excpet worse hearing. He loved being in army and when he was on training in austria he became good friends with some slovenes with whom he later escaped from partisans in 1945.
Interesting to read, thanks for taking the time to write this down.
Croatia was never deNazified and to this day, many Croats continue to deny the reality of this horrific genocide. This is main reason for instability in the Balkans.
Wouldn't say all Croats of today supported what the NDH did. Yet, I agree, many still deny the crimes of the NDH.
Don't tell bullshit boy. The only reason for instability in Balkan were always the serbs !!!
This is fascinating. A gap in my knowledge is filled. Thank you.
Thanks for your reply, Sean!
At 10:20 the “atrocity” you named, was an execution of traitors and Nazi collaborators, which was at the time a completely normal and fitting punishment.
Shortly after you mentioned Pavelic as being the main escapee from the NDH regime. But there was also another named Aloysius Stepinac. Who was the Catholic archbishop of Zagreb, you can find many pictures of him around Pavelic, presiding over funerals for Nazis, and being a passive supporter of the regime. Unfortunately, there are many streets and churches still named after him all over Croatia.
People like to see Croatia now as this hip vacation spot however they never realize that these people inflicted one of the most gruesome genocides ever during the war. I’d like to just say thank you for exposing some of these atrocities to the wider public. As someone the region you’re talking about, this means a lot.
@@northernstar4811 You must not know history because he was jailed by the communists for treason. He was obviously not a communist. And your point is senseless
@Radagast what crime are you referring to
@@northernstar4811 You’re not making any sense
@@northernstar4811 That’s so far from the truth you have no idea how brainwashed you are
Think Bleiburg sure was an atrocity, since prisoners of war can be taken. Instead, most of them were shot without any form of justice. What the ustasha did was very wrong, that doesn't make the partisans good.
Great work Bro, Appreciate your time and research.
Thanks, Keith!
"What about the droid attack on the wookies?"
But the far bigger question: "What about Croatia in WW2?"
Fair enough.
My Grandfather was 16 when he was in the army of the ustashe he fighted against tito partisans and repaired many German Tanks Thank God he survived the War.
Thanks for sharing.
Just so you know, the Partisans (under Tito's leadership) often recruited and allowed turncoat Chetniks and Ustashe to join their ranks instead of letting manpower go to waste, so I think that sheds a bit more light to why the Partisans felt empowered to simply shoot all those Ustasha at the end of the war without trial. Not saying it's justified, but they had ample opportunity by that point, to abandon the Ustasha way, hence the commies felt justified in thinking these are the most fervent believers of this Ultranationalist movement.
Another thing I wanted to point out - the Domobranci (pronounced with an ee at the end as well) is often very faithfully translated to simply the Homeguard since "dom" means home and "braniti" means to defend or guard.
Partisans did proclamed that anyone can join them, but not many of them survived after "joining" - they were either killed or sent to Russia to be killed. Partisans were not morally high and clean army and that was the fact that Tito and his followers tried very hard to cover up, by spreading the greatness and heroism of partisans through movies and making Tito godlike and ultimate savior - to create artifcial unity and brotherhood based on fear and devotion (don't get me wrong, living under Tito was better option than NDH with starving population, conflict and death camps). General population didn't know about that massacre until the 90s when Slovenians and Croats were making road to Austria (timing for doing that might have been intetional since Tuđman was one of the first ones that reaserched that event but he was forbidden to speak about it). There were only stories and shallow mass graves where locals would stumble on bones and bodies near some towns but it was very much a hush - hush thing. I think killing them was just the easiest thing to do since they've lost. Its not like anyone had any symphaty for the other side.
Speaking up in media about that massacre in the 90s was unfortunately one of the anti-yugoslavian war propaganda used to fuel Croats against Jugoslavian National Army, (where Serbs were in majority ). And the WWII was used to fuel Serbian extreme nationalists to find justification for genocide in 90s (someone has to said it). Since borders were not established and everyone wanted their piece of cake of failed communism, it was not easy to devided the territory and different war propagandas were created - some of them based of pseudohistory, old political aspirations and some of them based to fule hate. The worse part about the 90s was not the hate, but the fact that "patriotic politicians" after their army gained the county, were selling that part to the enemy side again to earn money. Bosnia was place where many todays rich and influencial Croats, Serbs, Muslims and others earned ridiculous amount of money through war "profit" - or to better say - money laundering. One weapon was in the hands of serbs, croats and muslims because they were selling it to each other. Low scum and smugglers have bought the ex-yu great companies for cheap money beacuse of the ridiculous monetary law in Bosnia and destroyed it or they've got so rich by selling it later or kept the management that knew what was doing. That is why everyone rich or in power looks like a dumb fat pig.
Thank you Stefan for this awful chapter in European history, to tell all what actually happened in this corner of Europe in the 2nd World War even though it is so horrifying
Thank you for replying!
stop promoting communist lies
@@ottavva these are not communist lies. These are facts
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the fukk you know
E.O.D.
@@ottavva I know better than you. You are a denier of genocide