I've had a metal roof like this since 2009 in the Northeast and it handles hail, trees, ice and snow beautifully. Finish is still amazing, and I get compliments all the time. We used "Interlock" brand, which may be a northeast name for a broadly available product. It looks a lot like the stuff Matt is installing.
I did a metal roof 17 years ago in Las Vegas, a Spanish Tile look, Here’s another Great advantage besides the weight. There’s a coating underneath that dissipates the Heat, and you know how Hot it gets in Vegas. During the summer you can’t touch that clay tile and it holds the Heat. If it’s 110 degrees during the day at 2:00 in the morning it’s still 101, that’s Why you’re running the AC 24/7. I could touch the metal roof without smelling my skin burn. I swear the attic was 35-40 degrees cooler
I found individual metal shingles in my neighbors attic where the roof line was changed. Really cool ones, and very old! I was a roofer for many years, didnt know they had these back then.
To get to the point quickly, if you want a truly long lasting roof just invest in one roof which won't ever rust or decompose, ie. a slate roof. My parents cape cod style house has had a slate roof for 73 years without a leak. The house was built by the builder of all the homes on the street for his daughter's family so everything was top quality. The only problem that rarely occurs is the steel roofing nails rusting through and the piece of slate falls down into the gutter undamaged. You just re-nail it in place. In 73 years no more than a dozen shingles have had to be re-nailed in place. You pay extra up front for slate shingles but then can totally forget about the roof. I've seen slate roofed homes which were demo'd and the slates were carefully removed for re-use on another home. They're quite the win-win choice.
The problem is. American's own a house for an average of 7 years before they move on to something else. Unless you are talking a high end house, likely not a good investment and when the rubber meets the road, will likely not make the house worth much if any more. In Europe and countries like Germany where they have houses that stay in the family for multiple generations. We spoiled American's get tired with things too quickly, throw it aside and move to something different. Sad, but true.
Why are they so expensive to install? A lot of the old houses in Ohio have slate roofs. Surely a lot of those folks were not rich. Was slate just cheap back then and easy to install and then got more expensive over time?
Dennis Fernau Actually Europeans tend to move house almost as frequently. It's just that slate and tile are expected here. Houses don't command a premium because of it, but a house with an alternative roof will certainly be less saleable. The thing about slate and tile, is that they last indefinitely and we prefer the reassurance that we won't have to replace the roof within a few years of moving in.
I've had a similar metal roof that's matte dark grey for 9 years. It still looks new! My house was built in 1904 and some moron nailed through the original slate roof while they were putting on a crappy asphalt roof. We wanted to get back the Victorian look and it is awesome.
I installed roofs for 2 years and I've never seen a metal shingle. You got the most unique stuff on here. I've done metal roofs but they are sheets not shingles.
I'm going 2 years as a pro and helped out on weekends for 5 years have never seen metal shingles installed. I've heard of them as well as stone coated metal roofs that look like asphalt but haven't used any. It's just that people don't really go to these products due to their cost. It's already rare enough to see presidential shingles and they are expensive. GAF Glenwood is already very expensive, Home Depot sells it at around $36 a bundle and it takes 9 bundles a square. That's $324 a square while Owens Corning Duration Storm is only around $120-$140 a Square.
@@bryanmartinez6600 I think it's also being unaware if the product. I was only aware of the sheet metal roofing (which I associate with country styling), but saw this video ruclips.net/video/cAcsEV6B2Qk/видео.html and am interested. Not sure if I'd be as willing to try this, vice the asphalt shingle.
I put on a metal roof over 20 years ago when living in California. Much lighter roof than the previous cedar shake roof (especially when wet). Because the roof loading is less, it is more effective in preventing earthquake damage on the building structure. A second advantage, a metal roof is far more effective from external fire damage. The only negative aspect is that TV antennas in the attic no longer worked....
Interesting Keith. But now nobody cares about TV antennas anymore. So now with these new designs the appeal is substantial. I wonder how easy it is to keep cool in this house. I had new build home in CA that had beautiful concrete shingle tiles and at about 1pm every night the horrible heat would radiate through the house like an easy bake oven and you would sweat in bed if you didn't have the AC on and I wasn't comfortable having the windows open in CA. It was incredible how hot this roof made the house. I installed a whole house fan to deal with this problem. It was great but whenever you didn't have it running the house would again heat up and bake even though it had next level high rated insulation and had an energy star certification. Another draw back to the wonderful fresh air from the whole house fan is it also brought in dust into the house.
@@orlandotourist4302 That's not entirely true. Lots of people who live outside of urban areas still care very much about TV antenna signals, as they frequently don't have Cable TV in their areas, and also don't have sufficient internet capacity to rely on streaming video services. My parents are one example, and we're still up in the northeast where even "rural" isn't that secluded. I'd imagine the issue only gets worse as you get out into the midwest.
Matt you should check out Decra too we had one installed 5 or so years ago we absolutely love it, it looks like a shingled roof and I don't think anyone would know either. Down side we were the first in the south to have one so they say, I think if memory serves they do more out towards California, the first installer messed it up and it had some leaks. Decra stepped up and got someone out here and did a beautiful job with no charge to us. I can't remember the wind ratings but I remember it was pretty high compared to normal roofing when I looked it up also has a 50 year warranty, this is all from memory. To date we have been through hail and a few hurricanes with 20in+ of rain in a day with zero problems. I think it was rated to 2" hail with no damage.
I like the look of the Decra product, but the installed cost is about 4x that of 30-year asphalt and 3x 50-year asphalt. Personally, I REALLY want to get a way from asphalt on my house, but a $80K roof on a 3000 sf ranch house (45 degree pitch) is just too expensive!
Thanks for sharing. Metal is the way to go. Asphalt shingles are short term disposable junk. There are literally mountains of asphalt waste in every local landfill (I've seen it) What most people don't know is that metal roofing can be pressure washed, primed and repainted down the road when the paint fades or starts looking faded or chalky.
Homeowner here. I've installed a metal roof by myself (50 yr warranty) and it took a bit of work (I'm a perfectionist) and it turned out great. Air gap helps keep things cooler. Insulating foam helps. It does take a bit of training, and mine was a different style with more dimension to it. Very walkable on the front edge that bent down to the next level down. Prep is CRITICAL for straight lines. There's no forgiveness and sloppiness here! Valleys take extra work for a tight fit. Some metal bending and cutting needed. Yes it cost extra, but I didn't have to retrofit the house for extra weight. I had cedar shingles before with skip sheathing.
In northern climates that get a lot of snow there is a problem with large sheets of snow/ice sliding off the roof all at once. This happened to a neighbor where the ice chunk busted his AC condenser. There are these spikes or blocks that need to be installed around the lower side of the roof to prevent this. Please do a video explaining this.
I think the days of asphalt 3 tab old school shingles are limited. People are sick of replacing them in every wind strorm, or every major hail storm, and the life span. I wonder if insurance companies will look into this and give you lower premiums if you do roofs like this.
I agree with ya Virgil and that would be nice, but think about what you just said " Insurance companies giving lowering premiums" That's kind of an oxymoron ?
D B, Really ? In half just for a metal roof, did they say the specific reason. I would think it would go up do to the fact that you're increasing the value of the home.
Insurance companies do prefer metal roofs and have to factor in risk to their premiums. So more often then not especially if the metal roof is a under insurance replacement they will adjust your premium for the lower risk. Metal roofs are not only more durable but far easier to repair. If one part of a roof gets heavily hail damaged on asphalt shingle you can't really just replace that one spot. It will look different due to wear and not to mention the lifetime of the surrounding shingles is much less. Metal roofs on the other hand can easily be recoated if need be to match wear and their far greater durability means they aren't paying for a repair that will have to be replaced anyway in 5-10 years when the other shingles wear out. Metal roofs also lower the insurance risk because they are not as prone to snow loading as an asphalt roof so there is less chance of a collapse. And to protect areas people may be under when snow breaks loose horizontal snow guards are easy to install.
I think when it comes to replace my asphalt shingles I will be going this route, or something similar. Not going to tear up a completely good roof. I manually tabbed my asphalt shingles about 7 years ago after loosing some here and there due to wind. Took me an entire weekend, but I dont lose shingles anymore
I have had a similar product on a roof in Oklahoma and a hail storm dented the heck out of it. Looked like someone beat it with a ball peen hammer. Luckily it was a rental for me and the rental policy didn’t have the cosmetic damage exclusion. So we replaced it with UL2218 Class 4 impact resistant shingles and cut our insurance in half. If it had been a home owner policy they would have had the exclusion that doesn’t cover cosmetic damage and I would have been stuck with a dented roof. Matt is off with his description of impact resistance. Sure, it will hold up but look like crap after a decent hail storm.
If the prices are comparable to Certainteed Matterhorn then in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia you're looking at $450/sq and around $1000 installed. Make sure your roofer has been trained since they are significantly different from asphalt.
Looks great. I wonder if there is an impact on cellular reception. Not generally the first thing you consider with roofing material selection. However, my in-laws have a heavy, steel “terracotta-look” roof. Cellular reception is heavily impacted in their home. You’d have to step outside to take a call or be near windows to get a better signal. We ended up installing an internal cellular transmitter to address the issue. And more recently with newer technology, we use wifi calling. Guess I’ve answered my own question is some ways.
I just ordered a roof that looks similar. The black tiles actually act as solar collectors, it comes installed with two battery storage units. For a 3000 sq. house it came to $41,000 after Fed credit. Yea ! No more electric bills !
Lots of choices for roof coverings. They all have good and bad. Pick the one you like and get the best installer you can find. That being said, nothing better than slate for steep slope roofing. The longevity of slate is key to its value in the eyes of homeowners. After all, roofing can be expensive. Slate is one of the few roofing options that doesn't need to be replaced within the span of a lifetime. In most environments, slate shingles will last at least 125 years and sometimes as long as 200 years.
THANKS MUCH !! and different Underlayments i have not seen. Just STILL REALLY NEED A Wood Worker (i can trust) to construct a different Roof Frame over back room.
In my humble opinion metal is the best choice. In 26 years I re-roofed 4 times - and while I was younger, and in one case due to a tornado. I am 58 now - I'll never recommend anything else. And with a 32 year guarantee, (easily lasts 40 years), I'll never roof again. Just my 2 cents given my experience.
In a weird way, I also like the ability to bend these shingles to contour to the eaves you've got there, but from a traditional perspective, try bending slate! Haha!
This is a lovely look, especially for houses made of cracked stone or even cracked concrete block. I'd put this on a commercial building of such block, using a Mansard design. I have experimented personally with radiant barrier, and glass films, on property I own, to great success in southern California where the sun really bears down. A radiant barrier needs to be shiny, to work, on at least one side, and that's the side that needs an air gap. (A vacuum gap would be even better, but that's impossible.) I doubt this roof will serve that purpose, with its lack of sheen and that mesh beneath; the heat can conduct via the mesh, to the sub-roof, and then radiate into the attic. So that attic might not be such a conditioned space, when it's all done. I hope there is follow up, with temperature readings ... sans HVAC assist. Vive le motif de la toiture française.
A couple of thoughts. 1. Is a painted metal shingle still considered a barrier to radiant heat? I understand how galvanized steel will reflect a large portion of radiant heat, but painted steel gets just as hot a asphalt shingles in the sun it seems. 2. I can't see this being more hail resistant than decent asphalt shingles. Hit both with a plastic faced hammer a few times an see which one gets damaged more easily. I'd bet it's the steel. These may be more wind resistant if they bottom edge ties into the row below it though.
Garrard and Sierra stone-coated steel (invented in Australia, 30 years ago) are pinned in the front. In the College Hills, Glendale CA fires of ~1990 (my home town, and near where I grew up), caused by notorious arsonist John Orr on a Santa-Ana wind day, the only houses left standing were those with stone-coated steel roofs. Clay tiles are pinned in the back and they blew off, rendering their advertised fire resistance useless.
Some of us guys from church went to put a tarp on an elderly lady's house after a tornado and she had a metal shingle roof. The only place where there was any shingle damage was where trees punctured holes in the roof, none were lifted. The house was an older concrete block home and other than the tree damage the home was fine. Across the highway where the tornado was confirmed to be an FROM all the homes were leveled.
Pretty good shingles. I installed a lot of them. Impressive color options and good coating. Few problems - PRICE .... insane!!! Doesn't make any sense.... - Lead time...... Sometimes i have a feeling that materials come from Mars. - From installation point - clip system is outdated now. Really slows you down. - Snow stops works , ... but not always. If you live up north and have a lot of snow, You not lucky with pitch and configuration of the roof. Then of of these avalanches will tear snow stops down. Cheers
It's hard to get Insurances to cover these metal roofs, because if you get dents all over your roof from hail they call it cosmetic. Also you can't stand on them, when putting up xmas lights, makes it harder. I like euro shingles, they are a true life time shingle and hail proof, they also are insulating.
@@OzarkGenerations Just because you do something, doesn't mean you should have. Unless they are walk on rated you shouldn't. Most manufacturers clearly say don't walk on them.
Great question, hope you don't mind my input! Aluminum crushes very easily but often comes with a styrofoam backer. If walking on it may be needed to keep it clean always get the backer! In our climate, it's better to use steel, Kynar Coated Steel.
You can walk on a slate roof easily without damaging it. You just step on the part of the slate that's closest to where it's nailed down, ie. the part that's closest to the roof where it's supported directly underneath by the roof. After all, when slates have to be able to be replaced you have to walk on the slates to get to the point needing a repair. If anyone says you can't walk on a slate roof they don't know what they're talking about. It's a canard.
There are 2 that I know of Boral Granite Ridge and Decra shingle XD The thing is they cost several times more than normal shingles but can actually last a lifetime unlike shingles in my opinion. Have never done an install of them because of how expensive and shingles are common and more affordable. A good shingle is Owen's Corning Duration Storm
Usually when you go to a higher end roof, your trying to get away from that cheap asphalt look. Typically your trying to simulate shake, tile, stone roofs.
It's a good looking roof. If the paint is warranted for 30 years, how long will the steel last? I have one question/observation. Does the steel block cell signals? Cellular carriers don't guarantee connectivity indoors, and it is my experience that I miss more calls than I get. Will this only exacerbate the problem?
I understand. A good quality asphalt roof should be able to last 20-25 years at least. And don't forget that the average American has less than $1,000 in savings.
splashpit They have those in the States too. They suck. Cost about as much as the real thing, but they color will fade and they scratch very easily and cut pieces don't look right on one story buildings (or anywhere where they are visible from a window).
Great Moose Detective I guess it's down to the manufacturer , I have one that has been floating around my truck for about 10 years that I use for all manner of things and it's not scratched or faded . I get you're point about the cuts but here we traditionally put a bull nose capping on hips that hide cuts and keep the valley cuts tight so you don't see much .
splashpit I used CertainTeed's fake slate once about two years ago. It looked okay for our installation, but like i said, it scratched incredibly easily, and every cut revealed that the color is much lighter 1/16" below the surface. A hip roof with no trees over it would be fine, but cut shingles on any rake will look exactly like they are- cut plastic. I tried everything to blend them in (flipping the cut side to the inside and roughing up the cut to match the texture), and nothing looked good for the money. I would never use a fake slate again. Real slate is much nicer.
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Very melty / burny in fires, so no thanks - especially in hot, dry Oz.
So many good roofing alternatives these days. Keep these reviews coming! The non-steel metal roofing systems seem like some of best options right now IMO. Have you priced any of those, Matt?
There are a few stainless and aluminum options that should greatly outlast steel. I don't do many roofs anymore, so I can't make a personal recommendation. Would love to see Matt review some!
I would hope at the cost of this roof it would perform better than a cheap asphalt roof. However there are several asphalt shingles that perform very well in regards to hail. We put a roof on my parents house and it was nearly 5 times the cost to go metal vs asphalt. My dad did it but i won’t. Ps I make high end shingles. Lol
I can not find anything comparing metal shake, metal shingle, standing seams and stone coated roofs. manufacturers. My concern is with the differences in valleys, trapping water ezpansion and contraction and how that relate to caulking etc.
Just had Hy Grade Roofing install a metal roof at my house. Worst decision I could have made. They promised to install the roof in 4-6 weeks, of course they were late. When they finally showed up without the proper equipment and damaged my property. They are really proud of the “Quality Audit” that they do, but of course they won’t give you a copy of the audit…lol BTW -the “Quality Audit” they did at my house consisted of 2 guys coming over to pickup the leftover junk they left at my house for a month. They never even went up on the roof! Save your money use someone else!
I'm currently building a terrace and I want to cover it. There is already a roof on the house made of metal plates like yours. How do I connect the new roof to the old one? How do I put the plates under the old ones that are fixed
What about grapefruit-size hail? And how would it hold up with a solar array? And, of course, how would the solar array hold up to grapefruit-size hail?
Kynar is definitely a very durable thermoset polymer but it will degrade over time. What is the mil thickness of Kynar applied? 1, 2, 3 or more? That home is not spitting distance from Chicago 😏. Noise is not something new I want to endure. Kynar degrades. Paint fades. Then what is the surface prep like to repaint? Polyurea?
What about zinc? This looks beautiful and lasts ages, we’ve been using it for ages in Europe. in fact the Victorian railway station in my city was restored and re-roofed with zinc ‘scales’ ten years ago. Fabulous. Google Norwich Station roof... UK
I had 'man made' slate look put on my home.. each shingle is separate though.. I think it looks much more realistic than these sheets.. it just takes longer to instal ..
I scrolled through but didn't see if it was asked. What about the metal rusting? Esp in northern climates like Pennsylvania (phila) where days can be extremely icy then next day melt then re ice again
what about the rumor that mades when it's raning? is it going to be loudy af ? or is it something underneath that keeps it sturdy from flexing and trembeling ?
Mr-Bledi .....not too bad. One area of my house is roof directly over living space....2x6 rafters, insulation, plywood, roofing paper, then shingles. Maybe slightly noisier, yet not unpleasant.
Most old slate roofs have the progressively less weather exposure. Up the roof from the eaves. Does this product have this? Some colour mottling would also make it look authentic
Nice vid! Very informative. Matt, how many of the details on the build are you involved with during the design process? Like do you pick the rain screens or does the architect?
I was looking for metal roofing and had a roofer tell me to not go with metal roofing due to heat expansion and winter cold pulling out fasteners (?) causing leaks that are almost impossible to find. Neighbor across the street with metal roof just 'foamed' over the metal in their back due to leaks (blech)! How does this hold up in the desert southwest temperature swings?
Great videos! To the point, informative and encourages proper installation techniques! Former building inspector here.
I’m just trying
I’m happy to find this! Our 130 years old steel roof has finally given out. Actually the nailing gave out.
I've had a metal roof like this since 2009 in the Northeast and it handles hail, trees, ice and snow beautifully. Finish is still amazing, and I get compliments all the time. We used "Interlock" brand, which may be a northeast name for a broadly available product. It looks a lot like the stuff Matt is installing.
I did a metal roof 17 years ago in Las Vegas, a Spanish Tile look, Here’s another Great advantage besides the weight. There’s a coating underneath that dissipates the Heat, and you know how Hot it gets in Vegas. During the summer you can’t touch that clay tile and it holds the Heat. If it’s 110 degrees during the day at 2:00 in the morning it’s still 101, that’s Why you’re running the AC 24/7. I could touch the metal roof without smelling my skin burn. I swear the attic was 35-40 degrees cooler
I found individual metal shingles in my neighbors attic where the roof line was changed. Really cool ones, and very old! I was a roofer for many years, didnt know they had these back then.
Can you do a follow up to show how it is installed?
Evidently not.....LOL
Here's some good info, not enough to be a tutorial. ruclips.net/video/cAcsEV6B2Qk/видео.html
How has color held up.
To get to the point quickly, if you want a truly long lasting roof just invest in one roof which won't ever rust or decompose, ie. a slate roof. My parents cape cod style house has had a slate roof for 73 years without a leak. The house was built by the builder of all the homes on the street for his daughter's family so everything was top quality. The only problem that rarely occurs is the steel roofing nails rusting through and the piece of slate falls down into the gutter undamaged. You just re-nail it in place. In 73 years no more than a dozen shingles have had to be re-nailed in place. You pay extra up front for slate shingles but then can totally forget about the roof. I've seen slate roofed homes which were demo'd and the slates were carefully removed for re-use on another home. They're quite the win-win choice.
The problem is. American's own a house for an average of 7 years before they move on to something else. Unless you are talking a high end house, likely not a good investment and when the rubber meets the road, will likely not make the house worth much if any more. In Europe and countries like Germany where they have houses that stay in the family for multiple generations. We spoiled American's get tired with things too quickly, throw it aside and move to something different. Sad, but true.
Why are they so expensive to install? A lot of the old houses in Ohio have slate roofs. Surely a lot of those folks were not rich. Was slate just cheap back then and easy to install and then got more expensive over time?
Why are there steel nails slate should be installed using copper nails.
Dennis Fernau Actually Europeans tend to move house almost as frequently. It's just that slate and tile are expected here. Houses don't command a premium because of it, but a house with an alternative roof will certainly be less saleable. The thing about slate and tile, is that they last indefinitely and we prefer the reassurance that we won't have to replace the roof within a few years of moving in.
NOTHING beats a standing seam copper roof. The house will rot away before the copper roof does.
Thank you for sharing comments regarding homes in the north!
I've had a similar metal roof that's matte dark grey for 9 years. It still looks new! My house was built in 1904 and some moron nailed through the original slate roof while they were putting on a crappy asphalt roof. We wanted to get back the Victorian look and it is awesome.
I installed roofs for 2 years and I've never seen a metal shingle. You got the most unique stuff on here. I've done metal roofs but they are sheets not shingles.
I'm going 2 years as a pro and helped out on weekends for 5 years have never seen metal shingles installed.
I've heard of them as well as stone coated metal roofs that look like asphalt but haven't used any.
It's just that people don't really go to these products due to their cost.
It's already rare enough to see presidential shingles and they are expensive. GAF Glenwood is already very expensive, Home Depot sells it at around $36 a bundle and it takes 9 bundles a square. That's $324 a square while Owens Corning Duration Storm is only around $120-$140 a Square.
@@bryanmartinez6600 I think it's also being unaware if the product. I was only aware of the sheet metal roofing (which I associate with country styling), but saw this video ruclips.net/video/cAcsEV6B2Qk/видео.html and am interested. Not sure if I'd be as willing to try this, vice the asphalt shingle.
LOL REALLY?! It's like first day on the job I saw one!
It would be nice to see how it's installed
Why don't you inquire with roofers, and let us know?
Step 1: Obtain roof.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit!
I put on a metal roof over 20 years ago when living in California. Much lighter roof than the previous cedar shake roof (especially when wet). Because the roof loading is less, it is more effective in preventing earthquake damage on the building structure. A second advantage, a metal roof is far more effective from external fire damage. The only negative aspect is that TV antennas in the attic no longer worked....
Interesting Keith. But now nobody cares about TV antennas anymore. So now with these new designs the appeal is substantial. I wonder how easy it is to keep cool in this house. I had new build home in CA that had beautiful concrete shingle tiles and at about 1pm every night the horrible heat would radiate through the house like an easy bake oven and you would sweat in bed if you didn't have the AC on and I wasn't comfortable having the windows open in CA. It was incredible how hot this roof made the house. I installed a whole house fan to deal with this problem. It was great but whenever you didn't have it running the house would again heat up and bake even though it had next level high rated insulation and had an energy star certification. Another draw back to the wonderful fresh air from the whole house fan is it also brought in dust into the house.
@@orlandotourist4302 That's not entirely true. Lots of people who live outside of urban areas still care very much about TV antenna signals, as they frequently don't have Cable TV in their areas, and also don't have sufficient internet capacity to rely on streaming video services. My parents are one example, and we're still up in the northeast where even "rural" isn't that secluded. I'd imagine the issue only gets worse as you get out into the midwest.
@@c182SkylaneRG Those are what we call poor people.
Matt you should check out Decra too we had one installed 5 or so years ago we absolutely love it, it looks like a shingled roof and I don't think anyone would know either. Down side we were the first in the south to have one so they say, I think if memory serves they do more out towards California, the first installer messed it up and it had some leaks. Decra stepped up and got someone out here and did a beautiful job with no charge to us. I can't remember the wind ratings but I remember it was pretty high compared to normal roofing when I looked it up also has a 50 year warranty, this is all from memory. To date we have been through hail and a few hurricanes with 20in+ of rain in a day with zero problems. I think it was rated to 2" hail with no damage.
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Don't think anyone would know? Keep telling yourself that. Doesn't take an experienced eye to notice these stamped metal roofs...
Decra is a great product fixed correctly, however it looks like what it is a pressed metal tile coated with a pretty impressive granite material.
Paul Webb, I think it looks better then shingles frankly.
I like the look of the Decra product, but the installed cost is about 4x that of 30-year asphalt and 3x 50-year asphalt. Personally, I REALLY want to get a way from asphalt on my house, but a $80K roof on a 3000 sf ranch house (45 degree pitch) is just too expensive!
Thanks for sharing. Metal is the way to go. Asphalt shingles are short term disposable junk. There are literally mountains of asphalt waste in every local landfill (I've seen it)
What most people don't know is that metal roofing can be pressure washed, primed and repainted down the road when the paint fades or starts looking faded or chalky.
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I hope that was open cell foam sprayed between the rafters since they are using a ice and rain shield barrier on the outside of the envelope.
Video idea.
Maybe do a video on solar panels and battery backups. With some common questions and some tips.
Ashish Patel seeing how California its Mandatory all new home building to have solar
That's on a different part of RUclips
Yes, that was my first thought. How is the solar install on these shingles
Homeowner here. I've installed a metal roof by myself (50 yr warranty) and it took a bit of work (I'm a perfectionist) and it turned out great. Air gap helps keep things cooler. Insulating foam helps. It does take a bit of training, and mine was a different style with more dimension to it. Very walkable on the front edge that bent down to the next level down. Prep is CRITICAL for straight lines. There's no forgiveness and sloppiness here! Valleys take extra work for a tight fit. Some metal bending and cutting needed. Yes it cost extra, but I didn't have to retrofit the house for extra weight. I had cedar shingles before with skip sheathing.
Ju, which manufacturer did you go with for your metal roof?
In northern climates that get a lot of snow there is a problem with large sheets of snow/ice sliding off the roof all at once. This happened to a neighbor where the ice chunk busted his AC condenser. There are these spikes or blocks that need to be installed around the lower side of the roof to prevent this. Please do a video explaining this.
You can build a cover for the AC condenser to protect it.
Good video good communication skills. I've done one metal roof in my lifetime still looks great.
Wish I had found this last year prior to redoing my asphalt shingle roof :(
I think the days of asphalt 3 tab old school shingles are limited. People are sick of replacing them in every wind strorm, or every major hail storm, and the life span. I wonder if insurance companies will look into this and give you lower premiums if you do roofs like this.
I agree with ya Virgil and that would be nice, but think about what you just said " Insurance companies giving lowering premiums" That's kind of an oxymoron ?
D B, Really ? In half just for a metal roof, did they say the specific reason. I would think it would go up do to the fact that you're increasing the value of the home.
Insurance companies do prefer metal roofs and have to factor in risk to their premiums. So more often then not especially if the metal roof is a under insurance replacement they will adjust your premium for the lower risk.
Metal roofs are not only more durable but far easier to repair. If one part of a roof gets heavily hail damaged on asphalt shingle you can't really just replace that one spot. It will look different due to wear and not to mention the lifetime of the surrounding shingles is much less.
Metal roofs on the other hand can easily be recoated if need be to match wear and their far greater durability means they aren't paying for a repair that will have to be replaced anyway in 5-10 years when the other shingles wear out.
Metal roofs also lower the insurance risk because they are not as prone to snow loading as an asphalt roof so there is less chance of a collapse. And to protect areas people may be under when snow breaks loose horizontal snow guards are easy to install.
Agreed they are complete garbage
I think when it comes to replace my asphalt shingles I will be going this route, or something similar. Not going to tear up a completely good roof. I manually tabbed my asphalt shingles about 7 years ago after loosing some here and there due to wind. Took me an entire weekend, but I dont lose shingles anymore
I have had a similar product on a roof in Oklahoma and a hail storm dented the heck out of it. Looked like someone beat it with a ball peen hammer. Luckily it was a rental for me and the rental policy didn’t have the cosmetic damage exclusion. So we replaced it with UL2218 Class 4 impact resistant shingles and cut our insurance in half. If it had been a home owner policy they would have had the exclusion that doesn’t cover cosmetic damage and I would have been stuck with a dented roof. Matt is off with his description of impact resistance. Sure, it will hold up but look like crap after a decent hail storm.
Metal roofs are very durable but after a hailstorm it will be no different than a car body.
If the prices are comparable to Certainteed Matterhorn then in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia you're looking at $450/sq and around $1000 installed. Make sure your roofer has been trained since they are significantly different from asphalt.
Thanks for all the great informative videos. I'm just a novice but still I learn a lot that I will use in the future.
I like ecostar's 100% recycled rubber slate looking shingles!
Looks great. I wonder if there is an impact on cellular reception. Not generally the first thing you consider with roofing material selection. However, my in-laws have a heavy, steel “terracotta-look” roof. Cellular reception is heavily impacted in their home. You’d have to step outside to take a call or be near windows to get a better signal. We ended up installing an internal cellular transmitter to address the issue. And more recently with newer technology, we use wifi calling. Guess I’ve answered my own question is some ways.
Learn about risks of WIFI -- major health problems. ELECTROSMOG.
Compare it to standing seam-that’s the most relevant comparison !
Why do people put these huge expensive houses on such tiny lots ? A giant French country house with views of neighbors from every window !
You ought to see Arcadia, CA ... mansions on postage stamp lots.
Simple, the cost of land in the city. It’s easy to buy land in rural areas not the city.
I just ordered a roof that looks similar. The black tiles actually act as solar collectors, it comes installed with two battery storage units. For a 3000 sq. house it came to $41,000 after Fed credit. Yea ! No more electric bills !
what was the product
@@frotobaggins7169 Maybe the Tesla solar roof. No other manufacturer offers solar panels disguised as regular shingles.
Lots of choices for roof coverings. They all have good and bad. Pick the one you like and get the best installer you can find. That being said, nothing better than slate for steep slope roofing. The longevity of slate is key to its value in the eyes of homeowners. After all, roofing can be expensive. Slate is one of the few roofing options that doesn't need to be replaced within the span of a lifetime. In most environments, slate shingles will last at least 125 years and sometimes as long as 200 years.
No-one's gonna think it is a slate roof if they see curved eaves - slate is formed in dead flat layers so it doesn't come curved
No shit Sherlock! The point is it's very close for the cost and weight savings.
THANKS MUCH !! and different Underlayments i have not seen.
Just STILL REALLY NEED A Wood Worker (i can trust) to construct a different Roof Frame over back room.
In my humble opinion metal is the best choice. In 26 years I re-roofed 4 times - and while I was younger, and in one case due to a tornado. I am 58 now - I'll never recommend anything else. And with a 32 year guarantee, (easily lasts 40 years), I'll never roof again.
Just my 2 cents given my experience.
In a weird way, I also like the ability to bend these shingles to contour to the eaves you've got there, but from a traditional perspective, try bending slate! Haha!
Bend it baby!
This is a lovely look, especially for houses made of cracked stone or even cracked concrete block. I'd put this on a commercial building of such block, using a Mansard design.
I have experimented personally with radiant barrier, and glass films, on property I own, to great success in southern California where the sun really bears down. A radiant barrier needs to be shiny, to work, on at least one side, and that's the side that needs an air gap. (A vacuum gap would be even better, but that's impossible.) I doubt this roof will serve that purpose, with its lack of sheen and that mesh beneath; the heat can conduct via the mesh, to the sub-roof, and then radiate into the attic. So that attic might not be such a conditioned space, when it's all done.
I hope there is follow up, with temperature readings ... sans HVAC assist.
Vive le motif de la toiture française.
Another good one Matt . . . Thank you
How "walkable" is it? Looks like it'd dent easily under foot.
if you wear snowshoes, it won't cave in.
Socks and under 100pds!
If lightining strikes, do i feel a tickle under my britches?
A couple of thoughts.
1. Is a painted metal shingle still considered a barrier to radiant heat? I understand how galvanized steel will reflect a large portion of radiant heat, but painted steel gets just as hot a asphalt shingles in the sun it seems.
2. I can't see this being more hail resistant than decent asphalt shingles. Hit both with a plastic faced hammer a few times an see which one gets damaged more easily. I'd bet it's the steel. These may be more wind resistant if they bottom edge ties into the row below it though.
Check out Edco metal shakes. Lifetime warranty and transferable. Made in USA
How does this hold up in wind?
160 mph according to website
Garrard and Sierra stone-coated steel (invented in Australia, 30 years ago) are pinned in the front. In the College Hills, Glendale CA fires of ~1990 (my home town, and near where I grew up), caused by notorious arsonist John Orr on a Santa-Ana wind day, the only houses left standing were those with stone-coated steel roofs. Clay tiles are pinned in the back and they blew off, rendering their advertised fire resistance useless.
Some of us guys from church went to put a tarp on an elderly lady's house after a tornado and she had a metal shingle roof. The only place where there was any shingle damage was where trees punctured holes in the roof, none were lifted. The house was an older concrete block home and other than the tree damage the home was fine. Across the highway where the tornado was confirmed to be an FROM all the homes were leveled.
DEREMEYER1 -- You made some good points, but thumbs down for all the shouting.
John Becich - double lock standing seam metal roof will last forever
Great video! As always
Pretty good shingles. I installed a lot of them. Impressive color options and good coating.
Few problems
- PRICE .... insane!!! Doesn't make any sense....
- Lead time...... Sometimes i have a feeling that materials come from Mars.
- From installation point - clip system is outdated now. Really slows you down.
- Snow stops works , ... but not always. If you live up north and have a lot of snow, You not lucky with pitch and configuration of the roof. Then of of these avalanches will tear snow stops down.
Cheers
It's hard to get Insurances to cover these metal roofs, because if you get dents all over your roof from hail they call it cosmetic. Also you can't stand on them, when putting up xmas lights, makes it harder. I like euro shingles, they are a true life time shingle and hail proof, they also are insulating.
installed about 12000 sq. ft. of this stuff. Walking on it wasn't a problem.
@@OzarkGenerations Just because you do something, doesn't mean you should have. Unless they are walk on rated you shouldn't. Most manufacturers clearly say don't walk on them.
Take a panel and huck some golf and baseballs at it to simulate hail storm, I'd love to see what happens. Really good looking roof. Thanks
Cost compared to 30yr asphalt shingles?
Roll over method is another common installation practice to eliminate J.
“30 year”
How's this roof holding up so far?
@@edmora1935 my 25 year are holding up pretty well at 21 years in, western ny state. Time to look into doing something.
What happens when you walk on it?
Great question, hope you don't mind my input! Aluminum crushes very easily but often comes with a styrofoam backer. If walking on it may be needed to keep it clean always get the backer! In our climate, it's better to use steel, Kynar Coated Steel.
You can walk on a slate roof easily without damaging it. You just step on the part of the slate that's closest to where it's nailed down, ie. the part that's closest to the roof where it's supported directly underneath by the roof. After all, when slates have to be able to be replaced you have to walk on the slates to get to the point needing a repair. If anyone says you can't walk on a slate roof they don't know what they're talking about. It's a canard.
Have you ever considered reviewing the Tesla Solar Shingles or the new solar powered stainless steel roofs?
Raymond they’re still shit. They need several iterations before they are even remotely worth it.
Source: a solar guy intimately familiar with them
Could you update this roof. How has product held up. I like the look and want metal. Is it worth the cost. Thanks
Love it but, do they make this metal roof that imitates the asphalt shingles look?
There are 2 that I know of
Boral Granite Ridge and
Decra shingle XD
The thing is they cost several times more than normal shingles but can actually last a lifetime unlike shingles in my opinion.
Have never done an install of them because of how expensive and shingles are common and more affordable. A good shingle is Owen's Corning Duration Storm
Usually when you go to a higher end roof, your trying to get away from that cheap asphalt look. Typically your trying to simulate shake, tile, stone roofs.
It's a good looking roof. If the paint is warranted for 30 years, how long will the steel last?
I have one question/observation. Does the steel block cell signals? Cellular carriers don't guarantee connectivity indoors, and it is my experience that I miss more calls than I get. Will this only exacerbate the problem?
The building style may be in the country but it’s built in the city so it still a city house
What is the cost vs a traditional 3 tab roof?
Roofer's rule of thumb as of 2018, 2.5 xs.
@@Austinroofingcontractors So instead of $12,000 for a roof replacement, figure $30,000......wow!
I understand. A good quality asphalt roof should be able to last 20-25 years at least. And don't forget that the average American has less than $1,000 in savings.
Show a vid on installation as to how you stage the roof.
Yep. Do it your self.
So cool
Matt, have you ever used Decra Steel Roofing?
You can get a recycled plastic shingle/shake here in Australia and the guy that makes them will guarantee them for 200 years .
splashpit
They have those in the States too. They suck. Cost about as much as the real thing, but they color will fade and they scratch very easily and cut pieces don't look right on one story buildings (or anywhere where they are visible from a window).
Great Moose Detective I guess it's down to the manufacturer , I have one that has been floating around my truck for about 10 years that I use for all manner of things and it's not scratched or faded .
I get you're point about the cuts but here we traditionally put a bull nose capping on hips that hide cuts and keep the valley cuts tight so you don't see much .
splashpit
I used CertainTeed's fake slate once about two years ago. It looked okay for our installation, but like i said, it scratched incredibly easily, and every cut revealed that the color is much lighter 1/16" below the surface. A hip roof with no trees over it would be fine, but cut shingles on any rake will look exactly like they are- cut plastic. I tried everything to blend them in (flipping the cut side to the inside and roughing up the cut to match the texture), and nothing looked good for the money. I would never use a fake slate again. Real slate is much nicer.
Very melty / burny in fires, so no thanks - especially in hot, dry Oz.
The guy that makes them won't be here in 200 years to claim your warranty.
I might go with this on a Mansard roof.
Love this metal shingle roof
I like to roll my real slate along the edges like that too.
Please come to Las Vegas NV and SHOW them how to BUILD houses the RIGHT WAY in dry and VERY HOT climate!!!!!
Finished roof reminds me of that SuperDura synthetic slate.....
So many good roofing alternatives these days. Keep these reviews coming! The non-steel metal roofing systems seem like some of best options right now IMO. Have you priced any of those, Matt?
Great Moose Detective Which ones in particular?
There are a few stainless and aluminum options that should greatly outlast steel. I don't do many roofs anymore, so I can't make a personal recommendation. Would love to see Matt review some!
sweet home. I like the roof too. can we see more of the home?
I would hope at the cost of this roof it would perform better than a cheap asphalt roof. However there are several asphalt shingles that perform very well in regards to hail. We put a roof on my parents house and it was nearly 5 times the cost to go metal vs asphalt. My dad did it but i won’t. Ps I make high end shingles. Lol
I can not find anything comparing metal shake, metal shingle, standing seams and stone coated roofs. manufacturers. My concern is with the differences in valleys, trapping water ezpansion and contraction and how that relate to caulking etc.
Miss the rouge videos...but you failed to tell us if this was steel or aluminum...
Just had Hy Grade Roofing install a metal roof at my house. Worst decision I could have made. They promised to install the roof in 4-6 weeks, of course they were late. When they finally showed up without the proper equipment and damaged my property. They are really proud of the “Quality Audit” that they do, but of course they won’t give you a copy of the audit…lol BTW -the “Quality Audit” they did at my house consisted of 2 guys coming over to pickup the leftover junk they left at my house for a month. They never even went up on the roof! Save your money use someone else!
I'm currently building a terrace and I want to cover it. There is already a roof on the house made of metal plates like yours. How do I connect the new roof to the old one? How do I put the plates under the old ones that are fixed
What about grapefruit-size hail? And how would it hold up with a solar array? And, of course, how would the solar array hold up to grapefruit-size hail?
Thanks really liking that look. 👀👍
won't attract lightning& firefighters love it
Black? In Austin. I know it might look nice but doesn't it absorb enough heat to be worth design changes?
How about Carlisle’s rubber slate tile? Very classic look add in some scalloped detail etc. also can Use their membraned ice and water barrier
Kynar is definitely a very durable thermoset polymer but it will degrade over time. What is the mil thickness of Kynar applied? 1, 2, 3 or more? That home is not spitting distance from Chicago 😏. Noise is not something new I want to endure. Kynar degrades. Paint fades. Then what is the surface prep like to repaint? Polyurea?
FANTASTIC!!!!!!!
What about zinc? This looks beautiful and lasts ages, we’ve been using it for ages in Europe. in fact the Victorian railway station in my city was restored and re-roofed with zinc ‘scales’ ten years ago. Fabulous. Google Norwich Station roof... UK
It must be super expensive. You didn't even mention cost. The number one factor in any building project.
I was quoted between 2.90 and 3.25 per sq foot for the metal. Not that bad.
I had 'man made' slate look put on my home.. each shingle is separate though.. I think it looks much more realistic than these sheets.. it just takes longer to instal ..
Is there a reason there isn't a 1x2 behind that drip edge to keep water off that fascia?
like your video's , honest opinions
Hey Matt, love the video - could you do a video using edco metal siding and review it?
Is a metal roof loud in a rain storm like the old tin roof?
Great video!
Beautiful roof. BTW, can these metal shingles be installed right over a one layer asphalt roof?
Yes. This product can lay over the existing shingle or “direct to deck”. Installed many like this.
Absolutely. I believe they recommend installing felt paper over the original asphalt shingles, then the metal.
Marvin windows ayyyy woop woop
That looks good.
I scrolled through but didn't see if it was asked. What about the metal rusting? Esp in northern climates like Pennsylvania (phila) where days can be extremely icy then next day melt then re ice again
what about the rumor that mades when it's raning? is it going to be loudy af ? or is it something underneath that keeps it sturdy from flexing and trembeling ?
Mr-Bledi .....not too bad. One area of my house is roof directly over living space....2x6 rafters, insulation, plywood, roofing paper, then shingles. Maybe slightly noisier, yet not unpleasant.
How does it compare to asphalt shingles as far as developing leaks over maybe 20 years?
Nice roof, good video!!
What about lightning/lightning strikes? How this roof react to a lightning strike?
Most old slate roofs have the progressively less weather exposure. Up the roof from the eaves. Does this product have this? Some colour mottling would also make it look authentic
Matt what do you think of EDCO verses TAMKO?
how did it take you to install it or did you hire a roofer
Nice vid! Very informative. Matt, how many of the details on the build are you involved with during the design process? Like do you pick the rain screens or does the architect?
how loud is the raindrop noise compared to traditional metal roofing?
How well would this roof work for a rain harvesting system? I'm guessing great with water runoff but I'd like to hear more. Thanks
Should work great, but you might contact the manufacturer about paint composition and if there is any lead at all in the materials.
How does this compare to something like a Euroshield rubber roof?
I would like to know which is more resistant to hail.
I was looking for metal roofing and had a roofer tell me to not go with metal roofing due to heat expansion and winter cold pulling out fasteners (?) causing leaks that are almost impossible to find. Neighbor across the street with metal roof just 'foamed' over the metal in their back due to leaks (blech)! How does this hold up in the desert southwest temperature swings?