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What I'm looking for is a 22 or 24 gage standing seam flat panel white metal roof with 2 inches of closed cell foam on the back. Unfortunately, everything I find is 26 or 29 gage, and has a second metal skin on the inside. I want the foam backing to eliminate thermal bridging, then spray an additional layer of foam on the inside to tie everything together. Do you have any suggestions?
what do i for interior? is it possible to attach dry way to the interior? what about rain sounds. LOUD. also im my opinion ts ugly on the inside how do i make it less ugly?
Had a metal roof put on my roof last year. I had the Amish put it on and if you know anything about these people, they are the most meticulous with what they do than any contractor I have ever worked with and could not be happier with the end result!
My experience: First, I over tightened the screws. This squashes the grommet and in a very short time it will become cracked and it will leak water. Second, in an effort to not over tighten the screws I actually didn't screw them in far enough. The result was an inadequate seal between the roof and the washer. This will cause a leak. What seems to work for me is to tighten the screw all the way until I see the grommet start to squish so that I know everything is tight and then I back the screw out slightly until the grommet isn't bulging out. So I think that over tightening or undertaking screws can be a big deal.
I had metal roof for 30 years it is best I ever had, I never worried if snow would pile up, it will just go off my roof easily and a great fire prevent. I would recommend metal roof to everyone. especially for rural dwellers.
The fire protection is actually a misconception. Metal roofs transfer heat better, which means that the wood beneath the roof is more likely to catch fire with a metal roof
The oil-canning rippling you show if caused by running it through the mill and the crimped edge is being stretch. One way to not have that ripple affect is to purchase metal roofing which has a shallow rib down the center of the sheet. FYI, I used to run a small Steel roofing plant in Oregon. We ran out steel roofing such as you're showing and if I remember correctly, all colored metal roofing is galvanized then painted. Simple scratches are not to be worried about, it is the deep gouges where the scrape goes through the galvanization to the steel underneath, which then would be a problem. I also used to install that roofing on homes and out-buildings, such as barns. Remember though my friends that when running the sheet steel through the former it is sheared to length. Where it is sheared the steel will be exposed to the elements, and will rust eventually but only on the eve end of the sheet as the ridge end of the sheet will be covered with the ridge cap. Your discussion on "Dissimilar Metals" is a good one. What happens is called Electrolysis when two dissimilar metals come in contact. I am not sure about Galvalume though. It usually happens when an aluminum roofing is screwed down with steel screws, or visa versa. Chalking is because of cheap paint and if it happens within five years I would be talking to a lawyer, because painted roofing should last 20 years easily. Remember though my friends all paint exposed to the sun will fade eventually, but the chalking shown in the video is bad paint. Also, if you live in area where Acid Rain happens it will hasten the chalking and corrosion. If you are considering putting on steel roofing make sure your installer is bonded and insured with guarantees on the installation. Another problem not mentioned is that steel roofing sweats, so moisture barriers must be installed underneath to keep the accumulated condensation from dripping into the attic. Some installers staple insulation batting between the rafters so the warmth from the house does not reach the steel. Some go so far as to screw down 1 &1/2" to 2" stiff insulation that the metal is then adhered to.
Thanks for this info! I’m considering buying a home in the Sierra Foothills in California. The area around the house has a very large cleared fire safety zone…and the 5 acres of forest have the understory very cleared….but…as we know…fires are going nuts in Calif. My friend who works for a home building company up there said metal roofs are not fire safe. The heat and embers are drawn up the ridges and get held in the attic making your house like a fireplace. What do you think as far as fire safety? These fires have been burning everything….melting metal and solar panels etc. Even if the fire itself doesn’t reach the house…the heat from the trees around the property and embers blowing could ignite in the attic. So I don’t think the metal roof really helps and maybe it’s actually bad. My friend says comp shingles are much better. Any opinion/advice?
@@moonbeammagic7499 Yes I do. Anyone trying to sell you on Comp shingles on a mountain home with trees within 15 yards of your home is trying to sell you a bill of goods. Don't buy it ! You can order different types of metal roofing styles and in different gauges (thickness) as well. The thicker the metal the better chance you have of keeping embers from over heating the metal. If you truly want a fireproof roof, then I would go with shaped concrete tiles as long as you would not be in a heavy snow zone. Because those tiles will amount to a heavier roof, the whole roof structure must be enhanced. With that in mind a light snow once in a while that melts fairly quickly would be no problem. If it is wet snow that would be the problem because wet snow can get really really heave fairly quickly at about 7 lbs per gallon. Why would embers be drawn up to the ridge cap, and no it would not get into your attic? Home applications are different than are barn applications. Even in the 1950s mountain cabins all had metal roofs so I don't know why your friend would tell you metal roofs are not fire proof, (they aren't), they are "Fire Resistant". Remember that comp shingles are impregnated with asphalt and while they are also fire resistant, they are not as fire resistant as steel. There are different applications you can get for ridge caps that would prevent embers from being blown up under that ridge cap. Do some more research and talk to companies which make metal roofing and learn the many methods of roof construction. By the way, did you ask your friend to explain what he/she meant by metal roofs not being safe. That bit about heat in the attic doesn't fly. What did they mean by not being Fire Safe? What were they trying to sell you. Yes steel is far more expensive than comp, but it is better than embers slide off the roof rather than the embers sitting on the comp shingle melting it. Hope that helps. If you have any more question feel free to reply and I'll get the message.
Metal roof is the way to go. What most people don't know is that metal roofs can be pressure washed, primed and painted down the road, and you have a brand new looking roof. A roof should last a lifetime. U.S. and Canada are the only countries that use disposable throw away asphalt comp roofs on a large scale.
Good vid but I don't understand why the screw fastener is installer in the pan rather than the ridge? Water runs downhill, putting the fastener hole where the water gathers and runs seems counter-intuitive? Your thoughts?
Peterodonnell: I was thinking exactly the same. Fixing in the valley is just asking for a leak path, it is saying "please make a leak here". A longer screw and a local packer/spacer piece is required to do a proper job and place the fasteners on the 'ridge'. If any designs call for fasteners in the valley, then they are simply shit designs from the get-go.
With all these problems of bad contractors,people should be making sure any serious amount of money spent would spend some time in escrow until verified that it was done properly. I can see this being the new normal in a few years as the "dumbing down" of our society increases.
@@GeorgeMcKinley. I guess I'm not a quality contractor then. But my clients seem to like my product. So much so that I am consistently a few months behind on work. If a client wanted to hold money in escrow it means they don't trust me and I'd rather work for people who know my reputation and trust me than those who expect problems.
@@doyola7 absolutely right my man! Less people want to do our physical jobs. Your workload will increase just like all other good contractors. You don't need to be waiting to get paid.
we have a 20 yr old metal roof. most of the butyl and closure strips have blown away. DIY, Do we take the cap off to do the replacement or cut and paste
So I'm just now getting more into metal roofing and I've ran into several problems that I'm trying to figure out one is the exhaust vent for the stove hood the vent that is sent will not seal to the metal we are using and no form or fashion it does not fall in between any valleys regardless of any measurements that we use also we have a chimney stack coming out of the roof which is I guess galvanized metal silver and I want to know if there's a boot to go over type of metal that we're using and the metal that we are using is 37 and 3/4 wide it is not standing seen it's the kind that's got the screws that show with the washers and I'm just trying to figure out do they make a flexible vent or do you actually have to come and build a say a square box that goes over the ridge and case it out and metal or curbing and then do that metal roofing is very complicated if you want it done right and these are two of the questions that I propose I believe the valley of the metal we're using cuz I can't remember offhand I just got off work is 7 in, is there a flexible vent that can be used for either one of those I mean even though the heater is gas is still getting some type of hot air coming through it yet the guys that installed the chimney which is just bare metal use silicone so it's getting exposed to heat to a certain degree so is there a plastic covering is there a flexible metal covering I mean there's a lot of stuff that I cannot find no videos that cover it
Everything requires maintenance, nothing lasts forever. Properly installed a metal roof rarely leaks with the exception of screw washers failing due to the fact the get hard, crack and deteriorate . Would you rather replace washers one screw at a time or a entire comp roof?
@@dhrtiwalter8670 If your looking for a new roof it's a complex question. Metal goes up fast and the easiest to install IF you research well. Metal can be a noise issue if installing directly on sheeting and the screw washers do crack and there hasn't been a real good solution unless you go the !re expensive route of hidden fasteners which s !ore appealing for a home. comp architectural shingles with at least a 20 year guarantee are my choice when it comes to financial hang for the nuck. Understand when it's stated how long a product lasts it doesn't include hurricanes, tornadoes, hail storms and any warrantee usually requires installation by a licensed contractor not the private home owner. Shingles require more time and experience in my personal opinion as I catch people making mistakes. A air nailer speed up shingle roofing which I won't do one without it. Research is a good idea and maybe watching a experienced roofer who won't mind a few questions. Don't stand there doing nothing, hand him shingles or line them up for him. Googlers are annoying as well as kids running around on a job site and labor people can be a little short tempered with both. If I was still a contractor It would be written into a contract not to have the home owner on the build site unless workers are gone for the day as believe it or not people are devious and look to get out of paying and sue for any reason they can make up. Retired, I may help someone I know but hate dealing with people today. It's a crazy world anymore.
P.S. .. If it's a cabin , out building or you don't care about having screw heads exposed and want gadt coverage due to winter coming fast , metal is not a bad tion.
Geez, if I had seen this before we got our metal roof we would have never gotten it. Find a reputable builder/roofer and check them out very thoroughly. Once they tell you which company's metal they use for metal roofing, check out that company then call them and find out how they feel about your local roofing company. A metal roof is expensive, but it it is done right you only have to put it on once. We love our metal roof. It is worth pursuing.
Just had Hy Grade Roofing install a metal roof at my house. Worst decision I could have made. They promised to install the roof in 4-6 weeks, of course they were late. When they finally showed up without the proper equipment and damaged my property. They are really proud of the “Quality Audit” that they do, but of course they won’t give you a copy of the audit…lol BTW -the “Quality Audit” they did at my house consisted of 2 guys coming over to pickup the leftover junk they left at my house for a month. They never even went up on the roof! Save your money use someone else!
Oil canning is caused by metal panels with no striations expanding and contracting in temperature change…no way around it…it’s an outcome the client needs to be made aware of and basically a waiver needed to be signed for company protection…it’s a visual issue but not a waterproofing issue…something a client should be made aware of…Other than that installer work ethic and experience determines all results …just like any other trade. Ricardo with BlackGold Roofing ..Beullton CA..
We just got standing seam nail strip roof installed and man it makes a lot of popping sounds. It's 40° outside and when the sun comes out it immediately starts making a popping/thud sound. This was put on a one-room cabin with a shed-shaped design. There is no attic space. The roof is black. The panels are about 22 ft long. I was hoping to find some content regarding thermal expansion sounds on a metal roof. Do you have a video on that? And how to problem solve/fix it.
Anyone have any idea how I can treat the rust that is happening bellow my wood burning chimney. I figure I need to coat it with some kind of non flammable paint like Rust-Oleum or similar product. I appreciate anyone with any ideas. Thank you.
Depends on the contractors. If you want attention to detail go with a younger guy who knows what he's doing. I'm a contractor and have worked with many older guys over the years. They know what should be done but they cut corners bc they have done it so long. Personally I'm a stickler for neatness and attention to detail. It takes longer but they are the things that are the most important imo.
Was a contractor for 32 years and I’m with you. Made most of my money being the second guy. I now have nerve damage in my spine and brain, rheumatoid arthritis, and other things wrong with my back. I still want hire a contractor to work on my house. It may take me longer, a lot longer, but I’ll do it myself.
***PLEASE HELP!!!! Hey man, I watch a lot of your videos and really appreciate them. I just bought a house with a metal roof that resembles Spanish tile. I’m confident there's enough airflow under the roof, but I’m unsure if the soffit and gable vents are sufficient to cool the attic. The contractor installed pink fiberglass insulation (not spray foam) between the attic and roof, using staggered wavy plastic pieces between the attic beams with insulation laid on top. I’m not sure if there's enough ventilation behind it. He also raised part of the ceiling in the dining, kitchen, and living room, leaving a smaller attic space there. Is this a problem? I’m under contract and can still have him remove it. I was thinking of adding a fan for better airflow, but after watching your videos, I’m concerned. My home inspector mentioned the insulation shouldn't be there, but your metal roof videos suggest insulation is okay if not better. I know you use spray foam, and this is fiberglass, but I don't want to make a big mistake in our first home. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks! Also I'm in New Jersey if that helps and I'm open to anyone else in the comments opinions thanks very much
if I were to pay triple the cost of regular asphalt, I wouldnt want to have to inspect my roof every year or every second year. What are the areas I should keep an eye on and/or why would I do that?
Thanks for this info! I’m considering buying a home in the Sierra Foothills in California. The area around the house has a very large cleared fire safety zone…and the 5 acres of forest have the understory very cleared….but…as we know…fires are going nuts in Calif. My friend who works for a home building company up there said metal roofs are not fire safe. The heat and embers are drawn up the ridges and get held in the attic making your house like a fireplace. What do you think as far as fire safety? These fires have been burning everything….melting metal and solar panels etc. Even if the fire itself doesn’t reach the house…the heat from the trees around the property and embers blowing could ignite in the attic. So I don’t think the metal roof really helps and maybe it’s actually bad. My friend says comp shingles are much better. Any opinion/advice?
I'm buying a home and trying to do some research on what I can do to prevent damage to the home I am buying. The seller had installed a metal roof but it's attached to the rafters. There is nothing to protect from any kind of damage brought by the weather. I don't know if I need to have this roof torn down and new one put up or if there is anything I can do that won't cost a fortune.
If you have a metal roof or have one installed on your home consider having it sprayed with rino bed liner for a much better durable and weather resistant roof
There is a clear plastic wrapping over my metal roof that is being installed causing it to be a different color than I expected, will this be removed after the installation is finished?
Curious if Galvalume is better for rusting why does galvanized have a 15 year edge rust warranty in Galvalume offers nothing. Just wondering I see roofs 50+ years old and they are galvanized and not resting but I see galvalume that is five years old and rusty
@@daniluchison surprisingly here in New York, which I know doesn't get as cold as Minnesota, the rubber washers are still intact 30 years later on a shed roof.That's in spite of the fact that my dad installed them completely askew.
Metal roofs aren't for everyone, but the same goes for asphalt shingles. No system is perfect, but the key is finding what works for your budget and preferences. Let me know if you have any questions! -Thad
It is possible! There are plenty of factors involved including condition of the metal and type of paint system. Check out this video to learn more: bit.ly/repainting-metal-roof-video Thanks for the comment! -Thad
The main cause of”oil-canning”, is from using too thin metal. Temperature causes the thinner metals to contact or expand ! Why did you not mention that issue ??
Temperatures cause ALL metal to expand and contract, it doesn't matter how thick or thin, and all metal will oil can (look at a ship's hull if your not convinced) yes the thicker it is the larger surface area needed for oil canning to occur, but even 22 gauge is perfectly capable of oil can in an area the size of a roof panel so while thicker is definitely recommended, the controls the video mentions are more effective than simply thinking thicker will fix all other failures.
What about large tree scratching? The trees have been cut down but the limbs left huge scratches. Is there a way to paint those panels to match the rest of the roof?
Read through the comments...most often they are galvanized prior to painting. If the scratches are deep enough then some touch-up would likely be in order.
Biggest problem I see installing is sheets are stacked you have to be very careful taking one piece off the stack because if it drug off scratches tend to show up
We just bought our home. Passed inspection. Inspector had a tester to test dampness in the attic. Which was negative. Now we have a roof leak around the chimney. Looks existing and the previous caulking and flashing is bad. We've had an estimate for a complete replace for $16k. Roofing company says the metal roof was installed poorly previously. So we're facing a metal roof needing replaced. Is this common? Is that the right price range? We're thinking of replacing our roof with a shingle roof. The cost of a new metal is not something we want to do. Any advice?
I lived in a house with a steel roof that was installed in 1917. We had it painted every now and then, it is steel going strong. The panels are alot thicker than what you get today. To prevent icing I painted about a three foot strip by the drip edge if flat black oaint. Even absorbed solar energy on a cloudy day. Why don't home builder use lighting protection?
Getting to the installer... If you have predominate winds from any direction, if possible, start the sheet installation from the opposite end so the wind will blow over the seams and not constantly hitting a seam that over time will start lifting, getting loose, and could eventually blow off. I told my installer, with many years experience, to instally mine that way. He said he never thought of it, but would start doing all installations that way.
so the customer pays a fortune for work, and then is supposed to get up on the roof every season to check if the roofers did the job they were paid for, this is some shit!
Hello! There are several causes of oil canning. You can check out a more in-depth video about that specific topic here: bit.ly/what-is-oil-canning-video Thanks for the comment! -Thad
Although oil canning is directly related to improper installation the most common causes are an inadequate plain whereas the mounting clips are not in a direct line in relation to each other.The line plain must be consistent in rise in relation to the pitch of the roof as well as not have a drastic dip in elevation as well as some installations are causing a stretched panel also causing oil canning. To alleviate the issue during installation the manufacturer can provide clips that float,generally these are a two piece clip with a rivet connection allowing the panel to hold a consistent plain. The second issue can be remedied by making a jig that holds the panel at its maximum width during clip installation preventing panel stretching.Doing so would alleviate 90% of the oil canning in the majority of installs.
Great video, regarding installation do you recommend drilling pilot holes with 5/32 bit to allow for expansion and contraction? Possibly prevent oil-canning?
Great information. I would wager that installation error is probably the majority of what you see. I often see metal roofs that were applied by crews that didn't know what they were doing.
That's why we consider education to be such an important part of the industry. A home or building owner can pick up important information to help choose the right contractor and understand the metal roofing process, and installers can continue to learn and improve to offer the best service possible. Everyone wins! Thanks for the comment, Matthew! -Thad
This is what the Director at the Canadian Roofing Association has to say about Hy-Grade (CRCA): "I will say that I have researched this company - Hy-Grade Roofing - and did not take me long to find several complaints and bad reviews with the BBB (Better Business Bureau). These types of complaints would have been enough for me to pass on this contractor. I see many issues and complaints related to the many ‘Metal Roofing Companies’ who promise the world to the customer, then don’t follow through when it’s time to enforce the warranty or get issues rectified..." Not even the CRCA would use you as a contractor. I invite all potential customer to contact the CRCA before signing with Hy-grade!
This video Seems to me as nothing but a futile attempt from conventional Roofers trying to keep their trade and profits growing, their focus is primarily on bad install practices not so much on the superior product! Thanks to this transparent video I’m going with a metal roof. Good job guys.
Hey Frank, our goal with this video is to show the common problems that can occur with metal roofing. No system is perfect, and we believe that everyone has the right to know what could happen if a problem does pop up. If there's something different you'd like us to cover, let us know! Thanks! -Thad
Very purposely limited in educational value. It would have been useful to give an example of what the manufacturer recommends when you ask them what to do with a scratch beginning to show corrosion. What have you done that worked in the past. Instead nothing.
They said scratched or damaged paint should be touched up with manufacturers paint or it may corrode the metal. They showed pics of the rusty/corroded consequences. What is hard to understand?
Sort of helpful. Didn't go in any detail about what to do when a gavalume product is scratched. His response" Get in contact with the manufacturer." Not acceptable. Just another generic sales pitch.
They have paint pens that match the color exactly to your roof. They are like fat sharpies you just cover your scratch with the paint pen, but they are not cheap, between 75-100$ for one pen.
Hello! If your roof slope is a 0.5/12 or greater, standing seam metal roofing will work well for your application. If you're considering an exposed fastener system, we recommend a slope greater than a 3/12 . Thanks for the question! -Thad
Hmm.. have you checked out the metal roof called InterLock? Alot of these issues I think are avoided using their custom metal roofing system. Plus they offer a lifetime warranty, can't beat that.
when you have shingles I see them here put wood strapping down over the shingles and then the roof .I have a carport and that is what a contractor told me here .1 x4 strapping
I was sold on a medal roof but more and more im thinking just getting traditional shingles. I dont want to wash my roof every year. Worry it getting scratched gouged n rusting like a car. Faded paint ect ect. Spending double the money n sounds like more screwing around. A gd shingle roof can get you 20yrs n no bs.
No roofing product is perfect, and there are pros and cons no matter which way you go. If you want a comparison specifically about shingle vs metal, you can check out our video here: bit.ly/metal-vs-shingle-roofing-video Thanks for the comment! -Thad
Except if you live in a climate that has snow you will get ice damming and water flowing right into your home every year with shingles trust me I'm facing the disappointment of shingles right now
@@soullessone4681 yeah but anything under a four pitch has to be double felted or ice and shield should be laid down all long the edge of the roof most people don't realize that your drip edge should be laid on before your felt I no a lot of roofers that cut corners on felting I don't on felt on shingles I can put a five inch pattern on them and save on cost there but I refuse to on felt and proper preping is the key I can use Staples for felt and save there but on a step one I use button tabs
Why not make a Hex head cap that goes over the fasteners. To keep the UV rays off them directly while also helping protect the screw head. If only I was rich enough to invent it.
Simple solution to all of the problems of metal roofs: Choose a quality company, to install a high quality architectural, asphalt laminate shingle roof. Much more cost effective, and getting it serviced (if needed) is much easier and cheaper down the road.
Our goal is promoting facts and education, Alan! No system is perfect, but don't worry, we'll most likely do a video about common problems with shingle roofs too. Thanks! -Thad
why are metal roof installers here putting metal roof over the old shingle roof and then the shingle roof melts under and I have seen the tar dripping down over the trim boards and it looks ugly .I also saw a neighbors metal roof fail because the rubber type washer started to degrade and the screw started to work a bigger hole in the roof panel and finally in a wind we had here rip loose
Hello! We have a video about putting metal roof over a shingle roof which you can check out here: bit.ly/metal-over-shingle-video Thanks for sharing those examples! -Thad
Michael Walter enough to be running out from underneath of a metal roof like water? I doubt it. And as far as your comment on shingles scratching the underside of metal you should always strap it up for an air gap underneath anyways. Thus the scratching is no concern. The only reason you need to remove shingles is the exact reason you say a contractor will put it over shingles, to get your money. It hurts nothing of it’s strapped and you don’t pay for removal
Michael Walter you could look to see how many layers it is and the condition of the roof deck is typically pretty evident as well. I’m not saying that going over shingles is by any means a better practice but executed well it shouldn’t fail any sooner than a roof that was stripped before the metal. If you are worried about ice dams strip the first 2-3 feet and put an ice and water shield on it. But you don’t have to strip it to do that
When steel companies create videos like this I always think they just want to position themselves to sell more material. Some good information though guys!
If you're thinking about buying a metal roof and want to understand the process from start to finish including the 7 problems talked about in this video, comparisons of roofing materials, cost, and more, download your FREE Metal Roofing Buyer's Guide EBook using the link below. Take it from me, it's the most comprehensive buyer's guide for metal roofing out there. Never stop learning!
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What I'm looking for is a 22 or 24 gage standing seam flat panel white metal roof with 2 inches of closed cell foam on the back. Unfortunately, everything I find is 26 or 29 gage, and has a second metal skin on the inside. I want the foam backing to eliminate thermal bridging, then spray an additional layer of foam on the inside to tie everything together. Do you have any suggestions?
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what do i for interior? is it possible to attach dry way to the interior? what about rain sounds. LOUD. also im my opinion ts ugly on the inside how do i make it less ugly?
@@jdm1066 I've seen 24 gauge
0:36 still waiting to hear dave's definition or oil-canning, but not holding out any hope.
Had a metal roof put on my roof last year. I had the Amish put it on and if you know anything about these people, they are the most meticulous with what they do than any contractor I have ever worked with and could not be happier with the end result!
My experience: First, I over tightened the screws. This squashes the grommet and in a very short time it will become cracked and it will leak water.
Second, in an effort to not over tighten the screws I actually didn't screw them in far enough. The result was an inadequate seal between the roof and the washer. This will cause a leak.
What seems to work for me is to tighten the screw all the way until I see the grommet start to squish so that I know everything is tight and then I back the screw out slightly until the grommet isn't bulging out.
So I think that over tightening or undertaking screws can be a big deal.
I'm inclined to say that Galvalume hides the corrosion underneath the paint. There are hints of bulging around the scratch, at 6:03.
I had metal roof for 30 years it is best I ever had, I never worried if snow would pile up, it will just go off my roof easily and a great fire prevent. I would recommend metal roof to everyone. especially for rural dwellers.
It is already starting to rust and u cant patch it
The fire protection is actually a misconception. Metal roofs transfer heat better, which means that the wood beneath the roof is more likely to catch fire with a metal roof
@@davinhart8374checkout any video about New Zealand. I believe 90% of there roofs are metal roofing
The oil-canning rippling you show if caused by running it through the mill and the crimped edge is being stretch. One way to not have that ripple affect is to purchase metal roofing which has a shallow rib down the center of the sheet. FYI, I used to run a small Steel roofing plant in Oregon. We ran out steel roofing such as you're showing and if I remember correctly, all colored metal roofing is galvanized then painted. Simple scratches are not to be worried about, it is the deep gouges where the scrape goes through the galvanization to the steel underneath, which then would be a problem. I also used to install that roofing on homes and out-buildings, such as barns. Remember though my friends that when running the sheet steel through the former it is sheared to length. Where it is sheared the steel will be exposed to the elements, and will rust eventually but only on the eve end of the sheet as the ridge end of the sheet will be covered with the ridge cap.
Your discussion on "Dissimilar Metals" is a good one. What happens is called Electrolysis when two dissimilar metals come in contact. I am not sure about Galvalume though. It usually happens when an aluminum roofing is screwed down with steel screws, or visa versa. Chalking is because of cheap paint and if it happens within five years I would be talking to a lawyer, because painted roofing should last 20 years easily. Remember though my friends all paint exposed to the sun will fade eventually, but the chalking shown in the video is bad paint. Also, if you live in area where Acid Rain happens it will hasten the chalking and corrosion.
If you are considering putting on steel roofing make sure your installer is bonded and insured with guarantees on the installation. Another problem not mentioned is that steel roofing sweats, so moisture barriers must be installed underneath to keep the accumulated condensation from dripping into the attic. Some installers staple insulation batting between the rafters so the warmth from the house does not reach the steel. Some go so far as to screw down 1 &1/2" to 2" stiff insulation that the metal is then adhered to.
What do you think about the foil faced bubble wrap ive seen applied over old shingles and under the new metal roofing?
@Toob247 Toob247 thanks
Thank you rumple! Now get it there and make some RUclips videos for us all!
Thanks for this info! I’m considering buying a home in the Sierra Foothills in California. The area around the house has a very large cleared fire safety zone…and the 5 acres of forest have the understory very cleared….but…as we know…fires are going nuts in Calif. My friend who works for a home building company up there said metal roofs are not fire safe. The heat and embers are drawn up the ridges and get held in the attic making your house like a fireplace. What do you think as far as fire safety? These fires have been burning everything….melting metal and solar panels etc. Even if the fire itself doesn’t reach the house…the heat from the trees around the property and embers blowing could ignite in the attic. So I don’t think the metal roof really helps and maybe it’s actually bad. My friend says comp shingles are much better. Any opinion/advice?
@@moonbeammagic7499 Yes I do. Anyone trying to sell you on Comp shingles on a mountain home with trees within 15 yards of your home is trying to sell you a bill of goods. Don't buy it ! You can order different types of metal roofing styles and in different gauges (thickness) as well. The thicker the metal the better chance you have of keeping embers from over heating the metal. If you truly want a fireproof roof, then I would go with shaped concrete tiles as long as you would not be in a heavy snow zone. Because those tiles will amount to a heavier roof, the whole roof structure must be enhanced. With that in mind a light snow once in a while that melts fairly quickly would be no problem. If it is wet snow that would be the problem because wet snow can get really really heave fairly quickly at about 7 lbs per gallon.
Why would embers be drawn up to the ridge cap, and no it would not get into your attic? Home applications are different than are barn applications. Even in the 1950s mountain cabins all had metal roofs so I don't know why your friend would tell you metal roofs are not fire proof, (they aren't), they are "Fire Resistant". Remember that comp shingles are impregnated with asphalt and while they are also fire resistant, they are not as fire resistant as steel. There are different applications you can get for ridge caps that would prevent embers from being blown up under that ridge cap. Do some more research and talk to companies which make metal roofing and learn the many methods of roof construction. By the way, did you ask your friend to explain what he/she meant by metal roofs not being safe. That bit about heat in the attic doesn't fly. What did they mean by not being Fire Safe? What were they trying to sell you. Yes steel is far more expensive than comp, but it is better than embers slide off the roof rather than the embers sitting on the comp shingle melting it. Hope that helps. If you have any more question feel free to reply and I'll get the message.
Metal roof is the way to go. What most people don't know is that metal roofs can be pressure washed, primed and painted down the road, and you have a brand new looking roof.
A roof should last a lifetime. U.S. and Canada are the only countries that use disposable throw away asphalt comp roofs on a large scale.
@SkyNet General There's a lot of RUclips videos on pressure washing and repainting metal roofs.
@SkyNet General Tile and metal are good....whatever you do, do not go with a disposable asphalt comp roof.
good luck.
Does metal roofing compromise cell reception?
Yes it does. I use a cell phone signal booster, it almost brings the signal back to normal.
Good vid but I don't understand why the screw fastener is installer in the pan rather than the ridge? Water runs downhill, putting the fastener hole where the water gathers and runs seems counter-intuitive? Your thoughts?
That is dependent on the manufacturer's recommendations and the panel that is being installed. Some panels require different screw placement. -Thad
Peterodonnell: I was thinking exactly the same. Fixing in the valley is just asking for a leak path, it is saying "please make a leak here". A longer screw and a local packer/spacer piece is required to do a proper job and place the fasteners on the 'ridge'.
If any designs call for fasteners in the valley, then they are simply shit designs from the get-go.
Boy, watching this video really instilled a ton of confidence in me about a metal roof 😬😕. Forget about hail.
With all these problems of bad contractors,people should be making sure any serious amount of money spent would spend some time in escrow until verified that it was done properly. I can see this being the new normal in a few years as the "dumbing down" of our society increases.
Honestly I don't think most quality contractors want the hassle. Most of us are buried in work as is.
@@doyola7 if the contractor is truly a quality contractor they would not be concerned with doing business as described by Mrdubomb.
@@GeorgeMcKinley. I guess I'm not a quality contractor then. But my clients seem to like my product. So much so that I am consistently a few months behind on work. If a client wanted to hold money in escrow it means they don't trust me and I'd rather work for people who know my reputation and trust me than those who expect problems.
@@doyola7 just out of curiosity what time zone are you in. P.s. I’m on est.
@@doyola7 absolutely right my man! Less people want to do our physical jobs. Your workload will increase just like all other good contractors. You don't need to be waiting to get paid.
we have a 20 yr old metal roof.
most of the butyl and closure strips have blown away.
DIY, Do we take the cap off to do the replacement or cut and paste
So I'm just now getting more into metal roofing and I've ran into several problems that I'm trying to figure out one is the exhaust vent for the stove hood the vent that is sent will not seal to the metal we are using and no form or fashion it does not fall in between any valleys regardless of any measurements that we use also we have a chimney stack coming out of the roof which is I guess galvanized metal silver and I want to know if there's a boot to go over type of metal that we're using and the metal that we are using is 37 and 3/4 wide it is not standing seen it's the kind that's got the screws that show with the washers and I'm just trying to figure out do they make a flexible vent or do you actually have to come and build a say a square box that goes over the ridge and case it out and metal or curbing and then do that metal roofing is very complicated if you want it done right and these are two of the questions that I propose I believe the valley of the metal we're using cuz I can't remember offhand I just got off work is 7 in, is there a flexible vent that can be used for either one of those I mean even though the heater is gas is still getting some type of hot air coming through it yet the guys that installed the chimney which is just bare metal use silicone so it's getting exposed to heat to a certain degree so is there a plastic covering is there a flexible metal covering I mean there's a lot of stuff that I cannot find no videos that cover it
Everything requires maintenance, nothing lasts forever. Properly installed a metal roof rarely leaks with the exception of screw washers failing due to the fact the get hard, crack and deteriorate . Would you rather replace washers one screw at a time or a entire comp roof?
@@dhrtiwalter8670 If your looking for a new roof it's a complex question. Metal goes up fast and the easiest to install IF you research well. Metal can be a noise issue if installing directly on sheeting and the screw washers do crack and there hasn't been a real good solution unless you go the !re expensive route of hidden fasteners which s !ore appealing for a home. comp architectural shingles with at least a 20 year guarantee are my choice when it comes to financial hang for the nuck. Understand when it's stated how long a product lasts it doesn't include hurricanes, tornadoes, hail storms and any warrantee usually requires installation by a licensed contractor not the private home owner. Shingles require more time and experience in my personal opinion as I catch people making mistakes. A air nailer speed up shingle roofing which I won't do one without it. Research is a good idea and maybe watching a experienced roofer who won't mind a few questions. Don't stand there doing nothing, hand him shingles or line them up for him. Googlers are annoying as well as kids running around on a job site and labor people can be a little short tempered with both. If I was still a contractor It would be written into a contract not to have the home owner on the build site unless workers are gone for the day as believe it or not people are devious and look to get out of paying and sue for any reason they can make up. Retired, I may help someone I know but hate dealing with people today. It's a crazy world anymore.
P.S. .. If it's a cabin , out building or you don't care about having screw heads exposed and want gadt coverage due to winter coming fast , metal is not a bad tion.
Geez, if I had seen this before we got our metal roof we would have never gotten it. Find a reputable builder/roofer and check them out very thoroughly. Once they tell you which company's metal they use for metal roofing, check out that company then call them and find out how they feel about your local roofing company. A metal roof is expensive, but it it is done right you only have to put it on once. We love our metal roof. It is worth pursuing.
Just had Hy Grade Roofing install a metal roof at my house. Worst decision I could have made. They promised to install the roof in 4-6 weeks, of course they were late. When they finally showed up without the proper equipment and damaged my property. They are really proud of the “Quality Audit” that they do, but of course they won’t give you a copy of the audit…lol BTW -the “Quality Audit” they did at my house consisted of 2 guys coming over to pickup the leftover junk they left at my house for a month. They never even went up on the roof! Save your money use someone else!
expansion and contraction caused oil canning is an installation failure and can lead to major issues down the road after it continues for some time...
0:36 still waiting to hear dave's definition or oil-canning, but not holding out any hope.
I live in south Florida near to Miami which roofing product has the best hurricane wind rating ?
Oil canning is caused by metal panels with no striations expanding and contracting in temperature change…no way around it…it’s an outcome the client needs to be made aware of and basically a waiver needed to be signed for company protection…it’s a visual issue but not a waterproofing issue…something a client should be made aware of…Other than that installer work ethic and experience determines all results …just like any other trade.
Ricardo with BlackGold Roofing ..Beullton CA..
Very interesting. Thank you for this video.
We just got standing seam nail strip roof installed and man it makes a lot of popping sounds. It's 40° outside and when the sun comes out it immediately starts making a popping/thud sound. This was put on a one-room cabin with a shed-shaped design. There is no attic space. The roof is black. The panels are about 22 ft long. I was hoping to find some content regarding thermal expansion sounds on a metal roof. Do you have a video on that? And how to problem solve/fix it.
sounds like my aluminum siding..morning and evening.
painting it white will decrease the noise.
What is oil canning pls explain?.
Anyone have any idea how I can treat the rust that is happening bellow my wood burning chimney. I figure I need to coat it with some kind of non flammable paint like Rust-Oleum or similar product.
I appreciate anyone with any ideas. Thank you.
Contractors today cut too many corners and I would not trust them to install an expensive specialty roofing product.
Depends on the contractors. If you want attention to detail go with a younger guy who knows what he's doing. I'm a contractor and have worked with many older guys over the years. They know what should be done but they cut corners bc they have done it so long. Personally I'm a stickler for neatness and attention to detail. It takes longer but they are the things that are the most important imo.
@@mr.eastcoastgrow6132 ✌🏻
Was a contractor for 32 years and I’m with you. Made most of my money being the second guy. I now have nerve damage in my spine and brain, rheumatoid arthritis, and other things wrong with my back. I still want hire a contractor to work on my house. It may take me longer, a lot longer, but I’ll do it myself.
@@texfarm1968 🙏🏼👍
***PLEASE HELP!!!!
Hey man, I watch a lot of your videos and really appreciate them. I just bought a house with a metal roof that resembles Spanish tile. I’m confident there's enough airflow under the roof, but I’m unsure if the soffit and gable vents are sufficient to cool the attic.
The contractor installed pink fiberglass insulation (not spray foam) between the attic and roof, using staggered wavy plastic pieces between the attic beams with insulation laid on top. I’m not sure if there's enough ventilation behind it. He also raised part of the ceiling in the dining, kitchen, and living room, leaving a smaller attic space there.
Is this a problem? I’m under contract and can still have him remove it. I was thinking of adding a fan for better airflow, but after watching your videos, I’m concerned. My home inspector mentioned the insulation shouldn't be there, but your metal roof videos suggest insulation is okay if not better. I know you use spray foam, and this is fiberglass, but I don't want to make a big mistake in our first home. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!
Also I'm in New Jersey if that helps and I'm open to anyone else in the comments opinions thanks very much
if I were to pay triple the cost of regular asphalt, I wouldnt want to have to inspect my roof every year or every second year. What are the areas I should keep an eye on and/or why would I do that?
well dont get a metal roof, this guy just said to go and check the whole roof for shitty workmanship every season
@@living2day617 the metal WILLL RUST and its HARD to make repairs
Seen galvalume with a few panels brown with rust, while sections are fine.. why ? Bad galvalume batches?
Thanks for this info! I’m considering buying a home in the Sierra Foothills in California. The area around the house has a very large cleared fire safety zone…and the 5 acres of forest have the understory very cleared….but…as we know…fires are going nuts in Calif. My friend who works for a home building company up there said metal roofs are not fire safe. The heat and embers are drawn up the ridges and get held in the attic making your house like a fireplace. What do you think as far as fire safety? These fires have been burning everything….melting metal and solar panels etc. Even if the fire itself doesn’t reach the house…the heat from the trees around the property and embers blowing could ignite in the attic. So I don’t think the metal roof really helps and maybe it’s actually bad. My friend says comp shingles are much better. Any opinion/advice?
I'm buying a home and trying to do some research on what I can do to prevent damage to the home I am buying. The seller had installed a metal roof but it's attached to the rafters. There is nothing to protect from any kind of damage brought by the weather. I don't know if I need to have this roof torn down and new one put up or if there is anything I can do that won't cost a fortune.
I have matal roof but it liking water rains time. How to pixie it please solution me.
Is 25 gauge galvalume thick enough that oil canning is not an issue? 29 gauge?
How much should one take of for each dented panel?
If I pay all that money for a metal room, I don’t wanna see any flaws
If you have a metal roof or have one installed on your home consider having it sprayed with rino bed liner for a much better durable and weather resistant roof
Worst advise ever, just sayn
@@MontanaWelldigger why is that
@@MontanaWelldigger I guess you can say why that's bad advice
I'd love to see a How to Fix Leaks in Metal Roof video from you.
Thanks for the suggestion, Wesley! -Thad
Flex seal!
So basically stick to a non painted specific steel wavey pattern and I only have to worry about rust or a bad install.
And your roof will be a great conductor for emf.electricity,dew etc.These are not good at all.
the fasteners should be on the top of the ridges, no?
you do not have to go away from flat standing seem panels to prevent oil canning. you simply use backer rod underneath the middle of the panel.
Not necessarily. Backer rod helps but doesnt stop oil canning completely.
There is a clear plastic wrapping over my metal roof that is being installed causing it to be a different color than I expected, will this be removed after the installation is finished?
Yes, the PVC wrapping should be removed. It is there to protect the material during installation. -Thad
Curious if Galvalume is better for rusting why does galvanized have a 15 year edge rust warranty in Galvalume offers nothing. Just wondering I see roofs 50+ years old and they are galvanized and not resting but I see galvalume that is five years old and rusty
Please answer this question I just put a metal roof on my mobile home but the ridge cap I used in painted gavalvanized roof cap . Was this a mistake.
Hello! What type of material was the rest of your metal system? -Thad
I would like to see any rubber washer last in the Arizona desert. The dry heat here bakes the rubber even if it's not in direct sunlight.
Same thing in the north, minus 20 minus 40 degrees in Minnesota will destroy any exposed rubber or plastic. No way it will last.
@@daniluchison Harsh weather variations (90F + to -25F every single year) and years of exposure is the best laboratory
@@daniluchison surprisingly here in New York, which I know doesn't get as cold as Minnesota, the rubber washers are still intact 30 years later on a shed roof.That's in spite of the fact that my dad installed them completely askew.
In Tennessee we see 35 year old exposed fastener leak free roofs but concealed is of course better.
Contractor for 45 yrs, I'd never use a exposed fastener panel on residence.
Concealed fasteners installs avoid the corrosion and leak issues.
Was getting a metal roof,but now a asphalt roof after this video!
Metal roofs aren't for everyone, but the same goes for asphalt shingles. No system is perfect, but the key is finding what works for your budget and preferences. Let me know if you have any questions! -Thad
You can have a bad install with asphalt shingles as well. Both roofs depend on the install.
Is it possible to repaint a metal roof?
It is possible! There are plenty of factors involved including condition of the metal and type of paint system. Check out this video to learn more: bit.ly/repainting-metal-roof-video Thanks for the comment! -Thad
The main cause of”oil-canning”, is from using too thin metal. Temperature causes the thinner metals to contact or expand ! Why did you not mention that issue ??
Because most people get the thinner metal for budget reasons, if they advertised that aspect it could hur the majority of their business.
Temperatures cause ALL metal to expand and contract, it doesn't matter how thick or thin, and all metal will oil can (look at a ship's hull if your not convinced) yes the thicker it is the larger surface area needed for oil canning to occur, but even 22 gauge is perfectly capable of oil can in an area the size of a roof panel so while thicker is definitely recommended, the controls the video mentions are more effective than simply thinking thicker will fix all other failures.
What about large tree scratching? The trees have been cut down but the limbs left huge scratches. Is there a way to paint those panels to match the rest of the roof?
Read through the comments...most often they are galvanized prior to painting. If the scratches are deep enough then some touch-up would likely be in order.
3:20 overdrive fasteners? Great video, thanks
I am a new roofing contractor here in Florida how can I get trained by you guys on installing metal roofing
I would look for other options for training.
Biggest problem I see installing is sheets are stacked you have to be very careful taking one piece off the stack because if it drug off scratches tend to show up
We just bought our home. Passed inspection. Inspector had a tester to test dampness in the attic. Which was negative. Now we have a roof leak around the chimney. Looks existing and the previous caulking and flashing is bad. We've had an estimate for a complete replace for $16k. Roofing company says the metal roof was installed poorly previously. So we're facing a metal roof needing replaced. Is this common? Is that the right price range? We're thinking of replacing our roof with a shingle roof. The cost of a new metal is not something we want to do. Any advice?
Not when you have a machine and make them at the site,lol
I lived in a house with a steel roof that was installed in 1917. We had it painted every now and then, it is steel going strong. The panels are alot thicker than what you get today. To prevent icing I painted about a three foot strip by the drip edge if flat black oaint. Even absorbed solar energy on a cloudy day.
Why don't home builder use lighting protection?
Getting to the installer... If you have predominate winds from any direction, if possible, start the sheet installation from the opposite end so the wind will blow over the seams and
not constantly hitting a seam that over time will start lifting, getting loose, and could eventually blow off. I told my installer, with many years experience, to instally mine that way.
He said he never thought of it, but would start doing all installations that way.
Make a video how to make a metal roof cone 🎉please 🙏🏻
What IS oil canning? flattening the panel??
Oil canning is perceived waviness in the flat section of the panel. You can learn more in this video: bit.ly/what-is-oil-canning-video
Thanks! -Thad
Oil canning is like the orange peal on the paint of an expensive luxury car - they all have it and hardly anyone cares unless you point it out :)
The moral of this story is the cheap come out expensive buy the top quality up front that way it last without potential quality issues. Thanks
so the customer pays a fortune for work, and then is supposed to get up on the roof every season to check if the roofers did the job they were paid for, this is some shit!
HAHA, exactly.
@Semper Fi Then you might as well get a 15 year shingle roof for the cost that this will incur, including corrections.
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Isnt oil canning caused when the clips are installed and the machine dimples where the fasteners are ?
Hello! There are several causes of oil canning. You can check out a more in-depth video about that specific topic here: bit.ly/what-is-oil-canning-video
Thanks for the comment! -Thad
Although oil canning is directly related to improper installation the most common causes are an inadequate plain whereas the mounting clips are not in a direct line in relation to each other.The line plain must be consistent in rise in relation to the pitch of the roof as well as not have a drastic dip in elevation as well as some installations are causing a stretched panel also causing oil canning. To alleviate the issue during installation the manufacturer can provide clips that float,generally these are a two piece clip with a rivet connection allowing the panel to hold a consistent plain. The second issue can be remedied by making a jig that holds the panel at its maximum width during clip installation preventing panel stretching.Doing so would alleviate 90% of the oil canning in the majority of installs.
Great tutorial! Subscribed!
Not so fast, for example, you need to explain the reason the paint faded or the metal corroded when the installer put copper next to galvanized steel.
Great video, regarding installation do you recommend drilling pilot holes with 5/32 bit to allow for expansion and contraction? Possibly prevent oil-canning?
no..use self tapping screws with gaskets.
Excellent!
Great information. I would wager that installation error is probably the majority of what you see. I often see metal roofs that were applied by crews that didn't know what they were doing.
That's why we consider education to be such an important part of the industry. A home or building owner can pick up important information to help choose the right contractor and understand the metal roofing process, and installers can continue to learn and improve to offer the best service possible. Everyone wins! Thanks for the comment, Matthew!
-Thad
crews sometimes hire day labor
Very Good!
thx
This is what the Director at the Canadian Roofing Association has to say about Hy-Grade (CRCA): "I will say that I have researched this company - Hy-Grade Roofing - and did not take me long to find several complaints and bad reviews with the BBB (Better Business Bureau). These types of complaints would have been enough for me to pass on this contractor. I see many issues and complaints related to the many ‘Metal Roofing Companies’ who promise the world to the customer, then don’t follow through when it’s time to enforce the warranty or get issues rectified..." Not even the CRCA would use you as a contractor. I invite all potential customer to contact the CRCA before signing with Hy-grade!
This video Seems to me as nothing but a futile attempt from conventional Roofers trying to keep their trade and profits growing, their focus is primarily on bad install practices not so much on the superior product! Thanks to this transparent video I’m going with a metal roof. Good job guys.
Hey Frank, our goal with this video is to show the common problems that can occur with metal roofing. No system is perfect, and we believe that everyone has the right to know what could happen if a problem does pop up. If there's something different you'd like us to cover, let us know! Thanks! -Thad
The oil canning is the metal distorting because it doesn’t have room to expand and contract. I hope you don’t teach. Painful.
This is the level of roof installation instruction :D (and hence the results)
Holy crap, 10:00 that is not a bad install, that is pure butchery, half ass'd would have been a massive improvement.
if I didn't scratch it why wouldn't installer fix the problem
There’s nothing I hate more than people installing stuff incorrectly!! If you don’t know how either learn how or don’t do it
@Thad Barnette is a total stud. I just clicked in this video because of him
Can a black metal roof be unventilated? Consequences?
They put a very thin coat of paint on that metal,that’s why it’s easily scratched.
Very purposely limited in educational value. It would have been useful to give an example of what the manufacturer recommends when you ask them what to do with a scratch beginning to show corrosion. What have you done that worked in the past. Instead nothing.
Agreed
They said scratched or damaged paint should be touched up with manufacturers paint or it may corrode the metal. They showed pics of the rusty/corroded consequences. What is hard to understand?
your oil canning lecture . confused me. why not say " thin metal panels tend to oil can if not installed right. "? thank you for the info.
Check out our oil canning video here to learn more: bit.ly/what-is-oil-canning-video
Thanks for the comment! -Thad
What about condensation over an RV Port?
Do ya think the guy in the brown shirt used to work for the gov'mint?
I hear him talking but he isn't saying much that is helpful.
I totally agree. His recommendations are vague.
He's veerry busy - making excuses for substandard materials and slipshod installations - don't waste another minute on this weak kneed drivel!
This shit is painful to watch
Sort of helpful. Didn't go in any detail about what to do when a gavalume product is scratched. His response" Get in contact with the manufacturer." Not acceptable. Just another generic sales pitch.
They have paint pens that match the color exactly to your roof. They are like fat sharpies you just cover your scratch with the paint pen, but they are not cheap, between 75-100$ for one pen.
Hi, I have a very gentle slope on my roof(4" in 12ft ), do the metal panels work for me? thanks
Hello! If your roof slope is a 0.5/12 or greater, standing seam metal roofing will work well for your application. If you're considering an exposed fastener system, we recommend a slope greater than a 3/12 . Thanks for the question! -Thad
Hmm.. have you checked out the metal roof called InterLock? Alot of these issues I think are avoided using their custom metal roofing system. Plus they offer a lifetime warranty, can't beat that.
when you have shingles I see them here put wood strapping down over the shingles and then the roof .I have a carport and that is what a contractor told me here .1 x4 strapping
I was sold on a medal roof but more and more im thinking just getting traditional shingles. I dont want to wash my roof every year. Worry it getting scratched gouged n rusting like a car. Faded paint ect ect. Spending double the money n sounds like more screwing around. A gd shingle roof can get you 20yrs n no bs.
No roofing product is perfect, and there are pros and cons no matter which way you go. If you want a comparison specifically about shingle vs metal, you can check out our video here: bit.ly/metal-vs-shingle-roofing-video
Thanks for the comment! -Thad
I've seen good quality roofing shingle get 30 to 40 years with proper ventilation and color matters to
Except if you live in a climate that has snow you will get ice damming and water flowing right into your home every year with shingles trust me I'm facing the disappointment of shingles right now
@@soullessone4681 yeah but anything under a four pitch has to be double felted or ice and shield should be laid down all long the edge of the roof most people don't realize that your drip edge should be laid on before your felt I no a lot of roofers that cut corners on felting I don't on felt on shingles I can put a five inch pattern on them and save on cost there but I refuse to on felt and proper preping is the key I can use Staples for felt and save there but on a step one I use button tabs
Check out ice & water shield... supposed to be under your shingles to prevent ice damming and leaking
The first "problem" if you are a metal roofing manufacturer you make a lot of money it is a very very profitable business.
Dave Stubbs is the man
Why not make a Hex head cap that goes over the fasteners. To keep the UV rays off them directly while also helping protect the screw head. If only I was rich enough to invent it.
That's genius
Corrosion is the nice name fro rust.
Great info guys 👍
You missed a critical one, how to properly do penetrations correctly.
Simple solution to all of the problems of metal roofs: Choose a quality company, to install a high quality architectural, asphalt laminate shingle roof. Much more cost effective, and getting it serviced (if needed) is much easier and cheaper down the road.
I will stick with traditional shingle.
I can't pay attention as I'm focused on the camera guy in the reflection. 🤣😄
installation errors cannot be controlled
Galvanic corrosion
My take away is these guys sell shingle roofs.
you might think that but the channel name is... The Metal Roofing Channel ... maybe they sell metal roofs but just don't like working much heh
Our goal is promoting facts and education, Alan! No system is perfect, but don't worry, we'll most likely do a video about common problems with shingle roofs too. Thanks! -Thad
“Sheffield Metals” doesn’t strike me as a company selling asphalt shingles...
If you really want to do a metal roof, do your research and ask the installers a lot of questions.
I’m still doing a metal roof!
Great to here that. Can I ask what type and profile did you settle on using?
why are metal roof installers here putting metal roof over the old shingle roof and then the shingle roof melts under and I have seen the tar dripping down over the trim boards and it looks ugly .I also saw a neighbors metal roof fail because the rubber type washer started to degrade and the screw started to work a bigger hole in the roof panel and finally in a wind we had here rip loose
Hello! We have a video about putting metal roof over a shingle roof which you can check out here: bit.ly/metal-over-shingle-video
Thanks for sharing those examples! -Thad
The shingles wouldn’t be melting. Some installation guides require use of butyl tape which gets soft in the sun and that’s probably what you see
Michael Walter enough to be running out from underneath of a metal roof like water? I doubt it. And as far as your comment on shingles scratching the underside of metal you should always strap it up for an air gap underneath anyways. Thus the scratching is no concern. The only reason you need to remove shingles is the exact reason you say a contractor will put it over shingles, to get your money. It hurts nothing of it’s strapped and you don’t pay for removal
Michael Walter you could look to see how many layers it is and the condition of the roof deck is typically pretty evident as well. I’m not saying that going over shingles is by any means a better practice but executed well it shouldn’t fail any sooner than a roof that was stripped before the metal. If you are worried about ice dams strip the first 2-3 feet and put an ice and water shield on it. But you don’t have to strip it to do that
So with metal roofs, the first problem is that they get dirty?
When steel companies create videos like this I always think they just want to position themselves to sell more material. Some good information though guys!
IMO mostly all these flaws stated were due to lack of care on the part of the installers.
My biggest problem with metal roofing is that there is no way at all in the universe to walk on it!