Return of Alien Boyfriend?? (Apostles of Mercy | Lindsay Ellis)

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  • @SalayaSkystone
    @SalayaSkystone 2 месяца назад +9

    1:30:00 Why does this feel like it's a smut book where Will is desperately trying to cling on to the plot and great worldbuilding sprinkles.

  • @Feejakka
    @Feejakka 2 месяца назад +2

    Listening to you guys is a vicarious experience …all those books I’ll never read, all your constructive thoughts about what works and doesn’t work, examples of how to write a better story...it gives me as much to chew on as it entertains me. (But I keep trying *not* to imagine you reading anything I’ve written! 😬) If only creativity was as easy as criticism. But hey, that’s not a complaint. Love your work 👌

  • @kaf8618
    @kaf8618 Месяц назад

    It's actually eerie how much your criticisms mirror the conversation my bff and I had on finishing this book..... but we too, will be awaiting book four XD

  • @racheltheradiant4675
    @racheltheradiant4675 2 месяца назад

    Ngl, hearing you guys talk about this book reminded me of your Cyborg Tinkerer review 😅

  • @spiderlegspinch9001
    @spiderlegspinch9001 2 месяца назад +1

    I stumbled across a RUclips video recently where the host was interviewing Lindsay Ellis about this book. I thought immediately that you guys should do a review. It was so strange seeing her o RUclips after all these years even if it wasn't on her own channel

  • @Sandreline
    @Sandreline 2 месяца назад +4

    The second book is actually my favorite in the series. I enjoy the way it subverts the first book and I found the explorations of trauma super interesting.
    But I wish that Kaveh had gotten more criticism for having a relationship with someone who was 15 years younger than him and incredibly mentally ill. There were ways to support Cora without having sex with her, and it was clear from the sex scenes that Cora was doing it out of a feeling of obligation. That never got addressed. I get the impression the Ellis really loves Kaveh as a character and is hesitant to sully his name.
    Then Paris shows up, and we don't get much time with her before they're together. We don't get to fall in love with Paris like we did with Kaveh. I thought being with Paris would help Cora work through how toxic her relationship with Kaveh and Ampersand are. But unfortunately they didn't get much time together on the page.
    I think Ampersand is getting Dune'd. You could have had a really good tragic ending, where Paris finally helps her parse out her toxicity with Ampersand. But then Cora uses high language with him to save Paris, and ends up indoctrinated to his authority. Then book 4 is Paris trying to rescue Cora from her abusive cult relationship.
    I liked how Cora told off Nils in the ending, but I hated how it further deified Kaveh.
    FWIW, I went to a book signing, and Ellis said her publisher told her the book needed to be quite a bit shorter than it originally was. This may just be some bad editing. 🤷
    And overall, I did really enjoy the book. I think human-alien relationships are portrayed well and with complexity. I liked the action and the tension. I mainly needed more from the human-human side.

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 2 месяца назад +2

      A good platonic relationship really would be refreshing too, while he supports her.
      And bring more up with him nikola cora ampersand. As friends it would be as legit and complicated.

    • @madelinemcmillan4020
      @madelinemcmillan4020 Месяц назад

      @@marocat4749 I think his death actually would have been more tragic if they had kept it at a friendship, at that point cora had literally no one to depend on among the humans with her best interest in mind who weren't trying to get anything from her. instead I was just creeped by his character taking advantage of someone whos not clearly not stable and vulnerable for sex, which lowered my opinion of his character.
      got to say they really made it up to be by the 3rd book because Paris is like the best character and I'm 100% there for the relationship. Sol's redemption was also pretty good, he was such in insufferable ass but I was agreeing with him about jevah lol

    • @carpevinum8645
      @carpevinum8645 18 часов назад

      Cutting room floor may explain a lot

  • @yiannis5972
    @yiannis5972 2 месяца назад +14

    its unfortunate because it feels like this series has been becoming slighty worse with each book. i hated the concept of sad sex apartment so having all those plotlines almost repeated for no reason feels ....unprodcutive.

  • @LilliLotus
    @LilliLotus 2 месяца назад +1

    I'll need to read this book first, then I'll be back to watch this ❤

  • @CrisM779
    @CrisM779 2 месяца назад +1

    This series is just not what I expected it to be. I thought this would be some alien/monster boyfriend slow-burn since that's what the first book started with. Now, we're three books in and I think I'd rather get the sci-fi version with all the alien politicking, please. Maybe the slow-burn was just too slow for me and I stopped to smell the flowers along the way and now I'm starting at the decor.

  • @runningcommentary2125
    @runningcommentary2125 2 месяца назад

    Mazandaran is a province in Iran. Quite a few Iranian surnames refer to the place your ancestors were from. Mazandarani sticks out to me because my Persian teacher was from Mazandaran.

  • @Guinev3re
    @Guinev3re 2 месяца назад

    It think Coras new love interest will be Paris’ sister, because Paris was also connected to Kaveh in a sort-of familial way and is introduced in the second book, but is the revealed to be a degradation of Kaveh in the third book. Paris’s sister is going to be even less of a character than Paris, but she will still eventually take the place of Paris

  • @hermstefanny
    @hermstefanny 2 месяца назад +3

    I will never stop being mad that Kaveh, the best character of this series, is dead. His relationship with Nikola is my favorite part of all 3 books. I will follow along this series as long Nikola is part of this, but i am still heartbroken

    • @hermstefanny
      @hermstefanny 2 месяца назад

      I need a fan fic where kaveh is alive and cybernetic

    • @Man-ej6uv
      @Man-ej6uv 28 дней назад

      i hated him lol

  • @marocat4749
    @marocat4749 2 месяца назад +2

    Kaveh and Cora could have just been good platonic friends and not have sex and close that early?

  • @Mxe00.
    @Mxe00. 2 месяца назад +1

    If you want to read a quality sci-fi book, I would suggest you to read Alien from Earth. It's awesome.

  • @pithygrapefruit
    @pithygrapefruit 2 месяца назад

    They look like Secretary Birds!

  • @SalayaSkystone
    @SalayaSkystone 2 месяца назад

    wait wait wait, authors don't get better? Like, because they are already doing well being published and thus have less of a need to or because they just... don't?

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 2 месяца назад

      Its probably that publisher let authors less cook and not grow or dont courage much?

  • @nadgamgee7767
    @nadgamgee7767 2 месяца назад

    Wait wait wait, the book put Chernobyl in Belarus?

    • @unresolvedtextualtension
      @unresolvedtextualtension  2 месяца назад

      Ah! It didn’t but our summary makes it sound like it did. After visiting Belarus for one reason, they got information that lead them to travel to Chernobyl. - Maria

    • @markhoulsby359
      @markhoulsby359 2 месяца назад

      ​@@unresolvedtextualtension*led. #IFIFY
      You're welcome.

  • @val-entine
    @val-entine 2 месяца назад

  • @TheAdarkerglow
    @TheAdarkerglow 2 месяца назад

    I really don't like the name Ampersand. And I get it, you could write it & and that's quirky. But it's a mouthful and it's not a pretty word.