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ProRes is awesome for creators and video production companies. All that pros goodness comes at a cost. It would help if you bought a NAS .
Ken, I love this vid. Very clear and concise. No fluff, but done very professionally
Very well done man! 🤛🏻
Great professional advice. Thank you Dobo!
Good video and quite refreshing to listen to a man's man articulate. FWIW, one slightly overlooked item is that the smart controller is incuded in the Cine version for the xtra $2K and not included in the lesser two packages. I'm going to pickup the Cine just so I can play around with 422 in Premiere Pro. Up til now I have only worked with 264.
Thanks for this video, very informative on storage space aspect. Something that I’m now struggling with when I got a fast firing high res mirrorless camera this year. I would not want to be scrubbing thru terabytes of video data just to post few travel highlight videos on FB.
I enjoy all of your videos! Thanks. Can’t wait to see the Mavic 3 review.
Clearly explained. Thanks for taking the time.
Completely agree Ken. In fact, unless the Mavic 3 has some really awesome feature that I must have, I'm gonna just keep flying the Mavic 2 Pro until my skills demand I upgrade. Thanks for doing this video! It's really informative.
In the same boat, pretty happy withy mavic 2 pro. But the bigger sensor for low light is tempting.
I see myself and many people using ProRes with the cine Version for more flexibility in postproduction but being honest is overkill for most people.
I’ve been using the 2 pro and it still does what I need it to do, I’m upgrading only cause I know technology improves user experience as well.
Let’s just hope for DJI not limiting the base model to make us go for the expensive version lol
Dji isn’t just going to make the difference pro res, they’re going to make that package appealing. Just like how they make their combos appealing.
we will see Friday
Excellent video. Exactly what I was looking for and helped me make a decision.
Is all about how and what for you use your drone . here in Los Angeles there's some people I know with quite a few clients that request ProRes . so far I had not jumped on the ProRes train yet but if I can get my hands on something smaller $$$$ than a Inspire 2 that can produce prores I sure will . nice video as always .
I am looking at the M1 which one did you buy you are much more up on this than I . Thanks for the great videos
Brilliant, love your way of saying how it is, straight to the point, totally get it.
Awesome explanation of Prores. Makes it easier for me to now to make the decision. I agree in taking the money and upgrading the computer. Thank you.
Prores is an editing codec and h.264/265 are deliverable codecs.
My Air2s and MA2 will do me just fine!
good advice ! thank yo
Great video Ken. It’ll be interesting to see what the Mavic 3 reviews. I agree with you on upgrading your PC. I custom built my Widows PC for editing, but I’m now considering getting a MacBook (for editing), even though I’m not really an Apple fan.
That's the review I need! Thanks
Great video Ken, you made it as clear as possible to understand. I certainly would have no Need for cine version of the Mavic 3 . My air 2 S does everything I’d want with my 5 batteries
Great info!! Thanks Ken
Nice job. I really appreciate the "no nonsense" approach of your content. Thank you for your work.
I appreciate you taking the time to watch the stuff I put out
Thanks for explaining it so well, and I agree that most of us don't need ProRes. And even more great advice about updating your computer for these large video files coming out of the Mavic 3. See you at SpinUp.
This is perfect. Ken you explained it perfectly. 👍
Well said Ken. Thanks for the info.
Love your channel. Cheers from Ireland 🇮🇪👍
Thnx for explaining
Great video as usual Ken! Another key point for us DaVinci Resolve users, ProRes is not natively supported in Resolve, clips must be converted to DLog by a 3rd party software prior to bringing it in and doing the color grade. I personally will not be getting the Cine version of the M3.
Great explanation, Ken, thanks.
Thank you Ken for that information. Helped a lot. Mavic 2 Pro x2 owner, think my next purchase will be Mavic Enterprise Advanced.
good info thanks !
Thanks. I'm planning on buying the Mavic 3. Now I know, just to get the regular one. I never want to do any post production anyway.
Hey Ken, excellent presentation and stuffed with a lot of quality information. Your explanations were presented very well and easy to understand for the none tech’s. This will hopefully help the no e tech’s. Well Done
I agree with the above comment. 🌞
Thank you very useful information 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Appreciate you helpful video
I agree. Having such a great pro3 and don’t know how to post prod, it will be sad. Even with the mini2, you can have very good quality after post production.
Thanks for you great video 🤩
Thank you!
Great video, glad someone is saying this, 100% agree, unfortunately I think lots i people will still buy it because it’s the most expensive and they have to have the best. Same happens with the pro 2
Good information to know ,thank you
Thanks for the explanation of ProRes. That makes complete sense. My aim is to buy the flymore combo with the smart controller. I don't need ProRes or the extra onboard capacity. I'm hoping that combination won't be too much more than 3 grand.
Stone cold! I love it, that being said, the explanation would save people a lot of money, time, space, headaches and much more, good job buddy!
Always the truth!! Can't wait to see your review on the M3.... I hope you got your hands on one!!
Thanks for explaining the difference
Great info and explanation.
Great explanation. Straight to the point.
Great Info as always!!! 👍👍
Great explanation. I would honestly have gotten the Cine version if I were to buy it when it releases, but now I'll settle with the lesser version, although with the smart controller :)
I did not know about ProRes, so great info!
Keep up the good work!
Well done Ken. Your making it very understandable. If you didnt have your youtube channel would you buy the Mavic 3 cine for real estate work?
Great advice.
Most good explanation.. - Cheers
Thank you for sharing and the simplicity in your explanation for us non-neophytes who are tech savvy but not to the point of understanding the differences in the codecs! Thank you.
Anytime
@@OriginaldoBo Forgot to ask but what is your view on whether if we have a Mavic 2 Pro already on what the advantages will be in actual footage quality of getting a 3? I see fly time will be longer which is an obvious plus. Also what about our controllers if we already have a DJI controller for the 2 will it work with the 3? From what I have seen and heard - sounds like it won't . . .
@@managerofthenewportplumses301 I doubt the controllers would work if they're advertising a brand new version for the cine. They even changed the normal controllers for the A2S and the Mini 2 so I would assume a regular controller would look similar to those.
@@speedball10169 - I assumed so
will this fit on the 7 inch tab as well ???
Great video, just keeping it simple and easy to understand
The cine version is way more than the majority of people will ever need, and then even if they want to use ProRes they will have to go and drop some decent coin on a high quality computer
60GB for 5 minutes.....my shithouse computer would explode trying to edit something like that!
Great explainer. 👍
Prores is optimized for editing, would edit much smoother than something like H.265.
Very well explained.
Great breakdown!
With drones it's hard to find anything other than say the inspire series that shoots something other than h2.64 and h2.65. You really need to look at dynamic range and color bit depth as h2.64 and 2.65 have come a long, long way in what they can handle.
I felt that last statement about knowing how to leverage your own equipment. I bought a mavic 2 pro a few years ago and was so excited to fly it but didn’t invest in filters and didn’t take the time to really hone in on my settings. I have some video from Sorrento, Italy that would’ve been mind blowing but is noisy as all hell! Even got some blurry stills! I say this to say, Ill bet there will be a lot of people going to the Cine, but still get blown out by people still using their mavic 2 pro. I am sitting on my hands to upgrade to the regular model but until I run into an actual limitation, I can’t justify the jump
Thanks again for the info!
Sometimes it takes some time to really hone things in. I get obsessive over things and focus more than I should sometimes
@@OriginaldoBo right but you gotta know the basics!
Yes, agree, saving money for upgrading computer or just pick less gigs and spend more time with the family.
Made feel sooo much better about giving up on that Cine dream lol!
You broke it down in laymen terms. I appreciate that.
Nice video Ken. It had from the start to the end. Thanks.
Absolutely agree. Regarding the rest of the super hyped Mavic3 all the features are available in the Autel Evo2 Pro at $1800. The Evo 2 Pro is 6K video drone with one Sony 20 mp 8x zoom camera. 40 minutes flying time and an sd card up to 1 tetrabyte.
Meh, I picked up an E2P 6 months ago after years of flying DJI stuff. It’s okay for stills, but it just doesn’t fly like a DJI drone. Very difficult to get smooth footage. Image transmission isn’t nearly as good as Ocusync either. I like how quiet it is, and the interface is easy to use.
Thanks man, great video and explanation. I notice with 10bit H265 from the M2Pro I can scrub like butter on the iPad Pro with LumaFusion. For this reason, if I were getting this drone, I would go with the regular version. I don’t generally edit on FCP. I’m also no professional. Bummer about the remote, but it is what it is. I noticed you mentioned prores is 10 bit. The M3 does do 10bit with the h265/h264 right? I’m also concerned with the fact that if I do throw it in LumaFusion, it is compressed a SECOND time. Which would degrade quality. But like you, I simply don’t see the difference. Maybe in low light?
ProRes is an Intra frame (every frame is it’s own entity) codec and H.265 is an inter frame codec (has key frames every so many frames and only calculates the changes in between) so in theory the ProRes should hold up the fine detail in trees quite a bit better, it should also grade better due to the higher bit rate.
Once uploaded to RUclips or streaming services it’s negligible to the “average joe pilot” I use ProRes on my Cinelifters just for the reason that capturing more information allows me to reduce the jello.
@@OriginaldoBo Yeah man I agree for most people ProRes and the more hefty price tag of the Cine Version probably isn't worth it, that being said why not just grab the Air2s, I have one and the video from it as you know is pretty damn good.
I'm looking for a review on the "DNG photos" as a real estate photographer coming from a Phantom 4. I can't find anything.
"It's still gonna look like shit at the end of the day..." LOL! Love the honesty!
Thanks for the info, but do you know if the standard version comes with any other profile to shoot in 4.2.2 10 bit?
Yes you’ll still have 8bit 4.2.0 and 10bit 4.2.0
That's it! New favourite real taker 🔥
Interesting... Cool video Man... Catch you on the next one!
I find it pretty difficult to color match the mavic 2 pro to my xt4 in post. I think the regular mavic 3 with the M4/3 sensor will probably get me closer to the xt4 and that’s why I would buy one. The prores is no big deal honestly I rarely use my atomos with my fuji as I don’t see that much more flexibility in post compared to h265. Also the m1 MacBook handles fuji h265 very nicely, heck my iPad Pro eats h265 for breakfast.
Probably the best advice out there. Well said. If you have the cash buy a better computer.
I’m curious to know what the difference is between the M2P & M3P.
Great video Ken. Poor Paul and his slow internet connection lol.
Great summary Ken, thanks. Can you comment on the availability of the new smart controller as an add on to the fly more non-cine version?
I'm not a prores fan but I'm sure clients will ask for it even though it isn't all that useful IMO. ROI in 2 months instead of 1 but still.
wont know until Friday
@@OriginaldoBo Was that a won't know or a can't say? 😄
Ken.............I did watch a few videos of you drinking on set and I agree with Drone Dude. A bit out of character. You are a smart guy. No need for alcohol.
Just bought the EVO 2 Pro 6K V.2 and the S.C. V.2............................Love coming your way from Canada.
The fact is, I was so hyped into buying the Cine version but after watching this video a few times you put the reality of the Cine purchase is not for me at all. So, what am I going to do? Buy the Mavic 3 combo version with a Tripletec pro tablet and I honestly believe that would be the best decision. Original, thank you for clarifying what ProRes is intended for and it’s not intended for me. Plus I save a few bucks at that.
Doesn’t mention the extra gear that comes with the cine, but still good info.
i use zcam too!
No wonder why these are coming with TB storages... Makes sense now. Thx
Thanks so much for explaining this like I'm 5 years old. I think I understand it better now. 🌞 Lol great video, Ken.
So true...but I feel like I'm 4 sometimes 😁 So much to learn even just as a hobbiest
Ken does a great job for all of us.
Only ProRes HD but not regular ProRes right?
Funny how sometimes editing can mask any camera used. I saw a DJI FPV camera mistaken for one costing tens of thousands more by experts in the cine world. I’m just an average drone guy, but Ken broke this down to where I could understand that I’ll be just fine with the $2000 version. I don’t even need the Fly more combo. One 40 minute battery is usually more then enough time for me to shoot. Let alone (3) 40 minute batteries.
Not really interested in the Mavic 3. 48 mph would be kind of cool, but the Mavic 2 handles everything just fine, when you can actually take off without interference from the DJI geofencing overlords. I couldn't take off the other day with the mavic 2 so I just used the evo II. There are just too many hoops to jump through with DJI.
you hit the nail in the head. Most will never fully use ProRes. and they will be happy with h265. Personally i don't plan on buying a mavic 3 Cine, because i own a Inspire 2 with X7 lens and CinamaDNG license. its better to spend money and upgrade their Computer
I rather see people up the machine processing the image. They will thank me later
Damn your attitude and content has improved big time
What people also forget to mention is that a big portion of the $4,999 is the $1,199 remote that it comes with so when you deduct that we're at an $800 difference and for that you get an extra set of ND filters, 1TB of SSD and ProRes.... The question is "are those three things worth $800 for my workflow? I think for 99% the answer is no. We've been making more than due with shitty DJI H265 files.
Off topic but, did the issue you had with the air 2s glitching get resolved with updates or do you still notice severe lag from time to time?
yeah its been solid
I think it's strange, that no one is allowing you to preorder the mavic 3, just a few days before it's release. Don't they usally do that?
GREAT VIDEO BROTHA
Good video! Makes it understandable. Will be going from Mavic 2 pro to Mavic 3 regular fly more combo. And this was posted before the launch, but prices are a bit steeper! Unless you really really need prores 422 hq (gigantic file sizes), can't see too many people buying the cine version. For 5k vs 3k USD for the fly more combo of the regular version. To be honest editing and grading in h.265 on Resolve from my mavic 2 pro, and nearly obsolete computer does fine. Ok older dual cpu 36 core workstation, so not your average pc. But old now. Mostly upgrading for better resolution and 4/3 sensor and low light. Still not happy with remote controller, wish they had retained led from mavic 2 pro with flight info.
We will have to see how it all performs , I’m going to be optimistic
I dont need cine but i'll have to get it over standard because stupid DJI Fly app is not compatible with most android smartphones
Thanks for the clear explanation and comparison. I'll stick with what I've got for the time being, unless I get a huge contract like Jake Sloan gets all of the time....
Jake’s the man!
For this price (more than 4000$) does a inspire 2 (or 1) may not be better for professional footage 🤔?
Great video and great explanation. I would love a Mavic 3 any model but will have to save or do some serious overtime. If my other half got wind of it I would be divorced before we got married..
The easiest way to tell them is if you shoot in auto save your money. If you how to use manual it may be of benefit.
Hello! I would appreciate if anyone can help! Can I insert an external SD card to help with the limited 8gb of storage on the mavic 3? If so, say I insert a 64gb card and run out of room for footage during my session, and need to insert a new SD card. Am I able to take out the first SD card and immediately download it onto the computer? Also, when recording, I'm afraid my video will somehow split and some will be saved onto internal storage and some may be on my SD card. Can I make it to where it's all saved on the SD card to avoid getting split? Last question, for footage saved solely on the internal 8gb storage, if I want to upload this onto my laptop I have to have the whole drone plugged into my laptop right?
THANK YOU!! !!
Great breakdown of the Cine version definitely not the version for me at the moment....flymore combo it is
I think I’ll stay with my mini 2 lmao or upgrade to the air2s for 5 years 🤣
Nice video. Does the macbook m1 pro sell for 2k? Which one did you buy?
14inch M1 10core 16 core GPU
@@OriginaldoBo Thx buddy! I am looking for a fast laptop. I have a 10k pc with fast gpu but would also like to have a fast laptop.
Thanks for thr explanation Ken. Was talking to some of the guys and pretty much what you said I said. If you're not making low budget movies you don't need the high end one unless you have $5,000 burning a hole in that pocket 😂
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I thought his name was Bo?