Billy, your videos are always top-notch quality - very well made: information-dense and fun to watch at the same time. Thank you for your work! And sorry for whatever happened to your finger :)
Vouch for this comment, it actually compresses the footage depending on where it's going to be uploaded. Also keep in mind when you need to edit footage through any software, your bitrate is EVERYTHING and your encoding settings can make or break the quality of footage. There's much more to it than just that, but I don't want to write a book. If you're someone who plans on using footage for your own video edits/footage to upload anywhere you need to have a good understanding of video encoding things
I'd be curious to see another footage/codec comparison of a shot with lot of motion in the frame, and if the h265 still holds up. I assume the codecs were indistinguishable because a still shot like that where the data isn't changing much isn't too demanding in terms of bitrate.
@@johnbanks9392 While it's always questionable due to DJI's choices with H264/5, there's no inherent reason to question the quality of H264/5 'IPB' relative to ProRes 422 HQ. H264/5 can be either an IPB codec or intra-frame (I-frame only) codec based on the encoding settings. But even 'IPB' H264/5 exceeds ProRes 422 HQ quality with or without fast motion within the 200Mbit/s VBR ceiling imposed by DJI in the Mavic 3, at least up to 4K UHD 10-bit 422 30fps content. Otherwise, given up to 300Mbit/s, there's nothing in the ProRes lineup that can match H264/5 IPB or intra quality up through 8K 16-bit 444 120fps content (alpha channel support not withstanding). Billy's friend was of little help with the distinctions between H264/5 and ProRes 422 HQ as well. Specifically, ProRes 422 HQ is not 'lossless' but deemed sufficiently 'visually lossless.' The same can be said of H264/5 as it exceeds 150Mbit/s with 4K UHD 10-bit 422 30fps content, for instance. If DJI had allowed the full 240Mbit/s guaranteed write speed for legacy V30 U3 SDXC cards, then even 5.1K@50fps footage in H264/5 VBR (IPB or intra) would qualify as 'visually lossless' while slightly exceeding the objective quality of equivalent ProRes 422 HQ footage. Of course, DJI could have adopted the faster V90 SDXC (UHS-II) socket from circa 2011 with 720Mbit/s guaranteed writes. Then of course nothing in the ProRes lineup (including ProRes 4444 XQ) could match the quality of H264/5 in any case. So ProRes was exclusively a workflow decision by DJI, while the H264/5 bitrate limit may have been added to keep H264/5 from exceeding the quality of ProRes 422 HQ with 5.1K@50 footage.
@@christophersoto8905 The best value for sure. Be sure to select VBR (vice CBR) for the best results. Since I responded above, I've noticed that H264/5 in DLog is 10-bit 420 in the Cine (while the ProRes recordings are 10-bit 422). That 420 chroma compression won't be noticeable for drone footage at high res (4K or better) in any case. But a noteworthy decision by DJI, that won't likely be changed through firmware updates (but who knows). Also, for H264/5 the 'Normal' color mode is 8-bit color. That 8-bit would become an issue under heavy colorization or exposure balance in post, but that's why there's 10-bit DLog available.
@@wingsfromheaven8788 I'm curious though. Can the M3 Cine record H264/5 at a higher bit rate than the M3? And if so, would I still want to use ProRes at all?
I do & I can’t wait. Great job. Shocked me for a second with 2999 and 2999 at the start discussing price for the 1st two levels. Thanks for sharing. And thanks for showing the codec differences.
Very in-depth and to the point - love it! Yeah I have the mavic air 2 now and I'm excited as heck to buy the Mavic 3 fly more combo in Q1 2022 (once all of the other features actually come out lol)
Yes! Good morning Billy. I was pondering this question myself. Can't wait to jump on this video after my 9 to 5 gig. Good video to make about the different packages.
Great explanation of the differences of Cini model, and how most of it involves the ProRes codec. And thanks to breaking down the differences in files formats, how much larger the ProRes ones are. I think I will pass on the Cini model, I don’t have a need for a ProRes work flow at this time.
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Can you change the recording quality with the cine version to record at a lower quality comparable to the non cine? Are the cameras the same and it is just a license for the ProRes that the cine version comes with? I am looking at the cine since I want the pro controller.
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Converting h.265 to ProRes for Final Cut before editing it is a good solution for older/slower computers. Then you can also export it fresh every time for output.
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Thanks, Billy, I have been looking for a video that does this comparison since the drone came out! Your videos rock as always and are very informative.
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I love how you provide downloadable full quality samples of the drone so that way we can test it out and see if it’s even worth it to purchase. Also I think that the regular Mavic 3 is the better Value for the buck.
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hey friend i have watched for a while now i have one question,do you think i should get t he mavic 3 cine over the mavic 3 pro non cine being i already own the inspire 2 with multiple lensse
I'm wondering if its more worthwhile to go for a mavic 3 enterprise instead of cine since you have mechanical shutter great for pics. im thinking of a hybrid to do cinematic stuff as well as mapping. also can anyone confirm if M3E uses hasselbad as well? doest seem to be mentioned but specs seem to be the same.
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I’d like to see some night video comparisons with the ProRes. How about the skyline an Ben Franklin bridge? One thing clear in your example clip is that the current CODECs are really quite good. Also would like to see more clips with the 7x camera and how it could be used to dramatic effect with foreground subjects, instead of just zooming in to a distant, blurry landscapes.
Mai I ask a question ? I'm korean living in korea, doing some drone shootings here, i wonder in US which video format they are using most, just h264 in mavic and phantom or prores or cinema dng in the market ? if movies or tv dramas, may be prores or cinema dng is the most used ones, how about in the other areas ? or if you can tell me your situation, that will be a help to understand the market. normally here in korea we use mavic or phantom for normal footages, but for movies maybe inspire or Maurice.. and how about in the near future as we have now mavic cine ? thanks for your comments on this in advance.
I think DJI has done a fantastic with product placement in Mavic 3 lineup. Classic, pro & cine. Something for every level. I love to shoot tele and zoom into subjects and play with the compression. It’s so cool to have a subject against a backdrop far far away. So much creative potential there.
How are you liking the offload workflow? Just love the idea of dropping of my drone off at DIT at the end of a day on set. 🤪 Also, do you need to power the bird to offload?
G'day Billy I'm wandering how this drone (Mavic 3 Cine) is still holding up to this day? Do you still have it? Have there been any firmware updates (like additional ProRes formats added)?
Best explainer video! Thank you for this as it made me make my decision! I wish I could buy the regular Mavic and then just upgrade to the Pro remote instead of having to two remotes.
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Hello Billy. You earned my sub with this video. Whereas other youtubers have concentrated on fancy edits, you have actually told us what we need to know. As far as I can tell, yours is the only video that actually talks about file sizes for example. One other thing that I feel is worth mentioning is that on PC, using Davinci Resolve, Pro Res is just easier to edit. It's a much smoother experience, as you are not needing to decompress on the fly. I feel like £2000 more for the cine is fair, given the remote, licence and 1TB drive included. Thanks again for the genuinely informative video!
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Billy, great analysis and review, as always. In your opinion, are the connectivity improvements in the Cine’s RC, by themselves, a strong enough reason to get the Mavic 3 Cine?
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Billy, good video. Have you seen any IQ difference on the m3 between 264 and 265? Any recommendation on which is better image quality or are they basically the same as you see it? Thx.
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Thank you so much for the footage in this video and the previous one! the question of death is is the cine worth it against the 3 combo ?! I played with your footage. Even pushing the colors to levels not possible and the zoom to 1000% I can not distinguish the prores 3 cine of the h265 of the 3 standard ... Dynamic range, sharpness, tones, everything is the same despite the fact that I was trying (and wanted) to find a difference. I'd use it for professional work, but for the moment I am not convinced to pay for the cine knowing that i can buy the remote separately with the 3 combo .. In addition to that the pro files are 10x heavier than the H265. Tell me if I'm wrong!? The only thing I can see is that maybe in the future DJI would release updates that would make the cine version even better
I was waiting for this comparison video so I can make a decision whether I should buy which drone. I'm not a professional I'm just an average flyer. I'll fly for recreation I don't make money with my drone but I like flying. Billy once again thank you so much for the info now I have come up with a decision on what you drone I will purchase. Looks just like the fly more combo kit for the mavic 3 is what I'm leaning on. Thanks again
Thanks Billy! I'll download the files and take a look. Do you think there will be a new version of the Inspire anytime soon? Worth waiting for interchangeable lenses? Or are they making Mavic their primary product since it has prores option now?
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Hi billy I was wondering if you can answer a question that for some reason, no one wants to answer. When filming in high quality, why is it when I upload it on RUclips or watch it on the computer it’s at 1080 ? I shot in 5.4k why am I getting bad quality when I transfer to RUclips or computer?
@BillyKyle Thank you so much for this, ive ordered the combo and this backs up my decision. I will buy the RC pro when they reduce it ha.. BTW did you keep your MP2?
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So OK got a question? If I want the Mavic 3 and I want the RC Pro controller, being also to buy a 1tb card ($300+-), would I be better off getting the cinema version as to get the Mavic 3 fly more ($3000) and the controller ($1200) on the side and a 1tb card ($300) . Seems the cost of the Cine version ids not that much more at $500 more (technically add the ($180 filter) the cinema vs is $380 more than getting the regular 3 and everything that comes with it. So my question is, for what you get with the cine version and I love the pro controller, should I get the cine version even just for the controller and the option of doing the pro res even if I don’t use it often in that res? Thanks for your time and reading all this.
I was of the same mind on this. I fly a Mavic 2 Pro now with a 7" Crystal Sky and DJI said that the Crystal Sky monitor doesn't work with the Mavic 3. Having a smaller monitor has been of growing interest for the sake of usability, setup/breakdown speed, and less batteries/cables/chargers to manage. For me, it wasn't that much of a leap to get Cine model compared to purchasing the Mavic 3 combo + controller separately.
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Billy, I believe they will update the new SC to run with the air2s eventually and obviously newer drones ahead to which I can’t wait till they do so I can have this with my air 2S instead of the older version. What’s your thoughts?
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Our decision came down to upgraded controller from m3 to m3c and additional collision sensors from the air 2s. We fly tight areas with lots of thick vegetation. In your opinion how does the air 2s compare to the m3c
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Thanks for the samples - really useful. What ISO are the night time videos shot at? Also - do you have any extdended shots of the 7x zoom. The zoom sample is useful, but I'd like to see more at the optical resolution.
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Nice video. I will buy the Simple version the combo one plus the new smart controller and of course two years care. But first I need to See the active track if it is flawless like skydio and one question for You. Will it have WAYPOINTS? And will it have More colour settings? like Mavic 2 pro?
It will NOT be like Skydio. Skydio does not take quality video when flying through obstacles. DJI has better camera than Skydio. Also, most people buy a drone to take videos from certain angles that the Skydio cannot do it.
@@NICKs_HIGHTECH DJI claims it has an improved one, but I doubt it would be the level of Skydio. So, I hope we see a significant improvement though with the DJI one.
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Great review but you lost me when you where talking about loosing quality if you export over and over with H264 and H265. Do you meant if you use a file that you exported and have it in a another project and then export you'll loose some quality? Or if you export the same project a few times it will loose quality. Never heard this before Billy. Please let us know. Also with Mavic 3 no cine. Would the highest quality be H264?
I typically shoot H265 on other cameras when given the choice. Also output H265 main10 in resolve with DCI-P3 and sRGB color/gamma. Colors look richer once uploaded
Thanks for all of that information @Billy Kyle. This is what I was looking for and it solidifies my thoughts on not buying this drone as a hobby flyer, especially the Cine Combo, for now. That being said I would not push the Fly More Combo aside if one day it becomes a little more affordable. I would love to have the 360 obstacle avoidance and the camera's capabilities. I currently own the Mini 2 and the awesome Air 2S so I am really happy with that hangar of drones. Sorry to have not seen you at SpinUp2021 this year but maybe next time! Peace!
I'm flying just over a year and started with the Mavic Air 2 Flymore, loved it, then got the DJI fpv, absolutely love it, then when the Mavic 3 was announced I set about trying to sell my beloved Mavic Air 2 and did sell it now I've ordered the Mavic 3 Flymore and I'm buzzing to get my hands on it, I'm pretty new to the game and it's something I've fallen in love with, happy flying BL 🚁👍
@@belovedLion80 great choice, there's a 2018 and 2020 Macbook Pro in my house and both belong to my daughters and I use the 2020 one to do my editing, which I'm totally new to also, but the Intel chip isn't great handling 4K 60 footage, the M1 chip seems to be a beast which I will need to invest in at some point.
@@ThePokeManiac hello abrar, so I had the original Air2 not the Air2 S, so for me it was a massive jump, I did not have the Air2 S so I can't directly compare them.
Well, you just saved me $2000 😂 thank you I've been frustrated for weeks deciding between the fly more and the cine. I spent too many hours trying to get all the info. Seeing the actual footage helps
Hi Billy, Great review as always! I have a question for you… I ordered the Mavic three cine and will get it in a few days…. Which new Apple M1 laptop would you recommend for editing? I plan on using the latest in Final Cut Pro. Thank you, Scott
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Hi Billy, great video. I’m a licensed pilot but don’t really work Bc I’m handicap. I’ve been flying for about 8yrs. So it’s more of a hobby. I have a smart controller I use with my mavic 2 pro and really like it. My question is if I don’t go the cine route will the mavic 3 fly more controller fit a mini iPad to use as a screen for flying? The new smart controller looks very nice and eliminates the need for a iPad or iPhone? That’s worth a $1,000 to me of the $2,000.00 more on the cine package. Your thoughts?
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Hey Billy. nice video. So hey. I sent you a DM on insta..so sorry for the redundancy, but not to get long winded. but im a still photog in the ski industry. Just been getting into the drone game. But it's been tricky shooting stills with the mavic 2 and the air 2s. Im used to spraying an praying with a 16 FPS 1dx mark 3. the buffer rates and the lack of a burst mode in the mavics is not ideal with ski photography.. my question is! is the buffer speed of the SSD on the Cine significantly faster then the regular buffer on a fast micro sd card or the on board 8G drive when shooting raw still images? thanks for your time!
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@@billykyle Still don't know which direction I'm going and whether to pull the trigger. I'm pretty happy with the Mavic 2 + Smart Controller (V1). So upgrading to the non-Cine 3's seems like a step down unless I also get the new controller...which basically puts me into the Cine. It's a conundrum. Do I really need a $5K drone? Probably not. Want? Absolutely!
Im thinking about the non cine fly more. I assume the rc pro transmitter is compatible but is it worth it? Or is my S22 Ultra phone good enough or better?
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Billy, I just received a notification that says that my earlier comment was selected randomly from this post and I’ve won a Mavic 3 Cine. Seems to good to be true. Does this sound the least bit familiar?
does those the 2nd generation remote controller sold separetly? It would nice if combo has it, and what abour signal booster? Does it has to be needed?
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Thank YOU Billy! I was wondering if you can answer something for me…. If I shoot something with higher resolution than 4K, for example 5.1 K, and then output that in 4K, would that be higher quality than just shooting in 4K originally? I hope that makes sense.
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Billy, your videos are always top-notch quality - very well made: information-dense and fun to watch at the same time. Thank you for your work! And sorry for whatever happened to your finger :)
Thank you Alex! My finger is feeling better now… looks worse than it feels!
Apple Prores 422 HQ is not a lossless codec (according to Apple). Otherwise, great video.
Vouch for this comment, it actually compresses the footage depending on where it's going to be uploaded.
Also keep in mind when you need to edit footage through any software, your bitrate is EVERYTHING and your encoding settings can make or break the quality of footage.
There's much more to it than just that, but I don't want to write a book. If you're someone who plans on using footage for your own video edits/footage to upload anywhere you need to have a good understanding of video encoding things
The codec vs video I’ve been waiting for. Thanks!
You’re welcome!
I'd be curious to see another footage/codec comparison of a shot with lot of motion in the frame, and if the h265 still holds up. I assume the codecs were indistinguishable because a still shot like that where the data isn't changing much isn't too demanding in terms of bitrate.
Yep, it's during fast motion that these IPB codecs rear their ugly head
@@johnbanks9392 While it's always questionable due to DJI's choices with H264/5, there's no inherent reason to question the quality of H264/5 'IPB' relative to ProRes 422 HQ. H264/5 can be either an IPB codec or intra-frame (I-frame only) codec based on the encoding settings. But even 'IPB' H264/5 exceeds ProRes 422 HQ quality with or without fast motion within the 200Mbit/s VBR ceiling imposed by DJI in the Mavic 3, at least up to 4K UHD 10-bit 422 30fps content. Otherwise, given up to 300Mbit/s, there's nothing in the ProRes lineup that can match H264/5 IPB or intra quality up through 8K 16-bit 444 120fps content (alpha channel support not withstanding).
Billy's friend was of little help with the distinctions between H264/5 and ProRes 422 HQ as well. Specifically, ProRes 422 HQ is not 'lossless' but deemed sufficiently 'visually lossless.' The same can be said of H264/5 as it exceeds 150Mbit/s with 4K UHD 10-bit 422 30fps content, for instance. If DJI had allowed the full 240Mbit/s guaranteed write speed for legacy V30 U3 SDXC cards, then even 5.1K@50fps footage in H264/5 VBR (IPB or intra) would qualify as 'visually lossless' while slightly exceeding the objective quality of equivalent ProRes 422 HQ footage. Of course, DJI could have adopted the faster V90 SDXC (UHS-II) socket from circa 2011 with 720Mbit/s guaranteed writes. Then of course nothing in the ProRes lineup (including ProRes 4444 XQ) could match the quality of H264/5 in any case.
So ProRes was exclusively a workflow decision by DJI, while the H264/5 bitrate limit may have been added to keep H264/5 from exceeding the quality of ProRes 422 HQ with 5.1K@50 footage.
@@wingsfromheaven8788 this just made me want to get the fly more combo instead of the Cine
@@christophersoto8905 The best value for sure. Be sure to select VBR (vice CBR) for the best results. Since I responded above, I've noticed that H264/5 in DLog is 10-bit 420 in the Cine (while the ProRes recordings are 10-bit 422). That 420 chroma compression won't be noticeable for drone footage at high res (4K or better) in any case. But a noteworthy decision by DJI, that won't likely be changed through firmware updates (but who knows).
Also, for H264/5 the 'Normal' color mode is 8-bit color. That 8-bit would become an issue under heavy colorization or exposure balance in post, but that's why there's 10-bit DLog available.
@@wingsfromheaven8788 I'm curious though. Can the M3 Cine record H264/5 at a higher bit rate than the M3? And if so, would I still want to use ProRes at all?
I do & I can’t wait. Great job. Shocked me for a second with 2999 and 2999 at the start discussing price for the 1st two levels. Thanks for sharing. And thanks for showing the codec differences.
Everytime I want to know something, I can find that on your chanel. Seems like you know everything about what I am thinking.
Very in-depth and to the point - love it! Yeah I have the mavic air 2 now and I'm excited as heck to buy the Mavic 3 fly more combo in Q1 2022 (once all of the other features actually come out lol)
Great review that i waiting for. Thank you for the sample clips.
Yes! Good morning Billy. I was pondering this question myself. Can't wait to jump on this video after my 9 to 5 gig. Good video to make about the different packages.
Thanks Keith! Hope this video helps you out!
This is really super useful review!🤩 Thanks so much! 👍🏻
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Mega thanks for this! Super helpful and you probably saved alot of people a lot of money!
Great information as always. Thanks so much!
So glad you made this video. Great info per usual!
Thanks Bob!
Great explanation of the differences of Cini model, and how most of it involves the ProRes codec. And thanks to breaking down the differences in files formats, how much larger the ProRes ones are. I think I will pass on the Cini model, I don’t have a need for a ProRes work flow at this time.
Very informative video, touching exactly what's important to understand. Thank you.
Best review I have seen on the issues presented. Thank you, I am now a subscriber !
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Another nice job Billy!! Exactly the info I needed.
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Can you change the recording quality with the cine version to record at a lower quality comparable to the non cine? Are the cameras the same and it is just a license for the ProRes that the cine version comes with? I am looking at the cine since I want the pro controller.
Finally a video that does a great job explaining the difference between each of them.
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Converting h.265 to ProRes for Final Cut before editing it is a good solution for older/slower computers. Then you can also export it fresh every time for output.
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Geat video. Really well done and informative.
Thanks for the concise and professional review as I’m looking to buy. Other video reviews I saw were not good.
Great review, and super useful including the download links to comparison clips. Thanks!
thank you so much for sharing files!
Thanks for a great, honest review.
Thanks, Billy, I have been looking for a video that does this comparison since the drone came out! Your videos rock as always and are very informative.
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Really great info and comparison. Thank you.
This video is truly a relieving G.A.S. killer. Thanks for the transparency, Billy! 😁👍
I love how you provide downloadable full quality samples of the drone so that way we can test it out and see if it’s even worth it to purchase. Also I think that the regular Mavic 3 is the better Value for the buck.
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I use ND 64 and higher for Hyperlapses. It makes cars and birds blur out, making for a smoother look.
Great info,,, will your be doing any comparisons or just mentioning your thoughts between I2 x5s… thank you
This is a great breakdown of the differences between the two. Thanks!
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Thanks for including the files to test, awesome!
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Thanks, Billy. Your thorough review is helpful!
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hey friend i have watched for a while now i have one question,do you think i should get t he mavic 3 cine over the mavic 3 pro non cine being i already own the inspire 2 with multiple lensse
Thanks Billy. I really appreciate your thoughts. You are one of my go-to reviewers on this particular drone…👍🏼.
Thank you Mike!
How can you compare the M3 with the Inspire 2? Interchangeable lenses, ProRes 444, CinemaDNG, two operators ... enough?
Best video! Thank you!!!
Hey Billy what software editing has been use at this tutorial? Thank you
Great video Billy, 110K incoming 👍
I'm wondering if its more worthwhile to go for a mavic 3 enterprise instead of cine since you have mechanical shutter great for pics. im thinking of a hybrid to do cinematic stuff as well as mapping. also can anyone confirm if M3E uses hasselbad as well? doest seem to be mentioned but specs seem to be the same.
Great review. Thank you for the sample clips. I'm looking forward to opening them and editing them to see how they look!
Awesome! Let me know what you think of them.
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I’d like to see some night video comparisons with the ProRes. How about the skyline an Ben Franklin bridge? One thing clear in your example clip is that the current CODECs are really quite good. Also would like to see more clips with the 7x camera and how it could be used to dramatic effect with foreground subjects, instead of just zooming in to a distant, blurry landscapes.
I'm curious as to what the image/video quality comparison is between inspire 2 and DJI mavic 3.
Mai I ask a question ? I'm korean living in korea, doing some drone shootings here, i wonder in US which video format they are using most, just h264 in mavic and phantom or prores or cinema dng in the market ? if movies or tv dramas, may be prores or cinema dng is the most used ones, how about in the other areas ? or if you can tell me your situation, that will be a help to understand the market. normally here in korea we use mavic or phantom for normal footages, but for movies maybe inspire or Maurice.. and how about in the near future as we have now mavic cine ? thanks for your comments on this in advance.
Very informative video Billy boy. I hope your thumb gets better soon. Much love.
Thanks Billy! Great video! Is the mavic 3 enough of an increase in video quality to upgrade from the Mavic 2 pro? Especially in low light.
not from what I see
I think DJI has done a fantastic with product placement in Mavic 3 lineup. Classic, pro & cine. Something for every level. I love to shoot tele and zoom into subjects and play with the compression. It’s so cool to have a subject against a backdrop far far away.
So much creative potential there.
Another great video Billy
Thanks Joe!
Hey mate, the 3 sample shots appear to be all the same lens is that right? Keen to see how all 3 lenses compare
Hi Billy I have a question. Does the standard and Fly more combo remote control use OS2 or OS3+
@Lon Denard that's disappointing to hear.
How are you liking the offload workflow? Just love the idea of dropping of my drone off at DIT at the end of a day on set. 🤪 Also, do you need to power the bird to offload?
Great info! Thanks!
G'day Billy
I'm wandering how this drone (Mavic 3 Cine) is still holding up to this day? Do you still have it? Have there been any firmware updates (like additional ProRes formats added)?
Best explainer video! Thank you for this as it made me make my decision! I wish I could buy the regular Mavic and then just upgrade to the Pro remote instead of having to two remotes.
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Hello Billy. You earned my sub with this video. Whereas other youtubers have concentrated on fancy edits, you have actually told us what we need to know. As far as I can tell, yours is the only video that actually talks about file sizes for example. One other thing that I feel is worth mentioning is that on PC, using Davinci Resolve, Pro Res is just easier to edit. It's a much smoother experience, as you are not needing to decompress on the fly. I feel like £2000 more for the cine is fair, given the remote, licence and 1TB drive included.
Thanks again for the genuinely informative video!
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Billy, great analysis and review, as always. In your opinion, are the connectivity improvements in the Cine’s RC, by themselves, a strong enough reason to get the Mavic 3 Cine?
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Just bought my Cine version. Can’t wait until it arrives!
Good comparison video and information Billy.
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Billy, good video. Have you seen any IQ difference on the m3 between 264 and 265? Any recommendation on which is better image quality or are they basically the same as you see it? Thx.
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Wel explained!!! Awesome video. Ty man!!
Thanks!
Can you make a video on how to transfer high quality videos and how to not lose quality in the process? Please and thank you
Another great one in the books Billy 👍
Thank you!
Thank you so much for the footage in this video and the previous one!
the question of death is is the cine worth it against the 3 combo ?!
I played with your footage. Even pushing the colors to levels not possible and the zoom to 1000% I can not distinguish the prores 3 cine of the h265 of the 3 standard ... Dynamic range, sharpness, tones, everything is the same despite the fact that I was trying (and wanted) to find a difference. I'd use it for professional work, but for the moment I am not convinced to pay for the cine knowing that i can buy the remote separately with the 3 combo .. In addition to that the pro files are 10x heavier than the H265. Tell me if I'm wrong!?
The only thing I can see is that maybe in the future DJI would release updates that would make the cine version even better
You’re spot on!
I was waiting for this comparison video so I can make a decision whether I should buy which drone. I'm not a professional I'm just an average flyer. I'll fly for recreation I don't make money with my drone but I like flying. Billy once again thank you so much for the info now I have come up with a decision on what you drone I will purchase. Looks just like the fly more combo kit for the mavic 3 is what I'm leaning on. Thanks again
Thanks Billy! I'll download the files and take a look. Do you think there will be a new version of the Inspire anytime soon? Worth waiting for interchangeable lenses? Or are they making Mavic their primary product since it has prores option now?
I'm hoping that this new drone will give DJI a kick in the butt to upgrade the Inspire.
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Very good analysis. I hadn't even thought about the included cost of the license.
Thank you!
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Hi billy I was wondering if you can answer a question that for some reason, no one wants to answer. When filming in high quality, why is it when I upload it on RUclips or watch it on the computer it’s at 1080 ? I shot in 5.4k why am I getting bad quality when I transfer to RUclips or computer?
Ever fly along the Schuylkill from near the Walnut St. bridge? Great shots of the bridges, would be great for a night hyperlapse.
@BillyKyle Thank you so much for this, ive ordered the combo and this backs up my decision. I will buy the RC pro when they reduce it ha.. BTW did you keep your MP2?
Thanks for the raw files
Great video! :) I would like to see some shots with more movement and some night video comparisons with the ProRes though.
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So OK got a question? If I want the Mavic 3 and I want the RC Pro controller, being also to buy a 1tb card ($300+-), would I be better off getting the cinema version as to get the Mavic 3 fly more ($3000) and the controller ($1200) on the side and a 1tb card ($300) . Seems the cost of the Cine version ids not that much more at $500 more (technically add the ($180 filter) the cinema vs is $380 more than getting the regular 3 and everything that comes with it.
So my question is, for what you get with the cine version and I love the pro controller, should I get the cine version even just for the controller and the option of doing the pro res even if I don’t use it often in that res?
Thanks for your time and reading all this.
I was of the same mind on this. I fly a Mavic 2 Pro now with a 7" Crystal Sky and DJI said that the Crystal Sky monitor doesn't work with the Mavic 3. Having a smaller monitor has been of growing interest for the sake of usability, setup/breakdown speed, and less batteries/cables/chargers to manage. For me, it wasn't that much of a leap to get Cine model compared to purchasing the Mavic 3 combo + controller separately.
I got the Cine for the Controller and the 1 TB SSD. Great video and information-Thanks👍
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Billy, I believe they will update the new SC to run with the air2s eventually and obviously newer drones ahead to which I can’t wait till they do so I can have this with my air 2S instead of the older version. What’s your thoughts?
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Great video. Thanks for clearing it up. Fly more combo for me.
Thanks! Great choice.
I already ordered the FM Combo. Now I need to order SC. Waiting for DJI to make it available again.
Our decision came down to upgraded controller from m3 to m3c and additional collision sensors from the air 2s. We fly tight areas with lots of thick vegetation. In your opinion how does the air 2s compare to the m3c
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Thanks for the samples - really useful. What ISO are the night time videos shot at? Also - do you have any extdended shots of the 7x zoom. The zoom sample is useful, but I'd like to see more at the optical resolution.
Check out my review video. I have sample zoom and night video
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Thanks again Billy!!!!!
Nice video. I will buy the Simple version the combo one plus the new smart controller and of course two years care. But first I need to See the active track if it is flawless like skydio and one question for You. Will it have WAYPOINTS? And will it have More colour settings? like Mavic 2 pro?
It will NOT be like Skydio. Skydio does not take quality video when flying through obstacles. DJI has better camera than Skydio. Also, most people buy a drone to take videos from certain angles that the Skydio cannot do it.
@@myytchannel6632 I agree but about the active track in obstaclea I mean?
@@NICKs_HIGHTECH DJI claims it has an improved one, but I doubt it would be the level of Skydio. So, I hope we see a significant improvement though with the DJI one.
Billy would you recommend getting the fly more and adding the RC Pro? I have the 2s combo with the smart controller and it's horrible.
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Dope review
Great review but you lost me when you where talking about loosing quality if you export over and over with H264 and H265. Do you meant if you use a file that you exported and have it in a another project and then export you'll loose some quality? Or if you export the same project a few times it will loose quality. Never heard this before Billy. Please let us know. Also with Mavic 3 no cine. Would the highest quality be H264?
I typically shoot H265 on other cameras when given the choice. Also output H265 main10 in resolve with DCI-P3 and sRGB color/gamma. Colors look richer once uploaded
Thanks for all of that information @Billy Kyle. This is what I was looking for and it solidifies my thoughts on not buying this drone as a hobby flyer, especially the Cine Combo, for now. That being said I would not push the Fly More Combo aside if one day it becomes a little more affordable. I would love to have the 360 obstacle avoidance and the camera's capabilities. I currently own the Mini 2 and the awesome Air 2S so I am really happy with that hangar of drones. Sorry to have not seen you at SpinUp2021 this year but maybe next time! Peace!
is the Mavic3 Cine better in lowlight than the Mavic3 ?
The Mavic Air 2, Mini 2, Dji fpv is perfect for me as a novice. Only been flying under 2 years but taking my sweet time in the hobby.
I'm flying just over a year and started with the Mavic Air 2 Flymore, loved it, then got the DJI fpv, absolutely love it, then when the Mavic 3 was announced I set about trying to sell my beloved Mavic Air 2 and did sell it now I've ordered the Mavic 3 Flymore and I'm buzzing to get my hands on it, I'm pretty new to the game and it's something I've fallen in love with, happy flying BL 🚁👍
Sounds Like a plan. It was between the Mavic 3 or the 2021 16” M1 MacBook pro 💻. Got the pro.
@@belovedLion80 great choice, there's a 2018 and 2020 Macbook Pro in my house and both belong to my daughters and I use the 2020 one to do my editing, which I'm totally new to also, but the Intel chip isn't great handling 4K 60 footage, the M1 chip seems to be a beast which I will need to invest in at some point.
@@DroningaboutIreland was it worth it to switch from air 2 s to Mavic 3? how much difference could you notice
@@ThePokeManiac hello abrar, so I had the original Air2 not the Air2 S, so for me it was a massive jump, I did not have the Air2 S so I can't directly compare them.
Well, you just saved me $2000 😂 thank you I've been frustrated for weeks deciding between the fly more and the cine. I spent too many hours trying to get all the info. Seeing the actual footage helps
Hi Billy,
Great review as always! I have a question for you… I ordered the Mavic three cine and will get it in a few days…. Which new Apple M1 laptop would you recommend for editing? I plan on using the latest in Final Cut Pro.
Thank you,
Scott
You could use the base level M1 chip and be fine. It’s what I used at first and it handled it like butter!
@@billykyle Thank you Billy!
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When recording ProRes, does the drone also record H.264 or H.265 files simultaneously?
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Thanks for the information Billy! In a way, this explains why the Cine is priced that way! With all the premium add-ons I think that's justifiable
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Hi Billy, great video. I’m a licensed pilot but don’t really work Bc I’m handicap. I’ve been flying for about 8yrs. So it’s more of a hobby. I have a smart controller I use with my mavic 2 pro and really like it. My question is if I don’t go the cine route will the mavic 3 fly more controller fit a mini iPad to use as a screen for flying? The new smart controller looks very nice and eliminates the need for a iPad or iPhone? That’s worth a $1,000 to me of the $2,000.00 more on the cine package. Your thoughts?
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Hey Billy. nice video. So hey. I sent you a DM on insta..so sorry for the redundancy, but not to get long winded. but im a still photog in the ski industry. Just been getting into the drone game. But it's been tricky shooting stills with the mavic 2 and the air 2s. Im used to spraying an praying with a 16 FPS 1dx mark 3. the buffer rates and the lack of a burst mode in the mavics is not ideal with ski photography.. my question is! is the buffer speed of the SSD on the Cine significantly faster then the regular buffer on a fast micro sd card or the on board 8G drive when shooting raw still images? thanks for your time!
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This if fantastic Billy, and was hoping someone would do this breakdown at this level.
Happy to share!
@@billykyle Still don't know which direction I'm going and whether to pull the trigger. I'm pretty happy with the Mavic 2 + Smart Controller (V1). So upgrading to the non-Cine 3's seems like a step down unless I also get the new controller...which basically puts me into the Cine. It's a conundrum. Do I really need a $5K drone? Probably not. Want? Absolutely!
Im thinking about the non cine fly more. I assume the rc pro transmitter is compatible but is it worth it? Or is my S22 Ultra phone good enough or better?
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Billy is the RC controller compatible with the Mavic 3 and if so, is/when will the controller be available on its own?
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Billy, I just received a notification that says that my earlier comment was selected randomly from this post and I’ve won a Mavic 3 Cine. Seems to good to be true. Does this sound the least bit familiar?
Thanks!
Wonder if you can use the old smart controller on the new Mavic 3?
Latest I heard is no.
does those the 2nd generation remote controller sold separetly? It would nice if combo has it, and what abour signal booster? Does it has to be needed?
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Thank YOU Billy! I was wondering if you can answer something for me…. If I shoot something with higher resolution than 4K, for example 5.1 K, and then output that in 4K, would that be higher quality than just shooting in 4K originally? I hope that makes sense.
Guess not.
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