Thank you so much for this! I'm glad for the feedback. Someone even made a hilarious react video to this. It's a bit long but funny. But I'm glad the Gospel went out, although mocked.
This guy made it almost impossible for me not to leave a comment! I guess to him, having a rational conversation with someone who does not believe what he believes is as bad as when the French folks hurled that cow over the castle wall at King Arthur and his crew and all King Arthur could say was "run away! run away!" in Monty Python and the Holy Grail!!
Nobody knows for sure where Jesus died short of lore. Same goes with his popping back into life after a three day death hiatus. Also, I've been to Yosemite a few times. All I saw was a granite glacial valley carved out about 250,000 years ago. Granite (pun), it is beautiful, but I see nothing there that remotely looks like a genie ran a finger through a newly opened peanut butter jar gouging that canyon out. Plus, if an atheist argues with you, you just go somewhere else? Seriously? Is that what Jesus did? And don't bring up Matthew 7:6-7. What do you do when a Jew argues with you about the divinity of Jesus? Do you just tuck tail and go talk to someone else who does not want to argue that claim? Instead of focusing on Matthew 7:6-7, you need to get the message that your Jesus put forth in Matthew 9:10-12. Also, the majority of people on this planet have never heard of Betty Crocker! What kind of asinine analogy is that?
@@DeconvertedMan He admitted that Gump conclusion that cracked you up so much! Sadly, for him, I used his Bible against him in my comment on his OV when it comes to the book of Matthew. I hope either he or one of his ilk responds to it!
So you want to convince people that are gullible, not with reason and rational thought? This is what we call self reporting. You don't have good reasons to believe, so you try and use fallacious reasoning to convince people. AKA, look at the trees, or look inside your heart. I'm sorry sir, but these are completely unreliable methods to determine is something is actually true or not.
Thank you for your comment. But someone who places their trust in Christ as Savior is not gullible. Actually atheists are gullible. They believe many unproven things.
@@TheKeesBoerMinistryChannel Is there any position that someone couldn't put there trust in? Does that tell you anything about the belief being true or not? Also, if it was shown to me that I was holding an unjustified belief, I would discard it immediately. It sounds like you don't actually care though if your beliefs are true or not, hence your fallacious reasoning. I use reliable methods to determine if what I believe is true or not, you on the other hand seem to rely on completely unreliable methods.
@@TheKeesBoerMinistryChannel what do you think I believe in that is unproven? Also it might very well be the case that I do... hold onto some belief that is in fact, unproven, that would mean that we would both be gullible (Tu quoque fallacy). Also of note, the OP did not say that anyone is "gullible." that was you that said that. Also I thought you would find someone else to talk to if atheists wanted to debate you? Also, what was the name of that atheist that you convinced in 10 mins? When year and where did that happen? I want to know more about that. :) Also are you Elvis?
In your opening you said: “…t would be great if you could take atheists to Israel so that they’ll see where Jesus died and where he rose from the dead…” - Israel is a country with a mostly Hebrew / Jewish population, isn’t it? And, generally, Israelis are not atheists, are they? And the sincere and faithful God-believing Israelis would most likely know where it is a Christian would share Jesus died and where he rose from the dead, wouldn’t they? And yet said Israelis don’t accept this, do they? And, as such, why would it be imagined taking an atheist to Israel is how to share this claim to an atheist-especially considering an atheist is already unconvinced that a god even exists?
That's a very good point... When I went there, I found it very convincing. But yes, some people won't be convinced of that. Of course, it's a hypothetical point. We can't just start taking folks to Israel... And then they would have to know where to go. Most Jewish people have never read the Christian Bible....
@@TheKeesBoerMinistryChannel Kees Boer, Thanks for the respectful reply. Here are my continued thoughts-based, in part, upon The Golden Rule: “When I went there, I found it very convincing.” - Give personal anecdotes unto others as you would have them give personal anecdotes unto you, right? As such, what would we say to a person who, for example, shares their story of traveling to Tibet, learned about the Buddha, and while there found it convincing? And Buddhists are, for the most part, Atheists, are they not? “But yes, some people won't be convinced of that.” - And the same can be said about Islam, Hinduism, Taoism, Shinto, Mormonism and Scientology, can’t it? And from here we can see that what a person does or does-not find convincing isn’t an argument for the truth-value of what they’ve been convinced of, yes? “Of course, it's a hypothetical point.” - What point was hypothetical? Does a hypothetical point (a philosophical thought experiment, if you will) lack value? “We can't just start taking folks to Israel... And then they would have to know where to go.” - What would we say to a Muslim who, regarding Mecca and the Great Mosque of Mecca (known as the Masjid al-Haram), suggested, ‘We can’t just start taking folks to Saudi Arabia… And then they would have to know where to go.’? “Most Jewish people have never read the Christian Bible....” - And most Americans probably haven’t read the Islamic Quran (which is said to be quite beautiful when experienced in the original Classical Arabic), the Hindu Vedas or Bhagavad Gita, the Buddhist Tripitaka, the Book of Mormon or L. Ron Hubbard’s Dianetics, have they? So… suggest / share your books unto others as they would suggest / share their books unto you? Doesn’t pole after pole suggest most Christians are ignorant of what’s actually contained within their Bible? But let’s imagine Americans-those having read the Christian Bible. They wouldn’t suggest atheists, Israelis (or other non-believers in Christianity) first read all the holy books of the other ‘major’ religions, subsequently travel to those foreign lands and visit their holy sites, before contemplating Christianity, would they? What I’d suggest, Kees Boer, is that while many have read the Christian Bible (written in Hebrew and Greek) and have had sincere religious experiences, they seldom, if ever, ponder The Golden Rule and the consequences of actually following this rule. yYM
thanks for the laugh. :) go somewhere else thats not the internet since like, idk all the atheists here will debate you I guess? woot. anyway... I made a video about your video that I'm sure you will not watch :) (prove wrong)
Yes, thank you for the laugh too!!! I laughed a lot during the react video! That was hilarious! I did watch it obviously. 38 minutes long. Of course you do realize that this video, nor this channel is an apologetics channel. This video is talking about how to share the Gospel with an atheist. I do have some apologetics videos here. You're welcome to watch them! But your video was great!
@@TheKeesBoerMinistryChannel *_"This video is talking about how to share the Gospel with(or should I say, run away from) an atheist."_* *_"Of course you do realize that this video [is not an apologetics video]"_* You do know what the definition of Apologetics is, don't you? Apologetics is by definition defending and sharing the Gospel with all. That is exactly what this video is! Non believers come in many varieties other than atheists. Your answer is to just go "talk to somebody else" when confronted with an atheist. Do you ever ask yourself WWJD before you scamper off??
@@TheKeesBoerMinistryChannel I'm glad you enjoyed it, but I wonder if it made any impact upon you, that is, given that you offer nothing to convince anyone that your ideas are true, why appeal to emotions - do you think that method will work? Is appealing to emotions a good way to know what is or is not true?
@@retrotechgames-diyrepair4691 I dont view morals in that way due to ethics - "morally superior" is not something that can be judged in any logical way that I am aware of, however there can be flaws in ethical systems, like DCT has a number of flaws with its system. Clearly the person enjoyed my reaction video. No idea what you are complaining about. But as far as my morals go, I would say they are far better then the god of the bible.
Thank you Kees for your advice 😊
Thank you so much, Nuria! I'm soooooo incredibly proud of you!!!!
Sound teaching my brother! Jesus taught us to shake the dust from our feet and move on. Hope you are well. And, yes, I smashed ALL the buttons!
Thank you so much for this! I'm glad for the feedback. Someone even made a hilarious react video to this. It's a bit long but funny. But I'm glad the Gospel went out, although mocked.
I heard that Biblical new testament comments are imperative command ( greek)
What does mean?
Do you mean Commands? That means it's like an order. Like "Do this." "Stand There." "Go and make disciples." That's what Imperative means.
No evidence, tests, or even a sound argument to offer? Appeal to emotions. That's it? Really? Wow.
This guy made it almost impossible for me not to leave a comment! I guess to him, having a rational conversation with someone who does not believe what he believes is as bad as when the French folks hurled that cow over the castle wall at King Arthur and his crew and all King Arthur could say was "run away! run away!" in Monty Python and the Holy Grail!!
@@FishHeadSalad :D indeed!
Because this is not an apologetic video.... I taught calculus for many years and can appreciate logic, but most atheists are not convinced by logic.
@@TheKeesBoerMinistryChannel How do you know how many atheists are or are not convinced by logic? Do you have any evidence that is the case?
@@TheKeesBoerMinistryChannel "most" do you have any data to show that... also four months latter O_o;
Nobody knows for sure where Jesus died short of lore. Same goes with his popping back into life after a three day death hiatus.
Also, I've been to Yosemite a few times. All I saw was a granite glacial valley carved out about 250,000 years ago. Granite (pun), it is beautiful, but I see nothing there that remotely looks like a genie ran a finger through a newly opened peanut butter jar gouging that canyon out.
Plus, if an atheist argues with you, you just go somewhere else? Seriously? Is that what Jesus did? And don't bring up Matthew 7:6-7. What do you do when a Jew argues with you about the divinity of Jesus? Do you just tuck tail and go talk to someone else who does not want to argue that claim?
Instead of focusing on Matthew 7:6-7, you need to get the message that your Jesus put forth in Matthew 9:10-12.
Also, the majority of people on this planet have never heard of Betty Crocker! What kind of asinine analogy is that?
But the trees! LOOK AT THE TREES.
@@DeconvertedMan But if I look at the trees, I can't see the forest through the trees!
@@FishHeadSalad He run forest run when atheist debate him XD
@@DeconvertedMan He admitted that Gump conclusion that cracked you up so much! Sadly, for him, I used his Bible against him in my comment on his OV when it comes to the book of Matthew.
I hope either he or one of his ilk responds to it!
@@FishHeadSalad maybe that isnt the sort of bible he follows for all we know.
So you want to convince people that are gullible, not with reason and rational thought? This is what we call self reporting. You don't have good reasons to believe, so you try and use fallacious reasoning to convince people. AKA, look at the trees, or look inside your heart. I'm sorry sir, but these are completely unreliable methods to determine is something is actually true or not.
Thank you for your comment. But someone who places their trust in Christ as Savior is not gullible. Actually atheists are gullible. They believe many unproven things.
@@TheKeesBoerMinistryChannel Is there any position that someone couldn't put there trust in? Does that tell you anything about the belief being true or not? Also, if it was shown to me that I was holding an unjustified belief, I would discard it immediately. It sounds like you don't actually care though if your beliefs are true or not, hence your fallacious reasoning. I use reliable methods to determine if what I believe is true or not, you on the other hand seem to rely on completely unreliable methods.
@@TheKeesBoerMinistryChannel what do you think I believe in that is unproven? Also it might very well be the case that I do... hold onto some belief that is in fact, unproven, that would mean that we would both be gullible (Tu quoque fallacy).
Also of note, the OP did not say that anyone is "gullible." that was you that said that. Also I thought you would find someone else to talk to if atheists wanted to debate you? Also, what was the name of that atheist that you convinced in 10 mins?
When year and where did that happen? I want to know more about that. :)
Also are you Elvis?
In your opening you said:
“…t would be great if you could take atheists to Israel so that they’ll see where Jesus died and where he rose from the dead…”
- Israel is a country with a mostly Hebrew / Jewish population, isn’t it? And, generally, Israelis are not atheists, are they? And the sincere and faithful God-believing Israelis would most likely know where it is a Christian would share Jesus died and where he rose from the dead, wouldn’t they? And yet said Israelis don’t accept this, do they? And, as such, why would it be imagined taking an atheist to Israel is how to share this claim to an atheist-especially considering an atheist is already unconvinced that a god even exists?
That's a very good point... When I went there, I found it very convincing. But yes, some people won't be convinced of that. Of course, it's a hypothetical point. We can't just start taking folks to Israel... And then they would have to know where to go. Most Jewish people have never read the Christian Bible....
@@TheKeesBoerMinistryChannel Kees Boer,
Thanks for the respectful reply. Here are my continued thoughts-based, in part, upon The Golden Rule:
“When I went there, I found it very convincing.”
- Give personal anecdotes unto others as you would have them give personal anecdotes unto you, right? As such, what would we say to a person who, for example, shares their story of traveling to Tibet, learned about the Buddha, and while there found it convincing? And Buddhists are, for the most part, Atheists, are they not?
“But yes, some people won't be convinced of that.”
- And the same can be said about Islam, Hinduism, Taoism, Shinto, Mormonism and Scientology, can’t it? And from here we can see that what a person does or does-not find convincing isn’t an argument for the truth-value of what they’ve been convinced of, yes?
“Of course, it's a hypothetical point.”
- What point was hypothetical? Does a hypothetical point (a philosophical thought experiment, if you will) lack value?
“We can't just start taking folks to Israel... And then they would have to know where to go.”
- What would we say to a Muslim who, regarding Mecca and the Great Mosque of Mecca (known as the Masjid al-Haram), suggested, ‘We can’t just start taking folks to Saudi Arabia… And then they would have to know where to go.’?
“Most Jewish people have never read the Christian Bible....”
- And most Americans probably haven’t read the Islamic Quran (which is said to be quite beautiful when experienced in the original Classical Arabic), the Hindu Vedas or Bhagavad Gita, the Buddhist Tripitaka, the Book of Mormon or L. Ron Hubbard’s Dianetics, have they? So… suggest / share your books unto others as they would suggest / share their books unto you?
Doesn’t pole after pole suggest most Christians are ignorant of what’s actually contained within their Bible? But let’s imagine Americans-those having read the Christian Bible. They wouldn’t suggest atheists, Israelis (or other non-believers in Christianity) first read all the holy books of the other ‘major’ religions, subsequently travel to those foreign lands and visit their holy sites, before contemplating Christianity, would they?
What I’d suggest, Kees Boer, is that while many have read the Christian Bible (written in Hebrew and Greek) and have had sincere religious experiences, they seldom, if ever, ponder The Golden Rule and the consequences of actually following this rule.
yYM
Tsek no praat jy kak poes
Dat was interesting!
thanks for the laugh. :) go somewhere else thats not the internet since like, idk all the atheists here will debate you I guess? woot. anyway... I made a video about your video that I'm sure you will not watch :) (prove wrong)
Yes, thank you for the laugh too!!! I laughed a lot during the react video! That was hilarious! I did watch it obviously. 38 minutes long. Of course you do realize that this video, nor this channel is an apologetics channel. This video is talking about how to share the Gospel with an atheist. I do have some apologetics videos here. You're welcome to watch them! But your video was great!
@@TheKeesBoerMinistryChannel
*_"This video is talking about how to share the Gospel with(or should I say, run away from) an atheist."_*
*_"Of course you do realize that this video [is not an apologetics video]"_*
You do know what the definition of Apologetics is, don't you?
Apologetics is by definition defending and sharing the Gospel with all. That is exactly what this video is!
Non believers come in many varieties other than atheists. Your answer is to just go "talk to somebody else" when confronted with an atheist. Do you ever ask yourself WWJD before you scamper off??
@@TheKeesBoerMinistryChannel I'm glad you enjoyed it, but I wonder if it made any impact upon you, that is, given that you offer nothing to convince anyone that your ideas are true, why appeal to emotions - do you think that method will work? Is appealing to emotions a good way to know what is or is not true?
@DeconvertedMan Look at your behavior. Is that morally superior? If you are not morally superior, then you are wrong by default.
@@retrotechgames-diyrepair4691 I dont view morals in that way due to ethics - "morally superior" is not something that can be judged in any logical way that I am aware of, however there can be flaws in ethical systems, like DCT has a number of flaws with its system. Clearly the person enjoyed my reaction video. No idea what you are complaining about. But as far as my morals go, I would say they are far better then the god of the bible.