@@harrypotamus4968 If it exist its the newest.The community doesn't have to know. Yes, i answer back two months later.I just didnt care about your reply back then.
Don't forget the fact that Toby put himself in the game as a dog and in the drug store of onett in earthbound you can find a white dog and he tells you he is the creator
I’m not going. To play undertale or be a fan of it after this video because he just copied everything and I thought his game was a great idea and had alot of cool things but he just stole it and he didn’t make the idea him self and the songs are just stolen
@@dinosharttt Inspiring and giving references are really far from stealing. Not even mentioning that these are not the most important parts of the game.
Why? I'm both an Undertale fan and a Touhou fan, the UNDYNE the UNDYING fight is a small nod to Touhou, you have the music, ZUNPETS, Bullet Hell, and difficulty. It's not even close to Touhous, but it gave me a challenge
Undyne’s name itself might also be another reference. I mean sure, you have the Undyne Undying joke but perhaps there’s something else... Water Sign “Princess Undine”, one of Patchouli’s spellcards from EoSD. Water. Undine. Undyne is a fish. Fish live in water.
An Undine is a water nymph, so while you may be correct, it’s also possible that they both drew inspiration from mythology. Edit: Fuck this, it’s probable, not possible.
I have a feeling Toby Fox really likes to recycle some of his own made themes other peoples created themes and make it into something new and I love that kind of creativity
Before fighting Undyne, she says "I, Undyne, will knock you down!" Which is a reference to the first Final Fantasy in which Garland says "I, Garland, will knock you all down!"
Don't forget about the Touhou references on the characters creation: -Frisk and Chara's colours are almost the same as Satori and Koishi, Satori get along with animals and Koishi has a knife (even if Frisk is supposed to be based on Ness) -Papyrus is from a snow level, that we can considerate like the stage 2, and he is dumb, like our Beloved Tomboyish Girl, Cirno the Ice Fairy -Asgore's weapon are similar to Remilia's Gungir Bonus: -On the PS4 version, there is a dog shrine and you can donate, it is like the Hakurei Shrine from Touhou -The whole plot of Undertale is based on Touhou 11: Sealed Youkais underground who want to escaped, creatures who want become as strong as God -Omega Flowey's battle is literaly a bullet hell, but the soul's attacks are like spell cards
Toby Fox is a huge fan of EarthBound like Frisk They all have stripped shirt. -Ninten -Ness -Lucas Memoryhead looks like reference to Giygas' Earthbound also have Flowey
My first intention was to make a video about touhou references and inspiration, since Toby Fox is a big fan. But then i thought to also add other ones from other games.
I feel like you spent TOO much time on Yandere simulator and Touhou Project so I'm going to make a quick list of stuff you missed: 1. The games dialogue itself, has many Earthbound references. Like how Sans says "On days like these, kids like you..." referencing a police officer with the exact same dialogue in Earthbound. 2. Frisk's design is an amalgamation of Ness from Earthbound, and Madotsuki from Yume Nikki. They wear a stripped shirt like Ness and have Asian eyes like Madotsuki. (The yellow skin is a mystery to me) 3. Speaking of Yume Nikki, That "Chill" scene with Nabstablook is an overall homage to Yume Nikki. 4. Sans and Papyrus are oddly similar to two other comic characters named after fonts. It helps that J N Weedle's name is in Papyrus and Sans' credits. 5. Flowey is an ENTIRE can of references. His theme syncs up well with the F.U.N song from Spongebob, most of his and the Amalgamates voice clips, are edited versions of McDonald's commercials, and his iconic laugh is taken from a PS1 game (that I can't name) 6. Once Upon a Time is a reference to the song Mother Earth from (use your best guess) and the opening sequence about the war against humans and monsters, has a very similar story to that of Cave Story 7. The song Determination was actually suppose to have a Zelda 1 game over vibe to it, but Toby was too lazy to change the pitch of the song in FL Studio. 8. The track Thundersnail is an edited sample on FL Studio 9. The hidden song Star has the same soundfont as the original Star Fox 10. Gaster's theme sounds similar to Lavander Town 11. Almost every song that centers the Annoying Dog, was made in Mario Paint. 12. A deticated artist by the name of Michelle Czajkowski (creator of Ava's Demon) donated to a joke tier on the Kickstarter page. That character later went on to be Muffet. Obviously, a reference to the famous nursery rhyme.
Dragoneex yea, I can tell. Since I'm a huge fan of Undertale in general, so I can respect that. I mean I wouldn't blame you. If I made an Undertale reference video, THE AMOUNT of Yume Nikki and Cave Story shit I'd focus on, would drive any fan of those 5 into insanity.
*4:13* Gonna be honest, Justice's theme is most likely based on Terezi's theme. Terezi's theme is probably also based on Bad Apple, but it's closer to being Terezi's because a) Toby did work on Homestuck as we all know b) Terezi is on the Justice tarot card as she is a detective/attorney.
But remember that Toby Fox is a Touhou fan when he was 10, yes even before the Window Touhou era, whereas Toby Fox only started working on Homestuck in the same year EoSD was created.
@@ephraimium6755 The issue is that, while making sense with Terezi's character, it's Toby himself who composed her theme, and it's not the first time Toby references a theme he made in the past for a different project.
Undertale and Touhou fandoms to each other: your game(s) suck ZUN: ah yes a normal day in Gensokyo Toby:They clearly didn't know we are friends, Shrine housewife (they proceed to make themselves drunk and continue working)
Love how almost like 96% of these is Touhou Project, lol. I love both Touhou and Undertale, I didn't know this before, so this made me love both games even more!!
The Okuu and Yatsuhashi references were a bit far fetched. Also the inspiration from asgore's fight was from flan's fight, cranberry trap, rather than UFO.
I love touhou more than undertale but I won't say undertale was a bad game at all. If touhou fans and underale fans could put their difference aside, we could maybe one day see a touhou/undertale crosss over? Im just kidding I doubt that will happen but could be nice.
I like undertale the game as a whole but a large chunk of the community is garbage and ruins it Touhou as a game is really hard (from my standpoint lol) but it’s community is pretty nice and cool, only a small portion of it is hella toxic (basicly none) Overall I’m just a casual gamer who likes to vibe with whatever
Yeah the touhou fanbase is one of the most chill fan bases I have come across. I have rarely seen anyone from the touhou community attacking other people (excluding undertale) unless your are intentionally rocking the boat, even then its only the really salty ones that will pick fights. Any time I have ever seen someone ask "what is touhou?" or "who is x character" or even the dreaded "Is touhou an anime?", the fan base will generally try to answer the question in great detail even linking wiki pages, etc. The community is also really accepting towards people who have never played a touhou game. Infact, I'd say a little over half of the western touhou fan base has never even played a single touhou game. That being said, its probably because of the natural barrier to entry that the touhou series has. You need to know a fair bit of the plot/characters of the popular games (EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF) if you even hope to understand most of the memes and inside jokes of the community. There is also a lot of overlap with the touhou community and the anime community, which is also generally pretty chill as well (excluding the MHA and similar fan bases of course). All of these factors generally attract people who are over the age of 14 making the community more mature as a whole. On the other hand, undertale is way easier compared to touhou and also easier to find (its literally on the front page of steam most of the time) while touhou games are near impossible to find unless you know where to look. Undertale also tends to attract edgy kids who are between the ages of 8 and 12. That group of people are generally not the most friendly which makes the Undertale community pretty toxic. I feel like if you removed everyone under the age of 15 from the Undertale community, it wouldn't be too dissimilar to the touhou community but the small children give the community a bad reputation considering they make up a pretty good majority of it. Anyway, this comment was ment to be short but I ended up writing an entire fucking essay about the touhou and Undertale communitys. TL;DR: the touhou fanbase is chill and nice and the Undertale fanbase is toxic cause of small children
@@RemsHusband That is true. I learned about touhou when i was 16 and people were happy to introduce me to it and talk about it. I was shared songs, lore and even places to find the game.
Fun fact: toby fox worked on homestuck by making music and he actually named kankri and if you listen to his work on the homestuck ost you will hear lot of parts that would be used in undertale
Tsunderplane is a “tsundere” a type of anime girl, it means someone who is madly in love with her love interest (most of the time male protagonist) but tries so hard to hide it from the male protagonist that she on occasion gets violent and says “it’s not like i like you!’
Look up her dialogues in touhou 8 and the ground fighters. She likes to lie, tease people and stuff.and she manipulate borders, including the GAMES borders, she 4th wall breaks just like sans.
Its canon that she often trolls around by stealing Reimu's food right in front of her mouth and barge into Marisa's house without permission by using her gap powers.
I knew a bit of the references shown in the video, but I was not expect a hell of a lot of them, and I was super surprised to see Ace Attorney on there. That’s really cool to see all these references and such
well, he even said that he liked touhou and was an inspiration twitter.com/tobyfox/status/999209960536850433 twitter.com/tobyfox/status/999210405959426048
Hey! Seems you forgot some more: Dating Tense! Is either a reference to Suspense from Ace Attorney or Heavy Rainfall from Pokémon Sapphire And Dating Fight! Is a reference to Pursuit Cornered - Variation, from Ace Attorney.
You forgot AlterniaBound's version of "MeGaLoVania", and "Brodylovania". The original "Megalovania" is based on "Gadobadorrer", Toby also took inspiration from "Megalomania". So, "MEGALOVANIA" is, indirectly, a remix of these two songs.
You could argue that “Your best nightmare” is similar to “Oppa Toby style” in the sense that they are both fast tempo and have a lot of noise at once Edit: you missed a lot of Homestuck stuff
During the fight, spoiler alert, Davepeta turns into a soul and fights lord English as if it was Undertale. Proving that Oppa Toby Style sounds like Your worst nightmares and not the other way around.
Well I don't really get it either.... I think it's really just because ut fans back in 2015 were awful and triggered a lot of touhou fans for saying that bullet hell weren't hard cuz they've beaten sans...also a lot of people came from bad apple and said "hey! It's from ut right?" And other stuff I guess :) But even if I prefer touhou...I loved ut so I don't care about this war X)
The symbols on Toriel and Asriel's outfit has three triangles, if one of the triangle (which is the bellow one) moved to the top (Edit : and rotated 180°), it would looks like Triforce
Lesson to make a very good and legendary RPG game: be only good at composing songs, make the game a huge refrence of your favorite game and every other random game you have seen
i love how you used the fanmade "vriska in a bra" sprite for the homestuck megalo lmao edit: aside from that this contains no homestuck references whatsoever, bruh
I think I found another music similarity in the song Undertale. The melody at 0:58 of "Once Upon a Time" to the rest of the song sounds like the beginning string melody of "Home Marbule" from Chrono Cross.
Not really "butthurt" just saying salty UT fans might be salty about Touhou references in UT (and a lot I've seen myself were, like once someone said Asriel's moves were inspired from Marissa once to a UT fanboy and they were going apeshit) It's just the toxic side of UT haven't found this video yet
I was an earthbound and touhou fan before knowing undertale imagine how I was butthurted when some pf my friends were like: woow this is so original ! Though I don't hate UT its a great game and toby fox has rly good taste like everyone else I'm just annoyed by the fans. I know Its really childish but it's the same feeling as suggesting an anime to a friend he says "heh nope it doesn't interest me" and he come back 2 months later showing you the wish version of it saying it's the greatest game of all time. It just hurts you know...
Everyone talking about tornabout sisters and dating start being similar, but I think I'm the only one who thinks that detention center and bergentrückung sound very similar even if no one is taking about it
I am fairly certain almost every Asriel attack was inspired by Marisa
Except for Hyper Goner, which was inspired from Utsuho
CUZ THEYRE STAR SPAMMERZ!!!
Oh gad...imagine if they worked together-
Asriel is magical at all right?
Dakarai Winters Asriel is magical at all right?
The most powerful proof of the link between both series is that there is (9) letters used to spell Undertale
Cirno is here
The strongest being in gensokyo
It's because she's the strongest
love the reference Haha
THE STRONGEST 9
Toby Fox is Touhou fan. So this is why there are many Touhou references.
@DanzaiGod is already confirmed.
@DanzaiGod no. toby fox already said he is a touhou fan.
@DanzaiGod yes you are confirmed to exist in this astronomical plane of quarks and stuff.
@DanzaiGod ...?
@竜崎 WTF?
Wait it's all a touhou reference?
Toby: Always has been
Nooooo!!!!!!!!!!!
@@balck404 why?
BuT hOw Is ThAt EvEn PoSsIBle?!
@@zoelio999 Actually,Toby is Touhou fan and original danmaku player
@@thenewbie6335 Nah it doesnt matter now i don't like UT Now.
After all my time playing Undertale and Touhou never have i once looked at tsunderplane's hat and say: that looks like the hat Yukari wears XD
I thought it was chitoge kirisaki
I didn't even realize she was wearing a hat in the first place lol...
I remember seeing a diaper hat but not the close resemblance to Yukari's in particular
I never even thought it was a hat... But in retrospect, it does!
Its a hat?
"undertale's version is the newest"
Smash: Hehehe *no*
And thats where you are wrong...
Btw i wont spoil nothin :)
@@elinadali1641 If it hasn't come out yet then it's not the newest
"smash's version is the newest"
Orchestral: Hehehe *no*
@@harrypotamus4968 If it exist its the newest.The community doesn't have to know.
Yes, i answer back two months later.I just didnt care about your reply back then.
Asriel : chaos buster II
Marisa : MASTERRRR SPARKKKKKK
Master Spark is like 3 times stronger, lolk
Master Spark: **covers entire UT fight boundary**
Frisk -_-
@@terra6713 lol,k
Frisk : Dies
Frisk's soul: Daga kotowaru.
sparkuuuuu
Don't forget the fact that Toby put himself in the game as a dog and in the drug store of onett in earthbound you can find a white dog and he tells you he is the creator
I’m not going. To play undertale or be a fan of it after this video because he just copied everything and I thought his game was a great idea and had alot of cool things but he just stole it and he didn’t make the idea him self and the songs are just stolen
@@dinosharttt He didn't copy them, he was inspired by them and decided to base his characters and some of his music off of them.
@@dinosharttt Stealing things and making references of it are two different things
@@dinosharttt Spoken like a true idiot.
@@dinosharttt Inspiring and giving references are really far from stealing. Not even mentioning that these are not the most important parts of the game.
I recently played the Ace Attorney games and when I heard the Tunrabout Sisters theme I knew I had heard something similar before
Same
For me it was the other way around lol 😂.
SAME, I JUST KNEW IT!
I'm pretty sure undertale fans will get triggered because of touhou references
You know that undyne the undying and U.N. Owen was her are similar too
Also you're wrong there
Why?
I'm both an Undertale fan and a Touhou fan, the UNDYNE the UNDYING fight is a small nod to Touhou, you have the music, ZUNPETS, Bullet Hell, and difficulty. It's not even close to Touhous, but it gave me a challenge
@@M1RACLEWEAVER yeah, and for the fact that Toby Fox is a fan of Touhou makes it very solid.
@@demi-yeethus5440
Not to mention
ruclips.net/video/wa2K_8Ff41M/видео.html
ok someone, make that complete darkness x megalovania cover, it sounded awesome
soundcloud.com/pigdevil2010/complete-darkalovania
Thanks~
You're welcome
@@Dragoneex thank you
@@Dragoneex pls upload it on youtube too
Undyne’s name itself might also be another reference. I mean sure, you have the Undyne Undying joke but perhaps there’s something else...
Water Sign “Princess Undine”, one of Patchouli’s spellcards from EoSD. Water. Undine. Undyne is a fish. Fish live in water.
hold up.
i didnt realize her spell card
I also think undyne is somewhat based off meenah, maybe some of vriska too
An Undine is a water nymph, so while you may be correct, it’s also possible that they both drew inspiration from mythology.
Edit: Fuck this, it’s probable, not possible.
he named her undyne to make it
undyne the undying
Undyne also refers to a mythological story of a water nymph.
I have a feeling Toby Fox really likes to recycle some of his own made themes other peoples created themes and make it into something new and I love that kind of creativity
He took a page out of Itoi's book on making music
Is that a Marisa reference?
Because Marisa steals spell cards and change it's design or make it more stronger or better.
Before fighting Undyne, she says "I, Undyne, will knock you down!" Which is a reference to the first Final Fantasy in which Garland says "I, Garland, will knock you all down!"
Isnt it “strike” and not “knock”
@@EasternStory same thing
@@pedr2061 to knock is to hit with a blunt object, while to strike is to attack with all your might
i read "I, Gabriel, Shall rend you apart!"
@@TheTlankultrakill
Song: Best Nightmare
Touhou fans: No, that’s just a good dream
Ooooohhhh yeea
Don't forget about the Touhou references on the characters creation:
-Frisk and Chara's colours are almost the same as Satori and Koishi, Satori get along with animals and Koishi has a knife (even if Frisk is supposed to be based on Ness)
-Papyrus is from a snow level, that we can considerate like the stage 2, and he is dumb, like our Beloved Tomboyish Girl, Cirno the Ice Fairy
-Asgore's weapon are similar to Remilia's Gungir
Bonus:
-On the PS4 version, there is a dog shrine and you can donate, it is like the Hakurei Shrine from Touhou
-The whole plot of Undertale is based on Touhou 11: Sealed Youkais underground who want to escaped, creatures who want become as strong as God
-Omega Flowey's battle is literaly a bullet hell, but the soul's attacks are like spell cards
Tulipia5 that’s interesting
Toby Fox is a huge fan of EarthBound like Frisk
They all have stripped shirt.
-Ninten
-Ness
-Lucas
Memoryhead looks like reference to Giygas'
Earthbound also have Flowey
Forced referrals
so does that mean that Pap is ⑨ IQ?
Komeji*
Koishi and Komeiji Satori(surname) maidens
Deltarune has a graze mechanic
Yup. As soon as I saw it I immediately thought of Touhou. And then I remember there will be a lot of references and I ain't wrong.
Egotistical II I always thought of it as more Len'en rather than Touhou because it builds up a meter and stuff.
Didn't know that it looks like Toby Fanboying again
Grazing in deltarune gives tp while in 2hu it gives Points for risking ur life
@@ephraimium6755 what? no it's especially in TH15 ^^"
Im getting a feeling that every references in undertale *must be a touhou project reference* from what you're saying
My first intention was to make a video about touhou references and inspiration, since Toby Fox is a big fan. But then i thought to also add other ones from other games.
Undertale fans seeing the touhou references. I already smell the salt.
RubyFish after a long time, I don't see
Wtf does salt smell like?
@@taylorfaulk7870 like salt. Did you never smell it?
This is getting SALTy.can you two stop?
Actually, UT fans dont even know that game lmfao, the only butthurt people here are touhou fans
2:54
THATS THE GREATEST SONG IVE EVER HEARD
I want a full version!
Same!
It is in soundcloud
@@likeomega6136 the name?
@@orionmcbear Darkalovania
I feel like you spent TOO much time on Yandere simulator and Touhou Project so I'm going to make a quick list of stuff you missed:
1. The games dialogue itself, has many Earthbound references. Like how Sans says "On days like these, kids like you..." referencing a police officer with the exact same dialogue in Earthbound.
2. Frisk's design is an amalgamation of Ness from Earthbound, and Madotsuki from Yume Nikki. They wear a stripped shirt like Ness and have Asian eyes like Madotsuki. (The yellow skin is a mystery to me)
3. Speaking of Yume Nikki, That "Chill" scene with Nabstablook is an overall homage to Yume Nikki.
4. Sans and Papyrus are oddly similar to two other comic characters named after fonts. It helps that J N Weedle's name is in Papyrus and Sans' credits.
5. Flowey is an ENTIRE can of references. His theme syncs up well with the F.U.N song from Spongebob, most of his and the Amalgamates voice clips, are edited versions of McDonald's commercials, and his iconic laugh is taken from a PS1 game (that I can't name)
6. Once Upon a Time is a reference to the song Mother Earth from (use your best guess) and the opening sequence about the war against humans and monsters, has a very similar story to that of Cave Story
7. The song Determination was actually suppose to have a Zelda 1 game over vibe to it, but Toby was too lazy to change the pitch of the song in FL Studio.
8. The track Thundersnail is an edited sample on FL Studio
9. The hidden song Star has the same soundfont as the original Star Fox
10. Gaster's theme sounds similar to Lavander Town
11. Almost every song that centers the Annoying Dog, was made in Mario Paint.
12. A deticated artist by the name of Michelle Czajkowski (creator of Ava's Demon) donated to a joke tier on the Kickstarter page. That character later went on to be Muffet. Obviously, a reference to the famous nursery rhyme.
In yandere simulator i found those things by accident, and about touhou.. Yeah i'm a big fan XD
Maybe i will make a part 2 adding this list
Dragoneex yea, I can tell. Since I'm a huge fan of Undertale in general, so I can respect that. I mean I wouldn't blame you. If I made an Undertale reference video, THE AMOUNT of Yume Nikki and Cave Story shit I'd focus on, would drive any fan of those 5 into insanity.
Dragoneex I mean, if you'd like to. You should never start a project you know you're not going to finish.
Kouroshie Yoshi baka 9
Toby Fox Stole The Precious ZUNpet
-Don't kill me-
@@naughtymidnight585 shut up crunch triggered sans fangirl
@@fatherthornell8887 no you, Uno reverse card
@@fatherthornell8887 and i dont like undertale,i just make a joke from word Dont Kill me of Raquel089
Can I have a gun
Naughty midnight shut up
Toby fox
I do not know if I call him lazy or GENIUS.
Josué ARTeiro Why not both?
Hmm...
so Sans is basically the reincarnation of Toby?
Lazy, genius?
Smarter, not harder.
He could be both.
Lazinius
Or both
I played Undertale because of Touhou. Thanks, for bringing me to this masterpiece.
Same lolk (omg touhou reference !!! Legacy of lunatic kingdom!!!!!)
0.2% Random stuff
0.8% Earthbound
*99% TOUHOU PROJECT*
You really are going to call those other games “random stuff”...
@@tantris2876 bruh
I mean
Toby is a huge Touhou fan
*4:13* Gonna be honest, Justice's theme is most likely based on Terezi's theme. Terezi's theme is probably also based on Bad Apple, but it's closer to being Terezi's because a) Toby did work on Homestuck as we all know b) Terezi is on the Justice tarot card as she is a detective/attorney.
But remember that Toby Fox is a Touhou fan when he was 10, yes even before the Window Touhou era, whereas Toby Fox only started working on Homestuck in the same year EoSD was created.
hehe 413
@@oofcos4669 nice
@@ephraimium6755 The issue is that, while making sense with Terezi's character, it's Toby himself who composed her theme, and it's not the first time Toby references a theme he made in the past for a different project.
There sure are a lot of touhou references that I didn't spot, nice video
Undertale and Touhou fandoms to each other: your game(s) suck
ZUN: ah yes a normal day in Gensokyo
Toby:They clearly didn't know we are friends, Shrine housewife
(they proceed to make themselves drunk and continue working)
Frisk and Madotsuki (Yume Nikki) also have a similar facial expression, closed eyes and straight mouth
Whoa I was surprised by that megalovania with touhou 2 music it feels really something different
Fact: Battle Agaisnt A True Hero was actually a collab between ZUN and Toby Fox
Indeed the Bloody _ZUNPETS_ got me gud
@@unowenwashere2782 it is
@@magmakun9277 good day to be not ded :D
Shoot strange birl and trúe hero 'secuencia similar
Guess what lmao
Undyne is "inspired of Satori's spell card, Recollection "Princess Undine"
Actually originally it's Patchouli's spell card [Water Sign "Princess Undine"]
Yeahz, satori copies moves, meaning its from patchiouli.
I mean, princess undine is based of other mythos. Cant quite remember which one though
patchouli's spellcard from eosd
I thought that when I played eosd too
Junko is on lunatic season
"It's Chang'e season!"
"No, Reisen season!"
hecatia laughing in the corner
and clownpiece is like 😓
Love how almost like 96% of these is Touhou Project, lol.
I love both Touhou and Undertale, I didn't know this before, so this made me love both games even more!!
2:53 best coincidences of videogames
The Okuu and Yatsuhashi references were a bit far fetched. Also the inspiration from asgore's fight was from flan's fight, cranberry trap, rather than UFO.
U mean Benben?
The character was benben’s sister, named Yatsuhashi. Can agree both are somewhat far fetched
I love touhou more than undertale but I won't say undertale was a bad game at all. If touhou fans and underale fans could put their difference aside, we could maybe one day see a touhou/undertale crosss over? Im just kidding I doubt that will happen but could be nice.
I like undertale the game as a whole but a large chunk of the community is garbage and ruins it
Touhou as a game is really hard (from my standpoint lol) but it’s community is pretty nice and cool, only a small portion of it is hella toxic (basicly none)
Overall I’m just a casual gamer who likes to vibe with whatever
Yeah the touhou fanbase is one of the most chill fan bases I have come across. I have rarely seen anyone from the touhou community attacking other people (excluding undertale) unless your are intentionally rocking the boat, even then its only the really salty ones that will pick fights. Any time I have ever seen someone ask "what is touhou?" or "who is x character" or even the dreaded "Is touhou an anime?", the fan base will generally try to answer the question in great detail even linking wiki pages, etc. The community is also really accepting towards people who have never played a touhou game. Infact, I'd say a little over half of the western touhou fan base has never even played a single touhou game. That being said, its probably because of the natural barrier to entry that the touhou series has. You need to know a fair bit of the plot/characters of the popular games (EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF) if you even hope to understand most of the memes and inside jokes of the community. There is also a lot of overlap with the touhou community and the anime community, which is also generally pretty chill as well (excluding the MHA and similar fan bases of course). All of these factors generally attract people who are over the age of 14 making the community more mature as a whole. On the other hand, undertale is way easier compared to touhou and also easier to find (its literally on the front page of steam most of the time) while touhou games are near impossible to find unless you know where to look. Undertale also tends to attract edgy kids who are between the ages of 8 and 12. That group of people are generally not the most friendly which makes the Undertale community pretty toxic. I feel like if you removed everyone under the age of 15 from the Undertale community, it wouldn't be too dissimilar to the touhou community but the small children give the community a bad reputation considering they make up a pretty good majority of it.
Anyway, this comment was ment to be short but I ended up writing an entire fucking essay about the touhou and Undertale communitys.
TL;DR: the touhou fanbase is chill and nice and the Undertale fanbase is toxic cause of small children
@@RemsHusband That is true. I learned about touhou when i was 16 and people were happy to introduce me to it and talk about it. I was shared songs, lore and even places to find the game.
hell zun and toby get along and the fans fail that
Demon, you deny the Great Journey?
Toriel says "Don't worry about me. Someone needs to worry about these flowers." It's similar to a line said in Final Fantasy crisis core.
“Undertale’s version is the newest”
I think that didn’t age well at all.
Fun fact: toby fox worked on homestuck by making music and he actually named kankri and if you listen to his work on the homestuck ost you will hear lot of parts that would be used in undertale
I don't think Junko's spellcard similarities with undyne's attack are a reference cuz legacy of lunatic kingdom came after undertale
Lolk came before, lolk
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this has convinced me, Undertale is just a really elaborate Touhou fan game
I played Touhou before playing Undertale and when I finally played Undertale and battled Asriel, I felt like it was familiar
I love ma zunpets
Tsunderplane is a “tsundere” a type of anime girl, it means someone who is madly in love with her love interest (most of the time male protagonist) but tries so hard to hide it from the male protagonist that she on occasion gets violent and says “it’s not like i like you!’
I Know this is 3 yrs ago
Imo,
Boys
Can
Be
A
Tsundre
The Megalovania mashup surprisingly sounds good to me
14:51 LMAO I LAUGHED SO HARD
0:40 WTF the hat is sooooo similar, it looks the same
Yukari is not a troll.... and she teleports with “gap”
I mean she kinda is well from fanon atleast but they both share the laziness and very high amount of power behind that laziness
Look up her dialogues in touhou 8 and the ground fighters. She likes to lie, tease people and stuff.and she manipulate borders, including the GAMES borders, she 4th wall breaks just like sans.
Its canon that she often trolls around by stealing Reimu's food right in front of her mouth and barge into Marisa's house without permission by using her gap powers.
Yukari *is* a troll and it still being teleport.
When you're literally one of the most powerful characters in fiction and know it, you're bound to be a massive troll.
Damnnn I need that Complete Darkness and Megalovania Mashup, it sounds epic!
Yeah
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the fact that the *green* soul's beginning is similar to koishi's theme and green represents koishi makes everything better
I knew a bit of the references shown in the video, but I was not expect a hell of a lot of them, and I was super surprised to see Ace Attorney on there.
That’s really cool to see all these references and such
Undertale is most of t o u h o u R e f e r e n c e s? W o w.
well, he even said that he liked touhou and was an inspiration
twitter.com/tobyfox/status/999209960536850433
twitter.com/tobyfox/status/999210405959426048
well it is.
I'm pretty sure there is jojo references in undertale
Like chara say ORA when frisk rip of the punch card
Or entire mad dummy
Jojo's bizzare adventure was made after Undertale was released.
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Is that supposed to be a joke?
@@magdammmagdadimitropoulou6063 jojo existed even before ut was released. The manga went back all the way to 1986.
@@magdammmagdadimitropoulou6063 lmao the manga was released like the late 1980s
@@magdammmagdadimitropoulou6063 um....jjba came out around 1987 undertale fans always say that they're game came out first....
Im not the fan of touhou but touhou is the hardast gams
Because you never play that game
Lol
very
very
hard.
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That's very true!
Especially LoLK
Ziestosti / I love ClownPiece.
Very
Very
True.
Toby is an touhou fan though
Me see sans in yandere simulation
Also me : -._-.
More like
-._.-
Fun fact: There's also a Cirno mode in Yandere Simulator
@@ephraimium6755 everybody knows 🤯
istg Undyne's theme could fit really well as a Touhou theme
Hey! Seems you forgot some more:
Dating Tense! Is either a reference to Suspense from Ace Attorney or Heavy Rainfall from Pokémon Sapphire
And Dating Fight! Is a reference to Pursuit Cornered - Variation, from Ace Attorney.
Im pretty sure asgore theme also references "mist" from persona 4
"Wait, it's all a touhou reference?"
"Always has been"
Toby did say touhou was a big inspiration for him
Wow really? OwO
@@afiq_nightwalker714 He wrote that on Twitter
You forgot AlterniaBound's version of "MeGaLoVania", and "Brodylovania".
The original "Megalovania" is based on "Gadobadorrer", Toby also took inspiration from "Megalomania".
So, "MEGALOVANIA" is, indirectly, a remix of these two songs.
Those projectiles at 10:36 remind me of celebration mk2 from terraria, even though it was added years after undertale’s release
You could argue that “Your best nightmare” is similar to “Oppa Toby style” in the sense that they are both fast tempo and have a lot of noise at once
Edit: you missed a lot of Homestuck stuff
4:04 Terezi's theme maybe
Oopa Toby style came out after undertale, might be a reference to undertale and not the other way around
During the fight, spoiler alert, Davepeta turns into a soul and fights lord English as if it was Undertale. Proving that Oppa Toby Style sounds like Your worst nightmares and not the other way around.
Games mentioned:
*Homestuck*
HomeStuck Isnt A Game Its A Story
@@MewMathGamerin thats the whole point of my joke
9:33 someone might mentioned this already but the attack pattern is also similar to one of sanae's spellcard in mountain of faith
Confused with the Undertale Vs Touhou fans thing
I got into Undertale first but I'm in love with both after getting into Touhou recently uou
Well I don't really get it either....
I think it's really just because ut fans back in 2015 were awful and triggered a lot of touhou fans for saying that bullet hell weren't hard cuz they've beaten sans...also a lot of people came from bad apple and said "hey! It's from ut right?"
And other stuff I guess :)
But even if I prefer touhou...I loved ut so I don't care about this war X)
@@echo6657 i'm fan of touhou and im not joining those conflict too
@@echo6657 no it's because UT fans claimed Bad Apple and stereotyped a lot of things about Touhou
tbh I'm confuse at hell some people still saying touhou copy undertail bruh
how is this even possible when some of the touhou games came out waay before undertale
What about Papyrus' first design being inspired by Dedan from OFF? This is a confirmed fact from the artbook btw don't sue me
For Undyne's theme piano&trumpet part I think I heard Cute Devil ~ Innocence from Touhou 4
Asgore's theme has similar tune to Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney - Jailer's Elegy.
Nah
The symbols on Toriel and Asriel's outfit has three triangles, if one of the triangle (which is the bellow one) moved to the top (Edit : and rotated 180°), it would looks like Triforce
*TLOZ THEME STARTS PLAYING*
10:34 This one reminds more of Byakuren's Star Maelstrom/Magic Milk Way
Lesson to make a very good and legendary RPG game: be only good at composing songs, make the game a huge refrence of your favorite game and every other random game you have seen
Undertale is a good game but as a rpg, its very bad
i love how you used the fanmade "vriska in a bra" sprite for the homestuck megalo lmao
edit: aside from that this contains no homestuck references whatsoever, bruh
The Yandere Simulator at the end made me laugh like hell because I saw no actual reason for adding it
Friend(tm)ly reminder: Mima is also the trolly one in Touhou
i was actaully surprised by the ace attorney refrence
Toby fox stole the noise master theme
FROM HIMSELF
Finally literally nobody else has pointed out that they’re both made by Toby
The enemy Loox says "Please don't pick on me." It's similar to a line said in final fantasy which the line was "QUIT PICKING ON ME!"
2:53 oh, Oh... *OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
the ZUNpets go brrr with SD-90 and SC-88 machine
Okay lets just compare sariel to toriel
A better comparison would definitely be Asriel. Sariel. Asriel. Both are angels of death.
undertale fans when they realised it's all a touhou reference
I think I found another music similarity in the song Undertale. The melody at 0:58 of "Once Upon a Time" to the rest of the song sounds like the beginning string melody of "Home Marbule" from Chrono Cross.
5:38 I thought it was a reference of Yukari's theme (Necrofantasia)
How do you hear necrofantasia
Is that r34 of Vriska?
I'm pretty confused
Anka idk i found it on Google
Dragoneex Yeah, understandable, I guess.
It’s not.
its an official picture of vriska i think. its used a lot in megalovania comparison videos (i ahvent read homestuck)
"There are four versions of Megalovania"
Anyone coming here after Sans became a mii costume: There is another
Undertale is basically Touhou but for beginners
Kinda
basically meiling easy modo
yep, play UT n then got yell by 2 bunny girl
Imagines UT fans saying that UT fangames are harder before watching some CAVE-likes Touhou fangames...
Undertale fans when they thought Yume Nikki was released in 2018:
according to the description, homestuck is a game.
Fun fact: there are more butthurt Touhou fans down here than that of UT.
never understood the rivalry between the two fanbases.
Not really "butthurt" just saying salty UT fans might be salty about Touhou references in UT (and a lot I've seen myself were, like once someone said Asriel's moves were inspired from Marissa once to a UT fanboy and they were going apeshit) It's just the toxic side of UT haven't found this video yet
@@catsquaredd they’re just two bullet hell games
@@skepbeans two bullet hell games with different mechanics... yes
I was an earthbound and touhou fan before knowing undertale imagine how I was butthurted when some pf my friends were like: woow this is so original !
Though I don't hate UT its a great game and toby fox has rly good taste like everyone else I'm just annoyed by the fans. I know Its really childish but it's the same feeling as suggesting an anime to a friend he says "heh nope it doesn't interest me" and he come back 2 months later showing you the wish version of it saying it's the greatest game of all time. It just hurts you know...
Why didn't you mention the windows (and more stuff) with legend of Zelda decorations?
Everyone talking about tornabout sisters and dating start being similar, but I think I'm the only one who thinks that detention center and bergentrückung sound very similar even if no one is taking about it
6:01 this song seems familiar...
Where did I hear it?.. I think Sonic.exe?
i'm learning more about undertale and toby's inspiration the more i delve deeper into it.
Now makes sense was have the feeling what Undyne the Undying theme would fit in touhou...
Don't forget that Toby Fox drank beer with ZUN
lmao the power bracelet part killed me