Can the NFL work in London? American Football in England?!
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- Ninh explains 'Can the NFL work in London'? Due to the popular NFL International Series held in Wembley Stadium, London - United Kingdom. There is serious debate and speculation whether a National Football League franchise could move there permanently.
Ninh examines financial viability, demand, UK fans and also discusses barriers, such as Los Angeles, long distance, long logistics, and the Jacksonville Jaguars or St Louis fans that prevent the move to London, United Kingdom.
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The Mexican City Aztecs sounds awesome.
+CipactlitheEater Sdd It does, doesn't it? Shame that it'll probably never come true! Thanks for stopping by, be sure to share this video and subscribe :)
San Diego State uses that name.
AndrewLuis CrespoDeMoura is it wrong that the NY Giants of the NFL and the San Francisco Giants of the MLB both have the same team name?
I'm person
no. there's also an mlb team called the st. louis cardinals and an nfl team called the arizona cardinals
I'm person
and you know what else is bizzare? the denver broncos nfl and the boise state broncos (college) use the same colors! blue and orange. except the coloros are inverted with home games ( uniform is mostely blue and orange helmet)
Have an American league and a European league and the champions of both have a massive game at the end
In theory yes. Practically, the Americans would paste the Europeans every single game.
Ninh Ly for the first few years, definitely, but I have seen some amazing UK play. The skill is there, it's just that Europe need to learn playbooks, if they can do that, it's fair game.
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James Lucy the issue is “the first few years” would be literally dozens of years. I say this when looking at America which is by far the second most competitive country in American Football and doesn’t even come close. I mean in America almost every university has a football team(there is hundreds of college football teams). In Canada there’s like 30 and I’m not even exaggerating how small that number is.
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Some athletes on American sports teams complain about having to make the trip to Canada, let alone London...
+Nicholas Garcia That's right! So London would be major complaint for these players. Besides, it's probably not going to happen anyway ...
I heard one NFL employee state that over half of their players have never been outside of the US, so they actually have a bit of a logistical challenge in getting players passports before going to the UK or Canada.
Logan Krupa That doesn't really surprise me! This adds an extra layer of complexity to the already complicated matter of the NFL in London (or any foreign country). Thanks for stopping by, be sure to share this video and subscribe :)
If any country is getting an NFL franchise first, It is probably going to be either Canada (in Toronto) or Mexico (in Mexico City)
+Colin Lebold I wholeheartedly agree! I think it'd be silly to try and put a franchise in London without at least exploring the idea of the NFL in Canada or Mexico. The Bills in Toronto Series was a complete disaster, so that appears to be dead in the water. Thanks for stopping by, be sure to share this video and subscribe :)
Ninh Ly already done, mate!
Colin Lebold Cheers Colin, much appreciated! Ninh.
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actually, in mexico american football is already rising in popularity, mostly in colleges, I live in a small city that people don't even know about unless you go to san blas on vacaction, but all three universities here have their own american football team, teams from monterrey, mexico city, guadalajara and other major cities have teams of almost the same cuality of any other college football team in the united states. rugby is also getting some popularity here, their are a few coaches who want to get some of the americanfootball players to play offseason rugby so the team can get some recognition from the state
Los Angeles isn't a problem anymore
Yup, this video was made before the Rams moved to LA.
Most likely they will be an European league and here are some cities that could have teams
London
Dublin
Paris
Versailles
Munich
Berlin
Warsaw
Kiev
Madrid
Barcelona
Rome
Athens
Sarajevo
Belgrade
Athens
Oslo
Copenhagen
Helsinki
Stockholm
Moscow
Sofia
Istanbul
Ankara
Lisbon
Amsterdam
Brussels
Sochi?
Baku?
Volgograd?
Leningrad?
St Petersburg
That's just at the top of my head
*A European league
+Mrchips469 Leningrad is St Petersburg
+Lovre Toman face palm for my ignorance
Vienna
Budapest
Naples
Venice
Yerevan
Zagreb
Minsk
Bucharest
+Mrchips469 There was a European league (NFL Europe) and it was a disaster. Nice idea though. Please share this video and subscribe :)
Why hasn't there been an NFL team in canada yet, you'd have thought that they would've have one by now given that canada has had its own gridiron league for decades!
jub672 and bigger balls lol
I think the Toronto Bills could work, although it would make the pun of "Buffalo Bills" no longer work
Supposedly it's kind of a unspoken agreement they won't encroach on others turf, hell the NFL network broadcasts CFL games in the summer here and vice versa
@Lightning McQueen Gaming yes, yes they did. it did not work. but we have alliances with almost every single Gridiron football league in Europe and with Mexico where we can draft players from those countries now
You're so underrated. Your vids are awesome man
+Sena Kobayakawa Thanks Sean! I appreciate the comments. I've not had time to make them recently, though I am trying!
Yeah well a away team in London has a 5 hour time difference witch will hurt them play.
That's not the biggest problem ... there are way too many problems for a team to be based in London right now. Maybe in a decades time, perhaps. But certainly not right now ... which is what the video was intended to show.
Astilacien if they start at 1 pm et then it will be 6 pm in London or 9:30 et then it will be 2:30 there
Did you know that in soccer, 5 of the 20 teams in the Premier League are in London? And, each of these teams have their own stadium. There are also lower level (minor league) teams there as well. Manchester has 2 PL teams. 19 of the 20 PL teams are based in England, and the Cardiff City team is in Wales.
Astilacien 8 hrs for pacific
the reason Wembley sells out is because there is only 2-3 games a year and therefore quite special. I personally don't think if it was a permanent stadium it would attract 90,000 people a week
An NFL team only has 8 home games per season. That's not too much more than the 3 that they're currently holding. Besides, fans from other teams, tourists (and those rich corporate types) would certainly fill in any shortfall.
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hmm,I'm showing my ignorance here, but I thought there would be more games :/. I still don't think it would work for one team to play all there games there. If there were to be 8 games, I think the best thing to do is to work out how all teams could play just 1 game over here to keep all fans happy.
charltonw Ah, there could be more games if the team makes the play-offs. But assume those will be sold out.
That's the argument isn't it? How do you get every other team to play here (and a London-based to play in the US) without ruining their schedules and wrecking them with jet-lag? The answer: with extreme difficulty.
Personally, I don't think they'll bother. They'll do what the NBA has done and host a select number of regular season games across the world. I think the NBA calls them 'The Global Games', so expect to see this rather than a London-based team.
Preciate the quality video. was very informative and entertaining. and I'm pleased to see the sport gain so much interest in other countries!
Thank Ninh, I apprecaite all of the videos that you make. They're quite impartial, entertaining, informative and concise. Cheers mate!
Anthony from Australia
+AnthonyP1991 Hi Anthony, thanks for the compliments. I've been struggling to make videos recently, but I'll be back soon. Be sure to share these videos and subscribe :)
Can't they have some sort of second division league in the uk/Ireland?
Hi Evan Taylor
Technically they already tried that. In the early 90's, the NFL had a developmental league called 'NFL Europe' - the London Monarchs were the first World Bowl Champions.
But that league ended up dying a horrible death.
Whilst the UK has an American Football league 'the BAFL', it's light years behind the system in the US.
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Ninh Ly is it possible that the American teams come in the off-season to Londen and UK? If they wanna use Premier Leugue used stadium they must come over in the summer, are they available then? Or they use Wembley (only national team) and Twickingham stadium (rugby national stadium).
Can you also look into the new stadium of football Premier Leugue club Tottenham hotspur? They make it also an American Football-use stadium. And they say they have a contract with American football clubs for games. Seems like the market in london is very much hungry for American Football.
The time difference could be difficult but good idea, I do like American Football but never could support a team due to them being in America.
Not just time difference Alex, Jet-lag is a horrible thing to deal with!
I think the NFL will just keep hosting International series games without having to move a franchise here permanently. They're making too much money to quit now.
great video, especially for someone like me who is writing an essay on this topic, thank you very much.
Mkhuseli Moyo Thanks man - I appreciate the comments!
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Last year I was flying from Berlin to London the day before a Wembley NFL game. The plane was packed with American football fans going to the game. There is a lot of American football across Europe right now - Germany and UK especially. With smart city selection, I think a revived NFL Europe would do well as a developmental league. With opportunities to cultivate local talent and increase local fanbases, eventually it could grow into something self-sustainable.
Absolutely! Fans go nuts for the NFL over here.
As for a revived NFL Europe - I'm not sure it would have the same impact as the NFL itself. If you had NFL teams playing locally based NFL teams (i.e London Monarchs vs Dallas Cowboys, Berlin Thunder vs New England Patriots), I think that would draw up quite well.
Better to make an actual European league if there's enough players.
Wasnt there a NFL Europe? AFAIK, that crumbled.
Theres still the Eurobowl, though. But thats only supported by the cities that play in it.
There was an NFL Europe that sort of acted as a minor league/developmental system for the NFL. It didn't last.
They tried that already. There simply isn't the grass roots interest.....there's about 15 other sports British people could play before they even consider gridiron.
Its actually pretty popular here, If you read up "Britball" youll see a whole range. Even typing in BAFANL Or BAFA will bring up the British American Football Association, and the sheer amount of teams we have
ViciousPiano No it's not it's on the same level as baseball over here because nobody bothers with the two of them
the most popular American sport over here is Basket Ball and then Ice hockey because they actually get media coverage
Besides American Football is shit it's only big in America and nowhere else that is a fact, Football ( Soccer ) is the most popular sport in the world after all it's the world's game
"Jets fans don't even wanna watch their team." So true (this coming from a Jets fan)
I feel sorry for Jets fans - you'd think Woody Johnson wouldn't allow this shit to happen on his watch, but it seemingly has. And there's no end in sight, not for the next few years anyway.
Browns fans however - no sympathy for you.
@5:05 I love the Blitz the League II reference.
Well spotted - I think you're the only one that noticed that one.
But there's lots of references to a lot of other things in this video :)
I'm offended that you have so few subscribers. Your videos are great :)
MrCommentator I'm offended too! I'm sure given enough time, I'll get more subscribers. Thanks for the vote of confidence, I appreciate it a lot! Be share this video and subscribe if you haven't already :)
"Dallas is America's team" YOU TAKE THAT BACK!
- A Redskins Fan
That's what they're called?
I'm surprised you've never heard of the Washington Redskins. They have the 2nd largest stadium in the NFL, and are one of the oldest teams. Redskins and Cowboys have had a large rivalry for years now, and that's why I commented.
And yeah, the name: in the modern era, it's been brought up many times whether the name should change. There's so much money in this particular team that I don't think it's ever going to happen.
Yeah more like Amerika's team
Matt N I think he means that that's Cowboys' nickname.
Matt N he meant "America's team" is the nickname for the Cowboys
I didnt know Europeans liked the NFL. Interesting.
We do indeed!
Theres more Germans at the London games than Jags fans!
Great video very entertaining , great photo of you two in Wembley ! I was thinking about your point regarding logistics. I think maybe the London team could play two away games in the US and then 2 at home , the NFL could schedule it so a team goes on a bye week before travelling to play the London team to aid in recovery after a long haul flight , it probably won't happen but if the NFL is serious about expanding it to a world stage it could be done.
+Matthew Boyle That was the idea that the experts suggest. Playing several weeks at home and several on the road. It's a logistical nightmare, as all the teams would have to bend over backwards to accommodate London's schedule. Something that the NFL owners wouldn't necessarily agree with.
u got the point man...good job
+rahman rot Thanks Rahman, I appreciate the comment. Be sure to share this video and subscribe :)
I have to respectfully disagree about the popularity of NFL in England in terms of supporting a team. It's one thing to spend a lot of money to go to one game a year that is a novelty and you aren't really backing one team or the other but instead mainly going for the spectacle. It's quite another thing to have an actual team which needs to sell out 8 games + preseason and the likelihood that the team would be similar to an expansion team and would likely suck. Then you'll see how truly difficult it is to support a lousy team you have to watch play week after week.
Sorry Vladimir, but NFL support in England is real. Ordinarily I'd agree with your very accurate points, but I've seen this for myself. Yes, some people go just for 'novelty', but most go because they like the NFL or support a specific team.
I've seen how the Jacksonville Jaguars have marketed their team up and down the country and have unofficially become 'England's Team'. They have their own UK based fan clubs, throw their own UK based Superbowl parties, and even offer discounts on flight and hotel packages to watch the Jaguars in Jacksonville.
I've never seen so many Jaguars fans walk the streets during the last two years. According the NFLUK's latest poll, the Jaguars are the country's #2 supported team.
The Jaguars stink! But the support is still there.
There's no question that it could work. But the fact that there's a boatload of obstacles in the way of a team moving here, means that it probably won't happen soon.
Just like I said to another user: the reason question you have to ask yourself is: if LA gets a team, who will make the move? The Rams, Raiders or Jaguars? And furthermore if the Jaguars make the move, does that all but end a London NFL team?
The thing is the fanbase its unlikely that the fanbase in london is going to be enough on its own so most of the fanbase will be outside london are they going to support a london team i doubt it and if they did its unlikely they will be able to go to every home game.Many americanfootball fans this side of the pond have developed allegiances to teams already.In ireland people support english premiership teams much more strongly than the league of ireland and something similar might happen with a london franchise though the quality of teams will be the same
The Problem with the majority of people who say its a stupid idea or it work work. Is that you guys think to big. NO ONE and I mean NO ONE, is expecting the NFL to take over Europe and be the biggest thing ever. The Premiere league is top dog and will always be over in Europe just like how the NFL is top dog over here in the states.
This move is about expanding the game and marketing. The NFL made NFL Europe at a time when not even the NFL was the top sports league in America. This is a different story, we are talking about 1 team with the support of the actual NFL office to move. They just want 1 team to be over in London to build a fan base and it can work. There is no question that it can work and that they can build a fan base especially with the younger audience, like he says in the video its about actually doing it.
+Thekingcmk I couldn't have said it better myself! Yes you're right ... it can work. The real question is "will it?" and I highly doubt that they will make the move. Thanks for stopping by, be sure to share this video and subscribe :)
the premiere league has Europe? what about La leaga. Real vs Barc is a huge game day. I don't even follow soccer but I know this some how. Nowadays it seems as Real Madrid, Barc, Bayern Munich, PSG are better than Manchester U. than again I'm not a soccer follower
+timmy D= The point was just a comparison to the expectations of the NFL. American Football will always be the top sport in America where Soccer will always be the top sport in Europe. That doesn't mean both sports cant grow and make money. MLS is no where close to what the top 4 do in America(Football,Hockey, Baseball, Basketball) but its growing. The NFL can do the same in Europe with at least 1 team in London.
I personally dont think it will happen soon just because of the disputes of logistics especially with the Union wanting more and more money every year. "IF" it did happen there could easily be a stable enough environment in London.
Watched it live on tv. Felt like watching the news with all the reporters and analysts.
Yeah it can get that way sometimes.
great little video!
+Rob Green Thanks for stopping by Rob, be sure to share this video and subscribe :)
Hawaii or New Mexico should have an NFL team Hawaii has a college team
Hawaii - almost the same problems as London in terms of time zone difference, but none of the bureaucratic government crap. However, is there a market out there for it? Same with New Mexico. Is it a populous area full of millions with readily disposable income like LA or London? Probably not.
I was one who was skeptical of football catching on in the UK and it being nothing more than a novelty. A recent study (Repucom) done though shows that interest in the NFL has gone from 8.1% of the UK population in 2011 to 12.3% in 2013. Now what is defined as _interest_ and whether these figures can be vetted is not known, however, all things being equal, this does look promising.
That said, I agree, with the 2nd biggest city in the nation not having a team, I would find it hard to believe that LA would get a team after London, new team or not. Even if the NFL wanted to expand the current number of teams, there are still a lot other major cities domestically other than LA that don't have teams such as San Antonio and Portland.
Also, a lot of UK fans already have their NFL teams so would they jump ship and support a London team?
One thing that should be established in the UK is a grass roots program starting from the youth levels like Pop Warner & high school. This will not only build a more knowledgeable and football hungry fan base but they'll have potential D1 college (D1 college players would still have to play in the States to get prepped for the NFL) players and maybe potential NFL stars.
Hey shinlanten
I think you've hit the nail on the head!
You're absolutely right, and furthermore: one of the few people on RUclips that actually understands the reality of this situation. Yes, it would be an absolute shocker if London got a team before places like LA or San Antonio. And without expansion - it won't happen ever.
As for UK fans jumping ship and supporting a London team, it's debatable isn't it? I think the catchment for a potential London team would be to capitalise on new fans as opposed to converting existing ones, like the Jaguars have been doing.
American Football, whilst it is increasing in popularity - has virtually no grass roots program in order to develop kids to play the game here in the UK. I think that would definitely have to change before the NFL could firmly plant its roots here for good.
Ninh Ly
Long term (20 to 30 years) for the league internationally I think should be to establish a separate NFL UK league or even an NFL Europe with Germany, France & Italy but filled with NFL caliber players (not like the previous developmental NFL Europe league). This all being done several years after the grass roots has been established and continued games played in the UK and Europe.
Sounds like a pipe dream but with the NFL pursuing revenue growth of 7% per year with an end goal of $25 billion total revenue by 2027, I find it hard to imagine that all that growth will all come organically from the current model of the NFL.
shinlanten I agree with the fact that the current NFL model will not aid in the development of players over here.
And I also agree with the fact that the NFL is increasing year on year both in popularity and revenue to the point where it could be a world spanning league.
Unfortunately, I don't think a European or UK NFL League is ever going to happen, or if it does - I don't think it will be successful. You just have to look at other sports that tried and failed over here. The Australian Football League set up a UK league, Basketball has tried it, Ice Hockey has tried it - all with minimal success. The grass-roots thing is a giant problem, and even then it's no guarantee of success.
Basketball is taught in most schools these days and there are basketball clubs and courts everywhere, and yet there are few NBA level players that get churned out over here. Most have to go to a college in the US to stand any chance of success.
It's a nice idea certainly to have a NFL league based in Europe. I just don't see it happening.
:)
Interesting observation. Perhaps you're right. Heck, the NFL might not be around by 2027 with all the concerns of CTE and the way the game is trying to adapt (i.e. penalty for hitting a defenseless player did not exist when I played back in high school many many years ago) because of it....you never know...
I've never watched a video regarding a topic that was not bias but spot on with facts awesome review & agree it's a pipe dream.
+magic heats I agree - London NFL team, not any time soon! Thanks for stopping by, be sure to share this video and subscribe :)
Great video as always!
One question, though. Would the logistical side be improved at all if the NFL moved a second team to Manchester or Glasgow or something? That's what the MLB did when they expanded to California for the first time: the Dodgers and Giants moved in tandem to cut down on travel costs and maintain their rivalry.
Robbynascar28 Interesting idea. Although with the NFL, only London will do and I doubt two teams from the US would happily relocate to the UK. Travel costs and time differences is only part of the problem - the bigger problems include different taxes, different laws, visa issues etc. All too much of a headache, which is why I believe that it won't happen, certainly not any time soon.
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If there was a team, it might be called something crappy like London AFF (American football franchise) United
Willie Jeng That wouldn't at all surprise me. Either that or something horribly stereotypical like the 'London Kings' ' London Monarchs' or some other name that's cliche with London.
Ninh Ly The Fighting Limeys?
Threshingfloor814 That name would only be popular in Australia, as they'd use it predominantly as a ridicule to the English. Or change it to the Fighting Pommies ... they'd really have a field day then!
"Limey" is very common in the U.S. too.
Willie Jeng Whats wrong with united.
The time difference in London would be a huge problem. I don't see the NFL working out there. Plus, soccer is a much more popular there than American football. I don't think soccer leagues would want the NFL to cut into their fan base and profits.
+theFORCEismyallie Time difference certainly is a problem and soccer is popular over here, but not so much that the NFL can't thrive over here. Still won't happen though. Be sure to share this video and subscribe :)
The NFL is not even remotely a competitor to soccer. It's gonna be sports like Basketball/Ice Hockey or maybe even Rugby League that need to worry about the NFL cutting into their fan bases.
I'm a fan of London football, but you bring up great points. Good video, pal.
Believe it or not, I'm uploading and updated vdieo @ 8:00pm GMT. It explains how it's now entirely possible that the London Jaguars will take to the field. Be sure to check it out!
Hi Ninh. Me again! I was the first Britain to be professionaly employed to teach American Football in the UK Look forward to meeting you one day!!
Like I care!
well it helps that here is the US, We have High School and College football. Maybe if you can get your 2 secondary schools to maybe invest into american football, then people might continue to take it seriously. Good High school teams make tons of money. same with college. college football existed for nearly 50years before the NFL and the AFL were even a thing.
It's a good idea in theory. However, the government mandated curriculum needs to change to allow american Football to be played in schools, and also funding. I don't see it happening personally. Be sure to share this video and subscribe :)
High school teams don't really "make" money. They have boosters that donate money for gear and all the money earned by ticket sales and concessions gets funneled back into the school's general fund to pay for, well, education. Nobody's really making a profit.
It's very interesting to see the Brits really get into the NFL(National Football League)and American Football as well-but if England wants a NFL Franchise-they should form their own team
Nobody goes to school games in europe of any sport not even in soccer
Falcon4242 You've never been to Texas High school football games then.
Do European football fans exist? I thought those were a myth lol. Also if any country is getting an NFL team, it's probably Canada, since Canadians and Americans have very similar taste in sports, and they already have NHL, MLB, and NBA teams in Canada.
I always assumed the Wembley Stadium games only did so well due to novelty.
Hot Cosby canada has a football league already though
LongSnappersLivesMatter bit there wouldnt be a point since that would give the NFL unnecessary competition just because of one team
Hot Cosby European football fans don't exist
Hot Cosby Well of course European Football fans exist but just not what americans call football so nfl isn't part of it as they've their own Football Leagues/Ligue/Liga.
Good stuff
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great video
Thanks John, much appreciated.
Why not bring back NFL Europe instead?
Sir Aaron Rowell Excellent idea in theory. But NFL Europe was a disaster for many reasons, mainly due to losing money and the fact that people wouldn't pay top-dollar to watch what was essentially a developmental league.
In London, only the NFL would draw in the sort of crowds and the revenue that the NFL craves. If London stopped making money, the NFL would be gone quicker than you can say 'boo'.
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Ninh Ly And just like nfl europe did not work i think this will not work either.
superbob3331 The video pretty much stated that, although rumours come every year around October/November time that a team will move to London ... I just don't see it. Thanks for stopping by, be sure to share this video and subscribe :)
The fact that the Jags are good now lol
That certainly helps.
I said it first. I've been rooting for them since the Brunell days, and won't stop, and didn't when they were awful. And now they're winning again!
James Hussey I understand the feeling, I've been Titans fan all my life. My thing is that the first time we make the playoffs in almost 10 years, y'all still won the division after we beat y'all twice
lol tru tho.
well.. about that...
good video!
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Sweet vids dude. Can u make one for NFL team in Canada/México?
Whilst they have more of a chance than London - it's very doubtful that either are going to get a franchise either.
Toronto bills please no
Toronto is the most American place in Canada
They have the baseball team
They have the basket ball team
And for the longest time they had the soccer team
Not only that but they have a CFL team
Creating a NFL Toronto team would destroy the Argonauts
And if that happens then more CFL teams are gonna disband in the wake of Canadian NFL teams
You of all people should know what would happen to the CFL if the bills moved to Toronto
Daxon Gooding Yes, I'm fully aware of all of those above comments. An NFL team in Toronto would probably end the Argonauts as it stands, and there's been potential government intervention to prevent the NFL putting a team in Canada. Realistically there's no chance of an NFL team in Toronto ... but even they had more of a chance than London!
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Ninh Ly Mexico has a HUGE NFL market.
Threshingfloor814 They do indeedy. Whether a move to Mexico City is more realistic than a place like LA, is certainly debatable. I don't see it happening personally.
If we are speaking hypothetically, I would think a move to Monterrey would be even better than Mexico City. Nuevo Leon tends to be more culturally connected to the U.S. (They have a huge baseball following) Monterrey is a wealthier city per capita and a huge market.
Hypothetically possible! It has all the required 'ingredients' to make the NFL work in the place. Whether any NFL team moves in the next 10 years given the profitability of the league is questionable. Food for thought though ...
Yea no we americans all agree Dalas is not gonna represent Us thats a fucking joke
Max V We will always be Americas team. No matter how much you hate us we are Americas team.
myboyblue 32 I agree. After all, the Cowboys do have the best all time record in the NFL.
As an American, having an NFL team in London would be worth it to hear the commentators wrangle with our terms, or make up their own. I can kind of imagine a sort of "Try Jar" in the booth, for every time they call a touchdown a try.
+Maxwell Wergin Funnily enough - for sports commentators in the UK, they usually hire Americans! This eliminates any risk from some idiotic 'celebrity' (namely Colin Murray) butchering all the terms and calling it a 'try'.
An interesting one another UK commentator came up with was the 'Jacksonville Jaggers'. True story.
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Nice Sir 💖
Thanks Zahoor!
I am a Rugby fan and I am from South Africa and I would love to see a live NFL game in London and it will be good for American Football.
Anybody get that blitz the league 2 vibe with the Mexico City Aztecs? Miss that game..
Ah, you got the reference! Cheers! :)
Great video, I find your videos to be amusing and informative, can you do a video explaining how the salary cap systems (hard cap, soft cap, and luxury tax) in North American leagues work? And whether or not it will be feasible or applicable in European and/or South American football leagues? The pros and cons of having a North American salary cap system implemented in European and/or South American football leagues.
That's not a bad idea, but you're the only one asking for those at the moment.
I'll make it with a bit more demand for sure. It's an interesting subject.
I love this channel.
QwertyTheGamer 111
Thanks for the props man!
I think the Mexico City Aztecs was from a game called blitz the league 2 where a football team had the exact same name.
Yep, you got the reference. Well done!
There's no Dairy Queen in the UK? Damn you guys are missing out! We have it in Canada and I love it.
No there are no Dairy Queens. And yes every time I go to Canada and the US, I have to find the nearest DQ, Wendy's and/or Tim Horton's and stuff my face with it.
good video love to see outside of America people be interested in america football 🏈
I had no idea NFL was that popular in the UK. I'm glad to see it taking baby steps towards globalization. I'll be so happy when the Rams or Raiders return to Southern Cali!! Great video!!
+whosaidthat84 Yes, surprisingly the NFL is very popular here in the UK. It's most likely looking like the Rams are going to make the jump to LA. Thanks for the comments on this video, be sure to share this video and subscribe :)
Way ahead of ya 😁😁
The jet lag issue could be helped with the use of the bye week. The eight home games could all be played consecutively before entering the bye week and then the London team could travel to the U.S. to finish out the remainder of its schedule. And all the potential west coast teams would be given one of those final away games toward the end of the season.
Well teams are already traveling cross country anyways what's wrong with transatlantic
Liam Flynn Jet lag and transatlantic travel aren't the only issues. Would every NFL team be happy at rearranging their schedules to accommodate London? Would they be happy playing their games at 10:00 pm on a Sunday night to make sure an American TV audience is watching? Are the players and staff prepared to pay 45% income tax on their salaries? There's hundreds of reasons why a move to a place like LA makes more sense than a place like London, and this video only illustrates the main ones.
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Liam Flynn To answer some of the other comments you left on my videos (you disabled replies for some reason).
1) Yes, I think that the NFL is 'thinking globally' (as you put it) by expanding the game outside North America. My take is that they'll try and copy the NBA's 'Global Games' and eventually host regular season games in cities across the world.
2) Ideally, a NFL/CFL compromise would make sense, but it'd never happen. Canadians are fiercely proud of their version of the game and the NFL would never concede on any of the rules that have made their sport the most profitable in the world.
3) The reason for the gulf of talent between the two league is simply down to money. If the CFL started paying NFL-style salaries - I guarantee you'd get better players in the CFL.
4) I always did wonder if the NFL and CFL would ever host an exhibition 'compromise' game, very similar to what Gaelic Football and Australian Football do every year (the international rules football series). I think it'd be an interesting experiment at the very least.
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Team Hawaii of the NASL solved the travel problems by having 4-5 Away games back to back and also having the teams they were facing off at home for the next 5 games come at once
So I think that a London team might do something similar to solve their travel problems
Travel isn't the biggest hurdle. It's a big headache for sure, but it's more the government, customs, laws and the fact that the NFL is a money spinning machine for it's owners.
If you say to all the owners - we're putting a team in London, they get a higher salary cap and you guys get less profits - how many of them do you think will agree to that? Answer: none.
Everbank Field in Jacksonville is considered to be the best fan experience stadium in the league. The ticket sells has been good and haven't had a blackout game 4 years before the blackout rule was repealed and even before the the stadium upgrade.
+Jackson Boi I'd love to go there, it looks like a fun place to watch a game. I've actually just come back from Florida and I watched a Bucs game whilst I was out there and the game experience is pretty cool there too. Would have loved to seen Everbank as the girlfriend is a Jags fan. Thanks for stopping by, be sure to share this video and subscribe :)
+Ninh Ly No problem, plus there's more stadium upgrades more to come and now there's talk to build an NFL theme park in Jacksonville. You did nail it on the head about the move is not possible and having an NFL team in London is not a good idea, especially the travel rates. Shad Khan the owner of the Jaguars want the NFL to play games in other parts of the world to spread fan base. They did play an NFL game in Mexico City on Hispanic Heritage Month which done very well.
+Jackson Boi I didn't hear about the NFL theme park in Jacksonville?! That I'd definitely go out to see!
Like I said to numerous other RUclipsrs, the NFL will probably copy the NBA's Global Games idea and play regular season games in venues around the world to cash in on different markets. They wouldn't put a team in London permanently - there's far too much money to be made just playing exhibition games in large stadiums across the globe!
+Ninh Ly The Theme park which included a Marina, Condo's, ect is Shad Khans plans for the city. I would agree that it wouldn't hold an team on that aspect too, especially If they do manage to make it happen; how long would it last? Not very long since we saw they discontinued the Europe NFL not long ago.
You should do an updated one now that spurs grounds of an NFL ground
I did. Check out my channel ... ruclips.net/video/hNR0hukKNdY/видео.html
I think NFL Europe should be given another go, with one critical difference: This time, each NFL team should be linked to one of the 6 to 8 European teams, with NFL rivals always assigned to different teams. I think that would greatly boost TV ratings in America for NFL Europe. Because then if you're, for example, a New England Patriots fan, you cheer each week for the Scottish Claymores because they have all your developmental players on them, while the London Monarchs have all the New York Jets developmental players on them (and maybe the Ravens and Broncos as well). It's another chance to beat your rivals.
The old NFL Europe didn't have that, players were spread out everywhere and there were needless restrictions on even being allowed to come back to the same team year-to-year. It was difficult for either Americans or Europeans to get attached. Make the change above and I think you also increase emotional investment by European fans in US teams, because then they only have to pay attention to 4 or so NFL teams to see the progress of their local team's players. This is how people get hooked on sports, by having a cheering interest.
Yes, the old NFL Europe was definitely flawed in that respect. But realistically it'll never happen ever again. The last one was a catastrophic fail for a number of reasons, the small number of teams was one of them. Besides, the NFL already have plans to make a developmental league based in North-America, which would breach non existing markets such as Mexico, Hawaii and possibly (if they can break into it) Canada. Life would be a lot simpler if there was a D League at home than there is in Europe.
It would be cool to see Grid Iron (American Football) leagues in Europe with teams representing cities. For example London vs Manchester or even national teams representing countries! I just hope it goes better than previous attempts to bring the sport to Europe.
Daniel K They do already! They have a 'pro' league called the BAFL with teams like London Blitz and Manchester Titans etc. But it's in its infancy at the moment, and certainly won't be an NFL style league any time soon. I feel that without seriously financial backing from a juggernaut like the NFL, American Football won't be a dominant sport in the UK.
4:46. As a jets fan, this is painfully true
Yep. Although the future looks a lot brighter now than it did when I first made that video.
Could you please talk about the Bills Toronto Series?
It's pretty much dead in the water, and was the NFL's attempt to move the Bills to Toronto. It ended badly.
I don't think that would warrant a separate video, but thanks for the suggestion!
Do you have an updated thoughts on this Ninh, seeing as now L.A actually have their scalp with the Rams coming back to Los Angeles?
+BrandonjSlippingAway Excellent question. Now that LA have their own team, they can't use the 'boogeyman in the corner' threat to the other teams. I suspect that Jacksonville (who have invested heavily in Everbank Field) are now staying put in Jacksonville, so no London team in the next few years. The only other movers are the Raiders ... to LA. The Chargers are now staying put.
+Ninh Ly thats provided the voterts vote for the new stadium because as it stands nowit won' tget passed as most charger fans hate and despise the owners
+Ninh Ly Also how would this video be different now that the Buffalo Bills have a new owner that was approved unanimously and has no intention to ever move the team?
Who remembers the World League of American Football/NFL Europe and the London Monarchs?
Most people watching this video.
However, NFL Europe was a disaster on so many levels. The NFL itself does very well in London.
@@NinhLyUK It's too b ad iut didn;t last. I enjoy football teams with medeival-themed names likeVikings, Knights, and Dragons. When the Knights played the Monarchs, it felt like it was 1215 all over again! We could call it the Magna Carta bowl!
And the Claymores vs. the Monarchs could either be Falkirk or Bannockburn, depending on who won!
Also, I appreciated how the Monarchs, in their later years, added the Cross of St. George to the helm.
What isn't on this list but which I often hear is that most British/European NFL fans already have a NFL team they cheer for and would be reluctant to change loyalties. Everyone wears their favorite team's jersey to the current International games regardless of which two teams are actually playing, because it's more of an American Football festival than anything else. Does the festival feeling go away if one team is always a London team? I think so, possibly.
I don't see the taxation as a problem though. I would expect the NFL to work out a deal with the UK government in which the NFL spreads out the excess taxation among all franchises as a league-wide operating cost, rather than have the players shoulder the higher burden individually. In return, the American franchises get a revenue share of whatever TV deal is worked out for the London franchise. The problem remains though that London is still a much less attractive destination for a free agent player due to the much greater travel.
Whilst that's technically true and that most Brits already swear an allegiance to another team, I've quickly learned that getting people to switch teams isn't difficult especially in a non-market like the UK. If Houston can capture some of Texas, then London can capture Europe. As for the festival feeling ... have you ever been to England? Any excuse to drink is a good one!
Taxation is a massive problem, and the point in the video i was trying to make is that the other owners DON'T want to burn into their profits by having to fund for a London team to exist, whereas they don't have this problem if the team was based in America.
There are too many hurdles to overcome in my opinion and I think the NFL will go the route of NBA's Global Games and have games staged in different locations without being based in any of them.
so with you ninh when there is a will there is a way
Basically yes. If the NFL are adamant about putting a team in London, they will do it eventually.
Just not right now, still too many obstacles.
For now I would just say continue to build on whats there. No need to rush things and make the jump to a full fledged team especially with all the red tape in the way of making it a reality. For now just increase the number of games perhaps? Like to 8? In that regard for fans of the NFL over in London you are at least getting the same amount of games to purchase tickets to as home game fans do. Sure you wont get a say on who comes and plays in your stadium but there is more opportunity for fans to get to see at least 1 or 2 teams they like, and the NFL can continue to make more money on teams that can't sell out their own stadiums like Jacksonville or Detroit.
I think that's exactly what the NFL are doing. They're making far too much money with the 4 games - they don't actually need to move a franchise there permanently. Having said that - New White Hart Lane is being built to be NFL ready. So I expect that they'll keep doing what they're doing until either it doesn't work anymore, or they move the Jags.
what about a team in mexico? my houston texans played there last year against the raiders and it sold out a 90,000 stadium.
I did mention in the video that Mexico City is a better contender for London.
Can somebody do a video about what happen to NFL Europe League that was there in the 1990s?
Ian Vonschondorf Probably no video needed to explain the failure of NFL Europe. The story goes as is:
1) They formed a development league for the NFL out in Europe. This was the WLAF. It was pretty good, with London being the first World Bowl winners.
2) As time went on, it became NFL Europe and teams started to move cities due to it being financially unviable.
3) They made the mistake of charging first rate money to watch fourth rate football. Big mistake. Fans didn't show up except in Germany.
4) By the time the league folded, all but one team (Amsterdam Admirals) were based in Germany and the league as a whole was losing money. The NFL decided to pull the plug.
The end.
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I liked the NFL developmental league being in Europe. It made for some interesting teams and rivalries. The travel problem would be too great to overcome to have an active franchise in London. Maybe, let the Jags play two home games in London per year, split the baby.
Ideally yeah, but the NFL Europe experiment already failed.
Having an active franchise on a different continent isn't a big a problem as everyone makes out. Super Rugby does this all the time.
No. It would be a nightmare setting up and maintaining a team there. The other times worked because it isn't a regular thing. It's a fun treat for the Brits to see an NFL game live every so often, but if they did it weekly then it wouldn't be exciting anymore.
I think it'd be just as exciting and there would develop a culture and tradition of it.
But the biggest headache is the logistics of the NFL and the team and cap structure.
Almost no owner would ever agree to giving London a higher salary cap and sharing their profits with an overseas team.
As an american, I like the idea of a team being in London, but it is sad to see a franchise leave a city. However it would be nice to see the Jags have a fan base that wasn't depressingly small.
Derek Ayers The Jags fan base isn't that small - but compared to London's it is.
Realistically if they can overcome all the obstacles as listed in this video, it'll be the Jags that move across the pond. They even have their own British nickname (the Jaggers).
Me personally? I don't think it'll happen at all. They'll continue to make good money from London and end up following the NBA's Global Games program, where they host games in major cities across the world in order to drum up interest. They'll continue to dangle London to the teams that are under-performing, sort of like the 'boogeyman in the corner'. I personally believe LA will get a team first.
According to the BBC they were reporting 2022. I am guessing expansion, Jacksonville is staying, and the Rams Moved to LA with either the Oakland Raiders or San Diego Chargers joining them in the near future.
+force19772000 It's official: the Rams are moving to LA. I don't think there are any immediate plans for expansion, but you never know with these things. Thanks for stopping by, be sure to share and subscribe :)
I think for this to work there would need to be a European-based division or even conference (4 or 12 teams). The logistics would be the #1 reason for this not to happen without other Euro-based teams. Having London in the AFC East or South means that they'll be crossing the pond 8 times a year. That will be killer on all of the teams traveling to/from London, then we're also talking about work visa's passports and whatnot.
Creating a Euro-Division would force the NFL to realign at least one of their conferences. But it's certainly doable. But outside of London, the only markets I could see that's remotely American football friendly are Berlin, Frankford, Amersterdam, and maybe Rome. The problem with this route is that you're watering down the level of competition.
I think the NFL should simply just stick with the Wembly series and expand this idea to other markets in Europe, and work on recreating NFL Europe.
You could also talk about Super Rugby, as that league consists of teams in NZ, Australia, Japan, South Africa, and Argentina. That proves that a team in London would be more than viable
Yeah Super Rugby does this all the time, so I'm not sure why Americans are so opposed to the notion of it happening.
Thanks bro.
The big counterbalance to all the reasons why the NFL wouldn't / won't move a team to London is money. There is so much to be made there. London is such a big, rich city, that even if the team came nowhere near the level of support the big Premier League clubs get, they would still likely do better than all but the top tier of American cities.
The real way to do it would be to set up a British Isles or European division by not just having one expansion team but four of them (say Manchester, Dublin and pick a city in Germany-- Berlin) so that the regular division schedule could be played without ridiculous travel commitments. If 6 of the 16 games were in Europe, then the travel wouldn't be quite such an issue. It would also then not need to have all the games start so late. At one point I lived in Hawaii and on Sunday mornings the East Coast games started at 7am there. I got up and watched them... Late starts wouldn't be good for the ratings in the UK, which would be an important consideration in making the thing work. Maybe the only late games would be when a West Coast team would come to visit.
bjdon99 One NFL team playing in Europe is a push. Moving three out here is almost impossible. Remember: the NFL will not expand, so one (or in your case; three) teams have to move. I don't see that ever happening.
The time differences can be overcome, the money isn't an issue, and any security, laws, income taxes, the other problems etc could be solved. But all of those things together? I just don't see it.
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Nice vid I would want a Canadian team because I'm from Canada and I ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ football
An option is not just to have one team in the UK. Give them a divisions worth! That way, they could play each other more often and take less trips.
+James Eisert Interesting idea, but sadly will never happen. One NFL team in the UK is pushing it. Several is near impossible. We have our own league (the BAFL) but it's not exactly what I'd call 'pro'. Thanks for stopping by, be sure to share this video and subscribe :)
Hey Ninh, I've watched a few of your videos, I don't see why they don't get more views they are so well done. I would love to see a NFL team in London, but if the jaguars do "cross the pond' I hope they get completely re-branded, I live in Florida and the jags(and the fan base)have become sort of lackluster. The colors are awful also there are no jaguars in Florida so the name doesn't really fit ( I know there are exceptions to this..but still). This is the best time for them to move and start over, the less teams in Florida the better I say. On a side note: I'm sure the NFL can figure out the logistics issue and if worst comes to worst and it fails so what, to a league like the NFL it would be a small folly.
Hey Jared.
Thank you very much for saying so. Yes, more views would be nice, and I'm sure they'll come in time.
I agree about the re-branding. Even though there are plenty of Jaguars fans over here - I'm sure if they resurrected the 'London Monarchs' name, that would go down really well. As for the logistics: it's more to do with money and UK taxes rather than plane rides and shipping - it's a giant headache that any LA team wouldn't encounter.
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How about the New Mexico aztecs? That would be awesome
What I've been reading is that if the NFL does move over the pond they are talking about putting in three or four teams in the U.K. to alleviate the travel, i.e., can stay over for a few weeks instead of just one.
Trades and travel would be tough.
Well said. I think London has such a great excitement for the NFL because it is different. I think if a team was there for 16 games, that excitment would begin to drop off and it would simply become another team rather then the sexy new thing. We see the same thing in America when a European Premier team comes over to play a friendly, it could easily sell out the Big House in Michigan. Realistically I think the NFL would expand to Mexico before London. But the London games will continue as it is fun for the leauge and generates TONS of American and international buzz. If there is one thing the NFL loves, its speculation. Glad to see your a Cowboys fan. I have heard, and remember from the failed NFL Europe, that there is a lot of gridiron football fans in Germany. Whats your thoughts on the NFL playing a game in Germany? Who is the most popular NFL team in England?
Hey Mark Dewald
Once again, I appreciate the kind comments. To answer your questions and queries.
1) Yes, I'm glad you agree. The NFL will continue to make a boat-load of money without ever having to move a team to London, just like Premier League teams would sell out the Big House every game.
2) I think LA and possibly San Antonio are better fits than London and Mexico City, although Mexico would undoubtedly get a team before London.
3) Yes, when NFL Europe died (finally), all but one of those teams were based in Germany. I think inevitably the NFL will do what the NBA are currently doing with it's 'global games' and hosting games across several cities worldwide. I think yes - Germany will probably get to host games too.
4) In a recent poll taken on the NFLUK website - the Patriots are the most popular team followed by (surprisingly) the Jaguars and Packers. And just like the USA - nobody remembers the Titans!
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Ninh Ly LA will happen soon. Sam Antonio will never have a team. The NFL are marketing geniuses and are extremely selective on where teams go. They do not want to take from Cowboys fan base, the largest money maker in the NFL. Toronto is always a possibility all though that would be the death of the Argonauts. I think Mexico City is a possibility all though player and staff security would present a major obstacle as they would be huge targets for kidnapping. Keep up the videos, I love your take on things
Mark Dewald I dunno man, if Houston can get a team, so can San Antonio. I know there's a huge Cowboys contingent there so I think Jerry Jones will make life difficult. But it is possible.
What's probably not so possible now is the NFL in Toronto. The 'Bills in Toronto' series was a complete disaster and I'll be very surprised if they ever get a team or get the government of Canada to fund for a new stadium.
Thanks again Mark, I'll try my best :)
LA now has the Rams and the chargers so is that point still valid?
The LA point isn't valid, but the others certainly are.
To address the Wembley issue, New White Hart Lane is being built to accommodate an NFL field.
I think if there was a team in London it could be played in Twickenham since they know how to deal with similar wear and tear of a field since it is for rugby.
Fair point - it also hold s a similar number too, so that's good. I also think that Tottenham's new Stadium will be built to house the NFL too. But there's everything else that's the problem, most notably the laws and logistics surrounding it all.
I thought this video was going to be one of those humourless jabs at Brits knowing nothing about the NFL, I was pleasantly surprised. A lot of good points in there. One you missed was relying on fans almost dropping their current teams to back, effectively the Jacksonville Jaguars.
+spillett7475 That is a major stumbling block. Most fans of the NFL here in the UK already have allegiances to other teams. In fairness: the Jacksonville Jaguars are doing a great job marketing to existing and new fans. They seem to be getting the lions's share of new fans and they're the number 3 supported side in the country according to NFLUK. Thanks for stopping by, be sure to share this video and subscribe :)
I don't know, but
I looked at the 2016 season and the Giants and someone will play in London for that game. Jaguars are also doing so for one game.
+Angel Films They actually play around three games every year in London now. Jags are back as the defacto British team, but the debate still roars on. Personally, I don't think that we will ever see a permanent NFL team in London.
Yeah. I understand that not any time soon will be a UK team.
I hate living in dallas cuz the ticket prices are always high,smh im moving to a place where football isnt as big
Cowboys tix aren't cheap for sure. And if they are, they're hard to come by.
Travelling 5,000 kms!!! Professional Australian Rules Football AFL is played across the whole Continent.
Perth to Brisbane is 4,000 kms. Throw in some of the more remote areas of Australia and China.
Yes, exactly. Super Rugby spans half the world!
The traveling alone is prohibitive. The UK team would have to get a special schedule that would string together at least 4 games at home, then 4 away, etc. The rest of the league wouldn't stand for that. And that's just the regular season. If they made the playoffs, they'd possibly be shuttling back and forth every week. Now, it might make a whole lot of sense to create a separate but NFL-branded and approved European league (the EFL?) that operated strictly within Europe and perhaps the Middle East. Same NFL rules, player draft, etc. Then you've got real American football but (as Vincent Vega put it in Pulp Fiction) "just a little different."
Agreed. Except that NFL Europe already tried and failed. Only the NFL will do ... but it ain't coming to London permanently!
Can you compare with Football (NFL), Rugby (Union), and Aussie Rules (Footy) please?? and I mean all three together.
I don't think you can compare the three - they are significantly different sports from each other.
The time difference is the biggest reason it wouldn't work. There's already a 5 hour difference between London and New York. They couldn't play a Sunday night game, unless they want to play at 1 AM.
And there's already a time gap for West Coast teams playing on the East Coast. So imagine the time gap on both ends for West Coast vs. London.
No it's not, and I never mentioned that it was. I have no idea where you got that notion from?
There's just far too many problems with a London team that would be problematic.
it's not going to happen.
Yes. As soon as we can get from london to the east coast in 1 hour.
You can.
Number #6 and #7 aren't that big of a problem here in 2017, Tottenham's new White Hart Lane has the England national team debacle covered.
It does, but when this video was made - New White Hart Lane wasn't even designed yet, let alone being under construction.
I think what will happen is that the NFL will trial games at New White Hart Lane before considering moving a franchise over here.
I'm a Jacksonville fan and I thought this was a good video but you are right Jacksonville doesn't want to lose the jags
+Jim Allen Damn right - it'd be a shame if the Jags made the move. But I doubt that it'd ever happen. Thanks Jim, I appreciate the comments. Be sure to share this video and subscribe :)
Do a rules of handball.
I've already recorded the audio for a 'Rules of Handball' video, but finding the relevant footage is proving difficult.
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No problem mate
Personally, I believe that while the NFL in London is a novel concept, it is far from happening. Along with the reasons you mentioned, North America isn't even done for teams. LA wants one. That's obvious. San Antonio wants one. Toronto, Mexico City, Orlando, a return to St. Louis (assuming the Rams eventually move to Los Angeles), Memphis, Brooklyn, the list goes on. While it would be neat to see a full time international team, Goodell should focus on this continent first.
Mike Dilullo I wholeheartedly agree! Putting a team in London doesn't make sense when you have LA, San Antonio, Toronto etc. all vying for teams, all of which are easier to make happen. Like I said to most people - it's an idea that always circulates round the time where the NFL comes to London, but realistically, it's not going to happen. Hence my need to make this video. Thanks for stopping by, be sure to share this video and subscribe :)
Memphis and Brooklyn have teams already. The Jets and Giants play just outside of the City. The Titans are play at LP Field in Memphis so they already have a team. The Raiders might move to LA they already have a stadium concept. Orlando might get a team although that's unlikely. San Antonio could get one maybe the Cowboys or Texans move there
Firstly, the Titans play in Nashville. Secondly, I want a team in Brooklyn for an intense rivalry between Brooklyn and the Jets/Giants. Thirdly, Orlando is a very tourism-friendly place, so an NFL team wouldn't be too bad there. Look at the success of the new Orlando Club in MLS. Finally, Mark Davis pitched the idea of the Raiders moving to San Antonio. The Cowboys aren't moving away from Dallas (especially with that super stadium) and the Texans are less than 15 years old, so I can't see them anywhere but Houston for the time being.
Liam Flynn I agree with Mike Dilullo
+Mike Dilullo Puls that whole new stadium the Texans play in.
It would probably work but it will cost more money to fly teams out there and back for 16 games and including playoffs
Won't be as much as you think .. .especially if the league is sponsored by an airline.
Ninh Ly Really I thought it be a lot of money to use jet fuel both ways also would it probably be best to just have two leagues of football like one in England during spring-summer and NFL in America fall-winter so we get non stop American football and both countries get them and still eligible to trade to North America or England
Technically England already does. It's called the BAFL - and it's not exactly what you'd call 'pro'.
Ninh Ly Maybe should move it up to pro also like Family Guy episode when Peter is on the Patriots and gets traded to the London silly nannies