As a DIYer who loves tools and DIY; this was great edutainment. The cresent wrench commentary was mind blowing; I thought all cresent wrenches wobbled!!! LMAO!!! I may need new wrenches!!!
😂 they all move a little bit but good ones don’t have nearly as much play as those Chinese crescents. If you have those, you should definitely treat yourself to some USA made ones. The Milwaukee adjustable wrenches are great too. Thanks for watching!
I agree on the Milwaukee M12 screwdriver being bulky, but I still like it. It's great for assembling and breaking down things. The power seems fine, considering it's only meant to be a screwdriver. I use mine quite frequently around the house where it's well suited for small jobs.
I love the Milwaukee drivers. I like that they are not over powered and have built a ton of projects with them. I have two and an as soon other Milwaukee drills, impact drivers, and impact drivers. I more often than not reach for one of these to drove screws because I’m less likely to overdrive or strip out the threads. The clutch works well and The battery last a long time. I really like it and don’t have a problem with it.
If that is the case, then it is a good tool for you. Whatever gets the job done for you is a great tool. Like I said in the video, a lot of this stuff is personal preference. Thanks for watching!
Over priced and under powered. I've got a little cheap pink electric driver that I found doing a clean out on a job, it worked so I kept it and threw into the tool bag. It works great for brass screws, cabinet work, light covers exc it works fantastic. Not sure how much it cost but I've been using it doing construction trade work for about 5-6 years, never replaced it, the battery, or charger. And I'm pretty sure the whole package might be $20. I would've never bought one but I would definitely buy another one if this one goes out.
I'm professional bike builder, I bought the Milwaukee driver and works great for turning screws for bike builds. Prior to getting the driver, I was using the m12 hammer drill and it was just too heavy.
Yes, the Milwaukee M12 Fuel drill/hammer drill and M12 Fuel impact driver does 85% of the work I do. I almost never need the M18 Fuel. It's much smaller than DeWalt's 12V line, and if I need more power, I put the higher Ah battery in. If I was suggesting someone buy one impact driver & drill/hammer drill kit, it would be the M12 Fuel. It's spectacular. The one he has is the junky non-fuel (brushed) version.
I agree with you, my favorite pliers are from knipex, especially the cobras. I recently bought the knipex twingrip, and it is a very good slipjoint plier, with screw extracting features and great teeths. I also use bosch 12v platform, and this compact screwdriver is my favorite. And the Bosch go 2 screwdriver is a great alternative to the Dewalt one. The only difference is that the battery is not removable, it charges via USB.
I’ll have to check out that Bosch usb screwdriver. I think I’ve seen it before. I have the twin grips too. Those things are sweet. Thanks for watching!
I most definitely agree with you on that Milwaukee screwdriver. That thing is a wast of time..under powered, big/bulky, and I really don’t have a use for it. I end up going for my drill.
I have that Milwaukee screwdriver and use if full time hvac work. I like it because you can actually feel when the screws are about to strip. I think it has pretty good power I’ve gotten some pretty tight stuff loose with it but it’s incredibly slow. With that said I got the dewalt 12v max screwdriver and do like it much better
It is super slow. I can definitely see it being good for panel screws but it’s so dang big I don’t like taking it with me in a tool bag. I’ve been eyeing the new dewalt 12 volt stuff. It seems pretty nice. Thanks for watching!
Great video I have the same problem with the Klein insulated screwdrivers, modern crescent wrenches are junk! Also the Milwaukee isn’t terrible but it’s just not great, my biggest issue is the rpm is so slow.
I know a lot of people like those. I’m just weird about things that are different lol. They aren’t a poorly made tool or anything. Thanks for watching!
VDE screw drivers always used to be too fat, it has been standard practice for yeah to strip an inch or so of the end just to fit things like brakers. Over here it's pretty common to require the use of VDE tools and cutting the insulation off would void the test so the manufacturer's came out with the slip ones. I remember people getting very excited about 10 years ago when they appeared in the catalogue. I also remember getting into trouble for stripping the screwdrivers, I worked on pretty high powered stuff at the time, The sacrifice is in the strength though you end up with a much thinner screwdriver, they end up with a lot of flex so are less good on larger terminals in my experience.
That definitely makes sense. The Wiha ones definitely seem pretty strong, but I don’t really use them on big terminals. I’m glad they started making thinner insulated screwdrivers because those fat ones are a pain. Thanks for your comment 👊
Yea they make two models. There is another one that has has more sizes which sounds like what you have. I still think they are too big though. Thanks for watching 👊
Slip joint pliers. I had a cheap cheap pair as a young man. Pinched my skin so many times I threw them away. I vowed never to own another pair. I have however, just purchased the Knipex twin grips. Just over the moon with them. Multi screwdriver. Wiha do a lovely set, one handle with a collection of shafts with various ends. You can add to the set too. They are called Slim Vario. I highly recommend them.
I used to feel the same way about slip joint pliers, but it was because I had used so many bad pairs of the them. I have the twin grips too and they are awesome. I have some old USA made ones that are great, and the Snap on ones are sweet. I like slip joint for general purpose grabbing and holding.
Brother in law just bought a house and his only power tool was that m12 Milwaukee. Was deciding between if I should get a new m12 surge impact myself and give him my old one. Or give him my old Dewalt DCD771 and the equivalent low end impact. Decided to upgrade my dewalts and give the olds ones way and I’m sure glad I did after seeing this video with that Milwaukee. Like their M12 stuff a lot but their low end looks brutal.
Yea the low end m12 is pretty lame. I like the fuel stuff but that old stuff isn’t great. Especially that screwdriver. I have the regular fuel impact but I really want that surge. I’ve used my buddy’s a couple times and it is awesome.
I use the m12 fuel surge all the time. Its well balanced, not too heavy, small, decent noise level and packs a punch. The 3 speeds and feathering the trigger allows you to go from not stripping small metal screws to seating lag bolts. I don't believe in one brand does it all but Milwaukee did well with the m12 line, for DIY specifically.
I don't like the GL series groove lock pliers from Channellock either. I have found that the v jaw versions of their regular tongue and groove pliers are great, but the GL series are thinner and just don't seem to grip very well.
I would absolutely try to warranty the DeWalt screwdriver. Honestly, I am and Industrial technician and use this tool everyday, it is so helpful I would honestly hate for you to miss out on how handy it is taking panels and covers off etc. I showed mine on my RUclips channel as well since I use one here at home and all kinds of disassembly also. When the Gyro is working correctly it is so smooth.... Best of luck to ya!
I did actually like it when it was working. I should see if I can get it replaced. Thanks for checking out the channel man. Looks like you’ve got a pretty awesome channel going there!
@@realworldtoolreviews Thanks, it's been slowly growing. I have always enjoyed working on things and sharing what I have learned, sometimes just learning together. Best of luck to ya!
I am always looking for the most efficient tool bag and I agree with you. I am a huge m12 fan, but the screwdriver should be a 6v (or their new usb-c batteries) and half the size and weight with 500rpm. Milwaukee 4v is a fail. The newer Dewalt gyro is a good size and weight but expensive and the gyro gets some getting used to. Thank you and keep up the good work on your reviews I am learning a lot.
I have that big fat klien driver i hate it too😭, and the flip shank driver has a weak flat head blade, but i use it a lot. I also hate the crescent adjustable wrench’s.
In my younger years, I bought a Kobalt brand ratcheting adjustable wrench. I HATED that tool so much. I kept trying to leave it at customers homes and my helper, at the time, kept putting it back in my carry box because i was so adamant about not leaving tools behind. My rule was if we are missing a tool, we do not leave until we find it. Still my rule today btw. Finally pulled over at the local river and chucked that thing as far as I could 😂. That was before I learned that the stuff at Lowe's was no longer good. I thought Kobalt was the shit because growing up, thats what we bought, but when I was a kid and my Dad was buying these tools they were made by Williams and Armstrong. Had to learn the hard way to 1 buy quality and 2 stay away from gimmicks. Damn thing cost me 40 bucks😂
I had both electric screwdrivers. I agree with the Milwaukee, it was just too big (bigger than the drills), and underpowered. I sold the thing. The dewalt though, I actually like. I use for taking off faceplates, etc. I hadn’t had any issue with mine, but definitely could see it being useless once the gyro goes! I basically use it like a cordless ratchet, for screws, lol.
@@realworldtoolreviews I try to explain it to people as yes… it’s gimmicky… but once you get used to it, it’s pretty cool, lol. I have that same one, but wish I knew it came in a version with an adjustable to 90 degree handle, I probably would have got that one
I love that m12 screwdriver. I do commercial HVAC and use it all day long for sheet metal screws. The lack of power makes it perfect and I prefer pistol grip over on-line.
@3:53 I hate button adjustments on wretches. It's a really nice tool, thin knippex, except that I only grab that tool only because I haven't touched it for so long. It's still brand new
My replacements would be the Dewalt brushes screwdriver gun , Klein wrench with blue handle and like you mentioned the Klein impact ready magnetic nut driver.
The dewalt screw driver you did get a bad one. I have one for years love it. I use it as a reamer, installing outlets , 1900 cover even to splice wire . it’s really handy save me lot of time.
Yea I have had a lot of comments saying the same thing. Like I said, I liked it before it messed up. It’s a cool tool. I might have to get another one some day!
I’m a big Bosch guy. Lucky enough to have started with them. My only gripe, selection of specialty tools. Personally their ergonomics and field longevity are top notch. I have m12 for my propex expander and crimper.
Totally hear you on all of these. LOL. I much prefer the new Klein mechanism where you pull back the collar to release the shaft to flip it (like the flip socket one you mentioned). If the insulated was like that, it would be much more secure. That said, I don't mind the twist as much as you.
Yea that one is more just a preference thing. I do like the collar thing a lot better too. I have a couple that are like that. The twist just annoys me, but it’s not necessarily a bad design. I just hate it for some reason lol.
Great video !!! I'm an old school local 3 electrician from Da Bronx NY I'm retired now but have channellocks that are 50 years old that are better than the new stuff. I also have klein pliers that are so old the linesman is climbing down the pole. (LOL) Point is the old tool making methods are far superior to the new stuff they're making today. I never liked klein linesman pliers. I aways used Channellock's. As far as drills go !!! Application is everything. I once worked on a light retrofit job where they were changing over to electronic ballast, I used one of those 4 volt drills & a 5/16 & 11/32 sockets on the drill. Worked perfectly !!! Light & when your your looking at changing some 1200 ballasts that cheap 4 volt drill made it easier. I used it for a lot of other applications as well, receptical & switch screws panel covers & the list goes on. Just my old school take this. Keep wrenching Bros !!! -- Joe --
I agree that old school tools are often better than the new cheaper methods. If you want a light screw gun, that Bosch one I showed is the real deal. Thanks for watching Joe!
What's up, Joe! I too am a former Local 3 Electrician from NYC. I haven't hung up my tool belt yet, but soon. I just changed disciplines a little and also moved into management which is more headaches but easier on the body. Glad to see other Local 3 guys kicking around
@@El_Diablo_LI Good Morning Brother. I did the same thing fifteen years ago. I hung up my tools. I went to Electrical Inspector at NYC Buildings. I retired two years ago. LoL
My 1st dewalt gyro started doing the same thing after only a few uses...I returned it to HD...the 2nd one is going strong almost 2 years later as a daily used tool. Some were duds I guess...
The best multi screw driver in my opinion is the Milwaukee 48-22-2880 It has the 1/2 size in the handle, it won’t work in all instances but that’s one more size over all the other multi bit screwdrivers
Dang Eric I had no idea about that one. I might have to try that one out! I like the idea of a multi that has 1/2 inch. That’s definitely going on the list. Thanks bro!
Yea, I would like to know what the experts at channel lock thought when they finished making the first ones of those and started using them. Hey had to know they sucked. They must have just said F it. We’ll sell them anyway lol
I have both the M12 brushed and fuel screwdrivers. You are spot on about the size of this thing. I got the M12 brushed screwdriver for cheap on ebay, it came broken, got refunded and Milwaukee warrantied it so it was essentially free. My knee jerk reaction when using it for the first time was, "damn this thing is big for being so weak". I can't believe there are videos on youtube of people saying how much they like this thing. I thought I could use it on electronics, but nope its massive. I essentially leave it with a XC 4.0 battery in the bathroom and use the hex drill brush attachments to clean the tub and sink. I cant complain because I got it for free, but if I had to pay for a screwdriver, i'd be better of getting some cheap cordless one on amazon that is much smaller and cheaper. Then I found the M12 fuel screwdriver for super cheap on ebay ($70 ish) and bought it. Same large size, has 2 gears, noticeably more power, and much better run time. But it lives in an unusual place in M12 line up, and I think there is a reason why nobody does reviews on it on RUclips and few people bother owning it. The installation driver offers so much more versatility due to multiple heads while still being precise for delicate fasteners. I think you could even use the M12 surge on the lowest setting for somewhat precise fastener installation, its quiet, and much more versatile being an impact driver. No way would I want to pay the full MSRP on the Fuel screwdriver. They also never have sale promotions on it, compared to the other M12 tools. Both of these items should be avoided and skipped over. I should have spent the money I put towards the fuel screwdriver on the installation driver if I really needed something precise.
I’ve always wondered about that brushless screwdriver. It’s weird that they don’t market that one or sell it most places. I figure probably the installation driver covers what that tool does. The Bosch one is the best in my opinion. I love that style of screw gun. It’s probably my most used tool.
@@realworldtoolreviews yeah the installation driver essential makes the fuel screwdriver unnecessary. I like the Bosch chameleon a lot and they had major sales on the brushed flexiclick. I’m in the Makita, m12, and ryobi and I wish the Makita would create a multi head driver.
I work HVAC and alot of the service guys bought the Milwaukee screwdriver for the reason it won't break zip ins or strip them out.As an installer I would never use it,but I can see the service guys reasons for not wanting to tear shit up.
Yea I can definitely see why they use it for those screws. I use my Bosch one that I showed in the video for all those cover panel screws and I just like it so much better because it is smaller and fits in a tool bag. The Milwaukee definitely would work well for what they use it for though. I hate when people strip those screws out with an impact.
I have the Dewalt gyro but with the adjustable handle. I love mine. It works great. Something is wrong with yours. I am on the Makita platform but I have been eyeing the Milwaukee installation drill kit. That looks pretty slick.
Worked with a cheap shake mechanic. He only had the POS fold up Allen keys and nut rounders ( adjustable wrenches ) . Guy was always borrowing socket set whenever his cheap nut rounders could not do the job.
😂 some people just refuse to make their lives easier and get some decent stuff. I’ve worked with a lot of guys like that. They work with tools every day and don’t have many and use the cheapest they can get, but they always have money for booze and cigarettes 😂😂
Those Elkinds are great! They were an awesome solution to my folding hex key problems. Thanks so much Charles! I’m glad your enjoying the videos. Stay tuned!
We got the Klein multi nut driver w 1/2” for work, saved a little bit of weight by ditching the 5/16 and 3/8 since 11-1 has those. I will say the wrench assist handle on the multi nut driver is a life saver, but I just HAD TO modify the handle. I thought it was so ridiculous, what a waste of space why would anyone need a handle this freakin huge. I cut off the rubber lining and at least an inch off the butt of the handle with a band saw. Inserted a rubber grommet, plugged it up and sealed it. Came out as long as a regular 11-1 handle 😎 ..still heavy as shit tho
channel locks :O i used from klein that doesn't have a hole in the jaws. sometimes it's annoying, but still gets the job done. what's shocking to me is the insulated tools that klein has. i am going to buy insulated tools in the future but oof O_O yeah the allen hex keys. i'm switching to the ones with bits. the nut driver, i mean buy the 7 in 1 asap. yes they're bulky and there are times i needed to open the junction boxes in recessed lights, there are times it's too long. they're annoying to switch nut drivers as well that i needed more force to take it out. my ladder ever moved so slightly on that one. no comment on the lower voltage ones like the m12
Even when it was new I couldn't stand my old drill master 3/8 drill from harbor freight. Wasn't too into tools at the time so I had just got it for typical around the house nonsense. That thing has given me nothing but issues. Constantly bogs out, would always die quick, and oh God that brushed smell
Yea, that drill master stuff from harbor freight is pretty bad. I do have a drill master heat gun that is actually pretty good though. Thanks for watching!
The only reason I have that Milwaukee screwdriver is it was essentially free with my battery purchase from home depot on black Friday. But its a good tool, i really like it for working on car interiors where I don't want to mess up the plastic.
😂 I’m glad to know I’m not the only one that hates those tools. Also I love getting comments from guys like you in the trades who really know what they are talking about using tools. Thanks for watching!
I just sent my dewalt gyro in for warranty. My second broken one. The first one died right away and I returned it. I am looking for something else currently. Was thinking of something smaller. Maybe 4v? Although the dewalt worked great when it worked but I don’t have much confidence now. It stopped working in the middle of a job and left me with a giant manual screwdriver.
@@realworldtoolreviews in Canada they are called Dremel go. I ordered one from Home Depot. I am just wondering how you remove a screw when you are pushing on it? Seems counter intuitive. I guess I will find out.
11:06 - Could be wrong here but isn’t the main socket of the Klein nut driver tool 1/2” ? I feel as if I watched another video about this in the past and that was discovered. It is giant though.
My Klein multi nut-driver has a half-inch socket. Maybe they make multiple versions of that thing. Mine has 1/4, 5/16, 11/32, 3/8, 7/16, 1/2, and 9/16.
Im gonna agree with your dislike of that nut driver. I bought it used it three times and stuck it in a drawer. Its so bulky and heavy, kills the toolbag weight. That pop insulated screwdriver handle feels a lil cheap but it has served me well so far. So far.. Great video!
A lot of people like the pop flip screwdriver. It’s not really junk I don’t think. I’m just not a fan of the design. I wish they just would have used a detent to hold the bit in place. Thanks man!
Milwaukee screwdriver just bought a new one 30 mins ago. My old one finally died. It doesn't have the hammer or high speed. Just what you need for door knobs and light fixtures. I have the impact gun too but it's not as controlled.
Those kind of 12 volt screwdrivers are great. I just don’t like how big that Milwaukee one is. I’m a big fan of the Bosch brushless one. It’s kinda pricey, but I love that thing.
Ekland allen sets are awesome and made in U.S. I bought a three set of some of the last U.S. made (foundry closed last year) Craftsman cresent wrenchs and they have no play as well. I have Bosch, Dewalt, and Milwaukee 12 volt drivers and I reach for the brushless Bosch almost all the time. What we need is a super compact brushless 7.2 volt screwdriver.
I own the Klein insulated multi like your, but it just sits in my garage never getting used. And the worst tool I ever owned was a Milwaukee 12v hammer drill, it was so useless that I won’t buy any Milwaukee power tools for work but the 12v seems to do alright for my diy stuff
The Klein multi-size nut driver I have definitely has 1/2 inch! So maybe there are a couple different models I guess? But I do agree, it’s bulky and two guys I work with have demolished there’s but mine is still kicking because it just chills in my tool bag because I prefer my Klein Hollow Shaft Nut Driver set over the multi-tool by a long shot! “And who uses a 3/16 inch nut driver anyway?” lol I laughed at that one pretty hard but I honestly use it as much as my 1/2 inch and my 7/16 because I am a cable lineman (coax splicer) and all of our seizure screws are 3/16 so mine is damn near worn out haha! I bought a Klein insulated 3/16 for when I’m loosening hot seizure screws and it’s waaaaay to thick to fit in there so I may try to cut the insulation back like you did. Great idea man! Enjoyed the video! Keep up the great work buddy.
I have some 👍 I like them. I had to take a file and smooth the jaws a little bit because they still were a little sharp and raised up on the edges, but after that they worked great.
I have the 14 in 1 and the flip sockets, but combining them is just too bulky and weird for me to use on a daily basis. Plus I don’t like the bit holder part of the flip socket. It isn’t very magnetic.
For the dewalt on the battery unscrew the screws on top of terminals and bend that metal piece out and then screw back down. Both sides. It’ll work after. Had same problem. After fixed is favorite tool
I've had the most shoddy workmanship and or just bad engineering when it comes to hand tools from Klein than any other tools, I agree with you on your assessment of their 5 into one nut driver ,, big bulky and overpriced.. I also dislike that plastic coating they use for their pliers just like Channellock the blue coating if you get it oily or greasy or even wet they become slippery and you'll end up dropping them
@ 5:40 -- I've never found much use for Slip-joint pliers in general - but if you want a well-made pair for about the same money - ICON makes a Snap-On knock-off with the 3-position joint for less than 20 bucks. Taiwan-made, not cheap Chi-Com.
@@realworldtoolreviews Will go back and check that one out - just bought a pair of them to see the fit, finish, and if I actually use them while working on my vehicles.
As a time served maintenance engineer,I Agree with all that you say too! I feel your pain when a brand you love makes something that's crap! You kind of feel guilty! The hatred though of a duff tool! at the end of the day its hard earned money you've spent! My biggest shocker was a Metabo 18v SDS, Metabo KHA 18 LTX BL 24 Quick which is their top line SDS drill, each time I attempt to drill a hole, the battery unclips! I have approached Metabo about this, it will be interesting to see what they say, the design is ridiculous!
@@realworldtoolreviews Ive never had resin to complain to them, but ive sent an email today to their UK support, I'll let you know how I got on! It's was probably the equivalent of 450 Dollars with 2 batteries.
@ 14:38 -- Apples to Oranges comparison on that - you have THE oldest, crappiest, brushed M12 Driver....comparing THAT to the latest/greatest Bosch. Get the 3rd Gen M12 FUEL™ 1/4" Hex Impact Driver -- p/n 3453-20 to compare to the Bosch driver. Hell, the 1st Gen 1/4" Impact driver is still pretty great - held up to tons of abuse my first two years in HVAC -- it's retired to my personal truck now.
Oh I have an m12 fuel impact. It’s great. It’s not the same tool though. What I’m talking about in this video is the 12v screw gun. It’s basically a drill driver with a 1/4 inch quick change on it. It is super light and great for every day stuff. It doesn’t impact. Milwaukee does make a brushless version of it, but it is expensive and hard to find. That would be the better comparison to my Bosch like I said in the video.
@@realworldtoolreviews Agreed, under-powered and pointless. I've seen them 'On Sale' since I got into HVAC - I don't think anyone buys them on purpose. They could DEFINITELY make an M12 Electric Screwdriver with some high tech gyroscope controls and brushless motor(s). (Maybe DeWALT has a patent. 🤔) Even if it was about the thickness of the M12 battery, but a cylindrical form-factor - that would be pretty cool and easy to keep a firm grip on. It would be badass if they did a smaller version (more along the size and shape of an actual screwdriver) utililizing the headlight-sized 'Red Lithium' batteries would be the best
Dear Real World Tool Reviews guy, First of all, let me thank you for bothering in upload so instructive tools videos. As you, I like good tools. I don't want to sound like a blind Milwaukee brand defender, It is just want to make a little note about the Milwaukee M12 2401. I have several sizes of screwdrivers, impact screwdrivers, all the way to small impact wrenches. I can't say the 2401 is my favorite tool, personally, as you, I could prefer the Bosch GSR12V-300HXN if I got the money ($50 vs. $130), but the 2401 for sure is the one I use the most. Assembly and disassembly of appliances, pcs, car interior stuff, residential HVAC, small wood and plastic works that requires an small amount of torque to avoid ruin parts suit perfect to this screwdriver, and if you already have M12 cordless line there is not a lot to think. Thank you again, JC
The milwaukee tool is great for installing things. I use it all the time for putting screws in the helicopters I work on. You don't know how to use the right tool for the job. I don't use it for removing really tight screws but you can put screws in without risk of over tightening them. Then you can actually use it manually to check tightness. I have tons of milwaukee impacts and drills but that little one you hate is great for what I use it for.
I have the Klein 11-in-1 nut driver, and I use the a bsolute fuck out of mine. My only complaint is the 2 smallest sizes are super shallow. But that'd not much of an issue, really.
Hey if it works for you then it’s a good tool for you. I might get that impact flip socket one that they came out with recently. That looks pretty sweet.
@@realworldtoolreviews Have that one too. It's neat that it's a screwdriver and an impact but, too. My beef with it is the sockets don't stay real secure on the shaft and they kinda shake loose. But, it's a non issue, just annoying.
My Channellock 430X have USA in the forging..☝️ I have those identical Klein pliers. But instead of being slip joint teeth, they are spring clamp pliers, other than that they're identical...even with the writing and Made In Mexico on them..they're good for the job they were intended..I have really good Blue Point sets but these are the ones I grab..
How are you not a fan of the button adjustment on the pliers?? I can’t stand the channel lock style. I haven’t tried the knipex ones but I have the vise grip quick adjust ones and you don’t have to push the button to make it smaller so you can just put it on the pipe or fastener or whatever and close it to the right size
It’s just a personal preference thing. I’m so used to the tongue and groove style. I also like that I can adjust it with one hand, which I can’t do with the button. That 14 in 1 Klein is awesome. I have a video about that one. You will like that thing!
Yea I know lots of people like it. I just don’t like that design or popping the blade in and out. I’m sure it works fine for you and many others. If it gets the job done for you, it’s a good tool 👍
I'm late to the party here. That klein nut driver....It absolutely sucks! I bought it thinking it would be convenient to have in my portable toolbox. The issue is this. It is so bulky and wasn't even usable in applications I would typically use a nut driver for.
So like you said: a lot of this is about personal preference. For example: yes, that Dewalt is utter, unadulterated garbage; but I find this Milwaukee super useful for electrical outlets, HVAC panels, cabinet fasteners, etc. If I need more power I have a large selection of Makita a Milwaukee tools to choose from. Having said that, my Makita 12v CXT screwdriver is about the same size, has twice the power and speed, and like most Makitas is far more comfortable in the hand. So do I regret my purchase? A little. But it's still super useful.
"That I hate, but I hate myself more for buying it". hahaha don't we all know that feeling!
😂😂 everybody who has bought tools for work knows that feeling
“Who let y’all start making wrenches?” 😂😂😂
As a DIYer who loves tools and DIY; this was great edutainment. The cresent wrench commentary was mind blowing; I thought all cresent wrenches wobbled!!! LMAO!!! I may need new wrenches!!!
😂 they all move a little bit but good ones don’t have nearly as much play as those Chinese crescents. If you have those, you should definitely treat yourself to some USA made ones. The Milwaukee adjustable wrenches are great too. Thanks for watching!
The best part of this great video is the tool comparisons to the ones you like better, and why. Really enjoyable. Thanks!
I agree on the Milwaukee M12 screwdriver being bulky, but I still like it. It's great for assembling and breaking down things. The power seems fine, considering it's only meant to be a screwdriver. I use mine quite frequently around the house where it's well suited for small jobs.
I love the Milwaukee drivers. I like that they are not over powered and have built a ton of projects with them. I have two and an as soon other Milwaukee drills, impact drivers, and impact drivers. I more often than not reach for one of these to drove screws because I’m less likely to overdrive or strip out the threads. The clutch works well and The battery last a long time. I really like it and don’t have a problem with it.
If that is the case, then it is a good tool for you. Whatever gets the job done for you is a great tool. Like I said in the video, a lot of this stuff is personal preference. Thanks for watching!
Over priced and under powered. I've got a little cheap pink electric driver that I found doing a clean out on a job, it worked so I kept it and threw into the tool bag. It works great for brass screws, cabinet work, light covers exc it works fantastic. Not sure how much it cost but I've been using it doing construction trade work for about 5-6 years, never replaced it, the battery, or charger. And I'm pretty sure the whole package might be $20. I would've never bought one but I would definitely buy another one if this one goes out.
@@thatdude8247 Amazon had the Milwaukee for like 30-40bucks not long ago. Lol
I'm professional bike builder, I bought the Milwaukee driver and works great for turning screws for bike builds. Prior to getting the driver, I was using the m12 hammer drill and it was just too heavy.
Yes, the Milwaukee M12 Fuel drill/hammer drill and M12 Fuel impact driver does 85% of the work I do. I almost never need the M18 Fuel. It's much smaller than DeWalt's 12V line, and if I need more power, I put the higher Ah battery in. If I was suggesting someone buy one impact driver & drill/hammer drill kit, it would be the M12 Fuel. It's spectacular. The one he has is the junky non-fuel (brushed) version.
I busted out laughing on the adjustable wrenches and said the exact same thing after taking them out of the package.
😂 I’m glad I’m not the only one.
Thanks for sharing your information about such a tool and for guiding us. We are waiting for your next videos.
Thanks! You guys are awesome!
Love the Klein impact nut driver screwdriver, I got that and the adjustable length 14 in 1 and swapped the impact bits to it and it’s been AWESOME!
I agree with you, my favorite pliers are from knipex, especially the cobras. I recently bought the knipex twingrip, and it is a very good slipjoint plier, with screw extracting features and great teeths. I also use bosch 12v platform, and this compact screwdriver is my favorite. And the Bosch go 2 screwdriver is a great alternative to the Dewalt one. The only difference is that the battery is not removable, it charges via USB.
I’ll have to check out that Bosch usb screwdriver. I think I’ve seen it before. I have the twin grips too. Those things are sweet. Thanks for watching!
I most definitely agree with you on that Milwaukee screwdriver. That thing is a wast of time..under powered, big/bulky, and I really don’t have a use for it. I end up going for my drill.
I’m re-naming it the M12 pencil sharpener 😂
I have that Milwaukee screwdriver and use if full time hvac work. I like it because you can actually feel when the screws are about to strip. I think it has pretty good power I’ve gotten some pretty tight stuff loose with it but it’s incredibly slow. With that said I got the dewalt 12v max screwdriver and do like it much better
It is super slow. I can definitely see it being good for panel screws but it’s so dang big I don’t like taking it with me in a tool bag. I’ve been eyeing the new dewalt 12 volt stuff. It seems pretty nice. Thanks for watching!
A great video with humor. Informative and made me laugh my ass off. Thanks!
I’m glad you were entertained! Thanks man!
I love the button adjustment. Most frustrating thing to do is correct the jaws when you pickup the tool and are trying to do something one handed.
I know a lot of people like it. It is nice to have it locked I position sometimes. I’m just so used to the regular channel locks.
I was highly impressed with the BOSCH 12V right angle…I keep it in my little veto bag for removing panel screws and light drilling and drill driving…
Thanks for the video, I was seriously looking at the dewalt driver too.
Great video I have the same problem with the Klein insulated screwdrivers, modern crescent wrenches are junk! Also the Milwaukee isn’t terrible but it’s just not great, my biggest issue is the rpm is so slow.
Thanks! Yea that m12 is super slow. That is the worst thing about it. It is barely faster than a regular screw driver
I love my Klien slim tip insolated screwdrivers. They're definitely a go to for tight places
I know a lot of people like those. I’m just weird about things that are different lol. They aren’t a poorly made tool or anything. Thanks for watching!
VDE screw drivers always used to be too fat, it has been standard practice for yeah to strip an inch or so of the end just to fit things like brakers. Over here it's pretty common to require the use of VDE tools and cutting the insulation off would void the test so the manufacturer's came out with the slip ones. I remember people getting very excited about 10 years ago when they appeared in the catalogue. I also remember getting into trouble for stripping the screwdrivers, I worked on pretty high powered stuff at the time, The sacrifice is in the strength though you end up with a much thinner screwdriver, they end up with a lot of flex so are less good on larger terminals in my experience.
That definitely makes sense. The Wiha ones definitely seem pretty strong, but I don’t really use them on big terminals. I’m glad they started making thinner insulated screwdrivers because those fat ones are a pain. Thanks for your comment 👊
i do love the klien multi nut driver i use it all the time doing hvac but i do agree the downfall is no half inch driver. frustrating sometimes
Yea, I think they did come out with a new one that does have 1/2 now though.
“They have so much play, you can play in a band.” 😂
Your demeanor in this video is great,
I can hear the genuine solice in your voice when introducing them😆
😂 The disappointment is real
The little 90 channel locks are in my poket all day. I love those little guys.
I agree with a lot of cresent wrenches having to much slop in the jaws but my Klien has 1/4-9/16 it's got a 1/2 inch nut driver.
Yea they make two models. There is another one that has has more sizes which sounds like what you have. I still think they are too big though. Thanks for watching 👊
Slip joint pliers.
I had a cheap cheap pair as a young man. Pinched my skin so many times I threw them away. I vowed never to own another pair.
I have however, just purchased the Knipex twin grips. Just over the moon with them.
Multi screwdriver.
Wiha do a lovely set, one handle with a collection of shafts with various ends. You can add to the set too. They are called Slim Vario. I highly recommend them.
I used to feel the same way about slip joint pliers, but it was because I had used so many bad pairs of the them. I have the twin grips too and they are awesome. I have some old USA made ones that are great, and the Snap on ones are sweet. I like slip joint for general purpose grabbing and holding.
I just subscribed! Really liked your honesty, although I am a big fan of DeWalt and Klein, just like you!
Congrats, man!
Thanks for subscribing! I’m glad you are enjoying the videos 👊
Brother in law just bought a house and his only power tool was that m12 Milwaukee. Was deciding between if I should get a new m12 surge impact myself and give him my old one. Or give him my old Dewalt DCD771 and the equivalent low end impact.
Decided to upgrade my dewalts and give the olds ones way and I’m sure glad I did after seeing this video with that Milwaukee. Like their M12 stuff a lot but their low end looks brutal.
Yea the low end m12 is pretty lame. I like the fuel stuff but that old stuff isn’t great. Especially that screwdriver. I have the regular fuel impact but I really want that surge. I’ve used my buddy’s a couple times and it is awesome.
I use the m12 fuel surge all the time. Its well balanced, not too heavy, small, decent noise level and packs a punch. The 3 speeds and feathering the trigger allows you to go from not stripping small metal screws to seating lag bolts. I don't believe in one brand does it all but Milwaukee did well with the m12 line, for DIY specifically.
I don't like the GL series groove lock pliers from Channellock either.
I have found that the v jaw versions of their regular tongue and groove pliers are great, but the GL series are thinner and just don't seem to grip very well.
I agree with you. The regular v jaws fit on stuff way better. Those thin ones don’t fit around things right. It’s a terrible design.
I would absolutely try to warranty the DeWalt screwdriver. Honestly, I am and Industrial technician and use this tool everyday, it is so helpful I would honestly hate for you to miss out on how handy it is taking panels and covers off etc. I showed mine on my RUclips channel as well since I use one here at home and all kinds of disassembly also. When the Gyro is working correctly it is so smooth....
Best of luck to ya!
I did actually like it when it was working. I should see if I can get it replaced. Thanks for checking out the channel man. Looks like you’ve got a pretty awesome channel going there!
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Thanks, it's been slowly growing. I have always enjoyed working on things and sharing what I have learned, sometimes just learning together. Best of luck to ya!
Same to you bro 👊
I am always looking for the most efficient tool bag and I agree with you. I am a huge m12 fan, but the screwdriver should be a 6v (or their new usb-c batteries) and half the size and weight with 500rpm. Milwaukee 4v is a fail. The newer Dewalt gyro is a good size and weight but expensive and the gyro gets some getting used to.
Thank you and keep up the good work on your reviews I am learning a lot.
Thanks for watching man I’m glad you are enjoying the videos!
I have that big fat klien driver i hate it too😭, and the flip shank driver has a weak flat head blade, but i use it a lot. I also hate the crescent adjustable wrench’s.
Lol I’m glad I’m not the only one!
In my younger years, I bought a Kobalt brand ratcheting adjustable wrench. I HATED that tool so much. I kept trying to leave it at customers homes and my helper, at the time, kept putting it back in my carry box because i was so adamant about not leaving tools behind. My rule was if we are missing a tool, we do not leave until we find it. Still my rule today btw. Finally pulled over at the local river and chucked that thing as far as I could 😂. That was before I learned that the stuff at Lowe's was no longer good. I thought Kobalt was the shit because growing up, thats what we bought, but when I was a kid and my Dad was buying these tools they were made by Williams and Armstrong. Had to learn the hard way to 1 buy quality and 2 stay away from gimmicks. Damn thing cost me 40 bucks😂
I had both electric screwdrivers. I agree with the Milwaukee, it was just too big (bigger than the drills), and underpowered. I sold the thing. The dewalt though, I actually like. I use for taking off faceplates, etc. I hadn’t had any issue with mine, but definitely could see it being useless once the gyro goes! I basically use it like a cordless ratchet, for screws, lol.
Yea I liked it before it died. It was probably unfair to put that tool in this video because it is actually pretty cool.
@@realworldtoolreviews I try to explain it to people as yes… it’s gimmicky… but once you get used to it, it’s pretty cool, lol. I have that same one, but wish I knew it came in a version with an adjustable to 90 degree handle, I probably would have got that one
I love that m12 screwdriver. I do commercial HVAC and use it all day long for sheet metal screws. The lack of power makes it perfect and I prefer pistol grip over on-line.
@3:53 I hate button adjustments on wretches. It's a really nice tool, thin knippex, except that I only grab that tool only because I haven't touched it for so long. It's still brand new
the newer 8v dewalt screwdriver gyro that can go from straight to pistol grip with a clutch is on my list.
They are very cool. That one does seem a lot better. Especially because of the clutch.
My replacements would be the Dewalt brushes screwdriver gun , Klein wrench with blue handle and like you mentioned the Klein impact ready magnetic nut driver.
I’ve always thought about getting the Klein adjustable. I have a lot of good ones so I don’t need it really, but they do seem nice.
The dewalt screw driver you did get a bad one. I have one for years love it. I use it as a reamer, installing outlets , 1900 cover even to splice wire . it’s really handy save me lot of time.
Yea I have had a lot of comments saying the same thing. Like I said, I liked it before it messed up. It’s a cool tool. I might have to get another one some day!
I have the other klein multi nut driver that does have 1/2 inch (not the impact one), it’s a lot more useful than the one you have
I honestly didn’t realize the one I have didn’t have 1/2 inch when I bought it. I would like it a lot more if it did.
I’m a big Bosch guy. Lucky enough to have started with them. My only gripe, selection of specialty tools. Personally their ergonomics and field longevity are top notch. I have m12 for my propex expander and crimper.
Totally hear you on all of these. LOL. I much prefer the new Klein mechanism where you pull back the collar to release the shaft to flip it (like the flip socket one you mentioned). If the insulated was like that, it would be much more secure. That said, I don't mind the twist as much as you.
Yea that one is more just a preference thing. I do like the collar thing a lot better too. I have a couple that are like that. The twist just annoys me, but it’s not necessarily a bad design. I just hate it for some reason lol.
@@realworldtoolreviews I just bought the latest version of the flip 11 in 1 impact rated screw driver.
The only complaint I have is a bit heavy.
Great video !!!
I'm an old school local 3 electrician from Da Bronx NY
I'm retired now but have channellocks that are 50 years old that are better than the new stuff. I also have klein pliers that are so old the linesman is climbing down the pole. (LOL) Point is the old tool making methods are far superior to the new stuff they're making today.
I never liked klein linesman pliers. I aways used Channellock's. As far as drills go !!! Application is everything.
I once worked on a light retrofit job where they were changing over to electronic ballast, I used one of those 4 volt drills & a 5/16 & 11/32 sockets on the drill. Worked perfectly !!! Light & when your your looking at changing some 1200 ballasts that cheap 4 volt drill made it easier. I used it for a lot of other applications as well, receptical & switch screws panel covers & the list goes on.
Just my old school take this.
Keep wrenching Bros !!!
-- Joe --
I agree that old school tools are often better than the new cheaper methods. If you want a light screw gun, that Bosch one I showed is the real deal. Thanks for watching Joe!
What's up, Joe! I too am a former Local 3 Electrician from NYC. I haven't hung up my tool belt yet, but soon. I just changed disciplines a little and also moved into management which is more headaches but easier on the body. Glad to see other Local 3 guys kicking around
@@El_Diablo_LI Good Morning Brother. I did the same thing fifteen years ago. I hung up my tools. I went to Electrical Inspector at NYC Buildings. I retired two years ago. LoL
My 1st dewalt gyro started doing the same thing after only a few uses...I returned it to HD...the 2nd one is going strong almost 2 years later as a daily used tool. Some were duds I guess...
Yea I guess so. It was a cool tool while it was working for me.
The best multi screw driver in my opinion is the Milwaukee 48-22-2880
It has the 1/2 size in the handle, it won’t work in all instances but that’s one more size over all the other multi bit screwdrivers
Dang Eric I had no idea about that one. I might have to try that one out! I like the idea of a multi that has 1/2 inch. That’s definitely going on the list. Thanks bro!
I believe the Klein nut driver also has a half-inch in the handle but I could be mistaken
I bought the same set of channel lock pliers thinking they were as good as my alligators. Boy was I wrong!😂😂😂
Yea, I would like to know what the experts at channel lock thought when they finished making the first ones of those and started using them. Hey had to know they sucked. They must have just said F it. We’ll sell them anyway lol
I have both the M12 brushed and fuel screwdrivers.
You are spot on about the size of this thing. I got the M12 brushed screwdriver for cheap on ebay, it came broken, got refunded and Milwaukee warrantied it so it was essentially free. My knee jerk reaction when using it for the first time was, "damn this thing is big for being so weak". I can't believe there are videos on youtube of people saying how much they like this thing. I thought I could use it on electronics, but nope its massive. I essentially leave it with a XC 4.0 battery in the bathroom and use the hex drill brush attachments to clean the tub and sink. I cant complain because I got it for free, but if I had to pay for a screwdriver, i'd be better of getting some cheap cordless one on amazon that is much smaller and cheaper.
Then I found the M12 fuel screwdriver for super cheap on ebay ($70 ish) and bought it. Same large size, has 2 gears, noticeably more power, and much better run time. But it lives in an unusual place in M12 line up, and I think there is a reason why nobody does reviews on it on RUclips and few people bother owning it. The installation driver offers so much more versatility due to multiple heads while still being precise for delicate fasteners. I think you could even use the M12 surge on the lowest setting for somewhat precise fastener installation, its quiet, and much more versatile being an impact driver. No way would I want to pay the full MSRP on the Fuel screwdriver. They also never have sale promotions on it, compared to the other M12 tools.
Both of these items should be avoided and skipped over. I should have spent the money I put towards the fuel screwdriver on the installation driver if I really needed something precise.
I’ve always wondered about that brushless screwdriver. It’s weird that they don’t market that one or sell it most places. I figure probably the installation driver covers what that tool does. The Bosch one is the best in my opinion. I love that style of screw gun. It’s probably my most used tool.
@@realworldtoolreviews yeah the installation driver essential makes the fuel screwdriver unnecessary. I like the Bosch chameleon a lot and they had major sales on the brushed flexiclick. I’m in the Makita, m12, and ryobi and I wish the Makita would create a multi head driver.
@@ChrisBranleh I’ve always wished somebody would make an 18 volt version of these tools. I would buy it in a heartbeat
Had a good time watching 👍👍🍻
I’m glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching! 👊
I work HVAC and alot of the service guys bought the Milwaukee screwdriver for the reason it won't break zip ins or strip them out.As an installer I would never use it,but I can see the service guys reasons for not wanting to tear shit up.
Yea I can definitely see why they use it for those screws. I use my Bosch one that I showed in the video for all those cover panel screws and I just like it so much better because it is smaller and fits in a tool bag. The Milwaukee definitely would work well for what they use it for though. I hate when people strip those screws out with an impact.
I have the Dewalt gyro but with the adjustable handle. I love mine. It works great. Something is wrong with yours. I am on the Makita platform but I have been eyeing the Milwaukee installation drill kit. That looks pretty slick.
Yea I have thought about the m12 installation driver too. Looks pretty good. Those attachments it comes with are cool.
I have the gyro screwdriver and I like it. It’s great for doing small work. I use it all the time for stereo equipment disassembly.
Worked with a cheap shake mechanic. He only had the POS fold up Allen keys and nut rounders ( adjustable wrenches ) . Guy was always borrowing socket set whenever his cheap nut rounders could not do the job.
😂 some people just refuse to make their lives easier and get some decent stuff. I’ve worked with a lot of guys like that. They work with tools every day and don’t have many and use the cheapest they can get, but they always have money for booze and cigarettes 😂😂
😂 bitchin about the crescent wrench “what the FUCK is this?” That gad me laughing harder than it shoulda probably lol . Great vid
😂😂 those lame tools just bring it out of me. Thanks man!
Great vid my friend...i JUST got the eklind sae and metric hex keys and they are sooooo much better...keep up the good work 👍👍
Those Elkinds are great! They were an awesome solution to my folding hex key problems. Thanks so much Charles! I’m glad your enjoying the videos. Stay tuned!
We got the Klein multi nut driver w 1/2” for work, saved a little bit of weight by ditching the 5/16 and 3/8 since 11-1 has those. I will say the wrench assist handle on the multi nut driver is a life saver, but I just HAD TO modify the handle. I thought it was so ridiculous, what a waste of space why would anyone need a handle this freakin huge. I cut off the rubber lining and at least an inch off the butt of the handle with a band saw. Inserted a rubber grommet, plugged it up and sealed it. Came out as long as a regular 11-1 handle 😎
..still heavy as shit tho
That’s a good idea. I bet that definitely made it better 👍
channel locks :O i used from klein that doesn't have a hole in the jaws. sometimes it's annoying, but still gets the job done. what's shocking to me is the insulated tools that klein has. i am going to buy insulated tools in the future but oof O_O yeah the allen hex keys. i'm switching to the ones with bits. the nut driver, i mean buy the 7 in 1 asap. yes they're bulky and there are times i needed to open the junction boxes in recessed lights, there are times it's too long. they're annoying to switch nut drivers as well that i needed more force to take it out. my ladder ever moved so slightly on that one. no comment on the lower voltage ones like the m12
Even when it was new I couldn't stand my old drill master 3/8 drill from harbor freight. Wasn't too into tools at the time so I had just got it for typical around the house nonsense. That thing has given me nothing but issues. Constantly bogs out, would always die quick, and oh God that brushed smell
Yea, that drill master stuff from harbor freight is pretty bad. I do have a drill master heat gun that is actually pretty good though. Thanks for watching!
The only reason I have that Milwaukee screwdriver is it was essentially free with my battery purchase from home depot on black Friday. But its a good tool, i really like it for working on car interiors where I don't want to mess up the plastic.
As an electrician I agree with %100 of everything you reviewed. Literally everything.
😂 I’m glad to know I’m not the only one that hates those tools. Also I love getting comments from guys like you in the trades who really know what they are talking about using tools. Thanks for watching!
I just sent my dewalt gyro in for warranty. My second broken one. The first one died right away and I returned it. I am looking for something else currently. Was thinking of something smaller. Maybe 4v? Although the dewalt worked great when it worked but I don’t have much confidence now. It stopped working in the middle of a job and left me with a giant manual screwdriver.
I’ve heard good things about the Bosch one. I might try it out.
@@realworldtoolreviews in Canada they are called Dremel go. I ordered one from Home Depot. I am just wondering how you remove a screw when you are pushing on it? Seems counter intuitive. I guess I will find out.
11:06 - Could be wrong here but isn’t the main socket of the Klein nut driver tool 1/2” ? I feel as if I watched another video about this in the past and that was discovered. It is giant though.
My Klein multi nut-driver has a half-inch socket. Maybe they make multiple versions of that thing. Mine has 1/4, 5/16, 11/32, 3/8, 7/16, 1/2, and 9/16.
Im gonna agree with your dislike of that nut driver. I bought it used it three times and stuck it in a drawer. Its so bulky and heavy, kills the toolbag weight. That pop insulated screwdriver handle feels a lil cheap but it has served me well so far. So far..
Great video!
A lot of people like the pop flip screwdriver. It’s not really junk I don’t think. I’m just not a fan of the design. I wish they just would have used a detent to hold the bit in place. Thanks man!
I have the Klein nut driver that goes up to 1/2 and 9/16. I keep it in my secondary bag, and it’s great
Milwaukee screwdriver just bought a new one 30 mins ago. My old one finally died. It doesn't have the hammer or high speed. Just what you need for door knobs and light fixtures. I have the impact gun too but it's not as controlled.
Those kind of 12 volt screwdrivers are great. I just don’t like how big that Milwaukee one is. I’m a big fan of the Bosch brushless one. It’s kinda pricey, but I love that thing.
Ekland allen sets are awesome and made in U.S. I bought a three set of some of the last U.S. made (foundry closed last year) Craftsman cresent wrenchs and they have no play as well.
I have Bosch, Dewalt, and Milwaukee 12 volt drivers and I reach for the brushless Bosch almost all the time. What we need is a super compact brushless 7.2 volt screwdriver.
I own the Klein insulated multi like your, but it just sits in my garage never getting used. And the worst tool I ever owned was a Milwaukee 12v hammer drill, it was so useless that I won’t buy any Milwaukee power tools for work but the 12v seems to do alright for my diy stuff
Born and bread in the pipe trades brother; if straight-jaw channel locks and a pipe wrench can't turn it, it ain't gettin' turned 💪
I’m with you all the way on that. You and me are always on the same page. Don’t work too hard out there bro!
Dude I that Milwaukee Screwdriver stays in the junk drawer for my wife. And it ROCKS for her
A lot of people have told me their wife uses that one 😂
The Klein multi-size nut driver I have definitely has 1/2 inch! So maybe there are a couple different models I guess? But I do agree, it’s bulky and two guys I work with have demolished there’s but mine is still kicking because it just chills in my tool bag because I prefer my Klein Hollow Shaft Nut Driver set over the multi-tool by a long shot! “And who uses a 3/16 inch nut driver anyway?” lol I laughed at that one pretty hard but I honestly use it as much as my 1/2 inch and my 7/16 because I am a cable lineman (coax splicer) and all of our seizure screws are 3/16 so mine is damn near worn out haha! I bought a Klein insulated 3/16 for when I’m loosening hot seizure screws and it’s waaaaay to thick to fit in there so I may try to cut the insulation back like you did. Great idea man! Enjoyed the video! Keep up the great work buddy.
Funny how I thought of Bahco, Knipex and Eklind as better options and you just showed it the next second I thought of it
Try the smooth jaw Channellock 415 for Chrome fixtures
I have some 👍 I like them. I had to take a file and smooth the jaws a little bit because they still were a little sharp and raised up on the edges, but after that they worked great.
.. I don't know. Project Farm recommends Crescent (new) as the go to adjustable wrench, if you can't find a made in USA Craftsman.
You should get the 14/1 and get the 7/1 flip socket. Attach the sockets to the 14/1.
I have the 14 in 1 and the flip sockets, but combining them is just too bulky and weird for me to use on a daily basis. Plus I don’t like the bit holder part of the flip socket. It isn’t very magnetic.
For the dewalt on the battery unscrew the screws on top of terminals and bend that metal piece out and then screw back down. Both sides. It’ll work after. Had same problem. After fixed is favorite tool
I've had the most shoddy workmanship and or just bad engineering when it comes to hand tools from Klein than any other tools, I agree with you on your assessment of their 5 into one nut driver ,, big bulky and overpriced.. I also dislike that plastic coating they use for their pliers just like Channellock the blue coating if you get it oily or greasy or even wet they become slippery and you'll end up dropping them
Really? I love most of my Klein and channellock tools. I love that kind of plastic handle. To each his own my friend.
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great video and content, I agreed with every point you made !!!
Allen wrench set what was that?
It’s the cheap husky set from home depot
@ 5:40 -- I've never found much use for Slip-joint pliers in general - but if you want a well-made pair for about the same money - ICON makes a Snap-On knock-off with the 3-position joint for less than 20 bucks. Taiwan-made, not cheap Chi-Com.
I got those a couple months ago. I made a video comparing the icons to my snap on ones. They are pretty nice!
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Will go back and check that one out - just bought a pair of them to see the fit, finish, and if I actually use them while working on my vehicles.
Cobras top all chanel locks and pliers wrench replaces all crescent wrenches to me at least
Try some DeOxit spray on that DeWalt Gyro. May be a cure for your electrical issues.
I already tried that. I use that stuff on a lot of things, but it didn’t work on this 😞
As a time served maintenance engineer,I Agree with all that you say too! I feel your pain when a brand you love makes something that's crap! You kind of feel guilty! The hatred though of a duff tool! at the end of the day its hard earned money you've spent! My biggest shocker was a Metabo 18v SDS, Metabo KHA 18 LTX BL 24 Quick which is their top line SDS drill, each time I attempt to drill a hole, the battery unclips! I have approached Metabo about this, it will be interesting to see what they say, the design is ridiculous!
Dang I bet that Metabo SDS wasn’t cheap. That sucks. Nothing sucks more than spending good money on bad tools. You live and you learn 😂
@@realworldtoolreviews Ive never had resin to complain to them, but ive sent an email today to their UK support, I'll let you know how I got on! It's was probably the equivalent of 450 Dollars with 2 batteries.
@@markc1844 I hope they make right for you.
@ 14:38 -- Apples to Oranges comparison on that - you have THE oldest, crappiest, brushed M12 Driver....comparing THAT to the latest/greatest Bosch.
Get the 3rd Gen M12 FUEL™ 1/4" Hex Impact Driver -- p/n 3453-20 to compare to the Bosch driver.
Hell, the 1st Gen 1/4" Impact driver is still pretty great - held up to tons of abuse my first two years in HVAC -- it's retired to my personal truck now.
Oh I have an m12 fuel impact. It’s great. It’s not the same tool though. What I’m talking about in this video is the 12v screw gun. It’s basically a drill driver with a 1/4 inch quick change on it. It is super light and great for every day stuff. It doesn’t impact. Milwaukee does make a brushless version of it, but it is expensive and hard to find. That would be the better comparison to my Bosch like I said in the video.
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Agreed, under-powered and pointless.
I've seen them 'On Sale' since I got into HVAC - I don't think anyone buys them on purpose.
They could DEFINITELY make an M12 Electric Screwdriver with some high tech gyroscope controls and brushless motor(s).
(Maybe DeWALT has a patent. 🤔)
Even if it was about the thickness of the M12 battery, but a cylindrical form-factor - that would be pretty cool and easy to keep a firm grip on.
It would be badass if they did a smaller version (more along the size and shape of an actual screwdriver) utililizing the headlight-sized 'Red Lithium' batteries would be the best
Bwahahaha! GET YOUR PENCIL SHARPENER GUYS!!!
They should sell it with that pencil sharpener attachment and just call it the M12 pencil sharpener 😂
The 1/2 inch hallow nut driver is in the handle.
You got a dud Dewalt screwdriver, I love that little thing
The Klein nut driver looks like a pain to adjust
It is a pain. And way too bulky. Still hate it!
Those are some good tools to hate…. If you have to hate tools.
Dear Real World Tool Reviews guy,
First of all, let me thank you for bothering in upload so instructive tools videos.
As you, I like good tools.
I don't want to sound like a blind Milwaukee brand defender, It is just want to make a little note about the Milwaukee M12 2401.
I have several sizes of screwdrivers, impact screwdrivers, all the way to small impact wrenches.
I can't say the 2401 is my favorite tool, personally, as you, I could prefer the Bosch GSR12V-300HXN if I got the money ($50 vs. $130), but the 2401 for sure is the one I use the most.
Assembly and disassembly of appliances, pcs, car interior stuff, residential HVAC, small wood and plastic works that requires an small amount of torque to avoid ruin parts suit perfect to this screwdriver, and if you already have M12 cordless line there is not a lot to think.
Thank you again,
JC
The milwaukee tool is great for installing things. I use it all the time for putting screws in the helicopters I work on. You don't know how to use the right tool for the job. I don't use it for removing really tight screws but you can put screws in without risk of over tightening them. Then you can actually use it manually to check tightness. I have tons of milwaukee impacts and drills but that little one you hate is great for what I use it for.
Klein tools are amazing and I love my Milwaukee drill, try a better battery
I have the Klein 11-in-1 nut driver, and I use the a bsolute fuck out of mine. My only complaint is the 2 smallest sizes are super shallow. But that'd not much of an issue, really.
Hey if it works for you then it’s a good tool for you. I might get that impact flip socket one that they came out with recently. That looks pretty sweet.
@@realworldtoolreviews Have that one too. It's neat that it's a screwdriver and an impact but, too. My beef with it is the sockets don't stay real secure on the shaft and they kinda shake loose. But, it's a non issue, just annoying.
The older pliers and metal shears are great until you have to start tightening the nut before every use. It will happen, and is very annoying.
My Channellock 430X have USA in the forging..☝️
I have those identical Klein pliers. But instead of being slip joint teeth, they are spring clamp pliers, other than that they're identical...even with the writing and Made In Mexico on them..they're good for the job they were intended..I have really good Blue Point sets but these are the ones I grab..
How are you not a fan of the button adjustment on the pliers?? I can’t stand the channel lock style. I haven’t tried the knipex ones but I have the vise grip quick adjust ones and you don’t have to push the button to make it smaller so you can just put it on the pipe or fastener or whatever and close it to the right size
Also i just ordered the impact flip bit nut driver thing and the 14 in one screwdriver to pair it with
It’s just a personal preference thing. I’m so used to the tongue and groove style. I also like that I can adjust it with one hand, which I can’t do with the button. That 14 in 1 Klein is awesome. I have a video about that one. You will like that thing!
Just take two 2" sections of vinyl tubing and slice them open, BAM! Soft jaw pliers.
Good idea!
The 1/2 inch is the handle on that multi nut driver, but I agree, that driver is horrible.
I freaken hate those husky pliers
Lol yea they are terrible 😂
Kline flip screw driver is great for me
Yea I know lots of people like it. I just don’t like that design or popping the blade in and out. I’m sure it works fine for you and many others. If it gets the job done for you, it’s a good tool 👍
I absolutely hate the klien multi nut driver. You have to lift weights pretty much to use it. My apprentice loves it but it's total junk imo
It’s ridiculously big and clunky. I’ll carry multiple nut drivers all day every day over using that thing.
What really upsets me is that American Brands are made in China or are owned by foreigners who do not give a crap about quality.
I'm late to the party here. That klein nut driver....It absolutely sucks! I bought it thinking it would be convenient to have in my portable toolbox. The issue is this. It is so bulky and wasn't even usable in applications I would typically use a nut driver for.
Yea man it is terrible. I sold it!
@@realworldtoolreviews I kept mine. Have it in the glove box of my car. Would prolly work great for personal defense. 😂
So like you said: a lot of this is about personal preference. For example: yes, that Dewalt is utter, unadulterated garbage; but I find this Milwaukee super useful for electrical outlets, HVAC panels, cabinet fasteners, etc. If I need more power I have a large selection of Makita a Milwaukee tools to choose from. Having said that, my Makita 12v CXT screwdriver is about the same size, has twice the power and speed, and like most Makitas is far more comfortable in the hand. So do I regret my purchase? A little. But it's still super useful.
I’ve heard good things about those makita guns. I would try one, but I have too many it would be crazy to buy another one 😂