Wooting 60HE review (Wooting Lekker Hall effect)
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Skip to 9:25 for a typing demonstration.
Today we look at a new offering from Wooting, which incorporates a bunch of changes compared to their older line-up. Hope you enjoy the video! :)
Intro by Kyle Carter
Outro by Facundo Cabanne
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I'm Thomas and I do videos and reviews on mechanical keyboards ranging from the most sickening modern RGB gaming keyboards to vintage hardware relics, or sometimes keycaps or keyswitches ranging from Cherry MX to Alps SKCM to IBM buckling springs and anything in between.
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The practice sentence was: "Hello my name is Thomas and I'm typing on a Wooting 60HE right now. It's way too small, I hate this stupid form factor! But everything else is really good." 
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A gift to every man, woman and child, from the Brotherhood of Nod. Victory - not just for our people, but for our species. The time for questioning is over. Rising from our trenches, our bunkers, our factories, we must all now partake - in the technology of Wooting.
You're the first covering Toggle key as highlight with a cool example! I hear you on the double-tap option, we already have something related planned for Mod-tap, and will see if it makes sense to have it for Toggle key.
Thanks a lot for covering the good shit!
Hahaha nice xD .
Is this VPN still running!?! *_gunblast_*
now i wait to get mine before i die
MAKE A 75% version
would you guys ever consider going into the ortholinear/split ergo keyboards space?
My favorite part of Thomas’ videos are not the creative insults, German accent imitations or even the Imperial unit conversions; but rather the random, unexpected C&C references.
German?
@@lucutes2936 Check out his reviews of Robotron keyboards, they have some hilarious over-the-top German pronunciation.
@@87engr thx
wooting is becoming the hands down best keyboard company we have now, even though the keyboards are expensive you get what you pay for
I also prefer the full-sized keyboard. I am generally speaking not interested in smaller keyboards such as this one, but I am of course happy to watch reviews on them!
It's a Saturday morning and Thomas has a new keyboard video. All is right with the world.
An excellent sentiment!
Nod VPN is really good one. Got me first half.
Nord vpn is the only sponsor thst doesnt litteraly makes me angry to see but to be honest its because of the really low stanfards companies that makes these sponsors have set... but him making this and sponsorblovk litteraly giving me the option to skip as if it was a real sponsor was fucking hilarioud
Someone even put it as an ad in sponsorblock
@@magusperde365 you sir clearly need a new keyboard. I guess you're in the right place...
@@ev1lbelgian I bought a new model f because of this channel back in january and received it this week. I think I'm set. I was drunk and on my cellphone yesterday though. Still trying to learn QMK though
@@magusperde365 haha I bought a new model f too and it arrived this week as well! I ordered it back in 2018 tho XD. F77 ultra compact in Carolina blue. What an amazing keyboard. Hope you're enjoying yours, and enjoying the drinking too.
Love your vids man, thanks for getting me into this hobby!
Hey thanks for the mention! 😁🚀
That is a requested feature in the game, so it's really cool to have it in the keyboard.
Cheers!
If Wooting makes 75% and 1800 layouts with spacing between keys would be great.
Cannot live without F and arrows keys.
1800 gang rise up
Layers. The real can't live without is QMK. I have a 44-key board that gives me access to literally everything, function keys included, with way less finger movement, plus an extra layer on top of all that specifically for gaming.
SURE IT IS
WE NEED ARROW BUTTONS
@@colbyboucher6391 Do you have some examples as to how your layer specifically for gaming works? I'm moving from a 75% to a 60% soon for aesthetic and ergonomic reasons but I'm still unsure if I can get used to all the layers. Especially arrow keys are something I need a lot when working with video and graphics design software
@@colbyboucher6391 I own a Fjell and have used it consistently for about half a year, and I don't consider programmable layers to be an equally viable alternative to having extra keys available. Needing to press two keys for a single action means that you have one less finger available at that moment to do something else, not to mention that it is inherently slower. For MMO/RTS games that are heavy in keybindings, having extra keys available is very valuable. Another thing worth mentioning is productivity. If you're proficient with task automation using Python/AutoHotKey, having extra keys available to dedicate to scripts is really handy.
The 75, or perhaps 65XT layouts add extra keys without taking up that much extra space.
Thank you very much on the "Bible thumping farming village". I shall use the expression as it was my own. You are definitely my hero.
A fellow Command and Conquer series enjoyer I see you 😏
I just would like to say I love your videos man thank you for making this awesome content
Yay early for once!!!! Love this freaking channel!! Will edit when I get to the end of the vid!!
The only keyboard channel where the sound test starts when he starts speaking, not when he starts typing.
2:01 i would actually subscribe because thats the most accurate thing i've heard anyone say about the netherlands
I got this keyboard for gaming and I'm not disappointed :) I remapped all the right mods as an arrow cluster using it and it's working great, although I use it for gaming and basic web-browsing only :)
These guys are killing it :D
(I did swap the keycaps for a GMK set, tho, which sounds a bit better) :D
I loath that handle thing, but I'd love to get a TKL version. All they have to do now is add a micro-actuator to strike the keystem at the point of actuation, and I'll be happy.
I'd like a full size keyboard with the micro-actuators, and a speaker producing a pleasant "thock" sound at the actuation point. The 'tactile' or 'clicky' features could be disabled if not preferred. For keys set up with multiple actuation points, the intensity of both outputs would be variable in strength. I'd also like there to be a standardised open lighting API for keyboards, such that holding down any modifier key results in all the available options for that key being highlighted for the currently in-focus app, or desktop environment/window manager. This should also work when multiple modifier keys are held down. Current keyboard lighting is a massive waste of potential.
Any kind of physical feedback in the middle of the keystroke kind of gets in the way of the whole analog keyboard idea. I'm married to the buckling spring and think linear is a gross development from people who were weaned on bad keyboards and never learned what a good keyboard is, but the analog mechanism is actually a legitimate functional justification for the zero feedback linear keystroke
@@davidy22 It's presumed the actuator would adjust with the activation setting, or could even be turned off. It's an aspiration more than a serious request, and would no doubt be very expensive to implement.
@@greyareaRK1 I generally agree. Though such a keyboard could potentially meet the needs of most high end keyboard users, and could therefore be mass produced to bring down the price. A single keyboard that could be software configurable to be linear, tactile, or clicky. With the features enabled or disabled on a per key basis to suite the user. If someone wanted a purely analogue input from a key, they could set it up that way.
Of course the average Joe will continue to type on a £5 rubber dome dead fish! :(
@@davidy22 I fucking adore my model F but a wooting would be the only other keyboard I could have use for. The model F is very surprisingly decent at gaming, way more than the M. But I still can't double tap lol.
Great work Tom, and great to see you as always. Also, darn you.....it looks like I'll be getting a third wooting as soon as I can :-)
I've been enjoying the two HE greatly. The PBT caps that come with them now are really nice, and I haven't even been using the analog functions, but the quality of the keyboard itself is fantastic. If I had any use for a 60%, I would definitely get the 60HE. I don't really understand the point of them besides portability, to which the strap is understandable, but most people really won't need to be taking a keyboard around with them.
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One obvious benefit of a 60% keyboard is that it takes up much less desk space. I personally play fps games on a low sensitivity and love to move my mouse around a lot. Another advantage is the fact that it is more ergonomic, because more or less all the keys are able to be reached without moving your hands a lot and many functions are mapped in layers. Like: F5 is fn + 5 and so on. Still I totally get the fact that a lot of people need dedicated function keys, arrow keys and so on. The best balance for my personal taste is a 75% which I'm using right now, but I plan to replace it with a wireless 60% and play around with layers a lot.
there 2 points to this. one is the style community, wanna have minimalistic workspaces, apple style. they dont need numkeypad (they dont do real work anyway) and they never understood what the fkeys or arrowkeys do.
but the main point here is gaming, specially FPS comeptitive. most people and their dog who take this serious play with really low sense and gigantic mousepads.
a small keybaord allows you better range of motion while having your your shoulder not extended. that avoids a ton of issues with your nerves and muscles down the line.
in the past some kids started to hold keybaords in an angle, even 90 degree rotations have been seen to combat that problem. 60% idea is to allow those left swipes without that.
that said i need my Fkeys, i want my numberspad back. i have a 10keyless apex pro, but really one one hadn i want may num key back on the other the extgra space is nice.
and now im looting at wooting for the rapid trigger function :)
I would opt for a full size, but man they did pretty good with this board outside of the handle loop.
they have a full size
Nah go for full size, the price is literally almost the same for 60% or full size
You can use the yellow loop to strap it to your belt so you always have a nice keyboard at reach when you need it.
Tried the same with my new model f and I immediatly broke my leg
I've been using a 60%, and I've adjusted to it, although I find it very helpful to have a split spacebar. One half is a layer key, so I get all the cursor/home/end etc to hand. I prefer it - it's better than moving your arm.
Nice vid again. Didn't see it coming that we share the same city. Handy in case if I would like to try out a keyboard for the actual typing experience.
As a Belgian citizen I support your assessment of the Netherlands. 🤣🤣🤣
I thought you guys mainly thought we were misers, not criminals or bible thumpers? xD
@@Chyrosran22 i'm afraid I had some experiences with the Dutch Bible Belt 🤪🤪 also... i am German too so broader point of view I suppose? 🤪🤣
I think the biggest feature of this board is the ability to set different actuation points for pressing and de-pressing keys, it makes fps strafing and counter strafing way more responsive
Sounds like the stabs are better than the Lekker edition. Thank goodness. That was a big kick in the nuts to those, like me, who preordered it and got rattly stabs in what felt like a prototype to the twohe and this board.
SteelSeries did release a 60% version of the Apex Pro, the Mini. Both at the same price of $180, so it would be an interesting comparison. As well, a wireless version of it for $60 more.
That was a pretty good review, well done
I think the discussion of keyboard form factors is always funny. I usually use 60%s on my daily desk but I also like tkl’s. Past that playing an fps is just uncomfortable. I love huge keyboards too, I just can’t use them on the daily.
I use a 60% with a numpad on the left side so the only thing I'm missing out is the Function keys.
Glad to be part of the 1% of Dutch subbies not hitting the button. Utrecht is pretty swell yes :D Had a lot of fun going knijterhard out of my plate at the latest Blackout in TivoliVredenburg.
Still Drum'n'bass capital of NL
man I just love your humor so so so much hahaha
The biggest takeaway I learned from this is Chyrosan is actually Dutch :o
really love the web based control
Thanks Entirely to you and your videos, I have a GMMK with BOX Jades and I recently got a Unicomp PC122(It'd be nice If you would review the latter in the future). I also agree that I can't live without a Full Size or greater board
Hey! I plan on using this to play Diablo2 too! Yeah, so annoying that I have to get use to it without the F keys now.
It's great, Chyrosran22. I am three years into use with my *Ace Pad Tech 60%*. It has several distinct issues, but the typing of the switch is a strong and distinctly better experience over MX Red switches where I had began two years earlier.
I love the sound of those ALPS switches you showed once, particularly I believe _"ALPS SKCM Orange."_ I know the Matias board review you did also favored my ears.
I do appreciate sound, but feel and then form factor are my biggest interests, I think. I do want a smaller board, and I have always believed want a heavier typing experience. I think I'm going to act on that in 2023 or 2024.
I am hoping to try altering switches by adjusting their springs. Apparently most of these things are like 40 to 60 grammes actuation? I cannot know where I'd want to be.
On the note of feel, the whole reason I've ever gone for these linear, non-"clicky" sorts of switches is because I feel more in this utilitarian headspace. I feel more physical about the board. I want it to do the purpose, serve the purpose.
And so that comes down to what I think are the springs. I am hoping by making the keyboard be at the right sort of like... stiffness or resistance, to the heaviness of my typing, that I can achieve a more satisfying, quality, and indeed consistent and reliable typing experience. I've always been the bottoming-out sort of heavy-handed clacking typist. I don't know that I want to stop bottoming out as a means of saying _"hey, this keyboard is great for me,"_ but I think I want the thing to be more matched to my brutal hands. I am going to beat this damn keyboard!
I kid. I am not going to beat this damn keyboard. We do not do that around here. We do not beat keyboards.
But I maybe I'll get a nice super durable keyboard so I can beat it. Do you see how Chryosran22 seems to take pleasure in dropping those heavy kilogramme keyboards on their wooden desk? I've seen them drop battleships and battlecruisers and resonate in my ears!
Have you seen the box navy switches? Couple of good videos by Thomas on them.
@@duncanmurray6587 Thanks, Duncan. I am unsure. I will be watching them. :)
they are very heavy and very clicky, they may appeal to you.
@@duncanmurray6587 I reviewed the three videos I found via Chryosran22's "box navy" query results. I hadn't seen the switch review video before. The switch is of interest, and something I'll look more into in the days following this, I think.
Thanks for your suggestion, Duncan. It's something I wll think about and evaluate as options on which direction I move forward with keyboards.
I am happy with what I have. But I am curious. I've only tried two things, and I _imagine_ based on how I type that either a strongly light or strongly heavy keyboard is preferrable me. Because I sometimes actuate keys accidentally, I assume that I need heavier responses and not lighter ones. But I also generally feel interested in that heavier feel.
I wonder if the "box navy" is able to have its clickiness removed. I'd want to get rid of the clicky sound signature if it doesn't affect the stiff tactility.
I was thinking I'd need to acquire this effect by way of changing the springs, but Chrysoran22's video suggests that the stiffness is achieved by another means. At least that's what I interpreted. That's interesting.
Chryosran22 did again mention the Matias Click switch, which I know was already something I found attractive, both in sound signature and board design.
Thanks, Duncan. :) Things to think about and weigh into my decisions.
Glad to hear you find them interesting Michael. My understanding is that the clickiness goes in hand with the tactility, but I believe there has been an attempt at a silent clicky switch. Silent box pink I think.
Do you have any reviews of modern PS/2 backlit keyboards?
I knew you'd do this one
Pretty much love that ad lol KANE LIVES!!!
what will be a good pick among corsair k100, apex pro , logitech g915?
This is the first prebuilt keyboard that had got me frothy in a good while. it's on the wish list.
I'm becoming a sucker for optical switches and hall effect switches as well.
KANELIVES
I live and die by my numeric keypad - though I just wish the stems of all keyboard switches were less wobbly. Actually, it'd be interesting if you made a video on the best least-wobbly switches (I'm sure a Kailh Box Red would be up there in the rankings).
He said before he doesnt care about wobliness
i think these dinky little keyboards look fantastic - lovely even. however i also think that using them for actual typing is a far inferior experience to using a full sized one.
The sling loop is a reference to the off-white belt I reckon
Peace through power!
Hi man! Kodey here. Wondering if you could let me know of any switches that sound similar to the Scorpius dome switches but are more of a modern style mechanical switch?
Rule of thumb, Tom: you cant kill the Messiah
Love your voice!
I think the switches have great potency, but I basically want the Keychron K3 (think "small apple keyboard, but better"), but with those Lekker switches.
Thanks for the review on this beauty! Can I have it? 😜You have the best voice!🎤
The software alone has sold me on these. Getting rid of the logitech/steelseries/etc shit has been liberating
Besides the size is there any difference between this and two he
@@joe5706 thank you!
Please tell me that spamvert at the start was some kind of twisted joke?
i really wish there was a TKL version of this board.
A wooting one he would be great
Hall effect switches are great, which one do you recommend for a developer apex pro or wooting ?
Honestly they're both great, I'd look at which features tou prefer.
@@Chyrosran22 Thanks for taking the time to answer me
i neeed ur mic setting omg
I like the idea of hitting the keys harder for caps or larger fonts...those people need to know how wrong they are!!!! :)
I appreciate your hate for small kbs, we're a dying breed
why do you prefer the omnipoints
I do hope that Wooting makes a fullsize keyboard with that case bezzle of this 60HE, those cases where the switches are exposed just kinda look like unfinished shite to me (though I am still tempted to get their current fullsized keyboard)
Also I greatly empathize with your lack of patriotism. As a resident of Lawrence, Kansas myself I consider anywhere outside the county as the barren over-privatized hell hole that is is, and I think it as nothing short of a miracle that prop 2 didn't come to pass here
This is just asking to have that "sling" removed in order to attach a single point rifle sling and carry the thing around like a tactical purse keyboard.
missed you
Was it just me or did the space bar sound like a electric beeper?
Web-based configuration is such a huge upside of this company
SteelSeries released a 60% version quite recently for 200€.
"The fastest compact gaming..." The usual SteelSeries marketing but now with the word "compact" added in there.
KANE LIVES!
I have the previous one 75%. I won't upgrade because the format. Mine does its job, I wish it had more memory to program more keys, like the new one. I use it only on Windows to play videogames. I still prefer short travel keyboard, nad for work I use the magic keyboard on my Mac. Great having touch id, and it works like a charm, no problem with bluetooth connection.
yay!
Instead of the sling mount why not include a carrying case ? I know there are aftermarket keyboard carrying cases but I don't know why more companies don't make branded ones it feels like something people would like.
Dissasembly vid would be nice to have
THOCCK!
I agree there should be 60%s without right shift but arrow keys and extra function rows. Like the sperno59 + a function row. that with a seperate numblock would be my perfect layout ...
Why not just go 65% if one wants the arrow keys? It's only a slightly larger layout.
@@grubbygeorge2117 It's terrible in any way. Only 2 rows compacter than tkl. Ugly af and just crammed. I don't like it at all. Wouldn't pick that layout over my dead body.
@@philipp594 that’s probably thanks to my very specific use case, but I didn’t care about the f-row anyways. Had my 12-button MMO mouse mapped onto f1-f12 all the time
@@grubbygeorge2117 Yeah, that's really not me. I'm the mix between hardcore cad and hardcore counter strike. So I want all the mouse space but nicely sperated F-Row and arrow keys. The sperno59 has a great layout. Add a F row on that and I'd love it.
8:05 "The devs" but there is only one Dev and he's awesome! (His name is Laious)
Oh that handle thing would actually be very useful for me. I can't tell you how many times I ripped out a key carrying my piece of poop logitech linear around
I imagine you could even cut that "sling" off and attach a real single point rifle sling to it and carry it around like a tactical purse keyboard.
Cool
This or the SteelSeries Apex Pro 2023 ?
the yellow tag look funny.
Spirit of the Old School lives only in contactless keyboards.
I am not going back to a full size keyboard ever again now that I got this one.
Smoll is better imo, every key are in the same place you never have to move your right hand to the right to press the arrow keys or delete key.
I'd say the sling thing is there so you can easily get it out of a backpack or shoulder bag. Not a bad thing on some bags, I have a Ogio Mach 5 Motorcycle backpack and on the big pockets my keybord is sometimes a bit of a bitch to take out. The sling would help, I think. But yeah for other uses, its stupid.
That ad was HILARIOUS!!!
crazy how you think larger netherland cites are crime holes as they are utopian paradises compared to any city in US or a lot of the EU. not to mention the icon of good city planning.
The villages sound based.
holy shit
I didn't even notice the "nodvpn" sponsored bit until I checked the comments lmfao
God, wutility is still the best name for a software tool
How is it that you review keyboards but you cannot touch type?
For f*ck sakes that sound is so delicious
IN THE NAME OF KANE!
If only this had classy PBT keycaps...
wth they went from the awesome switches to the W1 (still typing on them) to this linear crap? :(
It pains me to watch this because I won't be receiving mine for another 2-3 months =|
*Edit* - Wow, I agree with your suggestion for them to implement *double* *tapping* *a* *key* *to* *enable* *the* *toggle* *key* *feature.*
That nodvpn intro was awesome
how come you're so into keyboards but never the custom mechanical type?
Doesn't like MX-type switches whatsoever, doesn't really like expensive keyboards (like proper custom $400+ board levels) and finds that side of the hobby boring. Though part of that is he's a boomer, and the other part is keyboards are almost entirely subjective.
@@derkaiser9881 that clears it up, thanks
hes more of that standard enthusiast like vintage models and the more unconventional things ay?
Utrecht?
Surely you must be a bit Patriotic when Max V wins the Dutch GP? 😎 Lekker!
Nope & I got stuck in a train full of supporters and had to stand up for an hour xD
I personally use a 60%, but that’s pretty much just because I use a laptop and don’t need that many keys. If I actually daily drove a 60% on a desktop, then lord help me ;-;
the typing sound sounds a little... squeaky. That's weird