"This keyboard is an expensive, eye-watering..." Oh no, is it over 400? 500? "... 270$" Oh. Okay. Yes that is definitely pricey and my frame of reference is not warped at all.
@@Chyrosran22 I agree, Razer's software can be either unnecessary or straight up annoying! I own a Razer Kiyo and every time i plug it in a new computer, it's built-in software installer keeps asking me to install it's REALLY unnecessary software because who the fuck needs Synapse or dedicated software for a webcam anyways when i use it on OBS with default settings anyways. It's such a H I D E O U S thing to do to your customers for a webcam that's 60 fps but ONLY at 720p. Ugh!
@@LermaBean Wow, youtube surely is worse than the CCP huh Anyways, synapse is required for some stuff, let's say you don't have an account and need to set one of the profiles to 20000dpi. Well, you kind of need Synapse to set the highest dpi profile to 20000. Or if you wanna customize the behaviour on some products? Well, you gotta do it. The thing is that Windows is probably the one at fault here, because it's automatically installing the drivers. Not the hardware itself.
I'm about to try it. Lol Half the time I get on the computer and my keyboard updated its self and I can't use it for a few mins and it gotta restart the computer. He said it has on board memory so ima see
I was wondering weather you would review this one, I'm glad you did. The keyboard sound is so good, so specific, that I feel like I could recognize it blindly, subjectively speaking. It's almost as soothing as your voice sir. I can't believe how narrative your voice is, hopefully that makes any sense and it's not super weird. I can imagine your audio books(narrated by) selling like hot cakes. 🙄 Cheers
It seems Razer also improved their stabs on this one... The space bar sounded much less rattly on this one compared to the previous version (even compared to the Huntsman Mini).
@@pkopo1 😂 Yes... But then its a production board... So, you know you're never getting angels singing out of its stabs unless you seriously mod them. Which is doable on these Razer boards by the way (contrary to what I've heard before). I've done it myself on a Huntsman Mini and have the video to prove it (on my channel). It is still not as good as modded Durock or GMK stabs of course, but it got close enough (to a point that I can use it on a daily basis for actual work if I need it).
@@pkopo1 These definitely have very good stabs out of the box (if compared to your average Razer or Logitech), because they come pre-lubed (I have a Durgod Taurus TKL and its stabs came heavily lubed). But even these are not perfect and can still be greatly improved (to get closer to custom keyboards level) if you go through the trouble of modding them as well, usually by clipping and/or "band-aiding" the stabs. But anyway... It seems that the average consumer doesn't care too much about stabs rattle or otherwise most brands would do a better job of it. And that's why it is still such a rare thing to find keyboards that come with at least decent stabs out of the box.
@@pkopo1 I'd say this is pretty good for a production line keyboard out-of-the-box. In fact this is about as good as you're going to get so why say unless you don't want to have to go through the hassle of taking this board apart which is already an eye-watering process an absolutely a piss staggeringly annoying considering the screws are underneath the rubber on the bottom so for a auto electric keyboard that's being made in modern-day this is actually really good
I got to try one of these just a few days ago and let me tell you, it is the one and only board with linears that I genuinely enjoyed. A Corsair K100 was also there and the key travel and weighting killed it for me. The Huntsman felt solid. The smoothness was definitely on par between the two, but the Huntsman was better balanced in my opinion. I've been using my Model M exclusively for a few weeks now and I'm used to the heavy weight, so the Huntsman just felt right when I tried it and the clack of the keys bottoming out was excellent. If it wasn't so damn expensive, I would've bought one that day.
I'm glad they actually went for standard bottom row keycaps. While the bottom row for the original huntsman elite is still pretty common, more options are really nice.
I got to use one in Akihabara… it really does sound leagues better than any other gamer brand or Chinese knockoff keyboard, if only because it doesn’t have much stab rattle (and what little there is immediately goes away with some dielectric). The case is also pretty solid, so it’s a surprisingly thocky, premium-feeling keyboard, for the same effort nothing else exists on the market. You COULD make something superior using thin lube and switch films on an amenable linear then using an extremely high quality case/plate/PCB, but that’s months of waiting for parts to arrive and tens, maybe even hundreds of hours of work to assemble.
The 1mm with ultra light weight was what gave me headaches with the Corsair k100, I was constantly accidentally activating. Picked this up for $160 new and I think it's a winner there
One reason for the USB-C connector is for laptops, motherboards with type-C ports, which are becoming more common, and because it makes the keyboard more premium.
@@Mboy556 well yeah but between the shipping cost, tax, custom fees, and not to mention how long it'll arrive. It's still a lot more convenient to have a local distributor. Makes paying for it a lot easier too since i don't have a credit card or paypal 😅
These "high end" keybs are all fine and dandy. But personally I would like some more reviews of good 30 dollars keybs (for the cheap of us). Btw, what is that nice clone board?
I have this keyboard and i can confirm that it does not buzz for me. That was really strange when i heard it from him, perhaps he got a faulty model? But yeah i definitely would sell this imediately if I heard it buzzing
My goodness - I went out and bought the v2 today, and just got done lubing the switches with super lube... There are seriously no words to describe how smooth and beautiful sounding these are. MX switches are now a complete and utter joke to me... This is seriously some next level shit... I've built and typed on $1000 keyboards before, and this is hands down better in ever possible way... I will make a crappy little video to tell my story, FWIW. Your channel is the best, please keep up the amazing work. ;-)
The USB C is most likely for connecting it to your laptop. Thin and light laptops start to omit regular USB ports more and more. Or maybe it is for the Apple crowd where USB C is the norm.
I mean Type C would have proliferated sooner or later. Its been on android and choe devices for ages, apple was ahead of laptop oems, and now USB4 is type c connector only
@@kornaros96 Why would they have? Apple customers clearly don't care. Besides they are doing it slowly, Macbooks, Imacs, even thr Ipad are switching or have switched to USB C. Only the phones are left out. For now.
I've been looking for a nice linear to use alongside my F77 that's in a 100% form factor... This might be it! Surprising as I've always had bad experiences with Razer products...
yep, never letting synapse or icue cancer on my computer. Sucks because i much prefer 108 style keyboards, and they have to have a dedicated volume and mute. Wooting does on on their full sizes. Steel series HAL for me.
Hope they get their delivery issues on Wooting Two Lekker and the plain HE editions sorted out. Using Wooting One TKL at the moment with custom caps. (matt3o.com/about-mt3-profile-and-devtty-set/) Pretty happy with it, plus Wooting’s sw does not suck. I will probably get a Wooting TKL HE if that ever materialises.
One thing I really, really liked about this keyboard and the only thing I really miss is the texture of the keycaps. They felt so rough and grippy for PBT but not in that rubberised kind of way… maybe a bit more like soft sand paper. Felt really premium to type on and a bit reminiscent of older keebs.
I purchased this keyboard v2 analog the same day it came out in the UK. overall it is a great keyboard, yes the software had/has its own issues and the background processes are there, but currently typing the software is improved somewhat since the keyboard was released. the RGB does look weak because of the original key caps, Razer has DPT keys that is sold seperately for this exact keyboard, i bought the murcury white set and i have to say the keyboard looks and feels considerably better, the RGB is on point now. wrist wrest has no issues with mine, also NO other issue shown in this video with the one i got. after using the Razer huntsman v2 Analog for just over a year, i can proudly rate it at (9 out of 10) buy it when it's on discount, recently i saw it go for £170, it is well worth it then for sure! RRP price in the UK is £250
Synapse is either written in some modern and trendy scripting language, so the devs' fingers won't fall off from typing in type declarations but quite slow compared to languages compiling to machine code, or uses the also modern and trendy functional programming paradigm, which wastes money by minimizing mutable states and working by passing around the program state instead. Maybe even both. My D apps usually get to around 70-100MB, but its because I'm using an automatic garbage collector that doesn't immediately gives back all the RAM once it finished its job, instead it holds it as a reserve.
Man this is the best review I saw. Critical, informative and honest. Big shoutout for the rgb buzz sound, I'm very sensitive to that, I can hear phone chargers etc. Does it store rgb settings on board memory as well
It is literally worse than $30 aliexpress keyboards on the onboard memory subject. It has onboard memory but you can't save any lighting setting to it. I bought the normal one (huntsman v2) and now i'm returning it. It is a $150 keyboard but it needs app to do everything which uses min 300mb of ram for nothing.
Oh man Razer finally stopped doing weird F-key spacing for no goddamn reason. I always thought analog switches should finally provide custom hysteresis. Good to see. Especially since outside of cherry blue clones and buckling springs it's a pretty rare feature.
I got this keyboard for Christmas and I'm really enjoying it so far. The Synapse software seems to be a bit of a learning curve as I'm completely new to gaming keyboards but I think I'll get the hang of it. And the RGB colors really pop on my keyboard but that could have something to do with the fact that my keyboard is placed on a black desk and I don't really have the best lamp light in my living room either so that could cause the RGB colors to be brighter than they maybe would be if my desk was white and if I had other light sources around me that would take the focus away from the RGB colors. Overall I feel that this is a very solid product worth the high price and I'm definitely satisfied with it.
Compared to what some people in the custom MX side of the hobby spend on limited run groupbuy parts and keycap colorways, this kind of price is still sort of ok. Do the individually stablized 1U keys get rattly over use though? I guess since the V2 is actually more usable for you now, you can try doing more long-term use to see if it holds up over time. I think Razer has an overall pretty smart approach to all this. They know that most of the enthusiasts they got feedback from will never give up their MX switches and Krytox lube, so Razer is clearly still targeting the more casual gamer demographic but introducing a more understated aesthetic to make their own up-market niche with opto-electric switches.
Ad USB type C. Some latest MOBOs and USB controllers have USB Type-C also with high-speed version of USB protocol version; maybe they simply wanted to make use of that (and hopefully added the good looking adapter). But IMHO that also affect price. As well as the lightening on the rest... Funny tho, if that wrist rest would be with temp control one day XD (some matrix of Peltier plate and temp follow actuation).
Greetings, thanks for the wonderful review. I saw you uninstalled Synapse, but can the keyboard store also the RGB profile in its onboard memory ? Thanks.
11:03 Technically you can use it. Keyboard HID drivers are somewhat universal (especially on Android). The keyboard would just use the settings saved into its memory.
@@Chyrosran22 joke's on them. Last year I relied on my Nokia 6.1 to complete my assignments because my machine's Pentium D was done, and I didn't had a laptop.
A little bit of case ping and some stabiliser rattle, but other than that also doesn't sound too bad to type on. Genuine quality from razer thumbs up on entering the big boy leagues!
About the usb C thing, I think it's quite a good idea. The world is moving to the usb C port. Certainly on Laptops. Soms ultrabooks and hybrids already only come with usb c ports. Easier to implement as they're a lot smaller. Phone wise, I think most phones do actually support keyboard input via the USB C port.
There has been nothing to do with phone software itself since there is generic driver for it, but the big roadblock is the phone voltage. I still remembered the day my friend plugged the mouse into the phone and it just died, LOL, gladly that after unplugged the mouse the phone was still working.
@@MrMarty77 well mine is using 2.0 standard but doesn't die when I connect mouse and keyboard. But I also didn't tested on what amperage it limits, but I figure that would be 1A.
@@kilo_imm From what I’ve seen, there’s less play in the components, that’s probably a lot of it. Basically, less wobble and stab rattle than v1 for a clean, thocky sound.
I have one of the V2 Huntsmans with the clicky optical switches, it's a really nice keyboard, nice light click (see what I did there?), but hearing that they released this.....well after I got this board........annoys me slightly, because I got the wrong board? Oh well, I'll keep on keepin' on with this board until either it goes, or I go (whichever comes first)
Was the humming/buzzing there upon using the Keyboard first up, as I am wondering if Earthing on the Keyboard is an issue or if any damage had been done after your USB 1 to 3 issue? However, I think the price for the Keyboard is a disgrace … Cheers for the video bud :-)
That board actually sounds really nice. Sound tests of the original sounded like shit, so good job Razer. With the adjustable actuation I could see myselfing getting this if they release a TKL version.
I tried one of these out and the super smoothness turned me on to linear. I was originally going to go with Box Jades or Clickiez for my next switch. But this has made me want to try a smooth linear. I'll be getting a board and some creams soon to give it a go. My main keyboard is one with razer green switches, and one day I plan to desolder all of those and put in my next switch. I dunno why, I guess I just like the headphone passthrough it has...
The day razer fixes synapse and has lots of onboard memory to save presets/programming/etc..., i'll get a keyboard from them. It's sad because the only problm i have is the software and the lack of onboard sufficient mem
I agree man, decent board, but with every one of their products with software compatibility Im immediatly reminded of that dreaded synapse and it just repels me everytime
Thx! Nice review of an surprisingly interesting board. Would be great with a comparison pros/cons video of this, Apex and Wooting. Synapse does indeed suck chocolate covered monkey balls. Wooting’s software is refreshingly nice though, well compared to Synapse at least. Hope you get a chance to review the new board(s) from Wooting with the new switch, if they ever stop being promise boards.
You mentioned the clicky version being analog wouldn't be especially helpful since the clickiness and tactile event line up with the actuation. So would a clicky version of the first version be a better choice than getting the version 2 if you don't care about analog or the tournament edition linear?
I dont actually mind bad peripheral software as long as I can save everything to the device and delete the program. That's why i chose the g pro wireless over the razer viper ultimate. I turn off the rgb to save battery, and the viper ultimate doesnt store any rgb settings onboard, so i would have to have the software running just to disable the rgb
6:01 Alright, what do they do? Are they sending telemetry data back to Razer? You might be able to spin up Wireshark to see if you can see any TCP connections with packets moving back and forth.
I love that it has PBT, but those legends, the bad lighting and of course the software would kill it for me. And after buying a Wooting One for 110 euro at a reseller...
the usb c connector is probably for use with small ultra books or laptops in general, there are still a lot of markets where using your laptop as a pc is quite common because of space constraints/pc part prices
Hi . Thank you for your time. I am looking for a silent keyboard and I found a few, and my first choice was RAZER HUNTSMAN V2 . But I'm confused and I don't know whether the red buttons are quieter or the black buttons! Please guide me which colors are quieter
All Android phones do, in fact, support connecting a keyboard and mouse (they don't strip whatever keyboard/mouse drivers from the kernel and so it just works).
(Not) all Android phones do, my friend one is a great example. If the phone uses too few voltage to operate then it will likely not support external devices, or the worst is shut down the phone instantly.
I have a Huntsman mk1, i love it for gaming, is reactive and while i'm gaming i have very control over my finger and i didn't have any problem with it, but I play more fps, so maybe in other types of game you could have some issues, but realy is more or less habit, the problem was in typing, and not for the resting position, i don't have any trouble in that, in my language, italian, i have around 75/80 wpm with 97/98% precision, but with this keyboard gives me so much trouble, now i'm getting allways more precise, but at the beggining was a total disaster, that drove me crazy, but the feeling of the switch is top notch, i love it!
Nice. I'd kill to see your opinion on the EVGA Z15 and or Z20 keyboard. The Z15 is a hot swap full size with media controls, and the Z20 uses LK light strike switches and has media controls and usb passthrough.
When you got to the USB 3 issues all I could think was "Ah so that's where they hid the Razer jank at" Seriously for the premium that Razer asks for so many of their products I expect shit to work right and not fail prematurely like I've seen so many of their mice do on other people. Don't even get me started on the arcade stick they did as their control boards like to randomly keel over and there are much better arcade sticks for the price they ask for it.
do you know good silent mechanical keyboards? this seems a bit loud to be honest, i mean in long term i could imagine to not liking it, cause its just so loud it seems... is the apex pro more quiet?
Those obnoxious background programs wrapped inside Razer's Synapse crap, are just one of the few things why I stopped using their mediocre, sub par peripherals long ago.
You keep confusing the names I think. This is neither the Hunstman Elite, nor the Hunstman V2. Those are different keyboards. This is the Huntsman V2 Analog.
_"I'd say marketing a MX based board in the high end segment is now made virtually impossible."_ lol, there will always be enough snobby aging neckbeards to keep Ducky and MX Leopolds in business.
"This keyboard is an expensive, eye-watering..."
Oh no, is it over 400? 500?
"... 270$"
Oh. Okay. Yes that is definitely pricey and my frame of reference is not warped at all.
It's cheaper than my trusty Realforce! Good enough!
Nobody really cares about folks so deep in that consumerism rabbit hole to spend hundreds of dollars in colored plastic
IT’S OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!!! 🔥 💥💥💥💥💥💥🤯
_sorry, couldn’t help myself._
_edit: added italics_
I was not expecting a lemongrab impression but I’m glad it was by this lovely man
you seem genuinely happy when deleting the software lmao, love that
Yup, SUPERBYE!
@@Chyrosran22
I agree, Razer's software can be either unnecessary or straight up annoying! I own a Razer Kiyo and every time i plug it in a new computer, it's built-in software installer keeps asking me to install it's REALLY unnecessary software because who the fuck needs Synapse or dedicated software for a webcam anyways when i use it on OBS with default settings anyways. It's such a H I D E O U S thing to do to your customers for a webcam that's 60 fps but ONLY at 720p. Ugh!
@@LermaBean Wow, youtube surely is worse than the CCP huh
Anyways, synapse is required for some stuff, let's say you don't have an account and need to set one of the profiles to 20000dpi. Well, you kind of need Synapse to set the highest dpi profile to 20000.
Or if you wanna customize the behaviour on some products? Well, you gotta do it.
The thing is that Windows is probably the one at fault here, because it's automatically installing the drivers. Not the hardware itself.
I'm about to try it. Lol Half the time I get on the computer and my keyboard updated its self and I can't use it for a few mins and it gotta restart the computer. He said it has on board memory so ima see
Yea the software is annoying
"12 gallons of deep-fried freedom" one of your best
Unfortunately muricans might actually like that one.
It needs to be a bit more insulting imo.
@@delphicdescant lmao
Still no spaghetti in this review. I consider that Thomas's all time high.
"Freedom units"
I need that on a shirt
I was wondering weather you would review this one, I'm glad you did. The keyboard sound is so good, so specific, that I feel like I could recognize it blindly, subjectively speaking. It's almost as soothing as your voice sir. I can't believe how narrative your voice is, hopefully that makes any sense and it's not super weird. I can imagine your audio books(narrated by) selling like hot cakes. 🙄
Cheers
Haha cheers mate xD .
I wonder how could you like that spacebar sound though. This one would drive me absolutely crazy.
@@impointr it actually sounds a lot better than I thought it would, maybe the smallest bit of rattle but really good
It seems Razer also improved their stabs on this one... The space bar sounded much less rattly on this one compared to the previous version (even compared to the Huntsman Mini).
improved but still pretty crap
@@pkopo1 😂 Yes... But then its a production board... So, you know you're never getting angels singing out of its stabs unless you seriously mod them. Which is doable on these Razer boards by the way (contrary to what I've heard before).
I've done it myself on a Huntsman Mini and have the video to prove it (on my channel). It is still not as good as modded Durock or GMK stabs of course, but it got close enough (to a point that I can use it on a daily basis for actual work if I need it).
@@IOSam durgod, varmilo and leopold for example have absolutely amazing stabs stock, no modding needed
@@pkopo1 These definitely have very good stabs out of the box (if compared to your average Razer or Logitech), because they come pre-lubed (I have a Durgod Taurus TKL and its stabs came heavily lubed). But even these are not perfect and can still be greatly improved (to get closer to custom keyboards level) if you go through the trouble of modding them as well, usually by clipping and/or "band-aiding" the stabs.
But anyway... It seems that the average consumer doesn't care too much about stabs rattle or otherwise most brands would do a better job of it. And that's why it is still such a rare thing to find keyboards that come with at least decent stabs out of the box.
@@pkopo1 I'd say this is pretty good for a production line keyboard out-of-the-box. In fact this is about as good as you're going to get so why say unless you don't want to have to go through the hassle of taking this board apart which is already an eye-watering process an absolutely a piss staggeringly annoying considering the screws are underneath the rubber on the bottom so for a auto electric keyboard that's being made in modern-day this is actually really good
Click Daddy back with another banger
I got to try one of these just a few days ago and let me tell you, it is the one and only board with linears that I genuinely enjoyed. A Corsair K100 was also there and the key travel and weighting killed it for me. The Huntsman felt solid. The smoothness was definitely on par between the two, but the Huntsman was better balanced in my opinion. I've been using my Model M exclusively for a few weeks now and I'm used to the heavy weight, so the Huntsman just felt right when I tried it and the clack of the keys bottoming out was excellent. If it wasn't so damn expensive, I would've bought one that day.
It’s half price from Razer’s Amazon store atm if you’re still interested
I'm glad they actually went for standard bottom row keycaps. While the bottom row for the original huntsman elite is still pretty common, more options are really nice.
I loved that American accent at 6:41 xD
it sound dutch to me lol
oh that space button is nice, no rattling
I got to use one in Akihabara… it really does sound leagues better than any other gamer brand or Chinese knockoff keyboard, if only because it doesn’t have much stab rattle (and what little there is immediately goes away with some dielectric). The case is also pretty solid, so it’s a surprisingly thocky, premium-feeling keyboard, for the same effort nothing else exists on the market.
You COULD make something superior using thin lube and switch films on an amenable linear then using an extremely high quality case/plate/PCB, but that’s months of waiting for parts to arrive and tens, maybe even hundreds of hours of work to assemble.
The 1mm with ultra light weight was what gave me headaches with the Corsair k100, I was constantly accidentally activating. Picked this up for $160 new and I think it's a winner there
I always feel at ease watching your videos when I’m stressed :)
His voice helps me sleep :$
It's the voice, so soothing.
I'm a bit late, but this was a really great review mate, it was honestly hard to find a comprehensive one like this for the v2 analog.
One reason for the USB-C connector is for laptops, motherboards with type-C ports, which are becoming more common, and because it makes the keyboard more premium.
I always look forward to your Imperial unit conversions.
Wooting is much better value then the new Analog Huntsman tho
they also have macros, and it works well :D + It doesn't have to stay opened.
Wooting gang represent!
I'm kinda bummed out that wooting's not available in my country :(
@@MrBlitzpunk don't they have world wide shipping?
@@Mboy556 well yeah but between the shipping cost, tax, custom fees, and not to mention how long it'll arrive. It's still a lot more convenient to have a local distributor.
Makes paying for it a lot easier too since i don't have a credit card or paypal 😅
6:17 I never thought I would hear that from you LOL
nice review xD
These "high end" keybs are all fine and dandy. But personally I would like some more reviews of good 30 dollars keybs (for the cheap of us). Btw, what is that nice clone board?
I will definitely never do another cheap clone board on this channel again.
The one in this video is the Lingbao I reviewed ages ago.
@@Chyrosran22 I sort of enjoy hauling out the ling bao every so often... it's like a good bad movie.
The keyboard buzzes? Wow if nothing else killed it, that did. That would drive me nuts
I have this keyboard and i can confirm that it does not buzz for me. That was really strange when i heard it from him, perhaps he got a faulty model? But yeah i definitely would sell this imediately if I heard it buzzing
doesn't buzz for me either
You can’t hear it. I can’t hear mine.
it's a TINY little buzz, at least for mine. it has to be absolutely dead silent in your room to hear it with your ear up close.
Came for the keyboard review, stayed for the voice. Any chance you'd review some bedtime stories!?
The typing sound was pretty compelling too. Unlike most other premium boards, there is a chance of trying one at a store. Thanks.
Agree. And unlike many other premium boards, it's not designed to deafen you.
The lemongrab "unacceptable" scream threw me off and had me laughing for the rest of the video goddamnit!!
My goodness - I went out and bought the v2 today, and just got done lubing the switches with super lube...
There are seriously no words to describe how smooth and beautiful sounding these are.
MX switches are now a complete and utter joke to me... This is seriously some next level shit... I've built and typed on $1000 keyboards before, and this is hands down better in ever possible way...
I will make a crappy little video to tell my story, FWIW. Your channel is the best, please keep up the amazing work. ;-)
The USB C is most likely for connecting it to your laptop. Thin and light laptops start to omit regular USB ports more and more. Or maybe it is for the Apple crowd where USB C is the norm.
I mean Type C would have proliferated sooner or later. Its been on android and choe devices for ages, apple was ahead of laptop oems, and now USB4 is type c connector only
If type C was the norm in the Apple crowd, then Apple would have already ditched the lighting
@@kornaros96 Why would they have? Apple customers clearly don't care. Besides they are doing it slowly, Macbooks, Imacs, even thr Ipad are switching or have switched to USB C. Only the phones are left out. For now.
@@sandorbence2067 the party ends on 2024. EU directive with put them back to straight road. Even if they go full wireless.
As an American I can verify that the weight "twelve gallons of deep fried freedom" is appropriate here
Yee Haw cuz!
This video just gets me more hyped for the upcoming video on the Wooting 2 Lekker Edition 😄 Got mine earlier this week!
I've been looking for a nice linear to use alongside my F77 that's in a 100% form factor... This might be it! Surprising as I've always had bad experiences with Razer products...
It's got Synapse, so nah... Looking forward to the Wooting two Lekker Edition :)
yep, never letting synapse or icue cancer on my computer.
Sucks because i much prefer 108 style keyboards, and they have to have a dedicated volume and mute.
Wooting does on on their full sizes. Steel series HAL for me.
Hope they get their delivery issues on Wooting Two Lekker and the plain HE editions sorted out. Using Wooting One TKL at the moment with custom caps. (matt3o.com/about-mt3-profile-and-devtty-set/) Pretty happy with it, plus Wooting’s sw does not suck. I will probably get a Wooting TKL HE if that ever materialises.
@@rydmike Nice! I also have a Wooting One TKL, still with the default caps.
It's crazy how well Razer has gotten their shit together in the last 5-6 years.
It really is. Though the real question is when are they going to do the same with their software xD
One thing I really, really liked about this keyboard and the only thing I really miss is the texture of the keycaps. They felt so rough and grippy for PBT but not in that rubberised kind of way… maybe a bit more like soft sand paper. Felt really premium to type on and a bit reminiscent of older keebs.
I purchased this keyboard v2 analog the same day it came out in the UK. overall it is a great keyboard, yes the software had/has its own issues and the background processes are there, but currently typing the software is improved somewhat since the keyboard was released. the RGB does look weak because of the original key caps, Razer has DPT keys that is sold seperately for this exact keyboard, i bought the murcury white set and i have to say the keyboard looks and feels considerably better, the RGB is on point now. wrist wrest has no issues with mine, also NO other issue shown in this video with the one i got. after using the Razer huntsman v2 Analog for just over a year, i can proudly rate it at (9 out of 10) buy it when it's on discount, recently i saw it go for £170, it is well worth it then for sure! RRP price in the UK is £250
your videos are always a treat
Synapse is either written in some modern and trendy scripting language, so the devs' fingers won't fall off from typing in type declarations but quite slow compared to languages compiling to machine code, or uses the also modern and trendy functional programming paradigm, which wastes money by minimizing mutable states and working by passing around the program state instead. Maybe even both.
My D apps usually get to around 70-100MB, but its because I'm using an automatic garbage collector that doesn't immediately gives back all the RAM once it finished its job, instead it holds it as a reserve.
Most likely it's written on one of those web engines, such as electron, which bundles an entire web browser, that would explain the high memory usage
Thanks for your reviews, very interesting! So, in your opinion, Huntsman V2, K100 or Apex Pro?
Man, I can't believe I missed TWO videos from you thanks to RUclips's lousy recommendation feed.
I trust Wooting to make good software for their keyboards.
Man this is the best review I saw. Critical, informative and honest. Big shoutout for the rgb buzz sound, I'm very sensitive to that, I can hear phone chargers etc.
Does it store rgb settings on board memory as well
It is literally worse than $30 aliexpress keyboards on the onboard memory subject. It has onboard memory but you can't save any lighting setting to it. I bought the normal one (huntsman v2) and now i'm returning it. It is a $150 keyboard but it needs app to do everything which uses min 300mb of ram for nothing.
@@johnlocke6950 I went for the Asus Claimore 2 I dont't think it has on board memory as well but its a very nice keyboard overall.
Razer has had a very interesting character arc in the chyrosran22 lore
Oh man Razer finally stopped doing weird F-key spacing for no goddamn reason.
I always thought analog switches should finally provide custom hysteresis. Good to see. Especially since outside of cherry blue clones and buckling springs it's a pretty rare feature.
Just found this video... and that voice tho! oh damn eargasm :3
As an American, I always appreciate the use of proper measurements!
(all jokes aside why can't we just use metric? It's so much easier)
That's the thing. When measured in US units, US units are clearly superior. When measured in metric, the US units are exactly the same.
I got this keyboard for Christmas and I'm really enjoying it so far. The Synapse software seems to be a bit of a learning curve as I'm completely new to gaming keyboards but I think I'll get the hang of it. And the RGB colors really pop on my keyboard but that could have something to do with the fact that my keyboard is placed on a black desk and I don't really have the best lamp light in my living room either so that could cause the RGB colors to be brighter than they maybe would be if my desk was white and if I had other light sources around me that would take the focus away from the RGB colors. Overall I feel that this is a very solid product worth the high price and I'm definitely satisfied with it.
Compared to what some people in the custom MX side of the hobby spend on limited run groupbuy parts and keycap colorways, this kind of price is still sort of ok. Do the individually stablized 1U keys get rattly over use though? I guess since the V2 is actually more usable for you now, you can try doing more long-term use to see if it holds up over time.
I think Razer has an overall pretty smart approach to all this. They know that most of the enthusiasts they got feedback from will never give up their MX switches and Krytox lube, so Razer is clearly still targeting the more casual gamer demographic but introducing a more understated aesthetic to make their own up-market niche with opto-electric switches.
Tbh these make way more sense for gaming than mx switches
The adjustable actuation is a winner.
Spirit of the Old School lives only in contactless switches. Yeah!
that looks pretty nice ngl... but coil whine on a keyboard... that's a hard pass lol... 😂
Gotta love those electron apps :)
Ad USB type C. Some latest MOBOs and USB controllers have USB Type-C also with high-speed version of USB protocol version; maybe they simply wanted to make use of that (and hopefully added the good looking adapter).
But IMHO that also affect price. As well as the lightening on the rest...
Funny tho, if that wrist rest would be with temp control one day XD (some matrix of Peltier plate and temp follow actuation).
Greetings, thanks for the wonderful review. I saw you uninstalled Synapse, but can the keyboard store also the RGB profile in its onboard memory ? Thanks.
It only stores one profile, if you want to reprogram you will need to Synapse anyway. If you are on Linux, you can try 'openrazer'
11:03 Technically you can use it. Keyboard HID drivers are somewhat universal (especially on Android). The keyboard would just use the settings saved into its memory.
Not all phones allow external devices to be attached. Iphones for example don't, as don't many others.
@@Chyrosran22 Well, there comes Android which allows it since ... 2011.
@@Chyrosran22 Most modern PC's have actually at least 1 USB type C port these days.
@@Chyrosran22 joke's on them. Last year I relied on my Nokia 6.1 to complete my assignments because my machine's Pentium D was done, and I didn't had a laptop.
@@kornaros96 lul i use my varmilo miya AND my wireless mouse through a usb hub on my note 20 ultra through dex, android ftw
A little bit of case ping and some stabiliser rattle, but other than that also doesn't sound too bad to type on.
Genuine quality from razer thumbs up on entering the big boy leagues!
About the usb C thing, I think it's quite a good idea. The world is moving to the usb C port. Certainly on Laptops. Soms ultrabooks and hybrids already only come with usb c ports. Easier to implement as they're a lot smaller.
Phone wise, I think most phones do actually support keyboard input via the USB C port.
There has been nothing to do with phone software itself since there is generic driver for it, but the big roadblock is the phone voltage. I still remembered the day my friend plugged the mouse into the phone and it just died, LOL, gladly that after unplugged the mouse the phone was still working.
@@nathanlamaire then that phone must have been using the usb 2.0 standard, no?
@@MrMarty77 well mine is using 2.0 standard but doesn't die when I connect mouse and keyboard. But I also didn't tested on what amperage it limits, but I figure that would be 1A.
How would you pick between this board and the Steelseries Apex Pro?
I burst out singing händels hallelujah chorus when I saw this in my recommended
6:18 Was that an Ashens reference? Loved it.
That's a pretty nice typing sound...
Agree. I'd dampen the spacebar but I'd do that with pretty much any keyboard.
add some SA keycaps and it would sound thoccky
Very clacky, but it a kinda pleasant way...
@@TommyFenstermacher5150 yeah... it seems just as clacky as the v1, but it sounds a lot nicer. probably has something to do with the stiffer spring.
@@kilo_imm From what I’ve seen, there’s less play in the components, that’s probably a lot of it. Basically, less wobble and stab rattle than v1 for a clean, thocky sound.
I have one of the V2 Huntsmans with the clicky optical switches, it's a really nice keyboard, nice light click (see what I did there?), but hearing that they released this.....well after I got this board........annoys me slightly, because I got the wrong board? Oh well, I'll keep on keepin' on with this board until either it goes, or I go (whichever comes first)
Was the humming/buzzing there upon using the Keyboard first up, as I am wondering if Earthing on the Keyboard is an issue or if any damage had been done after your USB 1 to 3 issue? However, I think the price for the Keyboard is a disgrace … Cheers for the video bud :-)
That board actually sounds really nice. Sound tests of the original sounded like shit, so good job Razer. With the adjustable actuation I could see myselfing getting this if they release a TKL version.
I tried one of these out and the super smoothness turned me on to linear.
I was originally going to go with Box Jades or Clickiez for my next switch. But this has made me want to try a smooth linear. I'll be getting a board and some creams soon to give it a go.
My main keyboard is one with razer green switches, and one day I plan to desolder all of those and put in my next switch.
I dunno why, I guess I just like the headphone passthrough it has...
I like the first version of this keyboard with the purple switches but I don’t game just pure typing. I own both the huntsman elite and the v2
6:17 Oh I just loved this Lemongrab imitation. Adventure Time is my favorite cartoon ever
The day razer fixes synapse and has lots of onboard memory to save presets/programming/etc..., i'll get a keyboard from them. It's sad because the only problm i have is the software and the lack of onboard sufficient mem
I agree man, decent board, but with every one of their products with software compatibility Im immediatly reminded of that dreaded synapse and it just repels me everytime
you convinced me to buy TE edition. i instantly bought it when it was on sale for 100$
Lol i love your reviews. Always make me bust out laughing. I have the v1 TE. Actually love the short actuation. But to each their own.
Thx! Nice review of an surprisingly interesting board. Would be great with a comparison pros/cons video of this, Apex and Wooting. Synapse does indeed suck chocolate covered monkey balls. Wooting’s software is refreshingly nice though, well compared to Synapse at least. Hope you get a chance to review the new board(s) from Wooting with the new switch, if they ever stop being promise boards.
You mentioned the clicky version being analog wouldn't be especially helpful since the clickiness and tactile event line up with the actuation. So would a clicky version of the first version be a better choice than getting the version 2 if you don't care about analog or the tournament edition linear?
Have you ever had any interest in the high-end custom space, If you don't, why?
Excellent humour, great vid helped alot. Many tanks.
I dont actually mind bad peripheral software as long as I can save everything to the device and delete the program. That's why i chose the g pro wireless over the razer viper ultimate. I turn off the rgb to save battery, and the viper ultimate doesnt store any rgb settings onboard, so i would have to have the software running just to disable the rgb
Will you review the lekker keyboard?
I was waiting for this
6:01 Alright, what do they do? Are they sending telemetry data back to Razer?
You might be able to spin up Wireshark to see if you can see any TCP connections with packets moving back and forth.
I love that it has PBT, but those legends, the bad lighting and of course the software would kill it for me. And after buying a Wooting One for 110 euro at a reseller...
the usb c connector is probably for use with small ultra books or laptops in general, there are still a lot of markets where using your laptop as a pc is quite common because of space constraints/pc part prices
I would also mention that razer synapse 3.0 only works on windows. As a Linux user I just bought a very expensive linear keyboard.
Hi . Thank you for your time.
I am looking for a silent keyboard and I found a few, and my first choice was RAZER HUNTSMAN V2 .
But I'm confused and I don't know whether the red buttons are quieter or the black buttons!
Please guide me which colors are quieter
All Android phones do, in fact, support connecting a keyboard and mouse (they don't strip whatever keyboard/mouse drivers from the kernel and so it just works).
The iPhone at least supports a keyboard
(Not) all Android phones do, my friend one is a great example. If the phone uses too few voltage to operate then it will likely not support external devices, or the worst is shut down the phone instantly.
I have a Huntsman mk1, i love it for gaming, is reactive and while i'm gaming i have very control over my finger and i didn't have any problem with it, but I play more fps, so maybe in other types of game you could have some issues, but realy is more or less habit, the problem was in typing, and not for the resting position, i don't have any trouble in that, in my language, italian, i have around 75/80 wpm with 97/98% precision, but with this keyboard gives me so much trouble, now i'm getting allways more precise, but at the beggining was a total disaster, that drove me crazy, but the feeling of the switch is top notch, i love it!
How about the new Asus Azoth? That artifact seems interesting
How did you save the lighting to the keyboard and then manage to keep it once synapse uninstalled?
Nice. I'd kill to see your opinion on the EVGA Z15 and or Z20 keyboard. The Z15 is a hot swap full size with media controls, and the Z20 uses LK light strike switches and has media controls and usb passthrough.
Have you ever had a “drift issue”? Sometimes I have to keep pushing awsd depending where it’s moving to stop the drift
Yikes...
All android phones support keyboards, even shortcuts works it's really nice you can alt-tab and all
It even sounds nice, nice.
im new to this pc stuff but this keyboard sounds so good from what i have seen
Long-term reliability will be the question. I haven't had good luck with Razer hardware.
so this thing will let you walk before you run like a joystick in halo?
When you got to the USB 3 issues all I could think was "Ah so that's where they hid the Razer jank at" Seriously for the premium that Razer asks for so many of their products I expect shit to work right and not fail prematurely like I've seen so many of their mice do on other people. Don't even get me started on the arcade stick they did as their control boards like to randomly keel over and there are much better arcade sticks for the price they ask for it.
do you know good silent mechanical keyboards? this seems a bit loud to be honest, i mean in long term i could imagine to not liking it, cause its just so loud it seems... is the apex pro more quiet?
@Nighthawk thanks
If caps lock is pressed, does it light up the key, or a separate indicator (preferred)?
You mentioned that the RGB is pretty weak on this keyboard. What keyboard would you recommend for RGB reasons from Razer, and non-razer?
Razer Huntsman v2 vs Steelseries Apex pro. Which is better?
Omnipoint switches are quite smooth, +- as gaterons, I'd pick apex pro from these 2
Those obnoxious background programs wrapped inside Razer's Synapse crap, are just one of the few things why I stopped using their mediocre, sub par peripherals long ago.
it was almost a year ago now, but perhaps it would be fun if you did a video on the original alps lube that they found.
You keep confusing the names I think.
This is neither the Hunstman Elite, nor the Hunstman V2. Those are different keyboards. This is the Huntsman V2 Analog.
would you recommend this or is a wooting two a better buy
6:17 we need to make a compilation .
Just ordered one, looking forward to the feel of the keys
Edit 4/3/23: love it
Oh, and I got mine brand new for $175 AUD incl shipping, or $118.50 USD
_"I'd say marketing a MX based board in the high end segment is now made virtually impossible."_
lol, there will always be enough snobby aging neckbeards to keep Ducky and MX Leopolds in business.
Plenty of gamers will buy anything "mechanical" that will also induce a seizure with the lighting. Neckbeard not required.