High End RUclipsrs; Ayeee, 120 fps, that’s good! But, we dipped to 59 fps, this is unplayable. RandomGaminginHD: We’re getting a beautiful 40 fps, but we got 120 fps in 2 games, that’s stupid!
Well, he's right, 40 fps is very playable, no problem whatsoever. Ah, if you are a competitive gamer and it affects your gameplay, maybe, but most of the "PC Master Race" heretics just want to show off.
@@GewelReal Yeah...not always true. On my PC, I'm always hovering around 120-144 FPS on my 144 Hz monitor playing AAA games, but whenever I'm not on my desktop, I am using my lower-mid-range gaming laptop (60 HZ screen), and usually play around 30-40 FPS on AAA titles (maxed graphics) and my experience is not any worse at all.
I saw the single stick and was like "Here we go..." I mean its not terrible though for single channel, but could be a hell of a lot better with dual channel.
Single stick does not equal single channel but yes bandwidth is decreased but it wouldn't make much difference in more basic tasks only really noticable in benchmarks
@@pwnt39 it hurts the fps in games though, you get 10-25% increase/especially on the 1% and 0.1% lows(depending on game) dual channel is the way to go also rendering and creativity software benefits quiet a lot from dual channel (feels smoother and better to work in such softwares).
I actually have a core i5 3330 (non K) and it still performs quite well. Currently I do play in 4K with a GTX 1080Ti so my cpu isn't a bottleneck. But when it comes to loading or other cpu intensive tasks it starts to fall behind the current gen chips. Also in the more modern titles it does stutter from time to time. In Shadow of the Tombraider my cpu is almost constantly maxed out. I am looking to upgrade my motherboard and cpu/RAM pretty soon to a Ryzen 7 system.
funny how in 2002 a 6 year old system was junk eg a Pentium 1 @ 150mhz and 128mb ram could not do 2002 tasks or even run xp this 6 year old system in 2018 even still plays games
You're right even if a graphics card update between 2012 and now would be nice if you'd want to run the games better. GTX680 is still decent tho. And for the CPU's you could even go back a little further. I run a CPU thats 8 years old on a platform thats 10 years old and I can still play modern games.
Because CPUs have been advancing really slowly the past few years and it's easier to improve shitty early tech than newer tech and i7s were never a bottleneck to begin with and had a lot of headroom making it still usable 6 years later however i think 8 threads is not gonna be enough pretty soon.
Yeah, because of Moore’s law. Back then, CPU’s used to advance very quickly, and it was an exciting time to be an enthusiast, and Operating systems get released every 1-3 years unlike now, where there’s Windows 95, 98, 2000, then XP, but now, we’re stuck at Windows 10 because Microsoft doesn’t wanna make any more Windows versions after 10
An i7 3770k OC +16GB DDR3 RAM + HD 7970 can run all games to this day, but since got too old u will have to go for medium and low settings at some games... Thats in 1080p of course.
@@randomguydoes2901 i purchased i7 3770 16gb ram ddr3 plus standard heatsink as rock b75m-itx board for 100 of eBay I'm in the uk as well brought a rx 570 8gb gpu as well for 110 I'm building it for my Mrs lad for xmas not tried it yet as waiting for psu to arrive but looking on here and they both perform together as well how do they go together if you have the i7 3770? he's not bothered about his games looking pretty he likes good fps since he played mine lol he plays fortnite and cod mw etc
Ditto, I bought it with 16gb at the time and replaced a broken card with a gtx 970 I got in a flash sale and it still rocks today, maybe I'll get a rtx 3070 (a gen) later if the prices aren't insane, pc parts prices have been stupidly high lately.
The i7-3770k is old, but it is a long way from obsolete. I've used this same CPU for gaming as recently as this year. In fact, it is still the main system for work and gaming for someone I recently lived with. This CPU can overclock, with a click in the bios, to 4.2Ghz with ease. Paired with a modern GPU, it has plenty to offer yet. I would go so far as to say that a used system-on-a-budget using this CPU as a foundation would be an ideal system for someone wanting to have a gaming PC that has very little to spend.
I dreamed about 3770 and 680 when buying my computer in 2012 but could not afford because 680 solo cost similar to whole my build then. Now i changed my old i5 and put i7 3770, 16 GB DDR3 and ideal GTX 680 with 4 GB VRAM and i feel like i realized my dream, it passed 6 years but damn this setup is great :)
@@Kris_Rake same here, went from i5 2400 to i7 3770k, and i bought a rx470 for 100 euro, i can play everything now its amazing how long a pc can last you
Just goes to show how much CPU performance has stagnated over the years. If you bought a good CPU like a Core i7 2600K back in late 2011, then you can still use it quite well after almost seven years. Quadcore and hyperthreading will really give a CPU a much longer lifespan. The old motherboard might not support the newest features like USB Type C, M.2 SSDs and so on, but those can be added via PCIe expansion cards quite easily. And the Z77 board has enough room for those expansion cards.
Well who cares about CPU performance when every damn program seems to be GPU bound nowadays. No one's gonna pay for tech improvements that will inevitably go unutilized...
I'm glad you still do your thing the best you can, that's not to say you're not gonna keep improving cuz practice makes perfect, much love from Romania
It would probably work even better with dual channel ram. The 3770k doesn't OC as well as the Sandy Bridge chips but you should still be able to get 4.4 or 4.5GHz without too much effort.
@@classic_jam Depends on what you want to do with it. If you're gaming at a refresh rate higher than 60hz at 1080p, then probably 2 years at best. Might last a few more though if you're gaming at a higher resolution. The old Xeon x5690 is just now getting to stretch its legs thanks to how well threaded some modern games are.
so I recently broke my z77 ivy bridge motherboard (using a 3770k that survived) and I was pretty annoyed with myself.....but then someone locally was selling an even better motherboard with a k model i5 in it for only $40. So breaking my board worked in my favor, it made me look for a new board and I made $$$$ in the process cause I sold the cpu
Nice xd What's your new Motherboard ? I'm the 2600k on a Asrock z77 Fatility Professional and overclocked that Beast to 4,8GHz :) (CineBench Multi: 853)
@@LG1771-e4n I went from a Asrock Z77 pro 4 that broke to a Asrock Z77 Extreme 4. That came with a i5 3570k for total of $40. I'll also come clean....I picked up a 2nd board with a similar deal just for future use in case I broke one. Also $40, but this time a MSI Z77A-G45 that came with a i5-3450. (from the same guy I also picked up 16gb ram for $40 and a gtx 770 2gb for $40, figured I could make use of them as I build and sell pc's on occasion) That being said, I'm still pissed I broke my board as I could have sold it and found these deals anyway, plus I hate breaking parts. Still not sure exactly what killed it. There are like 4 simultaneous reasons that could have killed it and I'll never know which one did it
@@bluescluessuperagent Strange... But I like your deals ! I last time bought a broken Gigabyte z68 UD3H (for 15€ + 2500k. ;) I think the BIOS was somehow corrupted because it wouldn't boot with my i5 3570. Installed my i3 2120 and I was able to see the boot screen but it freezed always. →Installed 2 GB 1333MHz RAM and I got into BIOS and "reflashed it" ;) Installed the 2500k + ThermalTake Macho and overclocked that to 5,2GHz ;D (I have a Video on my Channel)
Had that same Z77 Pro 4 board too, mine died in its 3rd year, making me move to Skylake. Now I got a GB Z77M-D3H to finally do a Hackintosh install, possible because the 7 series is the first to have UEFI booting.
Have an i7-3770k OC to 4.5 ghz, 24gb of DDr3 1600 ram, a RX 580, 8TB of storage, and a 850w PSU. I love this System. Can game with the best of 'em and I couldnt ve happier. I love that you did a review on this HW. Love your channel and seeing this today made me happy.
By the title I thought you would hook this thing up with the best graphics card from 2012, was really interested to see if the top hardware from that time would hold up 6 years later.
@@TheRealBleach Here's a story, after building a system with a 7600k, I found one being thrown out, It had a 4790k with 16gb of ram and a Gigabyte Gaming 7 I believe
@@lucasrem how about instead of lying about your pc build online, you go and ask your parents for English lessons, do something useful instead of being an ass.
Anyways I wanted to say you a big thanks mate ! Coz I bought a core i5 3470 by letting go off g3258 after watching some videos of yours hope I'll see more videos like this from your channel in future 😍
I upgraded from gtx 970 strip to a gtx 1080 g1 gaming on ebay in mint condition from a pre built someone had hardly used for £280 ,big performance uptic , I'm running i7 4790k 4.7ghz
I bought my first computer back in 2011 and still using it today without upgrading anything. The only thing I did was add a case fan. Still works like a charm!
Single stick of ram and propably with low speeds? :/ I ve played all these games at highest settings on 1070 ( 4.3ghz CPU ) and my average FPS were higher ( 10-20%) dual channel 2400mhz
@@jocerv43 DDR3 RAM can get up to 3000 MHz. Besides, on the video he did not use Dual Channel and if you really believe that say a 4th gen i7 is "much worse and so old" compared to a 7th i7 you are as dumb as a donkey. DDR3 or DDR4 RAM is not like one game will be 20 fps and the other 80 fps...
Really awesome content! You should deserve 1M subs you are much more creative than unbox therapy and more popular youtubers that don't do anything. As always I subscribed
My daughter is using an old i7 3820k on an Asus P9X79 LE motherboard with 16gb RAM, an EVGA GTX 680 SC and it does pretty well in World of Warcraft which is the main game she plays. Its running at stock speeds since I have no idea how to overclock an Intel CPU.
I know WoW isn't going to strain most PCs, I was simply saying its her main game. The reason the PC works well for her is she isn't playing the latest AAA titles at 4k, ultra high...she mostly just plays WoW and Overwatch on her old 1440x900 monitor. I suspect her PC would run many newer titles at a playable framerate. I was using the GTX 680 until last year when I rebuilt my PC and upgraded to a GTX 1070 so I know the GPU is still capable of decent FPS in gaming.
That's the same thing I have. Only my i7 is 2700k. I found this thing on a street corner with just the accessories missing. After rebuilding it, it's still a beast and I feel like I still haven't scratched it's limit.
Ok, old hardware doesn't necessarily mean bad hardware. My second hand computer is even older and it still does games well enough. As for cinebench it's significantly more powerful than both the i7 and Ryzen. We need to be less wasteful, the tons of resources used to create each CPU, motherboard etc etc. We consume far more than the earth can provide. A lot has to do with us as consumers, some fault can also apply to developers (inefficiency, more demanding resources etc). We really need to change, this planet for sure, would not hold out much further. I for sure, am not any better, but I do like to buy second hand, or attempt to reuse stuff wherever I can.
The entire global economy requires that you purchase new stuff. What happens to the Costa Rican that assembled this i7 when the plant slows or ceases production because of low demand? What happens to the lady that sells lunch to the workers, or the bus driver that takes them there? We are trapped in a system that needs ever increasing production and consumption to keep all the boats afloat. I, personally keep my stuff until it breaks, or becomes absolutely obsolescent, though. I'm a bad citizen, I guess.
@@blisterbrain Well for starters, nothing, because the vast majority of hardware is produced in China and Taiwan.:P But seriously though, we're not really stuck, its just a major rethinking and transition of how we do things. The current dependency on people constantly buying new stuff already has a huge flaw when it comes to luxury items like computers, once something becomes 'good enough' demand will dwindle on it's own as people don't have much need to upgrade. We're already seeing that with PC's, gaming is pretty much the only thing people have to upgrade for on the consumer end, everything else even peoples' phones can easily handle. That's why PC sales (as in OEM's) dropped before. We're going to have to figure this stuff sooner or later, since with the push for automating jobs there's going to be a lot of people without jobs, and just as many jobs that don't exist for people anymore. As for reducing wasteful consumption while saving jobs, you could always have factories that specialize in re-purposing old hardware, which is actually already a thing for smaller businesses and charities. The problem is for the companies there isn't as much money in old hardware as there is new, especially where re-buying and re-selling is concerned.
@@ZombieBarioth I used Costa Rica as an example because the chip in the video was labeled as such. I was a bit surprised, as I would think bananas before i7s, but that just goes to show the reach of the globalized economy. A major rethinking will indeed be necessary. It's going to make the transition of the industrial revolution seem simple in comparison. Heck, half the world is still struggling to reach the 20th century.
@@MegaHellstrike It's is annoying sometimes. I got into a debate with some guy about performances and he's comparing to to other tech reviewers who use defined settings and I have to somehow compare to randoms mixed settings which could be anything Fortnite for instance runs much better with shadows turned off, so just turning off that one 1 settings and keeping the other stuff on medium to make a mixed settings while boost performance compared to normal medium.
@@bluescluessuperagent The issue is even greater than that. RGHD often uses Overwatch in his videos with the presets listed, but Overwatch uses different presets with different hardware. 'Epic' is different on a GTX 960 vs a GTX 2080 TI. So each hardware change has to be manually leveled in the settings for Overwatch. When it comes to benchmark tests, you can't compare outlets. You can only compare intra-outlet, and even then you need a defined methodology. RGHD isn't a serious tech reviewer doing huge exposes on hardwear like GamersNexus does, but it is a bit annoying when he trots out 'mixed' settings. All he has to do is screenshot his final settings and post that with the video.
Great video. I am still running a Sandy Bridge E3-1245 Xeon based T1600 Precision workstation with an RX 570 8 GB as my main machine. Runs great for 1080p gaming.
Right now I'm using a i5 2500k with my GTX 980 ti, it's bottlenecking a lot so I'll definitely try to find one of these cpus. Have been looking for a good alternative with the same socket so thank you, keep up the great work!
i have one problem with this video. with 8 gb of ram and maybe pretty slow one games like witcher 3 will not perform perfekt 0.1 % lows would be better with 16 gb ddr3 and its so cheap that 8 gb isnt the way to go for ultra settings. i think its just a bit missleading. as always your videos are great but our 8 gb of ram is just a bit too little for videos like this
According to a comparison video both 8gb and 16gb of ram should give you around twice the fps over 4gb of ram. the only difference being at least two fps with 16gb over 8gb. I think it takes the cake.
in the gameplay section of ac odessey gpu uses hovers around 80% only and lowest drop to 74%. the game isnot using full gpu strength. my gtx 1060 avarage around 42 ish fps. u really should look into the system. Try using dual channel memory it might fix it
I've been looking for a decent Z77 board lately and yeah... people want stupid money for the Sabertooth boards. Then again, people are trying to ask $85 for barebones Z77 board.
I’m on a X79 Sabertooth, on effectively a 6 core 3770K (i7 4930K) very long lasting boards these (i have a x99 one needing two pins unbending; got that thing for just postage at £17 something) Great content/benchmarks etc as always dude
Great video, I hadn’t seen this one just yet but have watched your channel. I actually found this exact board, cpu and also 16 GB of ram for $3,99 at a thrift shop. I bought a $6 cooler and it actually works, I’ll figure out what I am going to do with it for my channel. I was just happy to find it and it works for so cheap.
Pascal has issues with Ryzen in some games. Turing is better (not perfect). If your 1070 was a Vega 56, you'd have seen no stutter (likely) on the Ryzen system.
@Cuzeg Spiked Here imgur.com/gallery/oTNrz Boredgunner/Jester is a friend of mine. I benched with my Fury and 1500X alongside him and the reason we cant include them is because it would break benchmarking code. My 1500X and Fury combo managed to overcome an OCed 1700X and 1080 Ti several times...and by a lot. For an example I did the exact same Unreal 2004 run as he did and got 98 fps average. He got 72...
I bought i7 3770K in May of 2012 and Im still using it. Now its running on 4.5GHz paired with GTX 1080Ti and 16GB DDR3 1866MHz with 1TB SSD and still gets the job done very well.
@@hifkman de-lidding and liquid metal makes a HUGE difference. I delidded mine, and it never goes above 55-57C on air. That's at 4.2ghz. But it used to do 70C before de-lidding it
I love that processor, I deal with used PCs and parts on the side and building a 500€ gaming PC with this gem was among my favorite projects so far. Got mine in a mystery purchase of a "broken" editing PC for 120€ (which also had a 850w power supply).
Pro tip, look for older Xeons. If you're okay with a locked processor that is. I just snatched up an e3-1270 for $55. Thing performs exactly the same as an i7-2600 and should keep up a 1070 well fed.
@Jay Arre There is a Hardware Canucks video that compares the 8700k and 2600k at stock and overclocked. At stock it performs basically the same as the 8700k with a GTX 1070. Are you speaking from experience? Have a contrary performance chart? Or are you just saying no?
thanks for this. it confirms my own policy of always trying to buy an i7 if i can afford it...even if I have to go back a couple of generations. they are just the most future proof of any CPU. Here you've gone back 6 years and its absolutely fine for mid-level gaming still. Very impressive!
Tell me about it. $148 seems to be the going rate for a i7-3770K today. Sometimes I wonder about these deals RUclipsrs claim to get. Is that the price minus the ad revenue they get for their clickbait videos?
You pretty much showed how this "bottleneck" mania regarding cpus is just pure BS. Who owns an high end 3rd and up I7 cpu should in no way listen to those that says that these cpu will bottleneck games heavily. I also blame Bf1 for this, because that game after a certain update started to stutter heavily and everyone jumped on the cpu bottleneck bandwagon. Bottleneck exist but don't be fooled by ignorants.
@@Neiva71 this make me laugh since I've a 1080 and a 4790 (which is in the same performance ballpark as the 3770k) and it still doesn't bottleneck neither especially at 2K
Exactly, I'm playing 144hz 1080phigh to ultra settings with an i7 5820k @4,2ghz and a gtx 1070ti @2,1ghz, I even get more Than 18000 points in firestrike.
lol I'd knew someone would talk about him. He actually lives 30 mins away from me. Honestly don't know how he finds such crazy deals. He must be up all night 😂 But seriously most people price hardware way too high in AUS, then one person puts out a crazy price then he obviously gets it
@@cameronvanhooft yeah, those deal videos are always really hit and miss. I'm in the US and I've found a ton of great parts.....but I have to wade through all the super over priced stuff or crap in my local market. And I probably spend way too much time anyway on those sites. It's like 2nd nature for me to check them. I can see Australia being worse
My partner and I both have i7 3770s (the locked version), mine since brand new back in 2012 and neither of us has ever come close to thinking that we might need an upgrade for any game that we have thrown at them. I think perhaps it was tech yes city (might have been hardware unboxed) that recently voted the i7 3770 one of the best budget gaming CPUs out there considering the price you can get them for now and the performance that they give. I'm looking forward to seeing just how many years I can run new titles at max with my 3770.
No he said 4.2ghz modest overclock when he mentioned overclocking the cpu and he also said which is frequency most should be able to achieve. Get your ears cleaned TheMangerChild
Great video mate! (I'm def American!) I've always loved them and I watched before I had the PC I'm proud to call gaming (Ryzen 3 1200 Rx 570) It's been a long time coming. Anyway. You've always inspired me and continue to! Im impressed at how good that i7 is doing. Most likely beat my Ryzen 3 1200 @ a modest 3.5.
Omg you AMD fanboy! You cannot compare the 3770K with the Ryzen 5 1600 using only 8GB with a single module in singel channel?! My i7 2600K outperforms that poor i7 3770K you're abusing, and that should not be the case! First off, make sure you run 2x8GB in dual channel at around 1866Mhz to 2133Mhz at least, then you can compare it to a Ryzen 5 1600 build and see the i7 3770K outperforming the Ryzen cpu in most games. GLHF!
smh seriously with the stupid fanboy accusations. Random does stuff like this all the time. He conversely never overclocks his ram when testing Ryzen APUs. It's not him fanboying or trying to hurt any particular brand.....it's just mistakes or his mantra of going budget (even when it hurts such as not doing dual channel or going 16gb ddr3 ram which anyone would have with the cpu considering ddr3 ram prices or not using faster ram or oc'd ram etc)
Wasn't the performance difference between a single stick of 1333 Vs 2133 in dual channel basically the same within margin of error back on DDR3? Can you point me in a direction of any gaming benchmarks that reflect the performance benefits of high speed ram on DDR3?
@@bennyuoppd33 Check out the difference on Ryzen (since he's saying BS about the i7 not being slower than the R5 1600) between DDR4 ... let's say 2400 and DDR4 3200. It's a big difference, very noticeable, especially on the Zen platform cpu. I got a R5 2600x and going from 2133 DDR4 (no XMP profile) to 3000 (stock XMP profile) made a difference of about 10 fps.... and I don't think he's really running Rainbow Six Siege at Ultra... with my R5 2600x and my GTX 1080 on all settings maxed at 1080P I saw between 140 and 190 with max 70% gpu usage...and considering the 1070 is a slower card by about 30% (maybe even more), his numbers don't really match with Ultra...
@@bennyuoppd33 Nah, you can check it out yourself, digitalfoundry probably have a few comparions on memoryspeeds on older platforms. But as things progress, memory speed of older platforms in newer games makes a difference. In the early days games wasn't that demanding of memory bandwith since they usually didnt max out the cpus anyways. It's true that faster ram dont make a lot of different on non overclocked older cpus, but nowadays faster rams scales well with clockspeed of the cpu. Mainly becase new platforms already have an adventage of memory bandwith, the game devolopers set that as the new standard for the games. To be able to match the new standard in bandwith you need faster ram. 1333Mhz on sandy bridge or newer will severly bottleneck the cpu. 1600Mhz as well at some extent. Sweetspot for DDR3 would be 2133Mhz to 2400Mhz for the cpus that can handle it and if the cpus are overclocked. My motherboard died recently so I got a new one (p67) and right now I only got the overclock stable at 1866Mhz. With the i7 2600K at 4.6Ghz I get 810 points in cinebench R15. If you get a lower score than that on the i7 3770K overclocked to 4.5Ghz theres something crippeling the system since Ivy bridge had slightly better IPC than Sandy Bridge. And "Random guy" got around 750 points or even less? Well you can argue that it only will give you a few percents performanceboost with faster ram in dual channel, but for a fact the biggest difference (also the most important I think) will be improved 1%, and 0.1% lows. Ram speeds on older platforms are already their biggest bottleneck so the goal is to reduce those as much as possible to imrpove the overall stability in framerate. I don't have any recent data but going from 1333Mhz or even 1600Mhz to 2133Mhz or 2400Mhz memory will give you a big boost in performance, especially in scenarios where memory bandwith will be the main bottleneck. Check out performance in games like Crysis 3 or Far Cry 4. I think they will be good for these types of benchmarks.
Still rocking i5 2500 from 2011. So far zero problems with anything. I had it teamed up with the GTX 560ti up until early this year, and to everyone's surprise I could still 1080p / ~60fps many modern games with it. Now with GTX 1060 6gb, it runs ANYTHING. The i7 3770K might however be my next upgrade. LGA1155 socket, lower power consumption, and addition of HT + better OC = sweet!
Nice! Just putting finishing touches to my i7-3770 (non-K) - still gonna be quite an upgrade from my X4 965... I was going to carry the 750Ti over from the 965, but went for a 1060 - now thinking maybe I should have gone higher on that. Also appears that the non-K can sneak a couple of extra steps using the max turbo multiplier.
The i7-2600k/3770k's are beasts! Got my 3770k @ 4.7 with a GTX 1080, and 16GB ram at 2400mhz, bought the board, CPU and ram for $160 CDN. Curious to see how these comparisons would stack up if both systems were running 16GB at max supported speed ~3000 for Ryzen and ~2400 on Intel side. I saw a solid performance jump in smoothness when I got faster ram, and I've heard this is even more of a jump on Ryzen systems. Also curious to know the speeds of the ram on these systems as they were tested here, even just a mention in the video description would be nice for reference. Definitely love to see you giving love to some more high-end old school hardware, as this seems like the true value for money if you want high end gaming but don't need the new features of modern chipsets. Assuming you can actually find the boards/i7's at decent prices
I have an I7-3770k overcooked at 4.4Ghz. 16gb ram and water cooling on an older ROG mobo. It's held up and will remain in my system for the future few years I have it.
great video as always mate, i have a i7 4790 NONE k and its paired with a GTX 970 and 16gb of ram, i ordered a Gigabyte G1 SNIPER motherboard but the socket was faulty, getting to the point i have seen videos of people messing with the bios in certain motherboards and you are able to overclock a none k CPU, i wanted to try thhis with my setup but i had to revert to my previous motherboard i think that would make a great video :)
The i7 3700k is still a freaking beast, especially when overclocked to 4.5 ghz with hyper threading enabled. I'm sure it competes, if not beats out the ryzen equivalents in gaming. I'm rocking the 3770k in my older build with a gtx 980 ti.
my brother runs a Z77 Sabretooth with a 3770k still works just fine for gaming and computing. we never installed the motherboard fans and the board is still fine.
2 years newer than my motherboard and processor. Have upgraded my RAM to 24Gb which is the most my x58 can handle. Got a 980ti. Runs a treat with a £60 solid state hard drive. I will upgrade to a 7nm gamming system end of next year.
the fps drops in fortnite when loading on that island with everyone is completely normal it really depends on at what time your playing the game. sometimes its smooth and sometimes it feels laggy. I had a i3 6100 with a 1060 3gb and had the same problem sometimes, right now I have a ryzen 5 2600 with a gtx 1070 and same problem.
I had an i7 3770 and H77 motherboard until very recently, combined they cost me a crazy £20 so I was quite happy. I recently upgraded to an i7 3930k and Asus X79 motherboard for around £140 so again I was quite happy with the price. I’ve paired this with a StriX GTX 970 and 16GBs of ram to form an awesome gaming rig that cost less than a 1080 TI would cost new (if my maths is right that is)
You got that cpu on a real bargain. I am still at a I5 3570K @4.4. it still suits me fine. I am building my systems for over twenty years now. Usually building a new one every few years. Never before has a system served me for this long. I only upgraded the graphics card two years ago to a RX 480.
This is the same CPU ive been using for 5-6 years and its been running @ 4.5ghz for about 2 and a half years now. before that it was on water cooling and ran @ 4.8ghz. this was 24/7 as it was video encoding a lot and doing 3d modeling / animation. It still getting used 24/7 @ 4.5ghz on air. Its been a fantastic CPU. And you got a fantastic deal there. when i mean 24/7 i mean when i was not using the PC it is encoding nearly all the time.
I had an 2600K with 16GB RAM that I bought on launch in 2011 and started with a 560 Ti, upgraded to a 680 4GB and later to a 1070 earlier. Upgraded the whole rig to a 8700K, 32GB RAM earlier this year. The 2600K is still a very capable CPU, although with the new 8700K the framerate is much smoother and I barely notice any stutter in games and such.
2nd and 3rd gen processors from Intel are quite underrated now, but they still keep up really nicely! I have an i5-3470 with a GTX 750 Ti, this combo performs well I wish I had a RX 570/580 or a GTX 1060 so I could play games in 1440p and the CPU would reach it's max potential
I'm running that motherboard still today, and it has a design fail that's so hateful... The battery. It's located under the armor, so if it run out you have to tear down the entire PC to change it (the screws that hold the shield in place are under the board). Apart from that, a 3770K can easily reach 4.5/4.8 GHz and have almost the same performance as a 4770/90K.
My old i7 870 still does ok. Struggles in some games to maintain 50 even at low settings but that's only in really demanding games or poorly optimised ones. I think most CPUs since 2010 will still have life in them.
High End RUclipsrs; Ayeee, 120 fps, that’s good! But, we dipped to 59 fps, this is unplayable.
RandomGaminginHD: We’re getting a beautiful 40 fps, but we got 120 fps in 2 games, that’s stupid!
*cough* Linus Tech Tips *cough*
@@SkyenNovaA Linus doesn't do that
Well, he's right, 40 fps is very playable, no problem whatsoever. Ah, if you are a competitive gamer and it affects your gameplay, maybe, but most of the "PC Master Race" heretics just want to show off.
Even for a casual player, if you can reach 60 FPS then you will never go back to lower framerates
@@GewelReal Yeah...not always true. On my PC, I'm always hovering around 120-144 FPS on my 144 Hz monitor playing AAA games, but whenever I'm not on my desktop, I am using my lower-mid-range gaming laptop (60 HZ screen), and usually play around 30-40 FPS on AAA titles (maxed graphics) and my experience is not any worse at all.
You should have 16GB of DDR3 Ram in dual channel mode, you will have better framerates , less stuttering, and better loading times!
2nd this, memory was actually cheaper when the I7 came out, I bought 16gb at the same time for about £75, still using it now.
I saw the single stick and was like "Here we go..." I mean its not terrible though for single channel, but could be a hell of a lot better with dual channel.
Single stick does not equal single channel but yes bandwidth is decreased but it wouldn't make much difference in more basic tasks only really noticable in benchmarks
@@pwnt39 it hurts the fps in games though, you get 10-25% increase/especially on the 1% and 0.1% lows(depending on game) dual channel is the way to go also rendering and creativity software benefits quiet a lot from dual channel (feels smoother and better to work in such softwares).
I actually have a core i5 3330 (non K) and it still performs quite well. Currently I do play in 4K with a GTX 1080Ti so my cpu isn't a bottleneck. But when it comes to loading or other cpu intensive tasks it starts to fall behind the current gen chips. Also in the more modern titles it does stutter from time to time. In Shadow of the Tombraider my cpu is almost constantly maxed out. I am looking to upgrade my motherboard and cpu/RAM pretty soon to a Ryzen 7 system.
funny how in 2002 a 6 year old system was junk eg a Pentium 1 @ 150mhz and 128mb ram could not do 2002 tasks or even run xp this 6 year old system in 2018 even still plays games
it's diminishing gains
You're right even if a graphics card update between 2012 and now would be nice if you'd want to run the games better. GTX680 is still decent tho. And for the CPU's you could even go back a little further. I run a CPU thats 8 years old on a platform thats 10 years old and I can still play modern games.
Because CPUs have been advancing really slowly the past few years and it's easier to improve shitty early tech than newer tech and i7s were never a bottleneck to begin with and had a lot of headroom making it still usable 6 years later however i think 8 threads is not gonna be enough pretty soon.
CPUs have been sloooow to improve, especially in gaming *glances over at PS4 and on x both using a custom FX8320 APU solution*
Yeah, because of Moore’s law. Back then, CPU’s used to advance very quickly, and it was an exciting time to be an enthusiast, and Operating systems get released every 1-3 years unlike now, where there’s Windows 95, 98, 2000, then XP, but now, we’re stuck at Windows 10 because Microsoft doesn’t wanna make any more Windows versions after 10
Should have paired them with a gtx 690 for the full 2012 high end experience
I’d go with a 7970 as it will outperform a 680 these days.
An i7 3770k OC +16GB DDR3 RAM + HD 7970 can run all games to this day, but since got too old u will have to go for medium and low settings at some games... Thats in 1080p of course.
If it was 2013 you could just squeeze a 290x in and blow them all to pieces 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@@randomguydoes2901 hi mate what is your setup?
@@randomguydoes2901
i purchased i7 3770 16gb ram ddr3 plus standard heatsink as rock b75m-itx board for 100 of eBay I'm in the uk as well brought a rx 570 8gb gpu as well for 110 I'm building it for my Mrs lad for xmas not tried it yet as waiting for psu to arrive but looking on here and they both perform together as well how do they go together if you have the i7 3770? he's not bothered about his games looking pretty he likes good fps since he played mine lol he plays fortnite and cod mw etc
I mean ms paint is going just fine so I'm good.
MS Paint Daily can’t argue with that.
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I’m still running the 3770k since launch and it’s perfect
Ditto, I bought it with 16gb at the time and replaced a broken card with a gtx 970 I got in a flash sale and it still rocks today, maybe I'll get a rtx 3070 (a gen) later if the prices aren't insane, pc parts prices have been stupidly high lately.
What board you running it on, I have my 2500k on a z77 Extreme4, 16gb of ddr3-1866, and a gtx 970(will be getting a 3770k)
robert dent
some cry 8800 GTX on P4, why you need to say that?
EvilTurkeySlices same board haha
Only 8gb gtx 980
I have the i5 2500 paired with GTX 1060 on my rig and I'm surprised to say that it's still running like a beast!
This is the best budget tech channel on RUclips.
Droogie
Ultra settings on cheap gear, why you need this content?
My 3930k is still kicking ass considering it's seven years old. Staying power for miles and miles.
i agree as that's the cpu im running on a Sabertooth x79
i bought 3930k with asus rive and 16gb corsair vengeance.. etc for 450
That's what I'm gonna upgrade to if I ever feel the need
spork8655 A
3930k gang
The i7-3770k is old, but it is a long way from obsolete. I've used this same CPU for gaming as recently as this year. In fact, it is still the main system for work and gaming for someone I recently lived with. This CPU can overclock, with a click in the bios, to 4.2Ghz with ease. Paired with a modern GPU, it has plenty to offer yet. I would go so far as to say that a used system-on-a-budget using this CPU as a foundation would be an ideal system for someone wanting to have a gaming PC that has very little to spend.
anything lower than gtx 1070 vega 56 level should be fine for it
If you feel up to it delidding would be great for temps. The TIM was bad when it can out and it doesn't get better with time
currently, im running mine at 5ghz
4690s cost half of it and performs the same
@@StRanGerManY nope
You should have put a GTX 680 in it.
I dreamed about 3770 and 680 when buying my computer in 2012 but could not afford because 680 solo cost similar to whole my build then. Now i changed my old i5 and put i7 3770, 16 GB DDR3 and ideal GTX 680 with 4 GB VRAM and i feel like i realized my dream, it passed 6 years but damn this setup is great :)
[Insert GTX 680 furnace joke here.]
@@Kris_Rake same here, went from i5 2400 to i7 3770k, and i bought a rx470 for 100 euro, i can play everything now its amazing how long a pc can last you
if he wanted THE BEST Hardware of that Year, it Should be Titan Z with i7 3970x!
Edit: replace Titan Z with 3 680s in SLI!
@@doleod6340 but the GTX 480 is a real furnace for all time!
Just goes to show how much CPU performance has stagnated over the years. If you bought a good CPU like a Core i7 2600K back in late 2011, then you can still use it quite well after almost seven years. Quadcore and hyperthreading will really give a CPU a much longer lifespan. The old motherboard might not support the newest features like USB Type C, M.2 SSDs and so on, but those can be added via PCIe expansion cards quite easily. And the Z77 board has enough room for those expansion cards.
Thats all well and good IF you have a good board.... like a Z77. A budget board? nope. Oh, the lack of SATA III on my i5-2500 sucked.
I have bought i5 4690s for 65$ from ali, and it performers the same as i7 3770.
Well who cares about CPU performance when every damn program seems to be GPU bound nowadays. No one's gonna pay for tech improvements that will inevitably go unutilized...
I'm glad you still do your thing the best you can, that's not to say you're not gonna keep improving cuz practice makes perfect, much love from Romania
It would probably work even better with dual channel ram. The 3770k doesn't OC as well as the Sandy Bridge chips but you should still be able to get 4.4 or 4.5GHz without too much effort.
delid 3770k is over powered
I have an i7 3770. Still a nice cpu for the next 4 years I think :))
Same here, I have had mine for a few months and it is a beast for the price I got it at
Probably only good for another 2-3 years. Just look at 1st Gen..
@@classic_jam Depends on what you want to do with it. If you're gaming at a refresh rate higher than 60hz at 1080p, then probably 2 years at best. Might last a few more though if you're gaming at a higher resolution. The old Xeon x5690 is just now getting to stretch its legs thanks to how well threaded some modern games are.
i still have a 2600k not going to upgrade anytime soon
2600k running at 4,5ghz FTW
so I recently broke my z77 ivy bridge motherboard (using a 3770k that survived) and I was pretty annoyed with myself.....but then someone locally was selling an even better motherboard with a k model i5 in it for only $40. So breaking my board worked in my favor, it made me look for a new board and I made $$$$ in the process cause I sold the cpu
Nice xd What's your new Motherboard ? I'm the 2600k on a Asrock z77 Fatility Professional and overclocked that Beast to 4,8GHz :) (CineBench Multi: 853)
@@LG1771-e4n I went from a Asrock Z77 pro 4 that broke to a Asrock Z77 Extreme 4. That came with a i5 3570k for total of $40.
I'll also come clean....I picked up a 2nd board with a similar deal just for future use in case I broke one.
Also $40, but this time a MSI Z77A-G45 that came with a i5-3450. (from the same guy I also picked up 16gb ram for $40 and a gtx 770 2gb for $40, figured I could make use of them as I build and sell pc's on occasion)
That being said, I'm still pissed I broke my board as I could have sold it and found these deals anyway, plus I hate breaking parts. Still not sure exactly what killed it. There are like 4 simultaneous reasons that could have killed it and I'll never know which one did it
@@bluescluessuperagent Strange... But I like your deals ! I last time bought a broken Gigabyte z68 UD3H (for 15€ + 2500k. ;) I think the BIOS was somehow corrupted because it wouldn't boot with my i5 3570. Installed my i3 2120 and I was able to see the boot screen but it freezed always. →Installed 2 GB 1333MHz RAM and I got into BIOS and "reflashed it" ;) Installed the 2500k + ThermalTake Macho and overclocked that to 5,2GHz ;D (I have a Video on my Channel)
@@bluescluessuperagent good deal but have less performing cpu so not really a deal when it comes to cpu performance
Had that same Z77 Pro 4 board too, mine died in its 3rd year, making me move to Skylake. Now I got a GB Z77M-D3H to finally do a Hackintosh install, possible because the 7 series is the first to have UEFI booting.
Have an i7-3770k OC to 4.5 ghz, 24gb of DDr3 1600 ram, a RX 580, 8TB of storage, and a 850w PSU. I love this System. Can game with the best of 'em and I couldnt ve happier. I love that you did a review on this HW. Love your channel and seeing this today made me happy.
By the title I thought you would hook this thing up with the best graphics card from 2012, was really interested to see if the top hardware from that time would hold up 6 years later.
The i7 3770k is legendary
Ivy Bridge is still great, even the little i3 3220 (basically a G4560) runs things okay.
Where would the 4790k fit now
Andrew Nanhoo The 4790K is amazing too
@@TheRealBleach Here's a story, after building a system with a 7600k, I found one being thrown out, It had a 4790k with 16gb of ram and a Gigabyte Gaming 7 I believe
i5 2500K / Q6600 anyone?
still better than my current pc
+1
urban
this is the cheap crap channel, running FarCry 5!
Current system, RTX on some 9900k....Dino systems?
@@lucasrem how about instead of lying about your pc build online, you go and ask your parents for English lessons, do something useful instead of being an ass.
Anyways I wanted to say you a big thanks mate ! Coz I bought a core i5 3470 by letting go off g3258 after watching some videos of yours hope I'll see more videos like this from your channel in future 😍
I currently have an i7 3770 and a gtx 970, i can run basically anything on 1080p
my next upgrade will be RAM (16gb) and then the gtx 1070
I upgraded from gtx 970 strip to a gtx 1080 g1 gaming on ebay in mint condition from a pre built someone had hardly used for £280 ,big performance uptic , I'm running i7 4790k 4.7ghz
Snap, I already had 16gb though. I'm not in a hurry to upgrade, I'll be waiting for RTX 3070s perhaps!
yea same for me toO! already got 16gb ram in dual channel! gonna upgrade 1070 if i can find cheap hah
I bought my first computer back in 2011 and still using it today without upgrading anything.
The only thing I did was add a case fan. Still works like a charm!
Single stick of ram and propably with low speeds? :/ I ve played all these games at highest settings on 1070 ( 4.3ghz CPU ) and my average FPS were higher ( 10-20%) dual channel 2400mhz
What CPU and RAM though? This is pretty old hardware, and I'm pretty sure it's DDR3.
@@jocerv43 DDR3 RAM can get up to 3000 MHz. Besides, on the video he did not use Dual Channel and if you really believe that say a 4th gen i7 is "much worse and so old" compared to a 7th i7 you are as dumb as a donkey. DDR3 or DDR4 RAM is not like one game will be 20 fps and the other 80 fps...
Really awesome content! You should deserve 1M subs you are much more creative than unbox therapy and more popular youtubers that don't do anything. As always I subscribed
My daughter is using an old i7 3820k on an Asus P9X79 LE motherboard with 16gb RAM, an EVGA GTX 680 SC and it does pretty well in World of Warcraft which is the main game she plays. Its running at stock speeds since I have no idea how to overclock an Intel CPU.
even a potato can run world of warcraft^^
I know WoW isn't going to strain most PCs, I was simply saying its her main game. The reason the PC works well for her is she isn't playing the latest AAA titles at 4k, ultra high...she mostly just plays WoW and Overwatch on her old 1440x900 monitor. I suspect her PC would run many newer titles at a playable framerate. I was using the GTX 680 until last year when I rebuilt my PC and upgraded to a GTX 1070 so I know the GPU is still capable of decent FPS in gaming.
@@Jennifur68 yes your daughters pc is still able to run the latest games. just not at 4 k. so its fine:)
That's the same thing I have. Only my i7 is 2700k. I found this thing on a street corner with just the accessories missing. After rebuilding it, it's still a beast and I feel like I still haven't scratched it's limit.
This system need 16Gb (2x8Gb) of 2133mhz DDR3!!! :)
2400 on CL10 is better ;)
I like my 4th Gen i5 with 8gb of 2133, sadly it's in a slim build so it has a 1030
@@keithjones589 There are 1050/ti & RX 5xx/4xx cards that are slim some of those are passive cooling.
I totally agree
@@TsunaXZ are they single slot cards tho, also I only paid like $46 for the 1030
I'm rockin the same exact system (3770K+Sabertooth+1070) and still very much happy with its current performance!
Ok, old hardware doesn't necessarily mean bad hardware. My second hand computer is even older and it still does games well enough. As for cinebench it's significantly more powerful than both the i7 and Ryzen. We need to be less wasteful, the tons of resources used to create each CPU, motherboard etc etc. We consume far more than the earth can provide. A lot has to do with us as consumers, some fault can also apply to developers (inefficiency, more demanding resources etc). We really need to change, this planet for sure, would not hold out much further. I for sure, am not any better, but I do like to buy second hand, or attempt to reuse stuff wherever I can.
Well said
agreed, when you realize that old h/w does just fine for modern games, us gamers are actually quite wasteful....recycled parts are good
The entire global economy requires that you purchase new stuff. What happens to the Costa Rican that assembled this i7 when the plant slows or ceases production because of low demand? What happens to the lady that sells lunch to the workers, or the bus driver that takes them there? We are trapped in a system that needs ever increasing production and consumption to keep all the boats afloat. I, personally keep my stuff until it breaks, or becomes absolutely obsolescent, though. I'm a bad citizen, I guess.
@@blisterbrain
Well for starters, nothing, because the vast majority of hardware is produced in China and Taiwan.:P
But seriously though, we're not really stuck, its just a major rethinking and transition of how we do things. The current dependency on people constantly buying new stuff already has a huge flaw when it comes to luxury items like computers, once something becomes 'good enough' demand will dwindle on it's own as people don't have much need to upgrade. We're already seeing that with PC's, gaming is pretty much the only thing people have to upgrade for on the consumer end, everything else even peoples' phones can easily handle. That's why PC sales (as in OEM's) dropped before.
We're going to have to figure this stuff sooner or later, since with the push for automating jobs there's going to be a lot of people without jobs, and just as many jobs that don't exist for people anymore.
As for reducing wasteful consumption while saving jobs, you could always have factories that specialize in re-purposing old hardware, which is actually already a thing for smaller businesses and charities. The problem is for the companies there isn't as much money in old hardware as there is new, especially where re-buying and re-selling is concerned.
@@ZombieBarioth I used Costa Rica as an example because the chip in the video was labeled as such. I was a bit surprised, as I would think bananas before i7s, but that just goes to show the reach of the globalized economy. A major rethinking will indeed be necessary. It's going to make the transition of the industrial revolution seem simple in comparison. Heck, half the world is still struggling to reach the 20th century.
was the Ryzen 5 1600 Overclock during the test or it run on stock speeds?
Really great video as always :)
Don't just write "mixed" settings.
Tell us the actual settings. (f.e medium +low shadows...)
Do we truly care all "that" much though?
@@MegaHellstrike yes we do
@@MegaHellstrike It's is annoying sometimes. I got into a debate with some guy about performances and he's comparing to to other tech reviewers who use defined settings and I have to somehow compare to randoms mixed settings which could be anything
Fortnite for instance runs much better with shadows turned off, so just turning off that one 1 settings and keeping the other stuff on medium to make a mixed settings while boost performance compared to normal medium.
@@bluescluessuperagent The issue is even greater than that. RGHD often uses Overwatch in his videos with the presets listed, but Overwatch uses different presets with different hardware. 'Epic' is different on a GTX 960 vs a GTX 2080 TI. So each hardware change has to be manually leveled in the settings for Overwatch. When it comes to benchmark tests, you can't compare outlets. You can only compare intra-outlet, and even then you need a defined methodology. RGHD isn't a serious tech reviewer doing huge exposes on hardwear like GamersNexus does, but it is a bit annoying when he trots out 'mixed' settings. All he has to do is screenshot his final settings and post that with the video.
Zacmanman RTX 2080 TI btw not gtx
Great video. I am still running a Sandy Bridge E3-1245 Xeon based T1600 Precision workstation with an RX 570 8 GB as my main machine. Runs great for 1080p gaming.
and here I'm still chugging along on my i5 3570
I5 3450. It's still good enough. Get a decent graphic card and you can do pretty much anything
Right now I'm using a i5 2500k with my GTX 980 ti, it's bottlenecking a lot so I'll definitely try to find one of these cpus. Have been looking for a good alternative with the same socket so thank you, keep up the great work!
i have one problem with this video. with 8 gb of ram and maybe pretty slow one games like witcher 3 will not perform perfekt 0.1 % lows would be better with 16 gb ddr3 and its so cheap that 8 gb isnt the way to go for ultra settings. i think its just a bit missleading.
as always your videos are great but our 8 gb of ram is just a bit too little for videos like this
According to a comparison video both 8gb and 16gb of ram should give you around twice the fps over 4gb of ram. the only difference being at least two fps with 16gb over 8gb. I think it takes the cake.
Been running my 3770k at 4.2GHz on a Asus Z77-V pro since mid 2012. Runs great. Upgraded it to a GTX1070 and 8GB more RAM and it's just awesome
in the gameplay section of ac odessey gpu uses hovers around 80% only and lowest drop to 74%. the game isnot using full gpu strength. my gtx 1060 avarage around 42 ish fps. u really should look into the system. Try using dual channel memory it might fix it
I've been looking for a decent Z77 board lately and yeah... people want stupid money for the Sabertooth boards. Then again, people are trying to ask $85 for barebones Z77 board.
"GPU literally running only at 70% percent usage" didn't bottle neck at all....
I’m on a X79 Sabertooth, on effectively a 6 core 3770K (i7 4930K) very long lasting boards these (i have a x99 one needing two pins unbending; got that thing for just postage at £17 something)
Great content/benchmarks etc as always dude
Good video mate but, you forgot that your 1070 is NOT from 2012 so by that this video isn't accurate
Gamen4Bros I wish he put in a 670/680/690.
Great video, I hadn’t seen this one just yet but have watched your channel. I actually found this exact board, cpu and also 16 GB of ram for $3,99 at a thrift shop. I bought a $6 cooler and it actually works, I’ll figure out what I am going to do with it for my channel. I was just happy to find it and it works for so cheap.
Man that's a good deal
I got a similar setup for the same price 2 years ago. It's still my daily driver.
I'm still using this motherboard paired with i5 3570, and a GTX 980. And its still going great 2day.
Pascal has issues with Ryzen in some games. Turing is better (not perfect). If your 1070 was a Vega 56, you'd have seen no stutter (likely) on the Ryzen system.
Turing has worse 1% and 0.1% lows than Pascal 90% of the time.
@@saladwithsalad Vega in that case, has better 1% and .1% lows than both.
@Cuzeg Spiked
That is not BS. I have tested it.
R9 Fury + 1500X sometimes beats GTX 1080 Ti + 1700X.
@Cuzeg Spiked
Here
imgur.com/gallery/oTNrz
Boredgunner/Jester is a friend of mine. I benched with my Fury and 1500X alongside him and the reason we cant include them is because it would break benchmarking code. My 1500X and Fury combo managed to overcome an OCed 1700X and 1080 Ti several times...and by a lot. For an example I did the exact same Unreal 2004 run as he did and got 98 fps average. He got 72...
I bought i7 3770K in May of 2012 and Im still using it. Now its running on 4.5GHz paired with GTX 1080Ti and 16GB DDR3 1866MHz with 1TB SSD and still gets the job done very well.
Hey man
Grab some merch and make some more money
This kind of video makes me really love my Core i5 3570K, 16Gb DDR3 and GTX 1060 3Gb..
You should have used a 2012 VGA as well like a 7970 or something ☹️
Recently purchased an X-79 Deluxe Asus motherboard. With an i7 3820, extremely happy.
I'm still running the 3770k at 4,8 Ghz with 2400 mhz ram, it's pretty decent
KichLing the ram gets out the best in it.
I'm running a non-k at 4.2ghz with 2133mhz
@@mortenee88 how does the performance scale with this kind of RAM frequency? I have 2x4gb 1600 mhz, and could consider upgrading it.
4.8ghz ?? Are u using liquid nitrogen as cooling 3770 shouldnt clock that high
@@hifkman de-lidding and liquid metal makes a HUGE difference. I delidded mine, and it never goes above 55-57C on air.
That's at 4.2ghz. But it used to do 70C before de-lidding it
I love that processor, I deal with used PCs and parts on the side and building a 500€ gaming PC with this gem was among my favorite projects so far.
Got mine in a mystery purchase of a "broken" editing PC for 120€ (which also had a 850w power supply).
Not. Enough. Ram.
Rocking an i5-3570k at 5ghz on a H-77 mobo and still having no problems. It's good to see old tech can still play new titles
I just cannot find a 3rd-4th gen i7 that isn't above $100
R/hardwareswap
I was able to find a 3770k, 8gb of ram, an asus z77 board, and corsair 600t case for 50. Its possible, just be weary
Pro tip, look for older Xeons. If you're okay with a locked processor that is. I just snatched up an e3-1270 for $55. Thing performs exactly the same as an i7-2600 and should keep up a 1070 well fed.
@Jay Arre There is a Hardware Canucks video that compares the 8700k and 2600k at stock and overclocked. At stock it performs basically the same as the 8700k with a GTX 1070. Are you speaking from experience? Have a contrary performance chart? Or are you just saying no?
I got a 4770 for $100
I love ur videos. U speak to us budget gamers. Not like other youtubers here toking abt Rtx 2080ti
I've got i7-3770 for $85
Still running the same sabertooth board and an i5 3570k and can't complain, still going strong for my needs
Actually , HASWELL was Intel's BEST generation ! ( 4th gen )
Agreed. i have a 4770k here and not even closely inclined to upgrade. It runs EVERYTHING
haswell was just process improve ivy only moderate performance increase next major jump was Skylake not haswell
thanks for this. it confirms my own policy of always trying to buy an i7 if i can afford it...even if I have to go back a couple of generations. they are just the most future proof of any CPU. Here you've gone back 6 years and its absolutely fine for mid-level gaming still. Very impressive!
wtf meanwhile I'm trying to find a good deal on just the cpu and they're running 150+! who are your contacts??
Tell me about it. $148 seems to be the going rate for a i7-3770K today. Sometimes I wonder about these deals RUclipsrs claim to get. Is that the price minus the ad revenue they get for their clickbait videos?
Great video man! Bring more budget pc configurations!
You pretty much showed how this "bottleneck" mania regarding cpus is just pure BS. Who owns an high end 3rd and up I7 cpu should in no way listen to those that says that these cpu will bottleneck games heavily. I also blame Bf1 for this, because that game after a certain update started to stutter heavily and everyone jumped on the cpu bottleneck bandwagon. Bottleneck exist but don't be fooled by ignorants.
Neiva its not bottleneck, it's just clock speeds...
This cpu bottlenecks even the 1070
@@Globss your joke is making me laughing so much
@@Neiva71 this make me laugh since I've a 1080 and a 4790 (which is in the same performance ballpark as the 3770k) and it still doesn't bottleneck neither especially at 2K
Exactly, I'm playing 144hz 1080phigh to ultra settings with an i7 5820k @4,2ghz and a gtx 1070ti @2,1ghz, I even get more Than 18000 points in firestrike.
Watching him find all these deals makes me want to build budget PC's with hardware like this.
Pity I'm In Australia where prices are stupid high
What about Brian from tech yes city...he does amazing used parts pickups all the time,and he lives in Australia, on the gold coast.
lol I'd knew someone would talk about him. He actually lives 30 mins away from me. Honestly don't know how he finds such crazy deals. He must be up all night 😂
But seriously most people price hardware way too high in AUS, then one person puts out a crazy price then he obviously gets it
@@cameronvanhooft yeah, those deal videos are always really hit and miss. I'm in the US and I've found a ton of great parts.....but I have to wade through all the super over priced stuff or crap in my local market. And I probably spend way too much time anyway on those sites. It's like 2nd nature for me to check them. I can see Australia being worse
@@cameronvanhooft I was also about to suggest Brian of Tech Yes City. 😂
These days even phones are top notch. Get it? Top notch? Okay, I’ll shut up
Not bad :) least it was oringanal unlike most worn out jokes and crap people saying in comments
How was I so unfunny on 2018
My partner and I both have i7 3770s (the locked version), mine since brand new back in 2012 and neither of us has ever come close to thinking that we might need an upgrade for any game that we have thrown at them. I think perhaps it was tech yes city (might have been hardware unboxed) that recently voted the i7 3770 one of the best budget gaming CPUs out there considering the price you can get them for now and the performance that they give. I'm looking forward to seeing just how many years I can run new titles at max with my 3770.
OC that 3770k to 4.5/4.6GHz and will win with ryzen 5 1600 in games
That's what he did
I dont think so , my i7 3770k at that speed is doing 800cb, his i7 did only ~720
@@krzywy_kciuk2414 I'm pretty sure he used single channel memory? He has one stick of green shit ram.
Why not run dual channel 2133 mhz?
No he said 4.2ghz modest overclock when he mentioned overclocking the cpu and he also said which is frequency most should be able to achieve. Get your ears cleaned TheMangerChild
@Jay Arre not it's not it's cheap as hell.
Love the slick design of that motherboard too, haven't seen something like it so far.
Better experience than a 2017 ryzen chip. Check (▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)
2025 "Can you still game on this ancient 30$ AMD hexa-core from 2017." Meanwhile the 7700k is going to choke on its own toothpaste.
R.I.P. raisins fanboy
Great video mate! (I'm def American!) I've always loved them and I watched before I had the PC I'm proud to call gaming (Ryzen 3 1200 Rx 570) It's been a long time coming. Anyway. You've always inspired me and continue to!
Im impressed at how good that i7 is doing. Most likely beat my Ryzen 3 1200 @ a modest 3.5.
Omg you AMD fanboy!
You cannot compare the 3770K with the Ryzen 5 1600 using only 8GB with a single module in singel channel?! My i7 2600K outperforms that poor i7 3770K you're abusing, and that should not be the case!
First off, make sure you run 2x8GB in dual channel at around 1866Mhz to 2133Mhz at least, then you can compare it to a Ryzen 5 1600 build and see the i7 3770K outperforming the Ryzen cpu in most games. GLHF!
smh seriously with the stupid fanboy accusations. Random does stuff like this all the time. He conversely never overclocks his ram when testing Ryzen APUs. It's not him fanboying or trying to hurt any particular brand.....it's just mistakes or his mantra of going budget (even when it hurts such as not doing dual channel or going 16gb ddr3 ram which anyone would have with the cpu considering ddr3 ram prices or not using faster ram or oc'd ram etc)
Wasn't the performance difference between a single stick of 1333 Vs 2133 in dual channel basically the same within margin of error back on DDR3? Can you point me in a direction of any gaming benchmarks that reflect the performance benefits of high speed ram on DDR3?
@@bennyuoppd33 Check out the difference on Ryzen (since he's saying BS about the i7 not being slower than the R5 1600) between DDR4 ... let's say 2400 and DDR4 3200. It's a big difference, very noticeable, especially on the Zen platform cpu. I got a R5 2600x and going from 2133 DDR4 (no XMP profile) to 3000 (stock XMP profile) made a difference of about 10 fps.... and I don't think he's really running Rainbow Six Siege at Ultra... with my R5 2600x and my GTX 1080 on all settings maxed at 1080P I saw between 140 and 190 with max 70% gpu usage...and considering the 1070 is a slower card by about 30% (maybe even more), his numbers don't really match with Ultra...
@@bennyuoppd33 Nah, you can check it out yourself, digitalfoundry probably have a few comparions on memoryspeeds on older platforms. But as things progress, memory speed of older platforms in newer games makes a difference. In the early days games wasn't that demanding of memory bandwith since they usually didnt max out the cpus anyways. It's true that faster ram dont make a lot of different on non overclocked older cpus, but nowadays faster rams scales well with clockspeed of the cpu. Mainly becase new platforms already have an adventage of memory bandwith, the game devolopers set that as the new standard for the games. To be able to match the new standard in bandwith you need faster ram. 1333Mhz on sandy bridge or newer will severly bottleneck the cpu. 1600Mhz as well at some extent. Sweetspot for DDR3 would be 2133Mhz to 2400Mhz for the cpus that can handle it and if the cpus are overclocked.
My motherboard died recently so I got a new one (p67) and right now I only got the overclock stable at 1866Mhz. With the i7 2600K at 4.6Ghz I get 810 points in cinebench R15. If you get a lower score than that on the i7 3770K overclocked to 4.5Ghz theres something crippeling the system since Ivy bridge had slightly better IPC than Sandy Bridge. And "Random guy" got around 750 points or even less?
Well you can argue that it only will give you a few percents performanceboost with faster ram in dual channel, but for a fact the biggest difference (also the most important I think) will be improved 1%, and 0.1% lows. Ram speeds on older platforms are already their biggest bottleneck so the goal is to reduce those as much as possible to imrpove the overall stability in framerate.
I don't have any recent data but going from 1333Mhz or even 1600Mhz to 2133Mhz or 2400Mhz memory will give you a big boost in performance, especially in scenarios where memory bandwith will be the main bottleneck. Check out performance in games like Crysis 3 or Far Cry 4. I think they will be good for these types of benchmarks.
Still rocking i5 2500 from 2011. So far zero problems with anything.
I had it teamed up with the GTX 560ti up until early this year, and to everyone's surprise I could still 1080p / ~60fps many modern games with it. Now with GTX 1060 6gb, it runs ANYTHING.
The i7 3770K might however be my next upgrade. LGA1155 socket, lower power consumption, and addition of HT + better OC = sweet!
Still have my delidded 3770k running at 4.8ghz since 2015 (was running at stock from 2012 to 2015) paired with the gtx 1080. Rock solid.
Nice! Just putting finishing touches to my i7-3770 (non-K) - still gonna be quite an upgrade from my X4 965... I was going to carry the 750Ti over from the 965, but went for a 1060 - now thinking maybe I should have gone higher on that. Also appears that the non-K can sneak a couple of extra steps using the max turbo multiplier.
The i7-2600k/3770k's are beasts! Got my 3770k @ 4.7 with a GTX 1080, and 16GB ram at 2400mhz, bought the board, CPU and ram for $160 CDN. Curious to see how these comparisons would stack up if both systems were running 16GB at max supported speed ~3000 for Ryzen and ~2400 on Intel side. I saw a solid performance jump in smoothness when I got faster ram, and I've heard this is even more of a jump on Ryzen systems. Also curious to know the speeds of the ram on these systems as they were tested here, even just a mention in the video description would be nice for reference.
Definitely love to see you giving love to some more high-end old school hardware, as this seems like the true value for money if you want high end gaming but don't need the new features of modern chipsets. Assuming you can actually find the boards/i7's at decent prices
wow. nice deals! my best was only an i7 975 / 16 gb @ 1600 ...
Should i get i7 3770 non k or i7 2600k?
@@resisthor 2600k.
I have an I7-3770k overcooked at 4.4Ghz. 16gb ram and water cooling on an older ROG mobo. It's held up and will remain in my system for the future few years I have it.
great video as always mate, i have a i7 4790 NONE k and its paired with a GTX 970 and 16gb of ram, i ordered a Gigabyte G1 SNIPER motherboard but the socket was faulty, getting to the point i have seen videos of people messing with the bios in certain motherboards and you are able to overclock a none k CPU, i wanted to try thhis with my setup but i had to revert to my previous motherboard i think that would make a great video :)
The first computer I built was in 2012 and it had this z77 ASUS board with an i5 2600k and a gtx 660ti... actually still kinda good today!
The i7 3700k is still a freaking beast, especially when overclocked to 4.5 ghz with hyper threading enabled. I'm sure it competes, if not beats out the ryzen equivalents in gaming. I'm rocking the 3770k in my older build with a gtx 980 ti.
I still have a 3770k at home and I ‘ve managed to pull it to 4,9ghz delided at 1,360 v and it still keeps up with all the modern games
my brother runs a Z77 Sabretooth with a 3770k still works just fine for gaming and computing. we never installed the motherboard fans and the board is still fine.
This is the content i subscribe for. Keep it coming!
2 years newer than my motherboard and processor. Have upgraded my RAM to 24Gb which is the most my x58 can handle. Got a 980ti. Runs a treat with a £60 solid state hard drive. I will upgrade to a 7nm gamming system end of next year.
the fps drops in fortnite when loading on that island with everyone is completely normal it really depends on at what time your playing the game. sometimes its smooth and sometimes it feels laggy. I had a i3 6100 with a 1060 3gb and had the same problem sometimes, right now I have a ryzen 5 2600 with a gtx 1070 and same problem.
I had an i7 3770 and H77 motherboard until very recently, combined they cost me a crazy £20 so I was quite happy. I recently upgraded to an i7 3930k and Asus X79 motherboard for around £140 so again I was quite happy with the price. I’ve paired this with a StriX GTX 970 and 16GBs of ram to form an awesome gaming rig that cost less than a 1080 TI would cost new (if my maths is right that is)
Color me impressed, this bad boi fought hard and i think he's doing just fine in 2018
You got that cpu on a real bargain. I am still at a I5 3570K @4.4. it still suits me fine. I am building my systems for over twenty years now. Usually building a new one every few years. Never before has a system served me for this long. I only upgraded the graphics card two years ago to a RX 480.
I'm still running an Fx8350 oc and a 7970 gigabyte edition, still nice to see old hardware holding up well. 😃
I got an ASUS X79 DELUXE board with a 3960X from a former collague. It was still holding up pretty well for what it was.
This is the same CPU ive been using for 5-6 years and its been running @ 4.5ghz for about 2 and a half years now. before that it was on water cooling and ran @ 4.8ghz. this was 24/7 as it was video encoding a lot and doing 3d modeling / animation. It still getting used 24/7 @ 4.5ghz on air. Its been a fantastic CPU. And you got a fantastic deal there. when i mean 24/7 i mean when i was not using the PC it is encoding nearly all the time.
I had an 2600K with 16GB RAM that I bought on launch in 2011 and started with a 560 Ti, upgraded to a 680 4GB and later to a 1070 earlier. Upgraded the whole rig to a 8700K, 32GB RAM earlier this year. The 2600K is still a very capable CPU, although with the new 8700K the framerate is much smoother and I barely notice any stutter in games and such.
2nd and 3rd gen processors from Intel are quite underrated now, but they still keep up really nicely!
I have an i5-3470 with a GTX 750 Ti, this combo performs well
I wish I had a RX 570/580 or a GTX 1060 so I could play games in 1440p and the CPU would reach it's max potential
I bought a i7 4790k bundle last year and I am very happy! :)
Whoah, that was an amazing deal! The motherboard and CPU by itself now costs around the same as the bundle.
i've got an i7-4790k and it still kicks ass in 2018
I'm running that motherboard still today, and it has a design fail that's so hateful... The battery. It's located under the armor, so if it run out you have to tear down the entire PC to change it (the screws that hold the shield in place are under the board). Apart from that, a 3770K can easily reach 4.5/4.8 GHz and have almost the same performance as a 4770/90K.
Thanks to your insight I found an i7 6700k and motherboard for 150 :)
The CPU I have in my main PC. Got it in 2012 and still using it today.
My old i7 870 still does ok.
Struggles in some games to maintain 50 even at low settings but that's only in really demanding games or poorly optimised ones.
I think most CPUs since 2010 will still have life in them.
I remember wanting one of these(A different socket) motherboards, they had such an overkill VRM cooler