Many proper mining systems ran the GPUs tuned for them, usually miners underclocked/posibly undervolted the core and overclocked the VRAM and try to aim for best efficiency
I have two 1080 ti that i buy very cheap because they were used for minning, anyways the owner used this twins in a undervolted and underclocked enviroment and there you have it, 6 months of work at 120% tdp like the first day
@@brrebrresen1367 They're all over the internet, and changing out a cooler with good fans is possible for most cards. Sometimes, there are many solutions!
Picked up a 1050 Ti that was mined on. Seller neglected to note that they flashed a different BIOS on it. Tried flashing back myself but bricked it because Gigabyte cards can't be flashed backwards. Luckily it was under warranty and the RMA department reflashed it for me. Working like a champ now.
It's kind of like buying a high mileage used car. Can it be good, and still last you for a long time? Sure. Can it break down in a month or two? Yes, that too.
lol, i went and watched your "how to make an amd cpu fit an intel motherboard" video....good stuff (really thought there would be a hammer involved though) :D
I picked up a Red Devil RX580 8GB that was an ex-miner and got a great deal on it. Runs flawlessly and looked like it had barely been out of the retail box. There's really nothing wrong with ex-mining cards as long as you ask questions and use a bit of care before committing your money to it. There's always going to be a bit of risk, but that's true of buying anything used.
@@DumbArse well the problem is with computer components once their use has been reached they die out of nowhere you could be getting 144fps in a game at 4k and boom dead.
@@mver191 lol no way, i mean theres no way, its been out for like 3 months and your blown one allready, theres no way stop bullshitting, no matter how hard you mine, what your temps are, what over clock, theres no way you killed it that early, even if you did you can get it replaced from nvidia for free
I agree with these comments but I don't want to make a big deal about it so I'll just add this extra long explanation so everyone can see that I agree with these comments.
A bud of mine bought a 1070ti for $100. The seller was from facebook and said that he was getting a better card. I was so jealous and shocked. My friend went to pick it up and use it for a bit. Runs perfectly well.
Thing about mining cards is that the steady workload that mining provides is actually a lot easier on the GPU than the load fluctuations that are seen in heavy gaming.
Mining card won't perform worse than a non mining card. A mining card, especially its VRAM modules and capacitors, will however die prematurely. Capacitors are easy to replace, but dead VRAM means the card is dead. That being said, 24/7 mining will only shorten the lifetime of such card by a negligible difference. Let's say a card that spend its life gaming, will last 5-8 years, a mining card would go 4-6 years perhaps. But there is not guarantee. TL; DR: If you can get very good deal on a used gfx card, go for it. EDIT: Dying VRAM will show artifacts on the screen before the card stops working. Bad capacitors will mean the card will shut down at load.
may heaven bless that miner on eBay who was willing to give me an amazing deal on a 1080. evga warranty ftw - not that i've ever had to file a claim. It's been two or three months and still going strong with no issues :)
Great find! I saw an ad on my local craigslist a few weeks ago and the guy was selling this same exact card for $90 a piece (he had 5 from a mining rig). I offered $80 and he accepted. I took it home and tested it and ended up buying a second one from him for $80 the next day! Yay!
I used to be a small'ish gpu miner myself & i hate it when people post a buying ad for a gpu & type something like "NO MINING CARDS!" I undervolted every card (to save on electricity/make less heat) & also make sure they ran under 70c while keeping the fanspeed low as possible to minimize the wear on that + also dusted them every 1-2 months. (open air setup really loves to get dusty fast) We, as (ex)miners also want the GPU to last long time
Esp since the market just went to hell in the tech sector and broader market as a whole with AMD down more than 60% what it was a month ago, micron down to $38 from the $62 highs earlier this year, down more than 15% in the last month alone and 30% in last three months. Intel at $47 down from peak $56 in June and having essentially held the $47 price point this last 3 months so it's not any worse for them. And Nvidia down 26% to $212 in the last month from $290
@@1911Zoey Yup, I still stand by everything I said. Intel just had a massive dip, AMD making a big comeback again, Intel lagging quite a bit now, they just went from $58-51 -- good thing I sold at 56, micron just not doing much in general, and Nvidia... Well, they're technically way up compared to christmas prices but they're lower than my initial message still
i noticed in the section with superposition you need to change a setting in your radeon settings to make it perform much better. youll pick up some fps in your games and make assassins creed run a little better. go to your general 3d settings and go to the global watt man tab. scroll down to power control and make sure its up to +20% or +50% whatever your card goes up to. for whatever reason amd made it so cards would throttle gpu usage and clock speeds with it at 0% it doesnt effect your card to turn it up and when using xfire for example the second card will be at like 300 mhz and the main card will only get 50% utilization in some cases if the setting isnt turned up and left at 0%. nobody games to save power and thats all it is like the windows power saving features. any time ur comp crashes thanks to windows youll need to check and reset watt man power settings to +20% or +50% look it up amd watt man power settings and enjoy your games how they were intended to be played.
I picked up an MSI 8GB RX 580 GamingX from eBay last October which I'm fairly certain was used for mining. After 4 months ownership, no issues, no crashes or artifacts, fans are quiet, plays Forza Horizon 4 and Doom 2016 beautifully, no complaints. Plus, where it's MSI, at least in Canada, the 3yr warranty is tracked by the Serial Number starting at the date of manufacture if you have no proof of purchase, so if it dies it's covered, at least for another year.. Good chance your RX570 would still be covered as well..
@@jr_kulik its not a scam unless it was not as adveritised imo him saying it was mined on is as adveritised a scam would be him trying to be selling it as new
Great video as usual,, ur the one inspiring me to not be afraid getting used pc part.. I got msi 1060 3gb at $240ish ex miners,, i know thats not a best deal,, but at that moment normal gaming used 1060 was like $300ish.. and its still working fine after 5-6months in my hand..
I picked up a used 1050Ti for $63 shipped that was used for mining back in February. The seller bought the card back in September of last year. The card works great despite the fact that half the shroud was cut away to make it fit inside the mining rig, which meant that one of the 2 fans was also missing. Still the card works great and I havent seen any worries with the performance or thermals. I paired it up with a i5 3570 and 8gb of ram and use it as a backup rig in my bedroom. The whole thing cost me ~$330 but could have been under $300 if I opted for a cheaper case (q300p) and a lower power supply (corsair cx650m).
Thanks for the honest review, just bought one myself due to the savings in price. Gonna use it in my new gaming comp. got everything now but keyboard, mouse, and SSD's. Will let you know how it performs.
You are right about mining cards, most of them are actually in great condition, since they are undervolted to the max for max performance/watt, and mining doesnt tax the gpu as much as gaming does either.
Got an RX 460 2gb used today for $65($55+$10 shipping). I’m excited and can’t wait for it to arrive(my first dedicated Graphics card I have owned). The seller seems legit and he stated that the card may need a change of thermal paste(pretty simple job that I was planning to do anyways) and his honesty made me feel better.
On AC: Odyssey, turn volumetric clouds off or on low. Then turn up AA to medium (since it uses upsampling vs msaa). Funny how this is supposed to be an AMD title 🤔
@Jonathan Soko tbh, Nvidia "optimized" titles seem to be running fine on pretty much all cards these days (save for things like hairworks, which may or may not decimate performance for AMD cards). It used to be a hell of a lot worse for AMD gpu's.
Planning of buying an ex mining RX570 8Gb tomorrow in 2019. Found a local store which provides 6 month guarantee for just USD 120. Hope everything will go well.
buying from miners is like driving a car 100km economically, getting best mileage. buying from a gamer is like driving a car 50km but high rpms and max acceleration. the gpus may have been looked after but have higher usage hours. 24/7 mining, give the cards a break.
Thermal cycles kill electronics, turning thins on and off (high heat, low heat, repeat) is exactly how you stress test parts. If you want to test 5 years worth of fatigue, you just need a few weeks... I run stress tests on cards in between video renders to keep them warm, because heating and cooling often is really bad for them. My first GPU died extremely fast from thermal fatigue (but on the extreme cold end, the solder eventually cracked going from -58c idle back up to room temp when powered off, and almost back up to freezing temps at 0c when doing loads). So it had a super accelerated death, but the same happens with regular air cooled cards, it just takes a lot more thermal cycles. This is why "baking" GPUs works, the solder eventually cracks from all the thermal cycles, and you can rejoin it by baking/re-heat, so that just shows its often thermal fatigue that kills these.
@@jakegarrett8109 thermal cycle isnt the biggest factor in degradation, its the time theyre being used, look at batteries for example everytime you drain and recharge them the capacity gets smaller, recharging while its already 100% is also a wasted cycle. unless you are constantly turning it on to stress test then off and let ot cool down and do the same over and over yes its gonna kill it, but barely anyone does that, turning your pc on and off once a day and use it for 4 hours is still better than having it on 24/7. you sound like a miner trying to scam people by selling her abused hardware
@@rgbgamingfridge Haha, solder and batteries are not the same... Its not chemical inter-reactions, its purely mechanical. Solder is a metal. You know how metal fatigues? Its from loading cycles. Since GPUs don't exactly get bent repeatedly, its thermal contraction and expansion of the solder joints that usually kills them. That's why COMPANIES (don't just take my word as a mechanical engineer, look at what all the big companies do), they test by heating and cooling rapidly to find out how long it will last. My Titan undergoes about 2 dozen full heat (84c then back down to below 40c) thermal cycles per video I edit. I render a portion, look at it, and render again. This is how jet engines are rated. They used to go by hours, but people doing "island hopping" with them on short runs caused them to undergo a stupid amount of thermal cycles and now they primarily use that number (I'm also an aerospace engineer, so we talked about this kind of thing in our propulsion class)
@@jakegarrett8109Yep, I recently put one of my HD7970s in the oven to get it back working after the RMA failed to fix it. I had nothing to lose but I have Crossfire back and can game again properly...though on nearly 7 year old cards now. I'll have to keep a look out for a good used mining card since the RTX series isn't compelling me, especially with word of failures on some of them.
I ve just bought the Strix version of the RX570(new,not SH) that was priced like the 1050 ti(both are 200$ dollars in my country though) and you came out with this video.
@@@Radovanslav - if its equivalent to a gtx 660 then $100 is way expensive...ps I just looked and benchmark site has the quadro performing closer to a 650 or 650ti. It's probably clocked a lot lower than the gaming version
Recently I purchased (before watching the review) a custom mining RX 580 4GB (2304SP) from China similar from Hardware Unboxed reviewed for just 98 dollars with free shipping. I experienced a slight issue with the HDMI port which is common for these cards and a slight tap/wobble of the jack or moving the cable a little bit may interrupt the signal and flashes gray static randomly. Fortunately after I kept it snug, this issue was gone. I'm using the card for over a month now and it runs good enough with the R3 2200G playing Far Cry 5 Ultra 1080p around 55-75FPS AVG. I even tried overclocking the stock clocks from 1340MHz @ 1150mV to 1440MHz @1175mV which was stable while testing a loop in Unigine Heaven for about 40 minutes and stayed under 75C fans maxed @90%. Overall it was an FAIR experience but still it was a risky thing since shipping back the item will cost extra if the card was total a dud.
Bought my MSI RX 570 ARMOR 8gb OC edition for 169 Euro's, an upgrade from my old MSI R7950 twin frozr 3gb oc edition haha. I wanted the 4gb version, but took the 8gb one. There was only a 5 Euro different . Super happy with the upgrade. Cool that you got it for cheap! Nice combo with my Ryzen 5 1600.
Now that's odd my Sapphire Pulse RX 580 8GB Runs AC Odyssey at 60Fps or more on High Settings and the Temps Hit 60c-65c Max the average is 55c... Granted the RX 570 is a Tier Below it should at least run Ac Odyssey at 60Fps on Medium... Oooh I just had a thought did you install the Radeon Settings? With the Driver? If you did and your Running MSI Afterburner... Then they are Fighting for Settings and Global Tab usually is Locked at 60Fps Default it will Hamper most Benchmarks... I Only installed the Drivers and use Msi Afterburner for Tweaks... Check your Settings Dude if you did install that Wattman Crap it might be fighting... Course someone is probably going to tell me I am talking nonsense, but running two software's that do the same thing can lead to issues.
@@JonaFolgt Well that explains it... He will have took look into his settings and Remove the Frame Lock if its active... That should give back frames, though it will still fight with Msi Afterburner... Wattman kept screwing with my settings... So then I just did a Fresh Driver without the Radeon Settings and Frames are Swank and Under my full control... Believe me I've spent hours tweaking to get the best Graphics to Performance and Temps in Odyssey and Frankly I am in Love with the Ship Combat!
@@elirantuil5003 No it's the GPU just some settings in the Bundled Radeon Software that's why I don't use it just use the Drivers and Msi Afterburner. The Radeon Settings Program and Customer Telemetry Shit Muzzles the Card. The CPU he's using is plenty powerful.
@Jay Arre Lol I joined RUclips on May 28, 2013. I can guarantee you joined way after considering the fact that you have no videos, no subscribers, and the default channel layout.
@@joenodden same I didn't have a account until 2013 but I joined when I kid like back in 2011 I have like 7 accounts and 2 of them got deleted by Google
just want to thank you for your vids and help . i managed to bag a dell optiplex 9020 core i5 1 tb hd and 8gig ram for £100 . neeed a gpu but very happy with the deal
@@UnacceptableViews Doesnt seem your life is in good state. You're the rarity who doesn't get his comment as a joke. Take your toxicity somewhere else, maybe go outside, try getting some friends.
@@gateopssss i just don't have time for stupid unfunny jokes. the only "toxicity" here is kids like you who tell people to go outside and get friends. meanwhile i work 10 hour days to make up for slackers like you who don't feel the need to get a job and earn your keep in society
@@TheNightquaker Aye, the games are worth about £100 not that I play any bar AC, but for £160 you can't go wrong especially when the card goes for around £190-200 else where
I bought my GTX 1060 used from Ebay 4 months ago for $160. It was used for mining by the previous owner for a few months, so I benchmarked it extensively with games like Monster Hunter World and Final Fantasy XV everyday and it handles those with no issues. Never breaks over 70C under full load and I've even overclocked it to 2050 boost core and 4404 memory core with no problems. I couldn't be any happier because a card like this would have easily cost me an extra $100.
Yeah I feel had a armour 1060 and since they didn't thermal pad the chokes mine kinda blew up with 200mhz core bump and nothing to the memory. They told me I'm not eligible for a refund so I'm out 500 USD (happened in February)
@FeelTheThunderHonestly, I wouldn't go past stock clocks for temperature and power reasons. Undervolt, have a more stable stock clock instead of overclocking. It's worth the peace of mind.
Subi_fan nope kept everything stock but bumped the core up by 200mhz and all I heard was a popping sound and no more displays. When I tried to rma it they said You oced it no refund.
I've been using an old 1070 that had a previous life mining for a year so far and it's still running strong with a nice overclock. I paid $220 for it right at the wrong time to buy anything new.
Thanks my friend for the "Euro €" price im from Germany. I Hope the UK will be still in the EU. I wish all much luck and Hope for a Good Ending of the shit episode. Much Love and Power from 🇩🇪 be STRONG 💪😏
@@pc-broke8348 wenn das mal so laufen würde, aber ja Regirungen müssen sich auch an Gesetze halten dazu zählt das ein einfaches "Nein" leider nicht so funktioniert; ich denke aber selber auch das es mit einem klaren "Nein" besser ist und auch deutlich günstiger ist. Leider ist dem nun nicht so.
Killing it man i got a Gigabyte G1 480 8GB, PowerColor RX470 4GB and GTX 960 for 500myr, 330myr and 310myr. People are dropping used cards around like crazy. Got my Zotac AMP 1080 for 1500myr a few month back.
I purchased a XFX R9 290x which was probably used for mining around 2016. It still works flawlessly to this day. As this is around half of MSRP you could just buy two cards for and IF one of them dies you still have one for the price of MSRP and some may still have warranty. I’m not completely sure but maybe having a constant heat load would mitigate expansion and contraction of heating and cooling of different loads on the GPU loads with gaming. However the constant use and erosion of electrons might be something else to consider with longevity. I’m pretty sure Etherium was more VRAM intensive so I wonder if the VRAM would fail first rather than the GPU core. IDK if any of this is accurate but just some things to consider.
I recently bought a used Sapphire Nitro+ RX 570 8gb for my daughter's gaming PC off eBay for $110 including shipping so pretty close to what RandomGaminginHD paid. I chose to buy a card from someone being honest about what it was used for who said it was used in an open air clean environment. The GPU did come in looking brand new, no dust or dirt of any kind, the only issue it had was a slightly bent backplate preventing it seating properly but I fixed that in a couple minutes. Its the first AMD GPU I've ever bought but so far its performing great. There were plenty of sellers selling 10-20 of the same GPU saying in the description on every one, "Runs great! Only used for light gaming for a few months." I'd rather buy from a guy who is honest about what it was used for rather than someone willing to lie to get a sale.
I got a similar deal. $83 for rx 470 8gb on ebay. Works fine. Can't really overclock it without harming stability, but by turning on the fan and upping the power limit slightly (for some reason stock wants to run well under the power rating) I can keep it running at full speed under load.
Recently purchased an EVGA SC2 1080ti ex-mining card before Christmas, don't regret it at all. Runs like an absolute dream even though it had been used for pretty extensive mining. A lot of unnecessary stigma surround mining cards imho
Thank you. You are probably the only person showing actual RX 570 performance. I saw one other video. This is telling. Because what some people are doing is,using a GTX 1060 or 1080 an turning down setting an claiming they're the same card. Others are OC the results an saying See the 1060 is close to the RX 570. They aren't. No where near.
I should add that most mining cards are ulderclocked / under volted for stability as having a card die on your mining rig could wipe out any return from mining.
I just got my rx 570 8GB Gigabyte model today ($85 usd shipped too) from an ex miner "9-10 months in a cooled building" his words. It works great and I'm happy with it (so far) and I knew I could get my money back if shit hit the fan so if anyone sees a mining card be aware but if it seems like a good deal I say go for it.
I got a RX 580 8GB that was really dusty for $160. Now I cleaned it out, replaced the paste with kryonaut and it's running really cool, 1430mhz core with Max temps on any of my games at 65°C
One of my friend used to mine using 7 RX 570s and he modified the bios for low power consumption and stay on low temperature. He loaded the default bios while selling and also sold at a low price like this one.
Nice, I just recently got a RX 480 for 30€, it would shutdown around 5 minutes of working, a good cleaning and new termal paste and it's working as new. It was also a bit yellow and with a sticky black goo, please don't smoke near your PC, the smell gave it away
I used to mine with 1070s and 1080s from what i could say if you are gonna buy mining cards is find a honest seller. Ask how old the card and how long it was used, and ask about if they frequently clean it. I took care of my mining cards even cleaning everything and changing the thermal paste and the thermal pads every 2 months most of them are undervolted to save some changes. I sold all of them for lower prices of course.
Well, some miners install custom bios in their mining gpus to increase the hash rate. IDK if that has to do something with the actual gaming performance of the card but I'm curious to see if this card has one of those bios and how it will perform against the default AMD bios.
I bought myself an ex mining rig XFX RX 580 8gs Black Edition for 180€, which is a pretty decent price here in Germany because a GTX 1060 6gs did cost about 220€. It looked brand new without dust on it and it performs really good for over a month now. The guy I bought it from said it ran in an industrial rig with industry standard air cooling so the card never ran over 60° and I guess he was very honest about it. So yeah if you see an AMD card like this from a mining rig make sure you feel good about it and make sure if the condition of the card. :-)
Dont forget that the card has a 3 year warranty from MSI, your card would be warranted from the manufactured date not purchase date as its second hand, just register it online on the MSI site and if it dies in the next couple of years you will be able to RMA it and get a nice replacement. Ive done this with numerous MSI second hand cards.
I bought RX Vega 56 from honest miner. He mined with the card 24/7 straight for 7 months. And the card works totally fine, now issues. Been using it for couple months already.
Just got one of these new as I’m building a new machine; I don’t do any gaming or even video editing (certainly not 4K), it’s mainly for photoshop and illustrator. Aorus x570 Elite Wi-Fi mobo, 32 Gb ram, NVMe drive with a Ryzen 5 3600. I’m on a budget, but I thought it looks like a good combo.
I bought a sapphire pulse rx 580 4gb that had been briefly used for mining right in the middle of the mining craze for £200, it was a shame to pay this much for a used card but considering everywhere else was sold out i had little choice and im happy to say it has performed perfectly for over a year now. Although the seller assured me he only used it to see what mining was like and never ran it for long
Some miners flash the bios of AMD cards with more aggressive memory timings, which may not be stable in games or other scenarios, so if you can get information from the seller, it'll be great. It's fixable, but you will need to do some work on it.
Hey Random, can you make a video on the intriguing world of aftermarket GPU coolers? I recently bought a used Zotac GTX 1060 6GB Mini ex-mining card, and the cooler on that card is absolutely *horrendous*. It hits 82C after 5 minutes of usage and stays there, leaving absolutely no overclocking headroom. And the fan is annoyingly loud when it ramps up. The card itself is solid, and runs well, and honestly almost made me cry when I first ran it, because I've been running GPU-less for 4 years now, and haven't played any triple A, graphically demanding games since 2013. The only game I've been playing since last year is Paladins, on my Core i5 6600k's iGPU, because I decided to build my new gaming PC right before the cryptomining craze happened, and right before I was about to buy my first GPU since 2012, prices just skyrocketed, and left me high and dry and suicidal. So anyway, I've been exploring some solutions to solving this problem and discovered the intriguing world of aftermarket GPU cooling solutions. And one thing I've learned is it's not as popular as it should be, because aftermarket GPU coolers can drastically improve temps, noise and performance, but sadly it seems like this world is pretty much dying. Apart from Arctic there really isn't any other GPU coolers out there. There's the Raijintek Morpheus II, but the fact that they don't supply fans and charge you $70 for their cooler is a no from me. Also while doing some research, I discovered the beastly looking Thermalright shaman that uses a bloody 140mm to cool your GPU, and it looks absolutely monstrous and badass, but it's a 2010 product and I can't seem to find it anywhere for a reasonable price. Which is what I meant when I mentioned the world of GPU coolers slowly dying. Even Arctic, even though they're the biggest aftermarket GPU cooling solutions, haven't updated their GPU coolers since they've been released. I'm talking about 2010/2011 products sold *to this day* , completely unchanged. I mean I don't really blame them, since their products *still* kick ass, but my god, their GPU coolers look ugly as hell, and I just wished they shipped their GPU coolers with better looking, sleeker fans. Then there's the even more intriguing solution of just straight up mounting a CPU cooler on your GPU, which I see you've recently been acquainted to. DIY Perk's video on this was pretty entertaining, but still left me with the thought of "this is impractical as shit". So on the topic of mounting CPU coolers on GPUs, could you do another video using a more recent card, and also using a budget low profile 120mm CPU cooler? In my honest opinion I think that'd make a pretty interesting video, and could help letting people know about this technique. If you've read this far, I want to thank you and really hope you take this into consideration. I think there's some really cool, wild and mysterious GPU coolers out there to discover if you dig hard enough. Which is what I've always enjoyed about your channel. You discovering some rare, wild hardware on the internet and testing them. I myself will be buying the Arc Accelero Mono PLUS soon to mount on my GTX 1060 mini, (plus a 120mm fan to mount on the Mono PLUS and get rid of that god awful looking stock cooler) since I've recently learned that a lot of people have resorted to doing that for their exact same card, and found the Zotac 1060 6gb mini to actually be an amazing overclocker and dead silent to boot. I can't wait to finally silence my loud as hell card and extract some more performance to prepare for Metro Exodus when it finally comes out.
From what I've seen in this and a couple other vids, the only real issue with retired mining cards seems to be slight higher thermals. I imagine new paste would probably help most "dying" mining cards, since thermal throttling causes a lot of slow down.
I have a very similar setup: Ryzen 5 1600, 14CU RX 560 4 GB, and 8 GB of RAM. The RX 570 is a very great card. In terms of performance, it fits nicely between the GTX 1050 Ti and GTX 1060. The biggest takeaways are: • If you’re buying a mining GPU, see if it was overclocked and what the speeds were if so. Mileage varies; my RX 560 is overclocked to 1325/1725 and sometimes makes DirectX crash when thermals exceed 75°C. Yours doesn’t exceed 70° under load which is good, though I wouldn’t overclock. • Radeon GPUs are more commonly used as mining GPUs rather than gaming, since they lack support for NVidia tech such as PhysX. A 3 GB GTX 1060 can beat an 8 GB RX 580 handily in some titles, though it has less VRAM. • The Radeon RX series is a great series of cards. Though, it won’t compare to a GTX 1070 or better.
I bought my MSI Armor OC RX 580 8GB a while ago. It was also an ex mining card, but the guy I bought it from was a friend of a friend who said that he will gladly give me my money back if I have any problems. SO I decided to do it, as graphics cards (and PC hardware in general) is extremely expensive here in South Africa. The card runs absolutely fine. I replaced the thermal paste when I got it, and that's pretty much it. One thing I will say though, the Armor edition is an utterly horrendous cooler for an RX 580; it's loud and it runs quite hot. A friend's Strix RX 580 runs 20 degrees cooler on with higher overclock at much lower fan speeds. But for the price I paid, I'm a happy gamer.
Easy Workaround for that "problem". AMD gives to much voltage on their Cards. Usually 1.15V or higher for 1300MHz and higher. But the RX570/580 runs perfect on 1-1,05V and 1300-1360MHz. Look up how to undervolt Polaris in Wattman here on RUclips.
I've found that a lot of the second hand graphics cards that were used for mining were generally well looked after (and are often mined in air conditioned rooms as well) so there shouldn't be much of an issue. Can get quite a lot of GPU for not much money. Would be ideal to get one that still has a balance of the 3 year warranty just as a precaution.
Heck. I got a steal on an ex miner Gigabyte RX-580, it had been well looked after going by how clean it was when I got it, plus, it overclocks like a total boss. I managed to get 1480 / 2133 out of it and I'm willing to bet there's still headroom on the VRAM to take it higher since I only did a conservative OC on it.
Yea, at least he is honest. In my country you can see everyone writing - "Like new", "Almost not used", "Not pushed", "Used for gaming" and in the end there is always - 7 pcs., 8 pcs., etc. And they are trying to sell them for close the market price.
My friend just bought a 470 with still a 1.5 yr warranty for €110. In hungary this is a good value for it. A new 570 is around €190. The guy uses in a mining rig but the is in excellent shape.
Honestly, this card was my daily for about a year. Before that, the 470 8G. This thing is an absolute beast and can run anything you throw at it. The one thing that isnt mentioned here is its overclocking ability. Easily hit 2000MHz on memory, and 1400MHz on the core. Add about 15-20 FPS to a decent chunk of those games, and drop the stutter from the Crew 2 when you overclock this beast!
3 weeks ago i bought a rx570 4gb, it was an Asus Expedition model, seller had good rating and the description didn't mention that it was used in a mining rig. It fit my budget so i bought it. When it came it was dust free with a copule of scratches on the shroud but a suspicious piece of tape was placed on the back with "04" written on it, i started suspecting that it was a mining card but it was working really good even with 1300mhz OC. But after 2 weeks during a game of R6 Siege my PC crashed (it happened from time to time even with previous GPU), when i restarted my PC i never got a signal to my monitor from this GPU again, tried everything and still no positive result. So, I returned the card and now i'm waiting for a response from the seller. Ideally i'd like to get my money back to buy a 570 brand new. Mining cards are a gamble when it comes to longevity, You were clearly the luckier one this time, congrats!
Very solid review, I'm looking for either pair of RX 560, ot RX 570 cards(work, and home PC) with 4GB of RAM as 8GB for the games I play I feel is just overkill, and with less overhead I don't think you need as powerful of hardware if you are using an OS like Xubuntu.
Im glad youve rescued this poor miner and now he has a nice life as a gaming component
but what if he was meant for mining what if he wanted to be a miner. But now he's forced to game.
@@toontownlegomaster Graphics card is female, thus She, meaning she is a slave to gaming now..... :)
Did i just Trigger something? lol
@@sammymorini9748 how dare you assuming her gender.
@@aria.e ''her'' yikes
Did you assume its gender?
Many proper mining systems ran the GPUs tuned for them, usually miners underclocked/posibly undervolted the core and overclocked the VRAM and try to aim for best efficiency
Yeah these cards should be far from prone to failure, as proper miner's cards will have less wear and tear than an enthusiastic gamer's card.
@Nevercholt Tech Thankfully that's an easy fix.
I have two 1080 ti that i buy very cheap because they were used for minning, anyways the owner used this twins in a undervolted and underclocked enviroment and there you have it, 6 months of work at 120% tdp like the first day
@@CheffBryan, if that you can get replacement-fans that is...
then it's an easy fix
@@brrebrresen1367 They're all over the internet, and changing out a cooler with good fans is possible for most cards. Sometimes, there are many solutions!
Picked up a 1050 Ti that was mined on. Seller neglected to note that they flashed a different BIOS on it. Tried flashing back myself but bricked it because Gigabyte cards can't be flashed backwards. Luckily it was under warranty and the RMA department reflashed it for me. Working like a champ now.
It's kind of like buying a high mileage used car.
Can it be good, and still last you for a long time? Sure.
Can it break down in a month or two? Yes, that too.
Not quite, this card is only one year old and must still be under warranty
not necessarily...if they modded the bios for undervolting then the warranty is voided
@@christianpervert525 then you just put the original bios back on the card
@@ducket0 but it's voided anyway , you don't think amd can check if the bios was changed in any way?
haha so true
i don't know anything about cars
Kudos to the seller for being honest about how the GPUs were used for mining. Most GTX 1070s on eBay are sketchy at best
And I picked a minor up and got sent to prison
Chris Hansen strikes again lol
Scrap Tech Tips when you drop the soap it’s over
Scrap Tech Tips Gpu minors are people too , there protected under assault law like everyone else
lol, i went and watched your "how to make an amd cpu fit an intel motherboard" video....good stuff (really thought there would be a hammer involved though) :D
Ðavз lmfao
Finally something to crush ms paint! for a good price!
i went on game-debate.com and the amd radeon rx 570 msi armor 8gb is only 10% worse then the nvidia gtx 1060 msi armor 6gb
@@Brandewey yeah and its only like half the price and its also more future proof bc of the 8gb of vram
Paint runs on your CPU
the rz 570 8gb isnt that bad! i used it for a year before i upgraded and i got 60fps medium!
It is the 8gb too. £70!
damn i got mine for $160 or 94.74 pounds...
@@ProCs1100 Stfu
ProCs ProCsmen ur mom gey
@LooseThinker go commit consume product which is used industrially and domestivally to whiten clothes!
this card will run out of compute power long before it can use all 8gb of vram so it's pretty pointless
Oh I'm early, lemme make a joke...
GT 1030 ddr4
lmfao you should do stand up
rip nvidia refresh. more like downfresh/
Let me make it better :
Latest Nvidia 10** series drivers.
You should have done: Turing cards that need to be RMA.
I was just watching a video about that card.
I picked up a Red Devil RX580 8GB that was an ex-miner and got a great deal on it. Runs flawlessly and looked like it had barely been out of the retail box. There's really nothing wrong with ex-mining cards as long as you ask questions and use a bit of care before committing your money to it. There's always going to be a bit of risk, but that's true of buying anything used.
If they were not running dangerously hot they should be fine
@@DumbArse well the problem is with computer components once their use has been reached they die out of nowhere you could be getting 144fps in a game at 4k and boom dead.
@@nicekeyboardalan6972 Thats what happened to my 2080ti. Back to 1060 now :(
@@mver191 you serious!?
@@mver191 lol no way, i mean theres no way, its been out for like 3 months and your blown one allready, theres no way stop bullshitting, no matter how hard you mine, what your temps are, what over clock, theres no way you killed it that early, even if you did you can get it replaced from nvidia for free
hoovies garage computer edition aha
That's the first thing I thought of too haha
Or like one of Tavarish's cars.
Omg I thought the same damn thing
I agree with these comments but I don't want to make a big deal about it so I'll just add this extra long explanation so everyone can see that I agree with these comments.
At least he hasn't tried to swap a 6GB 1060 chip with an 8GB RX580 chip.
I'm seeing your videos quite a bit in the past 2 months, and just now I subscribed, simple videos with a ton of information, keep that way man!
don't even bother to test AC Odyssey. The optimization is really bad and the results won't be accurate.
Glad it worked out. I bought one of these brand new about a year ago and I am loving it.
wow 232k time flies, when i first subscribed he had 26k
Same
I first subscribed when he had -3 subscribers
I came when he had about 40k
When I first started he had around 5k subs I believe
here since 2 or 3k, actually I am not sure if it was 2k or 3k
A bud of mine bought a 1070ti for $100. The seller was from facebook and said that he was getting a better card. I was so jealous and shocked. My friend went to pick it up and use it for a bit. Runs perfectly well.
10:01 video length..
You have reached a 0.1% low
i unsubbed
Haha
@@cone16v same, who does he think he is? Trying to make money off his project
@@umbra9705 The video could easily be shorter so he prolonged it,stfu if you dont have facts.
@@cone16v could just click off the vid if you're that mad
Thing about mining cards is that the steady workload that mining provides is actually a lot easier on the GPU than the load fluctuations that are seen in heavy gaming.
Mining card won't perform worse than a non mining card. A mining card, especially its VRAM modules and capacitors, will however die prematurely. Capacitors are easy to replace, but dead VRAM means the card is dead. That being said, 24/7 mining will only shorten the lifetime of such card by a negligible difference. Let's say a card that spend its life gaming, will last 5-8 years, a mining card would go 4-6 years perhaps. But there is not guarantee. TL; DR: If you can get very good deal on a used gfx card, go for it.
EDIT: Dying VRAM will show artifacts on the screen before the card stops working. Bad capacitors will mean the card will shut down at load.
Good channel man. Been a fan of good deals on hardware ever since and your channel is a must see. Keep up the good job.
may heaven bless that miner on eBay who was willing to give me an amazing deal on a 1080. evga warranty ftw - not that i've ever had to file a claim. It's been two or three months and still going strong with no issues :)
Great find! I saw an ad on my local craigslist a few weeks ago and the guy was selling this same exact card for $90 a piece (he had 5 from a mining rig). I offered $80 and he accepted. I took it home and tested it and ended up buying a second one from him for $80 the next day! Yay!
I bought 1060 3gb for 115€ , it was used for mining and it runs flawlessly.
But where man? Where can i found one with that price? Thanks
@@juxhin ebay? looking a few times more ...
I used to be a small'ish gpu miner myself & i hate it when people post a buying ad for a gpu & type something like "NO MINING CARDS!"
I undervolted every card (to save on electricity/make less heat) & also make sure they ran under 70c while keeping the fanspeed low as possible to minimize the wear on that + also dusted them every 1-2 months. (open air setup really loves to get dusty fast)
We, as (ex)miners also want the GPU to last long time
RandomgaminginHD you should invest all the money you're making into AMD, NVIDIA, MICRON, and INTEL then rename yourself RandomillionaireinHD.
Esp since the market just went to hell in the tech sector and broader market as a whole with AMD down more than 60% what it was a month ago, micron down to $38 from the $62 highs earlier this year, down more than 15% in the last month alone and 30% in last three months. Intel at $47 down from peak $56 in June and having essentially held the $47 price point this last 3 months so it's not any worse for them. And Nvidia down 26% to $212 in the last month from $290
@@stevenbasher5363 $AMD just came back down to earth.
@@stevenbasher5363 more reason to buy stock from these companies since they can pretty much bounce back within 1-2 years.
@@1911Zoey Yup, I still stand by everything I said. Intel just had a massive dip, AMD making a big comeback again, Intel lagging quite a bit now, they just went from $58-51 -- good thing I sold at 56, micron just not doing much in general, and Nvidia... Well, they're technically way up compared to christmas prices but they're lower than my initial message still
Oh boy that Intel inclusion aged like fine milk
i noticed in the section with superposition you need to change a setting in your radeon settings to make it perform much better. youll pick up some fps in your games and make assassins creed run a little better. go to your general 3d settings and go to the global watt man tab. scroll down to power control and make sure its up to +20% or +50% whatever your card goes up to. for whatever reason amd made it so cards would throttle gpu usage and clock speeds with it at 0% it doesnt effect your card to turn it up and when using xfire for example the second card will be at like 300 mhz and the main card will only get 50% utilization in some cases if the setting isnt turned up and left at 0%. nobody games to save power and thats all it is like the windows power saving features. any time ur comp crashes thanks to windows youll need to check and reset watt man power settings to +20% or +50% look it up amd watt man power settings and enjoy your games how they were intended to be played.
2:31 That Was On Purpose
MOANS
I picked up an MSI 8GB RX 580 GamingX from eBay last October which I'm fairly certain was used for mining. After 4 months ownership, no issues, no crashes or artifacts, fans are quiet, plays Forza Horizon 4 and Doom 2016 beautifully, no complaints. Plus, where it's MSI, at least in Canada, the 3yr warranty is tracked by the Serial Number starting at the date of manufacture if you have no proof of purchase, so if it dies it's covered, at least for another year.. Good chance your RX570 would still be covered as well..
Well someone in Switzerland was selling a Vega 64 for 500$, which was used in a big mining rig. What a scammer.
how is he a scammer?
@@noobjitsu1743 500 dollars for a that used card that was used for mining is a scam, I found new cards for that price.
@@jr_kulik its not a scam unless it was not as adveritised imo him saying it was mined on is as adveritised a scam would be him trying to be selling it as new
Xbox Master Selling a *wayy* overpriced card is in my opinion a scam.
Dont worry man no one use vega series for mining
Great video as usual,, ur the one inspiring me to not be afraid getting used pc part..
I got msi 1060 3gb at $240ish ex miners,, i know thats not a best deal,, but at that moment normal gaming used 1060 was like $300ish.. and its still working fine after 5-6months in my hand..
The title reminds me of Tavarish's video naming scheme
Hi fellow Tavarish viewer
can we appreciate how clean that slide was at 2:50 ? without mods.....
Holy I’ve been watching since he had 14k subs
2k subs
I have been around since 2-3k
I was his first sub
MrWaheedulHaque i’ve been watching him before he had any subscribers
The way you worded that just sounds creepy lol.
I picked up a used 1050Ti for $63 shipped that was used for mining back in February. The seller bought the card back in September of last year. The card works great despite the fact that half the shroud was cut away to make it fit inside the mining rig, which meant that one of the 2 fans was also missing. Still the card works great and I havent seen any worries with the performance or thermals. I paired it up with a i5 3570 and 8gb of ram and use it as a backup rig in my bedroom. The whole thing cost me ~$330 but could have been under $300 if I opted for a cheaper case (q300p) and a lower power supply (corsair cx650m).
A week ago I bought a RX 580 for 90$ USD works great
Nice
How?
Thanks for the honest review, just bought one myself due to the savings in price. Gonna use it in my new gaming comp. got everything now but keyboard, mouse, and SSD's. Will let you know how it performs.
hows the card ?? is it any good?
I just bought my rx 570 for 140 with extra shipping, and a free 60 dollar game.
You are right about mining cards, most of them are actually in great condition, since they are undervolted to the max for max performance/watt, and mining doesnt tax the gpu as much as gaming does either.
RX 570 OK,
And?
@@justsomepandawithinternet just a vietnamese guy comments some undefinable thuoghts about pc components tho
Got an RX 460 2gb used today for $65($55+$10 shipping). I’m excited and can’t wait for it to arrive(my first dedicated Graphics card I have owned). The seller seems legit and he stated that the card may need a change of thermal paste(pretty simple job that I was planning to do anyways) and his honesty made me feel better.
This price is very good. And it's even the 8GB version
granted, nothing this card actually has the compute power to do will use up 8gb vram
remember when these went for a starting bid of like $50 for the 4GB model used?
On AC: Odyssey, turn volumetric clouds off or on low. Then turn up AA to medium (since it uses upsampling vs msaa).
Funny how this is supposed to be an AMD title 🤔
Well it doesnt even run good on a Vega 64 which included a key for it so idk what to make of that but then again its Ubisoft afterall
@Jonathan Soko tbh, Nvidia "optimized" titles seem to be running fine on pretty much all cards these days (save for things like hairworks, which may or may not decimate performance for AMD cards). It used to be a hell of a lot worse for AMD gpu's.
Planning of buying an ex mining RX570 8Gb tomorrow in 2019. Found a local store which provides 6 month guarantee for just USD 120. Hope everything will go well.
buying from miners is like driving a car 100km economically, getting best mileage. buying from a gamer is like driving a car 50km but high rpms and max acceleration. the gpus may have been looked after but have higher usage hours. 24/7 mining, give the cards a break.
Thermal cycles kill electronics, turning thins on and off (high heat, low heat, repeat) is exactly how you stress test parts. If you want to test 5 years worth of fatigue, you just need a few weeks... I run stress tests on cards in between video renders to keep them warm, because heating and cooling often is really bad for them. My first GPU died extremely fast from thermal fatigue (but on the extreme cold end, the solder eventually cracked going from -58c idle back up to room temp when powered off, and almost back up to freezing temps at 0c when doing loads). So it had a super accelerated death, but the same happens with regular air cooled cards, it just takes a lot more thermal cycles. This is why "baking" GPUs works, the solder eventually cracks from all the thermal cycles, and you can rejoin it by baking/re-heat, so that just shows its often thermal fatigue that kills these.
@@jakegarrett8109 thermal cycle isnt the biggest factor in degradation, its the time theyre being used, look at batteries for example everytime you drain and recharge them the capacity gets smaller, recharging while its already 100% is also a wasted cycle. unless you are constantly turning it on to stress test then off and let ot cool down and do the same over and over yes its gonna kill it, but barely anyone does that, turning your pc on and off once a day and use it for 4 hours is still better than having it on 24/7. you sound like a miner trying to scam people by selling her abused hardware
@@rgbgamingfridge Haha, solder and batteries are not the same... Its not chemical inter-reactions, its purely mechanical. Solder is a metal. You know how metal fatigues? Its from loading cycles. Since GPUs don't exactly get bent repeatedly, its thermal contraction and expansion of the solder joints that usually kills them. That's why COMPANIES (don't just take my word as a mechanical engineer, look at what all the big companies do), they test by heating and cooling rapidly to find out how long it will last.
My Titan undergoes about 2 dozen full heat (84c then back down to below 40c) thermal cycles per video I edit. I render a portion, look at it, and render again. This is how jet engines are rated. They used to go by hours, but people doing "island hopping" with them on short runs caused them to undergo a stupid amount of thermal cycles and now they primarily use that number (I'm also an aerospace engineer, so we talked about this kind of thing in our propulsion class)
@@jakegarrett8109 yeah no shit its just an example but the fact that using it 24/7 is worse than turning it on and off sometimes is still true
@@jakegarrett8109Yep, I recently put one of my HD7970s in the oven to get it back working after the RMA failed to fix it. I had nothing to lose but I have Crossfire back and can game again properly...though on nearly 7 year old cards now. I'll have to keep a look out for a good used mining card since the RTX series isn't compelling me, especially with word of failures on some of them.
I ve just bought the Strix version of the RX570(new,not SH) that was priced like the 1050 ti(both are 200$ dollars in my country though) and you came out with this video.
Get a quadro k4000 they are very cheap in the uk!!!
Dan Murray he has lots of hours this is just a video made out of interest
@@coreylong2353 It was a suggestion not an order. I thought it would be interesting to check the performance of a 1k card that now costs 100
a Geforce brother of this card is GTX 660 btw. the chip is GK106
@@@Radovanslav - if its equivalent to a gtx 660 then $100 is way expensive...ps I just looked and benchmark site has the quadro performing closer to a 650 or 650ti. It's probably clocked a lot lower than the gaming version
Recently I purchased (before watching the review) a custom mining RX 580 4GB (2304SP) from China similar from Hardware Unboxed reviewed for just 98 dollars with free shipping. I experienced a slight issue with the HDMI port which is common for these cards and a slight tap/wobble of the jack or moving the cable a little bit may interrupt the signal and flashes gray static randomly. Fortunately after I kept it snug, this issue was gone.
I'm using the card for over a month now and it runs good enough with the R3 2200G playing Far Cry 5 Ultra 1080p around 55-75FPS AVG. I even tried overclocking the stock clocks from 1340MHz @ 1150mV to 1440MHz @1175mV which was stable while testing a loop in Unigine Heaven for about 40 minutes and stayed under 75C fans maxed @90%.
Overall it was an FAIR experience but still it was a risky thing since shipping back the item will cost extra if the card was total a dud.
Currently bidding on a gtx 660 ti for 20 usd with 13.45 shipping wish me luck
You lost
Bought my MSI RX 570 ARMOR 8gb OC edition for 169 Euro's, an upgrade from my old MSI R7950 twin frozr 3gb oc edition haha. I wanted the 4gb version, but took the 8gb one. There was only a 5 Euro different . Super happy with the upgrade.
Cool that you got it for cheap! Nice combo with my Ryzen 5 1600.
Now that's odd my Sapphire Pulse RX 580 8GB Runs AC Odyssey at 60Fps or more on High Settings and the Temps Hit 60c-65c Max the average is 55c... Granted the RX 570 is a Tier Below it should at least run Ac Odyssey at 60Fps on Medium...
Oooh I just had a thought did you install the Radeon Settings? With the Driver? If you did and your Running MSI Afterburner... Then they are Fighting for Settings and Global Tab usually is Locked at 60Fps Default it will Hamper most Benchmarks... I Only installed the Drivers and use Msi Afterburner for Tweaks... Check your Settings Dude if you did install that Wattman Crap it might be fighting... Course someone is probably going to tell me I am talking nonsense, but running two software's that do the same thing can lead to issues.
Yeah he did, he is recording with relive
@@JonaFolgt Well that explains it... He will have took look into his settings and Remove the Frame Lock if its active... That should give back frames, though it will still fight with Msi Afterburner... Wattman kept screwing with my settings... So then I just did a Fresh Driver without the Radeon Settings and Frames are Swank and Under my full control... Believe me I've spent hours tweaking to get the best Graphics to Performance and Temps in Odyssey and Frankly I am in Love with the Ship Combat!
Isn't it a cpu issue in the first place?
@@elirantuil5003 No it's the GPU just some settings in the Bundled Radeon Software that's why I don't use it just use the Drivers and Msi Afterburner. The Radeon Settings Program and Customer Telemetry Shit Muzzles the Card. The CPU he's using is plenty powerful.
1. Shut off v-sync
2. raise or remove fps cap
I picked up a 4gb RX580 OC for $100 last weekend. Killer deal, less than half retail. Seems to work fine.
Best like to dislike ratio I've ever seen. 302 likes to 1 dislike.
joe nodden I’ve seen 4k likes to 0 dislikes
@Jay Arre Lol I joined RUclips on May 28, 2013. I can guarantee you joined way after considering the fact that you have no videos, no subscribers, and the default channel layout.
@@joenodden same I didn't have a account until 2013 but I joined when I kid like back in 2011 I have like 7 accounts and 2 of them got deleted by Google
just want to thank you for your vids and help . i managed to bag a dell optiplex 9020 core i5 1 tb hd and 8gig ram for £100 . neeed a gpu but very happy with the deal
someone in my country be selling it for 75. I want to try get it for 50.
Go Speech 100 and make them pay you for taking it off their hands and then I'll be impressed.
Just bought a MSI 580 4gig for 130 us and had for a month now with no problems. Liked it so much bought a 2nd from the same guy...
the one who disliked is the seller
i doubt it.. the seller knew it was in good working order and sold it anyway cos he had no use for it. why would he dislike the video?
@@UnacceptableViews oh my god its a joke A JOKE ITS A JOKE SON
@@UnacceptableViews youre the kind or person who would kill the fun at a party
@@UnacceptableViews Doesnt seem your life is in good state. You're the rarity who doesn't get his comment as a joke. Take your toxicity somewhere else, maybe go outside, try getting some friends.
@@gateopssss i just don't have time for stupid unfunny jokes. the only "toxicity" here is kids like you who tell people to go outside and get friends. meanwhile i work 10 hour days to make up for slackers like you who don't feel the need to get a job and earn your keep in society
0:23 gotta love the fact that he actually wrote the price in euros and i think more people on the internet should do that (saying hi from italy)
I bought one of these for £160 from ebuyer with 3 free games
*AC Odyssey being one of them
@@lewystikka150 That's a great deal, I reckon.
@@TheNightquaker Aye, the games are worth about £100 not that I play any bar AC, but for £160 you can't go wrong especially when the card goes for around £190-200 else where
@@lewystikka150 Well, AC Odyssey is quite different from other AC games, so might be a good idea to give it a shot.
@@TheNightquaker Is fairly good so far, only like 14 hrs logged in so far
I bought my GTX 1060 used from Ebay 4 months ago for $160. It was used for mining by the previous owner for a few months, so I benchmarked it extensively with games like Monster Hunter World and Final Fantasy XV everyday and it handles those with no issues. Never breaks over 70C under full load and I've even overclocked it to 2050 boost core and 4404 memory core with no problems. I couldn't be any happier because a card like this would have easily cost me an extra $100.
I hate Armor cards, just marginally better than stock blower cards
HEY I HAVE AN ARMOUR CARD!
Yeah I feel had a armour 1060 and since they didn't thermal pad the chokes mine kinda blew up with 200mhz core bump and nothing to the memory. They told me I'm not eligible for a refund so I'm out 500 USD (happened in February)
@FeelTheThunderHonestly, I wouldn't go past stock clocks for temperature and power reasons. Undervolt, have a more stable stock clock instead of overclocking. It's worth the peace of mind.
Spoken like a true idiot who doesn't know what he is talking about.
Subi_fan nope kept everything stock but bumped the core up by 200mhz and all I heard was a popping sound and no more displays. When I tried to rma it they said You oced it no refund.
I've been using an old 1070 that had a previous life mining for a year so far and it's still running strong with a nice overclock. I paid $220 for it right at the wrong time to buy anything new.
Thanks my friend for the "Euro €" price im from Germany. I Hope the UK will be still in the EU. I wish all much luck and Hope for a Good Ending of the shit episode. Much Love and Power from 🇩🇪 be STRONG 💪😏
Nein. Einfach nein
@@pc-broke8348 wenn das mal so laufen würde, aber ja Regirungen müssen sich auch an Gesetze halten dazu zählt das ein einfaches "Nein" leider nicht so funktioniert; ich denke aber selber auch das es mit einem klaren "Nein" besser ist und auch deutlich günstiger ist. Leider ist dem nun nicht so.
Sí oui oui
At this rate, there will be another EU referendum and we'll stay.
@@dylanharding5720 me agrees
Killing it man i got a Gigabyte G1 480 8GB, PowerColor RX470 4GB and GTX 960 for 500myr, 330myr and 310myr. People are dropping used cards around like crazy. Got my Zotac AMP 1080 for 1500myr a few month back.
7:25 umm....oh f*** go to the next game! go!
I purchased a XFX R9 290x which was probably used for mining around 2016. It still works flawlessly to this day.
As this is around half of MSRP you could just buy two cards for and IF one of them dies you still have one for the price of MSRP and some may still have warranty.
I’m not completely sure but maybe having a constant heat load would mitigate expansion and contraction of heating and cooling of different loads on the GPU loads with gaming. However the constant use and erosion of electrons might be something else to consider with longevity. I’m pretty sure Etherium was more VRAM intensive so I wonder if the VRAM would fail first rather than the GPU core. IDK if any of this is accurate but just some things to consider.
Lemme make a joke because I'm pretty early
Rtx 2080 ti @1500$
MAYU a
I recently bought a used Sapphire Nitro+ RX 570 8gb for my daughter's gaming PC off eBay for $110 including shipping so pretty close to what RandomGaminginHD paid. I chose to buy a card from someone being honest about what it was used for who said it was used in an open air clean environment. The GPU did come in looking brand new, no dust or dirt of any kind, the only issue it had was a slightly bent backplate preventing it seating properly but I fixed that in a couple minutes. Its the first AMD GPU I've ever bought but so far its performing great.
There were plenty of sellers selling 10-20 of the same GPU saying in the description on every one, "Runs great! Only used for light gaming for a few months." I'd rather buy from a guy who is honest about what it was used for rather than someone willing to lie to get a sale.
sold my rx570 to my mum for 1p so ur purchase was a joke
@@janaebert3059 sounds like a good deal
I got a similar deal. $83 for rx 470 8gb on ebay. Works fine. Can't really overclock it without harming stability, but by turning on the fan and upping the power limit slightly (for some reason stock wants to run well under the power rating) I can keep it running at full speed under load.
The catch is it's not an rx 570
Huh?
Recently purchased an EVGA SC2 1080ti ex-mining card before Christmas, don't regret it at all. Runs like an absolute dream even though it had been used for pretty extensive mining. A lot of unnecessary stigma surround mining cards imho
Thank you. You are probably the only person showing actual RX 570 performance. I saw one other video. This is telling. Because what some people are doing is,using a GTX 1060 or 1080 an turning down setting an claiming they're the same card. Others are OC the results an saying See the 1060 is close to the RX 570. They aren't. No where near.
I should add that most mining cards are ulderclocked / under volted for stability as having a card die on your mining rig could wipe out any return from mining.
I just got my rx 570 8GB Gigabyte model today ($85 usd shipped too) from an ex miner "9-10 months in a cooled building" his words. It works great and I'm happy with it (so far) and I knew I could get my money back if shit hit the fan so if anyone sees a mining card be aware but if it seems like a good deal I say go for it.
I got a RX 580 8GB that was really dusty for $160. Now I cleaned it out, replaced the paste with kryonaut and it's running really cool, 1430mhz core with Max temps on any of my games at 65°C
I bought an ex-mining 1070 and I have had no problems and as a bit extra, the previous owner put liquid metal on too!
One of my friend used to mine using 7 RX 570s and he modified the bios for low power consumption and stay on low temperature. He loaded the default bios while selling and also sold at a low price like this one.
Nice, I just recently got a RX 480 for 30€, it would shutdown around 5 minutes of working, a good cleaning and new termal paste and it's working as new. It was also a bit yellow and with a sticky black goo, please don't smoke near your PC, the smell gave it away
I used to mine with 1070s and 1080s from what i could say if you are gonna buy mining cards is find a honest seller.
Ask how old the card and how long it was used, and ask about if they frequently clean it.
I took care of my mining cards even cleaning everything and changing the thermal paste and the thermal pads every 2 months most of them are undervolted to save some changes.
I sold all of them for lower prices of course.
Well, some miners install custom bios in their mining gpus to increase the hash rate. IDK if that has to do something with the actual gaming performance of the card but I'm curious to see if this card has one of those bios and how it will perform against the default AMD bios.
I bought myself an ex mining rig XFX RX 580 8gs Black Edition for 180€, which is a pretty decent price here in Germany because a GTX 1060 6gs did cost about 220€. It looked brand new without dust on it and it performs really good for over a month now. The guy I bought it from said it ran in an industrial rig with industry standard air cooling so the card never ran over 60° and I guess he was very honest about it.
So yeah if you see an AMD card like this from a mining rig make sure you feel good about it and make sure if the condition of the card. :-)
Dont forget that the card has a 3 year warranty from MSI, your card would be warranted from the manufactured date not purchase date as its second hand, just register it online on the MSI site and if it dies in the next couple of years you will be able to RMA it and get a nice replacement. Ive done this with numerous MSI second hand cards.
I bought RX Vega 56 from honest miner. He mined with the card 24/7 straight for 7 months. And the card works totally fine, now issues. Been using it for couple months already.
Just got one of these new as I’m building a new machine; I don’t do any gaming or even video editing (certainly not 4K), it’s mainly for photoshop and illustrator. Aorus x570 Elite Wi-Fi mobo, 32 Gb ram, NVMe drive with a Ryzen 5 3600. I’m on a budget, but I thought it looks like a good combo.
I bought a sapphire pulse rx 580 4gb that had been briefly used for mining right in the middle of the mining craze for £200, it was a shame to pay this much for a used card but considering everywhere else was sold out i had little choice and im happy to say it has performed perfectly for over a year now. Although the seller assured me he only used it to see what mining was like and never ran it for long
And now that ive recently matched it with a cpu that can use it too its full potential performance in game is brilliant
Some miners flash the bios of AMD cards with more aggressive memory timings, which may not be stable in games or other scenarios, so if you can get information from the seller, it'll be great. It's fixable, but you will need to do some work on it.
Hey Random, can you make a video on the intriguing world of aftermarket GPU coolers? I recently bought a used Zotac GTX 1060 6GB Mini ex-mining card, and the cooler on that card is absolutely *horrendous*. It hits 82C after 5 minutes of usage and stays there, leaving absolutely no overclocking headroom. And the fan is annoyingly loud when it ramps up.
The card itself is solid, and runs well, and honestly almost made me cry when I first ran it, because I've been running GPU-less for 4 years now, and haven't played any triple A, graphically demanding games since 2013. The only game I've been playing since last year is Paladins, on my Core i5 6600k's iGPU, because I decided to build my new gaming PC right before the cryptomining craze happened, and right before I was about to buy my first GPU since 2012, prices just skyrocketed, and left me high and dry and suicidal.
So anyway, I've been exploring some solutions to solving this problem and discovered the intriguing world of aftermarket GPU cooling solutions. And one thing I've learned is it's not as popular as it should be, because aftermarket GPU coolers can drastically improve temps, noise and performance, but sadly it seems like this world is pretty much dying. Apart from Arctic there really isn't any other GPU coolers out there. There's the Raijintek Morpheus II, but the fact that they don't supply fans and charge you $70 for their cooler is a no from me. Also while doing some research, I discovered the beastly looking Thermalright shaman that uses a bloody 140mm to cool your GPU, and it looks absolutely monstrous and badass, but it's a 2010 product and I can't seem to find it anywhere for a reasonable price. Which is what I meant when I mentioned the world of GPU coolers slowly dying.
Even Arctic, even though they're the biggest aftermarket GPU cooling solutions, haven't updated their GPU coolers since they've been released. I'm talking about 2010/2011 products sold *to this day* , completely unchanged. I mean I don't really blame them, since their products *still* kick ass, but my god, their GPU coolers look ugly as hell, and I just wished they shipped their GPU coolers with better looking, sleeker fans.
Then there's the even more intriguing solution of just straight up mounting a CPU cooler on your GPU, which I see you've recently been acquainted to. DIY Perk's video on this was pretty entertaining, but still left me with the thought of "this is impractical as shit". So on the topic of mounting CPU coolers on GPUs, could you do another video using a more recent card, and also using a budget low profile 120mm CPU cooler? In my honest opinion I think that'd make a pretty interesting video, and could help letting people know about this technique.
If you've read this far, I want to thank you and really hope you take this into consideration. I think there's some really cool, wild and mysterious GPU coolers out there to discover if you dig hard enough. Which is what I've always enjoyed about your channel. You discovering some rare, wild hardware on the internet and testing them.
I myself will be buying the Arc Accelero Mono PLUS soon to mount on my GTX 1060 mini, (plus a 120mm fan to mount on the Mono PLUS and get rid of that god awful looking stock cooler) since I've recently learned that a lot of people have resorted to doing that for their exact same card, and found the Zotac 1060 6gb mini to actually be an amazing overclocker and dead silent to boot. I can't wait to finally silence my loud as hell card and extract some more performance to prepare for Metro Exodus when it finally comes out.
From what I've seen in this and a couple other vids, the only real issue with retired mining cards seems to be slight higher thermals. I imagine new paste would probably help most "dying" mining cards, since thermal throttling causes a lot of slow down.
I have a very similar setup: Ryzen 5 1600, 14CU RX 560 4 GB, and 8 GB of RAM.
The RX 570 is a very great card. In terms of performance, it fits nicely between the GTX 1050 Ti and GTX 1060.
The biggest takeaways are:
• If you’re buying a mining GPU, see if it was overclocked and what the speeds were if so. Mileage varies; my RX 560 is overclocked to 1325/1725 and sometimes makes DirectX crash when thermals exceed 75°C.
Yours doesn’t exceed 70° under load which is good, though I wouldn’t overclock.
• Radeon GPUs are more commonly used as mining GPUs rather than gaming, since they lack support for NVidia tech such as PhysX. A 3 GB GTX 1060 can beat an 8 GB RX 580 handily in some titles, though it has less VRAM.
• The Radeon RX series is a great series of cards. Though, it won’t compare to a GTX 1070 or better.
Lack of Nvidia features? Sure but they have their own. They have a hardware recording codec, which is pretty good. And seriously, who even uses physX.
I bought my MSI Armor OC RX 580 8GB a while ago. It was also an ex mining card, but the guy I bought it from was a friend of a friend who said that he will gladly give me my money back if I have any problems. SO I decided to do it, as graphics cards (and PC hardware in general) is extremely expensive here in South Africa. The card runs absolutely fine. I replaced the thermal paste when I got it, and that's pretty much it. One thing I will say though, the Armor edition is an utterly horrendous cooler for an RX 580; it's loud and it runs quite hot. A friend's Strix RX 580 runs 20 degrees cooler on with higher overclock at much lower fan speeds. But for the price I paid, I'm a happy gamer.
Easy Workaround for that "problem".
AMD gives to much voltage on their Cards. Usually 1.15V or higher for 1300MHz and higher.
But the RX570/580 runs perfect on 1-1,05V and 1300-1360MHz.
Look up how to undervolt Polaris in Wattman here on RUclips.
how much did you pay for it? am also from SA
I've found that a lot of the second hand graphics cards that were used for mining were generally well looked after (and are often mined in air conditioned rooms as well) so there shouldn't be much of an issue. Can get quite a lot of GPU for not much money. Would be ideal to get one that still has a balance of the 3 year warranty just as a precaution.
Heck. I got a steal on an ex miner Gigabyte RX-580, it had been well looked after going by how clean it was when I got it, plus, it overclocks like a total boss. I managed to get 1480 / 2133 out of it and I'm willing to bet there's still headroom on the VRAM to take it higher since I only did a conservative OC on it.
Yea, at least he is honest.
In my country you can see everyone writing - "Like new", "Almost not used", "Not pushed", "Used for gaming" and in the end there is always - 7 pcs., 8 pcs., etc.
And they are trying to sell them for close the market price.
My friend just bought a 470 with still a 1.5 yr warranty for €110. In hungary this is a good value for it. A new 570 is around €190. The guy uses in a mining rig but the is in excellent shape.
Honestly, this card was my daily for about a year. Before that, the 470 8G. This thing is an absolute beast and can run anything you throw at it. The one thing that isnt mentioned here is its overclocking ability. Easily hit 2000MHz on memory, and 1400MHz on the core. Add about 15-20 FPS to a decent chunk of those games, and drop the stutter from the Crew 2 when you overclock this beast!
Oh you got lucky too? I found an rx580 8gb for $100with the same design and I’ve never been happier with it
i know some miners and they said that the only component that is getting stressed is the fans since they run it at 80% power
3 weeks ago i bought a rx570 4gb, it was an Asus Expedition model, seller had good rating and the description didn't mention that it was used in a mining rig. It fit my budget so i bought it. When it came it was dust free with a copule of scratches on the shroud but a suspicious piece of tape was placed on the back with "04" written on it, i started suspecting that it was a mining card but it was working really good even with 1300mhz OC. But after 2 weeks during a game of R6 Siege my PC crashed (it happened from time to time even with previous GPU), when i restarted my PC i never got a signal to my monitor from this GPU again, tried everything and still no positive result. So, I returned the card and now i'm waiting for a response from the seller. Ideally i'd like to get my money back to buy a 570 brand new. Mining cards are a gamble when it comes to longevity, You were clearly the luckier one this time, congrats!
Very solid review, I'm looking for either pair of RX 560, ot RX 570 cards(work, and home PC) with 4GB of RAM as 8GB for the games I play I feel is just overkill, and with less overhead I don't think you need as powerful of hardware if you are using an OS like Xubuntu.