How You Can Start Stretching Your Own Screens RIGHT NOW!
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Doing the prints side by side on the same shirt was a genius way to show this. Great video. Trying these screens out is definitely on my wish list.
I needed to see it for myself so I figured that was probably the easiest way, and a good way to conserve test shirts 🙌🏻
To tape your panel frames, I recommend the gorilla HD tape it will hold up to chemicals, equipment, and printing. It also cost $$6-$7 a roll. We often get suckered into buying screen tapes from our distributors we trust, as a former salesmen I can tell you some are fine depending upon what frame your stretching. But the gorilla tape will work great with these frames.
Great vid as usual - I just ordered these frames last week for testing - I feel better about the purchase already - way to think out of the box with splitting the print in half awesome idea - and much credit to the blooper reel at the end - keep flowing..!!
Thanks, I thought that would be a fun idea to show the difference. I needed to see it for myself too
How have the ECO screens held up for 5 months of use now?
🏍 I saw these frames in another video a couple weeks ago and thought they showed promise. After seeing your video I think I’m going to invest in the starter set. Thanks again Lee. Always great content 🤙🏽
Thanks dude, they're definitely worth a shot in my opinion. I don't even want to look at my old static frames now
Thanks for very clear guide and detail on this screen stretching tool.
Hi I came across your videos and it is truly amazing and easy to understand I have always been curious and interested in printing my own stuff and your videos gave me a sense of easy on how easy it is , I understand there is a learning curve but you made it a lot more easier to understand
keep up the great work and videos
"Ahh that is tight as shit!" "OMG that is tight as shit"
Thats what he said.
It's about time someone took that bait
Love the videos been watching you for about a year and I've had my screen printing machine for around the same time, watching u makes me so anxious to get it going... but I definitely love your work everything is so clean and crisp!
Thanks a lot. It's not an easy thing to take on but it's totally worth it 🤘🏻
Love the content! You been a HUGE HELP & inspiration brother 💪🏽🙏🏽 Is it possible to make a video about your experiences with different mesh screen counts and which ones are good for different designs? ie: Simple bold color designs vs very intricate detailed designs? Thanks man keep up the DOPE CONTENT‼️
Thanks a lot. A video on the different mesh counts is something I plan to make eventually
I used the early version of these years ago. I think they were called panel frames back then. They were okay for what they were but I switched to Shur-Loc EZ frames a while ago and the difference in quality in unreal. Way more expensive but the tension and mesh selection is awesome.
I definitely plan to check those ones out before I commit to ditching my static's, I've heard a lot of good things
Jake Damis More expensive up front but they pay for themselves in only a couple panels! Especially if you’re not local to a great stretcher.
The old Panel frames do not come close to comparing with the Eco frames. Old 12-16N They are not even comparable. The HD Eco frame is even better.
Hey Lee, I know this has been sitting a while, but feel free to email me ron@shurloc.com to get a demo pack of E-Z Frames with Endurance Panels headed your way.
Heard about Shadetree on your "Vlog 38 special". Cool ass dude & the shirts came out dope fam. I'll be grabbing those screens when I get on! 💯💯💯
Thanks for sharing, new tools are helpful 🤘
Sick video! Keep us updated on the frames. I’ve been eyeing those for a while now.
So far I'm really liking them!
Shayway They’re great. Sooner you change over the sooner your quality goes up and costs go down.
@@CoryFloodwayPrintCo See what you started =P
Daniel Mullins haha they’ve been around for years! Thank the suppliers for getting a wider variety of mesh haha that’s all that was holding me back before. These things pay for themselves 💰
@@CoryFloodwayPrintCo Yeah I know but, you posted the first detailed video on it. These suppliers need to start sponsoring people like you and Lee. You guys are selling this shit for them. If it wasn't for both of your videos I wouldn't have just dropped $900 on those screens.
ANYWHO...YOU ARE ONE OF MY ROLE MODELS BEACAUSE OF YOUR WORK ETHIC AND NUTTYNESS. WISH YOU THE VERYBEST BROTHER.
Cool video man I saw you on Ryonet
video interview good job.👍🏾👊🏾
Thanks a lot man
The EZ-frames have a plastic protector for the mesh. You may not need the top/bottom protectors for your set up (and water does get behind them, but are easy to pull off + water may in the frame if I remember righty) I don't know the weight of the frames you were testing, but... I'd say the EZ-frames are about 3x times the weight of a standard alu box frame. Have fun and you get an awesome print from them.
These ones are about double the weight I'd say, so they aren't too bad. I'm gonna be giving them a much longer shakedown this week to see if there's anything else I can learn
Dude your in my head the last few videos have been on point with what I was studying ha I was just learning screen stretching and stuff yesterday
These things take all the work out of that for you haha, they're awesome
@@leestuart38 awesomeness do you have any tips or favs on ink about to start shopping for the press and everything
Better tape for sure or those badboys are gunna pop like crazy! And just a thought here it’s not the mesh that holds the higher tension it’s the stronger frames. Statics can go to higher tensions than what people sell them at but I’m thinking stretchers are scared to ship them. Never seen a static above 21n. Game changer for sure and they’re CHEAPER per panel! Love it.
Really depends on the wall thickness of the tubing. A lot of the cheaper stuff is very thin wall and would probably bow under that kind of tension, but I have a few frames from F&H that are beefy as hell and would definitely hold. But these things are definitely a far better option for us all around and the cost savings will add up quickly I'm sure.
Lee Stuart Yeah man the math works out to them being cheaper in like two panels. I went over that in my video about them, I’m super stoked on these! If you didn’t see it: ruclips.net/video/xMqsw-TCRaE/видео.html
@@leestuart38 Can confirm bowing at higher tensions. I stretched Saati 158 Hi-Tex in a Newman Roller to 40N/cm and glued it to a static aluminum. Right after cutting it out of the Newman, the tension dropped to 34N/cm and has bowing on all four sides of the static. I just tagged you in the post I made in the Rogue Printers group about it a couple days ago.
Now to see if the pros of higher tension outweigh the cons of bowed aluminum frames.
Tim McElheny You may see some problems from the bowing, especially if the mesh isn’t straight within your image area. Like Lee said there are some beefier static frames though. The mesh can always hold higher tension, it’s not specific to thin thread if anything they hold lower tensions and perform better at lower tensions than thicker threads. But they need a solid frame for those higher tensions and that, plus shipping problems is a huge reason you won’t see glued statics going to far above 21n.
@@CoryFloodwayPrintCo Stretching and glueing the frames was a lot of work anyway. The mesh looked pretttttty straight in the image area, but I am 100% eyeballing it. It was fun dialing in the process, but I'm going to order my next batch of screens pre-stretched.
This was more of an experiment to see if screens with tension in the newton range specified by the manufacturer printed better than the pre-stretched, lower newton, screens. I used the Saati mesh because I was reading that they have great mesh. Before I stretched my own, I was using GoldUP pre-stretched screens. The screens I stretched with the Saati mesh print better than the GoldUp screens. The ink clears easier and it seems to lay down a more even layer across the entire image.
I have a DIY set-up so for me, in my situation, the screens I've stretched are working better for me at the moment. I'm going to order some pre-stretched screens next time though. I'm going to do some research and see who's claiming they got the best.
Hey lee, I’m trying to start my own business, but was wondering whether I should start with the emulsion process, or just save up and get a vinyl cutter to skip the entire emulsion process? Thanks so much!
Print the right way. Get an exposure and unit, emulsion, and learn how to use it.
@@leestuart38 that's the correct way to start
What brand of shirts do you use? Love the videos man keep it up! You are killin it
The only thing i see as a neg. Is you can't retension. Im using newmans. On lower mesn 110 - 125 (40 newtons) 255 mesh (30 newtons. As long as you work harden them..... they are tough 2 beat. Great review though. Thanks for all of your hard work. You Rock 4 dayz!!
@Dtag1971 H to retension the Click Frames couldnt you just do an additional fold or 2 at the plastic tip before tucking it in the groove? I do not have them yet but seems instead of 1 fold as Lee mentioned you could do additional folds as the screens age. ?!?!?!?!
Holy shit. That looks like a worth while investment for sure. 🤙🏼
Definitely a cool system
Those frames are it, I use the click frames from dynamic...same frames. Find them easier to deal with than nortec where you have to have there support jackass refer you to a local dealer. Keep up the great videos man
They're super good so far, really liking them
How often do you have to reset the tension on the frames? Really interested in doing this. Have a bunch of frames sitting around with tears bc sending them back to be rescreened is more expensive than buying new frames. Thanks
How about close up to what you did
You are still our hero!!!
Great review. Its funny dude ive had 12 of these in my cart for a few days now debating on whether to pull the trigger. and it just seams like the universe is telling me to buy them. =D
If these things really do require less pressure they may be a game changer for my small manual shop. My tennis right elbow will love me. Look forward to your updates
Pull the trigger! It's crazy how much less pressure it takes to clear that thin thread mesh. Between that and the ez squeegee it's like I don't even have to try anymore
Lee Stuart lol. Just bought 12 with cryocoat which is on sale and got a pack of films for free. Happy Sunday homie.
Very good sir i like your idea
You see you only need a hand full of frames since to can save the image on the mesh take it off put it away and put a fresh mesh back in it works for me I have 7 frames and several repeat processes meshes and extra meshes, also if you find out u don't need that job print any more just pop it back on a screen and reclaim it thanks
This is not right and not how these were designed to be used, as much as people like to believe it. For a single color design you might be able to get away with it, but that design is still not going to go back on that frame 100% straight and true, anything multicolor is completely out of the question. Mesh also isn't made to be continuously stretched over and over, so it will lose tension and break a lot faster and you're just spending more money than buying more frames in the first place.
Awesome video - thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching 🤘🏻
Lee!! Sick Video dude, I'm definitely picking up a starter kit of these for my print shop. What song is that in the video near the end?! soooo good.
Thanks! My music stays secret 🤫
Any recommendations on how to take them off? One area is pretty stuck. 😁
Great video man.
Hey Lee, do you still feel the same about these screens a year later? Worth the cost in your opinion?
They're ok, I have mixed feelings about then now. It's really depends on your needs. For me, I've gone back to static screens for the most part. I only bring these out when printing hoodies because I have them loaded with thin thread mesh, which makes printing hoodies a lot easier.
@@leestuart38 Thank you for your reply! Saved me from a lot of trouble. Those things are expensive! By the way, bro what are you doing printing stuff... your film making skills are way too good!
Are you still loving these? Just checking before I place my order...
Honestly, no haha. I haven't used them in quite a while. I still like the same aspects I mentioned, but I should have reclaimed one in the video. That part is pure ass
hello where can i order that mesh trecher
Bill Nye the screenprinting SnapBack guy😎
😂😂😂 yes!
Hi, can you tell me which T-shirts do you use?
HAHA, when you try to do some cool shot ---- Oh sh!!T insert comment hit something.. and the eeyore attitude after it comes around is awesome.. love the bloopers and as always great info and review of how you like it, how you will utilize it and ultimately a true honest opinion of it. keep it up cheers.
The bloopers are slowly becoming a favorite it seems haha
...but what about the 6 non Eco Screen Frames that I've busted before this invention. How will I replace the mesh on those?
Send them to a place that re-meshes screens like I mentioned
I know its an older video but did you ever do a comparison on the sure loc frames?
No I've never tried the shur-loc frames. I've gone back to static frames entirely
Also bro you leave a job or image on the mesh and take it off and on as you need it.
cool video screens look good
BRO! YOUR FOREHEAD IS ALMOST AS BIG AS MINE!
FUCK NVM BRO I JUST REALIZED YOUR HEAD IS SHAVED 👽
My biggest issue with these is they are kind of a pain to order. What is the cost of them would you say?
The cost is listed in the link in the video description. Very easy to order
@leestuart38 my bad. I was on the nortech site. We don't order from ryonet so I never look there. Thank you!
Thanks for sharing. So, a lot less screen reclaiming for you?, sounds like a pretty good system to avoid the reclaiming process which, to me at least, it is the worst part of my screen printing process.
No you should still reclaim as normal, this is just to replace mesh easily or have multiple mesh options with minimal frames
3:48 OUCH! ...this is not an episode to listen with headphones.
8:14 Damn! my heart stoped for 23 seconds.
13:38 yeah. not the episode to hear on headphones for sure.
Hello sir im always watching ur videos, would u mind to tel me where can i order the stretcher and frame. Thanks and God bless man.
Ryonet is where to go
What kind of air compressor do you have? Looking to get one... Just go the Eco Frames and need to get out the excess water
I just have a super small dewalt compressor, you don't need anything big or expensive in this case
What is your website domain? I've been wondering which one I should use
My business sites are both on the Shopify platform
Thank you someone who helps lol keep it up with the videos I love them
Are you able to use this kit on regular static screen mesh on aluminum screens as well or you need the ones that comes with the kit only?
The kit mesh only
🤠 has work to do!
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Hey,
How are these holding up? I'm turning over screens quite a lot and wonder if i can burn them, print them and store them and save on emulsion
Thanks
You can not remove the mesh and store it with an image on there if that's what you're asking. But otherwise they're great screens, haven't had any issues yet
@@leestuart38 Thanks. I asked because theres an old video circulating on youtube saying that you can store the screens with the images on them already for reuse. I was curious if you had tried it.
Definitely would be great those of us who print and constantly turning over screens.
Are you putting emulsion on the bottom side of the mesh, top, or both sides?
Always both
I got theses a few weeks ago and ALL of my white meshes blew out while ALL of my yellow stretched fine. Have you run into any issues with the different meshes? Any tips?
Buy the satti from ryonet are whoever ( italian mesh). Ive found the Chinese mesh to be junk. 5 out of 10 of the Chinese mesh tore for me. None of the Italian mesh
If they popped during stretching, you might not have been doing it right. You stretch the long sides first and then the ends, also use a slow fluid motion while stretching them into place. If it was after the stretching process, then there's a good chance the exposed mesh on the back got damaged like I did.
What type of mesh? Weird that they all did it. But definitely check for debris anywhere the mesh touches before putting tension on it. Good luck 👍🏼
got a bunch of these for my shop, and they pop ALL the time.... tape no tape doesnt matter, they have sharp edges on every corner .... id suggest just buying static frames w thin thread like shirt kong does, less tension yes, but opacity is still there and you can smooth out the print with a AI roller .
I haven't had any pop since that first one, but it's something I plan on keeping an eye on for a bit
bro what kind of finish did u paint your walls ....?
Matte black
Do you absolutely need these panels or can I cut my own mesh? they are not cheap :(
You need the panels
Where are you based out of ? I think my buddy and I might be interested in the screens
Canada
What white are you using Lee?
Rutland streetfighter is still my main white. I have a few others to try though
Damn the mesh panels are expensive af
Do u have a training course
I do not, but I plan on making some stuff in the future
@@leestuart38 kk
gorilla duct tape would hold better and it's cheaper.
GREAT
nice
why have an audience filter to screen out those who aren't into cursing? you have a good personality. words mean things. 'bye.
How about respecting people just being themselves, instead of trying to bend them into something that makes you more comfortable? Beat it....fucker
The big money question is.... Can you take the mess off with the design, store it, use it later? Only 4 frames, 100 meshes with a lot of designs ready to go. What do you think about that? Hmm?
I really don't think so. They probably wouldn't stretch back onto the frame without slightly warping the image somehow
Looks like you can... Not 100% sure these are the same, looks the same to me ruclips.net/video/4vG7plBl-JE/видео.html
"38 fucking newtons"! 😂
😂😂😂
Why TF are they 299.95 US and if you swap over to green galaxie canada they want a BS 635$!!!!! 230$ more in price even with the exchange rate figured in. Yeah no thanks. Good to have sponsors I guess. Great shit as always though bro.
$300?!?
For 6 frames, the tool and the panels. 2 of those things last forever, then you're only paying $12 to replace mesh when needed, and nowhere near the shipping cost of a complete frame. It's a huge money saver in the long run if you invest
how much for your old screens? lol
Haha it'll be a while before I convert fully
I can’t watch any more of your videos... you make me spend money I can’t spend yet lol.
I do that when I'm making them 🤷🏻♂️
Sell me your frames lmao
Use Gorilla Duct tape ...
You got a BIG HEAD, DAMN!!!
To hold this big ass brain 🧠