Bok, Sanda! Muchas gracias! Un vídeo muy interesante. Yugoslavia fue un régimen socialista atípico por la ruptura con la URSS de Stalin en 1948. Esto le permitió a Tito jugar un papel de puente entre el bloque occidental capitalista liderado por USA y el soviético del pacto de Varsovia (especialmente tras la reanudación de las relaciones diplomáticas con Moscú con Khrusov) y también en la esfera internacional liderando el bloque de los países no alineados. El socialismo yugoslavo, creo que su gran ideólogo fue Kardelj, fue también original y diferente del soviético. (Paro ya porque me podría pasar horas escribiendo sobre historia...). Esto que explico es teoría que puede sacarse de cualquier manual de historia pero el testimonio de tu mamá es muy interesante porque habla de sus vivencias y da su visión personal de la vida en Yugoslavia y en la actual Croacia. Muchas gracias por este interesantísimo video y saludos a ti y a tu mami!
Jaume muchas gracias por tu excelente y educativo comentario! Tus comentarios son siempre muy bienvenidos en mi canal y, por mí, no tienes que parar de hablar sobre la historia 😊 Mas bien, me alegra saber que el video te pareció interesante. Esto es una parte de las vivencias de mi madre que pasó su infancia en los años 60 y adolescencia en los años 70. Por supuesto la vida durante los 45 años de Yugoslavia cambio mucho con cada década, así como la situación política y la modernización. ¡Te mandamos saludos! Puno pozdrava iz Hrvatske!
" Bok, Sanda! Puno vam hvala! Vrlo zanimljiv video. Jugoslavija je bila netipičan socijalistički režim zbog raskida Staljina sa SSSR-om 1948. To je omogućilo Titu da igra glavnu ulogu između kapitalističkog zapadnog bloka predvođenog SAD-om i Sovjetskim Varšavskim paktom (posebno nakon ponovnog uspostavljanja odnosa diplomate s Moskvom s Hrususom) a također i u međunarodnoj sferi koja vodi blok nesvrstanih zemalja. Jugoslavenski socijalizam, mislim da je njegov veliki ideolog Kardelj, također je bio originalan i drugačiji od sovjetskog. (Prestajem jer bih mogao satima pisati o povijesti ...). Ono što objašnjavam je teorija koja se može preuzeti iz bilo kojeg priručnika o povijesti, ali svjedočanstvo vaše majke vrlo je zanimljivo jer govori o svojim iskustvima i daje svoje osobno viđenje života u Jugoslaviji i današnjoj Hrvatskoj. Hvala vam puno na ovom zanimljivom videu i pozdravima vama i vašoj mami! " Google transl.
El socialismo de Yugoslavia se llamaba "socialismo autogestionario", el cual proponía que los medios de producción pertenecían a los trabajadores, y no al Estado, como en los regímenes marxistas como la URSS o China. Es como el mutualismo de Produdhon más que marxismo-comunismo. In Yugoslavia, socialism was called "self-management", which basically gave the means of production to the workers instead of the State, unlike other Marxist-communist States like China or the USSR. It ressembles more Proudhon's mutualism more than Marxism-Communism.
I encourage everyone to read "NATO In The Balkans: Voices Of Opposition" by Ramsey Clark, Sara Flounders and others (1998), to better understand the situation in Ukraine and be able to anticipate future events.
I visited Yugoslavia in the early 1980's the people were so friendly , and seemed happy. the country was so beautiful . Before I went I had expected to see a poor nation with oppression. It really amazed me how modern and beautiful it was in that time.
I encourage everyone to read "NATO In The Balkans: Voices Of Opposition" by Ramsey Clark, Sara Flounders and others (1998), to better understand the situation in Ukraine and be able to anticipate future events.
My family had escaped during the war, everything was just as your mom had said. Rich or Poor didn't matter we were all in the same boat together, I'm Yugoslavian stil at heart. whether you be Serbian, Croatian or anything else you all are my brothers and sisters
The DDR and its people were very nice to Vietnamese students. No crime. Alles ist da. Beautiful. I did not have the chance to visit Yugoslavia but understand that it was more developed than the GDR.
Great video Sanda! Yugoslavia was a great place, and had a really great potential. Your mom mentioned free housing, and it worked because part of the salary went into a common housing, which the company used for the purchase of apartments, which were later allocated the employees. That worked until the '90's, my dad got his apartment in 1987. There was another benefit that the employees of the Yugoslav companies had - paid vacation. Almost all Yugoslav companies owned resorts on the coast and in the mountains, so holidays were extremely cheap for every Yugoslavian family. Yugoslavian tourism was well developed, and according to World Tourism Organization, in 1989 Yugoslavia was among the 10 most developed countries in the world. Tourism is considered an invisible export, and Yugoslavia has been generating a large income from tourism. We also had strong domestic production, and almost everything was produced, and there was no need to import. Yugoslav socialism was at the level of the Scandinavian social protection system, which is considered the best in the world. The Yugoslav model was called self-management, there were so-called workers' councils, on which all important decisions were made, and workers elected directors, they decided on investments, etc... It was a different time, people loved their country and had a strong sense of solidarity. Almost the entire country was built (roads, railways, bridges, buildings) through the so-called youth workers' actions - young people throughout Yugoslavia VOLUNTARILY went around the country and participated in the reconstruction and development. There was a low crime rate due to the secret police sending criminals abroad. They would mostly become secret service associates, received passports and official IDs, and in exchange for freedom, they did dirty work for the Yugoslav service and dealt with the so-called "internal enemies of the state." Unfortunately, it all backfired, because all of these criminals have become the dogs of war and leaders of paramilitary formations in the '90s. If you're interested in how and why the tragedy occurred in Yugoslavia, I suggest you check out some interview with Croatian investigative journalist Domagoj Margetić, who discovered the trail of money and how leaders of Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks enormously enriched themselves while people were killed in a senseless war . He claims he has evidence that a minimum of $ 150 billion has been looted from the former Yugoslavia. Sorry for the lengthy comment, but this is a very extensive topic. God bless your mom and you and greetings for beautiful Rijeka from Belgrade!
Good write up man but alot of those that worked for the secret service were honest good men too. Example of someone well known being franko simatovic. From the personal stories i heard he was a good man but you gotta put the blame on someone i guess.... Of course there were some mental cases that were specifically chosen around the time of the country breaking up. Majority of those maniacs are still running free today. But Jebiga man shit happens it was a great country i hope one day everyone in that area agrees to form something like that again. Too much corruption to make that possible though these days. :^/
Yugoslavia seemed lovely.. the only default I've heard about so far is its authoritarianism, and Tito's crimes (illegal elections) but other than that, he seemed like a good leader, and Yugoslavia like a wonderful market socialist country.. if only it didn't break up :(
Yo soy de los que piensa que los balcánicos y el mundo entero, perdieron mucho con la desintegración de la Republica Federal Socialista de Yugoslavia... Un hecho que deberia aun hoy merecer mejores investigaciones, donde la rigurosidad este por encima de los intereses nacionalistas sectarios, para entender realmente mucho mejor la historia contemporanea, y los mismos intereses que suelen estar detras de ella.... Saludos desde Caracas, Venezuela.
@@philippe5947 TITO have died penniless hi was having couple of children he left nothing to them not a single dolar absolutely nothing , they were having nothing when he was alive, they were having some ordinary jobs and they were providing for them self and they were living in apartments like the others ordinary citizens, and he was the president for 40 years, he was literally working 12 hours a day every day, and he was a human being he made some mistakes, I really want now to have president like him for life than to watch this selfish and greedy Hippocrates to day destroying the ordinary People.
@@stefanfreestylezThere were good and bad people in everything of course. But the leaders of the SRs in the 90s were war profiteers, there is no doubt in that. The only thing that surprised me is this huge number of 150 billion dollars. That's huge. Even for war profiteers.
Well Sara, that's your perspective. It all depends on who you ask, for my grandparents and my father it was not so amazing . My Dida fled Yugoslavia on a boat to Italy at the time after spending 3 years in prison for selling regulated goods. It was the post war and there was a whole black market situation. He then brought the family to Italy and went scouting in South America where they all finally settled. There were 2 words that were big no-nos on his table: Tito and Comunism. The other word he did not like much was Yugoslavia since he always identified as a Croat first and Dalmatian second. The bright side to this story is that it would have been a fairytale for him, I would not be writing this comment now.
@Class is Fundamental I heard similar stories from people from the local Croatian community. I understand the Yugoslavia point of view. I also understand the exploitation by politicians of the latent resentments between nationalities. I am sure that with a bottle of rakija on the table we can talk for hours about this we may not reach an agreement, but I am sure we will have fun trying.
Balkans will perhaps only have lasting peace when the Savior returns. Otherwise it could be argued to be the most war torn region of the entire world. Strong people & good cultures, BUT maybe ancient curses in blood for thousands of years. Macedonia sure is a great example these days for all it's neighbors. In my opinion the total society of Serbia is improving. However it usually takes only one Balkan nation to regress the entire region back to its relative norm. IF all those nations enter the EU then perhaps there could be a hundred years of peace soon as the EU survives the next decade or two.
I heard many great stories about the former Yugoslavia from my parents when we were still the Soviet Union.. I want to visit the former yugoslavian countries cause I know that these 6 nations weren't just ruch in history but also in culture and in places... ♥ 🇷🇺
It was too good to be True. Serbs, bosnians and others were good in yugoslavia, while croatia and Slovenia werent. It also doesnt help that yugoslavia did some sketchy and horrible things to croats. It was kinda good, but you cant compare it to today
@@_Mark41 Slovenia was the richest country. 10 day war only with Serbia. But Bosnia had the most blood and political war. Once your a catholic in Bosnia ur a croat while ur a damn Bosniak. And if ur a muslim THAN ur a bosniak. If ur a muslim in croatia that u are croatian
@Darko Ulmer Kosovo and Vojvodina were Autonomous Regions before Milošević, but he effectively took over power from the leaders of these provinces - Kosovo had a strong desire to become it's own Republic instead of being under control from Belgrade which Milošević did not like - and initiated a coup d'etat in Montenegro which gave meant he had control over 4 out of the 8 votes the council would have.
love and respect from China. Born in 1990s, my generation has no cutural links to Yugoslavia, but people of my parents' or grandparents' age have deep connection culturally with Yugoslavia, because I was told by them that everyone in China in the 1950-1970 period watched Yugoslavian movies, and were amazed at how good the living standard were at Yugoslavia. Although China and USSR were in military alliance during 1950s, the two countries didn't get along well after that and had a few military confrontations. Overall, China didn't want to participate in the Cold War but to develop as an independent nation, and the socialist path adopted by China now is in no way close to USSR. Just to be clear that socialist is not evil, and not all socialist countries are the same. Socialist countries can also prosper and bring the vast majority of people high quality of life and be open-minded.
Although the Yugoslav system wasn't perfect, it was incomparably better than the system in today's banana republics of the former state. There are several reasons for the disintegration of Yugoslavia and the senseless civil war. After the fall of the Berlin Wall, the need for Yugoslavia as a buffer zone between East and West ceased. The then national leaders provoked the war, in order to plunder their own people. An investigative journalist from Croatia gathered evidence that Croats laundered money for Serbs and vice versa, even though they were at war. It is estimated that they robbed at least 150 billion dollars, and the money ended up in secret accounts. This is not a conspiracy theory, he also testified before the European Parliament, but the European Union is not interested in resolving this case, because then we wouldn't be in debt bondage. Great powers also had interests, primarily Germany and the United States. Natural resources and former socialist economic giants are owned by companies from Germany and the United States. The largest NATO base is located in Kosovo, and Kosovo also has huge mineral resources - worth 900 billion, according to US estimates from 1998. Madeleine Albright, NATO General Wesley Clark and the Clinton family have a large share in the ownership of energy companies from Kosovo. German companies own almost the entire Croatian coast. We are today just a source of cheap labor, humiliated and robbed. Unfortunately, a large part of the people don't understand that, and they hate each other, just because they believe in different God, or because they are "evil" Serbs / Croats / Bosniaks...
Comon Tista It was a chaos. The society was out of control. People go crazy . Youngers could judge those who against the revolution. So many schoolers,officers and teachers had bullied by crazy people... Most of them had to suicide. Otherwise the crazy young people would killed them by cruel methods. One of the chairman was judged by the crazy people and be kicked to die....
I would love to have lived or at least emulate the Yugoslavia system. I'd like to have a job and healthcare and education and know my children won't have to struggle with rent, mortgages, unemployment and tuition.
Yeah, I'm sure you'd love the government having complete control of what you do and can say. At one point, you weren't allowed to leave the country or you would be arrested. Look at how many people still escaped. That should tell you everything.
@@rockcommen1106 seems you'd rather have free speach then the guarantee you won't go homeless, unemployed or in massive debt from medical bills or going to college.
So the trade off was, more poverty in exchange of some rich people being able to accumulate capital? Seems like capitalism just made everything worse :/
That was not capitalism that was fault of war annihilating the economy and infrastructure and corrupt politicians ensuring their friends and family profiteer at the expense of everyone else. Even if they introduce socialism again, at this point it will just be those same corrupt politicians with all the money and everyone else sharing in equal nothingness.
@@goatwarrior3570 I mean, sure, but I get their point, the nations that used to form Yugoslavia are now capitalist, and in a very bad situation. Correct me if I'm wrong - which I might very well be - but at the collapse of Yugoslavia market socialism was also replaced by capitalism, no?
@@philippe5947 Yes, we are in a bad economic situation but as I am saying before, that is not the fault of capitalism, it is the fault of corrupt, jingoistic politicians. Also destruction to infrastructure during the wars, in Bosnia and Croatia over reliance on tourism is hindering progress. There is also issue of young skilled workers leaving country for EU for better wages, far too much reliance on public sector, something left over from socialist times, too high deficit, too much black market trading, too much bureaucracy hindering new companies and making unattractive to foreign investment. It cannot be overstated just how much of this poor management is result of political corruption. The economic hardships of Yugoslavia were in place long before the transition to capitalism. Under socialist system unemployment was terrible and debt was huge. SFRJ was borrowing vast amounts from Western nations to keep economy functioning and sending young unemployed overseas, mainly Germany, so they could give illusion of lower unemployment. The final economic collapse in 1990 was what causes the breakup of SFRJ. Also corruption in these times was widespread. They have worker controlled factories but to get a job there you're going to have to be relative of someone on council or bribe someone. This result in terrible productivity as worker can be lazy and still hold job and receive labor bonus depending on if their uncle or something is high up in council. I think horrors of war and current bad economic situation give some older people rose tinted memory of former Jugoslavia. There was much economic hardship in final decades but some people benefit from the security of worker collective firms, even if that security was through corruption. I think they don't want to accept it was all an illusion that would and did eventually collapse into chaos. I hope one day Bosnia, Serbia and Croatia can move forward like other former communist countries of Europe and progress somewhere but it's a long hard road ahead.
@@goatwarrior3570 A bad economic situation because of neoliberalism, it's interesting that you condemn reliance on the public sector yet mourn the loss of infrastructure. Strong infrastructure is the result of correctly allocated state money for public projects that benefit that, the public. I recommend reading about neoliberalism economics, after Yugoslavia split, this economic policy swept the sovereign states and today's bad situation is largely the result of this policy (including worker exodus to other countries due to a lack of local industry). prospect.org/economy/neoliberalism-political-success-economic-failure/
@@user-qg4um9hx8e "A bad economic situation because of neoliberalism" You really don't know a thing about the situation here if you think it's due to neoliberalism. Let me guess, you are American?
It wasn’t Eastern Europe- not culturally, not politically and not geographically. its name literally means southern Slavs! It was also founder of nonaligned movement that fought imperialism and colonialism.
@Horvatska Banovina Of course, there is multiple definitions for South Slavic language Serbo-Croatian is one of them. The language differs in grammar, dialects and ling. script (Latin, Cyrillic). But in the core they are all the same: a South Slavic language that was changed over time from Romans, Austrians, ottomans etc. But you Balkan people really need to stop hating each other because of nationalist beliefs. Greetings from Germany. ✋🏻😊
Unfortunately things changed it used to be a wonderful amazing beautiful place where everyone and everything was wonderful and everyone was happy and life was wonderful l miss it so much . I have fond memories of the Amazing country of old Yugoslavia ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
It was too good to be True. Serbs, bosnians and others were good in yugoslavia, while croatia and Slovenia werent. It also doesnt help that yugoslavia did some sketchy and horrible things to croats. It was kinda good, but you cant compare it to todayđ
Yugoslavia is a pretty positive example of a socialist system that actually worked fairly well. especially given how many people who used to live there often have positive opinions of it. its not a perfect example of course, there were still numerous flaws, but its a good demonstration of its potential.
During Titos time, the majority of Crops and food was farmed by Albanian and bosnian farmers who worked in terrible conditions so that the serbs could eat and party in Belgrade in their nice houses and neighbourhoods, while they lived of the backs of Bosnians and Kosovo Albanians. So Serbia is a selfish country full greedy people, who still think most of the Balkans belongs to them. When Nato rained bombs on them 2000 people died in Belgrade and they still complain about it today, when in Kosovo 12,000 albanians were killed and in Bosnia 50,000 were killed, search the massacre of Srebenica, 8000 Bosnian men were killed in a town in one day. They should be ashamed of themselves. that was life in Yugoslavia My Aunt was giving birth in 1988 and the hospital did not let her give birth in their facilities because she was albanian. That country should be ashamed of themselves
@@user-fk9md2il4d I get your point but you are talking about the declain period of yugoslavia that I agree was horrible, but yugoslavia under tito's rule was great.
@@themaniac2448 He was a lot better than Milosevic and I repeat again, He was great for the Serbians, but still did not fully respect the other ethnic groups. He just tried to hold the balance and keep it all together, but there was a deep hatred brewing within.
Thanks for uploading! I'm all the way from Louisiana, United States .. My great grandmother migrated from Yugoslavia. My grandmother and grandfather told me stories when I I was younger I'm now 30 and been researching the nation and came across your video! Your mom seems so sweet, by the way! Thank you for uploading!
@johnnie anon Communist Yugoslavia was great because of Tito. It's not Yugoslavia that was great and Tito just came along. Tito created communist Yugoslavia and while his rule had issues he made the nation prosper
@johnnie anon Well Tito did suppress nationalism. Did fuck over Stalin. And was able to stay neutral after the revolution. Jugislavia only fell apart after he died.
Exactly! I know so many people who lived in the USSR and East germany say how when they were young they would buy into western propaganda of how infinite options and choice are signs of development and progress but now they reminisce the old times when they didn’t have to worry about rent, monthly grocery expenses, children’s education, healthcare costs and so much. So many belarussians tell me how back then they had everything a person needs and now that they supposedly have so many “choices” they can’t afford any.
The love between you and your mom is so evident. Thank you for this historical context and especially the differentiation between the nuances of socialism, including the different ways it manifests. I know this video is 3 years old but I wish your mom the best of health. My nona is from Pula and I have been learning so much from your videos so I can speak to her in her native language since she has no one else to do that with. Thank you for your generosity in sharing your knowledge!
Thank you so much for this comment! It made my day. My mom is alive and quite well, we managed to get through covid. It is wonderful that you are learning hrvatski to talk to your nona!! Well done! 🥰 All the best & good luck! Sretno!
Having visited Slovenia, Croatia and BiH recently just half a year ago, in my opinion all three countries are quite different today. Slovenia felt more rural, sparsely populated with great nature and fresh air. Zagreb was soooooo densely populated, it was crowded absolutely everywhere and for some reason it was the only place in the world I've been to where almost every single restaurant was fully booked at any time of the day (hope you'll be able to tell me why; I was visiting in early December and I wonder if its due to any festive season). Dubrovnik is really really expensive (over-inflated prices for tourists) though really beautiful (stunning sunrise and sunsets, unlike anywhere I've been to in the world, would love to live there). The Plitvice Lakes is my favourite place in Croatia -- would definitely visit again!! Mostar (BiH) definitely had a unique Muslim "East meets west" feel to it in terms of architecture etc.
Slovenia has 100 in/km2, Croatia and Bosnia both have 75 in/km2. Only 10% of slovenians live in Ljubljana, while almost 25% of croatians live in Zagreb. If you drove from Zagreb to Split with the highway, you would see and empty space all the time.
You mean that you lived in a certain type of paradise, with security, education, home for everyone and work for everyone. And it worked well. The problem was that if you tried to sabotage that system, the system would defend itself trying to preserve those achievements. And you were tired of it. Today life is full of anxiety, fear and you see old people eating from garbage cans. got it. And you were ungrateful muggles who threw everything away. People are strange. Not forgetting that the generation that built this system faced a bloody war with an evil enemy. They won this war and built this paradise-like system. And you, children of that generation threw it all away. Well, the advantage is that today few people can have many houses, car companies .... I see. Socialism was great! Shame on you!
An excess of luxury turns people into spoiled ungrateful brats. The same has happened to every empire throughout history. In order to achieve a long lasting and stable paradisiacal system, life can never be made to be 'too' easy.
@@justaguy6544 you sound american. Socialism is bad because if we don’t have mass struggle and poverty, life is too easy, and it implodes.” What a ridiculous notion.
Youre naive. We were dependent on the west vs east tension wich generated money and political power to us as the unaligned strong nation. Our economy was plummeting during the 80s and our leaders requests for backing our dinar were ignored. Our leader, who was revered and respected had died a decade earlier and left noone as a succesor, old ethnic tensions emerged and "communist yugoslav leaders" capitalized on them instead of defending yugoslavia as they should. The socialism we loved had already died out there were no paid vacations, paid lunches and free apartments left for the newer generations who were not as loyal and grateful as the previous. All it needed for disaster was a spark wich was not prevented or even encouraged by certain world powers who didnt want a strong south slavic state influencing their policies in the post soviet balkans. Yugoslavia wasloved and many people still mourn it but it was doomed a decade before the war broke out.
@@andrejcccc I am not naive, of course there were problems, there were important course corrections that should have been made, both in youguslavia and in the soviet union. Certainly, a big part of the "communist leadership" had already degenerated into a careerist elite that had nothing more to do with the guys who truly looked for the future. What makes me angry, is the waste of the opportunity to advance the way of life on this small and poor planet, and you guys, apparently, came close. I'm cheering for you to find your way back towards a socialism full of abundance and freedom, as dreamed by Marx and Tito.
My grandfather had 3 cars in same time in 70s so u could have ...also u could have own private company but not big..i thing most was like 10 or 15 employers ..it was called samostalna zanatska radnja or samostalna trgovinska radnja ,samostalna ugostiteljska radnja etc..depend off type off business
@moljac Off course private property existed ..all citizens houses were private property ..for government tax on private business i dont know....my grandfather was making metal fences and he lived good but work a lot ..like 10-12 hours a day.....that is reason most still choose to work in socialist companies ..because they worked less and could live normal with salary ..so problem was for him to find workers ..he mostly had 2 or 3
Thank you for the excellent video! Part of my family is from Yugoslavia and this was very informative as someone who is trying to discover how daily life functioned in the country. I appreciate the balanced perspective comparing the positives and negatives of Socialist Yugoslavia vs. Modern Croatia.
Wow, thank you for making this video! My grandparents emigrated from Yugoslavia to Canada in the 1960s, and I've always been curious about what life was like in Yugoslavia after they left. Hopefully I'll have a chance to visit Slovenia and Croatia (my grandparents' home states) once this pandemic is over.
I was fortunate to holiday through Yugoslavia in 1990 - the people are beautiful and so friendly and i got the same friendliness across the whole country. I holidayed again through there recently across the new 6 countries and i got a sense that majority of people everywhere miss Yugoslavia. I love the region and the People. and i love this video i have learnt a lot. god bless the whole region.
I love your channel I am a descendant of Croats My last name is Maric from my grandfather and Topic from my grandmother who lived in Split, I send you best regards, the work you are doing is very good and educational
I believe Yugoslavia will be reunited one day, it was the role model of what a socialist country could be, btw, if Yugoslavia became more democratic, it would be much better. Greeting from China(PRC), Yugoslavia’s old comrade.
@@beyond_modernity8554 unfortuantely Russia failed at establishing socialism. Now it's just authoritarian capitalism. Could've at least been democratic...
Nice to know the once-great country is still appreciated by those who lived there, the younger generations, and many many people from all over the world! I regret the end of the Soviet Union for a bunch of similar reasons, and I say this as a Ukrainian raised in England whose parents FLED the Soviet Union over an incident that got out of control back in 1980. Yet when they worked they were diplomats. Long story.
I found very valuable information in this video and also very interesting since it was explained by these two wonderful girls who were actually living there during two key periods in recent history and that is very important to understand the context of these countries today. Just loved it! 10/10
This is very interesting. In my early childhood, Yugoslavia still existed, the separation process and later war in Croatia were events I saw. Terrible times. It is amazing how these days we can get to hear someone from Yugoslavia despite the time and distance. Great videos. Thanks for sharing.
Hello from England 👋🙂 Very interesting video . I'm 50 & grew up believing Yugoslavia was part of the USSR and admit to never hearing of Croatia or the other five nations until my early twenties. Thank you .
Luca Riboni you westerners call all other statesmen a dictator. Listen: The so called dictator was popular all around the world and when he died, 120 presidents and other statesmen from all around the world came to his funeral, now tell me which of your“democratic“ leaders would accomplish that?
Luca Riboni because he is not a criminal, during his rule, people lived peacefully and hadn‘t to worry about anything look at today‘s serbia, infected by ultra religious orthodox politicians who don‘t care about their people
UK here, I visited Yugoslavia in 1988 on a school trip when I was about 16 or 17 and were staying for a week and I remember we had an amazing time. People were so friendly we went swimming in lakes, went to the theatre and visited some museums etc I also remember the weather being really nice and sunny. We went as part of our History study plus our teachers wife was from Yugoslavia so had links in the country. One of the reasons we went I think was to visit a socialist country that was not part of the Soviet Union or Soviet socialism. As I remember there was not a single thing i personally felt was different to any other western country, in fact we went on trains and busses that were all clean and modern - better than the UK at the time, certainly were I lived anyway. A year later we visited Moscow for a week, now there you knew you were in a one party communist state most definitely. People were still friendly in fact lots of people wanted to speak to us - but there were police and soldiers about and we also visited lots of statues and museums about Lenin and the revolution. I still had a great time, plus it was the first time I ever got really drunk on vodka 😝 ha ha!
I visited Yugoslavia and came back a shot time ago. What a beautiful nation. What a sad story of one people turned apart by crazy nationalism and by criminals along with external intervention (I see no real differences in Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks). I wish you guys would build Yugoslavia again. Maybe Slovenia is better off outside of Yugoslavia but all the other nations are full of poverty, hatred, borders and different currencies. I hope one day the young people in all of these nations will make Yugoslavia great again, with Slovenia or without it. Slovenia wasn't really effected by the war and has been blooming ever since 1991. What you can't say about the other nations of Yugoslavia. Long live Yugoslavia.
Bok Sandra 😀 Gracias por compartir este video de tu mamá y su vida en la antigua Yugoslavia... Este país, deportivamente hablando, fue una potencia deportiva 😀, sobretodo en baloncesto y fútbol, la otra vez comentaba con un amigo si no se hubieran separado, mi respuesta fue, creo que ya hubiesen ganado varios mundiales 😀 Gracias y saludos para ti y tu mamá 👍
When we are questioned what our nationality is, I say Yugoslav, even if all my grandparents were ethnicaly clear Serbs. USA destroyed our freedom, supporting pro fascistic organisations and politics. I really low Tito, but he had only 1 fault, what is deviding the Banate of Serbia into a non existent nationalities like Bosniaks, Montenegrins, and Macedonians, who were always considered as a Serbs, if he didnt do that SRY or Yugoslavia(Serbia) would win Yugoslav wars and we would all now live in peace.
Samo za vasu informaciju: moj čukun deda je bio prvi srpski ucitelj u regionu oko Kumanova, na njegovoj povelji od kralja je pisalo: …da širi srpstvo..’ zasto bi sirio srpstvo, ako su to bili Srbi..njegov sin, moj pradeda, je produzio uciteljstvo, i svi su ga voleli, a u njegovom dnevniku je pisalo da je poducavao ‘makedonski narod’, a u jednoj knjizi pise da su moga pradedu voleli Makedonci, zato sto ih nije pokusavao asimilirati, KAO DRUGI UCITELJI U REGIONU…trebate vise uciti etnologiju i svedostva predaka da biste dosli do istinu o istoriji..u Egejskoj Makedoniji je vrsen nenormalan teror nad makedonskim narodom koji je ziveo, a njini potomci jos uvek zive, i ‘tiho’ govore svoj makedonski jezik, toponimi su makedonski, i zavrsavaju na -ovo, kao svako mesto u Makedoniji, itd itd, tako da ne slusajte sta vam vasi prijatelji Grci tvrde..njih su im drzavu dali Germaci i Britanci, i su se naselili iz Male Azije u celom danasnjem regionu Makedonija
Muchas gracias por el video! Soy peruano, pero no sé por qué tengo ese sentir de "Yugonostalgia", y el comienzo fue desde las Olimpiadas de Sarajevo 84, que las amo demasiado, y el SynthPop Yugoslavo, bandas como: Romantične Boje, La Card, Max & Intro and so many others! 🇵🇪❤️
Greetings from China! Yugoslavia was the best friend of China. The time without comrades from Yugoslavia is tough! We miss that time and your lovely country ! We have became the last evil for US and his alliance....
@@DogsOnAcid Chia is already capitalist... There are huge gap between rich and poor. So we lost lots of old friends,such as the friends from the 3rd world .We changed our mind and terrified the other..
@@Tipko Why? Because they hear the word "Democracy " and believe that the grass is greener on the other side..now they complain about government corruption, immigration, very high taxes and the European union (Britain is Brexit next year..they hate it)
@@halon7476 That is not completely true. Problem was more related to the fact that, after Tito's death, Yugoslavia should've had a co-joint leadership but one side, Serbia, started overtaking leadership roles, placing Serbs to power, something not appreciated by the other states. Take that in combination with a bad economy (Yugoslavia had a huge debt and decrease in productivity after the peak in the 70's),a situation where, just like in today's EU, some states were net payers (Slovenia, Croatia), some balanced (Bosnia) and some net receivers (Montenegro, Serbia and Macedonia). Slovenia and Croatia initially wanted a redistribution of power but when they could not gain this the whole country ended up in a collapse. I'm a Yugo-nostalgic myself and do miss Yugoslavia-days but unfortunately it's probably better not going back to the same situation as before (just before the war). Today's situation is not good enough, I completely agree with you there. Ex-Yugoslavian countries have a huge potential (industrial experience and know-how, low wages and being geographically in Europe). If they could get the politics working and change to a more industrial mindset, they have a huge gain to reap.
nope 1929 king alexandar karadzordezevic was furious becuse he shooted half of parliment and there were still arguments becuse of wich country name should be first so he decided to make it yugoalavia so 1929 becuse he was shoot in 1934 in marsail France.
@@hmcccpp The name of the kingdom which was in existence since 1918 known as the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenians, was officially changed to the Kingdom of Yugoslavia in 1929. It is more appropriate to say Yugoslavia started in 1918 since the actual concept of the nation started then.
You are too sweet Sanda. I wish you were my croatian teacher Btw, my great grandfather was croatian. My grandfather was a christian lebanese; and his grandfather was a Croatian priest who went to live to Lebanon to exercise his priesthood in a church of Beirut. (I am colombian)
I’m a young socialist from the US and when I’ve been learning about socialism, Marxism, anarchism, and communism for a long time now. I’ve been a socialist for half my life and I’ve researched Yugoslavia for half of that time. The break up of Yugoslavia absolutely breaks my heart. I would not want to recreate the Soviet Union and actually think it wasn’t that much of a loss for socialism EXCEPT for the fact that I think that the fall of the USSR allowed Yugoslavia to be destroyed. One of the biggest parts of the tragedy is that most people here in the US are so uneducated that they have NO IDEA what it was like or that it even existed. One day the world will see many more market socialist states in the west!
You don’t know the value of things until it’s gone. The only thing that puzzled me was; all these educated and professional people; why? Why allow something to collapse when great things are happening? Why?
Very interesting video. I've always been fascinated by the former Yugoslavia, and the new place it's become. I've only ever been to Slovenia, but I'd like to visit the rest of the former Yugoslavia some day..
They got drunk after each day of working or already in between and then would fight at home while we were kids. Thats one thing i remember for sure being born in Yugoslavia.
That system and lifestyle was a thorn in kapitalist west Tourists were visiting Yugoslavia and asked themselves how come we dont get same services and lifestyle Had to be destroyed With compliments of US and Western Europe they created 6 Bandustans
@johnnie anon The GDP is same now as it was during socialism But the difference now the social system is broken old people searching for bottles in garbage bins to earn few lipas Not sure about the other 5 Bandustans but in Croazia things are grimm
I’d rather be starving and cold than have no freedom of expression and upward elevation. Looked like a bad war from t.v news in the early nineties and I hope things get much better.
@@whatseemstobethematter2992 Yugoslavia wasn’t like the other Eastern bloc countries, they kept the Soviets out and did their own thing. Iirc it was actually quite similar to the US there before the feces hit the fan
Hola sanda! Mi bisabuelo era de Yugoslavia, de lo que sería actualmente grabovac en Croacia. Vino a la Argentina a buscar una vida mejor, se casó con una mujer austriaca y tuvieron su descendencia, mi abuelo también se casó con una mujer croata aquí en la Argentina. Actualmente estoy queriendo tramitar la ciudadanía pero se me está complicando porque en la zona en donde nació mi bisabuelo hubo una guerra contra los serbios y se quemaron las iglesias con ella toda su documentación. De todas maneras quiero seguir aprendiendo sobre su cultura e idioma, es sumamente interesante. Gracias!!!!!
My grandmother started receiving her retirement money after Croatia became independent, during the Yugoslav regime she did not receive a penny. That's how Yugoslavia worked at least for the croats.
Apartments were given to people for free just like that, I don't think so , maybe through the prosperous companies they worked for, after many years being employed there. If you explain things of that nature, then do it correctly .Statement that everyone were getting free apartment from the state is definitely not true, maybe the chosen ones high government officials and their cronies
My dad was given an apartment and he was definitely not a high ranking official or anything like that. As a matter of fact, he still has it to this day and we've been living in the US since 1984. When I talk to my parents about Yugoslavia, they have nothing but fond memories about it. I believe that things started falling apart after the death of Tito in 1980. We were gone before things got bad in the early 90s and some of the former republics are still recovering from the break up. I don't know the details about the break up of Yugoslavia, but from my understanding, it was a country that was greater than what it has turned into(separate individual countries). Živjela Jugoslavija. 😊
nino210 my grandfather was given a house for close to nothing as he described to me, but the biggest issue was he got it close to for free because he was part of the communist party. Anyone who wasn’t part of the communist party or who followed a religion was treated like scum and was looked down upon.
@@nino210 Apartment was given to your dad most likely through the company that he worked for many years and not for his good looks. I was not talking about actual politics and the prosperity of the country , I guess certain things were fine second half of 60s, 70s and the beginning of the 80s till they ran out of steam (money). By praising a dead horse is fine longest it is not exaggerated . If Yugoslavia was all milk and honey it would still exist in some form and your dad wouldn't have left. Politics and management buried the country than as politics, management, theft,corruption and cronyism are burying most of remnants. Thank God you're not there, by the way my father says he had a beautiful dog 45 years ago . ZIVJEO PAS
@@bayridge3569 He was given an apartment in Zagreb after serving for the army in Beograd as a musician. From my understanding it wasn't because he was special or anything although his looks may have had something to do with it. 😉
@@nino210 It was some type of arrangements for sure, apartments were not given out like candy. In your dad's case it was army career, army and all branches of police were on the top of pecking order.(authority and power) Army and police had a lot of privileges in that society everyone knows that, and for the most of the people that got their apartment is long career in companies they've worked.
La historia de los pueblos eslavos y de Yugoslavia en particular es demasiado interesante. Después de leer "Un puente sobre el Drina" de Ivo Andric, pude tener una idea mas precisa de las grandes riquezas culturales que han de encontrarse en esas comarcas donde históricamente han vivido los eslavos del sur. Ojala y algún día sea posible subtitular este video en español Sanda. Un caraqueño que tiene tiempo investigando sobre ustedes los balcánicos lo agradecería mucho... Te saludo por tu trabajo en pro del multiculturalismo en este año 2021. Espero seguir aprendiendo algo de Croata viendo tus videos.
I encourage everyone to read "NATO In The Balkans: Voices Of Opposition" by Ramsey Clark, Sara Flounders and others (1998), to better understand the situation in Ukraine and be able to anticipate future events.
Hi, I'm making a video series about life in former socialist societies, and was wondering if you or your mother would consider doing an interview for it? It would be greatly appreciated. I'm looking for people who have personal accounts, but stories from parents or grandparents are also greatly appreciated. The video series is going to, hopefully, try to detail the differences between the various different societies, in an attempt to display that socialist theory, in practice, was not monolithic in nature. We're planning on 10 videos of 10-15 minute length. Each one detailing a particular person's stories of life in socialist society. Please and thank you.
@@philippe5947 Basically, it's the idea of syndicalism, but within local communities as well as in the workplace. Kind of like council communism meets syndicalism, but depending on who you're talking to, it runs the Gambit, economically, from mutualism to full communism.
My dad's name was Steve Biscan. My birth certificate says im Yugoslavia . im interested in knowing more about Yugoslavia. I am unable to connect with my father.
@@universalconquest4447 of course you can? Sadly when Bosnia and Herzegovina was invaded by “FR Yugoslavia” aka VRS forces, what were we gonna do? Accept being occupied? I loved Yugoslavia,but unlike people blaming Serbia for the break up (it still was a majority of Serbias fault), it was mostly the people being brainwashed by politicians who already had planned the breakup following Marshal Tito’s death. At the start of the Bosnian war, ARBIH was a humble military group, however and sadly, nearing the end, we became a mockery, a wannabe mudzahedin separatist group, a true shame for our people, hopefully one day we will solve the effects of the wars that happened with nationalism out the way, then and only then can the balkans start co operating, and a re unification is a whooole other story
@@matijakovacevic5798 The JNA was stationed in all the republics of Yugoslavia before the war even started so how can it invade them? The only people responsible for the war and downfall of Yugoslavia are the Slovenian, Croatian, and Muslim seperatist movements which were financed by hostile external forces in order to destabilize and dissolve the Federation. The sole purpose for the creation of the 'Armija BiH' was to break away from Yugoslavia using military means. Alija Izetbegovic was the highest on the chain of command in 'Armija BiH' with the power to overrule any decisions made by generals. Izetbegovic republished his essay titled the 'Islamic Declaration' in 1990 (2 years before the war in BiH) in which he urges Muslims to radicalize and establish Islamic rule and law in BiH, this was an obvious threat to the Christian majority (Orthodox and Catholics) and the socialist order. It is an oxymoron to call yourself a Yugoslav if your allegiance was and is to the 'Armija BiH', it is like calling yourself an American in 1814 while fighting alongside the British to undermine the American nation. Croatia and Bosnia are now puppet states and colonies of the West, similar to their status during the German ruled Austro-Hungarian Empire.
The life itself was great back then for that time,legit everything. :) You couldve afford whole vecation on our sea for whole family,with 5-6 payments you couldve get yourself a brand new yugo 45-which was an amazing thing to get back then. People had money to actually afford a fucking bread every single day,meanwhile we cant say the same for today's day. Better system,abnormaly huge military power. Probably top 3-5 in each sport.With an economy we were at the top in the world,we were pure POWER in Europe,just like in the whole world. We all know that those 3 presidents fucked up us because of the money and because they were told by the US and the rest to do it,we all know back then whole west side was scared of how truly Yugoslavia was powerful.Yugoslavia was a country that people from the outside wanted to live in and build a good future for their family. We had everything,now we (Croats) have HDZ with tons of destroyed companies,destroyed families,almost a half of a milion people left but hey..we have HDZ...and 200 rich families.But im pretty sure the rest of the countries arent doing any better. Such a shame people were dumb enough to kill their brothers by the blood by the history.Best of luck everyone from ex Yu with building their future in this shitty place..in the end..good people and beautiful nature.
To je ono najgore, što su ljudi tek tako pljunuli na grobove svojih predaka, koji su živote dali kako bi stvorili zajedničku zemlju. Komšije, kumovi, prijatelji su pucali jedni na druge se mole drugom Bogu i zato što su "zli" Srbi/Hrvati/Bosanci. To je najveća tragedija, što su dozvolili da im tako isperu mozak i pretvore se u životinje. Ta država nije bila savršena (tako nešto nigde ne postoji), ali je sistem bio neuporedivo humaniji u odnosu na današnjeg Frankenštajna. Svi kukaju na komunizam, ali se bune kada im oduzmeš neke tekovine tog istog sistema. Postali smo izvor jeftine radne snage, a naše "nezavisne" vođe rasprodaju nekadašnje privredne gigante i prirodne resurse, i sve to predstavljaju kao nekakve strane investicije, i još se time ponose. Meni je žao što smo mi u Srbiji isporučili Miloševića Hagu, trebali smo da obesimo to govno u centru Beograda, zbog svih sranja koja su izazvali nacional-boljševik i njegova luda žena sa cvetom u kosi. A znaš li ko je prao pare za Miloševića i njegove falange? Hrvati. Kao što su Srbi prali pare Hrvatima. To nisu nikakve teorije zavere, sve to ima dokumentovano Domagoj Margetić, jedan od retkih ljudi koji imaju hrabrosti da istražuju kako nas je gamad opljačkala. Pozdrav iz okupacione zone Srbija
You are absolutely right the yonger generation have no idea what they have lost it's the greatest tragedy. But hey they got their capitalism and so called democracy so let them enjoy! FOOLS!!
Hello Sanda, Hello Nela, Such a nice story ... Too Bad it is not true though. Jugoslavija was formed after World war 1 (so NOT after WW2). And it was renamed in 1929. It really sounds interesting ... Like some sort of a fairytale ... But, sadly, it is not what was going on in Jugoslavija. Education was free, but the percentage of illiterate people was around 50% until 1970's ! Health care was free. You are right about that. We did NOT have so many doctors or specialists ... But it was OK. Homeless people might have been rare in Croatia, but I was born and raised in a slum in Jugoslavija. So there were no houses or apartments for my family and many families in Belgrade, Nis, Leskovac etc. Jobs were available ONLY for those that supported Communists and were members of their party. Romani population (around 5-10% of total population) was living out of "thin air". Why would a country with 0% crime rate have a jail or a prison ? Some people were allowed to have MUCH more than a planned minimum ;) Other than this ... Thank you for sharing your experience (it is NOT true but it is nice to hear your opinion). Miss Sanda, Miss Nela, you are beautiful. Peace.
Bok, Sanda! Muchas gracias! Un vídeo muy interesante. Yugoslavia fue un régimen socialista atípico por la ruptura con la URSS de Stalin en 1948. Esto le permitió a Tito jugar un papel de puente entre el bloque occidental capitalista liderado por USA y el soviético del pacto de Varsovia (especialmente tras la reanudación de las relaciones diplomáticas con Moscú con Khrusov) y también en la esfera internacional liderando el bloque de los países no alineados. El socialismo yugoslavo, creo que su gran ideólogo fue Kardelj, fue también original y diferente del soviético. (Paro ya porque me podría pasar horas escribiendo sobre historia...). Esto que explico es teoría que puede sacarse de cualquier manual de historia pero el testimonio de tu mamá es muy interesante porque habla de sus vivencias y da su visión personal de la vida en Yugoslavia y en la actual Croacia. Muchas gracias por este interesantísimo video y saludos a ti y a tu mami!
Jaume muchas gracias por tu excelente y educativo comentario! Tus comentarios son siempre muy bienvenidos en mi canal y, por mí, no tienes que parar de hablar sobre la historia 😊 Mas bien, me alegra saber que el video te pareció interesante. Esto es una parte de las vivencias de mi madre que pasó su infancia en los años 60 y adolescencia en los años 70. Por supuesto la vida durante los 45 años de Yugoslavia cambio mucho con cada década, así como la situación política y la modernización. ¡Te mandamos saludos! Puno pozdrava iz Hrvatske!
" Bok, Sanda! Puno vam hvala! Vrlo zanimljiv video. Jugoslavija je bila netipičan socijalistički režim zbog raskida Staljina sa SSSR-om 1948. To je omogućilo Titu da igra glavnu ulogu između kapitalističkog zapadnog bloka predvođenog SAD-om i Sovjetskim Varšavskim paktom (posebno nakon ponovnog uspostavljanja odnosa diplomate s Moskvom s Hrususom) a također i u međunarodnoj sferi koja vodi blok nesvrstanih zemalja. Jugoslavenski socijalizam, mislim da je njegov veliki ideolog Kardelj, također je bio originalan i drugačiji od sovjetskog. (Prestajem jer bih mogao satima pisati o povijesti ...). Ono što objašnjavam je teorija koja se može preuzeti iz bilo kojeg priručnika o povijesti, ali svjedočanstvo vaše majke vrlo je zanimljivo jer govori o svojim iskustvima i daje svoje osobno viđenje života u Jugoslaviji i današnjoj Hrvatskoj. Hvala vam puno na ovom zanimljivom videu i pozdravima vama i vašoj mami! " Google transl.
@@CroatianExperiencewithSanda wow, muy buen español.
El socialismo de Yugoslavia se llamaba "socialismo autogestionario", el cual proponía que los medios de producción pertenecían a los trabajadores, y no al Estado, como en los regímenes marxistas como la URSS o China. Es como el mutualismo de Produdhon más que marxismo-comunismo. In Yugoslavia, socialism was called "self-management", which basically gave the means of production to the workers instead of the State, unlike other Marxist-communist States like China or the USSR. It ressembles more Proudhon's mutualism more than Marxism-Communism.
I encourage everyone to read "NATO In The Balkans: Voices Of Opposition" by Ramsey Clark, Sara Flounders and others (1998), to better understand the situation in Ukraine and be able to anticipate future events.
I visited Yugoslavia in the early 1980's the people were so friendly , and seemed happy. the country was so beautiful . Before I went I had expected to see a poor nation with oppression. It really amazed me how modern and beautiful it was in that time.
I encourage everyone to read "NATO In The Balkans: Voices Of Opposition" by Ramsey Clark, Sara Flounders and others (1998), to better understand the situation in Ukraine and be able to anticipate future events.
My family had escaped during the war, everything was just as your mom had said. Rich or Poor didn't matter we were all in the same boat together, I'm Yugoslavian stil at heart. whether you be Serbian, Croatian or anything else you all are my brothers and sisters
yes thats socialism in a nutshell. bring everyone down to the same bottom level.
I lived in East Germany in early 1980s. I enjoyed watching Yugoslavian films at that time.
How was the DDR in your experience compared to Yugoslavia?
The DDR and its people were very nice to Vietnamese students. No crime. Alles ist da. Beautiful. I did not have the chance to visit Yugoslavia but understand that it was more developed than the GDR.
@@ninhful In which city did you live in at that time?
film studio DEFA about indians with yugoslavian actour Goiko Mitic
@@MrDgo4life Ich war in Weimar und dann in Berlin. Viele Grüße.
Great video Sanda! Yugoslavia was a great place, and had a really great potential. Your mom mentioned free housing, and it worked because part of the salary went into a common housing, which the company used for the purchase of apartments, which were later allocated the employees. That worked until the '90's, my dad got his apartment in 1987. There was another benefit that the employees of the Yugoslav companies had - paid vacation. Almost all Yugoslav companies owned resorts on the coast and in the mountains, so holidays were extremely cheap for every Yugoslavian family. Yugoslavian tourism was well developed, and according to World Tourism Organization, in 1989 Yugoslavia was among the 10 most developed countries in the world. Tourism is considered an invisible export, and Yugoslavia has been generating a large income from tourism. We also had strong domestic production, and almost everything was produced, and there was no need to import. Yugoslav socialism was at the level of the Scandinavian social protection system, which is considered the best in the world. The Yugoslav model was called self-management, there were so-called workers' councils, on which all important decisions were made, and workers elected directors, they decided on investments, etc... It was a different time, people loved their country and had a strong sense of solidarity. Almost the entire country was built (roads, railways, bridges, buildings) through the so-called youth workers' actions - young people throughout Yugoslavia VOLUNTARILY went around the country and participated in the reconstruction and development. There was a low crime rate due to the secret police sending criminals abroad. They would mostly become secret service associates, received passports and official IDs, and in exchange for freedom, they did dirty work for the Yugoslav service and dealt with the so-called "internal enemies of the state." Unfortunately, it all backfired, because all of these criminals have become the dogs of war and leaders of paramilitary formations in the '90s. If you're interested in how and why the tragedy occurred in Yugoslavia, I suggest you check out some interview with Croatian investigative journalist Domagoj Margetić, who discovered the trail of money and how leaders of Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks enormously enriched themselves while people were killed in a senseless war . He claims he has evidence that a minimum of $ 150 billion has been looted from the former Yugoslavia. Sorry for the lengthy comment, but this is a very extensive topic. God bless your mom and you and greetings for beautiful Rijeka from Belgrade!
Good write up man but alot of those that worked for the secret service were honest good men too. Example of someone well known being franko simatovic. From the personal stories i heard he was a good man but you gotta put the blame on someone i guess.... Of course there were some mental cases that were specifically chosen around the time of the country breaking up. Majority of those maniacs are still running free today. But Jebiga man shit happens it was a great country i hope one day everyone in that area agrees to form something like that again. Too much corruption to make that possible though these days. :^/
Yugoslavia seemed lovely.. the only default I've heard about so far is its authoritarianism, and Tito's crimes (illegal elections) but other than that, he seemed like a good leader, and Yugoslavia like a wonderful market socialist country.. if only it didn't break up :(
Yo soy de los que piensa que los balcánicos y el mundo entero, perdieron mucho con la desintegración de la Republica Federal Socialista de Yugoslavia... Un hecho que deberia aun hoy merecer mejores investigaciones, donde la rigurosidad este por encima de los intereses nacionalistas sectarios, para entender realmente mucho mejor la historia contemporanea, y los mismos intereses que suelen estar detras de ella.... Saludos desde Caracas, Venezuela.
@@philippe5947 TITO have died penniless hi was having couple of children he left nothing to them not a single dolar absolutely nothing , they were having nothing when he was alive, they were having some ordinary jobs and they were providing for them self and they were living in apartments like the others ordinary citizens, and he was the president for 40 years, he was literally working 12 hours a day every day, and he was a human being he made some mistakes, I really want now to have president like him for life than to watch this selfish and greedy Hippocrates to day destroying the ordinary People.
@@stefanfreestylezThere were good and bad people in everything of course. But the leaders of the SRs in the 90s were war profiteers, there is no doubt in that. The only thing that surprised me is this huge number of 150 billion dollars. That's huge. Even for war profiteers.
My parents were born in Yugoslavia and whenever they talk abt their amazing lifes when Tito was our leader it feels like a beautiful fairytale
Well Sara, that's your perspective. It all depends on who you ask, for my grandparents and my father it was not so amazing . My Dida fled Yugoslavia on a boat to Italy at the time after spending 3 years in prison for selling regulated goods. It was the post war and there was a whole black market situation. He then brought the family to Italy and went scouting in South America where they all finally settled. There were 2 words that were big no-nos on his table: Tito and Comunism. The other word he did not like much was Yugoslavia since he always identified as a Croat first and Dalmatian second.
The bright side to this story is that it would have been a fairytale for him, I would not be writing this comment now.
@Class is Fundamental not an Ustaša, when Croatia ceded Dalmatia to the Italians he fled for Slavonia. That kind of says it all.
@Class is Fundamental I heard similar stories from people from the local Croatian community. I understand the Yugoslavia point of view. I also understand the exploitation by politicians of the latent resentments between nationalities. I am sure that with a bottle of rakija on the table we can talk for hours about this we may not reach an agreement, but I am sure we will have fun trying.
@@nomadvehr827 good
When Yugoslavia died, one of the brightest beacons of socialist optimism was gone forever.
But vietnam still exist
@starlightglimmer3260 that's true:D but Yugoslavia was definitely THE country to live in, they are both amazing and I hope socialism will rise again
@@starlightglimmer3260vietnam are more like capitalism now man, just like china, school hopital aint free
You mean to say that a totalitarian state had finally ended?
Love yugoslavia from greece❤️✌🏼if only balkans were in peace we could achieve many things
Wow the first greek ever that doesnt hate us!!!
I thought that all greeks hate us.
@@filipstefanovski2077 greeks loved Yugoslavia what do you think?
Balkans will perhaps only have lasting peace when the Savior returns. Otherwise it could be argued to be the most war torn region of the entire world. Strong people & good cultures, BUT maybe ancient curses in blood for thousands of years. Macedonia sure is a great example these days for all it's neighbors. In my opinion the total society of Serbia is improving. However it usually takes only one Balkan nation to regress the entire region back to its relative norm. IF all those nations enter the EU then perhaps there could be a hundred years of peace soon as the EU survives the next decade or two.
I heard many great stories about the former Yugoslavia from my parents when we were still the Soviet Union.. I want to visit the former yugoslavian countries cause I know that these 6 nations weren't just ruch in history but also in culture and in places... ♥ 🇷🇺
It was too good to be True. Serbs, bosnians and others were good in yugoslavia, while croatia and Slovenia werent. It also doesnt help that yugoslavia did some sketchy and horrible things to croats. It was kinda good, but you cant compare it to today
@@_Mark41 Slovenia was the richest country. 10 day war only with Serbia. But Bosnia had the most blood and political war. Once your a catholic in Bosnia ur a croat while ur a damn Bosniak. And if ur a muslim THAN ur a bosniak. If ur a muslim in croatia that u are croatian
@Darko Ulmer Kosovo and Vojvodina were Autonomous Regions before Milošević, but he effectively took over power from the leaders of these provinces - Kosovo had a strong desire to become it's own Republic instead of being under control from Belgrade which Milošević did not like - and initiated a coup d'etat in Montenegro which gave meant he had control over 4 out of the 8 votes the council would have.
In Italian there is a saying:
" When you leave the old for the new you know where you've been but not where you're going to"
Very true
love and respect from China. Born in 1990s, my generation has no cutural links to Yugoslavia, but people of my parents' or grandparents' age have deep connection culturally with Yugoslavia, because I was told by them that everyone in China in the 1950-1970 period watched Yugoslavian movies, and were amazed at how good the living standard were at Yugoslavia.
Although China and USSR were in military alliance during 1950s, the two countries didn't get along well after that and had a few military confrontations. Overall, China didn't want to participate in the Cold War but to develop as an independent nation, and the socialist path adopted by China now is in no way close to USSR. Just to be clear that socialist is not evil, and not all socialist countries are the same. Socialist countries can also prosper and bring the vast majority of people high quality of life and be open-minded.
Although the Yugoslav system wasn't perfect, it was incomparably better than the system in today's banana republics of the former state. There are several reasons for the disintegration of Yugoslavia and the senseless civil war. After the fall of the Berlin Wall, the need for Yugoslavia as a buffer zone between East and West ceased. The then national leaders provoked the war, in order to plunder their own people. An investigative journalist from Croatia gathered evidence that Croats laundered money for Serbs and vice versa, even though they were at war. It is estimated that they robbed at least 150 billion dollars, and the money ended up in secret accounts. This is not a conspiracy theory, he also testified before the European Parliament, but the European Union is not interested in resolving this case, because then we wouldn't be in debt bondage. Great powers also had interests, primarily Germany and the United States. Natural resources and former socialist economic giants are owned by companies from Germany and the United States. The largest NATO base is located in Kosovo, and Kosovo also has huge mineral resources - worth 900 billion, according to US estimates from 1998. Madeleine Albright, NATO General Wesley Clark and the Clinton family have a large share in the ownership of energy companies from Kosovo. German companies own almost the entire Croatian coast. We are today just a source of cheap labor, humiliated and robbed. Unfortunately, a large part of the people don't understand that, and they hate each other, just because they believe in different God, or because they are "evil" Serbs / Croats / Bosniaks...
What do they think about cultural revolution.
@@markomarkovic5729 So sad that cultural differences destroyed that great socialistic project
Comon Tista It was a chaos. The society was out of control. People go crazy . Youngers could judge those who against the revolution. So many schoolers,officers and teachers had bullied by crazy people... Most of them had to suicide. Otherwise the crazy young people would killed them by cruel methods. One of the chairman was judged by the crazy people and be kicked to die....
only really evil socialist country was cambodia
If Yugoslavia still existed I would live there!
Sounds like an awesome place :з
I wish I could visit Yugoslavia before the war. Where people had smiles instead of scars.
@Hannah Cabana it was greater as you think
My dad was in yugoslav and bosanska armija
Ye Wish it still existed becouse I whould be a citizen of it:)
@@bobob8820 yep
I would love to have lived or at least emulate the Yugoslavia system. I'd like to have a job and healthcare and education and know my children won't have to struggle with rent, mortgages, unemployment and tuition.
But dont you dare criticize the Marshal Tito, or want to control you life in any way
dog guy there was no need to criticize Tito if everything was fine
@@tribinaaux4043 besides lack of basic human rights, if you cant criticize the government then you are not free or have basic human rights
Yeah, I'm sure you'd love the government having complete control of what you do and can say. At one point, you weren't allowed to leave the country or you would be arrested. Look at how many people still escaped. That should tell you everything.
@@rockcommen1106 seems you'd rather have free speach then the guarantee you won't go homeless, unemployed or in massive debt from medical bills or going to college.
So the trade off was, more poverty in exchange of some rich people being able to accumulate capital? Seems like capitalism just made everything worse :/
That was not capitalism that was fault of war annihilating the economy and infrastructure and corrupt politicians ensuring their friends and family profiteer at the expense of everyone else. Even if they introduce socialism again, at this point it will just be those same corrupt politicians with all the money and everyone else sharing in equal nothingness.
@@goatwarrior3570 I mean, sure, but I get their point, the nations that used to form Yugoslavia are now capitalist, and in a very bad situation. Correct me if I'm wrong - which I might very well be - but at the collapse of Yugoslavia market socialism was also replaced by capitalism, no?
@@philippe5947 Yes, we are in a bad economic situation but as I am saying before, that is not the fault of capitalism, it is the fault of corrupt, jingoistic politicians. Also destruction to infrastructure during the wars, in Bosnia and Croatia over reliance on tourism is hindering progress. There is also issue of young skilled workers leaving country for EU for better wages, far too much reliance on public sector, something left over from socialist times, too high deficit, too much black market trading, too much bureaucracy hindering new companies and making unattractive to foreign investment. It cannot be overstated just how much of this poor management is result of political corruption.
The economic hardships of Yugoslavia were in place long before the transition to capitalism. Under socialist system unemployment was terrible and debt was huge. SFRJ was borrowing vast amounts from Western nations to keep economy functioning and sending young unemployed overseas, mainly Germany, so they could give illusion of lower unemployment. The final economic collapse in 1990 was what causes the breakup of SFRJ. Also corruption in these times was widespread. They have worker controlled factories but to get a job there you're going to have to be relative of someone on council or bribe someone. This result in terrible productivity as worker can be lazy and still hold job and receive labor bonus depending on if their uncle or something is high up in council.
I think horrors of war and current bad economic situation give some older people rose tinted memory of former Jugoslavia. There was much economic hardship in final decades but some people benefit from the security of worker collective firms, even if that security was through corruption. I think they don't want to accept it was all an illusion that would and did eventually collapse into chaos.
I hope one day Bosnia, Serbia and Croatia can move forward like other former communist countries of Europe and progress somewhere but it's a long hard road ahead.
@@goatwarrior3570 A bad economic situation because of neoliberalism, it's interesting that you condemn reliance on the public sector yet mourn the loss of infrastructure. Strong infrastructure is the result of correctly allocated state money for public projects that benefit that, the public. I recommend reading about neoliberalism economics, after Yugoslavia split, this economic policy swept the sovereign states and today's bad situation is largely the result of this policy (including worker exodus to other countries due to a lack of local industry).
prospect.org/economy/neoliberalism-political-success-economic-failure/
@@user-qg4um9hx8e "A bad economic situation because of neoliberalism"
You really don't know a thing about the situation here if you think it's due to neoliberalism. Let me guess, you are American?
I think Yugoslavia it was the best country in the east Europe
I think it was best country in a world, there was no borders for us in that time
It was not part of Eastern Europe. Belonged to non-alliance movement.
Geographically belongs to south Europe.
It was the best country worldwide...
It wasn’t Eastern Europe- not culturally, not politically and not geographically. its name literally means southern Slavs! It was also founder of nonaligned movement that fought imperialism and colonialism.
Well I am from Macedonia and I can understand every yugoslavian language accept for slovenian
I mean, there are only really 3 languages Macedonian, serbo-croation, and Slovenian
Nobody understands Slovenian 🤣😭
@Horvatska Banovina Of course, there is multiple definitions for South Slavic language Serbo-Croatian is one of them. The language differs in grammar, dialects and ling. script (Latin, Cyrillic). But in the core they are all the same: a South Slavic language that was changed over time from Romans, Austrians, ottomans etc.
But you Balkan people really need to stop hating each other because of nationalist beliefs.
Greetings from Germany. ✋🏻😊
@@mrlee361 I understand it but I cant speack it
@@ladev91 and there is montenegrin, Bosnian and bulgarian. Not just only your languages also other slavic languages
Unfortunately things changed it used to be a wonderful amazing beautiful place where everyone and everything was wonderful and everyone was happy and life was wonderful l miss it so much . I have fond memories of the Amazing country of old Yugoslavia ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
It was too good to be True. Serbs, bosnians and others were good in yugoslavia, while croatia and Slovenia werent. It also doesnt help that yugoslavia did some sketchy and horrible things to croats. It was kinda good, but you cant compare it to todayđ
@Awawawa CM they didnt happen in later years. Brotherhood and unity was encoureged, Tensions rose again towards last years of yugoslavia.
I'm an American, and even I have to say that I wish I could go to Yugoslavia today. :(
Aidan Buford go to the Philippines then!
People’s republic Of corona Don’t go to the Philippines
ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=yugoslavian+issues+warning
@@quarksandstuff4011 dont go to the philippines
Unluckly USA supported the politics who destroyed our freedom, now we are BANANA PUPPET STATES OF AMERICA
Amazing video,it's sad how we fought each other at the end and how it fell apart.greetings from Serbia.
Yugoslavia is a pretty positive example of a socialist system that actually worked fairly well. especially given how many people who used to live there often have positive opinions of it. its not a perfect example of course, there were still numerous flaws, but its a good demonstration of its potential.
Socialism was great in Yugoslavia
During Titos time, the majority of Crops and food was farmed by Albanian and bosnian farmers who worked in terrible conditions so that the serbs could eat and party in Belgrade in their nice houses and neighbourhoods, while they lived of the backs of Bosnians and Kosovo Albanians. So Serbia is a selfish country full greedy people, who still think most of the Balkans belongs to them. When Nato rained bombs on them 2000 people died in Belgrade and they still complain about it today, when in Kosovo 12,000 albanians were killed and in Bosnia 50,000 were killed, search the massacre of Srebenica, 8000 Bosnian men were killed in a town in one day. They should be ashamed of themselves.
that was life in Yugoslavia
My Aunt was giving birth in 1988 and the hospital did not let her give birth in their facilities because she was albanian. That country should be ashamed of themselves
@@user-fk9md2il4d But you forgot to add that NATO killed 8.000 albanians in Kosovo and 5.000 serbs.
@@user-fk9md2il4d I get your point but you are talking about the declain period of yugoslavia that I agree was horrible, but yugoslavia under tito's rule was great.
@@user-fk9md2il4d that was after tito
Tito was a good leader
@@themaniac2448 He was a lot better than Milosevic and I repeat again, He was great for the Serbians, but still did not fully respect the other ethnic groups. He just tried to hold the balance and keep it all together, but there was a deep hatred brewing within.
Your mother is a wise, perceptive, and eloquent woman. What a treasure to have in your life!
Thanks for uploading! I'm all the way from Louisiana, United States .. My great grandmother migrated from Yugoslavia. My grandmother and grandfather told me stories when I I was younger I'm now 30 and been researching the nation and came across your video! Your mom seems so sweet, by the way! Thank you for uploading!
God Bless your family &
Rest In Peace Comrade Tito
johnnie anon Tito wasn’t that good
Teodora D Tito was pretty good, and it wasn’t just the death of Tito that made Yugoslavia fall apart, its a bit more nuanced than that.
@johnnie anon Communist Yugoslavia was great because of Tito. It's not Yugoslavia that was great and Tito just came along. Tito created communist Yugoslavia and while his rule had issues he made the nation prosper
@johnnie anon Well Tito did suppress nationalism. Did fuck over Stalin. And was able to stay neutral after the revolution. Jugislavia only fell apart after he died.
Holy shit my grammar
I lived in Yugoslavia now in the poor Republic of Kosovo
🇭🇷🇽🇰
i whanted to write u mean serbia sooo hard but nah i whont we ae all one country
Kosovo? That's a funny way to say Serbia
Did you live good in Yugoslavia? :)
Kosovo is in a poor republic of Serbia.🇽🇰=🇷🇸
Question is why you need 5 cars? 3 houses? Actually we dont need it.
Exactly! I know so many people who lived in the USSR and East germany say how when they were young they would buy into western propaganda of how infinite options and choice are signs of development and progress but now they reminisce the old times when they didn’t have to worry about rent, monthly grocery expenses, children’s education, healthcare costs and so much. So many belarussians tell me how back then they had everything a person needs and now that they supposedly have so many “choices” they can’t afford any.
@@OfficialSilverMoon 😆😅😅😅😅😅😆👍 people, human beings are never ok until they are like sssshhhhh....
Why do you not need it and someone not willing to work for it like most do deserve it?
Love Yugoslavia with all my heart!
Please I have to come to
The love between you and your mom is so evident. Thank you for this historical context and especially the differentiation between the nuances of socialism, including the different ways it manifests. I know this video is 3 years old but I wish your mom the best of health. My nona is from Pula and I have been learning so much from your videos so I can speak to her in her native language since she has no one else to do that with. Thank you for your generosity in sharing your knowledge!
Thank you so much for this comment! It made my day. My mom is alive and quite well, we managed to get through covid. It is wonderful that you are learning hrvatski to talk to your nona!! Well done! 🥰 All the best & good luck! Sretno!
As with all south slavs and balkans.
Hi Sanda!! I'm Colombian, I was in Croatia 4 months ago, It´s a beautiful country, I´m fall in love with Croatia !!😍
So cool!
Having visited Slovenia, Croatia and BiH recently just half a year ago, in my opinion all three countries are quite different today. Slovenia felt more rural, sparsely populated with great nature and fresh air. Zagreb was soooooo densely populated, it was crowded absolutely everywhere and for some reason it was the only place in the world I've been to where almost every single restaurant was fully booked at any time of the day (hope you'll be able to tell me why; I was visiting in early December and I wonder if its due to any festive season). Dubrovnik is really really expensive (over-inflated prices for tourists) though really beautiful (stunning sunrise and sunsets, unlike anywhere I've been to in the world, would love to live there). The Plitvice Lakes is my favourite place in Croatia -- would definitely visit again!! Mostar (BiH) definitely had a unique Muslim "East meets west" feel to it in terms of architecture etc.
Slovenia has 100 in/km2, Croatia and Bosnia both have 75 in/km2.
Only 10% of slovenians live in Ljubljana, while almost 25% of croatians live in Zagreb.
If you drove from Zagreb to Split with the highway, you would see and empty space all the time.
@@contekozlovski and a little "cultural" note about Slovenia: You need to have your passport at hand to play the accordion 😂😂😂😂
You mean that you lived in a certain type of paradise, with security, education, home for everyone and work for everyone.
And it worked well. The problem was that if you tried to sabotage that system, the system would defend itself trying to preserve those achievements.
And you were tired of it.
Today life is full of anxiety, fear and you see old people eating from garbage cans.
got it.
And you were ungrateful muggles who threw everything away.
People are strange.
Not forgetting that the generation that built this system faced a bloody war with an evil enemy.
They won this war and built this paradise-like system.
And you, children of that generation threw it all away.
Well, the advantage is that today few people can have many houses, car companies ....
I see.
Socialism was great!
Shame on you!
An excess of luxury turns people into spoiled ungrateful brats. The same has happened to every empire throughout history. In order to achieve a long lasting and stable paradisiacal system, life can never be made to be 'too' easy.
If a Yugoslavia still existed I would want to live there so badly. Yugoslavia has become an obsession of mine
@@justaguy6544 you sound american. Socialism is bad because if we don’t have mass struggle and poverty, life is too easy, and it implodes.” What a ridiculous notion.
Youre naive. We were dependent on the west vs east tension wich generated money and political power to us as the unaligned strong nation. Our economy was plummeting during the 80s and our leaders requests for backing our dinar were ignored. Our leader, who was revered and respected had died a decade earlier and left noone as a succesor, old ethnic tensions emerged and "communist yugoslav leaders" capitalized on them instead of defending yugoslavia as they should. The socialism we loved had already died out there were no paid vacations, paid lunches and free apartments left for the newer generations who were not as loyal and grateful as the previous. All it needed for disaster was a spark wich was not prevented or even encouraged by certain world powers who didnt want a strong south slavic state influencing their policies in the post soviet balkans. Yugoslavia wasloved and many people still mourn it but it was doomed a decade before the war broke out.
@@andrejcccc I am not naive, of course there were problems, there were important course corrections that should have been made, both in youguslavia and in the soviet union.
Certainly, a big part of the "communist leadership" had already degenerated into a careerist elite that had nothing more to do with the guys who truly looked for the future.
What makes me angry, is the waste of the opportunity to advance the way of life on this small and poor planet, and you guys, apparently, came close.
I'm cheering for you to find your way back towards a socialism full of abundance and freedom, as dreamed by Marx and Tito.
My grandfather had 3 cars in same time in 70s so u could have ...also u could have own private company but not big..i thing most was like 10 or 15 employers ..it was called samostalna zanatska radnja or samostalna trgovinska radnja ,samostalna ugostiteljska radnja etc..depend off type off business
I want to ask what percentage of government tax from privately owned businesses at that time.??
My dad had 3 cars and we also had a apartment and we had a house
@moljac Off course private property existed ..all citizens houses were private property ..for government tax on private business i dont know....my grandfather was making metal fences and he lived good but work a lot ..like 10-12 hours a day.....that is reason most still choose to work in socialist companies ..because they worked less and could live normal with salary ..so problem was for him to find workers ..he mostly had 2 or 3
@@dzonikg Today you can't live if you don't work 10-12 hours.
@@chickenlover657 I work 2-3 hours a day..but i work online for my self
Thank you for the excellent video! Part of my family is from Yugoslavia and this was very informative as someone who is trying to discover how daily life functioned in the country. I appreciate the balanced perspective comparing the positives and negatives of Socialist Yugoslavia vs. Modern Croatia.
Moja majka je iz Beograda i ona je studirala econimiju u Beogradu,sve sto ti kaze tvoja majka ide isto za moju, zivela Yugoslavija!!!!!!! :(
thank you for the precious video.
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Wow, thank you for making this video! My grandparents emigrated from Yugoslavia to Canada in the 1960s, and I've always been curious about what life was like in Yugoslavia after they left. Hopefully I'll have a chance to visit Slovenia and Croatia (my grandparents' home states) once this pandemic is over.
I was fortunate to holiday through Yugoslavia in 1990 - the people are beautiful and so friendly and i got the same friendliness across the whole country. I holidayed again through there recently across the new 6 countries and i got a sense that majority of people everywhere miss Yugoslavia.
I love the region and the People.
and i love this video i have learnt a lot.
god bless the whole region.
I love your channel I am a descendant of Croats My last name is Maric from my grandfather and Topic from my grandmother who lived in Split, I send you best regards, the work you are doing is very good and educational
Thank you! I am happy you enjoy my work and find it useful. Best regards!
Brate you are 100 % CROAT ! Greetz From a Croat born in Germany 🇭🇷😉
@Damian Wayne why?
@Damian Wayne hahhahhah okay American Gangster! Go in your Disneyland like the Roman empire and wait when they get destroyed ☝️
@@user-bi3vs7id6c wow learned some croatian brate
Baš dobar video. Hvala lepo devojke . Tvoja mama je fenomenalna. Puno pzdrava is crne gore! Čuvajte se .
I believe Yugoslavia will be reunited one day, it was the role model of what a socialist country could be, btw, if Yugoslavia became more democratic, it would be much better.
Greeting from China(PRC), Yugoslavia’s old comrade.
That's a topic for debating :) Greetings to China from Croatia!
unfortuantely China failed at establishing socialism. Now it's just authoritarian capitalism. Could've at least been democratic...
It would be much better if the nations from ex Yugoslavia united economically at first to help each other
@@beyond_modernity8554 unfortuantely Russia failed at establishing socialism. Now it's just authoritarian capitalism. Could've at least been democratic...
@@MacetazzOpina yep, goes for any other attempt, except Vietnam after the 80s maybe.
I remember Yorgoslavia ...
Nice to know the once-great country is still appreciated by those who lived there, the younger generations, and many many people from all over the world!
I regret the end of the Soviet Union for a bunch of similar reasons, and I say this as a Ukrainian raised in England whose parents FLED the Soviet Union over an incident that got out of control back in 1980. Yet when they worked they were diplomats. Long story.
I found very valuable information in this video and also very interesting since it was explained by these two wonderful girls who were actually living there during two key periods in recent history and that is very important to understand the context of these countries today. Just loved it! 10/10
This was a beautiful video to watch, very helpful and entretaining. Thank you Sanda !
Yugoslavia ❤
I am a Travel Blogger and going to explore Ex-Yugoslavia countries soon. Your video helped me to understand its history.
This is very interesting. In my early childhood, Yugoslavia still existed, the separation process and later war in Croatia were events I saw. Terrible times. It is amazing how these days we can get to hear someone from Yugoslavia despite the time and distance. Great videos. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much for this video. I'd love a video about life in Croatia before being Croatia, before being Yugoslavia 🙂
Hello from England 👋🙂 Very interesting video . I'm 50 & grew up believing Yugoslavia was part of the USSR and admit to never hearing of Croatia or the other five nations until my early twenties. Thank you .
Well, that's kinda disturbing...
Aleksandar Micin ?
@johnnie anon nothing to do with the soviets after ww2.
Same, I thought all Eastern Europe was part of USSR
Because your media is a liar and keeps you in the dark, like all western media.
life in Yugoslavia was very good. it was like paradise.
Miss you Yugoslavia ♥️♥️♥️
Živeo Tito Živeo Tito
May Yugoslavia rise again one day.
Please no
Tito was a dictator and criminal, like all XX century dictators, like hitler, stalin, franco, mussolini...
Luca Riboni you westerners call all other statesmen a dictator. Listen: The so called dictator was popular all around the world and when he died, 120 presidents and other statesmen from all around the world came to his funeral, now tell me which of your“democratic“ leaders would accomplish that?
@@mifftiosan Hitler and Mussolini are called criminals in Germany and Italy. Why not the same with Tito in Serbia?
Luca Riboni because he is not a criminal, during his rule, people lived peacefully and hadn‘t to worry about anything look at today‘s serbia, infected by ultra religious orthodox politicians who don‘t care about their people
UK here, I visited Yugoslavia in 1988 on a school trip when I was about 16 or 17 and were staying for a week and I remember we had an amazing time. People were so friendly we went swimming in lakes, went to the theatre and visited some museums etc I also remember the weather being really nice and sunny. We went as part of our History study plus our teachers wife was from Yugoslavia so had links in the country. One of the reasons we went I think was to visit a socialist country that was not part of the Soviet Union or Soviet socialism. As I remember there was not a single thing i personally felt was different to any other western country, in fact we went on trains and busses that were all clean and modern - better than the UK at the time, certainly were I lived anyway. A year later we visited Moscow for a week, now there you knew you were in a one party communist state most definitely. People were still friendly in fact lots of people wanted to speak to us - but there were police and soldiers about and we also visited lots of statues and museums about Lenin and the revolution. I still had a great time, plus it was the first time I ever got really drunk on vodka 😝 ha ha!
PRVI KOMENTAR! WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
We want the video about history of Croatia!
Of course, there are several videos about Croatia's history, nature, tourism and culture in preparation :)
I want it, I want it, I want it
I visited Yugoslavia and came back a shot time ago. What a beautiful nation. What a sad story of one people turned apart by crazy nationalism and by criminals along with external intervention (I see no real differences in Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks). I wish you guys would build Yugoslavia again. Maybe Slovenia is better off outside of Yugoslavia but all the other nations are full of poverty, hatred, borders and different currencies. I hope one day the young people in all of these nations will make Yugoslavia great again, with Slovenia or without it. Slovenia wasn't really effected by the war and has been blooming ever since 1991. What you can't say about the other nations of Yugoslavia. Long live Yugoslavia.
She was very pleasing to listen to, I wasn’t expecting that from such an area with much conflict.
Visited Croatia in July. Great country to visit. Would visit again if the opportunity presents itself.
Bok Sandra 😀 Gracias por compartir este video de tu mamá y su vida en la antigua Yugoslavia... Este país, deportivamente hablando, fue una potencia deportiva 😀, sobretodo en baloncesto y fútbol, la otra vez comentaba con un amigo si no se hubieran separado, mi respuesta fue, creo que ya hubiesen ganado varios mundiales 😀 Gracias y saludos para ti y tu mamá 👍
Greatings from Scandinavia, the realisation of what you tried to acheave, i have heard from a serbian.
When we are questioned what our nationality is, I say Yugoslav, even if all my grandparents were ethnicaly clear Serbs. USA destroyed our freedom, supporting pro fascistic organisations and politics. I really low Tito, but he had only 1 fault, what is deviding the Banate of Serbia into a non existent nationalities like Bosniaks, Montenegrins, and Macedonians, who were always considered as a Serbs, if he didnt do that SRY or Yugoslavia(Serbia) would win Yugoslav wars and we would all now live in peace.
Samo za vasu informaciju: moj čukun deda je bio prvi srpski ucitelj u regionu oko Kumanova, na njegovoj povelji od kralja je pisalo: …da širi srpstvo..’ zasto bi sirio srpstvo, ako su to bili Srbi..njegov sin, moj pradeda, je produzio uciteljstvo, i svi su ga voleli, a u njegovom dnevniku je pisalo da je poducavao ‘makedonski narod’, a u jednoj knjizi pise da su moga pradedu voleli Makedonci, zato sto ih nije pokusavao asimilirati, KAO DRUGI UCITELJI U REGIONU…trebate vise uciti etnologiju i svedostva predaka da biste dosli do istinu o istoriji..u Egejskoj Makedoniji je vrsen nenormalan teror nad makedonskim narodom koji je ziveo, a njini potomci jos uvek zive, i ‘tiho’ govore svoj makedonski jezik, toponimi su makedonski, i zavrsavaju na -ovo, kao svako mesto u Makedoniji, itd itd, tako da ne slusajte sta vam vasi prijatelji Grci tvrde..njih su im drzavu dali Germaci i Britanci, i su se naselili iz Male Azije u celom danasnjem regionu Makedonija
Muchas gracias por el video! Soy peruano, pero no sé por qué tengo ese sentir de "Yugonostalgia", y el comienzo fue desde las Olimpiadas de Sarajevo 84, que las amo demasiado, y el SynthPop Yugoslavo, bandas como: Romantične Boje, La Card, Max & Intro and so many others! 🇵🇪❤️
Greetings from China! Yugoslavia was the best friend of China. The time without comrades from Yugoslavia is tough! We miss that time and your lovely country ! We have became the last evil for US and his alliance....
Don't forget Vietnam & Cuba, socialist fraternity!
@@DogsOnAcid Chia is already capitalist... There are huge gap between rich and poor. So we lost lots of old friends,such as the friends from the 3rd world .We changed our mind and terrified the other..
Honestly Yugoslavia was cool with everyone, except for Stalin
What lovely Sisters. Im fascinated with that part of the world.
Where were you when Yugoslavia die
I was at house praising Tito's work when phone ring
"Yugoslavia is kill"
"не"
@Goran Kukulj wut, you still can praise someone who is dead you know
@Goran Kukulj the Buddha died 2500 years ago, your point?
@Göran K how the fuck did he died 6 years before Yugoslavie collapsed if he died in 1980. and Yugoslavia collapsed in 1991.?
thank you both and all the best to your mom.
Mila moja Yugoslavia, nashi brati i sestri, volim vi !!! Pozdravi ot Bulgaria
Ljubim te :)
Pozdrav iz Slovenia 😎 👌🏻
Hey 🌹
Pozdrav iz crne gore !
I am New Zealand maori. My lineage also includes Slavic. I'm interested..
That war would never have happened if Slovenia and Croatia were not recognized as independent from the west!
You're kind of missing the root cause of the war...
@@Tipko What is that?
@@halon7476 the question is rather why did Croatia, Slovenia and Bosnia want independence in the first place.
@@Tipko Why? Because they hear the word "Democracy " and believe that the grass is greener on the other side..now they complain about government corruption, immigration, very high taxes and the European union (Britain is Brexit next year..they hate it)
@@halon7476 That is not completely true. Problem was more related to the fact that, after Tito's death, Yugoslavia should've had a co-joint leadership but one side, Serbia, started overtaking leadership roles, placing Serbs to power, something not appreciated by the other states. Take that in combination with a bad economy (Yugoslavia had a huge debt and decrease in productivity after the peak in the 70's),a situation where, just like in today's EU, some states were net payers (Slovenia, Croatia), some balanced (Bosnia) and some net receivers (Montenegro, Serbia and Macedonia).
Slovenia and Croatia initially wanted a redistribution of power but when they could not gain this the whole country ended up in a collapse.
I'm a Yugo-nostalgic myself and do miss Yugoslavia-days but unfortunately it's probably better not going back to the same situation as before (just before the war). Today's situation is not good enough, I completely agree with you there. Ex-Yugoslavian countries have a huge potential (industrial experience and know-how, low wages and being geographically in Europe). If they could get the politics working and change to a more industrial mindset, they have a huge gain to reap.
2:23 Well actually Yugoslavia was formed in 1918 as Kingdom of Serbs Croats and Slovenes SHS and renamed in 1922 in Kingdom of Yugoslavia ,
1929
nope 1929 king alexandar karadzordezevic was furious becuse he shooted half of parliment and there were still arguments becuse of wich country name should be first so he decided to make it yugoalavia so 1929 becuse he was shoot in 1934 in marsail France.
@@hmcccpp The name of the kingdom which was in existence since 1918 known as the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenians, was officially changed to the Kingdom of Yugoslavia in 1929. It is more appropriate to say Yugoslavia started in 1918 since the actual concept of the nation started then.
@@universalconquest4447 he said it was (officialy) renamed in 1922, wich it wasnt, it was in 1929
@@hmcccpp My bad, just saw what happened here LOL!
Amazing video! Just loved it!
This is very informative. ❤
You are too sweet Sanda. I wish you were my croatian teacher
Btw, my great grandfather was croatian. My grandfather was a christian lebanese; and his grandfather was a Croatian priest who went to live to Lebanon to exercise his priesthood in a church of Beirut. (I am colombian)
great videos, such a tragedy that Socialist Yugoslavia came to an end
I’m a young socialist from the US and when I’ve been learning about socialism, Marxism, anarchism, and communism for a long time now. I’ve been a socialist for half my life and I’ve researched Yugoslavia for half of that time. The break up of Yugoslavia absolutely breaks my heart. I would not want to recreate the Soviet Union and actually think it wasn’t that much of a loss for socialism EXCEPT for the fact that I think that the fall of the USSR allowed Yugoslavia to be destroyed. One of the biggest parts of the tragedy is that most people here in the US are so uneducated that they have NO IDEA what it was like or that it even existed. One day the world will see many more market socialist states in the west!
Congratulations y'all both for having shared such interesting things
I have explored the region so far. I lived Bosnia and Herzegovina the most. The loveliest people in the region.
You don’t know the value of things until it’s gone. The only thing that puzzled me was; all these educated and professional people; why? Why allow something to collapse when great things are happening? Why?
Very interesting video. I've always been fascinated by the former Yugoslavia, and the new place it's become. I've only ever been to Slovenia, but I'd like to visit the rest of the former Yugoslavia some day..
How are you doing
My uncle and aunts time was not fun in Bosnia... 😪
Lijep video! Nadam se da je mama dobro, to je najbitnije. Pozdrav
Bok Sanda! How interesting this video. Thank you for do it!
I think Yugoslavia enjoyed the best of both worlds east and west. Playing on the political tensions between Soviet and western powers.
They got drunk after each day of working or already in between and then would fight at home while we were kids. Thats one thing i remember for sure being born in Yugoslavia.
Veliki pozdrav iz Holandi! Ja sam bio jedan put U Rijeci! Divan grad!
My Uncle is from Croatia
Actually, Yugoslavia was formed after the IWW in 1918 as a kingdom
That system and lifestyle was a thorn in kapitalist west Tourists were visiting Yugoslavia and asked themselves how come we dont get same services and lifestyle
Had to be destroyed
With compliments of US and Western Europe they created 6 Bandustans
@johnnie anon The GDP is same now as it was during socialism But the difference now the social system is broken old people searching for bottles in garbage bins to earn few lipas
Not sure about the other 5 Bandustans but in Croazia things are grimm
I’d rather be starving and cold than have no freedom of expression and upward elevation. Looked like a bad war from t.v news in the early nineties and I hope things get much better.
@@whatseemstobethematter2992 Its quite obvious you know ZERO about life in Yugoslavia
I wonder what compells people to show their ignorance
@@whatseemstobethematter2992 Yugoslavia wasn’t like the other Eastern bloc countries, they kept the Soviets out and did their own thing. Iirc it was actually quite similar to the US there before the feces hit the fan
Hola sanda! Mi bisabuelo era de Yugoslavia, de lo que sería actualmente grabovac en Croacia. Vino a la Argentina a buscar una vida mejor, se casó con una mujer austriaca y tuvieron su descendencia, mi abuelo también se casó con una mujer croata aquí en la Argentina. Actualmente estoy queriendo tramitar la ciudadanía pero se me está complicando porque en la zona en donde nació mi bisabuelo hubo una guerra contra los serbios y se quemaron las iglesias con ella toda su documentación. De todas maneras quiero seguir aprendiendo sobre su cultura e idioma, es sumamente interesante. Gracias!!!!!
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My grandmother started receiving her retirement money after Croatia became independent, during the Yugoslav regime she did not receive a penny. That's how Yugoslavia worked at least for the croats.
Apartments were given to people for free just like that, I don't think so , maybe through the prosperous companies they worked for, after many years being employed there. If you explain things of that nature, then do it correctly .Statement that everyone were getting free apartment from the state is definitely not true, maybe the chosen ones high government officials and their cronies
My dad was given an apartment and he was definitely not a high ranking official or anything like that. As a matter of fact, he still has it to this day and we've been living in the US since 1984.
When I talk to my parents about Yugoslavia, they have nothing but fond memories about it. I believe that things started falling apart after the death of Tito in 1980. We were gone before things got bad in the early 90s and some of the former republics are still recovering from the break up. I don't know the details about the break up of Yugoslavia, but from my understanding, it was a country that was greater than what it has turned into(separate individual countries).
Živjela Jugoslavija. 😊
nino210 my grandfather was given a house for close to nothing as he described to me, but the biggest issue was he got it close to for free because he was part of the communist party. Anyone who wasn’t part of the communist party or who followed a religion was treated like scum and was looked down upon.
@@nino210
Apartment was given to your dad most likely through the company that he worked for many years and not for his good looks. I was not talking about actual politics and the prosperity of the country , I guess certain things were fine second half of 60s, 70s and the beginning of the 80s till they ran out of steam (money). By praising a dead horse is fine longest it is not exaggerated .
If Yugoslavia was all milk and honey it would still exist in some form and your dad wouldn't have left. Politics and management buried the country than as politics, management, theft,corruption and cronyism are burying most of remnants. Thank God you're not there, by the way my father says he had a beautiful dog 45 years ago . ZIVJEO PAS
@@bayridge3569 He was given an apartment in Zagreb after serving for the army in Beograd as a musician. From my understanding it wasn't because he was special or anything although his looks may have had something to do with it. 😉
@@nino210
It was some type of arrangements for sure, apartments were not given out like candy. In your dad's case it was army career, army and all branches of police were on the top of pecking order.(authority and power) Army and police had a lot of privileges in that society everyone knows that, and for the most of the people that got their apartment is long career in companies they've worked.
a talk most parents should have with their children...
La historia de los pueblos eslavos y de Yugoslavia en particular es demasiado interesante. Después de leer "Un puente sobre el Drina" de Ivo Andric, pude tener una idea mas precisa de las grandes riquezas culturales que han de encontrarse en esas comarcas donde históricamente han vivido los eslavos del sur. Ojala y algún día sea posible subtitular este video en español Sanda. Un caraqueño que tiene tiempo investigando sobre ustedes los balcánicos lo agradecería mucho... Te saludo por tu trabajo en pro del multiculturalismo en este año 2021. Espero seguir aprendiendo algo de Croata viendo tus videos.
I encourage everyone to read "NATO In The Balkans: Voices Of Opposition" by Ramsey Clark, Sara Flounders and others (1998), to better understand the situation in Ukraine and be able to anticipate future events.
Hi, I'm making a video series about life in former socialist societies, and was wondering if you or your mother would consider doing an interview for it? It would be greatly appreciated. I'm looking for people who have personal accounts, but stories from parents or grandparents are also greatly appreciated.
The video series is going to, hopefully, try to detail the differences between the various different societies, in an attempt to display that socialist theory, in practice, was not monolithic in nature. We're planning on 10 videos of 10-15 minute length. Each one detailing a particular person's stories of life in socialist society.
Please and thank you.
Hope you succeed doing your video. I'm Libertarian Socialist and I think it would be interesting. ;)
@@philippe5947 are you? I am as well. Syndicalist that sometimes thinks I might be democratic confederalist curious. Haha.
@@codyofathens3397 Idk much about Democratic Confederalism, what is it?
@@philippe5947 Murray Bookchin's philosophy as seen through a Rojavan lense. Lol.
@@philippe5947 Basically, it's the idea of syndicalism, but within local communities as well as in the workplace. Kind of like council communism meets syndicalism, but depending on who you're talking to, it runs the Gambit, economically, from mutualism to full communism.
My dad's name was Steve Biscan. My birth certificate says im Yugoslavia . im interested in knowing more about Yugoslavia. I am unable to connect with my father.
Wooooow i am a yuguslav muslim and my dad was in yugoslav army and armija bih
You cannot call yourself Yugoslav if your dad was in the separatist anti-Yugoslav army aka 'Armija BiH'.
@@universalconquest4447 of course you can? Sadly when Bosnia and Herzegovina was invaded by “FR Yugoslavia” aka VRS forces, what were we gonna do? Accept being occupied? I loved Yugoslavia,but unlike people blaming Serbia for the break up (it still was a majority of Serbias fault), it was mostly the people being brainwashed by politicians who already had planned the breakup following Marshal Tito’s death. At the start of the Bosnian war, ARBIH was a humble military group, however and sadly, nearing the end, we became a mockery, a wannabe mudzahedin separatist group, a true shame for our people, hopefully one day we will solve the effects of the wars that happened with nationalism out the way, then and only then can the balkans start co operating, and a re unification is a whooole other story
@@matijakovacevic5798 The JNA was stationed in all the republics of Yugoslavia before the war even started so how can it invade them? The only people responsible for the war and downfall of Yugoslavia are the Slovenian, Croatian, and Muslim seperatist movements which were financed by hostile external forces in order to destabilize and dissolve the Federation. The sole purpose for the creation of the 'Armija BiH' was to break away from Yugoslavia using military means. Alija Izetbegovic was the highest on the chain of command in 'Armija BiH' with the power to overrule any decisions made by generals. Izetbegovic republished his essay titled the 'Islamic Declaration' in 1990 (2 years before the war in BiH) in which he urges Muslims to radicalize and establish Islamic rule and law in BiH, this was an obvious threat to the Christian majority (Orthodox and Catholics) and the socialist order. It is an oxymoron to call yourself a Yugoslav if your allegiance was and is to the 'Armija BiH', it is like calling yourself an American in 1814 while fighting alongside the British to undermine the American nation. Croatia and Bosnia are now puppet states and colonies of the West, similar to their status during the German ruled Austro-Hungarian Empire.
Život u jugosla iji je bio puno bolji nego danas
Life in yugoslavia was way better then life today on blakan
Za četnike
,naj bolji.
@@antenekic4690 Brate ja sam komunista, ne četnik
The life itself was great back then for that time,legit everything. :)
You couldve afford whole vecation on our sea for whole family,with 5-6 payments you couldve get yourself a brand new yugo 45-which was an amazing thing to get back then.
People had money to actually afford a fucking bread every single day,meanwhile we cant say the same for today's day.
Better system,abnormaly huge military power. Probably top 3-5 in each sport.With an economy we were at the top in the world,we were pure POWER in Europe,just like in the whole world.
We all know that those 3 presidents fucked up us because of the money and because they were told by the US and the rest to do it,we all know back then whole west side was scared of how truly Yugoslavia was powerful.Yugoslavia was a country that people from the outside wanted to live in and build a good future for their family. We had everything,now we (Croats) have HDZ with tons of destroyed companies,destroyed families,almost a half of a milion people left but hey..we have HDZ...and 200 rich families.But im pretty sure the rest of the countries arent doing any better.
Such a shame people were dumb enough to kill their brothers by the blood by the history.Best of luck everyone from ex Yu with building their future in this shitty place..in the end..good people and beautiful nature.
To je ono najgore, što su ljudi tek tako pljunuli na grobove svojih predaka, koji su živote dali kako bi stvorili zajedničku zemlju. Komšije, kumovi, prijatelji su pucali jedni na druge se mole drugom Bogu i zato što su "zli" Srbi/Hrvati/Bosanci. To je najveća tragedija, što su dozvolili da im tako isperu mozak i pretvore se u životinje. Ta država nije bila savršena (tako nešto nigde ne postoji), ali je sistem bio neuporedivo humaniji u odnosu na današnjeg Frankenštajna. Svi kukaju na komunizam, ali se bune kada im oduzmeš neke tekovine tog istog sistema. Postali smo izvor jeftine radne snage, a naše "nezavisne" vođe rasprodaju nekadašnje privredne gigante i prirodne resurse, i sve to predstavljaju kao nekakve strane investicije, i još se time ponose. Meni je žao što smo mi u Srbiji isporučili Miloševića Hagu, trebali smo da obesimo to govno u centru Beograda, zbog svih sranja koja su izazvali nacional-boljševik i njegova luda žena sa cvetom u kosi. A znaš li ko je prao pare za Miloševića i njegove falange? Hrvati. Kao što su Srbi prali pare Hrvatima. To nisu nikakve teorije zavere, sve to ima dokumentovano Domagoj Margetić, jedan od retkih ljudi koji imaju hrabrosti da istražuju kako nas je gamad opljačkala.
Pozdrav iz okupacione zone Srbija
You are absolutely right the yonger generation have no idea what they have lost it's the greatest tragedy. But hey they got their capitalism and so called democracy so let them enjoy! FOOLS!!
I would love to learn about Croatia and Rijeka in particular before world war one with the Hapsburgs and Austro-Hungarian Empire.
That is an interested topic.
Hello Sanda, Hello Nela,
Such a nice story ... Too Bad it is not true though.
Jugoslavija was formed after World war 1 (so NOT after WW2).
And it was renamed in 1929.
It really sounds interesting ... Like some sort of a fairytale ... But, sadly, it is not what was going on in Jugoslavija.
Education was free, but the percentage of illiterate people was around 50% until 1970's !
Health care was free. You are right about that. We did NOT have so many doctors or specialists ... But it was OK.
Homeless people might have been rare in Croatia, but I was born and raised in a slum in Jugoslavija. So there were no houses or apartments for my family and many families in Belgrade, Nis, Leskovac etc.
Jobs were available ONLY for those that supported Communists and were members of their party.
Romani population (around 5-10% of total population) was living out of "thin air".
Why would a country with 0% crime rate have a jail or a prison ?
Some people were allowed to have MUCH more than a planned minimum ;)
Other than this ... Thank you for sharing your experience (it is NOT true but it is nice to hear your opinion).
Miss Sanda, Miss Nela, you are beautiful.
Peace.
Pozdrav iz argentina!!!!!