It's Sounds Like You Don't Want to Work!
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We don’t want to retire at 60 like most folks do. We want to retire at 40-45 and be able to enjoy life. There, I said it for him.
Get a job you enjoy and you never work a day in your life.
That's perfectly fine, as long as you've planned properly for it and you're adequately funded.
The problem is when young people chase the dream and end up relying on others to PAY FOR IT.
instaBlaster
AMEN
I thought he was shooting for 30…
My freshman year engineering class I realized, if I continue on this path I will be inside the rest of my life. So I changed paths. Agriculture brought me satisfaction and money.
Smart move!
Agriculture plus computer engineering is the future.
Explain if you don't mind. How does one make a financially successful life with ag? I am being genuine as I'm in college right now.
In UK we are crying out for engineers
Here I am outside most days and I think all too often of how I could have been inside at a desk but I decided to work in construction and maintenance lol we are all different. This caller is looking for a way to spend less time working without losing income. He just didn’t know how to say it. But the only answer to that question is to earn more in less time and be in a situation where you get to choose how often you work. There’s no perfect plan for an individual who doesn’t know what he wants to be doing just that he wants to do less of what he is doing now lol
Sounds like he’s been told what career he should pursue, but he really wants to be a park ranger
Good thing someone told him, cuz park ranger would make 20k a year
@@innocentrage1 you can make like 45 50 with state Benny's that's not terrible if you love the outdoors.
I was thinking that!
I think he should join the military though, either active or reserve. If he doesn’t like that it will be a relatively straight shot to becoming a park ranger.
Park ranger. Omg. Lol.
exactly
At 24 years old I was making $11/hr and lost. This guy is pretty fortunate to be in the position that he is in. Sounds like he's bored with his life if you ask me.
I wouldn't say he is fortunate, I think he worked hard to get to where he is, but he just thought it would be different once he climbed the mountain. But he is releasing the top of the mountain was an illusion it keeps going up
@@ericsandoval2683 well said.
@@ericsandoval2683 once a goal is achieved it becomes a burden
Desk jobs are a grind. Sad fact is 80% of people are unsatisfied by their job.
Hes got money but he's not enjoying it. Its understandable if you can't afford a life but he can. Hes needs a vacation.
Sounds like he needs a hobby.
He has a good paying job, but needs an outlet.
Agreed....I went through that feeling in my career
100%
100% agree... dude got to a point where he realizes that work is taking life away from him, feeling like he is throwing his life away....
He needs a race car.
@@lucienpayne9552 🤣🤣
A perfect candidate to go backpacking in Europe.
🤣
He was so used to his college days. Class every other day, weekends off and now he's in the real world
Lol. So true. If he was a hipster, he'd be going to South America.
I'm not a hipster and I am about to turn 27. When I was 24, I still longed for my college days of some freedom and staying up late every night talking with friends, so I get it. I am sure he will relax and be fine and adjust.
Met a few of those idiots throughout the yrs. They all end up frustrated and just not progressing.
He could just go outside more often in his off time, utilize vacation time, get an outdoor hobby. Maybe he just needs balance & needed someone to spell it out for him.
Sounds like it to me. Does he ever take a vacation? He makes enough. We all need a break from the work life. Sounds like he needs a break.
He should go into agriculture of some sort create a programming business that he can work on his own time & have freedom
@@workliferecognition7002 what vacation? employers don't allow vacation anymore! Or rather, they offer "unlimited PTO," but strongly discourage them from using it via guilttripping.
@@workliferecognition7002 Americans don't get a lot of vacation time though. He sounds like he needs a month long vacation and travel around.
@@erubin100 I know right? Especially in America they don't do vacations. Other countries I notice they take like 4-6 weeks off a year but in America its zero maybe 2-3 at the odd place.
I'm 21 and making $18.75 and pretty happy to go make money, but I'd be happier to go to work for $90k a year.
Well, find a career that you're interested in that will pay 90k. Nice goal 👍.
Coding is pretty simple, there are coding boot camps online and it's a very undersaturated field.
@@professionalcasual9871 it’s definitely not simple and actually the complete opposite of unsaturated. Source - I’m a software engineer
@@jay-wf3ft lol
@@jay-wf3ft truth. As an entry level software engineer, there will be many days of just banging your head against a door trying to solve a bug. But it depends on what type of thing you're working on.
I’m a doctor. I don’t like everything about the job but I like it enough to keep doing it. It pays well enough to save money and have some hobbies. For me it was music. His best bet is to have a well paying job and use his spare time to do what he feels like doing.
Right but that is the one thing that some like this caller don't get . You let your day job pay for what you love doing 👍🏼
You're not a doctor
Working for someone sucks. It sucks your soul away. This guy is a prime example.
for most people, it's better than working for yourself and struggling at the point to become homeless.
@@guillaumejuillard8258 basically life is garbage either way it goes
@@Brandon-tz5pn yes indeed. I wish someone told me this when i was 20 or even 15...
It can, but it doesn't have to be a big deal. Sometimes it's more about not having anything to look forward to outside work, not having the right work/life balance
There is no winning formula. Struggling to get a business going is also soul-sucking. If you're struggling to stay motivated and engaged at work I bet you'll also slack off when you "work for yourself". We're on this earth to be tested and grow. I think it's a normal part of life.
He should look into the FIRE movement. A lot of software engineers maximize their incomes and savings and retire early. Then he can spend all day outside. Making 90k at 24 he can probably do it if he tries
Exactly . Look at his options .
People are tired of running the hampster wheel.
Tired of providing for themselves. Imagine a lion being tired of hunting, or a bovine being tired of grazing.
LOL
@@trvth1s Humans have evolved to hunt and gather, we're not evolved to work in a factory all day or sit at a desk filling in spreadsheets.
@@UltimateIrishRebel you're welcome to go back to that lifestyle, no one will stop you. There are plenty of natural reservations. Just don't expect the luxuries of modern society.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
@@UltimateIrishRebel Would you seriously prefer to go back to the Stone Age?
@@kirapoodle I'm sure there are plenty of ranches looking for help. There is enough outdoor work for all the bored office staff. These youngsters need a dose of reality.
He said he want to be outside with his friends, not WORK outside 😂😂
He wants easy money doing nothing 🤣
@@rogers5622don’t we all
Well some people don’t wanna live to work what joy or happiness is in that people need to get tf outta the house and actaully have a life outside of work
I don't want to work because working 9to5 is a pain - PERIOD
I like this kid. He’s on the verge of reprogramming his brain so that he’s not still brainwashed by society and the school system that you DO have to sit at a desk in a cubicle and work for the rest of your life. And if you’re a computer engineer working for a large company that’s what you’re gonna do. You’re a cog in the wheel.
I say keep pushing. Read books. Open your mind. Don’t do what everyone else is doing.
Yes, but the question is how you extract money and resources from others. An easy way of doing that is working at a desk.
@@marudoethiopia Read. Watch videos. Read blogs.
@@Fedgery007 what are you doing for a living that’s outside the norm? Genuinely curious
@@Fedgery007Yup. Watching videos and reading blogs is how you build wealth. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
There’s a reason that a janitor or someone with a very low pressure job is often happier than a CEO making hundreds of thousands of dollars. Life is not all about $$
^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^
Except you can't have a life without it. Having no money is also stressful.
Pretty sure I'd be much happier as the CEO. Grift for a few years and be set for life! The janitor probably has to work his whole life.
@@larsc888 not necessarily. I know people making hundreds of thousands a year who are tapped out. It’s all about how you live.
@@dr.bradshaw Sure, but the smart ones dump their money in an "FU Fund", quit once funded, and live the good life in the tropics in their 40s. The janitor likely has to work till he/she has health issues and die penniless. Again, I rather be a tapped out 40 year old multi-millionaire chilling in the Bahamas than a 40 year old janitor who's still renting.
“Sounds like you don’t want to work” yeah, most people don’t WANT to. They HAVE to.
...every living being has to work to survive or it will be prematurely consumed by nature...
Gotta work to know reward. Every animal works why shouldn't we? God works as well.
@@onyx_might72 yes, we should all work… but not only work. Vacation and leisure are god given and should be valued just as much
@@onyx_might72 We’re not animals or God.
You mean no one at the university told you when you get out of school it will still be boring long hours at your job? Regardless of pay
He needs to save like a madman now (Max 401k/Roth IRA/HSA) and save a couple thousand more a month in a taxable brokerage so he can retire early.
IUL
I sympathize with the aversion to typical jobs. I was a CPA but became a Marine and went to Naval Flight School. It was fulfilling and had variety. Later, when the Marines retired me, I had lived the life I wanted and desk work was OK because it was just a way to keep busy and get a few bucks. My life and space on the planet had been validated in Naval Aviation. The difficulty with that course of life is that ten or twelve of the guys I flew with didn't survive to retirement. The other satisfier in my life has been raising successful children and loving my grandchildren.
CPA to Navy flyer wow that is awesome!
This is why Reagan was right about Marines.
That is super inspiring. I hope someday I can look back on my life with the same sense of completion and pride that you have
He wants to make 90k a year to hang out outside with his friends.
U believe it ?
Nah. He needs an outlet. It sounds like he's in a mundane ritual of waking up, getting ready for work, coming home, being exhausted, rinse and repeat.
It's called weekends
Just become the president he makes that in his sleep with all the backdoor deals. Then again when will the president wake up.
To put myself through college, I worked manual labor jobs in retail and in restaurants for little pay. My job is partially a desk job and part away from my desk doing tech support for decent pay and benefits. I'm glad not to clear tables and mop floors anymore. I feel lucky to have this type of work.
i think a lot of us feel like that. you like the field your in but hate working for a company with no freedom. we all want to work on our own terms when and where. thats what he’s implying at and i get it
I think he found out the kind of work he is doing is boring and unnatural to sit all day every day. I am in same boat. I am thinking about buying a farm and change my life.
He needs to realize that he is not stuck at that company . Move on to something more flexible .
People want to work on their own terms but there’s one catch , they are not signing the paycheck!
As a *new Software engineer* that *graduated recently* i understand where ur coming from. So you worked really hard to go to college. Worked hard to graduate. Then when u reach your goal of actually getting a good job. Then u realize that It feels like u worked so hard for more work.......
Don't forget that ur alive and live. Don't live the next decade to "pay your dues". Instead live to enjoy the options that u earned. A good salary. Great job. Amazing ppl around you. Heck you have alot of resources and oppurtunities accessible to you to make an amazing life out of
For some people it is hard to accept the realities of Life some people enjoy going to school and it gives them Direction and purpose and they know exactly what's expected of them and when they have to get stuff done and when you're in the Working World you don't necessarily have the same type of boundaries and then they start floundering
True, I'm going to graduate next month from Computer Engineering to start a Job on summer and that's the same mentality I have... maybe he just needs a partner in life who knows
@@Beyond_That0 Congrats on getting all that accomplished! It does help to have a partner on the same page too
Plus let's be honest NONE AND I MEAN NONE of us to want to go to work if given the choice
Sounds exactly like me after my first post-college job working in technology. It gets better. Pursue things that interest you in your spare time and maybe one of those interests will grow into something that will give you a feeling of purpose.
This is such a prime example of how people have been told what they need to pursue doing as a job based on their interests and skills. Asking “what do you love to do” instead of asking “how do you want to live?” Working so hard to climb a ladder only to find out that it’s leaning against the wrong building. I’m so thankful I’ve had access to people to guide me through pursuing values instead of a career path.
Got any advice?
Sounds like you just don't want to work bro. What you should do is focus on FIRE and trying to retire early. You're making a good money on the way to making great money. You can be a millionaire by your early 30s.
Definitely!
I love reading about FIRE in the comments!
Yea sounds like he just needs to invest heavily and buy his freedom from work. Invest in real estate and live off rental income so you can work part time and get more Free time. Or just take a pay cut right now and work less. Money ain’t everything
Yes, emphasis on this with a hobby he enjoys on the side to help him figure out what he likes outside of going out with friends. Build the person he is and whst he has to offer to those he wants to socialize with.
FIRE coming from what source?
I totally understand him. I hated 9-5 jobs in my 20's I felt like I was giving up my life. I'd rather work less hours or work for less money but not sitting down. I need to be outside, indoors is depressing for me.
But he doesn't want to give up that juicy stable income, which is the issue. It's possible, but he needs to rise above and become the boss or come up with that creative idea that keeps him rich financially and where he can pursue his own personal dreams.
@@Cookieboy70 exactly . He has to find a way to combine what he needs and what he wants .
i dont blame this kid. thinking about how you have to spend the best years of your life working behind a desk is depressing. american work life/balance is out of control
I blame your mentality
@@fkillah get over yourself bud
@@fkillah 👈 found the corp simp
@@Tempusverum 👈 found the beta
Always chuckle when I hear Dave say “you are not a victim of Capitalism.” Yeah, we all are lol.
I’m a truck driver and I work 60-70 hours a week. I would love to make $90K. Some people are so ungrateful and don’t know what hard work really is.
Correct. He is spoiled from an easy life and perhaps picked the wrong field.
@@jamese9283 I don’t have a problem at all with him making $90K. I just have a problem with people who don’t work as hard as me complaining about having a better lifestyle than me, when they don’t work half as hard as I and others do
Exactly. When I hear stories like this, all I can think is “WAH!”
@@JohnnyJPatt It does not matter how Hard you work it only matters how much value you provide
@@elsunshine9976 all I’m saying is, he should be more grateful for what he’s got for the amount of work he has to do. He could be doing much harder work for less money!
There is no such thing as a dream job. Instead focus on your life outside of work. Relationships, friendships, hobbies, etc.
I sit here at 41 and I like my job, but I love my life.
Agreed. Some occupations are truly not fit for certain people, but in general if you can earn enough money to pay all your bills and still have enough to enjoy life instead of having to be in a viscous cycle of running out of money every pay cycle just to pay day to day expenses, then you have the option to find happiness.
I disagree 100000% and this mentality is why so many people look forward to the weekend. Your greatest opportunity to do something great in the world is hugely invested into the 40-50 hours at your job - For you to take that casually and just 'put yourself into other things' is defeatist and sad. I want to throw up thinking about that life
Good on you, mate!
Such great advice, thank you.
This new generation values freedom more than anything. Most don’t see themselves at a 9-5pm for 20 years. I left my job at 24 to start my own business. I’m doing just fine. Just have a plan a trust God.
Alternative: If the job will allow you to work remotely, then work outside, work at the beach, coffee shop, a park or such. Changing the environment can make all the difference.
Good idea! Or work as a contractor.
No one wants to work, but having a full time job making 90k at 24 is amazing. You have so much time to pursue what you want to do in your free time and can even retire early. Meanwhile I have been working two jobs 80 hours a week for the past five years wasting my youth.
The thing with engineering or even some other careers is that the time passes quickly and you aren’t making that much more. The road from 24-65 is long. And I think many ppl still like working after 65.
Not "no one". Lots of people enjoy working. It helps define one's Life.
The grind will pay off brother
The reality is most people are not going to retire early. Many people are going to be working until they are 67-70.
@@diceportz7107 that’s sad
I think we all reach that point of "Oh my gosh, most of my life will be spent at work instead of with my friends and doing fun things!"
Everyone has to get over it at some point. Make the best of it but also don't see it as a curse. Having purpose and duty in life is necessary, not a curse.
he wants to be an Influecer and make RUclips videos all day like Dave. lol
It’s obvious to anyone else that has this same goal
That’s what I think too. He hangs out with influencers and wants someone to back him up, but is afraid to say it.
RUclips is a scalable job but only if you can get views.
What he really wanted to say was "well...I honestly just wanna get hammered with my friends instead of working" lol
Yep. He thought life was like college, now hes actually worn out after a work week and doesnt have the energy to go to the bar every night when he has to wake up for a 9-5 structured job
🤣🤣He thinks he is missing out while they are slacking
I'm a software engineer who worked remotely from Mexican beaches for companies in the USA. No income tax (digital nomad) and I live where I want to. I just work from wherever. It was magnificent.
If you’re a US Citizen, there’s no such thing as “no income tax” even if you work in another country. You’re still liable to the IRS.
@@brandonk1097 well, good luck to the IRS to find the money this guy owes them
How do I get to this point?
I’m a HVAC service technician and love my work. Every day I am in a new place and there are new challenges for me to figure out. I’m almost never bored at work. If you feel unfulfilled at work, it’s most likely because you’ve gotten comfortable and are no longer being challenged. Gotta find that next step in your current industry or maybe you’re in the wrong industry. Just my opinion based on my own life experiences.
Amen brother, I’m a fellow HVAC tech as well
I wish I did this I hate my job right now also.
I wish I was HVAC too. Several of my buddies do HVAC, they make bank and love the work.
I’m starting HVAc school in the fall 😎
I mean he’s 24 out of college sounds like he has a new job and should still find challenges in it. But when you say I want to be out with friends sounds like you don’t want to work.
I wanted out of my 9-5 job when I was in a toxic work environment and underpaid.
Now I love my job where I feel appreciated and do important work. I don't rush out the door at closing time or watch the clock tick away all day. I measure my day in achievements now, not minutes.
Sound pretty nice. Would like to know what field you working on !
@@dng2393 Taxes and accounting. Sounds fun, right? I love numbers and solving problems.
accounting? isn’t that 9-5?
@@AC-ri2ph she still probably works a standard schedule but sounds like the difference is she actually likes her job now :)
@@chocolatte8301 Exactly. Doing 9-5 doesn't feel like serving a sentence when you enjoy the work and see the value.
Sounds like hes pursuing what hes been told he should instead of doing what he actually wants because of fear of judgment
Actually no one really knows what they want in life. It's just the outcome of circumstances you faced. Also some people want something but don't know how are they gonna get it and seriously there is not a one roadmap to those things.
@@punittripathi3355 I’ve been thinking of this lately . The circumstances people face is what makes that person the way that they are. Very interesting to me . I also have been thinking about how many possibilities and outcomes that could have been for my life and I realize that I may not have had the same outcome in life without the stresses and obstacles that I used to think that were in my way of where I wanted to go.
And fear of making less than 90K a year doing something that is hard and indoors because not many people want to do it, hence why hes being paid 90K
Honing his skills for a couple of years and then branching out as a freelance developer might be a good option for him. He gets to work remotely and establish his own hours. A digital nomad, as the term goes. Good luck!
I think Dave nailed it at the end.
I don't necessarily think this guy is inherently lazy. I just think that for the first time in his life he is working a normal job..and it's work.
Previously he's been in classes in college and in between classes he probably did all kind of different things.
Not that he didn't work hard in college but it's just different. It's a different way of life.
So I think Dave is right that he is for the first time in his life getting used to what it's like to have to go to work everyday.
But he doesn't like his work I think he was forced by his parents to work
He needs to pursue creative things like do what he enjoys
He didn’t choose what he loved. He’s a smart guy who went for a safe reliable career choice.
Well if your gonna go into debt, not a bad choice. Of course i am in the same situation where i am pursing work i say i love without actually loving it.
Choosing what you love will usually leave you broke. Not always, but usually
At 24 my boss asked me "What do you do all day"? If I got asked that ten years later I'd say "Whatever I want"! Investing, diversifying, living below your means and avoiding dumb debt is the best way to escape being a clock watcher.
I bet if he was jobless for a few weeks he’d be a lot more grateful for the position he’s in.
Pretty sure he was jobless for the past 23 years sooooo
A good point when we decide something is missing in life we ignore the things we already have and focus only on the one we didn’t have but strange it’s only because you have money in your pocket you are able to think the missing things in life.
That's like saying if I kick you in the nuts. I bet you forget about your headache 😏
ok boomer
Stay in your lane. This for successful people only.
As someone who is a little over 2.5 years into being a Computer Engineer... sitting at a desk staring at a screen all day sucks. I didn't realize how much of an effect it would have on my mental health.
What do you do outside of work?
@@kizzyjem I bake and cook in my free time. I try to stay away from hobbies that require me to be glued to a screen.
@@alexise5376 so quit ur job and find new one where you dont have to be glued at the screen. noone is making u to work ur job.
@@edgehodl4832 lol sure I'll just quit my job in the middle of a pandemic.
@@alexise5376 we r free to do whatever we want, historically there are more opportunities and choices than there ever were, so if it feels tough now what do u think it was like a thousand years ago when social mobility travel choices education etc were all for the elite only. We r so spoiled and do we appreciate it - NO. we just moan about the downsides, however minor they r.
Dude makes 90k year. If he doesn’t wanna work should start saving like crazy and throw money at real estate. He could retire before 40 no problem.
Kids making great money. Just find out what he wants and go after it and be grateful every day.
I feel really bad for this kid. I was a programmer/software engineer in my 20s too, and it's hard for people who haven't been there to understand what it does to your brain and personality when you do it for years on end. The fact that he's not able to give good answers to their questions is a symptom of precisely that!
So it deadens ur personality? U become dry & boring? I'm just wondering
@@QuietlyCurious You become better at communicating with computers than people, because you spend more time with the machines. You lose your ability to give and receive social cues, or that stays stuck at the high school level. Sometimes you kind of lose touch with your own feelings in a way that's difficult to describe. I'm not saying it's inevitable but those are definitely occupational hazards. Being told that not being able to articulate your problem means you don't have a problem, definitely doesn't help.
@@oneeyedman99 Oh ok gotcha, gotcha. Ya know, I was in the military age 18-24 and I can relate. Working for so many hours especially at that age when time drags and within such a particular isolated environment, yeah I can understand the effects of that ☹️
@@oneeyedman99 I'm thinking about going into tech. I live in the country and like to keep it that way. Unfortunately, I have to drive an 1.4 hours to get to work. Everyone told me to get into tech when I was 20 because I'm good with computers. Now that i'm 25 I'm thinking about taking the dive to work remote. Any advice?
I'm a social person but I get seriously worn out interacting with people. If I get a long vacation when I come back in I'm stressed to talk to others. I'm worried if I work in computers I will lose my communication skills. I used to be homeschooled, took a lot of work to get myself normal. I can't tell if I'm realizing who I am as a person, someone who isn't social, or I'm retreating to what I know is comfortable.
I have some depression so I usually don't follow my heart. I just do what is best. Everyone tells you to follow your passion, but depression make passion bland work. At this point working remote, and good income is what I'm after. Any advice?
I rather have brunch with my girl everyday instead of being in an office working all the, but Bills are due every month and someone has to pay them.
What is wrong with him not knowing what his dream is? Why is this idea hard to grasp? When we go to school in the states, a lot of us are taught to find our place in society. During that journey, a lot of us tend to stop “dreaming” past grade school days and instead are prompted to start thinking rationally about stability. For some, rational thinking about stability still allows them to pursue a “dream”. For others, they go towards what they are good at. Is it a dream? Maybe not, but you are good at it. As an early careerist, I can empathize with his feeling of not knowing what his dream is. It requires soul searching and a lot of people don’t figure out their calling until later in life. His thoughts are valid about feeling like you’re in that repetitive cycle of “I can’t wait until Friday”. I suggest patience.
Invest 70%+ of your income now and retire in 8yrs.....boom done. You can play with friends like you want and never "have" to work again.
Invest in what?
@@Donutkommando stocks and feal estate
That is where I'm headed right now, I'm going to learn coding even though I might not like it but I know it pays well. Maybe do that for 10 years and then not have to worry about money as much and do what I want later on.
It sounds like he got it too good too soon. I couldn't find an entry-level job in my 20's. I had to work non-graduate jobs for minimum wage jobs for 2+ years...
No such thing as to soon we work our lives away and want to do other stuff not including work but when you have to work it away just to pay bills you get defeated
The transition from student to an adult career work life is a big adjustment!
Work will set you free kid
So will dieing lol. Work prisons people not sets you free.
@@DiamondScuff he works hard for max 10 years then he can retire and chill. Duh
@@dabd8175 Most people that work hard also have a tendency to spend hard. Since there is no short term gain. As well as no one is promised "10 years" In life. You could die tomorrow or in a year or maybe 40. But its definitely a factor. Live everyday with trying to be happy/joy.
The better question I heard once and will always remember is “How do you want to contribute to the world?” Then figure out how to use your current skills (or what skills you would need) to move in that direction.
What if you dont want to contribute to the world? lol.
@@DiamondScuff Then your life will be meaningless to everyone but yourself? Lol
This is probably the best advice I have heard. I'm 24 in the military and I'm ready to move on, too. I had the same questions, and I'm sticking to health care but going back to school for Physical Therapy. This is what I want for myself, not what others think is best for me.
I think he was pressured into saying he "loves" his job. He might love the work but doing it everyday 9-5 and sometimes under pressure with deadlines is what makes you say Thank God it's Friday, oh God it's Monday. I think that's normal and nothing to worry about as long as you don't feel that ALL THE TIME.
In every job I've ever had, it ends up being all the time after a while. The days where I love it are rare.
Uncle Dave’s face when he said he rather be out with friends 😂
He probably wants to travel the world and post on IG. As a software eng who travels the world (but doesn't post on IG), I would tell him to start a side gig as a freelancer, WHILE WORKING AT HIS 9-5 job. Once he's making a decent amount of money with his side gig, quit the 9-5 job and go travel.
Simple. The ladder is. Employed - self employed - business owner - investor
For what it's worth, I felt the same at my first computer programming job. What helped me gain perspective was becoming a consulting Software Engineer (i.e. coding for different large enterprises, but while working for a small consulting company). It let me visit various job sites, including military bases and bread factories. That may be the "getting out" aspect the caller needs, or may it just be rewarding to see your code used by real people one-on-one.
When I was in my early 20’s complaining about my job, my dad said “ You’re not supposed to love your job. You job is supposed to make you money so you can afford to do the things you love.” I hated that advice but it makes more sense as I get older. If everyone was honest, we would all admit that we don’t want to work. We want to have fun. It’s rare to find a fun job the pays a living. I make over $100k and don’t like my job, but I don’t hate it. I’ll keep doing it til I get to a point in life that I’m comfortable with what I got, then get my fun job. This is not advice for anyone but me.
I used to be one of those people who always studied because I legitimately liked it. As I grew older I realized passion will only take you as far as it is easy. If you want to be good at your job, you need discipline to push even when it becomes hard. Our society tries to tell people to do what they love when we should be telling them to do what makes them feel useful. You will do what gives you purpose even when you do not love it. It is worth the sacrifice since it is beyond yourself. Can you really say you wasted a day when you actually think the world is a better place because of your work? I will also expand that I legitimately think the best person to do a job one thinks is necessary is oneself.
He doesn't have any dreams or have some pie in the sky goal. He's a young person realizing he has another 40 years ahead of whatever he's doing. That is where he is lost. That is where many young professionals are.
Dude could honestly retire in 10 years making that much if he saves diligently.
Exactly this
that's pretty much capitalism
@@TheMpmpmpmpmpmp Completely agree. That is what I did, I retire in June. I'm 34.
@@TheMpmpmpmpmpmp I'm retired, my former employer pays $1400/mo and I pay $600/mo
for lifetime family medical.
Dude may have to pay $3K/mo for healthcare.
These clips are great training in so many ways. Young people need to listen to them none stop.
The young man sounds like he did what he was advised to do to earn a lot of money, but he never allowed himself to picture the future he wants. He went running after the what without knowing the why. He speaks so fast and is so intense, he ran ahead doing a lot of things and just woke up one day wondering what the heck he's doing. I think he needs counseling and career advice.
I wish I was advised to do anything to blindly make 90k/yr. I've never picked a job for the job or for the money.
$90k a year! That’s really good, and if he saves and invests, he can retire by 50 easily
His availability is on ωhatsapp
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If he is frugal and saves 60%+ age 40 easy. But most dont have that type of self discipline.
I’ll one up y’all and say if he lives at home with his parents for the rest of his 20s (pretty common these days) he might can even swing retirement in mid 30s. But of course it will take the ultimate amount of self discipline.
As long as you dont die by then, then yes. But no one knows the the ticker is going to go. So make sure to enjoy life now. Tomorrow is never promised.
At 24 the majority (18-20 years) of your life has been having the freedom of ‘playing outside’ mostly when you wanted...now you’re getting use to real life. Save and invest so in 20 years you build yourself freedom.
This is very common with programmers. I have worked with plenty of them, many companies just have them do mundane tasks like solve bugs when someone calls tech support. One thing some companies do to overcome this problem is let programmers do remote work. Don't listen to this "you have to pay your dues" BS, just go do the work you want to do now instead of waiting till you are 40 to go follow your dreams.
Depends on his skill set. There are a lot of "competent" coders out there who can't do real development, problem solving
Jobs just over broke
We all don’t want to work but you have to do what you have to do to support you and your family..
That's obviously not true. Why do the rich keep working? Have you ever asked yourself that?
@@wittenberg5 and the rich don’t work a 9-5 that’s for sure
@@richgenix In many cases they work more hours. At goldman sachs they are working 100 hour weeks! Elon Musk works 100 hour weeks and slept on the factory floor to make sure production goals were met.
@@wittenberg5 These people are absolute psychopaths tho. They're borderline non-human.
It's survival of the fittest. If your family can't support themselves, it is what it is.
I say “pay your dues” until you’re maybe 30 while you have this great income and use from now until then as a time to clarify what, specifically, your vision is for your dream career. From 24-30 might seem like a lifetime away, but I’m 31 and it flew by in the blink of an eye and it will for you too!
Agreed, if he has student loan debt work to pay those off and extra so he can set himself up to make a swap but without accruing more debt. $90k a year at 24 is phenomenal.
I'm 40 and time flies.
I'm looking at ways to take more time off myself.
I started working full time the day after I graduated. Aside from when I went to college I was working full time.
It wears on you mentally and physically.
But I have also been out of work due to medical issues for a few months.
And believe me being stuck at home is not rewarding.
I'd much rather work and enjoy my time off , it keeps you active too.
Shut up Karen
@@gregoireansari6651 My comment was actually encouraging the caller, so you’re using the insult of calling me a “Karen” incorrectly😂 Bless your little heart. Now run along and let the grownups have a mature conversation. Bye-bye!
@@jill9606 his got issues ignore him lol
He's just finished college, gotten his first real job and realized...It's Work!
OMG RIGHT 🤦🏻♀️ I hope this isn’t my daughter when she finishes
@@lauras627 well if it's her first real job, it might be.
Exactly- sounds like he misses college and wants to prolong his adolescence.
@@johnclifford1537 bingo- you are correct. Wants a prolonged college life.
Right ! Welcome to the real world ! We work and. Pay bills 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴
A lot of people in the younger generation feel like this. It almost feels a but like being a serf. I wish life was more about bartering instead of the rat race.
sounds like hippy thinking
They call it work for a reason lol
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His availability is on ωhatsapp
Lol wym
My neighbors had IT jobs, they had enough of being sitting down in a computer all day so they decided to go back to college and get a nursing degree, they looked very happy about their decision.
How old were they??
I am in nursing and I don't think its the answer either.. I can relate to his early burn out too. It boils down to personal goals based on your purpose for life
@@fredericksharon6908 early 30s
Lol, i work outside fitting gates and doing joinery, guess the grass is always greener on the other side.
P.s. i hate it.
Dang some ppl just don’t know how good they have it
The problem of the mentality that social media sell every hour…. Be an influencer and never have to work ever is “coolest” than be a doctor……
My dream is to be on House Hunters International, looking for a vacation home.
My profession is letting the breeze flow through my hair and the home budget is $2M
😊😆...
But seriously
Things are bad when House Hunters ain’t enough.
🤣🤣🤣
Can't wait for your episode 💞
I’m in the same position but at 32 and feeling the same way working in tech. That’s why I’m saving aggressively so I can have the option to leave.
@pdmrocker Ok??? What does that have to do with what she just said❓You just made a random statement that had nothing to do with anything
The only question I have is why would you get into an industry just so you can think about leaving it? I mean, no one wants to work, honestly, but when you do something you love, it is no longer work.
"It's Sounds Like You Don't Want to Work!" Fortunately that feeling is pretty universal which is useful, otherwise no-one would be paying us.
Dude just needs to FIRE, save 50% of what he makes and retire at 40
Guy, you remind me of myself at 24 years old. Pray to God, who made you and asked what you are make for. God spoke to me and asked me to be a used car dealer. I laughed and thought it was impossible as I do not know anything about cars and no money. God open the door and I loved my business, adding to that I could travel all over the world doing it. I am already retired and said I enjoy my work.
Thank you so much for your input Judy. I’m 24 and I about to finish my accounting and finance degree, but I’m not sure what I want to do, but your comment has encouraged me to keep asking and exploring- eventually it will be revealed to me what I’ve been made for.
@@faith.fitness123 , God answer when we ask, He loves us, His plan is to prosper us and give us a hope and future. I join in agreement with you that you will know His will.
Invest aggressively and retire at 40 and enjoy having the freedom to do whatever you like! Keep hustling my friend!
Honestly he can retire in his early-mid 30s!
That's the problem though. He needs a plan before the "whatever you like" phase. Right now, he likes programming but thinks he doesn't want to do that. He needs to define it or he will be like many retirees who don't know what to do. Even if he says he wants to do his same job but for 3.5 days pet week, that's still a goal and plan. Now figure out how to get there
@@Gibb591 I totally agree
As long as he never gets married he will retire very young.
I graduated with an IT degree , after a year I changed careers into the construction management field. Glad I did!
In the same boat and starting to realize I don't want to do anything to technical and thinking about doing the same. Did you graduate with bachelor's or associates?
@@Jay-ku1dq i did a Bachelors in business admin with emphasis in computer information systems, got a certificate in construction management thru university extension, was the quickest and cheapest way to change careers
@@Tony-hr5qd that's awesome, I have a associates in CIS and having technical experience is never a bad thing I suppose. A certificate is definitely an option to look into👍.
@@Tony-hr5qd Did you have to move to join construction? I live in the country, was thinking about getting into tech so I could do a job remote. I don't like the idea of driving 1.5h to work and back.
Maybe this is a misjudgment, but the caller might just be a little depressed and not. Realizing it.
I thought about that too but he also may have not had a childhood. He wasn't able to do things like kids or teenagers were able to do. Parents may have had him busy doing stuff, activities, maybe he took on responsibilities with siblings at an early age🤷🏽♀️but there's something b going on that he needs to talk about with someone
Are you qualified to make that assumption what are your qualifications are you a psychologist or are you just throwing stuff on the wall to see if it sticks?
If you dream of working for the rest of your life, I'm pretty sure you have no real aspirations...
My advice is find a WFH job they are everywhere now and then try to work with management to have a flexible schedule. I’ve seen plenty of people in the field work 3-4 days a week or they work from 8am to 2Pm and get the other two hours in at night. Now these situations almost never apply to entry level devs and you have to work your way up to that point but it’s completely possible.
@WorldFlex being self employed isn’t for everyone some people are better off working for someone else and have them take most of the responsibilities of the business.
If you're feeling this way when you're young, just wait until you get old.
Amen!
That is not a good advice!
hahahaha, just wait because it will go downhill... I work as a software engineer and what this guy said on the phone was exactly the way I thought back then when I was 24 yo.
Getting old sucks!!!!
🤣
This is common. Lots of channels here on RUclips where people hated their jobs, saved a bit of money, bought land and a mobile home, debt free and were able to semi retire/do something that they actually enjoy but brings in smaller income. Sounds good to me, but a lot of people don’t have the balls to do it.
Yeah. I certainly don’t. That’s a scary idea.
We're finding a new issue at my work where we cannot find candidates willing to work the usual. Too many back out of the interview process if they cannot work their own hours, cannot work remotely and of course be paid top dollar. It's a new age, and the workforce has become incredibly spoiled.
Spot on
I believe this is the trend, yes.
Half the country has no desire to work at all. All they want to do is stay at home and collect stimulus checks. He just needs to change his mindset a bit.
He needs to grind till his 40. Then he can retire and live off his investments. Not everyone wants to work all their lives.
who actually wants to work tho for real? Its all for $$$
Modern society is making all of us mentally sick
I know many people who would love to be stuck @ a desk all day as an engineer making great 💰 money! Just be grateful for your blessings until the next idea comes along!
I don't agree with "just be grateful for your blessings."
He is a website developer NOT an engineer
This "be grateful even if you hate it" argument is why many people end up hating their jobs and think that is normal
@@MR3DDev He is 24. He can do anything. So yes being grateful is a good start while he works on his big ideas. No one is suggesting he die at that company. 😂
Lol I’m late 20s and making over 200k you just have to do fun outside work and do new things at work.
When I was in my 20s and 30s, whenever I get bore doing the same thing, I go look for another job (interviews are fun when you already have a job) and acquire new skills (get new certifications or taking cooking classes) Or, go travel, or start a part-time business, etc. bottom line, you are in control of your life. You don't have to sit behind a desk 9to5....
Sounds like his mind hasn’t caught up with reality
Facts
A computer engineer that hates desk jobs. You need a new field brother!
Tyler.
Of course that's his name.
You want adventure? Go enlist.
LOL that’s what I was gonna say lol A Tyler would have an issue like this
What’s wrong with his name being Tyler?
@@AngelTechno oof
My computer engineer son works on the lake in his boat.
He can become financially independent and Buy back his freedom haha
He dont like to be on the clock that is the issue. Remember the guy making 125k a year lost his job for dashing while at work in Philadelphia
@@dominicankid1001 Yikes! Jeopardizing a minimum wage job doing that would be bad enough
Yes
@WorldFlex Absolutely nailed it. "Simple Path to Wealth" by JL Collins has become my spiritual guide to FI. lol.
@@vanguardvaluist2614 just want to say, thanks for your comment, I just downloaded the audiobook and look forward to listening to it!