Yes, because everyone can lack job security and jump jobs whenever they feel like. No one has priorities or actual reasons to make money. They're just numbers. Just like all of the people liking this video.
Is this fake or real? Like don't companies care about how long you can stay at a job? Asking for a friend....... The whole "I make more and more by jumping around" does not sound real, is it? At some point you just reach highest peak, no?
But if you lack brain power and are hard or unmotivated learning new skills, you better not jump, just stick to whatever salary you have. I quit the job I didn't like and now have to earn way less than I did. It's because I'm a lazy a*s and the only good reason for me to put some effort is to not be yelled at by the boss.
@@RaffyMaBoi that's so true... Repenting myself. Always better to switch every 24-36 months and keep upgrading skills till your 40s. After that it's clinging to whatever you have got and stay relevant.
I worked at a target during my college years and my coworker that had been with the company for 15 years made $2 more an hour than me. Don’t ever settle
Not everyone can get promoted. Some people are average or below average. It makes sense to not make a lot more in an equal job just because you are old.
My cousin did this. She basically just did a bunch of secretary and accountant stuff and hopped around from Wi-Fi companies to schools and she now ended up in some management position with 3x the starting amount in like 5 years (covid included)
I'm sorry, I need some clarification on a small part of this. Your cousin sister? Did you mean the sister of your cousin or was this person from a very strange family tree?
This is just an example, for comparison you can have the same paycheck but less stressful job But yeah, changing job can by stressful but also is the best way to push yourself and learn new things
literally the 60 is phenomenal for most people especially when theres people who work harder than those at some corporate jobs yet earn significantly less. Yes a lot of increased pay comes with more work load or harder work and specialising and managing more people and potentially experience too etc etc. but a lot is undeserved and simply because of the job title like some bosses literally don’t actually do anything themselves except rashly overlook their employees even then they have people below them like a pyramid so they only rlly have to directly manage a couple as they manage some and they manage some etc etc. and regardless of if they deserve that position or not is not the matter at hand but just saying a lot dont do much and get paid tonnes.
Did work for a small company in tech for a year. Left because I got an offer for double my salary. Update your resumes regularly and apply if you’re curious. It never hurts to at least see what’s out there!
I was told by my director and CEO never stop looking for opportunities he didn't mind saying it and had a great work relationship but he had qutoas to meet for the board which included keeping operation costs low
I can confirm that. For the last 10 years I have been jumping jobs and bumping salaries. The most I have been on a job has been 3 years, the least 10 months. Right now I earn triple, well into 6 figures, and I accumulated a huge wealth of experience in my industry because I have worked at many different levels. I don´t plan to leave but it so happens that either the company goes bust or I get a way better offer somewhere else. Who would have guessed that lack of loyalty goes both ways?
@@MPdude237 Nah. It is stressful only when you take it personal. Start thinking in terms of "jobs" instead of "careers" (because companies see you as a "number", not an "employee") and you will soon develop a methodology and move thru the motions. For instance, I don´t bring personal stuff (photos, toys, decorations) to my office, and my work is always copied on my cloud. I have mapped out the onboarding, work schedule, and the last day of work. In fact, companies love how well trained I am because I know what to ask and what is expected, from "passwords to the wifi and printer" to "weekly status report". I no longer see companies, but positions. Today I build cars, tomorrow games, but it is all the same. The only thing that keeps jumpting is my salary, and with the huge crisis of 2023 I am currently at my highest salary ever (well into 6 figures).
It kinda reminds me of the story my dad loves to say when he's teaching to me and my siblings about how we should act in the work environment: He used to for decades for the same company because he loved the people there, and his salary barely grew at all during all those years. When his boss died and his son took power, my dad no longer enjoyed working there because of him. So he finally decided to leave and work somewhere else, instantly getting his salary doubled because the other company was eager to hire someone with his vast experience in their field. Still, my dad says he's not sad about not taking the chance to leave sooner. He did enjoy working for his first company and made life-long friendships, and he's still in contact with most of his previous colleagues despite having retired around 15 years ago. So yeah, money isn't everything. If you find the right place where working doesn't feel like a chore, a cruel prison, and if you enjoy the people you're with... well, you should value your mental health and happiness over how much money you can potentially make if you are in the financial position to do so. Of course, every situation is different, but these are things we all should take into consideration.
Yeah. That can be part of it, I actually like my job, sadly its only part time, and isnt really a permanent solution. A person has to find that perfect balance between money, and surviving and work. If you have a job you like, and especially if the people are great, sometimes slightly less pay is worth it, vs being at a company you hate, and people you hate. As long you have enough to live well, and be well mentally. Its a good gig. Some people do only care about money, regardless of environment, and if they can handle it, good for them. Of course ideally you get a job that you at least like, with people you like, and good pay.
@Kay for me, it’s only about money. I just keep my work and personal lives completely separate from one another. I don’t talk about my personal life at work and I don’t talk about work when I’m off. Coworkers, including leadership, have asked me about that. I just remind them I’m not there to make friends, but rather to do a job
Clearly you haven't worked with crazy coworkers lol. Imagine all of them saying whatever you do is shit they never want to work with you and all. And then you get less and less interested in what your team does at all. In that case you can't really work if you don't work you won't improve your skills and for your future your skills are important. And you have 24 hours in a day, your work is almost 1/4 of your life and the other 1/4 is sleep let's say, and eating and the time you spend going to somewhere and every little is takes other 1/4, so your life is actually about 1/4 too. So your work is as much important as your free time in your life as you spend as much time at work as you spend in your free time. So that time you spend at work should be mentally healthy for you
Man, this is so true. But I have to admit, I stick around at my company just because it's easy and I'm nearing retirement. Don't really need more money or to learn new tricks. But if you're young--keep moving!!
It is not always about advancement. Many times your position is underpaid. You could likely go to another company and work less and get paid more. Because you are nearing retirement they will use you to train and help expand those in your field. Experience is more valuable in many sectors.
It's much more difficult than you think. First you have to have a very in demand position and a ton of connections. If you leave too many companies, some companies especially smaller ones are less willing to take you up. You may be able to get a better position if you stayed longer had you gotten the experience for specific roles. For example, in order to join a company as a senior engineer, you likely need senior engineering experience. So switching jobs is typically a good thing but there's a risk of being first in lay offs in a recession, ageism discrimation for certain roles, and you have to truly be on top of your industry. Lastly, pay is less important than sanity, stability, and time. I've jumped around a couple of positions in big tech and have to say some positions are brutal and have unsustainable oncalls. Some positions demand 50 to 60 hour work weeks to not get pip'd. And even worse, you will always have to gamble a bit when joining.
Your right that you want to be good at your job. Company’s are also more likely to take you for granted if you stick around to long. When you start a new job company’s are more inclined to put their best foot forward when it comes to your compensation package.
I would tend to disagree as long as you have the experience and do not get fired. You should be fine and be able to job hop with ease. Just don't quit too early. I would say 6 months is a good minimum.
Loyalty only ever benefits the employer, never the employee. Saw one guy do the same job for 40 years, barely paid any more than me who just started, and only got a handshake from the CEO and a certificate. Loyalty needs to work both ways, if employers want employees to stay, they need to compete with the market. Wether or not they want to, they'll end up competing with someone they trained, or end up fighting to find someone to train
40 years at the same job. That's a blessing. Job security is the most important thing in the world otherwise you end up like Dick in "Fun with Dick and Jane" unable to get your position at a different job and start at the bottom all over again. I think it's fnny that this applies alot more to trades jobs than it does corperate jobs. If the dude is making YT videos about how to get rich quick he's probably just a rich person's kid.
Remember, do not take advice about work from financial shorts creators. Your increment depends a lot on your ability to get shit done and smartness to negotiate than jumping around and expect a good salary. You are never entitled to a a raise just because you jump to a new company, you gotta have some value of your own.
Diversification of experience is more important than dedication to a company. Remember, companies will use you, if you stick around, they know they know how little they have to do to keep you
This is possible and it’s been happening. I stayed in a company long enough and some of my colleagues left and came back with a higher salary and position.
That’s actually so true. I need to talk with my friend more how he did it, but he red pilled me so hard with his $250k salary just after 2 years of finishing college.
The numbers are a bit off the guy would have gone from 60k to about 72k in 10 years which will be closer to 45k with inflation and his workload will have increased
@@Joshua-fs9vmdepends on where you live. I make right at 55k and I’m not stressed about money in the slightest. It helps when I have (almost) no debt (3k left on a truck).
Even for none corporate jobs, don't be afraid to keep moving from job to job. They will replace you without a thought, so never waste your time thinking about them when you can find something that pays you more.
Isn’t it a pity? Companies always complain about a lack of loyalty but they will reward people who have left, grown themselves for more money and then come back to receive more money. Because they just don’t want to take care of their employees. The hypocrisy is laughable, deafeningly so.
This capitalistic machine was never designed fair. It’s all about identifying trends and finding tendencies to make more so you can be free sooner. My job pays hourly and has an excellent union. I learned not to work hard while the matrix fueling dolts break themselves finishing their jobs sooner..
Assuming you have endless corporate jobs to pursue whilst living in some urban hellhole, or have the specific skills necessary to pursue remote work and the ability to actually DO any of these soulless jobs to a high level for even 2 years at a time
Yeah, that's actually the entire premise. It either applies or it doesn't...but I do know that most corporations prefer to hire for upper positions from outside 🤷
I’m a full-time recruiter. It doesn’t work this way 9/10. 4 years is the golden number. You can get paid SO MUCH when you bring skills AND good tenure. There’s a sweet spot. 2 years is too short. 10 years is WAY too long. 4 is your best guess, but it changes with industry.
@paulmcpheeters Welcome to the tech industry, 2-3 years is the norm, 4-5 yr tenure is common in non-tech, do better research, average industry turnover is 2.5 years
You are in the minority from my experience. Most recruiting departments I've seen barely check references and mostly focus on the interview/background check. But it does depend on the industry. Call centers are where I've spent the most time, and turnover is constant. So we snap up anyone with a pulse, no felonies, and at least two brain cells. This includes hiring management.
If you’re the highest performing person on your team, you won’t get promoted. They won’t promote someone too valuable to a different position. They’ll possibly hire someone from outside the firm, or more likely pull someone from another state to fill the position. If you’re in the middle of the pack, you also won’t get promoted, but you’ll have a higher chance of getting laid off.
Very true, I became stuck in a work position because I did such a good job that I became indispensable. When the company tried to expand my department everyone the company hired to do my job did a poor job or failed to meet expectations and left soon after. I finally left a few years later after it sunk in that I was in a dead end job. Private companies that don’t offer a pension, only a 401k it’s a no brainer you should move around to move up. Diversity in your job career is good.
And THEY want loyalty 🤣. They could promote the people giving them great effort, but prefer to hire from outside. They keep saying how it works better. I don't understand, but I'm not an MBA🤷🤔🤣.
It goes both ways: internal promotions are great because they treat you with kid gloves if you struggle at first…When you’re an outside hire, you have to prove yourself from day 1 and if you don't meet KPIs they’ll fire you. (That’s how the gig was open in the first place)
@@bobsemple9341 I mean if you cherry pick data based on certain things. Yes if you are able to job hop but most people who would try that wouldn’t actually be able to. So yeah the successful job hoppers make more. Just like how if you’re an aspiring actress and get in a movie you’ll make money but how many aspiring actresses actually even land a role?
When looking at advice like this, I think it’s important to consider whether your primary goal is to maximize income. I work full-time seasonally, and my spouse works part time. Our children are ages two and six and maximizing time together as a family is our top priority right now not income. I’ve told this to my 6yo directly when he asked why we didn’t have certain things that other people have. Life is all about trade-offs and since I have enough to pay my bills, get a small emergency fund, donate to places I care about and go out to eat once in a while. I’m happy to stop here. I think it’s important to consider that moving around and taking higher positions comes at a cost. I’m really passionate about what I’m doing and I love the people that I work with, so starting over somewhere else wouldn’t be worth it to me. Also, with a higher job title, that would likely require more time away from my family, and right now maximizing time with them is the most important thing to me. I grew up in one of the wealthiest cities in our state, and I wouldn’t want that kind of life for my children. We live in a lower cost area and have a much more balanced life.
If the person who stayed has more vacation time, works less hours, has less stress, a better social support system, etc., then I'd say it's worth it. It just depends on the individual situation and each person's priorities. If it's a very stable situation (definitely NOT guaranteed), that can have benefits that some people highly value or even *need* due to personal circumstances, and that can be hard to quantify. For example, good luck doing this if you need benefits like parental leave or disability leave (assuming you're in the US where workers' rights are practically non-existent).
All the dudes I know in higher positions didn't get them by staying in the company, all of them jumped around always asking for a higher position with more pay.
@@youkosm in an industry like IT maybe switching in 2 years is not an issue but most industries look for stability, if you've had 4 5 years on a single job u are considered high value
@@harshdokania8177 the problem comes down to who considers you high value. HR wants stability because it means you're low maintenance and you won't jump ship when offered something better. You give a better return on investment, *for them.* There's no telling if that loyalty will be two-way nor if they will act in good faith and compensate you for the supposed high value. If you do good work then you will find a job, and if you find one with good benefits and good management then they have earned your loyalty. Just have backup plans for when they don't and a good line up of offers before you leave a company. Don't be unprepared.
I'm a recruiter and I'll give y'all a tip, literally the most important thing in your resume is your laboral stability, if you're hopping around too much then no company is going to want you, my advice is try to stay for a minimum of 2 years in every company you're in, but ideally it's best if you stay anywhere between 5 and 10 years, a guy with 20 years of experience in only 3 or 4 companies will be hired before any MIT or Harvard PHD with 15 jobs in 15 years.
@@bobbyjohn7225 not all scenarios. Opportunities and exposure offered, and workload, leaves, treatment from your managers and bosses matters a lot as well. Like choosing a company that pays more (not that lot) with a promotion but don't have many opportunities in that company in the future is quite stupid than staying in a company that pays less but have a lot of promotion opportunities in the future
I am an employee and I am going to give you another tip: I bundled jobs. When I have 3 jobs in 5 years I budled them into one. Then, I get one of my best friends to answer in case HR calls to "check my last employer". And I do the exact same for my friends. I have (NOPE) 3 jobs in more than 20 years. I won´t say anything about my recommendation letters. I am sure anyone with basic PC skills can take an educated guess.
In 20 years, I could be retired with job hopping and living conservatively... Or I could be getting the job at a new company to work -erm- 10 more years!
I talked to someone about this who works in HR. They said if u like a job stay there and maybe talk to ur job about a raise but jumping from job to job consistently every two years is a red flag that will he noticed when ur applying.
Usually, jumping around like that means they are fleeing a bad situation that they helped to create. Or lying their way into the next position by inflating their resume (and hoping it won't be checked). I know one guy that claimed, that at his previous employer, he was "Executive" Director. Turns out he was the "Recreation" Director.
Indian values - Loyalty and companionship American Value - Run behind the green stuff! Also have a good time rapport building again and again Many companies also value Loyalty over skill man
Mid-20s here. I would absolutely do this if not for my current life outlooks. The job I have is very stable and can support me and my fiancé well, and I enjoy the job. I know I can go somewhere else for better pay, but I’m planning to go back to school and finish out my degree program and push for a Master’s (college dropout). I don’t want to stress about job hunting or learning a new position/company system while trying to also focus on school. At that point I’d be taking on too much of a workload. Also, since my degree plans are within the scope of my job’s industry, I have the ability to capitalize on tuition reimbursement. My job is stable and I’m good at what I do. I’d rather hang back and take a lower pay than what I could find somewhere else rather than making strides career wise to bump a pay rate so that I can focus easier on my schooling.
I worked for one company for 14 years, struggle to get raises. In 2016 I left and have worked at a different company. Left after 2.5 years, them left again after 3 years, and now make >300% more than I did when I left the 14 year company in 2016.
This applies so much more to the tech industry too. You start job hopping every year or so, and your wage increases massively. Only issue is breaking into the industry. But once you're in, you'll have recruiters up your arse.
Big issue is that employers here want to have people for a long time so they don't like people that jump around, the more you jump around, the least they want you because you'll be a waste of money
I've only worked for two companies my whole life. 1. My father's plumbing company. That how I got my license. 2. My best friend started his own plumbing company and I was his 4th employee. Been with him for 11 years now, the grass is not always greener on the other side. I get payed well, and amazing benefits. I understand that corporate jobs are different from trade jobs. But, sometimes it's not about working your whole life away just to make ass load of money. I make enough to have everything i want and be debt free. And enjoy a vacation every 2 years.
Money isnt everything. It takes time to go on job interviews which is super stresssful and it is a lot of work and effort to learn a new job. Im happy with my pay and it isnt too stressful. Money is good, but not being stress is also good.
@@alfredodiego3920 I skip four promotions and got the job I want in seven months. I knew people who retired at my last position and I am a step higher than that now. The higher a person go. The more stressful it is usually and of course the money is better. After a point at least for me, I'm content with my pay. I want to spend time with my family too. My entry level was the most fun because it was so easy and low stress. Just my opinion and of course we need people at all levels or the system wont work. It is good for people to move up and it is good for people to stay where they want.
Well loyalty can also look great on a resume, staying 5 year vs 2 years will help you get chosen at your next job offer. If the instability from jumping from job to job is to stressful for you to do every 2 years You can look into doing it every three or four or five. You're right that money is not everything, it is about quality of life as well. A small constellation prize for loyalty as well is investment schedules. Many companies put time-based barriers on their 401k contributions. The company I'm currently working at, has very small contributions for your first two years. On your second anniversary of your start date they grant you a bonus to your 401k and greatly increase their contributions. Annually their contribution percentage will increase until it is 100% and only a couple years. That means jumping from job to job every 2 years would get extremely little contributions to their 401k from The companies that they had worked for. The greatest appeal of a 401k is the company contribution adding to your savings for every dollar you choose to save. So job hoppers while making more gross annual income would be losing out on that. There is a sort of push and pull balancing act for each person to customize the way they want to go about their life. Job hopping is kind of a gamble. your resume showing company disloyalty can be distasteful to many recruiters. On top of the stress of applying for many different jobs and interviews, there's the stress of the instability of moving around or having different changing tasks or focuses, The changing of environments and office politics or dynamics, and also there could be a problem with company cultures. However job hopping is not an all or nothing, as I said before take it at your own pace. I would recommend annually weighing the pros and cons of your financial, environmental, and personal factors to see if you want to start looking around for something different. I personally landed in a job with a very good work culture, excellent benefits and very competitive pay for the field. These things may change later but for now I am content and would rather grow my 401k while I'm here.
Haha best advice. I did this and used to get qyestiined everytime by managers. Yeah, i went from $14 an hour 10 yrs ago in something called e-commerce. No one knew what i did or understood why i job hopped. 7yrs later im a 6-figure consultant for fortune 500 companies. I learned more applications and new software. It kept me relevant and earning more each year.
As a former employer myself I can tell you that seeing applicants who jump from job to job and can't stay with a single company longer than a year or two is a major red flag and I'd most likely not hire that individual.
Yah, except, jobs frown on hiring employees who don't show dedication. If you can't provide a REALLY good reason for having so many short employments, you can kiss being able to keep that up goodbye.
It depends on the job. He’s probably talking about tech field where it’s common to hop around. Good luck hopping around in basically every other field unless it’s every 3+ years as you gain more experience and responsibilities
Can confirm, currently jumping between jobs and if it goes through, I'll be making a bit over 3$ an hour more than I am now. This is only after 1 year.
I’m gonna be honest these kinds of shorts and content leave a terrible taste in my mouth. I know there’s likely evidence to support this will work but typically it always sounds like they’re cherry picking from a fantasy land. It’s mediocre advice from the internet of course and not meant to apply to everyone but the way they present this makes you believe anyone can do this. Instead of making an incredibly low effort skit that isn’t entertaining anyone, why not give actual tips from the get go
Dude so true. I stayed at a top 10 fortune 500 company for 6 years and got one promotion and 15k salary bump. Left and got a 100k raise for next company. Staying at a company long term is a bad idea
Such a hypothetical situation. You know what a lot of companies look for in interviews? Loyalty and consistency. Eventually if you move around too often, it may end up looking like you don’t have the perseverance for upper or middle management.
In the last two years via jumping from job to job and taking the best offer, I've gone from $15 hourly with no overtime to $25 hourly with an average of 10-20 hours of overtime a week
Honestly, it just comes down to where you enjoy working. I know I could be making more money moving company and I have options but, I enjoy the workteam itself. :)
This happened to my ex. He started at his current company 9 years ago & he’s only now making double his original salary & has been promoted a few times & he’s currently a manager. Last year his company hired a maintenance guy with zero experience making more than my ex. My ex had to help the guy since my ex had experience doing that particular job. Long story short, the new guy left that place & found a new job, doing the same thing, & making even more money.
I learned this a decade ago and went from 10$-71$ a hr . 15% increase each time I changed job. now I run a few crews for a roofing company and sell roofs on the side for myself
Thats apple users working from micky d to burger king, to arbys, to popeyes, to chickfila back to micky d to be a manager forna 2 dollar pay above employee. 😂😂😂😂
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Yes, because everyone can lack job security and jump jobs whenever they feel like. No one has priorities or actual reasons to make money. They're just numbers. Just like all of the people liking this video.
Is this fake or real? Like don't companies care about how long you can stay at a job? Asking for a friend....... The whole "I make more and more by jumping around" does not sound real, is it? At some point you just reach highest peak, no?
just depends on the field. In tech/business this is super common. Some people leave after a year or even 6 months. @@zengara11
But if you lack brain power and are hard or unmotivated learning new skills, you better not jump, just stick to whatever salary you have. I quit the job I didn't like and now have to earn way less than I did. It's because I'm a lazy a*s and the only good reason for me to put some effort is to not be yelled at by the boss.
Sounds fake: the guy who stayed would still be in the same position earning the same amount with 3x the workload.
Lol true, but I think he’s pitting that option’s best case scenario against that of someone who moves around and leverages positions.
Thats the worst case tho
@@RaffyMaBoi that's so true... Repenting myself. Always better to switch every 24-36 months and keep upgrading skills till your 40s. After that it's clinging to whatever you have got and stay relevant.
Actually I respectfully disagree with you. Actually he would have done very hard work and got a promotion.😊
I feel like this is fake because it was 2 years then 2 years then 4 years, that's 8 years, not 10 💀
Fakest thing about this is thinking you can double your salary at your current company in 10 years
It can happen I did it in 8 years
I did in six years. I think it really depends on the company and how much your boss cares about supporting and retaining people
@@HardGayDesu at what company and what area do you live in
@@decenthumanbeing67 online advertising company in Europe
I know nobody is this stupid, but don’t text that number from the bot lmao
And people wonder why there aren't any "career" jobs anymore. Companies don't reward loyalty and you're better off looking for the next best thing.
that not what "next best thing" means but okay
There must be a word for when aphorisms are used incorrectly
@@stellarcloakman4094next best job on your path? How doesn’t it work?
some do. you just live in a shit place with with shit people.
Legends say he still hasn't finished his line
I worked at a target during my college years and my coworker that had been with the company for 15 years made $2 more an hour than me. Don’t ever settle
and i bet his only salary increases has been to match with inflation.
Not everyone can get promoted. Some people are average or below average. It makes sense to not make a lot more in an equal job just because you are old.
@@Rsconquestexperience and loyalty used to mean something
My cousin did this. She basically just did a bunch of secretary and accountant stuff and hopped around from Wi-Fi companies to schools and she now ended up in some management position with 3x the starting amount in like 5 years (covid included)
And now the recession is in you're gonna have to update that story to why tf is no one hiring such an expensive secretary.
I'm sorry, I need some clarification on a small part of this. Your cousin sister? Did you mean the sister of your cousin or was this person from a very strange family tree?
@@paulb5571 I think they meant cousin who is a female. We use this idiom in India very commonly.
@@itsfarseen Thank you, I was legitimately wondering what was meant there. I was unaware of that method of phrasing.
Sister Cousin in India means female cousin. Sister Cousin in America means you're in Alabama.
Man switching jobs can be stressful too though. Nothing wrong with $150,000 a year
Yea but in reality he would be closer to 62k
This is just an example, for comparison you can have the same paycheck but less stressful job
But yeah, changing job can by stressful but also is the best way to push yourself and learn new things
literally the 60 is phenomenal for most people especially when theres people who work harder than those at some corporate jobs yet earn significantly less. Yes a lot of increased pay comes with more work load or harder work and specialising and managing more people and potentially experience too etc etc. but a lot is undeserved and simply because of the job title like some bosses literally don’t actually do anything themselves except rashly overlook their employees even then they have people below them like a pyramid so they only rlly have to directly manage a couple as they manage some and they manage some etc etc. and regardless of if they deserve that position or not is not the matter at hand but just saying a lot dont do much and get paid tonnes.
2.2 mil in dividends will get you 150k a year with a 5% tax after like 3 years.
this also assumes you have a job that doesn’t have a noncompete
Did work for a small company in tech for a year. Left because I got an offer for double my salary. Update your resumes regularly and apply if you’re curious. It never hurts to at least see what’s out there!
Very true, this is why I keep my house listed at 20-30 % over value.
I was told by my director and CEO never stop looking for opportunities he didn't mind saying it and had a great work relationship but he had qutoas to meet for the board which included keeping operation costs low
I can confirm that. For the last 10 years I have been jumping jobs and bumping salaries. The most I have been on a job has been 3 years, the least 10 months. Right now I earn triple, well into 6 figures, and I accumulated a huge wealth of experience in my industry because I have worked at many different levels.
I don´t plan to leave but it so happens that either the company goes bust or I get a way better offer somewhere else.
Who would have guessed that lack of loyalty goes both ways?
Nobody cares
@@aditpatnaik2654I care.
I have heard that jumping between positions is stressful. Is that true for you?
@@MPdude237 Nah. It is stressful only when you take it personal. Start thinking in terms of "jobs" instead of "careers" (because companies see you as a "number", not an "employee") and you will soon develop a methodology and move thru the motions.
For instance, I don´t bring personal stuff (photos, toys, decorations) to my office, and my work is always copied on my cloud. I have mapped out the onboarding, work schedule, and the last day of work. In fact, companies love how well trained I am because I know what to ask and what is expected, from "passwords to the wifi and printer" to "weekly status report".
I no longer see companies, but positions. Today I build cars, tomorrow games, but it is all the same.
The only thing that keeps jumpting is my salary, and with the huge crisis of 2023 I am currently at my highest salary ever (well into 6 figures).
@@aditpatnaik2654mad
It kinda reminds me of the story my dad loves to say when he's teaching to me and my siblings about how we should act in the work environment:
He used to for decades for the same company because he loved the people there, and his salary barely grew at all during all those years. When his boss died and his son took power, my dad no longer enjoyed working there because of him. So he finally decided to leave and work somewhere else, instantly getting his salary doubled because the other company was eager to hire someone with his vast experience in their field.
Still, my dad says he's not sad about not taking the chance to leave sooner. He did enjoy working for his first company and made life-long friendships, and he's still in contact with most of his previous colleagues despite having retired around 15 years ago. So yeah, money isn't everything. If you find the right place where working doesn't feel like a chore, a cruel prison, and if you enjoy the people you're with... well, you should value your mental health and happiness over how much money you can potentially make if you are in the financial position to do so. Of course, every situation is different, but these are things we all should take into consideration.
Yeah.
That can be part of it, I actually like my job, sadly its only part time, and isnt really a permanent solution.
A person has to find that perfect balance between money, and surviving and work.
If you have a job you like, and especially if the people are great, sometimes slightly less pay is worth it, vs being at a company you hate, and people you hate.
As long you have enough to live well, and be well mentally.
Its a good gig.
Some people do only care about money, regardless of environment, and if they can handle it, good for them.
Of course ideally you get a job that you at least like, with people you like, and good pay.
@Kay for me, it’s only about money. I just keep my work and personal lives completely separate from one another. I don’t talk about my personal life at work and I don’t talk about work when I’m off. Coworkers, including leadership, have asked me about that. I just remind them I’m not there to make friends, but rather to do a job
I would take HUGE salary with horrible coworkers EVERY DAY over crappy salary and nice coworkers.
Because my life is outside of work.
Sounds boring.
Clearly you haven't worked with crazy coworkers lol. Imagine all of them saying whatever you do is shit they never want to work with you and all. And then you get less and less interested in what your team does at all. In that case you can't really work if you don't work you won't improve your skills and for your future your skills are important. And you have 24 hours in a day, your work is almost 1/4 of your life and the other 1/4 is sleep let's say, and eating and the time you spend going to somewhere and every little is takes other 1/4, so your life is actually about 1/4 too. So your work is as much important as your free time in your life as you spend as much time at work as you spend in your free time. So that time you spend at work should be mentally healthy for you
Man, this is so true. But I have to admit, I stick around at my company just because it's easy and I'm nearing retirement. Don't really need more money or to learn new tricks. But if you're young--keep moving!!
It is not always about advancement. Many times your position is underpaid. You could likely go to another company and work less and get paid more. Because you are nearing retirement they will use you to train and help expand those in your field. Experience is more valuable in many sectors.
Absolutely crazy that you can spend 10 years at a company and not be eligible for upper management
It's much more difficult than you think. First you have to have a very in demand position and a ton of connections. If you leave too many companies, some companies especially smaller ones are less willing to take you up. You may be able to get a better position if you stayed longer had you gotten the experience for specific roles. For example, in order to join a company as a senior engineer, you likely need senior engineering experience. So switching jobs is typically a good thing but there's a risk of being first in lay offs in a recession, ageism discrimation for certain roles, and you have to truly be on top of your industry. Lastly, pay is less important than sanity, stability, and time. I've jumped around a couple of positions in big tech and have to say some positions are brutal and have unsustainable oncalls. Some positions demand 50 to 60 hour work weeks to not get pip'd. And even worse, you will always have to gamble a bit when joining.
Remember you can't do this unless your actually good at your job. Also companies who see you hop are less likely to hire you.
Your right that you want to be good at your job. Company’s are also more likely to take you for granted if you stick around to long. When you start a new job company’s are more inclined to put their best foot forward when it comes to your compensation package.
That’s why you simply wait till you actually get a good offer before leaving the old job. If you’re being hired, you’re being hired.
But you also have more experience on your resume
I would tend to disagree as long as you have the experience and do not get fired. You should be fine and be able to job hop with ease. Just don't quit too early. I would say 6 months is a good minimum.
Yea in the 70’s, today it’s the wild Wild West where hard workers are under valued or they settle for being short staffed.
John! We missed your summary at the end.
@adminnnishut up
Folks
I think they do that so they get double the views, since the video replays lmao
Folks if you wanna make more money, leave
Bro gambled 10 years of his life to maybe win a bet
Loyalty only ever benefits the employer, never the employee. Saw one guy do the same job for 40 years, barely paid any more than me who just started, and only got a handshake from the CEO and a certificate.
Loyalty needs to work both ways, if employers want employees to stay, they need to compete with the market. Wether or not they want to, they'll end up competing with someone they trained, or end up fighting to find someone to train
40 years at the same job. That's a blessing. Job security is the most important thing in the world otherwise you end up like Dick in "Fun with Dick and Jane" unable to get your position at a different job and start at the bottom all over again. I think it's fnny that this applies alot more to trades jobs than it does corperate jobs. If the dude is making YT videos about how to get rich quick he's probably just a rich person's kid.
@@dochallah1721 ya na not with dirt cheap pay tho
Remember, do not take advice about work from financial shorts creators.
Your increment depends a lot on your ability to get shit done and smartness to negotiate than jumping around and expect a good salary. You are never entitled to a a raise just because you jump to a new company, you gotta have some value of your own.
That's the thing you only jump when the new job gives more money
Truth. The work you do for someone else is more valuable. Been in the same place 7 years and regretting it
Diversification of experience is more important than dedication to a company. Remember, companies will use you, if you stick around, they know they know how little they have to do to keep you
This is possible and it’s been happening. I stayed in a company long enough and some of my colleagues left and came back with a higher salary and position.
Caption after the folks cut off: “If you want to make more money leave”
😭😭
That’s actually so true. I need to talk with my friend more how he did it, but he red pilled me so hard with his $250k salary just after 2 years of finishing college.
Even the guy making less is still amazing even at the starting amount
The numbers are a bit off the guy would have gone from 60k to about 72k in 10 years which will be closer to 45k with inflation and his workload will have increased
60k a year is bad what are u talking about
@@Joshua-fs9vm it is but sadly even the idea of getting 1000 PW feels out of reach for over half the population
@@Joshua-fs9vm 60K a year is above the national median salary of $56,420
@@Joshua-fs9vmdepends on where you live. I make right at 55k and I’m not stressed about money in the slightest. It helps when I have (almost) no debt (3k left on a truck).
Even for none corporate jobs, don't be afraid to keep moving from job to job. They will replace you without a thought, so never waste your time thinking about them when you can find something that pays you more.
If I found a job like that with a starting salary of 60k with the potential to earning 150k, I wouldn't wanna leave either
Isn’t it a pity? Companies always complain about a lack of loyalty but they will reward people who have left, grown themselves for more money and then come back to receive more money. Because they just don’t want to take care of their employees. The hypocrisy is laughable, deafeningly so.
This capitalistic machine was never designed fair. It’s all about identifying trends and finding tendencies to make more so you can be free sooner. My job pays hourly and has an excellent union. I learned not to work hard while the matrix fueling dolts break themselves finishing their jobs sooner..
loyalty=usefulness to value creation
Assuming you have endless corporate jobs to pursue whilst living in some urban hellhole, or have the specific skills necessary to pursue remote work and the ability to actually DO any of these soulless jobs to a high level for even 2 years at a time
Yeah, that's actually the entire premise. It either applies or it doesn't...but I do know that most corporations prefer to hire for upper positions from outside 🤷
Dc baby 🎉
How has McDonalds been treating you?
@@dgeneeknapp3168 Why do they prefer to do that?
@@SurprisinglyDeep I have no idea, but it's what I've seen and what has occasionally been verbalized to me.
I’m a full-time recruiter. It doesn’t work this way 9/10. 4 years is the golden number. You can get paid SO MUCH when you bring skills AND good tenure.
There’s a sweet spot. 2 years is too short. 10 years is WAY too long. 4 is your best guess, but it changes with industry.
@paulmcpheeters Welcome to the tech industry, 2-3 years is the norm, 4-5 yr tenure is common in non-tech, do better research, average industry turnover is 2.5 years
Ok boomer
You are in the minority from my experience. Most recruiting departments I've seen barely check references and mostly focus on the interview/background check. But it does depend on the industry. Call centers are where I've spent the most time, and turnover is constant. So we snap up anyone with a pulse, no felonies, and at least two brain cells. This includes hiring management.
Meanwhile, employees in a Japanese or South Korean company: LEAVE!?!? THAT'S TREASON!
They are right. There is no honor in leaving and not being loyal.
If you’re the highest performing person on your team, you won’t get promoted. They won’t promote someone too valuable to a different position. They’ll possibly hire someone from outside the firm, or more likely pull someone from another state to fill the position. If you’re in the middle of the pack, you also won’t get promoted, but you’ll have a higher chance of getting laid off.
Very true, I became stuck in a work position because I did such a good job that I became indispensable. When the company tried to expand my department everyone the company hired to do my job did a poor job or failed to meet expectations and left soon after. I finally left a few years later after it sunk in that I was in a dead end job. Private companies that don’t offer a pension, only a 401k it’s a no brainer you should move around to move up. Diversity in your job career is good.
And THEY want loyalty 🤣. They could promote the people giving them great effort, but prefer to hire from outside. They keep saying how it works better. I don't understand, but I'm not an MBA🤷🤔🤣.
You’re not reasonably going from under $80k to 150 in a single jump unless you’re disgustingly overqualified for your current position
It goes both ways: internal promotions are great because they treat you with kid gloves if you struggle at first…When you’re an outside hire, you have to prove yourself from day 1 and if you don't meet KPIs they’ll fire you. (That’s how the gig was open in the first place)
I love how this man creates an imaginary world and then achieves the best outcome in it
He's right tho. Statistically
@@bobsemple9341 I mean if you cherry pick data based on certain things.
Yes if you are able to job hop but most people who would try that wouldn’t actually be able to. So yeah the successful job hoppers make more.
Just like how if you’re an aspiring actress and get in a movie you’ll make money but how many aspiring actresses actually even land a role?
@@wwjccsd ur comparing a corporate job to acting? Wow that's a leap
@wwjccsd can't believe it has to be said but 1) acting is different and 2) don't be the worthless idiot that quits and THEN looks for jobs
When looking at advice like this, I think it’s important to consider whether your primary goal is to maximize income. I work full-time seasonally, and my spouse works part time. Our children are ages two and six and maximizing time together as a family is our top priority right now not income. I’ve told this to my 6yo directly when he asked why we didn’t have certain things that other people have. Life is all about trade-offs and since I have enough to pay my bills, get a small emergency fund, donate to places I care about and go out to eat once in a while. I’m happy to stop here. I think it’s important to consider that moving around and taking higher positions comes at a cost. I’m really passionate about what I’m doing and I love the people that I work with, so starting over somewhere else wouldn’t be worth it to me. Also, with a higher job title, that would likely require more time away from my family, and right now maximizing time with them is the most important thing to me. I grew up in one of the wealthiest cities in our state, and I wouldn’t want that kind of life for my children. We live in a lower cost area and have a much more balanced life.
If the person who stayed has more vacation time, works less hours, has less stress, a better social support system, etc., then I'd say it's worth it. It just depends on the individual situation and each person's priorities. If it's a very stable situation (definitely NOT guaranteed), that can have benefits that some people highly value or even *need* due to personal circumstances, and that can be hard to quantify. For example, good luck doing this if you need benefits like parental leave or disability leave (assuming you're in the US where workers' rights are practically non-existent).
All the dudes I know in higher positions didn't get them by staying in the company, all of them jumped around always asking for a higher position with more pay.
Those pay raises seem a bit high for both of them.
This only works if u are really good at the job, for most people this will simply appear as a sign of instability on your resume
Switching every 2 years is not really an issue, unless you get fired.
@@youkosm in an industry like IT maybe switching in 2 years is not an issue but most industries look for stability, if you've had 4 5 years on a single job u are considered high value
@@harshdokania8177 the problem comes down to who considers you high value. HR wants stability because it means you're low maintenance and you won't jump ship when offered something better. You give a better return on investment, *for them.*
There's no telling if that loyalty will be two-way nor if they will act in good faith and compensate you for the supposed high value. If you do good work then you will find a job, and if you find one with good benefits and good management then they have earned your loyalty. Just have backup plans for when they don't and a good line up of offers before you leave a company. Don't be unprepared.
Normally they wouldn’t hire someone who left earlier for a higher position than those who stayed
why not? he is worth more than the guy with a lack of ambition
Me crying in slightly-above-poverty-level when he said "I'm getting paid $150k/year" in the most disappointed voice:
I'm a recruiter and I'll give y'all a tip, literally the most important thing in your resume is your laboral stability, if you're hopping around too much then no company is going to want you, my advice is try to stay for a minimum of 2 years in every company you're in, but ideally it's best if you stay anywhere between 5 and 10 years, a guy with 20 years of experience in only 3 or 4 companies will be hired before any MIT or Harvard PHD with 15 jobs in 15 years.
I would agree but if you're getting a straight promotion and better salary than your last job you should change in almost all scenarios
In the skit he was staying for 2 and 4 years at a time...
@@bobbyjohn7225 not all scenarios. Opportunities and exposure offered, and workload, leaves, treatment from your managers and bosses matters a lot as well. Like choosing a company that pays more (not that lot) with a promotion but don't have many opportunities in that company in the future is quite stupid than staying in a company that pays less but have a lot of promotion opportunities in the future
I am an employee and I am going to give you another tip: I bundled jobs. When I have 3 jobs in 5 years I budled them into one. Then, I get one of my best friends to answer in case HR calls to "check my last employer". And I do the exact same for my friends.
I have (NOPE) 3 jobs in more than 20 years.
I won´t say anything about my recommendation letters. I am sure anyone with basic PC skills can take an educated guess.
In 20 years, I could be retired with job hopping and living conservatively... Or I could be getting the job at a new company to work -erm- 10 more years!
Exactly what I did. I increased my salary five fold in 10 years.
This guy is literally Ben from Umbrella Academy
That show was fire
My boi just said “Four years later” twice😂
Well, yes. Because it went from starting year, to year two, to year six, then year ten. So two gaps of four years.
*That if NOTHING goes wrong*
I talked to someone about this who works in HR. They said if u like a job stay there and maybe talk to ur job about a raise but jumping from job to job consistently every two years is a red flag that will he noticed when ur applying.
all of those dislikes are from companies
There is nothing wrong with sticking in one company as long as you like the work.
Sure, if you want to be poor. Same field, more money.
Exactly what I tell people, it's easier to move up from out than in. And we wonder why our systems shit
Usually, jumping around like that means they are fleeing a bad situation that they helped to create. Or lying their way into the next position by inflating their resume (and hoping it won't be checked). I know one guy that claimed, that at his previous employer, he was "Executive" Director. Turns out he was the "Recreation" Director.
Indian values - Loyalty and companionship
American Value - Run behind the green stuff!
Also have a good time rapport building again and again
Many companies also value Loyalty over skill man
Mid-20s here. I would absolutely do this if not for my current life outlooks. The job I have is very stable and can support me and my fiancé well, and I enjoy the job. I know I can go somewhere else for better pay, but I’m planning to go back to school and finish out my degree program and push for a Master’s (college dropout). I don’t want to stress about job hunting or learning a new position/company system while trying to also focus on school. At that point I’d be taking on too much of a workload. Also, since my degree plans are within the scope of my job’s industry, I have the ability to capitalize on tuition reimbursement. My job is stable and I’m good at what I do. I’d rather hang back and take a lower pay than what I could find somewhere else rather than making strides career wise to bump a pay rate so that I can focus easier on my schooling.
Reality: the guy who sticks around stays at 60k and the guy who left doesn't have a job anymore
Both of these scenarios are huge W’s
I worked for one company for 14 years, struggle to get raises.
In 2016 I left and have worked at a different company. Left after 2.5 years, them left again after 3 years, and now make >300% more than I did when I left the 14 year company in 2016.
This applies so much more to the tech industry too. You start job hopping every year or so, and your wage increases massively.
Only issue is breaking into the industry.
But once you're in, you'll have recruiters up your arse.
Big issue is that employers here want to have people for a long time so they don't like people that jump around, the more you jump around, the least they want you because you'll be a waste of money
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@@scottb9997 True
Bro went from 😐 to 😁 so fast
This is the most first world video I have ever watched
I've only worked for two companies my whole life.
1. My father's plumbing company. That how I got my license.
2. My best friend started his own plumbing company and I was his 4th employee.
Been with him for 11 years now, the grass is not always greener on the other side. I get payed well, and amazing benefits.
I understand that corporate jobs are different from trade jobs. But, sometimes it's not about working your whole life away just to make ass load of money.
I make enough to have everything i want and be debt free. And enjoy a vacation every 2 years.
Money isnt everything. It takes time to go on job interviews which is super stresssful and it is a lot of work and effort to learn a new job. Im happy with my pay and it isnt too stressful. Money is good, but not being stress is also good.
Lol sounds like broke talk, boooo hooo you’re stressed. Get back on the phone then and make us some sales champ 😂😂
@@alfredodiego3920 I skip four promotions and got the job I want in seven months. I knew people who retired at my last position and I am a step higher than that now. The higher a person go. The more stressful it is usually and of course the money is better. After a point at least for me, I'm content with my pay. I want to spend time with my family too. My entry level was the most fun because it was so easy and low stress. Just my opinion and of course we need people at all levels or the system wont work. It is good for people to move up and it is good for people to stay where they want.
Well loyalty can also look great on a resume, staying 5 year vs 2 years will help you get chosen at your next job offer. If the instability from jumping from job to job is to stressful for you to do every 2 years You can look into doing it every three or four or five. You're right that money is not everything, it is about quality of life as well. A small constellation prize for loyalty as well is investment schedules. Many companies put time-based barriers on their 401k contributions. The company I'm currently working at, has very small contributions for your first two years. On your second anniversary of your start date they grant you a bonus to your 401k and greatly increase their contributions. Annually their contribution percentage will increase until it is 100% and only a couple years. That means jumping from job to job every 2 years would get extremely little contributions to their 401k from The companies that they had worked for. The greatest appeal of a 401k is the company contribution adding to your savings for every dollar you choose to save. So job hoppers while making more gross annual income would be losing out on that. There is a sort of push and pull balancing act for each person to customize the way they want to go about their life. Job hopping is kind of a gamble. your resume showing company disloyalty can be distasteful to many recruiters. On top of the stress of applying for many different jobs and interviews, there's the stress of the instability of moving around or having different changing tasks or focuses, The changing of environments and office politics or dynamics, and also there could be a problem with company cultures. However job hopping is not an all or nothing, as I said before take it at your own pace. I would recommend annually weighing the pros and cons of your financial, environmental, and personal factors to see if you want to start looking around for something different. I personally landed in a job with a very good work culture, excellent benefits and very competitive pay for the field. These things may change later but for now I am content and would rather grow my 401k while I'm here.
Haha best advice. I did this and used to get qyestiined everytime by managers. Yeah, i went from $14 an hour 10 yrs ago in something called e-commerce. No one knew what i did or understood why i job hopped. 7yrs later im a 6-figure consultant for fortune 500 companies. I learned more applications and new software. It kept me relevant and earning more each year.
Should have ended with "...and you're my new boss" 😂
As a former employer myself I can tell you that seeing applicants who jump from job to job and can't stay with a single company longer than a year or two is a major red flag and I'd most likely not hire that individual.
title says corporate
Corporate is very different from what your experience is in, and people jump ship ALL the time.
Yah, except, jobs frown on hiring employees who don't show dedication. If you can't provide a REALLY good reason for having so many short employments, you can kiss being able to keep that up goodbye.
It depends on the job. He’s probably talking about tech field where it’s common to hop around. Good luck hopping around in basically every other field unless it’s every 3+ years as you gain more experience and responsibilities
Can confirm, currently jumping between jobs and if it goes through, I'll be making a bit over 3$ an hour more than I am now. This is only after 1 year.
An excellent example of semi ultra professional gigging. Bravo! Well done...
I’m gonna be honest these kinds of shorts and content leave a terrible taste in my mouth. I know there’s likely evidence to support this will work but typically it always sounds like they’re cherry picking from a fantasy land. It’s mediocre advice from the internet of course and not meant to apply to everyone but the way they present this makes you believe anyone can do this. Instead of making an incredibly low effort skit that isn’t entertaining anyone, why not give actual tips from the get go
I understand that overworked people aren't able to look for a job, but why most people can't change jobs every 2 years?
Take it from a lower class citizen....anything above 40 grand a year is a blessing. If you want to donate im all for it😁
Dude so true. I stayed at a top 10 fortune 500 company for 6 years and got one promotion and 15k salary bump. Left and got a 100k raise for next company. Staying at a company long term is a bad idea
Bruh I went from $60/yr to 130k this works sooooo well in tech.
Such a hypothetical situation. You know what a lot of companies look for in interviews? Loyalty and consistency. Eventually if you move around too often, it may end up looking like you don’t have the perseverance for upper or middle management.
Staying out dude… although making less may have MORE… More in benefits, a home, insurance and less stress…
Steady wife, steady life!😂😂😂😂
In the last two years via jumping from job to job and taking the best offer, I've gone from $15 hourly with no overtime to $25 hourly with an average of 10-20 hours of overtime a week
Three years on, came from $44k to $93k with no change in responsibility. Gotta love public service! Lol
Hypothetical scenarios, YAY!
I love how this assumes that companies will take you over someone who is willing to stay in the company
Love the transitions, nice
Honestly, it just comes down to where you enjoy working. I know I could be making more money moving company and I have options but, I enjoy the workteam itself. :)
Is not all about the money. The friends you make are also important but i get your point and is a great video.
How to win your point?
Pull hypothetical situations out of your ass.
Losing vacation hours is value too, the tenured guy has like 4 weeks paid vacation per year, it’s like a raise or at the very least free money
At the end:
"Fo-"
I'm gonna quit my Toyota Lube Tech position next year when I get my two weeks vacation 😂
The “4 years later” had me dead
This has been my strategy through my entire 18 year career. It has served me well.
My father worked 22 years at a marina and when he quit, his salary was $49,500 per year.
His transitions are 🔥
Yup, this is why I leave once I gain the experience I need and I’ve ALWAYS moved up in title and pay when I go somewhere else! Love this video! 💯
when the HR sees job hopping to resume, that could be a red flag.
Bro really did the spongebob 2 years later
This happened to my ex. He started at his current company 9 years ago & he’s only now making double his original salary & has been promoted a few times & he’s currently a manager.
Last year his company hired a maintenance guy with zero experience making more than my ex. My ex had to help the guy since my ex had experience doing that particular job. Long story short, the new guy left that place & found a new job, doing the same thing, & making even more money.
I learned this a decade ago and went from 10$-71$ a hr . 15% increase each time I changed job. now I run a few crews for a roofing company and sell roofs on the side for myself
This is 100% true especially at tech companies
When you vividly act the stage direction TWO YEARS LATER
Good advice. Thanks for sharing this ❤
These guys! ,😂Anything over 50k would be a gold mine to find.
Npc: 2 years later 😂😂😂😂😂 Npc:😑 4 years later
Thats apple users working from micky d to burger king, to arbys, to popeyes, to chickfila back to micky d to be a manager forna 2 dollar pay above employee. 😂😂😂😂