@@user-os4bd8dn7e you don't necessarily lead with the hands on a release 1. Depends on the loft. You extend the hands through the shot though. Plus, this guy is basically saying to never do a release 2 or 3. I don't care what you call it, that's just crazy talk. Sometimes you need a bunch of loft and don't want to lead with the hands.
Put the ball more toward your back foot. Get your knees and hips in a good position and keep them there (dont bounce up and down when you swing) and just use your arms and shoulders to swing. Works for me everytime
Practice in your backyard, find the swing that works for your shortgame. We are not all the same. But some simple tips that apply to most. Feet close together, get your practice swings scalping the grass. Short game deosnt require alot of wrist action. Just a little.
Well after seeing all these fan boys if he disagrees then his is objectively incorrect. In pro level golf Noone flips. Flipping gives rise to thin shots because the timing because akward.
Not really. He is basing his approach on what the average golfer should do. Dan has 3 different releases and says that you specifically have to practice them. The only “flippy” chip shot Dan uses is to lob a ball sky high. But he even says most people cant do it consistently without practice
I watched Paul Azinger's video.".Golfplan : Recovery : Using Bounce" on RUclips a couple of years ago. Figure Zinger knows. He says the exact OPPOSITE. He wants you to set the club at 90*, and return it exactly at 90, NOT with hands forward. I tried very hard to learn this, but always seemed to end up flipping. I'll stick with this.
Chips are about the club choice, practice and confidence. Once you can match the loft of club and speed of the swing you can confidently strike the ball. A lot of practice is the only way to be confident. After that you need to trust yourself and hit the ball the way you practice and not be afraid of hitting it too hard and misshitting/hitting too soft.
Great advice. Actually the only advice most people need for chipping. Only thing I would argue is when you open the club face, you actually stop activating the bounce and you rely on the rear of the club, so if its deep (wide bottom) the wide bottom acts as bounce instead of the spine. This is my understanding from a club forging video I watched years ago, and reiterated by phil recently in a video with bryson. If you use this exact technique as he states, and you force the toe down (heel up) it will cause a higher, softer chip as well, Same mechanics but it yields a shot between a chip and a flop.
Try putting the ball at your front foot with an open face. Think like you’re clipping the ball while swinging a bit more up on the ball than a normal chip shot!
@@reidjames2938 If you're chipping to an 8 foot elevated green, you most likely are on an upslope. So, yes, swinging up on the ball is legit. If you're not on an upslope, you are too far away for a chip, and you should be pitching...
Well this just isnt true. If you're skulling the ball with your weight forward you ought to film yourself because youre probably either flipping or leaning back at impact. If you lean forward and dont flip there's literally no possible way for you to hit the ball with the leading edge the way that causes the 'line drives'
Go to a practice green and chip with different clubs, wedge, 9, 8, 7. Each club gives you a different flight vs roll, and the lower clubs give more roll vs flight. I found a 9 or 8 is easier to hit consistently than my wedge/60 degree. Those clubs require a more exact hit on the ball. You can adjust the flight distance as needed and roll the ball to the hole. Chips with a short green run need a wedge but the longer run chips are easier with the lower # clubs because to me the shortest chip flight is easier to hit. Jack Nicklaus has a picture book called "Playing Lessons" I believe it's called that I used back in the early 1980's and he explains the loft vs run method. You can practice to judge the difference chipping a 9 iron with 4 feet flight and run vs chipping an 8 4 feet flight and run. The idea being a shorter flight is simpler/easier to master. You could even cut down a 7 iron as a chipping club. Good luck, this method helped me become a 6 h'cap in my young days.
It’s a pretty common misconception that you have to flop to spin the ball. It’s about catching the most grooves as you can. Off of fairway grass, ball back of stance, slightly steep, hit ball first, nip a small divot out of the grass, boom you’ll spin. Rough grass, open the face some, hit ball first, and try to sweep the grooves through the ball (flop). Flops aren’t the way to spin it’s just one way to do it.
If you have to ask the absolutely last thing you should ever attempt is the flop shot. Just attempt a normal weight forward chip shot with your most lofted wedge. Then 5 years from now when you understand things better start practicing flop shots. This is the best advice you’ll ever get.
You have got to know that there is never, ever one single solution that works for everybody. I also noticed that they did not show the result of one single expert chip shot.
I understand what he means but this doesn't work on all types of grass. And it doesn't work on all lies. Modern club design also favours a more release type of chipping. Even a toe down style. The modern way of chipping is playing draws rather than cuts. Even with an open club face, the move is more of a draw.
I would only chip a green side shot if I had to fly an obstruction and literally had no other choice. Your goal here first and foremost is to get the ball on the green. Short chips that don't even make the green or that stop just on the green are a disaster. You need to get the ball at least a makeable distance to the hole. Not leave it 20 feet short or some distance that you have no chance of making. Ideally pass the hole by no more than a foot or two. So that short chip is essentially throwing a stroke away.
If his chips were a disaster I'm fucked.
😂 🤣 same.
Far from a total disaster
I love how every coach says something different lol
Dan Grieves would smoke this bro.
Yeah, pass on this dudes lesson. Listen to DG instead
Isn't this basically a release one?
@@user-os4bd8dn7e you don't necessarily lead with the hands on a release 1. Depends on the loft. You extend the hands through the shot though. Plus, this guy is basically saying to never do a release 2 or 3. I don't care what you call it, that's just crazy talk. Sometimes you need a bunch of loft and don't want to lead with the hands.
Joe mayo might have some input here 😅😃
Yeah this is total nonsense. Dan grieves all day
Dan grieve would disagree with this guy.
Not for release 1
Driving with the hands are old school ideas
Seems so limiting. I'm much more confident with this type of shot, but I know it is absolutely unplayable sometimes.
leading w the hands is how u get spin and control on shots like these tho
dan grieves release 1 here
Put the ball more toward your back foot. Get your knees and hips in a good position and keep them there (dont bounce up and down when you swing) and just use your arms and shoulders to swing. Works for me everytime
Practice in your backyard, find the swing that works for your shortgame. We are not all the same. But some simple tips that apply to most. Feet close together, get your practice swings scalping the grass. Short game deosnt require alot of wrist action. Just a little.
NEVER trust a coach wearing a glove from Bushwood
I guarantee YOU will never be a member here!
Chips and shots under 80 yards are my achilles
Meanwhile coach himself chunking his chips when showing how to do it
He's not chunking them 😂 that's how you use the bounce.. I'm guessing you hit a lot of your chips thin or very low
Dan grieves would disagree
Well after seeing all these fan boys if he disagrees then his is objectively incorrect.
In pro level golf Noone flips. Flipping gives rise to thin shots because the timing because akward.
lol, guys the simple answer here is that there is more than one way to chip.
@@vaffelproductions of course, but only one technically correct way
Not really. He is basing his approach on what the average golfer should do. Dan has 3 different releases and says that you specifically have to practice them. The only “flippy” chip shot Dan uses is to lob a ball sky high. But he even says most people cant do it consistently without practice
@@pobodysnerfect9270 this guy gets it^
Very few lessons about chipping against Bermuda grain
Once you figure leaning forward and open the face your chipping changes for ever
Why are instructors all so arrogant? Is it just because they are bitter pro wannabes? I’d never go to anyone like this.
Look how your coach does not let go of the club. Mimic greatness
I watched Paul Azinger's video.".Golfplan : Recovery : Using Bounce" on RUclips a couple of years ago. Figure Zinger knows. He says the exact OPPOSITE. He wants you to set the club at 90*, and return it exactly at 90, NOT with hands forward. I tried very hard to learn this, but always seemed to end up flipping. I'll stick with this.
Getting wristy was so hard to overcome for me, when I fixed that chips were so much better. It’s a hard tweak
I don't think the head should move, maybe a little naturally
I’ve started chipping and even short pitching with a putter grip. Much more consistent contact that way for me…
Chips are about the club choice, practice and confidence. Once you can match the loft of club and speed of the swing you can confidently strike the ball.
A lot of practice is the only way to be confident. After that you need to trust yourself and hit the ball the way you practice and not be afraid of hitting it too hard and misshitting/hitting too soft.
Great advice. Actually the only advice most people need for chipping.
Only thing I would argue is when you open the club face, you actually stop activating the bounce and you rely on the rear of the club, so if its deep (wide bottom) the wide bottom acts as bounce instead of the spine.
This is my understanding from a club forging video I watched years ago, and reiterated by phil recently in a video with bryson.
If you use this exact technique as he states, and you force the toe down (heel up) it will cause a higher, softer chip as well, Same mechanics but it yields a shot between a chip and a flop.
Doofus when you open the face for chipping you're supposed to use only the toe
What a useless instruction. 🤦♀️
Keep your head steady. Needs correcting. It will give you a whole lot more consistency.
What about 8 to 10ft elevated greens or clearing an obstruction?
Try putting the ball at your front foot with an open face. Think like you’re clipping the ball while swinging a bit more up on the ball than a normal chip shot!
@@brendanfraingolfs swing up on the ball? Worst chipping advice possible
@@reidjames2938 If you're chipping to an 8 foot elevated green, you most likely are on an upslope. So, yes, swinging up on the ball is legit. If you're not on an upslope, you are too far away for a chip, and you should be pitching...
Open face, 80% Weight forward on lead foot, ball forward in stance, high hands in the follow through
Sockets might occur with that technique
Ooooooo I definitely have a tendency to scoop. My balls end up on the other fairways 😂
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If you move forward while striking a chip youll most likely result in skulling the ball and sending it in a line drive over the green. Bad advice imo.
Well this just isnt true. If you're skulling the ball with your weight forward you ought to film yourself because youre probably either flipping or leaning back at impact. If you lean forward and dont flip there's literally no possible way for you to hit the ball with the leading edge the way that causes the 'line drives'
I liked his chip lol
Phil Michelson says with front foot or back foot, NO middle.
I can chip fine, judging the distance now that’s another story
Go to a practice green and chip with different clubs, wedge, 9, 8, 7.
Each club gives you a different flight vs roll, and the lower clubs give more roll vs flight.
I found a 9 or 8 is easier to hit consistently than my wedge/60 degree. Those clubs require a more exact hit on the ball.
You can adjust the flight distance as needed and roll the ball to the hole.
Chips with a short green run need a wedge but the longer run chips are easier with the lower # clubs because to me the shortest chip flight is easier to hit.
Jack Nicklaus has a picture book called "Playing Lessons" I believe it's called that I used back in the early 1980's and he explains the loft vs run method.
You can practice to judge the difference chipping a 9 iron with 4 feet flight and run vs chipping an 8 4 feet flight and run. The idea being a shorter flight is simpler/easier to master.
You could even cut down a 7 iron as a chipping club.
Good luck, this method helped me become a 6 h'cap in my young days.
Ok but how do you spin flop it though ?
It’s a pretty common misconception that you have to flop to spin the ball. It’s about catching the most grooves as you can. Off of fairway grass, ball back of stance, slightly steep, hit ball first, nip a small divot out of the grass, boom you’ll spin. Rough grass, open the face some, hit ball first, and try to sweep the grooves through the ball (flop). Flops aren’t the way to spin it’s just one way to do it.
If you have to ask the absolutely last thing you should ever attempt is the flop shot. Just attempt a normal weight forward chip shot with your most lofted wedge. Then 5 years from now when you understand things better start practicing flop shots. This is the best advice you’ll ever get.
@@NicoGolf.fact.
86° wedge
Just go practice.
Obviously you don't watch the channel because he does. He just broke 90 the other day
Well watch Dan Grieves because he talks release and not driving the ball and it gets better results than driving hands forward all the time
You have got to know that there is never, ever one single solution that works for everybody. I also noticed that they did not show the result of one single expert chip shot.
I understand what he means but this doesn't work on all types of grass. And it doesn't work on all lies. Modern club design also favours a more release type of chipping. Even a toe down style. The modern way of chipping is playing draws rather than cuts. Even with an open club face, the move is more of a draw.
Really lol havent heard that before, dddduh
Problems chipping? Dave Pelz Short Game Bible. You’re welcome.
I would only chip a green side shot if I had to fly an obstruction and literally had no other choice. Your goal here first and foremost is to get the ball on the green. Short chips that don't even make the green or that stop just on the green are a disaster. You need to get the ball at least a makeable distance to the hole. Not leave it 20 feet short or some distance that you have no chance of making. Ideally pass the hole by no more than a foot or two.
So that short chip is essentially throwing a stroke away.
Old school.
release release release
Not enough people practice this!!!
This is absolutely terrible advice.
How about a tight hard plan lie?
Putt it
Or come in steep and hit it like a short pitch shot. Thats how you’d hit those “nippy” shots that stop quick.
Dude... Don't listen to nearly any of this
The text is really annoying
A lot of pros feel the club release rather than keeping the shaft lean. The key is just timing it correctly
Did buddy really put on a glove to chip??
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That brilliant mate
Way too much talk in this video...why would any sane person chip a tight lie like that...just putt it
Bunch of either horrible short game players in these comments or people who are just awful at being coached.....or both
This is horrible advice. I would not want to learn short game from this dude
This sucks
Who is this coach and why doesnt he have his own channel.
Take the captions off. Too distracting.
Completely disagree.
Maybe it's because I'm not a native speaker, but sometimes, it's hard for me to understand every single word without captions.
Maybe they could be lower on the screen instead of the middle though
Definitely should be lower bit still necessary
I use this technique if I want to hit a low one. Most of the time I fly it to the hole with a lot of spin and height from more wrist hinge and release
Less of the caption existing but more so the caption sliding into the screen