Thank you for the short, to-the-point video! Too many RUclipsrs like to talk too much or video every single setp of the way, and their videos end up being WAY TOO LONG and lose my interest quickly. Yours was exactly what I was looking for!
Thank you for this very thorough video. I just finished replacing mine and you just saved me a lot of money. BTW, the back screw that was hidden was a pain to get out.
thanks you're the real MVP.. I took my charger to the dealer to see how much they would charge me they said it was going to be a $700 fix lol I'm just going to do this when I get some spare time this week
Perfect! My '11 started doing this the other day and, while I knew it was something to do with the doors for ventilation, I wasn't sure what was causing it. Looks like I'll have a quick little project to do on the weekend. Naturally, it's below freezing here now, so that will be fun. ;-)
Mine has been doing it for the past 2 years I just deal with it . I think I will get to doing it this summer when it’s warm. It’s too cold now. Great video Juan!
I have the same issue with my 2011 chrysler 300 on the passenger side also i bought the part but is it the same way taking off the glovebox as the charger??? Shop just told me $200-$400 smh
Awesome video. How did you pinpoint which one of the three actuators wasn't working? Would it have been easier to access it through the dashboard where the other two are located? Did you ever change the other two? If yes, do you have a video for that? Thanks in advance for answering my questions.
Ahmed Saidu-Kamara if you watch my other videos, you'll see I ended up replacing two actuators. when a tooth on the internal gear breaks the faulty actuator makes a sound and you can actually feel it hitting the casing by placing your hand on it. Removing tbe dashboard is not practical since you would have to remove way too many parts including the airbags to remove it.
I've watched your other video and they're all very informative. Question for you, did you buy the T15 bit as a set with the little ratchet and were they separate. If yes, can you send me the brand name or the link so I can buy one myself, thanks.
HI Ram #1, unfortunately I'm in Phoenix and can only assist by posting videos of my automotive work online. If there is anything you would like to see in the video maybe I can make another one with whatever you need. I don't do much car work in the summer because of the phoenix weather.
Hey I have the same problem mines a chryler 300 2012 has it in the same spot I tried to discounted each of the switch it has 3 but its continues to make that sound I'm still thinking is the one you change switch I tried it but just put the cable to see what it do but the sound continue you if I just installed it it will work.
Hey bro so I replaced this and it worked but about a month later the noise started again this time even faster. I took it off and on this inside of the actuator looked the same like melted. Could it be something else? Or am I not doing it right?
Hey Juan On my 2007 Chrysler 300C ,when I press in the recirculate button the door doesn't close like it used to door??? Do you think by replacing this part on my car, it will resolve my issue? Great video, thanks.
Hi Roberto Rivera, Not sure if just replacing them would do it if the actuator is actually working. In the case of the Charger, it has three actuators (on behind the glove box and two behind the instrument panel), and when the one behind the glove box was making noise, i took it out and tested by hand the movement of the flap it moves to make sure it was moving freely before finally realizing the Dodge/Chrysler plastics are just junk and that's why it keeps breaking. If one of the flaps is getting stuck then that could be your problem. Best of luck to you
Question for you please, I need the name of the actuator on the drivers side soo I can know which one it is the person that replaced it swamped it with one of the ones from the passenger side I know on passenger side it’s one straight ahead and it’s one to the side behind glove box but I would really appreciate it if you knew which ones they were
Hassan Williams All 3 actuators are the same part #. The part I listed on the passenger side replacement is the same with the exeption of one on the driver's side having a housing that has to be removed with it in order to be able to take it out. Good luck
Juan Castro are they all interchangeable? So a buddy of mine replaced the two on the passenger side , he replaced one by mistake that wasn’t knocking it was the one on the drivers side so he took the one on drivers side out , and replaced it with the one that he did by mistake now the one on drivers side is still knocking and the recirculation button works when it want and it still knocks I was wondering did he put the wrong one there , or can they all be swapped and do the same thing I ordered one for drivers side it will be on Monday or is each one a specific one
Hassan Williams I has 3 of them. In my Charger I took appart the entire dashboard on another video I posted, because I wanted to make sure there wasn't another one I was missing. I bought all three at the dealer for about $30 each and no more headaches. Well, for now, it's dodge plastic so it's crap right out of the dealer.
I have a dodge magnum 2005 2.7L. Just recently the driver side is blowing out cool air, and the passenger is blowing out colder air. Could this be the same issue you were having? Replacing the actuators can fix this problem? Thank you
Chris. That's very likely the problem. One of the actuators is the one that blends the air. Before replacing it make sure the AC is fully charged because some times a small leak or the AC Dryer can have the same symptom. Good luck
Yes i did, i purchased a recharge ac boost. Once i plugged it in, it says fully charged on green. Also i forgot to mention that i hear no clicking noise at all. Since i feel it warmer on driver side does that mean the driver side actuator isnt working correctly?
Sorry, my car wasn't blowing warm air. The actuator was not working properly and it was making a clicking sound. If your car is blowing warm air, start by checking your refrigerant pressure first.
Did this fix work for everybody/anybody? Would someone with a low level of mechanical/car experience be capable of performing this fix? Thank you for any info
canucklehead2004 Other than the person having warm air blowing for some other reason, the fix seems to have worked for everyone so far. You really don't need a lot of mechanical knowledge or skills to do this fix. Good Luck
i saw another video on here both your video and the other guys noise sound yhe same to mine but he stated that he replaced the vent actuator motor. wondering if that the same part with different name?
same part. once you remove the part you can move the vent flap with a flathead screedriver. the actuato's function is to open and close the flap for directing airflow.
I had that problem with another one of my cars and I ended up having to replace the compressor and other parts. Depending on your car and your comfort level when working with AC, you might need the Compressor, accumulator and depending on your vehicle the orifice tube (and inline mesh filter). The first thing I would do is check the refrigerant level to see if it's low. Good Luck
I bought my 2011 charger brand new with 25 miles on it. It has been nothing but a money pit. Alternator. Electrical issues. Bluetooth no longer worked after a year and a half. The phone feature doesn’t work. Trunk and glove box lights are out and the list goes on. This vent actuator is the latest thing to go wrong.
@Mark Don did u figure out what was going on I have a 07 charger Daytona and it only blows cold on passenger side and warm on driver side and when I turn the driver temp nob it makes a clicking sound on the driver side of the dash
Peter Lopez , the car has three actuators and from my understanding they direct the airflow as well as the blending of heat and cold. If you take it out the flaps/doors they control will stay in whatever position it's left and it might interfere with the working actuators' flow. They're not very expensive and the work was relatively easy. Best of luck.
Peter Lopez That's why I used those small detachable bits. It helps if they're magnetic but once you've done it once it becomes easier. I had to do it twice because the aftermarket part didn't last long.
Peter Lopez the part from RockAuto only lasted about a year. Could have been that partucular part but I didn't want to take chances and used the dealer part the second time and it's still ok.
Elites Engineering ruclips.net/video/O0YgksHaFdk/видео.html This is my other video for the actuator replacement on the other side and it shows the removal of the instrument panel. Hopefuly this helps.
I replaced the passenger’s side actuator, and now not only did it not fix the issue (passenger’s side of the car only blows cold air no matter what) but the heat on the driver’s side is a lot worse now. I’m so mad.
There are 3 actuators. I posted another video here when I replaced the other two. They're a little difficult to reach but that could solve your problem. Best of luck with your project.
Hey Jaun, or anyone with any helpful knowledge. I replaced the same one 2 times already, and now not even a month later and it's doing the same thing again. I also replaced the fuse under the hood. Anyone having this issue or experienced this issue, what did you do to fix.
Amariah Levi I found that the aftermarket part didn't last more than a few months. For a little over $10 from aftermarket price, i got the factory part and it hasn't given me any problems.
Yasin B Not hard at all, I had to do it a coupke of times because the first actuator I used was aftermarket and only lasted about 6 months. I used a very small screwdriver bit's ratchet to reach and had no problems.
So I changed the the one behind the glove compartment it fixed the clicking sound but now cold air doesn’t come out. Does anyone know what I have to do?
I have another video showing the location and replacement of the other 2 actuator under the instrument panel. If your heater core as well as water temperature are operating properly then it could be one of the other actuators. Here's a description of their functions as described by Dodge's service manual "A temperature control determines the discharge air temperature by operating the blend door actuator(s), which moves the blend-air door(s). This allows an almost immediate control of the output air temperature of the system. The mode door actuator operates the mode-air doors which direct the flow of the conditioned air out the various air outlets, depending on the mode selected. The recirculation door actuator operates the recirculation-air door which closes off the fresh air intake and recirculates the air already inside the vehicle." Best of luck.
Does anyone know how to recalibrate the actuator without having to go to the dealership...I replaced the blend door actuator but there's still a clicking noise coming from the AC every time I put it on defrosts mode
Jose Aguirre There ia no reseting of of the vent. you can actually move the vent flap manually towards the back or front. Just make sure it matches the position of the actuatot. Best of luck
There's a guy here on youtube with a dodge avenger that says there's not one but TWO vent actuators behind the glove box. I have to assume our Chargers have a couple of them also. You may have changed the wrong one. The avenger owner says the 1st one he change was also the wrong one.
Niners4Lyphe I changed the right one 2 times already, now I'm headed to my 3rd one. And I also changed the fuse under the hood. Why is it still doing it.
4 total. 2 per side. One for each zone of hot and cold, one for defrost, and one for recirculation that works with the humidity sensor that is on your windshield behind your rear view mirror.
Why are people saying its the same game? Yes, it's the same core mechanics, but why the fuck would they change that?? They've added so may things to the game, and each cod has significant differences that are unique to that installation in the franchise. Please tell me the things they haven't changed and (this is the important part) why they should change them/what the change should be. And just so no one comments saying "your just an idiot fan boy!" I actually love battlefield as well and I didn't even buy Ghosts, and there are definitely things I don't like about cod, but I hate to see people say that its the same game every year and thats why they're not gonna play it. Was it not a fun game back in the good old days of cod 4, mw2, and black ops? why would they deviate from the things that people love about the game? And how is battlefield not the same game? How many changes were made from Battlefield 3 to Battlefield 4?
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thanks for the sharing on how to replace the actuator saved me from going to a mechanic shop,i did it myself thanks to your excellent tutorial,
gilbert munoz you're very welcome. glad it was helpful
Thank you for the short, to-the-point video! Too many RUclipsrs like to talk too much or video every single setp of the way, and their videos end up being WAY TOO LONG and lose my interest quickly. Yours was exactly what I was looking for!
Thank you for this very thorough video. I just finished replacing mine and you just saved me a lot of money.
BTW, the back screw that was hidden was a pain to get out.
thanks you're the real MVP.. I took my charger to the dealer to see how much they would charge me they said it was going to be a $700 fix lol I'm just going to do this when I get some spare time this week
Perfect! My '11 started doing this the other day and, while I knew it was something to do with the doors for ventilation, I wasn't sure what was causing it. Looks like I'll have a quick little project to do on the weekend. Naturally, it's below freezing here now, so that will be fun. ;-)
Mine has been doing it for the past 2 years I just deal with it . I think I will get to doing it this summer when it’s warm. It’s too cold now. Great video Juan!
Did you say T15 bit? to remove the actuator screws?...thanks. great video btw...very helpful!!
yes Jeff, it's a T-15 star bit
awesome ...thank you!!
how on earth did you get to that back screw...lol
thanks so much I will be fixing mine this weekend .. u saved me $$$$$
thanks for information this is good information about any things because time is hard for this single mother!!
I have to replace all 4 of my actuators on my 2011 Dodge Charger. Do you have a link or know where the other 3 are located?
Thanks a ton for this video brother,
just changed it on my 2012 Charger 👌
Thank you so much for this vid. Shop wanted to charge me $800-1000 to do this.
I was told 1,400......crazy
Thanks for the video. I replaced the actuator on my 2012 Charger.
thank you very much juan castro your a hero
I have the same issue with my 2011 chrysler 300 on the passenger side also i bought the part but is it the same way taking off the glovebox as the charger??? Shop just told me $200-$400 smh
Awesome video. How did you pinpoint which one of the three actuators wasn't working? Would it have been easier to access it through the dashboard where the other two are located? Did you ever change the other two? If yes, do you have a video for that? Thanks in advance for answering my questions.
Ahmed Saidu-Kamara
if you watch my other videos, you'll see I ended up replacing two actuators. when a tooth on the internal gear breaks the faulty actuator makes a sound and you can actually feel it hitting the casing by placing your hand on it. Removing tbe dashboard is not practical since you would have to remove way too many parts including the airbags to remove it.
Juan Castro Thanks Juan. I will watch the other video today. Have a great day.
I've watched your other video and they're all very informative. Question for you, did you buy the T15 bit as a set with the little ratchet and were they separate. If yes, can you send me the brand name or the link so I can buy one myself, thanks.
Ahmed Saidu-Kamara I had a 1/4 inch socket set and the small ratchet and got the T bit sets from Harbor Freight Tools.
Got it. I just ordered one actuator from Mopar today. I will get the T bits from Harbor Freight store near me this weekend, Thanks so much.
IT WORKED FOR ME....THANKS
where are you located I need your help I got the same problem. I'm in Visalia California and I need help
HI Ram #1, unfortunately I'm in Phoenix and can only assist by posting videos of my automotive work online. If there is anything you would like to see in the video maybe I can make another one with whatever you need. I don't do much car work in the summer because of the phoenix weather.
Hey I have the same problem mines a chryler 300 2012 has it in the same spot I tried to discounted each of the switch it has 3 but its continues to make that sound I'm still thinking is the one you change switch I tried it but just put the cable to see what it do but the sound continue you if I just installed it it will work.
I have the same problem did this work for you ?
Isn't there 4, 2 on ea side?
Hey bro so I replaced this and it worked but about a month later the noise started again this time even faster. I took it off and on this inside of the actuator looked the same like melted. Could it be something else? Or am I not doing it right?
The very first one i replaced I had to redo because i used aftermarket parts. Get it from Dodge/Chrysler
Hey Juan On my 2007 Chrysler 300C ,when I press in the recirculate button the door doesn't close like it used to door??? Do you think by replacing this part on my car, it will resolve my issue? Great video, thanks.
Hi Roberto Rivera, Not sure if just replacing them would do it if the actuator is actually working. In the case of the Charger, it has three actuators (on behind the glove box and two behind the instrument panel), and when the one behind the glove box was making noise, i took it out and tested by hand the movement of the flap it moves to make sure it was moving freely before finally realizing the Dodge/Chrysler plastics are just junk and that's why it keeps breaking. If one of the flaps is getting stuck then that could be your problem.
Best of luck to you
Roberto Rivera Did you fix the recirculation problem in your car?
I men Juan
Do you what the actuator you replace is for is it the recirculation actuator? what does the one to the left you replace do
thank you
I don't recall the function of each of the doors controlled by the actuators. Sorry.
It worked! Thanks man
Does the Dodge Charger 2011 have more than 1 air intake actuator?
Cathy, there are three total actuators. I made another video showing the replacement of the other two: ruclips.net/video/O0YgksHaFdk/видео.html
Are all three actuators the same or are each different part numbers? I have the same issue with my 2011 dodge charger
All three actuators are identical
Gracias por el video 👍🏼
De nada. Espero le sirva de ayuda.
Hey I bought a Dodge Charger a few months back and got a warranty for it, but the warrant is costing me about and extra 3k is it worth keeping it on?
I have a 2011 with about 105k miles on it, and it’s a 3 year warranty
thanks. dealership tried to charge my uncle 600 to replace his. saying it's a 8 hour job. smh
Does this move the temperature blend door or the recirculate blend door? Thanks!
TheBurnout. I only know it as the air door actuator and when mine wasn't working none of the setting for the vents would work.
Thank you. Mine's not blowing cold air and my actuator works, but the flap this actuator controls is broken.
Question for you please, I need the name of the actuator on the drivers side soo I can know which one it is the person that replaced it swamped it with one of the ones from the passenger side I know on passenger side it’s one straight ahead and it’s one to the side behind glove box but I would really appreciate it if you knew which ones they were
Hassan Williams All 3 actuators are the same part #. The part I listed on the passenger side replacement is the same with the exeption of one on the driver's side having a housing that has to be removed with it in order to be able to take it out. Good luck
Juan Castro are they all interchangeable? So a buddy of mine replaced the two on the passenger side , he replaced one by mistake that wasn’t knocking it was the one on the drivers side so he took the one on drivers side out , and replaced it with the one that he did by mistake now the one on drivers side is still knocking and the recirculation button works when it want and it still knocks I was wondering did he put the wrong one there , or can they all be swapped and do the same thing I ordered one for drivers side it will be on Monday or is each one a specific one
Hassan Williams I has 3 of them. In my Charger I took appart the entire dashboard on another video I posted, because I wanted to make sure there wasn't another one I was missing. I bought all three at the dealer for about $30 each and no more headaches. Well, for now, it's dodge plastic so it's crap right out of the dealer.
I have a dodge magnum 2005 2.7L. Just recently the driver side is blowing out cool air, and the passenger is blowing out colder air. Could this be the same issue you were having? Replacing the actuators can fix this problem? Thank you
Chris. That's very likely the problem. One of the actuators is the one that blends the air. Before replacing it make sure the AC is fully charged because some times a small leak or the AC Dryer can have the same symptom. Good luck
Yes i did, i purchased a recharge ac boost. Once i plugged it in, it says fully charged on green. Also i forgot to mention that i hear no clicking noise at all. Since i feel it warmer on driver side does that mean the driver side actuator isnt working correctly?
@@Whodie305 you're going to have to get in there and check if the air blend door is not stuck. It's a pain, but that could be the problem.
Mines acting up too. Gonna try to replace with this vid for reference
Was that causing your car to blow warm air?
Sorry, my car wasn't blowing warm air. The actuator was not working properly and it was making a clicking sound. If your car is blowing warm air, start by checking your refrigerant pressure first.
Did this fix work for everybody/anybody? Would someone with a low level of mechanical/car experience be capable of performing this fix? Thank you for any info
canucklehead2004 Other than the person having warm air blowing for some other reason, the fix seems to have worked for everyone so far. You really don't need a lot of mechanical knowledge or skills to do this fix.
Good Luck
Thank you very much Juan
What happen when you just unplug it
Should this work on a 2013 Chrysler 300? the tapping sound is in the same area.
Not sure, but the part seems to be the same. So, it's very likely to be the same cause. Good luck.
Thank you
How do you spin the little gear to fit when you put the new actuator? Mine isnt lined up
I didn't have to spin it. As you insert it in its space it goes into place.
@@juancastro6934 thank you man really appreciate the help
i saw another video on here both your video and the other guys noise sound yhe same to mine but he stated that he replaced the vent actuator motor. wondering if that the same part with different name?
same part. once you remove the part you can move the vent flap with a flathead screedriver. the actuato's function is to open and close the flap for directing airflow.
so i finally got around to replace this last night now on my way to work it started to blow insanely hot air did i do something wrong you think?
and i had it on low with ac still hot air coming out..and it was like 48 degrees out this morning in iowa haha
I had that problem with another one of my cars and I ended up having to replace the compressor and other parts. Depending on your car and your comfort level when working with AC, you might need the Compressor, accumulator and depending on your vehicle the orifice tube (and inline mesh filter). The first thing I would do is check the refrigerant level to see if it's low.
Good Luck
it was the air door blend sensor
I had the same problem, but instead of replay the door actuator..I just unplugged the battery for like 2min and and plugged back in works fine now
Can the actuator stop the car from running
No it can't. If can however drain the battery because the broken pastic gear will allow it to continue to run after the engine is turned off
these cars are not even 10 years yet
Clive Byrne exactly and my 2012 challenger sound the same way
same problem smh
I have learned to really dislike my challenger
I bought my 2011 charger brand new with 25 miles on it. It has been nothing but a money pit. Alternator. Electrical issues. Bluetooth no longer worked after a year and a half. The phone feature doesn’t work. Trunk and glove box lights are out and the list goes on. This vent actuator is the latest thing to go wrong.
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Please help me mine is not clicking but I'm getting hot on passenger and cold AC on driver side 🤔🙏
@Mark Don did u figure out what was going on I have a 07 charger Daytona and it only blows cold on passenger side and warm on driver side and when I turn the driver temp nob it makes a clicking sound on the driver side of the dash
Osvaldo Urias mine doesn't click
Mak Don same here no noise but cold on driver and hot in pass side
this problem just happened to my 2013 charger. no ac on passenger.
I'm having that same problem with mine now!
I own a dodge charger and it will be the last one I buy. I spent thousands on it
Same🤦🏿♂️
What happens if you just take it out and drive without it ?
Peter Lopez , the car has three actuators and from my understanding they direct the airflow as well as the blending of heat and cold. If you take it out the flaps/doors they control will stay in whatever position it's left and it might interfere with the working actuators' flow. They're not very expensive and the work was relatively easy. Best of luck.
Juan Castro Thanks I’m actually working on it right now that back bolt is giving me problems!
Peter Lopez That's why I used those small detachable bits. It helps if they're magnetic but once you've done it once it becomes easier. I had to do it twice because the aftermarket part didn't last long.
Juan Castro yeah I’m using the same tool and oh dang how long did it last cause I’m using the same replacement part
Peter Lopez the part from RockAuto only lasted about a year. Could have been that partucular part but I didn't want to take chances and used the dealer part the second time and it's still ok.
How do you chagne the driver side/center console? Mine is so fucked up its louder than a nuclear bomb...
Elites Engineering
ruclips.net/video/O0YgksHaFdk/видео.html
This is my other video for the actuator replacement on the other side and it shows the removal of the instrument panel. Hopefuly this helps.
good job
I replaced the passenger’s side actuator, and now not only did it not fix the issue (passenger’s side of the car only blows cold air no matter what) but the heat on the driver’s side is a lot worse now. I’m so mad.
There are 3 actuators. I posted another video here when I replaced the other two. They're a little difficult to reach but that could solve your problem. Best of luck with your project.
What was the part number for the replacement?
DORMAN 604024
Here's a link for rockauto:
www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4778277&cc=1504635&jsn=1
Thank you, your video is a much appreciated instructional.
Hey Jaun, or anyone with any helpful knowledge. I replaced the same one 2 times already, and now not even a month later and it's doing the same thing again. I also replaced the fuse under the hood. Anyone having this issue or experienced this issue, what did you do to fix.
Amariah Levi I found that the aftermarket part didn't last more than a few months. For a little over $10 from aftermarket price, i got the factory part and it hasn't given me any problems.
Juan Castro thanks man.
I noticed you didn't show how hard it is to remove the screws once you get to the actuator
Yasin B Not hard at all, I had to do it a coupke of times because the first actuator I used was aftermarket and only lasted about 6 months. I used a very small screwdriver bit's ratchet to reach and had no problems.
Juan Castro thanks I have a small ratchet but I can't get the second screw out. The first was hard but I got it. Just can't find the second one
Exactly what type of screw is that
Jamon Lipscomb , it's Torx screw size T15
Thankx
So I changed the the one behind the glove compartment it fixed the clicking sound but now cold air doesn’t come out. Does anyone know what I have to do?
I have another video showing the location and replacement of the other 2 actuator under the instrument panel. If your heater core as well as water temperature are operating properly then it could be one of the other actuators. Here's a description of their functions as described by Dodge's service manual "A temperature control determines the discharge
air temperature by operating the blend door actuator(s), which moves the blend-air door(s). This allows an almost
immediate control of the output air temperature of the system. The mode door actuator operates the mode-air doors
which direct the flow of the conditioned air out the various air outlets, depending on the mode selected. The recirculation
door actuator operates the recirculation-air door which closes off the fresh air intake and recirculates the air
already inside the vehicle."
Best of luck.
thanks for the video. my car is making that clicking noise too. hopefully it's just one actuator
Does anyone know how to recalibrate the actuator without having to go to the dealership...I replaced the blend door actuator but there's still a clicking noise coming from the AC every time I put it on defrosts mode
Jose Aguirre There ia no reseting of of the vent. you can actually move the vent flap manually towards the back or front. Just make sure it matches the position of the actuatot. Best of luck
There's a guy here on youtube with a dodge avenger that says there's not one but TWO vent actuators behind the glove box. I have to assume our Chargers have a couple of them also. You may have changed the wrong one. The avenger owner says the 1st one he change was also the wrong one.
Niners4Lyphe I changed the right one 2 times already, now I'm headed to my 3rd one. And I also changed the fuse under the hood. Why is it still doing it.
4 total. 2 per side. One for each zone of hot and cold, one for defrost, and one for recirculation that works with the humidity sensor that is on your windshield behind your rear view mirror.
@@mythcalphonics5635 did u ever fixed the problem? Im having the same issue, going for my third actuator
Why are people saying its the same game? Yes, it's the same core mechanics, but why the fuck would they change that?? They've added so may things to the game, and each cod has significant differences that are unique to that installation in the franchise. Please tell me the things they haven't changed and (this is the important part) why they should change them/what the change should be. And just so no one comments saying "your just an idiot fan boy!" I actually love battlefield as well and I didn't even buy Ghosts, and there are definitely things I don't like about cod, but I hate to see people say that its the same game every year and thats why they're not gonna play it. Was it not a fun game back in the good old days of cod 4, mw2, and black ops? why would they deviate from the things that people love about the game? And how is battlefield not the same game? How many changes were made from Battlefield 3 to Battlefield 4?