11:10 Granted, the GTR (outstanding in-house knife design from Reate) is a flat grind. Huge choil on that one, but it is also what most would consider a ‘full-size knife’ at greater than 3.5”. The Mini Ultimatum, on the other hand, is a more diminutive, EDC-friendly hollow grind config. Perhaps those are factors in deleting the choil, but I’m not sure it’s a question of machining capability in general. Seems to me more a deliberate choice to avoid choil so as to make a marginally small knife ‘feel’ bigger on the cutting edge. End of day, the machining on the GTR integral is so off-the-charts that Reate’s miss on the Mini Ultimatum’s choil surely was just a product of choice. I often weigh my knife purchases on the basis of my ability to maintain the edge, much like you. In this case, I think they were just probably trying to lengthen the edge or, if not that, simply maintain appearances. A deep, narrow choil-in the similitude of the blade jimping-probably woulda been perfect in this case. Excellent sharpening skills, by the way; VERY good-looking mirror-edge on yours, my friend!
I also just noticed that the area usually occupied by the choil on the Mini Ultimatum actually makes contact with the stop pin on close. The secret, now that I look at it, is probably hidden there! Reate is using the stop pin on both ends of the detent.
@@windstrewn4762 Good eye, and that makes it problematic if you want to cut in your own choil. I think the issue Reate has is that they either can't, or just don't want to for whatever reason, tighten up the plunge grind on their hollow grinds. In this case that would have messed with the area where the Merriken logo is, but that looks kind of weird anyway, being sort of half on and half off the plunge grind.
@@BladeLabMiamido you guys think you can cut in a choil (I'm guessing not from what I just read) and if not is there anything you can do to prolong the life of the blade? Thanks in advance. ✌️
@@bbolanda18 The stop pin hits about 1/4" behind the heel of the blade, so it would be tight. This is one where I'll just not sharpen all the way to the heel -- maybe stop 1/8" short. Since it's a recurve ... you don't have to worry about creating a recurve. 😀
Great knife, what size glove do you wear, I'm asking because I'm not sure if it would fit my hand, how did it feel in your hand? I wear a large-X large glove depending on the glove.
I wear a L glove size -- probably have average-sized hands for a guy. If you're an XL I think this one might be too tight for you, because it's a very locked-in grip and it fits my hand very well.
Gald you liked the video. I sharpen for friends, family, neighbors, etc., but it's not really a business for me. What are you looking to get sharpened?
@@BladeLabMiami I have an Artisan Revel s90v that I just got, factory edge, not looking for a reprofile, just a good sharpening. thanks for the reply .
@@shawnfallahi5616 I'd be happy to do it for you for a minimal charge if you cover shipping. Personally I'd recommend taking the angle down to at least 17°, but that's obviously your call.
@@shawnfallahi5616 Yes, you'd definitely get wider bevels, but in exchange you get better cutting performance and better edge retention. Everything's a trade off, as my father liked to say. I generally go for the better performance over aesthetics, but within limits. Your knife, your choice! The width of the bevel depends on the angle, but also the existing thickness behind the edge, the height of the grind, flat versus hollow, etc. For example, if it's a tall grind and it's around 12 thousandths behind the edge from the factory, going to 17° probably won't be too noticeable. On the other hand, if it's already 20 thou bte at 22°, going to 17° will probably result in very wide bevels.
Yeah, it could be too small if you have really big hands. I wear a large-size glove and it fits perfectly in the standard grip. Choked up you should have no problem.
I vote we call the blade a bellied tanto Bowie
I think you'd at least have to go with, "bellied compound ground recurve tanto bowie." Or just stick with, "whatever you call this." 😂
@@BladeLabMiami lol
11:10 Granted, the GTR (outstanding in-house knife design from Reate) is a flat grind. Huge choil on that one, but it is also what most would consider a ‘full-size knife’ at greater than 3.5”. The Mini Ultimatum, on the other hand, is a more diminutive, EDC-friendly hollow grind config. Perhaps those are factors in deleting the choil, but I’m not sure it’s a question of machining capability in general. Seems to me more a deliberate choice to avoid choil so as to make a marginally small knife ‘feel’ bigger on the cutting edge. End of day, the machining on the GTR integral is so off-the-charts that Reate’s miss on the Mini Ultimatum’s choil surely was just a product of choice. I often weigh my knife purchases on the basis of my ability to maintain the edge, much like you. In this case, I think they were just probably trying to lengthen the edge or, if not that, simply maintain appearances. A deep, narrow choil-in the similitude of the blade jimping-probably woulda been perfect in this case. Excellent sharpening skills, by the way; VERY good-looking mirror-edge on yours, my friend!
I also just noticed that the area usually occupied by the choil on the Mini Ultimatum actually makes contact with the stop pin on close. The secret, now that I look at it, is probably hidden there! Reate is using the stop pin on both ends of the detent.
@@windstrewn4762 Good eye, and that makes it problematic if you want to cut in your own choil. I think the issue Reate has is that they either can't, or just don't want to for whatever reason, tighten up the plunge grind on their hollow grinds. In this case that would have messed with the area where the Merriken logo is, but that looks kind of weird anyway, being sort of half on and half off the plunge grind.
@@BladeLabMiamido you guys think you can cut in a choil (I'm guessing not from what I just read) and if not is there anything you can do to prolong the life of the blade? Thanks in advance. ✌️
@@bbolanda18 The stop pin hits about 1/4" behind the heel of the blade, so it would be tight. This is one where I'll just not sharpen all the way to the heel -- maybe stop 1/8" short. Since it's a recurve ... you don't have to worry about creating a recurve. 😀
@@BladeLabMiami thanks for the response.
Great knife, what size glove do you wear, I'm asking because I'm not sure if it would fit my hand, how did it feel in your hand? I wear a large-X large glove depending on the glove.
I wear a L glove size -- probably have average-sized hands for a guy. If you're an XL I think this one might be too tight for you, because it's a very locked-in grip and it fits my hand very well.
@@BladeLabMiami thank you.
Do you sharpen for customers, or ..would you? I like what I see on this one. thanks for the vid, too
Gald you liked the video. I sharpen for friends, family, neighbors, etc., but it's not really a business for me. What are you looking to get sharpened?
@@BladeLabMiami I have an Artisan Revel s90v that I just got, factory edge, not looking for a reprofile, just a good sharpening. thanks for the reply .
@@shawnfallahi5616 I'd be happy to do it for you for a minimal charge if you cover shipping. Personally I'd recommend taking the angle down to at least 17°, but that's obviously your call.
@@BladeLabMiami understood. wouldnt laying the angle back like that cause for a wide(r) bevel?
@@shawnfallahi5616 Yes, you'd definitely get wider bevels, but in exchange you get better cutting performance and better edge retention. Everything's a trade off, as my father liked to say. I generally go for the better performance over aesthetics, but within limits. Your knife, your choice!
The width of the bevel depends on the angle, but also the existing thickness behind the edge, the height of the grind, flat versus hollow, etc. For example, if it's a tall grind and it's around 12 thousandths behind the edge from the factory, going to 17° probably won't be too noticeable. On the other hand, if it's already 20 thou bte at 22°, going to 17° will probably result in very wide bevels.
I really wanted the full size and missed it. I want to jump on this one but I’m afraid it won’t work well with my ham hands
Yeah, it could be too small if you have really big hands. I wear a large-size glove and it fits perfectly in the standard grip. Choked up you should have no problem.