Neon Genesis Evangelion - The End of Evangelion [FINALE...AGAIN] - Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
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The 2nd of 3+ endings of Eva?! Evangelion ends a lot guys. It's a metaphor for...something? The #Chooms sit down together to watch a classic of the mech genre, and anime on the whole : Neon Genesis Evangelion AKA EVA, for short. It's a wild ride from the get-go, so hurry up and get in the Robot (so to speak).
The Normies review and discuss The End of Evangelion after the reaction! Let's wrap this up with a bang!
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Short and simple explanation:
Shinji caves in and starts Instrumentality, causing everyone to turn into orange Fanta and morph into one being, with everyone’s consciousness being mixed together so everyone knows everything of each other. Last 2 episodes of the main show are what happens in Shinji’s mind as this is happening. He realizes he wants to live, stops Instrumentality, and everyone can decide for themselves whether or not they want to come back. Shinji and Asuka are the first to do so, Shinji makes sure it’s real by choking Asuka out, Asuka comforts him bc she understands his pain after being morphed with everyone, and she also knows about the hospital scene too-hence the “disgusting” line.
that is certainly one way to look at it....
"short and simple explanation:" I don't think it's definative tho....
holy Jesus you're a hero, I get it all now, the last piece of the puzzle has been solved
THANK YOU I FINALLY FUCKING UNDERSTOOD THE ENDING
Anno actually wasn't getting the "disgusting" line he wanted, it wasn't poignant enough, so Anno asked Asuka's VA, if a man broke into her house, and came into her bedroom while she was sleeping, he could have raped or murdered her, but instead he masturbates over her while she's asleep, how would she react if she woke up? "Disgusting" she said
Arigatou bro ❤
Micky started off well guessing Yui/Rei and then went full conspiracy lunatic.
you can figure out rei is a yui clone from like episode 17 dude
What the fuck are you talking about? I meant he figured it out way earlier in the series and by the end he's knee deep in fanfiction@@YusukeLover6969
@@YusukeLover6969He called it way before episode 17.
@@anotheryoutubeuserFair point. Love the cosmic soul destruction their 3rd eve felt😂❤
@@YusukeLover6969 So like 2-3 episodes before they tell you? He guessed it way earlier.
Yeah, Mickey should never cook again 😂💀
From his theory here and in the "Drunk NGE" explanation video, man is really going 0 for 100 lmao
The problem is not him cooking. The problem is him taking it and running with it as if it is actually the truth. it wasnt a theory for him he had "figured it out" lmao
I love people theorizing though. That’s the fun of it for new viewers.
Mickey clapped himself the entire movie trying to galaxy brain the movie explaining itself in plain terms and its hilarious
I mean the anime is 100% metaphor, so if Mickey's reality is about being a stepbrother, let him be. It's till about becoming a operating person and various trauma along the way, Mickey is off mark just for his "what we saw is not reality" thing
Yes but there is also a good amount of info in the movie being presented as this is what is happening that was not being taken as this is what is happening and its funny
@@GreatNinjaJordan It's obvious they watched this with a very different mindset. I guess too much Evangelion broke them, we enjoyed all of it over 15 years
i don't agree with 100% that's just false where did you get that from lol@@JacopoBasanisi
It’s weird cause most anime shonen also have tons of metaphor and should get some more analysis but only Eva gets that attention to detail while everyone trashes on other shows. Not saying Eva is less or more “deep” just that from dbz to jjk and the like I’ve seen and discussed plot beats that are deeper than good beats bad yet people always make you seem like your wrong for thinking about shonen past fights no substance. It reminds me of the attack on titan effect. People hated it when it was so popular first season as the elites thought it was all hype no substance and quit. Then when it got deeper in a more obvious way they didn’t understand the clues in earlier seasons and said it’s better not trying to be pseudo deep and political. Then dropped it or hated on the ending and coped that there was a anime original ending and when there wasn’t and anime onlies liked it opposed to hating it like they thought they couldn’t fall back and agree all the time drip feeds of the story and not funny getting it made them hate it. Nope they doubled down and said the few strips of lines that were basically equal to translation changes ie official takes on what they said made the ending somehow different and told anime onlies trust me the manga is different this anime ending fixed it. The amount of saving face. I get it but I wish we all just came clean and listened to people if we didn’t get the ending or story instead of hating on it ( all stories aot was an example.) and tried to pay attention like they do watching Eva and even if our fan theories don’t pan out don’t just immediately say bad writing. (I’m not including people who “get” stories and still hate them or just have the opinion or take that they just hate a thing) more like just people who hate but don’t really come from good faith tries to engage with the story. Normies made good faith push to engage with Eva when we all thought they would hate it. Or atleast I did lol
just a note: Shinji didn't got into the eva in time not becouse he didn't wanted to, but the entry point was COVERED in bakelite and it was impossible for him to get in...
OHHH SHITTT I NEVER EVEN NOTICEDD
I will be waiting for the Rebuild reactions! It will be full circle. You will understand everthing (kinda). And by the way, the song is Komm suesser Tod, and was written by Hideaki Anno himself. Read the lyrics, it has a lot to do with the plot of Evangelion.
39:34
This is the REAL Asuka
50:18
And that was the only show of affection that Asuka gives to Shinji in the entire series and movie franchise.
@@MrDeath5300 yeah, but shinji never ate what shikinami cooked, he only ate part of his Eva 😬😅😬
No it wasn't. She thanked him when he saved her from the volcano. She complemented his violin playing and was at the hospital when he got injured, and that moment if you want to include it. The instrumentality lays all people's emotions bare, that's why Asuka, the one who wants to be seen as independent hates being combined with everyone and is shown physically enraged. She hates it, which is why(after Shinji) she's the first to come back from instrumentality.
Nge Asuka gets enough of a bad rep without people purposely saying things like this like she has never been nice. Not to mention Rebuilds take her grouchy-ness to 100 for no reason. She's way worse in those.
I'd say that was how Shinji sees Asuka.
@@neonthehedgehog12 I disagree with that last statement. She's angrier and more annoying, yes, but she also shows just as much affection if not more by the end of 4. Just in her own strange assholey way.
@@littleredruri yes, your right, she does more nicer things in the movies. Yeah she cooks for him in the 2nd but he never eats it or finds out or talk about it. Yes she looks after him in 4, but it's followed by frustration that she takes out on him from the entire 3rd movie on and most people wouldn't call that nice even if I agree it was for his on good in the 4th movie. NGE Asuka did surprisingly little of those toxic things and was nicer a little as she did and yet cause of the rebuilds that is how people talk about her overall cause that's all everyone sees.
The point I'm getting at is that she's not bad in NGE and all that physical abuse comes from the rebuild version of her character which honestly in my opinion is worse written because all her affection is offset by her aggression far more, but your right she does "care" more.
The whole 3rd impact is a hard reset. Shinji and Asuka are the new Adam and Eve - the biblical ones, I mean.
Exactly
43:24
Komm Süsser Tod !
The entire Evangelion OST is great, but the movies take it to another level
Mickeys theory of this show is one of the weirder ones I've heard lol
So based on Mickey's theory... Shinji jerked off to himself?
That’s what happens when someone doesn’t pay attention to the themes lol
honestly mickeys theorys on most of the reactions hes on are some of the wildest ive seen and im here for it
I don't think it's that weird, because the story kinds of puts that in as a possibility (perhaps to intentionally add to the sense of confusion) and it does it both in the show and the EoE movie.
Maybe what happened to Mickey (which I bet has happened to all of us some time) was that, since he was so convinced in his theory when those misleading alternate timelines/realities were shown, he might have been overly sceptical when the plot returned to the canon/Nerv world
And since the story is a lot more inclined to abstract and subjective content than most, it's bound to happen. For example: in my perspective, even though the "teased" alternate possibilities might have been done in a way that kept the "confusion" vibe, it's main goal was indeed to see Shinji's dynamics with the other characters as a literal family unit.
But its motivation wasn't to make you think THAT was reality, but to build a bridge between all these core and basic identity themes with the "canon" story. It's a way for the author to give perspective through comparison, which not only helps you understand the characters better, but it can also trigger emotional connections between them and viewers who have an either conscious or unconscious response to much more relatable dynamics.
I hadn't actually thought about the "Asuka being Shinji" part, but it made perfect sense to me, IF you see it from the point of view of that alternate reality theory.
Guessing plotlines is a very satisfying feeling that I thoroughly enjoy, but sometimes it backfires when it sets expectations. Regardless, it's still part of the fun, because even if you get good at doing it, there's always the chance of being surprised, one way or another.
Oh you sweet summer child
"Why the fuck did you want to watch that?"
"I liked it."
"What the fuck WAS it?"
"I loved it!"
"WHAT was it."
"Its GREAT is what it is!"
Me in any conversation about Evangelion.
LMAO, if there was an Olympic competition for having the wrong take or misunderstanding a piece of media, Micky would have won the Gold Medal.
Loved your series of Evangelion reactions guys, i really hope you give the Rebuilds movie a chance.
Edit: i just saw that you already have the Rebuilds up on your Patreon haha, yeeey!!
Evangelion fans when someone doesn't watch Evangelion before taking an Psychology and Philosophy university course
Literally
Eva fans expecting in-going watchers to have a full grasp on Freudian psychology and themes fr fr
Evangelion has many different themes, some more significant than others while some are there merely to keep the user engaged. The key theme of evangelion is realising your self-worth and opening yourself to others despite the pain it may bring. Take care and love yourself.
Bakelite isn't the same as LCL (the fluid inside the entry plug). While Bakelite is the name of a type of resin used in stuff like kitchenware and electrical plugs, the "bakelite" in the series is nothing like the real substance.
I'd forgotten just how much of a bop Komm Susser Tod is.
And now we can probably tackle stuff that's technically only sorta canon, because it comes from stuff like a databook and the PS2 video game. Lilith and Adam are both "Seeds of Life" which were created by a precursor race to seed life throughout the galaxy. Each seed had its own transport vessel (moon), 'dead sea scrolls' (essentially an instruction manual) and Spear of Longinus. The spear acted as a safeguard, to disable the Seed if necessary. Each Seed could choose one of two paths for the life that would come from them. The Fruit of Life would create something with incredible power that can choose and manipulate its own physical form. The Fruit of Knowledge would create something mortal, with a fixed form, that relies on cooperation for strength.
Adam was contained within the White Moon, which landed in the antarctic. Lilith was contained in the Black Moon, the very top of which became the Geofront. The two Seeds weren't supposed to land on the same planet, and Adam's spear disabled him, allowing life descended from Lilith to spread across the earth. Adam stayed dormant until the Katsuragi Expedition disturbed him by removing the Spear, causing 2nd Impact.
Asuka in the dream world was his childhood friend not adoptive sister
A different answer to a different problem
In the anime ending, Shinji seeks the will to live and how to love himself because he can't live with who he is and fears that, while he wishes people were kinder to him, he also feels that he deserves that, he's a coward.
In this movie, Shinji seeks a why to live, but not because he can't love himself (a bit of that too) but because he just fucking HATES THIS WORLD, because the world hurts him, why live in a world where people only hurt you? who don't understand you?
In the anime Shinji finds an answer which is rather wholesome, in this movie he also finds one? like
He does find an answer, but it's a bit more cynical
he actually comes to the same realization here that he does in the series..it's just presented in a bleaker way, but he ultimately rejected instrumentality by coming to the same conclusions. in the end, he chose to accept the pain that comes with life because he still gets to live a life (accepting himself in the process) as well as everyone else if they so choose to come back, which asuka was the first to do so (which also represents her growth as a person after all that she's been through). to me, its a lot less cynical and a lot more of a hopeful ending after the chaos the series and movie presented up to that point.
Its actually simple, to live or to not live (considering that living means being hurt constantly by others, but not living means absolutely emptiness)? Shinjii chooses to live in the original anime and in the movie, in the anime we see a very realistically representation of what goes through a mind of someone with depression coming to that conclusion (to live), in the movie its the same thing, just presented differently to give a bit of a more dramatic take (like the world is ending and there's a giant naked teenager in the sky, pretty dramatic right?) But it's the same thing, it basically means someone depressed choosing to live even if it means getting hurt.
I believe that the TV Ending complements EOE's ending, with the series being Shinjis apart of instrumentality
“it’s all in (main character’s) head” could literally apply to any form of media ever.
Hardly. The finale of the show coexisting with this movie only makes sense if you take it that way whereas you could probably handpick any other media that works without this explanation.
And that's why it's always the most boring "theory" for any show.
Super prevalent in theories about kids shows. "It's all a dream." "They were in purgatory." etc.
While I'm sure there's a way to pull it off in a satisfactory way, 99% of the time it's just a cheap copout because the writer couldn't come up with a better ending.
its all in le head
I’ve never been so annoyed during a video than when he started claiming it’s all a dream . One of the dumbest things I ever heard .
@@bespectacledheroine7292 How????
I think if you want an explanation of what actually happened in the movie, it's pretty simple. However, what it MEANS and what Shinji is actually thinking is highly debatable.
In terms of events, instrumentality occurs with the third impact, and all of humanity is fused into one when lilith/rei gathers their souls into the egg. Shinji, Eva-01, and Rei, however being the people used to start instrumentality, including the fact that Rei is shinji's mom and Eva is shinji's mom also, allowed shinji to decide the course of events. He tells the newly made god that is his mother/rei that he wishes against instrumentality, and he, along with asuka, are the first humans to re-emerge from the sea of LCL. The world is in a nightmare state, the ocean is the color of blood, a giant corpse covers the land, and the moon is stained with the blood of god. There's no undoing what's been done. But as said in the movie, anywhere can be paradise if you have the will to live.The entire rest of humanity is still liquidized, but they can return to human form by undertaking self actualization in the same way Shinji and presumably Asuka have.
Now, what is Anno trying to say with all this? What is Shinji's mental state? What does Shinji and Asuka's interaction at the end mean? Is the tv finale canon to this movie, with it's events taking place inside the egg of instrumentality? Your guess is as good as mine. I don't think anyone, even Anno, can say for sure what it means.
Spot on explanation. I’d say at the end Shinji still tried to choke out Asuka to see if everything is in fact actual reality instead of the loopy madness that happened in his mind. Asuka’s little hand rub against his cheek is a sign of affection towards him-and since everyone on the entire planet was one being for a short moment, they all know each others thoughts and struggles/pains-as to say and comfort Shinji that she understands his feelings/pain now, and Shinji breaks down because someone finally understands. Asuka’s last line too I always thought was her way of saying she found out about the hospital scene and calls him out for it lol
- Shinji is battling with his depression trying to decide if he should live or give up
- The human instrumentality is a project created and supported by people who are afraid of getting hurt and hurting other people (Ikari mentions he shouldn't get close to shinji because he doesn't want to hurt him, also he wants the instrumentality to happen so he can get rid of the pain from the death of his wife and be with her again)
- The events from ep 25/26 are what goes through Shinji's (and everyone's) mind while the instrumentality is happening
-Shinji chokes Asuka when they come back because during the instrumentality he did it but there's no reaction from Asuka meaning it wasn't real, since she reacts this time it means she's alive and it's real, that's why he's crying.
Since we are now diving into the meaning of this show, I HEAVILY suggest watching the video from "Wisecrack" called "The Loneliest Anime - The Philosophy of Neon Genesis Evangelion - Wisecrack Edition." It's by people who actually have a profession in philosophy and it's one of the most excellent video essay breakdowns of this show as a whole. You guys already independently garnered bits and pieces of the meaning, and this video essay is the grade-A-glue for all of it.
It's clear that they need to do a metric ton of research. But I don't trust them to be able to do it on their own time. So your suggestions is probably the best in these comments.
@@Faynwulf +1 on this
I want to know where Mickey got this Asuka the adopted sister idea from
From the ending of the anime, when she wakes him up for school.
@@Ceroreactsbut she's his childhood friend in that not his adopted sister. She even says it and states she goes to his house every morning to wake him up from school. Yui even states she's such a good friend to shinji
@@CodeeXD ur definitely right, i’m just saying thats where he’s getting it 😂 he might just be on a ramble though
You don’t get Evangelion. Evangelion gets you.
Exactly. The Instructment tally project completed them.
The one thing I will say is that this movie completely made me love asuka by far the best character in this series.
Shinji is ridiculously clear of the rest of the cast
@@deanward6001He's good but idk about all of them, that's a wild opinion.
@@neonthehedgehog12 I genuinely cannot see how anyone comes close, every major message the series tries to explore is pushed through him, eva is pretty much just a massive character study of shinji, his dynamics,thematic expression, characterisation, everything is just very clear of anyone else. This can be applied to pretty much any MC as most series the MC is the character who is the most fleshed out and explored. There are very few series where the Mc is not the best character. Obviously it’s entirely subjective but in a general sense of the word “best” the MC is typically the best
Shinji, Asuka and Rei are sort of 3 edges from the same triangle, in a way they represent different feelings/traumas that comes from the same person. Personally i really like Shinji and Rei
The director of FLCL directed the first half of this movie.
What is Mickey waffling about LMAO
Basically he just realizes that this is not what he wanted. When Rei rejected Gendo, she basically gave the option to Shinji but then Shinji realized that for him, he needed the physical world from before in order to understand himself.
So now people can come back if they want to. And i have seen some people blame Shinji for destroying the world, but Gendo would have done it anyways. Which its actually possible that the original NGE Ending is one where Gendo becomes God since at the end of that we see him with Yui.
Mickey is not dropping this dream theory.
even if they dont react to the rebuilds, i hope they watch them on their own time. 3.0+1.0 is a phenomenal conclusion to this franchise.
it´s kinda funny that micky get the escapist dream as the reality and the reality as the escapist dream xd
Well in a way he's right, considering the author was very depressed when he wrote this it was sort of a escapist dream for him.
Watching End of Evangelion is to get a contact high from Hideaki Anno
Ok, I've seen this movie a thousand times in my youth, but right now, at this very moment, after 20 years, I feel like I understand the ending perfectly.
42:07 I really "Like" this scene in a narrative and technical level, in the end of the anime Shinji says that "It's ok for me to be here in this world!"
WHERE IN THIS, When he ASKS if it's ok for he to be here and he has no response
46:15 Those are mostly threats that Anno and Gainax received because of the original ending for anime of Eva
only one of them is, most of them were positive
I feel like people over play the idea that everyone hated the ending and threatened him. Like most who weren’t on board can tell early that the series wasn’t for you if you wanted something simple. The people who massively hate it today pushed through to watch it to get the hype and hate it either cause they get confused or understand it and think it’s simple surprisingly since a lot of explainations are out there and the story is clear if you pay attention and new shows tackled the ideas as they were inspired by this. It’s akin to people who hate the AOT ending for being cliche cause they watched C…. G…s. Today just a bit of similarity hurts as everyone is looking for that elusive “unique” idea to say they watch something not generic.
@@nichescenesthis is entirely my opinion, but I think if you do understand Eva you can even dislike it but not deny its greatness, especially considering that Eva basically inspired like 70% of the animes that came after.
@@denial1004 yeah true. Opinions and all. I listened to a podcast called panning the stream and they loved it at first and thought it was mature storytelling and called out dbz for being simple and they loved that parts let story breathe and it did show don’t tell. Etc. then by the end the wife hated it and said it was all pointless. She compared it to my hero academia and how they did similar topics right. I got what she meant and many fans agreed with her so tons feel against the series. I agree with her in one way yeah my hero can handle topics it talked about in Eva because they can simplify them for a mass audience but that doesn’t make it necessarily best. So my point is yeah people can hate it but like you sorta said ya gotta hopefully respect it. The wife also liked it more when she ended up watching the films. The husband like it all for the most part
They've been building up to the Third Impact event and it was as weird, horrifying, extravagant and epic as expected. I felt like the Rebuild films overdid the Impact events though that it became less special. But other than that, I thought Rebuild had a satisfying conclusion though. Regardless whether you believe in the time loop theory, I think the Rebuilds is an essential part of the whole experience.
Micky : this movie is all over the place. Nah bro you’re the one all over the place, what do you mean Asuka is Shinji sister and this is all dream 😭
"The last thing she did was kiss a minor" 😂😂
Mickey’s theory is entertaining, Mickey’s insistence that he’s right is not as entertaining…
😊❤
I like OG Eva, but I hadn't 'rewatched' it in years because of how heavy and convoluted it is. I love new Eva. The Rebuild films are genuinely pleasant to watch while not abandoning the mysticism and violence. You will find them far, far easier to get through and understand.
Mickey's theorizing brought me back to the early internet, where debates over OG Eva's meaning/themes/ending were a fast track to genuinely vicious arguments over lorecraft lolol.
I enjoyed seeing them trying to piece everything together. I think they’ll understand the rebuilds better if they decide to watch them.
The End of Evangelion is a masterpiece. Anime of the 90s strike a different note with the pieces of hope they put into pessimistic realism. This work was a masterpiece when it was released in 1997, 25 years have passed and it is still a masterpiece. And no one seems to shake it's throne...
With the passage of time I'm learning that animes are basically a representation of the era they were made into, the reason why there were so many great animes from the 90s (especially psychological ones) its because of many things that were happening at the time, like some philosophers were going crazy with their thesis and studying things like the borderline personalities or the fact that we were just entering the post modern era with the internet rising and global warming and so and so
@@denial1004 I totally agree, you can even see the impact of not only global events but also the socio-cultural situation of Japan at the 90's. You can see the decline of the Japanese economy after its peak in 1995 and the starting effects of urbanization on the works.
In almost all the works of that period (gits, bebop, lain, perfect blue, eva...) you can see the pressure of the city on people in an incredible way. While this may sometimes be based on not being able to make sense of reality with city scenes where you can only hear the sound of music, as in Gits, or sometimes you can turn the city noise into a horror narrative, as in Perfect Blue.
33:08 its not a second spear, its the original spear, the one used by the Eva Series (the vulture wings) its a clone of the original spear... the original was put on the moon in episode 22 by Rei Ayanami when she defeated Arael by throwing him the spear into his position in space...
"Comatitties" 🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏
The rapid displays of hatred, compassion, and disgust between Asuka and Shinji right at the end were just an example of the turbulence and uncertainty that comes with humans existing separately from each other. The human condition itself that Shinji has been running from but now accepts.
They planned to make this ending but they lacked time (to produce and to squeeze it in 45 minutes) so Anno decided to change the 2 remaming episodes and focus on the deep theme of the show rather than the lore aspect. Then, later, they decided to make the movie, not as a way to please the fans (this is some wet fan theory there, let'sbe real) but because the show was super popular despite the ending. There was money to be made and I suppose Anno wanted to give it a second "better" shot as well.
Damn yall thinking they were adopted siblings made me realized you guys didnt understand many parts of this
"This sad bastard." is my favorite quote hahaha 27:11
this is one of the greatest films of all time, it is def a lot so the reactions are understandable
12:32 bakelite is colored plastic, developed in 1907. If you've ever seen a red, rotary phone from the last century You've seen something made out of the stuff. They're filling the halls with molten plastic.
Evangelion is basically just a merciless takedown of stories that purport what teenage heroes are supposed to look like and be. Shinji's journey is just him learning self-acceptance, which is why I think that although EoE is better than the last two episodes just looking at what these are in a vacuum, 25 and 26 work infinitely better as a finale. I watched those first and then the movie but honestly I kind of wish I'd done the opposite and it's what I recommend to everyone. I'm in agreement with those who say the movie and the episodes are overlapping each other but EoE is happening externally while 25/26 happen internally, within Shinji's mind. I think ending on that more introspective as opposed to bombastic place is the better move.
At this point I definitely enjoy the show finale more.
@@Renoistic I felt like that at first because again I thought it was the better ending but isolating the two EoE definitely has a suitably "epic" quality. I can see why a lot of people prefer it but I think anybody who thinks the last two eps are bad had just been in it for giant robots and Misato's....assets.
25 and 26 aren’t bad but I do think EoE eclipses them in just about every way. I never quite bought Shinji’s 180-degree turn to self-actualization in 30 seconds at the end of Ep 26.
I think the final scene on the beach in EoE is perfect. Shinji has made the difficult choice to end Instrumentality and return to his individual form but it’s not all “Congratulations!” He’s inviting infinite pain and suffering into his life, and the life of anyone who chooses to return. And that return is utterly overwhelming as he chokes a newly-formed Asuka until she, in a rare act of compassion, gives him a tender caress on his face.
It’s so bittersweet. There’s a hint of hope that things may get better but it’s a foregone conclusion that with human interaction comes misunderstanding and pain. I think it’s so much more fitting thematically and true to the characters.
@@bespectacledheroine7292I listened to panning the stream. A dude from giant bomb is on it with his wife and she hated the show after the ending eps. She clairifies what a lot on Reddit said(those who hate it or this series) and it’s not people who come for action she doesn’t care about action and likes adult theme show etc. I think people just want the show to function on basic abc plot structure mystery and answers. Etc. to be fair I think those same type of people also watch tons of shows and claim most are generic so when they see this I’d assume they want something profound and deep or different but they don’t they and a lot of people. They want something familiar and digestible. This on paper isn’t digestible for basic audiences. That said those watching are mostly not basic audiences. And come for the stuff here but the last two eps for someone like that are redundant as they already picked up on the subtle clues and those that didn’t already quit watching as they thought it was generic monster of the week and no depth. It’s akin to people told to watch invincible tv show and coming back saying I quit after 5 min it’s generic superhero justice league rip off. Those who realize what it’s going watch on and aren’t shocked that it’s different. Those who left would have been shocked but can’t stay long enough to notice so you lose no matter what trying to interest people. (Until hype sets in and spoils it so people watch)
Yeah me too, first time I watched Eva i preferred the EoE ending because of the visuals and everything, now that I'm an adult and have gone through depression the original ending feels way better, even if you just isolate the last two eps from the rest of the anime they still have a great message for someone who's battling with self-doubt/self-hatred/shame etc...
Now, before the new Evangelion movies, you guys might wanna check out a video explaining the lore of Evangelion to grasp a better sense of all the plot points. The Evas, Angels, Dead Sea Scrolls, the Human Intrumentality Project, etc. since I see this as the best pausing point for the series before continuing into the new movies.
This movie and the way everything was portrayed supposed to gritty and grotesque. As much as NGE is about cool robot fights, its even more about the representation of human who are psychologically broken and a very visual representation of mental health decline. Anno in the new movies picked up evangelion with the same lore but reworked the ending completely to give it a more finalized and polished tone. Its his complete vision of Neon Genesis Evangelion and left most of the fanbase rather pleased.
Shinji: kills everyone. rejects instrumentality and comes back because he realizes that it wasn't what he wants.
Asuka: rejects instrumentality and comes back to tell Shinji he's disgusting. Fucking savage.
The way they talked over the entire Misato's death scene, completely nullifying its emotional impact, just because they were offended that she kissed Shinji, is really frustrating...
Yeah but it's a reasonable reaction for your first time watching it
Basically in the end Asuka says that because of the hedgehog dilemma between she and Shinji. They could never get close. The only time Shinji acts on Asuka is at the hospital scene and its disgusting. He never gets the courage to reciprocate her feelings nor her his. All the characters in this show are just trying to show love but failing miserably because of all the baggage they have.
Also why Misato kisses Shinji. She only knows how to do sexual stuff to confort others. Doesnt know how to be a proper mother/mentor
Crazy to think that Misato's dad was probably a 'fuckboy' since she said Kaji reminded her of him and she turned out to gain people attention through sexuality keeping that part of her dad in her even if she despised it, the same thing for Asuka, her mom was desperate for attention and when her father cheats on her she goes crazy, Asuka subconsciously acts just like her mother wanting to feel deserved of love all the time even if it is by hurting others because she's afraid to be abandoned again.
And that`s it, The End of Evangelion. A film that almost nobody understands at first view.
Never let Micky cook again
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Yo im dead where did Micky get the idea that Gendoh is abusive towards Yui and that Asuka is an adopted child 💀🫠
God, how can Mickey be so WRONG about everything he says?! that's almost admirable
Yeah it all happend, it's not some "it was all a dream" story, but it's all metaphors for real life stuff ofc, but marrying yourself to an evangelion theory after just one viewing is not a good idea. Thats how most esoteric stories go though, and this one does indeed continue in Rebuild.
Sock Sensei made a couple really good video essays about making sense of Evangelion, you should check them out.
Ah the beauty of Evangelion reactions. Moans of suffering and the most absurd lines out of context that humans can utter. It was pleasure to relive this journey woth the four of you.
Ask 100 people what is the best show ever made and you may get 100 different answers, but there is something special about Eva. The raw emotion of it all, that has never had an equal and maybe never will.
Not the best, it is the most special.
Who let Micky cook?
I'm not sure if all of you want to try out Space Runaway Ideon movie from 1982. It was made for two parts and produced by Yoshiyuki Tomino who known for creating early Gundam series. The movie itself can be found in RUclips.
PS: This 1982 sci-fi/ mecha animated film is the inspiration for End Of Evangelion.
I highly respected and appreciated how deeply invested Mickey was in his theory and personal interpretation of his overall big picture -despite being 100% incorrect- 😂
I love you Mickey, keep being amazing on camera my brother. Thanks Normies for this much needed final reaction to this absolute masterpiece.
I promise once it finally clicks and you have that "ohhhhh I get it!" moment. You will look back at this moment and probably chuckle to yourselves.
I have seen this series + EoE 3 times and still learn new things every time rofl. A lot of my understanding comes from reading lore on wikis, which is kinda unfortunate as I'm not smart enough to piece this stuff together
56:03 pretty much my reaction. 😂 "What happened? What is real? Are we still in it?"
I was very cautious when Rebuild of Evangelion was announced but it was well worth the wait to have this story streamlined (as much as possible).
All I know is not treating these teenagers for their mental health and then expecting them to be able to fix the world or stand up in fight was a bad idea. I do understand why people get upset with Shinji in this movie, but every time I see this, I think this kid is done. His mental health and self-worth are gone. How do you then expect him to get it together and save the day?
Did anyone else think Yui manipulated this whole thing to get the outcome she wanted? Intentionally brought Shinji to the test for Unit 01 knowing she would be absorbed, to intentionally traumatize Shinji so he would become a pilot?
Yui definetly had multiple hands in how this all went down and she got what she wanted in the End, an eternal Monument to Mankinds existence. And it is stated explicitly that Seele destroyed Shinjis Ego ON PURPOSE to use him as the activator for their Plan and that he would want the same thing they want, since Yui fucked with their process by fusing herself to the activation Key, that being Unit1/Lillith. So it was necessary to get Shinji, who is now the only person who can be the one to initiate Third Impact, to do what you want him to do. Its bascially a threeway battle over control/destruction of Shinjis Ego and actions between Yui, SEELE and Gendo to all use them for their own Ends. The only thing im not entirely sure on is if Yui wanted Instrumentality to happen or not, but it was probably a part of her Plan towards her EVA monument.
Fr it pisses me off no one understands something so SIMPLE about shinji
@@datzfatz2368never tought about it, maybe Yui abandoned her family because she knew the plan Seele had and she decided to do her own thing to save the day. At the end of the day everyone's abusing shinji anyway, at least Yui has a good purpose I guess
Its crazy how obvious it is that micky looked up like everything before watching it
32:37 why??? Because Gendo has an Adam's embryo in his hand, he needs to put that seed on lilith (Rei's body) to fertilize her and make the forbidden union, that's will make the Gates of guf will open and he could recover Yui, first he wanted to save mankind, then he just want to recover his wife.
There was an attempt of making a live action movie back in 2003. The concept art of the Evas/locations didn't look bad but the art of the pilots had different names Asuka was named Kate Rose, Rei was Ray.
Welp, subscribed to patreon just to see this reaction but was honestly quite disappointed. You guys were so good with the introspection and analysis of the messages behind the themes throughout the whole series, but here, at the end, where we it see it all come to its thematic conclusions, you guys seemed to be so over it, Shinji especially, and just took things at face value.
To be fair, on a recent rewatch I felt DONE with the move by the last 15 minutes or so.
It can be quite confusing when watching for the first time, especially considering they didn't understand a thing about nerv or seele. I wont judge them i didn't understand either when I first watched it
Perfect ending, the world ended with the 3rd impact, Shinji and Asuka became the new Adam and Eve.
The interesting thing is that we have the new GOD that is Rei and we have the new Adam and Eva, that is Shinji and Asuka. Something fun that I will ask do you remember the Rei in the first episode? is she the Rei in the final movie? did she travel time?
Maybe 🤪❤
Yeah there's a "ghost" Rei in the first ep. In the rebuilds I remember they mention something like that
@@denial1004 that Rei shows up at the end of Eva
Misato was just cleaning Shinji's tonsils for him. It was the motherly thing to do.
What the hell... I just finished the show and movies again and was in the mood for a reaction... and you guys just uploaded it.
Finally!!!!!! I thought you were going to dodge this reaction. Can't wait to see the look on your faces as you share our livid outrage... a decade later.
I am Glad you guys finally got here :) now imagine a young child watching this.. Yea I'm damaged permanently from this but shows like this and FLCL shaped me as a person. As I grew depressed in my later years it felt more approachable knowing that I wasn't alone and that my interpretation of life was very specific to me. Hilariously I always thought I wasn't as fucked up as Shinji so I could always manage with my struggle. As much as I recommend the rest of the movies, all it really does is show the Creator's Growth with their depression and even if they don't really answer any questions it more shows that life tempers out as it goes on and that even if you feel stuck at the moment, time heals all wounds.
Also Mickey's headcannon is so off that the Spear of Longinus is in reach comparatively lmao
Congratulation, Normies. You have reached level two.
Being so invested in a "its all a dream" theory is such an american thing to do,lmao.
Basically,seele wanted to make humanity in to one,while gendo wanted to reunite with yui and live forever as one in the eva,and yui apparently just wanted to be with his son as one together forever,by uniting the fruit of life (angel) and the frui of knowledge (human) in to one,with the help of the mass produced evas (already mentioned in the series) to create an anti AT field (which is what gives everyone a physical indivual form,like kaworu explains) to make every one go back to how they started which happens to be like the LcLthen,everysoul unites into one inside the eva,sharing everyone elses feelings,thought and memories (shown in the last 2 episodes of the show and in the last scenes of the movie),at the end shinji decided to revert everything and go back,while every single human being that got liquified has the chance to come back again if they have the will,just like shinji and asuka.
I’ve first watched the series in the year 2000 and watched this movie 16 years ago, and watched them both many times since and still don’t get it fully. But I still love it! It’s fine that you guys don’t get it specially this first time, sometimes when I’m happy I resonate with some elements of the franchise, the same when I feel depressed, but I enjoy it every time :) This reactions are awesome! And you guys made it to the end! CONGRATULATIONS! clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap… lol
Oh you're a og i respect it 🫡
I’m pretty sure he couldn’t get into the cockpit but maybe I’m wrong
I never could go through the whole movie by myself. It wasn't that this movie was too scary, but was just so uncomfortable
I was going to write a a paragraph explaining Evangelion but after being an Evangelion fan for over 20 years, I think half the fun is finding out the answers for yourself out on the web. A lot of good videos and webpages and interviews. Find the truth that works for you.
Watch the Rebuilds, they are like a parallel universe ending of Evangelion. Not meant as a direct sequel. A little more satisfying especially if you've watched the entire series and movies.
While theres a lot of simbolism and metaphors, the thing is, those things canonically happens in the anime universe, the 3rd impact actually happens, the world merged in a share-mind ocean. It was Shinji's will who stop it at the end, and pretty much reset the world. At the end on that beach, Shinji and Asuka become the literal Adan and Eve of this new world. Sorry Mike but it was not just a dream on Shinji's mind.
The story is actually kind of space sci-fi, but that's is not directly explained in the anime.
2023 and people STILL dont understand Shinji
You probably don't want to watch it immediately after Eva cause it's also heavy but if you want a show of a similar caliber in terms of quality and trippiness but in a totally different genre (that also happened to be directed by one of Hideki Anno's friends who he based Kaworu on), I highly recommend Revolutionary Girl Utena.
Theory:
The stakes are tombs of the friends that Shinji made wandering the world alone for a while, and when he is lying down Asuka appears, who ended up deciding to return to the world as Shinji, he strangles her to see if it is his hallucination and when she reacts he cry because you are no longer alonee
Did you know that Asuka was so synced with her Eva that her eye exploded when she got hit by that spear?
Oh, that's why she had a bandage on her eye, I never knew why
Amazing theories people!! I think you are all right, including the "i don't get a funk". As a side note, the original finale was that self actualization thing, but in a positive way, where Shinji actually comes on top and saves everyone (the congratulations bit of the tv), but Ano, the creator, received so much hate mail (some of which are on the screen during this movie), that he did a dark version were everyone gets liquifyed and Shinji just comes the other side not fully in control and still very deppressed and angry. That will find its reverse in the future finales, as they are many.
Just remembering that Anno describes EVA as a pedantic series, where all the philosophy and metaphors are very simplistic, much of the imagery was chosen because it looked cool on screen and that viewers could interpret all of this however they wanted. Basically, have fun creating and choosing theories about the series.
Apesar de ser simples, algumas coisas não dá pra ignorar, seria coincidência demais se fosse aleatório, todo o simbolismo religioso não me parece ter sido escolhido só por "ser legal" como eu vejo a galera falando por aí, a única parte que não encaixa e que parece que tá ali só pela estética é o nome da série e o uso da cruz várias vezes em explosões e outras coisas, todo o simbolismo relacionado ao velho testamento/tradição judaica se encaixa perfeitamente no contexto.
i love how you guys didn’t understand NOTHING
Does the double negative imply they understood everything? Either way I think it’s normal to come out of this movie confused asf
@@saskatiZ I just never really payed attention to the seele calls lol
This movie HAS to be seen on his original lenguaje... the acting voice on this movie its a must do for the rest of the world.
Watch the rebuilds, it’s a new ending, that also clarified this ending. But in the end, it’s about depression and understanding your place in world.
Again?
@Dio-xo9rv I disagree. First watched Eva in the late 90’s and it meant a lot to me. Saw EOE when it was released and loved it as well, although it was so dark. I’m older now, and watching the rebuilds meant a lot to me, cause like the writer I’ve grown and changed a lot over the years. Looking back at the story from my current mindset it makes total sense to me. I see it as sequel to the original, not a remake. It’s a cycle repeating, but showing with a healthier mindset you break it and move on.
They did a big 180 on this one, the vibe for the series was waaay different. Hope the old crew comes back for the Rebuild
I do think you really need to see the LAST film at some point. It's so beautiful & different you'll cry with joy.
Time to watch an Evangelion lore video. There's some good ones out there, I hope you guys are able to delve into it, even if just a little bit. It's quite interesting once you see the whole thing unraveled.
"she's floating in the pool with her melted selves-probably not great for your psyche."
"or your skin."
51:00 Marketa with the iconic Shinji chair pose 😆
In defense of mickeys theory, hideaki anno the creator of the Eva show said that every single interpretation u have is value CUZ that's the point of the series, discovering your own answers. But clearly mickeys watched MTVs teen mom show and that's why he's projecting 😂😂😂😂😂
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Well its a common thing for famous writers to say that, but I honestly think the message it's pretty clear and solid here
@@denial1004 yeah. Agree
Haha, look, I enjoy the reactions for what they are but let’s be real, the analysis is about on the level of a teenage k-pop fan’s Twitter feed (except the guy on the far right). Which is crazy considering how much media these guys consume.
Something tells me you're not from around here.
Yeah, the dream theory bullshit is the laziest way to interpret almost any piece of media. The story, and especially the ending, does basically nothing to support it. Just because parts of a story are abstract and metaphorical rather than literal, doesn't mean it's canonically just a dream.
The Holy Mountain? Weird and doesn't make realistic sense, so just a dream.
Synecdoche, New York? Time doesn't pass like that. What about the smokey fire house? That doesn't make any SENSE. Must all just be a dream and he wakes up at the end when he goes to sleep.
Pretty much any animated Disney classic makes no realistic sense, so clearly they all -
The surface level interaction is just so frustrating, agh.
@@lordmelvin9310 Not just that. Like the guy who couldn’t keep his eyes open through half the episodes wasn’t able to summon any ideas. And the others were like petty Twitter level, 2023 buzzword nonsense like ‘incel’, etc. I mean this is a complete breakdown of a character’s darkest depression, dealing with core aspects of the human condition and the endless dilemma of seeking to be understood whilst being unable to express, and all of that. And what we get is ‘I’m getting incel vibes’.
@@RoyKoopaling
True. I feel like Chris (guy on the far right) did engage with it and really tried to understand it thematically, but Marketa and Spidey looked half-asleep, lol.
@@lordmelvin9310 Totally agree.
Shinki couldnt get into the Eva because THE EVA WAS SUBMERGED IN FUCKING SUPER CONCRETE. How comes nobody ever gets this?!
ALSO: Not an incel, just a very deppressed teen.
Well the events of Eva happens in 2015, maybe shinji does watches Redpill podcasts who knows
It's impossible to get this in first watch and without doing a lot of reasearch on the side. All theories are welcomed and I still think this is the best NGE reaction on youtube. Just dont skip on the rebuild it helps a lot. (and alos confuses you a lot more too).