Exactly how I felt. Run away, spin dash, run away, spin dash. I get bored and skip ahead when I know he will win the round. Sonix, one of the few players that make me roll my eyes when I watch his playstyle of stalling. A good player but very frustrating to watch especially when they are facing a player that I like and want em to win.
Yeah I hate Sonix playstyle. He is undoubtedly good, but he plays like a bitch lol. It's a platform fighter, but he just runs away the whole time. Probably optimal, but it's lame af. That's why you'll never see Sonix have a channel with lots of traffic.
That second match was art and too satisfying to watch. I love how Sonix nullified a lot of Tweek's game just by taking away his item. With that we confirm that Sonix is brilliant and that Items should be banned.
@@nourzehnder5083 The smash community hates on Sonix because they are cringe, fail to see his immaculate plays, and think that fun is when Kazuya 1 hit kills punch punch bam bam his opponents. They are the equivalent of today's kids who can't hold attention for more than 5 seconds because TikTok has conditioned their brains to see something flashy every 2 seconds or they complain like little children.
9:00 Humming B at Game 2 : "Hurry up and fight!" 1 minute later, Sonix is up 2 stocks and you know the vibes. We've had S Factor 11 Grand Finals, and we've had a number of sets to generate enough data so that we should be aware of when Sonix is playing defensively because they're at a quick draw neutral, where a singe error results in someone pushing an advantage state to death versus Sonix is flat out camping to run the timer.
Ikr!!! Sonix is such a aMazingh player!! Really hope i be that good someday! Tweek needs to do his homwork if want be good player like Sonix. Nice try though today. In all seriousness though, this was a painful thing to watch. I can only imagine how great this game could have been without Steve and Sonic. These games are neither fair nor enjoyable to watch.
Sonix is so f***ing lame. Tweek had the opportunity to time him out game one, and just fought it out. Meanwhile Sonix starts running away with 2:30 left. I get that he won, but I’ve got no respect for him.
Is the rule of nature. Sonix defeats the characters that should be banned or modified at least (Diddy, ROB, Steve...), for then loose against Agressive Smasher, and more enjoyable to watch, style. Ultimate is in balance in that way.
I hopped on stream. "Oh Tweek's a game up against Sonix." Then I look at the game going on right then and Sonix is three stocks up to one. I don't even need to finish watching to the set to know who's gonna come out on top. Great work, future GOAT.
No because I'm sure this excuse isn't afforded to others that go through the same. I love Pissed Tweek but the people that always pay his back are the same that trash other top players for losing in the same fashions. Tweek is the only one that gets excused by commentators and spectators and that makes it hard to keep rooting for him as a fan of his skills. Tweek can lose his temper, many will excuse it but any other top player has a rare occasion and most will shame them for it. Gotta learn to keep that same energy. Stop babying Tweek. He doesn't need it.
Sonix played like this vs miya too. It does get lame when he resorts to running and not interacting. But when he plays its lit. Sonix is the type to main ice climbers in melee and brawl just to win by wobbling
I have never played Smash bros before or something similar. This is my first time. I really don‘t understand why everyone is hating on Sonix. I found this a highly strategic game from both. In boxing it‘s the same thing. They abuse what they know the best or build up to it.
I wonder if Sonix actually enjoys winning games by mentally pestering opponents and going for timeouts, or if there is a small voice in the back of his head that agrees it is boring and not deserving of much respect.
This isn't a great ultimate set to watch lol. If you're transitioning into Ult content, check out the first Skyjay vs Riddles, or MKLeo vs Prodigy, or some of these other renoun finals
@@dogyX3 Great suggestions! I've been an ult player since release, but have become an exclusive melee spectator. Ult has its rare moments, but sadly I think the meta is cooked until the next title. (I'll deal with the sonics, steves, aegis's, kazuya's, and g&w's in my own games, but I'd rather not relive that trauma again after my sets are over).
@@riley9771 One, when you fight Diddy who has one of the fastest up smashes and tilts in the game every hit counts. The slower play style comes from how all top players can optimize every stray hit. Tweek is one of the best examples.
@1CHRIS2ZZZZZZ doesn't mean they're wrong Sonic just doesn't have the tools to apply pressure the same way as other characters His pressure HAS to come from slow, methodic approaches What makes a mus fast or slow for sonic is how hard he can punish his opponent
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Bruh at this point I feel like Tweek only beats Sonix if they face each other in Grands lol
that's when everyone can beat Sonix. In Grands ... never before if in Losers.
Tweek's glance at the camera at the end...
10:29 has to be one of my favorite bits of commentary ever lmfao
11:38 what a freeze frame this is 😂
Sonic: Hey Diddy, nice balls! punches him right in his monkey nuts
I'm sure Sonix is very talented but jesus its hard for me to watch without skipping
9:15 with the banana was cool
Exactly how I felt. Run away, spin dash, run away, spin dash. I get bored and skip ahead when I know he will win the round. Sonix, one of the few players that make me roll my eyes when I watch his playstyle of stalling. A good player but very frustrating to watch especially when they are facing a player that I like and want em to win.
Timer should be 30 minutes to disincentivize the running away, the tournaments lose viewers every single time he's on stream
@LBJ.91 Honestly I feel like sonix might have the stamina to go 30 minutes
Wait, wording what th-
Yeah I hate Sonix playstyle. He is undoubtedly good, but he plays like a bitch lol. It's a platform fighter, but he just runs away the whole time. Probably optimal, but it's lame af. That's why you'll never see Sonix have a channel with lots of traffic.
That second match was art and too satisfying to watch.
I love how Sonix nullified a lot of Tweek's game just by taking away his item. With that we confirm that Sonix is brilliant and that Items should be banned.
Why is everyone hating on Sonix? I have nothing to do with Smash bros. I just heared today about Sonix.
@@nourzehnder5083 The smash community hates on Sonix because they are cringe, fail to see his immaculate plays, and think that fun is when Kazuya 1 hit kills punch punch bam bam his opponents. They are the equivalent of today's kids who can't hold attention for more than 5 seconds because TikTok has conditioned their brains to see something flashy every 2 seconds or they complain like little children.
9:00 Humming B at Game 2 : "Hurry up and fight!"
1 minute later, Sonix is up 2 stocks and you know the vibes.
We've had S Factor 11 Grand Finals, and we've had a number of sets to generate enough data so that we should be aware of when Sonix is playing defensively because they're at a quick draw neutral, where a singe error results in someone pushing an advantage state to death versus Sonix is flat out camping to run the timer.
This actually makes sense. Some of these matches turn into the Wild West, all down to the quick draw.
Sonix's movement and item play is immaculate
You can see he grinded this mu!
Ikr!!! Sonix is such a aMazingh player!! Really hope i be that good someday! Tweek needs to do his homwork if want be good player like Sonix. Nice try though today.
In all seriousness though, this was a painful thing to watch. I can only imagine how great this game could have been without Steve and Sonic. These games are neither fair nor enjoyable to watch.
@@jwel9828 ok 👌🏽
Grinded is not a word.
@@Knivess0 you're right my b
Sonix has overcome his demons, from losing to Light and Tweek constantly to barely dropping a game against them
Really hope sonic does not make a return or is heavily nerfed next game. So fk boring
You really think the most iconic character of the game don't gonna return... stop dreaming 😂😂
Sonix is so f***ing lame. Tweek had the opportunity to time him out game one, and just fought it out.
Meanwhile Sonix starts running away with 2:30 left. I get that he won, but I’ve got no respect for him.
Cry harder
Aw I feel so bad for you
Isn't this mu one of Sonic's worser ones?
People forget Diddy is also a very campy character
@@WarmongerMa1n Lmao I’m guessing running away and jumping is your favourite gameplay? I’m not the one you should feel bad for😂😂😂
@iMogggYouuu you're probably fucking garbage at all versions of Smash and idolize camping pussies
Sonix's control of banana peel is immaculate. It feels like there's no way for a Diddy to win this matchup.
Wasn't even game 5 and still its an half hour match ☠️
GGs, both played really good.
based comment. i personally enjoy sonix more, but i think everyone in this tournament did crazy good
interesting how the commentators made no mention of how last game tweek barely pulled out banana
I wonder if tweek was at the diddy party
His podcast is the smash diddy party.
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LMAOO
Spin dash camp vs banana camp. Yawn
I prefer Hit and Run honest players, they are slow and maybe boring. There is a reason why Items are banned in the competitive. 🤭
So glad Sonix lost to Sparg0 in grands. This guy is unwatchable.
Amen
Is the rule of nature. Sonix defeats the characters that should be banned or modified at least (Diddy, ROB, Steve...), for then loose against Agressive Smasher, and more enjoyable to watch, style. Ultimate is in balance in that way.
These endless Sonix hate comments are insanely cringe at this point.
@@xord5293Almost like Sonix. How ciclical.
I hopped on stream.
"Oh Tweek's a game up against Sonix."
Then I look at the game going on right then and Sonix is three stocks up to one.
I don't even need to finish watching to the set to know who's gonna come out on top. Great work, future GOAT.
They commented on the song at one point. These are long games when sonix plays
Like bro, can we just give Tweek a hug having to fight the other 2 Top 4 players just to make it into Top 8
Only to get 9th 😭😭😭
No because I'm sure this excuse isn't afforded to others that go through the same. I love Pissed Tweek but the people that always pay his back are the same that trash other top players for losing in the same fashions. Tweek is the only one that gets excused by commentators and spectators and that makes it hard to keep rooting for him as a fan of his skills.
Tweek can lose his temper, many will excuse it but any other top player has a rare occasion and most will shame them for it. Gotta learn to keep that same energy. Stop babying Tweek. He doesn't need it.
@@Alibaba-id1cs ayyyuyyy yoooooskisss no diddy bro
9th at a tournament this stacked is actually extremely good
@@Depths17yeah, but not for the 4th best player in the world that he calls himself...
Sonix played like this vs miya too. It does get lame when he resorts to running and not interacting. But when he plays its lit. Sonix is the type to main ice climbers in melee and brawl just to win by wobbling
No, he would play Sonic in Brawl because he loves the character.
Both tweek and miya were trying to play the same plan,he just was the better player.
We need long haired tweek back
I have never played Smash bros before or something similar. This is my first time. I really don‘t understand why everyone is hating on Sonix. I found this a highly strategic game from both. In boxing it‘s the same thing. They abuse what they know the best or build up to it.
Welcome to Smash, where everyone likes to whine
Sonix is the only player i can think of who camps in advantage state
With an advantage is when it's best to camp though?
Spolier shield 🛡️
Yess sir
cringe
Cringe
Oof, wasn't at the top for me
I don't care what anyone says, Sonix is really good at that character!
Can always count on sonix and acola ruining top 8
Acola actually plays though and he beat spargo without steeve last tournament. I'd rather watch acola more than sonix. I'm rooting for him over sonix
Sonix grinds every day at evey time, hes not carried by his character
@@kaisendbd sonix grinds running away with the fastest character in the game. Acola plays aegis too and wins.
@@NoteFlakezAcola is also very lame but agree I’ll take Steve over sonic anytime
Though triple Steve champions would suck ngl
@@kaisendbdAcola beat sparg0 with Aegis and even nearly took a game using his DK sonix can’t even do it with sonic
9:08
dominican excellence 🙏
i like these commentators bro
Tweek could beat sonix if he just learns how to play without banana lol
Man that looked rough..
where is the edge guardxd?? free pnish vs sonix
Snooze
Am I the only one that thinks Sonix is the least hype player in smash? Every single set is like watching paint dry
Sooo, Sonix vs Light in top 24
I wonder if Sonix actually enjoys winning games by mentally pestering opponents and going for timeouts, or if there is a small voice in the back of his head that agrees it is boring and not deserving of much respect.
when he looses he is so salty and frustrated is so funny.
This just isn't watchable compared to melee. Almost every top level set is over 20 minutes lol.
Then don't watch it? Nobody is making you
@@LBJ.91 That's fair
This isn't a great ultimate set to watch lol.
If you're transitioning into Ult content, check out the first Skyjay vs Riddles, or MKLeo vs Prodigy, or some of these other renoun finals
@@dogyX3 Great suggestions! I've been an ult player since release, but have become an exclusive melee spectator. Ult has its rare moments, but sadly I think the meta is cooked until the next title. (I'll deal with the sonics, steves, aegis's, kazuya's, and g&w's in my own games, but I'd rather not relive that trauma again after my sets are over).
@@oomenacka you don't need to go far - watch Tweek Hurt this tourney
horrible...horrible match....in fact, any match in which sonix is involved, is horrible.
Cry harder 😂
dead ass game bruh 😹😹
so sad why are these chars like this
tweek 🥲🤩
Man, Sonix is so lame bro💀💀
Man, the comment is so lame bro 💀💀💀
@Paradox_Of_Crota I thought about just not, responding. But then I remembered how lame it is to time out your opponent💀
@@riley9771 One, when you fight Diddy who has one of the fastest up smashes and tilts in the game every hit counts. The slower play style comes from how all top players can optimize every stray hit. Tweek is one of the best examples.
@@riley9771not worth arguing with. This dude will use the same argument in every mu and think he’s actually saying something innovative.
@1CHRIS2ZZZZZZ doesn't mean they're wrong
Sonic just doesn't have the tools to apply pressure the same way as other characters
His pressure HAS to come from slow, methodic approaches
What makes a mus fast or slow for sonic is how hard he can punish his opponent
Boring 🥱
POV DEFEAT E.U
Comunity of n.a:
impossible mu for diddy
Zzzzzzz
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🇯🇵 >>>>>>>>>>>>> 🇩🇴
@@janswhatsupdoc not what happened last week💀💪
The only reason I watched that was because of Tweek, Sonic battles are so boring they literally put me to sleep.🥱🥱🥱🥱