Here is the current part list for those wondering. We have also linked the companies or where to buy them in the description. Wheels : Apex wheels Sm-10rs +40 Tires : 265/35/18 potenza race Mudflaps: megachip chip guards Armrest : SXTH (its very cheap and it feels that way. Pads : csg cp spec Camber bolt : spc camber bolts Wrap : Kpmf green Floor protection : 24 karat gold infused marble slabs
I had the same issue with SOS calling on track. Once i was off track, I held down the SOS button for about 5 seconds, and I followed prompt to speak to an agent. from there i asked to disable all tracking services. no issues after that. @savagegeese
Came for the car reviews but stayed for the floor mat ad. Mark, you are legitimately turning into a master of cinematography. That ad was like an Alfred Hitchcock movie. You guys are the best.
Toyota definitely has to bring fwd on all their vehicles better colours and that 'black interior' is fit for a funeral car. UGH. I hate my Cross every time I get in it. I will be getting new seat coverings as soon as I can save up enough currency.
Great video... for the other 25 GR Corolla owners. Toyota: "Emergency services did you crash" Driver: "No I'm on a track". Toyota " OK no problem we'll go ahead and void your warranty"
@@boygonewhoopdataZZ This would explain the commendable noticeable restraint of the guy in conveying information. Although he caved the second time, which is not good. If a system pissed me off like that, I'd be extra-scarce with communication. This was such a good example for what is wrong with modern technology, as an extension of demented society.
I'm amazed at the lack of comments on the ending. I can't imagine you guys didn't hit that car. I hope everyone is alright and the damage to the car isnt too bad!
I never made it to the end I test drove that car and It's a total waste of money for 45K or 50K out the door... WOW the Buyer's remorse I would have had...
So the take away is, it’s a really fun street car year round, not so much on track. And for a person like me (and if think most others) that’s exactly what we’d prefer.
i wanted a fun car and i only have room for one car. bought a premium a month ago and love it. don't see myself taking it to the track (other than maybe the free HDPE day) but there are plenty of fun roads up in the hills for sure
i have tuxmats in my highlander, theyre great, even if theyre expensive the fact they cover MORE than factory carpet in a few spots makes them worth it
The last 5 minutes make this video a complete masterpiece; I'm going to invest everything I have in TuxMats to protect myself from the dirty carpets AND the recession!
Mr Goose finally gets deep into lifestyle vlogging for the clicks and mats. A side of Mark we have only imagined. I'm ordering a 9 foot by 32 foot TuxMax for my Winnebago.
You should see my Firefighter Calendar that I posed for get ready to empty your savings account to buy one it's limited edition only 500,000 units available
@yanboa Yeah, obviously there were dark green cars before the 90s. I'm not trying to say that Kurt Cobain invented the pine tree. But, it was the 90s when dark green was the most popular on the road in the US. Every truck and SUV had it as an option, and in some cases, it was more popular than red. Somehow, I don't think Dodge was trying to get in on vintage Lotus nostalgia with the paint on dad's 1998 Ram 2500. Then suddenly it went away.
Not sure if you remember, but saw you guys out filming this video at the country club while I was there with a colleague for the 2024 Lexus GX event. Had such a great conversation with you and love your guys’ content! Keep it up!!🔥
23:43 we actually just got the Toyota connected services emergency alert and came to make sure you were okay Jack. Awesome to meet you! Would love to come back for a savagegeese track day/meetup...
That auto emergency call service is hilarious and infuriating at the same time. I'd throw the infotainment out of the window if it did that to me at the track.
Happened to me first track day in my Morizo...it is absolutely ridiculous. The second call that was made I was put on hold and couldn't end the call. Even turned the car off, disconnected the battery..still couldn't cancel the call. unbelievable. The SOS service has its own Sim car and reserve power supply? Will be complaining to Toyota Australia on Monday.
With the economy uncertain, not buying a car right now makes sense for a few reasons. Firstly, cars are costly, and in uncertain times, it's crucial to save money and keep your finances stable. Using public transport or rideshares can save you money. Secondly, technology and car-sharing options offer convenient transport without the expenses of owning a car, like maintenance and insurance. Moreover, fewer cars mean lower emissions, contributing to a greener planet. Choosing eco-friendly options supports global efforts to fight climate change. Lastly, waiting lets you assess your finances when things stabilize. You can focus on saving, investing, or other essential needs like education or debts. Being patient and evaluating your needs can lead to a wise and financially responsible decision about getting a car.
My financial advisor advises buying cars when interest rates and prices are low. However, he also cautions against it right now due to the hidden costs of car ownership, like insurance and maintenance. He helps me plan for these expenses and manages my portfolio to ensure financial stability. It's all about making strategic decisions and having a well-rounded financial plan.
Thank you for the valuable insights. I appreciate your detailed explanation, which helps me understand the reasoning behind the decision. It's clear that being mindful of financial stability, exploring alternative transportation options, and considering the environmental impact are crucial factors in making a well-informed choice about purchasing a car. Your perspective, coupled with the guidance of a knowledgeable financial advisor, would undoubtedly ensure a well-thought-out and financially responsible decision. Your approach highlights the importance of expert advice in navigating these financial considerations thoughtfully.
Your financial journey is truly inspiring, and I'm currently striving to achieve the goals you've reached. Could you please share some tips to help others learn and navigate their own paths to financial success? Your insights would be invaluable.
I believe everyone could benefit from having a personal financial advisor. They can assist you in reaching your customized financial objectives at any point, ensuring you remain profitable.
I own a core with all of the packages and I live in the mountains. I drive it daily. It's an absolute riot on all surfaces. Don't waste money with mods/wraps. It's a corolla.
Exactly! I bought a Circuit, like the look, will never track the car, happy with the interior quality, could give a rip about an armrest, being a hooligan on backroads only, love the overall joyous nature of this little car.
For anyone who might read this and are using the Tuxmats, they’re great but I would try and avoid using the mounting clips they come with. I’ve noticed they scuff up the plastic trim you mount the clips to over time since the mats tend to slide back and forth when someone’s feet are on them.
Interesting, I just installed a set and because I didn't have access to a smart phone/instructions, I just skipped the clips. Mats seem to be fitting/holding just fine without them.
Toyota is the largest single shareholder of Subaru. I think it's fair to consider a GR86 as much a Toyota product as a Subaru product when you consider how much influence Toyota has on the company. I'll 100% give you the Supra, that thing drives like a BMW to me. For good and for bad.
@@hamsterbrigade Being a large shareholder does not mean you control a company. It's a Subaru based chassis, a Subaru engine, Subaru interior, it's produced at the Subaru Gunma plant, and essentially every part on the car is stamped Subaru. Toyota had input on development and provided direct injection tech. The Supra is practically more Toyota than the 86 because at least Toyota fully designed the exterior and it has a lot more bespoke parts. If you ever work on a BRZ/86 and have experience working on Subaru and Toyota, you'll instantly know it's about 95% Subaru.
@@802Garagethe Supra is definitely not “more” Toyota you’re the only person I’ve seen say that. Lmao. With the cars themselves you can argue that the Supra is more of a Supra then the 86 is a Corolla though.
@@MaddNomad1015 Because most people have never touched an 86 or done any research before expressing an opinion. Neither the 86 nor the Supra are made by Toyota. One is made in a Subaru plant and one is made in Austria. In terms of actual parts shared with other cars in the corporate lineup, the 86 probably wins by a handful. All I was saying is at least Toyota fully did the body design of the Supra and it is bespoke to that car. That's not even the case with the 86. They made four wheel drive Corollas before with the All-Trac models, so it's still within heritage really.
Not surprised the corolla suffers from the same problem as the focus rs with the overheating rear clutch pack. Many people just move on to a new platform because there is no way to fix it on the RS. Even with a color, the tempnis just inferred so the ecu will always disconnect it, regardless of actual heat. Hopefully the gr is actually monitoring temp with a sensor. Also that emergency services shit must be annoying af
Its a shame that these cars get such a fragile system that is meant mostly to add a bit of traction to commuter cars. Back in the day we made fun of Haldex systems for being “fake” but this is way worse.
@@kenim yeah, just goes to show how great the Evo and sti were. They don't have these sort of overheating issues, theirs are mostly motor overheat problems which are more easily remedy. These clutch type AWD systems are just no good for performance cars. They are cheap substitutes. Looks good on a spec sheet but doesn't work in the real world.
@@MSportsEngineering I know the Focus RS uses the GKN system which I believe the GR Corolla is also using, either way they are both clutch pack based designs
Last weekend I instructed a toyota GR experience student in his GR Corolla at Ozark International raceway and I have to say the car is pretty fantastic. Completely stock brakes are phenomenal. The suspension is damn good for a street car and handle a lot like a stock E46 M3 competition coupe. In track mode the AWD allowed the car to rotate in high speed corners. We didnt run into any heat related issues but air temps were 70's. As an occasional track day and street car the GR corolla is pretty fantastic. Looking forward to the aftermarket solving the heat related issues for dedicated tracking.
Midnight in Adelaide, South Australia. Time to watch some SavageGeese. Best car videos around. I have also learnt so much from you guys. Keep up the good work guys!
I love the hot hatch segment of the car world. I own a Focus RS. My interest in this series comes from my love of my car and the WRX, amongst all the other hot hatches. I would love to hear more comparisons to those (and the veloster N) in the series.
I shortlisted this car because it seems to perfect but after seeing all of the struggles just to use the performance of this car for more than 3 laps, I am very glad i bought a vb WRX. It’s perfect for this use case and has a very established and demonstrated aftermarket to support it. 340AWHP with an intake and tune, no cooling issues, FA500 coils and it’s loads better than a GR Corolla.
Disappointing to hear that the clutch pack, oil, and IATs are getting too hot after just a very short time on the track for a HPDE. That seems crazy to me given how Toyota positions this car.
The Gr overheats meanwhile Hyundai ran the Veloster N and Elantra N for 24 hours straight on track, no issues. And they’re not even dedicated track cars!
Such auto emergency call should be introduced in F1: if a driver is complaining too much, the car shuts down communication to the team and calls local dealership instead. Amazing and very detailed content with brilliant cinematography, thank you for your hard work! A rare gem with consumer oriented approach!
Came for the car review, but stayed because of the matching Patagonia fleece and vinyl wrap. Fascinating to learn about the various heat issues and possible fixes. Going to be very interesting to see where this goes -- maybe some anodized green interior accents for the car and a leprechaun outfit for Mark?
Been enjoying my 23’ loaded Core. It was definitely worth waiting for my MSRP allocation at an upstate NY MSRP only dealership. I feel like at $37,500-$40,000 the car’s outstanding powertrain, transmission and chassis more than makes up for the Corolla interior parts.
Waiting is definitely the way to go, especially since Toyota already updated the car for the 24' model years. Paying markup for the worst version of the car is nonsense.
Glad you're enjoying it! To the other upstate New Yorkers if you want to drive Watkins Glen reach out to me. My GR Corolla probably won't be tracked there (I have an older BMW for that) but it's nice to meet the GR family and get some people charging hard on track. I've also been to Pineview Run and I wanted to do New York Safety Track but ran out of funds :(
I always hated the tasteless visual of rims wider than tires. Perfectly vertical shoulder is my preference, but I'd rather tolerate a bit of ballooning over stretch tires.
I would like to see a long term test of the Elantra N. This is an excellent video beautifully edited! The wrap is beautiful. Truly a shame that heat management makes this not a complete track car stock.
Honestly as much as look into offerings in this class the EN rises to the top every time. FWD only is a disappointment in basically anything other than clear weather, but the EN is extremely impressive overall.
Rear clutch heat issues are a known issue from GR Yarris. Header wrap or heat shield on the exhaust from resonator to muffer resolves most of the Yarris. Seems like alot of the issues are due to the position of the clutch temp sensor being close to the exhaust so gives false readings. If you need to go further than than Cusco has a clutch cover with expanded capacity too.
Great video as always! I also ran into the issue of my GRC calling the emergency call center multiple times when I was tracking at Laguna Seca. I'm surprised none of three people that I was connected with mentioned about disabling the feature as it was super annoying. Now I know I can disable it but apparently, disabling it will also disable all the related features to the subscription service, which includes Toyota app and I kind of want to keep it... As for the rear diff (clutch pack) overheating issue, I titanium wrapped and added a heatshield on my exhaust near the unit and I even added a furnace shield on the temp sensor and the issue seems to be fixed so far. When ran stock, my GRC went into FWD only mode after three laps in 73f weather, but after adding those heat shields, I never had any overheating issues completing a full session even in 77+f weather. It can still happen in hotter weather but for now that's all I can do. I love my GRC but it definitely needs some mods to be driven hard and reliably on the track whereas my Elantra N has been great without any issues even after 10+ track days.
If you have them disable it, can it be done permanently, or is it something that has to be done any time you plan to drive the car as it is meant to be driven?
So which do you prefer for DD use? EN or GRC? It kinda seems like either of these would be my next car. Very likely will never step foot on a track, just spirited road driving.
As a GR Yaris owner (and big fan of SG) I found the deficiencies real but overblown! Clearly when you run 265 width tires in car with stock 225 you will significantly accelerate the rise of clutch pack temps. I run 245 Cup2’s and by adding a 70euro 3D printed device directing air flow to the clutch pack allows me 15-20min sessions in Hockenheim w/o issues during summer (and even it overheats a couple of cool down laps are enough to bring temps down). Try heat wrapping the exhaust and it’s even better. If not enough there is a differential cooler as well. Stock GRY pads are 60 euros and while they don’t last long (3-4 hard track days max) they are soft to the expensive brake rotors. With just tires and brake fluid change I could outlast many cars in Salzburgring. Oil temps rise but anyone who goes tracking often will have the oil cooler on top of the list. So I still believe it’s one of the best options out of the box for tracking (clearly at double the price of the GRY in Germany not a bargain). Try taking a stock Cayman S, M3 or RS3 to a trackday and see what happens to oil temps and brake pads/fluids. Would also expect a big aftermarket coming to US soon building on Asian/European parts for the GR Yaris (where some of them should fit straightaway)
Congratulations on getting MSRP. I will continue fighting my local dealers who are trying to automatically add 3 - 5K at the start of our conversation. You know it's bad when the sales-guy stops responding.
The stupid fucking Toyota by me is selling a USED one (base model) with 3000KM on it for 25% more (10K on top) here in Canada. Which is about $7000 USD. It’s kinda insane.
Got mine coming in either the 20th or 21st, used Toyota Naperville as well. Apparently Illinois is spoiled by MSRP only dealers? St Charles also is MSRP only
I've got a Type R and Yaris. Type R is stock, the Yaris has some mods - Exhaust, downpipe, springs. Type R is pretty much one league above when talking about how much car you get, but the gr is no less fun. In rain and slippery conditions in general the Yaris is more fun, much faster too. Type R is more mature, much better interior, ergonomics, electronics, more space. Yaris has a bigger punch from below, Type R pulls more like an NA engine and is more fun to rev out. Yaris feels lighter, Type R handles better, has better steering too. Seating position, ergonomics, adjustability, trunk space all go to the Honda. Overall VERY different feeling cars both fun in their own right. Altho the Corolla seems like a fusion of both, combining the Type R's practicality with the Yaris' drivetrain I don't think I could swap my Type R for a Corolla. These are my first japanese sportscars btw I always owned german cars, still have a GT4 to compliment the Yaris and Type R. Type R feels/drives like a budget FWD GT3, great to have fun, drive fast/hard but also lots of creature comforts for daily driving and travelling with the family and very light for a modern car of that size. More of a general impression than purely track related like you asked but hopefully still gives you some insight from someone who owns (and likes) both. Purely track related, the Type R gives more fun at the limit than the GR IMO, making the GR more fun when not pushing too hard.
The big wig says "you have 2 weeks to figure it out, I already told the world that the car will be ready by then. Otherwise you're fired" Engineer does whatever they can and hopes it doesn't surface, and tells their boss it's all done 2 weeks later.
Every Corvette ever made has cooling issues from the factory. It's just that the boomer-buying demographic never drives past 4/10ths, so it wasn't widely reported.
the car has no temp problems for the majority of people. those pushing very hard on track are the only ones who see it, guess what 90% of owners dont do, take the car out on track.
Almost every car made has problems running hard at the track, performance model or not. The closest comparison to this is probably the STi and it eats motors, so not so bad.
Kind of crazy what's needed to complete a track session without overheating, I have none of these issues at all on the stock cooling setup of my Elantra N and I'm stage1 tuned.
@@DarkLinkRevolution I mean, the N have engine oil and a air intake. No stock EN have to install a engine oil cooler cause it's hitting 290F in a session or have a bad designed air intake that suck air inside the engine bay. I'm just disappointed as the GRC Circuit is really expensive, like 59K CAD and you would think those issues would come up on heavily modified cars and not stock ones. It's not a track car but neither is the EN.
Great video as always! To my knowledge there are 3 ways to deal with the clutch pack problem that have been tested on the GR Yaris. The first one is to cover the rear exhaust with some insulating material, reason being that the exhaust goes pretty close to the clutch pack and heats it. The second way is to put a diffuser to direct air on the clutch pack (is on sale at TEGIWA Europe I believe).
And the third one is to put an oil cooler for the rear differential (sold by HEL performance), which does not share the same oil of the clutch pack but since it is close to it transfer a lot of heat to the clutch pack.
i am still driving my s2000 , and it breathes and even runs better at this cool moment. what i have done only is the SPoon intake extension. i believe it really helps in summer too.
As a Spruce Mica Green (6V4) owner.. I was having heart murmurs about the likelihood of getting a green GR Corolla.. But knowing it is wrapped alleviates some anxieties. Beautiful colour choice!
the video exposes the fact that the GR C is not a very good track car--the rear diff overheats, the oil overheats, it cuts timing, good god it's terrible. You would be way better off building a dedicated track car from a kitcor something
This is a "don't meet your heroes" car. $50k for a Corolla, plus it's running a ton of boost to get the 300hp out of a 3 cylinder. As mentioned, a thermal nightmare. Curious how durable these engines will be long term.
Re: the crash detection system. I tracked my V60 recharge over the summer, and when the crash detection system freaked out over excessive braking round a sharp corner, it reacted by tightening and locking down my seat belt to an extremely uncomfy degree. Like, shallow breaths only. And it wouldnt let up until i got off track and unbuckled. I drove to have fun, not set lap times, so i only triggered the crash detection once... But once was enough for me to take it a lil easier the rest of the day
This video is incredible. Really appreciate all the information. Wrap and wheel education was actually helpful. Even if some things are sponsored you guys do a really good job making it useful and entertaining. Ends was amazing of course.
I recently picked up a 2023 Core with all options (performance, cold climate, and JBL speakers) with a slight mark-up; I paid slightly more than $42k. In my opinion, the Circuit Edition wasn’t worth the extra $5k-ish compared with a maxed out Core at MSRP. I prefer the matte plastic over the glossy exterior trim pieces and was indifferent to the hood and roof that the CE offered. Unfortunately, in SoCal where I live, it was very difficult to get a Core at or near MSRP. There were very few Circuit Editions available but those models were pushing $50k+ with markups. I was cross shopping with a new Type R but, unfortunately, I was not able to find any that were under $50k. Also, I'm not a fan of red interior though it's not really a deal breaker. Some dealerships were sneaky because they would tell me “we only sell at MSRP” but then charge $5k - $8k in “dealer-installed equipment”. The other dealers I dealt with would just have a flat “market-adjustment” of usually the same amount. I don’t regret my purchase because I’ll never track my GR Corolla and I think the GR Corolla is a better street car, considering the overheating issues with the oil and rear transmission portion of the car in track conditions. So far, I haven’t experienced any overheating issues. I’m getting old now, being in my mid 30s, but I still find myself enjoying the drive in my GR Corolla. It really reminds me of my previous 2019 Subaru STI in regards to interior and driving experience although the STI had more soft touch areas. It’s odd because I’ve come full circle…after I sold the STI, I got a 2021 BMW M2C and now I’m back in a JDM car. I think at MSRP, and for a strictly street car, I think the Core model is a great value to those that want the JDM experience.
@@dielaughing73 You’re right, I should rephrase that as I’m getting older, I thought my tastes would change, but at the moment, it hasn’t. As much as I liked my M2C, the general maintenance costs of a BMW M are just crazy. I did the brakes myself and just for OEM pads and rotors, it was $2.5k. The other reason is being a coupe and limited space.
@@TigerClaw03 holy crap, I just yesterday bought track pads and cheap rotors for my Miata at about 600USD all up, front and rear. OEM would have been more, to be fair
I have a white CE. The sheer amount of information packed into this video is amazing. Thank you! I don’t know if I’ll ever track it like you guys do but it’s good to know what it’s limitations are.
The one thing I don't get is this. The average American family earns $72k a year. Most financial institutions/Planners advise not to spend more than 30% of your annual income on the purchase price of a vehicle. That would be just under $22k for a car. To "Afford" the the vehicle. WIth the GR BASE price (if you can even get one at that price) yoru looking at $36k plus. So whose buying these?? Most that buy these cars, really can't afford them. I would imagine many of these cars will be up for sale used as Repo's. The whole moral of the story is, buy something with your money that will appreciate in value. Not be a depreciating asset. Yes, some may argue this is a "Collectors" car, and it may be 20 30 yrs from now, but I speciously doubt ANY new buyer in the USA will keep one that long. Just something to think about before you think of buying any new car. Drive something cheap, but reliable, save your money. You will Thank Me Later.
The wrap with the Apex wheels came out looking amazing. Saddened to find out the issues with overheating, but I always saw this car as a back road car and not as a track weapon.
@@bextar6365 Gray and silver are the same colour as paint primer. I can scratch my Apex Silver Mitsubishi and it still looks fine. I can scratch my green motorcycle and notice it from 30 feet away.
I hate commercials/advertisements, but I literally laugh out loud at your ads but more importantly - trust your recommendations that I’ll get something quality. Definitely going to grab me some tux mats!
That green looks almost identical to my Dark Highland Green on my Bullitt. Love that color, it looks like it pops in the sun and is deep and rich in the shade. Aside that, it's pretty crazy that Toyota built a track/sports car (albeit out of the Corolla) and it is having so many performance issues when driven hard.
This is one hot hatch I was genuinely disappointed with. I drove one after finding a dealer within reasonable distance of me that wanted sticker price for a loaded core edition, and when I tell you that was the shortest test drive of my life. It was the most boring 300 hp/273 tq I've ever experienced. But that wasn't even the bad part. What really disappointed me about this car was how planted yet rubbery it was. There wasn't enough character or drama because of the lack of thrill and feedback. I cannot imagine anyone wasting money on a marked up one. There are better options for less money.
Crazy how much work you need to do to a "Circuit" edition to actually get it ready for the track. Considering how much money they cost, you'd think they would come ready out of the box for the customer
So simple, just a few more thousands dollars of mods and potentially losing the engine warrranty if shits break cause you installed a oil cooler. @@BCNeil
I think you guys nailed what the GRC is all about in the end. Its not gonna be a darling in the track but it will give you a fun driving experience in the street in all seasons. I don’t care about taking my car to the track so these issues do not apply to me. I am looking forward to what Limit +1 can do in these cars especially their oem plus line.
This color combo is nearly identical to my deep green metallic '95 Talon TSI AWD with gold/bronze evo 8 enkeis. Such a understated and tasteful combination.
Me casually pulling 1.25 G on the street with “low grip” PS4S… which are at least as good as, but better in some aspects, than the factory Goodyear Eagle Super Car 2’s I replaced.
I have a GR Corolla Circuit edition and will tell you outright that it's not a track car! Where this car feels best is on the curves of the open road driven hard! I find it to be a really good rally car. I have a 1990 Galant GSX converted to turbo with all GVR4 goodies except the rear steering and the GR Corolla feels like a newer version of the Galant with less legroom, but all of the newest creature comforts and cup holders. If I feel like a track day, I will take my 2019 Camaro SS1LE 10 times out of 10 instead of the Corolla unless its cold or raining. Cold, Wet, Loose ground is where the Corolla loves to live and excels at driving excitement. This is also a great travel vehicle as it has all of the safety features and will basically drive itself 20 seconds at a time and then makes you grab the wheel. The only thing I have reservations about is driving it in the snow, because I don't want the salt to ruin the vehicle. I know this would be a perfect winter driver, but I think this car may be too special to let the salt eat away at it. I have a 99 Camry that I will run in the winter with over 220,000 miles that runs great and everything still works, but what are everyone's thoughts about driving the Corolla in the salty winter?
Rust check it and it will be fine. Have a 2015 tacoma which are known to rust and I rust check it ever year. No rust so far. Bad side is that it does make the engine bay messy after a few years, so gotta have a rag on you to keep hands clean even just for replacing windshield washer fluid. I did it to my 23 gr corolla as that's the reason I bought it, to have fun in winter.
I don't blame you for not wanting to drive the GRC in the winter but I'd assume, with how far engineering has come with galvanized parts, cars don't rot even close to the way they once did. I have a GRC Circuit and think it's the coolest thing, I'm reluctant to put miles on it living here in Florida!
I already wanted a GR Corolla for a daily driver way too much. Wrapping a circuit edition in green just made me incredibly jealous. As a Canadian dealing with winter roads 5 months a year, this car makes SO much sense. My S2000 is great, but I can only access the fun it delivers 6 months a year
Also Canadian and I have the same thoughts. In Canada especially the mountains this would be the best daily driver. Now I just need to win the lottery to afford it and the gas prices
Yah, it's really hard for me to justify $65k for what is still a Corolla in every non-performance metric. There are a lot of amazing lightly used cars for that money
Interesting color choice. Reminds me of the green Eddie Bauer edition Ford Explorers from the late 90's... Looks good on it! Especially with those bronze wheels.
yeesss...i love those so much, ive only ever seen two. and I hope to one day see a dark green town car with a brown cloth top. i love those weird old person styles
I wonder if some of the aftermarket stuff that is already built for the GR Yaris can be used for the GR Corolla as well since they both have the same underpinnings underneath. I figured stuff like engine & clutch pack options are interchangeable between the two (That Eventuri intake was firstly designed for the Yaris). Motive Video i think also has some videos detailing what to expect when you are tuning the engine (they were one of the first shops to push the G16E 3cyl to its limits)
Jack decided to t-bone the car at the end in hopes of totalling this GR shitbox to go back to a corvette and reclaim his manhood. Good job gorilla Jack! Hope nobody was hurt
The over heating rear diff is something Toyota needs to fix, 10-15 mins before the rear diff over heats and switches to fwd mode. I saw you guys on Autobahn on Sept 30th, I had the same issue in my GR Corolla with my sessions.
your review is always so honest. when this car is out, everyone is bragging about the performance but nobody is talking about the cooling issue. the similar mechanical awd structure is in focus rs as well and that car producted 2016-2017 had this problem already knew to the community.
Love the wrap color, especially in combination with the wheels ❤ I hope you'll have a lot of fun with the car. I'm looking forward to this series. It's a shame we don't get them here in Europe.
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Here is the current part list for those wondering. We have also linked the companies or where to buy them in the description.
Wheels : Apex wheels Sm-10rs +40
Tires : 265/35/18 potenza race
Mudflaps: megachip chip guards
Armrest : SXTH (its very cheap and it feels that way.
Pads : csg cp spec
Camber bolt : spc camber bolts
Wrap : Kpmf green
Floor protection : 24 karat gold infused marble slabs
Strange the floor mats weren't list on the parts list.
@@neilxpeartspecial order, so rare you'll never get them
Sandwich : Arby’s roast beef classic, modified w/ Arby’s sauce
@@neilxpeart TUXMATS!
I had the same issue with SOS calling on track. Once i was off track, I held down the SOS button for about 5 seconds, and I followed prompt to speak to an agent. from there i asked to disable all tracking services. no issues after that. @savagegeese
Came for the car reviews but stayed for the floor mat ad. Mark, you are legitimately turning into a master of cinematography. That ad was like an Alfred Hitchcock movie. You guys are the best.
Thé perfect amount of wierdness 👌
The AI jack was something else…
@@NoNom.”wierdness” 💀💀💀
The best RUclips integrated advertisement I have ever seen! I want to buy floormats for cars I don't own!
i was laughing my ass off, these videos need more views
The wrap looks incredible but Toyota seriously needs to add this green as an option .
1000%
yes! Bring back the deep jewel pearl green !
Toyota definitely has to bring fwd on all their vehicles better colours and that 'black interior' is fit for a funeral car. UGH. I hate my Cross every time I get in it.
I will be getting new seat coverings as soon as I can save up enough currency.
The first time they showed the car, I saw that green and though Damn! nice color!
I genuinely thought this wrap was Toyota paint until they said it wasn't.
Great video... for the other 25 GR Corolla owners. Toyota: "Emergency services did you crash" Driver: "No I'm on a track". Toyota " OK no problem we'll go ahead and void your warranty"
lol
Funny enough only Hyundai and GM are the only one who offers warranty on track as well. Tracking essentially voids your GR Rolla and Type R warranty.
@@boygonewhoopdataZZit’s like the development team and corporate have two different ideas for the car…
@boygonewhoopdataZZ is that true for the EN? Track it and it's still under warranty?
@@boygonewhoopdataZZ This would explain the commendable noticeable restraint of the guy in conveying information. Although he caved the second time, which is not good. If a system pissed me off like that, I'd be extra-scarce with communication.
This was such a good example for what is wrong with modern technology, as an extension of demented society.
I'm amazed at the lack of comments on the ending. I can't imagine you guys didn't hit that car. I hope everyone is alright and the damage to the car isnt too bad!
That's what you get when you have a small peasant car in dark color! That red SUV wouldn't have the BALLS to cross BLUE CORVETTE!
Jack had enough time to frown and lie on the horn... I bet they stopped in time.
Hopefully those big brakes did their job!
It was just a generative AI CGI at the end. They are all good I’m sure.
I never made it to the end I test drove that car and It's a total waste of money for 45K or 50K out the door... WOW the Buyer's remorse I would have had...
So the take away is, it’s a really fun street car year round, not so much on track. And for a person like me (and if think most others) that’s exactly what we’d prefer.
yeah for real most people will Daily this car. The Morizo was the track focus car. And it bad different Gear ratios to perform on the track
Tenths of a second behind (CE) the fl5 in their comparison using the same tires, driver, and day. Major difference o yea 🙄
Yup.
exactly.
i wanted a fun car and i only have room for one car. bought a premium a month ago and love it. don't see myself taking it to the track (other than maybe the free HDPE day) but there are plenty of fun roads up in the hills for sure
That wrap color is ELITE.
Big facts
Came.hwre just to say how great the green color looks.
Forest green is it!!
It needs to be wrapped in all piano black because reasons.
I just clicked the video to comment this but I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so.
Car reviews are good and all that, but Mark's "TuxMat" addiction is the real reason why I'm here.
Super-obscure Halloween costume 2024: TuxMat overalls
i have tuxmats in my highlander, theyre great, even if theyre expensive the fact they cover MORE than factory carpet in a few spots makes them worth it
TuxMats, ugh. Ever since I bought a set for my wife’s GX all she says is TuxMat this, TuxMat that. Mark this, Mark that.
the meatball sandwich skit from the long term mazda 3 review was my fav
Now imagine if you could wrap the b58 in tuxmat
The last 5 minutes make this video a complete masterpiece; I'm going to invest everything I have in TuxMats to protect myself from the dirty carpets AND the recession!
using Lycos in 2023 is actual genius
And the recession. lol.
Agreed. Calls on TUX
I recommend showering with your tux mats, the high temp really helps get the fit just right
edit:SP
I have tux covering everything I can in my mk8 gti
Mr Goose finally gets deep into lifestyle vlogging for the clicks and mats. A side of Mark we have only imagined.
I'm ordering a 9 foot by 32 foot TuxMax for my Winnebago.
Ya... just a little strange to say the least.
You just never know with people eh? lol
they need revenue any way they can get it
You should see my Firefighter Calendar that I posed for get ready to empty your savings account to buy one it's limited edition only 500,000 units available
@@savagegeeseTbh, I would buy a Savageese calendar.
I love SavageGeese. No gimmicks, no loud and dumb fluff and filler... I recommend this channel to everyone
Idk why "1990s green" fell out of fashion. It looks so good on so many cars, especially hatches, trucks and SUVs.
not really
@nooooooooooo6uoki67 Oh sorry, my bad.
That’s from WAY before the 90s, dude. “British Racing Green”.
@yanboa Yeah, obviously there were dark green cars before the 90s. I'm not trying to say that Kurt Cobain invented the pine tree. But, it was the 90s when dark green was the most popular on the road in the US. Every truck and SUV had it as an option, and in some cases, it was more popular than red. Somehow, I don't think Dodge was trying to get in on vintage Lotus nostalgia with the paint on dad's 1998 Ram 2500. Then suddenly it went away.
@@JETZcorp all the colors went away. All this white/silver/gray crap has got to go.
Not sure if you remember, but saw you guys out filming this video at the country club while I was there with a colleague for the 2024 Lexus GX event. Had such a great conversation with you and love your guys’ content! Keep it up!!🔥
Yes sir I remember connecting!
23:43 we actually just got the Toyota connected services emergency alert and came to make sure you were okay Jack. Awesome to meet you! Would love to come back for a savagegeese track day/meetup...
That auto emergency call service is hilarious and infuriating at the same time. I'd throw the infotainment out of the window if it did that to me at the track.
[proceeds to end the video in a collision]
I honestly would lose my mind. "Circuit" edition my ass!
What's weird is that I did an entire day of rallycross abuse in my GRC and that feature never activated. Wonder what the parameters for it are.
Happened to me first track day in my Morizo...it is absolutely ridiculous. The second call that was made I was put on hold and couldn't end the call. Even turned the car off, disconnected the battery..still couldn't cancel the call. unbelievable. The SOS service has its own Sim car and reserve power supply? Will be complaining to Toyota Australia on Monday.
Then you would experience a very vindictive car and manufacturer. The automotive experience is already a creepy nightmare.
With the economy uncertain, not buying a car right now makes sense for a few reasons.
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Lastly, waiting lets you assess your finances when things stabilize. You can focus on saving, investing, or other essential needs like education or debts.
Being patient and evaluating your needs can lead to a wise and financially responsible decision about getting a car.
My financial advisor advises buying cars when interest rates and prices are low. However, he also cautions against it right now due to the hidden costs of car ownership, like insurance and maintenance. He helps me plan for these expenses and manages my portfolio to ensure financial stability. It's all about making strategic decisions and having a well-rounded financial plan.
Thank you for the valuable insights. I appreciate your detailed explanation, which helps me understand the reasoning behind the decision. It's clear that being mindful of financial stability, exploring alternative transportation options, and considering the environmental impact are crucial factors in making a well-informed choice about purchasing a car. Your perspective, coupled with the guidance of a knowledgeable financial advisor, would undoubtedly ensure a well-thought-out and financially responsible decision. Your approach highlights the importance of expert advice in navigating these financial considerations thoughtfully.
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Samuel Peter Descovich that's whom I work with
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I own a core with all of the packages and I live in the mountains. I drive it daily. It's an absolute riot on all surfaces. Don't waste money with mods/wraps. It's a corolla.
Exactly! I bought a Circuit, like the look, will never track the car, happy with the interior quality, could give a rip about an armrest, being a hooligan on backroads only, love the overall joyous nature of this little car.
That’s how you do the product placement like a boss
I have NEVER been more HONORED to watch an ad in my life lmao. That was pure cinematic genius.
For anyone who might read this and are using the Tuxmats, they’re great but I would try and avoid using the mounting clips they come with. I’ve noticed they scuff up the plastic trim you mount the clips to over time since the mats tend to slide back and forth when someone’s feet are on them.
Interesting, I just installed a set and because I didn't have access to a smart phone/instructions, I just skipped the clips. Mats seem to be fitting/holding just fine without them.
In two years into tuxmats in two of my cars and I’ve had 0 scratching issues. Must me specific to your make/model.
PPF THEM
I used no clips on my Tuxmats, fit and stayed fit
No clips used in my Outback & Niro = no problems
SCOTT MADE AN APPEARANCE WITH THAT MASSIVE TORQUE WRENCH
Kinda hilarious that Limit +1 specializes in 3 Toyota GR cars, but they're actually dealing with a Toyota, a BMW, and a Subaru.
GR venza ftw
Toyota is the largest single shareholder of Subaru. I think it's fair to consider a GR86 as much a Toyota product as a Subaru product when you consider how much influence Toyota has on the company. I'll 100% give you the Supra, that thing drives like a BMW to me. For good and for bad.
@@hamsterbrigade Being a large shareholder does not mean you control a company. It's a Subaru based chassis, a Subaru engine, Subaru interior, it's produced at the Subaru Gunma plant, and essentially every part on the car is stamped Subaru. Toyota had input on development and provided direct injection tech. The Supra is practically more Toyota than the 86 because at least Toyota fully designed the exterior and it has a lot more bespoke parts. If you ever work on a BRZ/86 and have experience working on Subaru and Toyota, you'll instantly know it's about 95% Subaru.
@@802Garagethe Supra is definitely not “more” Toyota you’re the only person I’ve seen say that. Lmao.
With the cars themselves you can argue that the Supra is more of a Supra then the 86 is a Corolla though.
@@MaddNomad1015 Because most people have never touched an 86 or done any research before expressing an opinion. Neither the 86 nor the Supra are made by Toyota. One is made in a Subaru plant and one is made in Austria. In terms of actual parts shared with other cars in the corporate lineup, the 86 probably wins by a handful. All I was saying is at least Toyota fully did the body design of the Supra and it is bespoke to that car. That's not even the case with the 86. They made four wheel drive Corollas before with the All-Trac models, so it's still within heritage really.
I appreciate the balance of technical information and quality of production along with humor that is right up my alley. Thanks guys!
This wrap is the exact one I was gonna do my GRC in, if my dealer didn’t flip it like a scumbag.
Money talks, suckers walk.
I hear ya dude.
Yeah some dealerships don't care at all.
Imagine the work and skill needed to put Saran wrap on an entire car. Bravo! Most of us struggle with plates and jars.
Not surprised the corolla suffers from the same problem as the focus rs with the overheating rear clutch pack. Many people just move on to a new platform because there is no way to fix it on the RS. Even with a color, the tempnis just inferred so the ecu will always disconnect it, regardless of actual heat. Hopefully the gr is actually monitoring temp with a sensor. Also that emergency services shit must be annoying af
Its a shame that these cars get such a fragile system that is meant mostly to add a bit of traction to commuter cars. Back in the day we made fun of Haldex systems for being “fake” but this is way worse.
@@kenim yeah, just goes to show how great the Evo and sti were. They don't have these sort of overheating issues, theirs are mostly motor overheat problems which are more easily remedy. These clutch type AWD systems are just no good for performance cars. They are cheap substitutes. Looks good on a spec sheet but doesn't work in the real world.
Is it the same unit? GKN I think. There's about a thimble of fluid in the unit so it's not surprising it overheats.
@@MSportsEngineering I know the Focus RS uses the GKN system which I believe the GR Corolla is also using, either way they are both clutch pack based designs
Yeah, dumped the RS for the overheating issues. Looks like this car is also a no-go for track days. Shame.
I would love to see Mark in the backseat as Jack rips it around.
reat mid engine weight distrubutiiiiooooon
Big fan of videos off track and seeing how it drives on real roads. Awesome and honest video!
Last weekend I instructed a toyota GR experience student in his GR Corolla at Ozark International raceway and I have to say the car is pretty fantastic. Completely stock brakes are phenomenal. The suspension is damn good for a street car and handle a lot like a stock E46 M3 competition coupe. In track mode the AWD allowed the car to rotate in high speed corners. We didnt run into any heat related issues but air temps were 70's. As an occasional track day and street car the GR corolla is pretty fantastic. Looking forward to the aftermarket solving the heat related issues for dedicated tracking.
Midnight in Adelaide, South Australia. Time to watch some SavageGeese. Best car videos around. I have also learnt so much from you guys. Keep up the good work guys!
I love the hot hatch segment of the car world. I own a Focus RS. My interest in this series comes from my love of my car and the WRX, amongst all the other hot hatches. I would love to hear more comparisons to those (and the veloster N) in the series.
I shortlisted this car because it seems to perfect but after seeing all of the struggles just to use the performance of this car for more than 3 laps, I am very glad i bought a vb WRX. It’s perfect for this use case and has a very established and demonstrated aftermarket to support it. 340AWHP with an intake and tune, no cooling issues, FA500 coils and it’s loads better than a GR Corolla.
Disappointing to hear that the clutch pack, oil, and IATs are getting too hot after just a very short time on the track for a HPDE. That seems crazy to me given how Toyota positions this car.
What's more upsetting is Toyota didn't design a fix Or even plan on or for a future fix
The Gr overheats meanwhile Hyundai ran the Veloster N and Elantra N for 24 hours straight on track, no issues. And they’re not even dedicated track cars!
@@revmatchproductionsTrue, but the GR Corolla isn’t a dedicated track car, either.
Such auto emergency call should be introduced in F1: if a driver is complaining too much, the car shuts down communication to the team and calls local dealership instead. Amazing and very detailed content with brilliant cinematography, thank you for your hard work! A rare gem with consumer oriented approach!
Lewis wouldn't ever be able to talk to his team 💀
People have been putting a heat shield between the diff clutch pack and the exhaust and also wrapping the exhaust to cut down overheating.
That's got to help, at least for a while
Came for the car review, but stayed because of the matching Patagonia fleece and vinyl wrap. Fascinating to learn about the various heat issues and possible fixes. Going to be very interesting to see where this goes -- maybe some anodized green interior accents for the car and a leprechaun outfit for Mark?
That dream sequence and ending are f-ing hilarious, original, old Top Gear hilarious, I was spitting my Sake out. 🤜🏽❤️
Been enjoying my 23’ loaded Core. It was definitely worth waiting for my MSRP allocation at an upstate NY MSRP only dealership. I feel like at $37,500-$40,000 the car’s outstanding powertrain, transmission and chassis more than makes up for the Corolla interior parts.
Waiting is definitely the way to go, especially since Toyota already updated the car for the 24' model years. Paying markup for the worst version of the car is nonsense.
Which dealership?
Wait, I’m in upstate, which dealership?
Glad you're enjoying it! To the other upstate New Yorkers if you want to drive Watkins Glen reach out to me. My GR Corolla probably won't be tracked there (I have an older BMW for that) but it's nice to meet the GR family and get some people charging hard on track. I've also been to Pineview Run and I wanted to do New York Safety Track but ran out of funds :(
Is it possible to update the exterior from aftermarket.
The car looks really good! Perfect color with those wheels. Great fitment and its nice to see the tires sticking out a little bit past the rim
I always hated the tasteless visual of rims wider than tires. Perfectly vertical shoulder is my preference, but I'd rather tolerate a bit of ballooning over stretch tires.
Literally my fav color/rim combo, reminds me of the 86 Hakone edition 👌
mine to!
I would like to see a long term test of the Elantra N. This is an excellent video beautifully edited! The wrap is beautiful. Truly a shame that heat management makes this not a complete track car stock.
That would be an awesome series to watch
Honestly as much as look into offerings in this class the EN rises to the top every time. FWD only is a disappointment in basically anything other than clear weather, but the EN is extremely impressive overall.
After the heat issues I had with my 2019 type R. The Elantra N had been a wonderful experience.
@@Lost_investor888 is that what you have now? EN?
@@MeltingRubberZ28 yes
Rear clutch heat issues are a known issue from GR Yarris. Header wrap or heat shield on the exhaust from resonator to muffer resolves most of the Yarris. Seems like alot of the issues are due to the position of the clutch temp sensor being close to the exhaust so gives false readings. If you need to go further than than Cusco has a clutch cover with expanded capacity too.
The car wrapped in green looks incredible! It looks like an absolute blast to daily👍🏻
Great video as always! I also ran into the issue of my GRC calling the emergency call center multiple times when I was tracking at Laguna Seca. I'm surprised none of three people that I was connected with mentioned about disabling the feature as it was super annoying. Now I know I can disable it but apparently, disabling it will also disable all the related features to the subscription service, which includes Toyota app and I kind of want to keep it...
As for the rear diff (clutch pack) overheating issue, I titanium wrapped and added a heatshield on my exhaust near the unit and I even added a furnace shield on the temp sensor and the issue seems to be fixed so far. When ran stock, my GRC went into FWD only mode after three laps in 73f weather, but after adding those heat shields, I never had any overheating issues completing a full session even in 77+f weather. It can still happen in hotter weather but for now that's all I can do.
I love my GRC but it definitely needs some mods to be driven hard and reliably on the track whereas my Elantra N has been great without any issues even after 10+ track days.
If you have them disable it, can it be done permanently, or is it something that has to be done any time you plan to drive the car as it is meant to be driven?
@@neurokinetik It's permanent. I don't know if you can revert it tho.
@@elantran That's good, because that's actually what I would want.
Air conditioning re-route?
So which do you prefer for DD use? EN or GRC? It kinda seems like either of these would be my next car. Very likely will never step foot on a track, just spirited road driving.
That tuxmat commercial might be the best ad ever made. I was genuinely scared & titillated simultaneously. Well done lads. Well done.
As a GR Yaris owner (and big fan of SG) I found the deficiencies real but overblown! Clearly when you run 265 width tires in car with stock 225 you will significantly accelerate the rise of clutch pack temps. I run 245 Cup2’s and by adding a 70euro 3D printed device directing air flow to the clutch pack allows me 15-20min sessions in Hockenheim w/o issues during summer (and even it overheats a couple of cool down laps are enough to bring temps down). Try heat wrapping the exhaust and it’s even better. If not enough there is a differential cooler as well. Stock GRY pads are 60 euros and while they don’t last long (3-4 hard track days max) they are soft to the expensive brake rotors. With just tires and brake fluid change I could outlast many cars in Salzburgring. Oil temps rise but anyone who goes tracking often will have the oil cooler on top of the list. So I still believe it’s one of the best options out of the box for tracking (clearly at double the price of the GRY in Germany not a bargain). Try taking a stock Cayman S, M3 or RS3 to a trackday and see what happens to oil temps and brake pads/fluids. Would also expect a big aftermarket coming to US soon building on Asian/European parts for the GR Yaris (where some of them should fit straightaway)
Just a heads up we had this problem with the car stock and on our press car in previous video with car and driver.
Congratulations on getting MSRP. I will continue fighting my local dealers who are trying to automatically add 3 - 5K at the start of our conversation. You know it's bad when the sales-guy stops responding.
The stupid fucking Toyota by me is selling a USED one (base model) with 3000KM on it for 25% more (10K on top) here in Canada. Which is about $7000 USD. It’s kinda insane.
👍👍👍😂😂😂
Got mine coming in either the 20th or 21st, used Toyota Naperville as well. Apparently Illinois is spoiled by MSRP only dealers? St Charles also is MSRP only
Bought from Toyota of Galesburg, one of the worst experiences of my life. Paid 2.5k above MSRP (Circuit Edition)@@jegglz3845
is it just me, or my area? Toyota dealer people are not friendly at all.....
Many Type R owners cross shop the GR Rolla with the intent to track. Would be interested to have direct comparison of the deficiencies of each.
I've got a Type R and Yaris.
Type R is stock, the Yaris has some mods - Exhaust, downpipe, springs.
Type R is pretty much one league above when talking about how much car you get, but the gr is no less fun.
In rain and slippery conditions in general the Yaris is more fun, much faster too.
Type R is more mature, much better interior, ergonomics, electronics, more space.
Yaris has a bigger punch from below, Type R pulls more like an NA engine and is more fun to rev out.
Yaris feels lighter, Type R handles better, has better steering too.
Seating position, ergonomics, adjustability, trunk space all go to the Honda.
Overall VERY different feeling cars both fun in their own right.
Altho the Corolla seems like a fusion of both, combining the Type R's practicality with the Yaris' drivetrain I don't think I could swap my Type R for a Corolla.
These are my first japanese sportscars btw I always owned german cars, still have a GT4 to compliment the Yaris and Type R.
Type R feels/drives like a budget FWD GT3, great to have fun, drive fast/hard but also lots of creature comforts for daily driving and travelling with the family and very light for a modern car of that size.
More of a general impression than purely track related like you asked but hopefully still gives you some insight from someone who owns (and likes) both.
Purely track related, the Type R gives more fun at the limit than the GR IMO, making the GR more fun when not pushing too hard.
The green wrap and bronze wheels look amazing!
How do presumably competent engineers sign off on a performance model that has all of these temperature problems?
The big wig says "you have 2 weeks to figure it out, I already told the world that the car will be ready by then. Otherwise you're fired"
Engineer does whatever they can and hopes it doesn't surface, and tells their boss it's all done 2 weeks later.
Every Corvette ever made has cooling issues from the factory. It's just that the boomer-buying demographic never drives past 4/10ths, so it wasn't widely reported.
the car has no temp problems for the majority of people. those pushing very hard on track are the only ones who see it, guess what 90% of owners dont do, take the car out on track.
Almost every car made has problems running hard at the track, performance model or not. The closest comparison to this is probably the STi and it eats motors, so not so bad.
@@jc151racingsomething something motors are fixed in later gens, etc etc no motor problems in 30k miles
Love how the wrap is so close to the Toyota Black Forest metallic from the 2010s era
Kind of crazy what's needed to complete a track session without overheating, I have none of these issues at all on the stock cooling setup of my Elantra N and I'm stage1 tuned.
Elantra N is also FWD instead of AWD, and most of the heating issues are on parts the N doesn't have.
@@DarkLinkRevolution I mean, the N have engine oil and a air intake. No stock EN have to install a engine oil cooler cause it's hitting 290F in a session or have a bad designed air intake that suck air inside the engine bay. I'm just disappointed as the GRC Circuit is really expensive, like 59K CAD and you would think those issues would come up on heavily modified cars and not stock ones. It's not a track car but neither is the EN.
Great video as always! To my knowledge there are 3 ways to deal with the clutch pack problem that have been tested on the GR Yaris. The first one is to cover the rear exhaust with some insulating material, reason being that the exhaust goes pretty close to the clutch pack and heats it. The second way is to put a diffuser to direct air on the clutch pack (is on sale at TEGIWA Europe I believe).
And the third one is to put an oil cooler for the rear differential (sold by HEL performance), which does not share the same oil of the clutch pack but since it is close to it transfer a lot of heat to the clutch pack.
I recommend the RUclips channel Rötheli Racing to see the rear differential oil cooler and the exhaust insulation
Yeah, I'd read about these solutions too. I'm surprised they weren't mentioned in the video.
Rötheli Racing
I figured the air dam would do a lot of it. Didn't know the exhaust was right there. Makes a lot of sense why it does overheat.
i am still driving my s2000 , and it breathes and even runs better at this cool moment. what i have done only is the SPoon intake extension. i believe it really helps in summer too.
As a Spruce Mica Green (6V4) owner.. I was having heart murmurs about the likelihood of getting a green GR Corolla.. But knowing it is wrapped alleviates some anxieties. Beautiful colour choice!
I have a unpractical 350z drift missle and a 02 silverado 2500hd w/ 8.1L, was looking at corolla hybrid to daily now i want a GR thanks to your videos
The cinematography the end with the floor mats was pure gold . Super funny , I love it
Wish I had an extra $75k laying around to spend on a cool car, mods, and track days. Looks like fun.
the video exposes the fact that the GR C is not a very good track car--the rear diff overheats, the oil overheats, it cuts timing, good god it's terrible. You would be way better off building a dedicated track car from a kitcor something
That old adage "follow the money" still applies.
Drop 30k instead with a Gr86
I need to get a truck first.
@@yuriteixeira5816
@@yuriteixeira5816 An old eg or ek civic better option
Doesn't depreciate
This is a "don't meet your heroes" car. $50k for a Corolla, plus it's running a ton of boost to get the 300hp out of a 3 cylinder. As mentioned, a thermal nightmare. Curious how durable these engines will be long term.
I’d rather just get a 2015+ Mini JCW to 300hp with a tune on a turbo 4cyl… I understand it’s FWD but they have a racing team.
36k and it only has issues with track use. If you're only using it on the street with spirited driving you'll never have an issue.
@@Stand-back-up Alternatively BMW 120i F20 with same B48 engine. M140i and M2 bits mostly bolt on.
Great ending.
Re: the crash detection system. I tracked my V60 recharge over the summer, and when the crash detection system freaked out over excessive braking round a sharp corner, it reacted by tightening and locking down my seat belt to an extremely uncomfy degree. Like, shallow breaths only. And it wouldnt let up until i got off track and unbuckled. I drove to have fun, not set lap times, so i only triggered the crash detection once... But once was enough for me to take it a lil easier the rest of the day
The Lycos Web Search query alone made the product placement segment classic.
This has been my favorite tux mat ad.
This video is incredible. Really appreciate all the information. Wrap and wheel education was actually helpful. Even if some things are sponsored you guys do a really good job making it useful and entertaining. Ends was amazing of course.
That wrap and color came out GREAT! Unlike my first child that looks suspiciously like Jack.
Every time Jack heard another limitation his face has me DYING laughing 😂
I recently picked up a 2023 Core with all options (performance, cold climate, and JBL speakers) with a slight mark-up; I paid slightly more than $42k. In my opinion, the Circuit Edition wasn’t worth the extra $5k-ish compared with a maxed out Core at MSRP. I prefer the matte plastic over the glossy exterior trim pieces and was indifferent to the hood and roof that the CE offered. Unfortunately, in SoCal where I live, it was very difficult to get a Core at or near MSRP. There were very few Circuit Editions available but those models were pushing $50k+ with markups.
I was cross shopping with a new Type R but, unfortunately, I was not able to find any that were under $50k. Also, I'm not a fan of red interior though it's not really a deal breaker.
Some dealerships were sneaky because they would tell me “we only sell at MSRP” but then charge $5k - $8k in “dealer-installed equipment”. The other dealers I dealt with would just have a flat “market-adjustment” of usually the same amount.
I don’t regret my purchase because I’ll never track my GR Corolla and I think the GR Corolla is a better street car, considering the overheating issues with the oil and rear transmission portion of the car in track conditions. So far, I haven’t experienced any overheating issues.
I’m getting old now, being in my mid 30s, but I still find myself enjoying the drive in my GR Corolla. It really reminds me of my previous 2019 Subaru STI in regards to interior and driving experience although the STI had more soft touch areas. It’s odd because I’ve come full circle…after I sold the STI, I got a 2021 BMW M2C and now I’m back in a JDM car. I think at MSRP, and for a strictly street car, I think the Core model is a great value to those that want the JDM experience.
Don't talk yourself into "getting old" just yet mate. Plenty of time for that in a couple of decades (if ever)!
@@dielaughing73
You’re right, I should rephrase that as I’m getting older, I thought my tastes would change, but at the moment, it hasn’t. As much as I liked my M2C, the general maintenance costs of a BMW M are just crazy. I did the brakes myself and just for OEM pads and rotors, it was $2.5k. The other reason is being a coupe and limited space.
@@TigerClaw03 holy crap, I just yesterday bought track pads and cheap rotors for my Miata at about 600USD all up, front and rear. OEM would have been more, to be fair
Lol, this thing is a temp shit show….
31:02 segment is hilarious. Jack "piano" Black bringing that Johnny Business attitude.
I have a white CE. The sheer amount of information packed into this video is amazing. Thank you! I don’t know if I’ll ever track it like you guys do but it’s good to know what it’s limitations are.
The one thing I don't get is this. The average American family earns $72k a year. Most financial institutions/Planners advise not to spend more than 30% of your annual income on the purchase price of a vehicle. That would be just under $22k for a car. To "Afford" the the vehicle. WIth the GR BASE price (if you can even get one at that price) yoru looking at $36k plus. So whose buying these?? Most that buy these cars, really can't afford them. I would imagine many of these cars will be up for sale used as Repo's. The whole moral of the story is, buy something with your money that will appreciate in value. Not be a depreciating asset. Yes, some may argue this is a "Collectors" car, and it may be 20 30 yrs from now, but I speciously doubt ANY new buyer in the USA will keep one that long. Just something to think about before you think of buying any new car. Drive something cheap, but reliable, save your money. You will Thank Me Later.
The wrap with the Apex wheels came out looking amazing. Saddened to find out the issues with overheating, but I always saw this car as a back road car and not as a track weapon.
Love that dark green color! Good choice.
Don't see many green cars now days, it was more popular in the past.
Looks like different shades of gray are getting very popular now.
@@bextar6365 Gray and silver are the same colour as paint primer. I can scratch my Apex Silver Mitsubishi and it still looks fine.
I can scratch my green motorcycle and notice it from 30 feet away.
I hate commercials/advertisements, but I literally laugh out loud at your ads but more importantly - trust your recommendations that I’ll get something quality. Definitely going to grab me some tux mats!
Thanks for shilling the tuxmats mark, they were a blessing to have on my s2000. They survived a leaking oil bottle and it cleaned up so easily.
That green looks almost identical to my Dark Highland Green on my Bullitt. Love that color, it looks like it pops in the sun and is deep and rich in the shade.
Aside that, it's pretty crazy that Toyota built a track/sports car (albeit out of the Corolla) and it is having so many performance issues when driven hard.
The clear and simple solution to the emergency detection problem is just to have it automatically disable when you put it in a certain driving mode.
LAWYERS
Just see if there is a fuse for the modem
Or pull the sim card.
Hyundai has a small battery for sos, you could unplug it and it will stop working, but it is hidden behind all kind of plastics in the interior
This is one hot hatch I was genuinely disappointed with. I drove one after finding a dealer within reasonable distance of me that wanted sticker price for a loaded core edition, and when I tell you that was the shortest test drive of my life. It was the most boring 300 hp/273 tq I've ever experienced. But that wasn't even the bad part. What really disappointed me about this car was how planted yet rubbery it was. There wasn't enough character or drama because of the lack of thrill and feedback. I cannot imagine anyone wasting money on a marked up one. There are better options for less money.
Crazy how much work you need to do to a "Circuit" edition to actually get it ready for the track. Considering how much money they cost, you'd think they would come ready out of the box for the customer
Naw its simple. New airbox, some sort of oil cooler. Then you just need to design from scratch a rear clutch pack. You can do that in a weekend ;)
So simple, just a few more thousands dollars of mods and potentially losing the engine warrranty if shits break cause you installed a oil cooler. @@BCNeil
I agree man but anyone buying one of these over msrp isnt working on the car themselves anyways the average joe would see this being more of an issue.
Did multiple track days with a stock GRC CE with 0 issues. You don't need to do anything to make it track ready.
I think you guys nailed what the GRC is all about in the end. Its not gonna be a darling in the track but it will give you a fun driving experience in the street in all seasons. I don’t care about taking my car to the track so these issues do not apply to me. I am looking forward to what Limit +1 can do in these cars especially their oem plus line.
Same interior across their entire line, so a $60,000 car will have identical interior issues to a $25,000 Corolla. That's kind of ripped off!
This color combo is nearly identical to my deep green metallic '95 Talon TSI AWD with gold/bronze evo 8 enkeis. Such a understated and tasteful combination.
Me casually pulling 1.25 G on the street with “low grip” PS4S… which are at least as good as, but better in some aspects, than the factory Goodyear Eagle Super Car 2’s I replaced.
I’ll be keeping my ‘18 Focus RS, Mark & Jack. 😂
What a shitbox! as comfortable as falling down a flight of stairs.
I have a GR Corolla Circuit edition and will tell you outright that it's not a track car! Where this car feels best is on the curves of the open road driven hard! I find it to be a really good rally car. I have a 1990 Galant GSX converted to turbo with all GVR4 goodies except the rear steering and the GR Corolla feels like a newer version of the Galant with less legroom, but all of the newest creature comforts and cup holders. If I feel like a track day, I will take my 2019 Camaro SS1LE 10 times out of 10 instead of the Corolla unless its cold or raining. Cold, Wet, Loose ground is where the Corolla loves to live and excels at driving excitement. This is also a great travel vehicle as it has all of the safety features and will basically drive itself 20 seconds at a time and then makes you grab the wheel. The only thing I have reservations about is driving it in the snow, because I don't want the salt to ruin the vehicle. I know this would be a perfect winter driver, but I think this car may be too special to let the salt eat away at it. I have a 99 Camry that I will run in the winter with over 220,000 miles that runs great and everything still works, but what are everyone's thoughts about driving the Corolla in the salty winter?
Rust check it and it will be fine. Have a 2015 tacoma which are known to rust and I rust check it ever year. No rust so far. Bad side is that it does make the engine bay messy after a few years, so gotta have a rag on you to keep hands clean even just for replacing windshield washer fluid. I did it to my 23 gr corolla as that's the reason I bought it, to have fun in winter.
I don't blame you for not wanting to drive the GRC in the winter but I'd assume, with how far engineering has come with galvanized parts, cars don't rot even close to the way they once did. I have a GRC Circuit and think it's the coolest thing, I'm reluctant to put miles on it living here in Florida!
I already wanted a GR Corolla for a daily driver way too much. Wrapping a circuit edition in green just made me incredibly jealous.
As a Canadian dealing with winter roads 5 months a year, this car makes SO much sense. My S2000 is great, but I can only access the fun it delivers 6 months a year
Also Canadian and I have the same thoughts. In Canada especially the mountains this would be the best daily driver. Now I just need to win the lottery to afford it and the gas prices
Yah, it's really hard for me to justify $65k for what is still a Corolla in every non-performance metric. There are a lot of amazing lightly used cars for that money
Interesting color choice.
Reminds me of the green Eddie Bauer edition Ford Explorers from the late 90's...
Looks good on it! Especially with those bronze wheels.
yeesss...i love those so much, ive only ever seen two. and I hope to one day see a dark green town car with a brown cloth top. i love those weird old person styles
I wonder if some of the aftermarket stuff that is already built for the GR Yaris can be used for the GR Corolla as well since they both have the same underpinnings underneath.
I figured stuff like engine & clutch pack options are interchangeable between the two (That Eventuri intake was firstly designed for the Yaris). Motive Video i think also has some videos detailing what to expect when you are tuning the engine (they were one of the first shops to push the G16E 3cyl to its limits)
Jack decided to t-bone the car at the end in hopes of totalling this GR shitbox to go back to a corvette and reclaim his manhood. Good job gorilla Jack! Hope nobody was hurt
that floor mat ad is literally the best thing I've seen from any car channel
The ending was hilarious. Seems like a great streetcar
The over heating rear diff is something Toyota needs to fix, 10-15 mins before the rear diff over heats and switches to fwd mode. I saw you guys on Autobahn on Sept 30th, I had the same issue in my GR Corolla with my sessions.
your review is always so honest. when this car is out, everyone is bragging about the performance but nobody is talking about the cooling issue. the similar mechanical awd structure is in focus rs as well and that car producted 2016-2017 had this problem already knew to the community.
Another masterpiece car video… I love the film noir ad for Tux Mats as well!
Love the wrap color, especially in combination with the wheels ❤ I hope you'll have a lot of fun with the car. I'm looking forward to this series. It's a shame we don't get them here in Europe.
Paying 50k is a little steep for a corolla
I love that Wrap. Almost British Racing.
so much info in this video, well done. looking forward to this series!
These videos are simply unrivaled
Loved my corolla but sold it for a Elantra N which is way more fun and capable on track
Id rather drive Elantra N as well.
@@savagegeese it's also just better value. Hyundai have come a long way
Yikes!
What’s this thing cost?
Miata?
Too soon?
But seriously thanks for telling it like it is as always.
I appreciate it as I’m sure may others do.
Great video and detail- this channel should be well over 1 million subs already!
Love the psychological horror short at the end! Top class!