GR Corolla: Best New Toyota in Over 20 Years? - Two Takes

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @TheSmokingTire
    @TheSmokingTire  2 года назад +13

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    • @TheJahbrother
      @TheJahbrother 2 года назад +1

      Do u really like these bro? Maybe I’ll try I struggle with meal planning lol

    • @BanzaiYaris
      @BanzaiYaris 2 года назад

      Were you pushing and holding the traction control button until the expert mode (traction off but not really) vanishes? Takes a few seconds but once the expert mode pops on then off again everything is off. Then you can absolutely do donuts in it! :)

    • @sepg5084
      @sepg5084 2 года назад

      GR Yaris is still better though.

  • @southernpimp5252
    @southernpimp5252 2 года назад +771

    Unfortunately the general consumer will never own one without paying 2x the price due to dealership mark-ups.

    • @brunotulliani
      @brunotulliani 2 года назад +67

      So true and best comment! $56k CAD at 8.6% interest = unaffordable.

    • @lexburen5932
      @lexburen5932 2 года назад +26

      you can thank your government for it. They force the dealers to have these markups, so american cars can sell more. American people should protest

    • @aregaminghd
      @aregaminghd 2 года назад

      @@lexburen5932 where are you even sourcing this from? you're pulling shit out of your ass. the government has nothing to do with auto sales. the individual dealerships are the ones to blame.

    • @joetacchino4470
      @joetacchino4470 2 года назад +95

      @@lexburen5932 Really? Really? LOL, go try to buy a Z06 or a Shelby GT 500. If you actually believe this, I'm sorry.

    • @andrewrossnagel9433
      @andrewrossnagel9433 2 года назад +31

      This isnt a Z06 or a GT3. No one who pays for those types of marks will be looking at a Toyota. Yeah they might have a mark up for a small while but when you compare the price of this with dealer mark ups to other cars in its price range the interest for this will quickly dwindle. I walked away from a 30k mark up on an Emira I ordered because no one with half a brain thinks that car is worth 130k (used gt3 prices) Same goes with this. At the end of the day its a souped up Toyota corolla and no one will touch this when you can buy a used M3/911 or whatever is in its price range with mark ups. 50k is already too much to 90% of people that have any desire for this car

  • @hensh911
    @hensh911 2 года назад +87

    I’ve had my Scarlet Flare GR Yaris Circuit Pack for three weeks and 750 miles now (after an eighteen month wait). And it seems that the GRC really is pretty much the GRY but a bit bigger. All the good things of my car carry over to the Corolla, and I recognise a lot of the same hardware both mechanically and internally.
    For me, being from Japan, I love to see Akio’s mission for Toyota of ‘No more boring cars’ coming to fruition with such aplomb. As no one doubts their ability to make competent and reliable cars (LFA!). And I’m proud to be part of that in a small way with my GR Yaris. Bravo Toyota!

    • @leeengland1748
      @leeengland1748 2 года назад +4

      Lightness wins

    • @aluisious
      @aluisious 2 года назад +2

      Enjoy buddy. I live in an apartment and I can’t even park my CTS Vsport in the carport because my Ducati lives there. If I had the house in the hills with the big garage I’d be right there with you. One day soon enough, I promise my house will be in the foothills of a 4K foot mountain. But not quite yet. Let’s hope they still sell dino burners by then.

    • @mengx94
      @mengx94 2 года назад

      Dunno about it being a yaris cause it's a different beast. Corolla is meant to be balanced. Yaris is the juan to get, but I'll be happy with the corolla.

    • @ciello___8307
      @ciello___8307 2 года назад +1

      @@mengx94 it literally shares some of the subframe as the gr yaris

    • @hensh911
      @hensh911 2 года назад +1

      @@aluisious I live in London where it’s almost impossible to have off-street parking (very few houses have a drive/garage), so a few years ago I decided that I’d just have nice cars anyway. My GRY and 997 are both on the street (my motorcycle fits in the front yard). Not ideal, but at least I get to enjoy them sooner. 😄

  • @sasha-taylor
    @sasha-taylor 2 года назад +166

    the Aussies have already begun proving the legendary performance and strength of this 3 cylinder (since they got the Yaris). They've pushed them to 500awhp with nothing but valve springs, cooling mods, and a bigger turbo, before the mls head gasket finally started getting pushed thru. 500 wheel, from a 1.6 i3. the ports on the heads are massive, the bottom ends are strong, it's got a reinforced block right outta the box, it's ridiculously overbuilt. I mean, it's making more specific output (power per liter) than the best 2gz-gte's with less done to it.

    • @fry.master
      @fry.master 2 года назад +23

      Fun fact, multiply this engine by 2 to make it a twin turbo inline 6, and you have the mythical 3jz…

    • @sasha-taylor
      @sasha-taylor 2 года назад +3

      @@fry.master I've had that thought. It'd be really cool to see that become a reality, though I have my doubts that it'd be financially viable for Toyota to take on building a 3.2L tt inline 6 race engine for street cars. Rally homologation was the only excuse for the 1.6 in the first place, and that was already a stretch haha

    • @philipkircher2848
      @philipkircher2848 2 года назад +13

      Slow down. You boost this thing to 500 hp and you are going to have to put a seriously expensive clutch and transmission in it.
      Making power is pretty easy. Doing that and having a streetable, reliable car requires a whole lot more money.

    • @fry.master
      @fry.master 2 года назад +3

      @@philipkircher2848 Stock clutch can take 400lb ft and the transmission much more. Performance aftermarket parts that cant take 500whp are few and far between nowadays, its 2022 who the hell would bother making or buying anything that cant

    • @fzr1000981
      @fzr1000981 2 года назад +3

      I'd take the 2.5L five cylinder in the RS3 (proven well over 600 hp for 10+ years) any day over a 1.5 3 cyl

  • @tone3560
    @tone3560 2 года назад +38

    I personally like the chorizo edition

  • @apodski
    @apodski 2 года назад +82

    I really love the chunky tires, so refreshing for a performance car. Comfortable, durable, light. Manufacturers always use giant wheels these days to compensate for bad body styling and sloppy numb cars. Makes it actually usable on mountain roads that typically have pot holes. 20" wheels and tires get bent and blown out constantly in the north east.

    • @camryt
      @camryt 2 года назад +9

      This so much. I laugh at Honda being so proud of reducing wheel size from 20” to 19” in the Type R. Even 19” in a compact car is too much!

    • @danielgladston1785
      @danielgladston1785 2 года назад +8

      100%. I had a previous gen Type R and downsized to 18s. Never looked back. I'm in NJ. Toyota's decision to go with smaller wheels here was the right call.

    • @pan4632
      @pan4632 2 года назад +4

      I would probably downsize even further to 17s on a car like this, especially for winter

    • @livewoutlimit
      @livewoutlimit 2 года назад +2

      Such a good decision to equip 18's. My mk7 golf R came with 19's and I bent/broke 3 of them in 1st year in NY. I've put on a set of flow-formed 18's and haven't had any issues. Such a weird trend to put bigger and bigger wheels on cars; they do look good in some applications but it becomes counterproductive.

    • @apodski
      @apodski 2 года назад +2

      @@pan4632 Yeah, 17" would be optimal. OZ Superturismo would match the good OEM style. Not sure what brake clearance is though, might need forged 17" to clear.

  • @LoXHumaN
    @LoXHumaN 2 года назад +285

    With dealer markups you’ll see these go for $60k+, I really hate the car market right now

    • @04dram04
      @04dram04 2 года назад +7

      There are plenty of cool and affordable used cars though

    • @gothops154
      @gothops154 2 года назад +5

      No you’ll see them listed for that price. We can only hope no body is actually going to buy them for that price and validate the dealerships pricing them that way. If no one buys them, the price will go down

    • @Defy_Convention
      @Defy_Convention 2 года назад +1

      Money printing

    • @melondoc
      @melondoc 2 года назад +13

      Cool car at MSRP but laughable at 60K plus.

    • @CrazyPr0ducti0ns
      @CrazyPr0ducti0ns 2 года назад +3

      ​@@melondocit's a shame that dealers aren't even attempting to improve it

  • @WatchHobbyist
    @WatchHobbyist 2 года назад +21

    I’ve got a GR Yaris here in the UK. Epic car and the engine/drivetrain is proving very reliable. It can take a beating and supercars don’t see which way it went on a British b-road with bumps and crests. We need more cars like this; it’s the best way to have fun on road. Track editions make no sense to me though.

  • @sarahdell4042
    @sarahdell4042 2 года назад +41

    I was so excited when this was announced. But given 95% of the dealers are charging markups, and now Toyota can’t even make them. I could careless.
    Over the last 2 years I’ve lost out on 3 new vehicles that I ordered. When they arrived the sewers tried hitting me with markups.
    I’ve been a life long enthusiast, but sadly it’s fading due to how sewers and automakers are treating customers.
    I’ll never purchase another new car in my life because of this.

    • @ElectricusTus
      @ElectricusTus 2 года назад +6

      Oh, it's worse. It's not that Toyota can't make more, it's that they won't make more.

    • @sarahdell4042
      @sarahdell4042 2 года назад +9

      @@ElectricusTus So dumb.
      I’m fortunate to have the funds to pay whenever for this stuff, but simply refuse to reward this behavior.
      I wish others would do the same.

    • @axe2grind244
      @axe2grind244 2 года назад +2

      It’s a joke. I also have the means to buy what I want, but until I get an explicitly detailed explanation as to how $40k cars turned into $80k cars these companies will never get my money. I’d buy an Elantra N if anything, it’s a $34k car being sold for……$34k.

    • @sarahdell4042
      @sarahdell4042 2 года назад +1

      @@axe2grind244 It’s really sad. Definitely killed loads of passion from me. I’m also into motorcycles, and have leaned heavily into that over the last two years. Some stuff was hard to get, but I paid msrp or slightly under.

    • @sawyermartin4434
      @sawyermartin4434 2 года назад +1

      Why would you ever "order" a vehicle without signing a buyer's order & agreeing to a price, first? My guess is that you never ordered anything. You likely put down a blind deposit with a dealer & never talked about price, then complained when they got a car similar to what you want allocated to them & lost out on the car when it arrived & you tried to negotiate on a price. Don't ever give a dealership a deposit without agreeing on numbers first. Very simple process.

  • @stevecristea3082
    @stevecristea3082 2 года назад +50

    Looks we are traveling back in time to 2003 when Mitsubishi brought the lancer evo 8 to the states. This time Toyota is having a run at it.

    • @damienlee1165
      @damienlee1165 2 года назад +2

      And I suspect they used their stake in Subaru to get them to withhold the new STI so there would be less competition in the space.

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr Год назад

      hell shelby had the mach1 and mustang cobra during that time too offering an ideal "modern" benchmark for american muscle or at least showed ppl what the modular and independent rear suspension could offer to the mustang/platform.

    • @Reginald_Harrison
      @Reginald_Harrison 7 месяцев назад +1

      Except this car comes stock with 25lbs of boost. Not a whole lot of overhead to safely modify this 3 banger.

  • @MyDirtydan
    @MyDirtydan 2 года назад +14

    I've read a lot of articles comparing this car to the new type r, the Subaru, and it seems like people forgot that toyota actually has a long pedigree of rally racing. I like that toyota is reminding people that they can make a wonderfully capable performance car.

  • @Chewygsxr
    @Chewygsxr Год назад +3

    Hi guys, I've had 4 Toyota trucks and a Matrix XR, they were all Bullet-proof, I got a new Fiesta ST in 2014 and still have it, it's on a Cobb stage two tune, short shift, motor mount, and many visual improvements, it still looks Showroom, it has 105,000 miles on it now and I'm getting ready for my 7th set of tires, I run the Michelin Pilot Sport AS 4'S I love the grip but only get 20,000 miles on a set, at 75 years young I still love driving on three wheels, all my friends can't believe I'm still on the stock clutch. No major problems at all, I did get a boost leak on the oil separator, it was a $190 part. I might test drive one, but I really love my ST, there so rare, I get compliments on a daily basis on my car.Keep up the great videos. The Fiesta Flash.

  • @bobskinner4389
    @bobskinner4389 2 года назад +7

    The GR Corolla just reinforces my reason for not buying a GT86 /GR 86 /BRZ. Just think how good the 86 would be with this engine instead of the weak Subaru motor.

  • @kristjanveski
    @kristjanveski Год назад +6

    I picked the standard Corolla hatch for my parents when it came out because they were in need of a reliable grocery getter. It was the only small, cheap car I test drove that felt balanced and actually handled well, like surprisingly well. But now with this GR, I'm thinking about one for myself. Every review has been positive and I can only imagine how much fun this is to blast around. Small, balanced, 300HP, AWD.. proper hot hatches are back!

  • @Steve-ii8bs
    @Steve-ii8bs Год назад +6

    I was on the list for two local dealers. Last week I got the call, My GR Corolla was in. After the test drive I was informed there was a slight market adjustment of 12K or 25% markup. I quickly passed. I am number 2 on the other dealers list. They do not mark up. The do come with all three packages, all weather floor mats and for some reason a roof rack (from what I’m seeing, they all come this way). Out the door a tad over 40k. So I’ll be waiting patiently

    • @leospaceman2976
      @leospaceman2976 8 месяцев назад

      Did it work out?

    • @Reginald_Harrison
      @Reginald_Harrison 7 месяцев назад

      Dealerships are trying to kill all the praise Toyota deserves.

  • @Flatsixfiesta
    @Flatsixfiesta 2 года назад +11

    Chemistry between Zach and Matt has really improved. Y'all really hitting your stride on these.

  • @jackmehoff5204
    @jackmehoff5204 2 года назад +7

    GR Corolla, civic si and type R only in manual. Everything else in this category of car can be with a manual as well. These are good times.

    • @jimboyokel
      @jimboyokel 2 года назад +1

      Too bad all those cars have ridiculous markups.

  • @davidsteinhour5562
    @davidsteinhour5562 2 года назад +54

    I can't express how happy it makes me to see good new cars like this.

  • @pierresauve8612
    @pierresauve8612 2 года назад +7

    I just hope Toyota sees the value in offering this engine for sale like Honda does with the Type R motor. Having that 3cyl sold in a crate and stuffed into older Toyotas would be incredible

  • @johnm1008
    @johnm1008 2 года назад +5

    I worked for Honda at their Marysville assembly plant and I worked where the floor, side panels, and roof are joined together and welded. The steel roof was shockingly light, when a manufacturer says that using carbon fiber for the roof saves ounces they aren't lying.

    • @criSOME1
      @criSOME1 2 года назад

      Do you mean to say that the steel roof was heavy, if not then why opt for light carbon?

  • @basementality4924
    @basementality4924 2 года назад +63

    Just an FYI I know you haven’t driven it in a little while but you do not have to go into the menus to turn off rev matching in the veloster N or Elantra N. It’s on the steering wheel. When you put it on your custom mode you can have it off without turning it off every time also.

    • @perfblue_n
      @perfblue_n 2 года назад +4

      I was bout to say this my self lol as a VN owner the rev match also defaults to off!

    • @wdc_nathan
      @wdc_nathan 2 года назад +3

      Came here to say this.

    • @meCmoni
      @meCmoni 2 года назад +1

      Lol first thing I thought. Like dude there's a button lol.

  • @vegasdavis5404
    @vegasdavis5404 2 года назад +9

    Thanks for giving your opinion on how much you would pay for the car if it’s marked up at dealership. I never hear anyone talking about this who is experts and I really appreciate the fact you guys do talk about it

  • @chrisbenard7509
    @chrisbenard7509 2 года назад +6

    I own a GR Yaris here in Australia. Luckily I ordered mine the day of release here at the introductory price of AUD$39950 drive away. These markups are insane. Worth the money at RRP. A great fun car reminiscent of the Celica GT4

    • @relleck2036
      @relleck2036 2 года назад +1

      Damn you made out like a bandit mate, yeah Toyota really went back to their rallycross roots with these cars I LOVE the Celica GT4s. I got an 88 celica gt that I plan to convert to a GT4, gonna be a lot of work.

    • @xcaret-ns3pb
      @xcaret-ns3pb Год назад

      You got a deal my friend, here in Mexico almost double the price, due to the exchange rate.👍👍✌️

    • @chrisbenard7509
      @chrisbenard7509 Год назад

      @@xcaret-ns3pb Sorry to hear that, at least you got the chance to buy a GR Yaris in Mexico. You guys love your cars and motorsports, cheers!😀

  • @rjnation5042
    @rjnation5042 2 года назад +10

    8 mins in & I'm wishing you guys got a chance to drive the GR Yaris, I've got 12000kms on mine & it's still impressing me every time I get in it, Rj in Oz

    • @mattyoz0
      @mattyoz0 2 года назад

      Slow, gear box is too notchy and interior is garbage. Mines gone as soon as I'm on holidays.

    • @stevemiller1626
      @stevemiller1626 2 года назад

      @@mattyoz0 bro wat

    • @mattyoz0
      @mattyoz0 2 года назад

      @@stevemiller1626 that's my opinion of my gr rallye.

    • @Dmxravin
      @Dmxravin 2 года назад

      @@mattyoz0 you move the gear knob before fully depressing the clutch.

    • @mattyoz0
      @mattyoz0 2 года назад

      @@Dmxravin
      Every single owner has said the gearbox is notchy as hell. The first batch of cars had gearbox problems with it jumping out of gear while accelerating.

  • @FreshlySnipes
    @FreshlySnipes 6 месяцев назад +2

    I’ve been driving manuals for years and absolutely love auto-rev match. . my G80 M3 has it and it’s the Tits. Now I can’t be bothered with heel toe blips

  • @thomaschristopherwhite9043
    @thomaschristopherwhite9043 2 года назад +7

    I'm so glad that the hype ended up being real for this car.

  • @damienlee1165
    @damienlee1165 2 года назад +7

    According to Donut, a CTR sold in San Jose for around 70k. With these starting at around 35k, and with the limited production, i cant imagine these going out the door for anything less than 45k even for a poverty spec one.

    • @touringteg
      @touringteg 2 года назад +1

      $70k USD FL5! Yikes.

    • @autofocuscarsvids719
      @autofocuscarsvids719 2 года назад

      I'm a depositer and if they want too much, I'll be waiting or just get my money back and move on.

    • @damienlee1165
      @damienlee1165 2 года назад +2

      @@autofocuscarsvids719 Hope you get a fair price, I drove by a Toyota dealer with a massive sign that read "nothing over msrp" and chuckled a little knowing that dealer probably isn't getting any of the GR Rollas.

  • @cls63amgwagon34
    @cls63amgwagon34 2 года назад +7

    Guys… stop paying ADM, and stop suggesting that there is any reasonable amount to pay in ADM… that is the only way to stop ADM, period.

  • @johnconnor2402
    @johnconnor2402 2 года назад +4

    The Honda Fit Type R that we never got. Awesome to see Toyota making sports cars fun again!

  • @iMANTlS
    @iMANTlS 2 года назад +5

    What an era we live. 3cyl generates as much power and torque as an old 8cyl. But also costs the same :(

  • @CrazyDavy22
    @CrazyDavy22 2 года назад +3

    The button to turn auto-rev-matching off is a hard button on the Veloster N. It’s right on my steering wheel.

  • @DekiaryCarter
    @DekiaryCarter 2 года назад +4

    This would make for a fun winter car in the mountains. I'd love to see this in the rain and snow with proper tires. I bet it is a beast!!

  • @milanmathew6230
    @milanmathew6230 2 года назад +25

    That g16 3 cylinder motor is such a capable engine , a guy in UAE tuned up this gr Yaris with the same engine to around 600hp and ran a 10.54 1/4 mile . So just imagine having 600hp in a corolla and too in a brand new one💀

    • @sheshd
      @sheshd 2 года назад +2

      Ekanoo: "Am I a joke to you?"

    • @kilroywashere9678
      @kilroywashere9678 2 года назад +1

      @@sheshd I think that is Ekanoo😂

    • @milanmathew6230
      @milanmathew6230 Год назад

      @@kilroywashere9678 yes ekanoo😂

  • @nickmcgarvey6463
    @nickmcgarvey6463 2 года назад +3

    So when Toyota builds the next fun Toyota without help from Subaru or BMW, it's the best Toyota in 20 years. That's is deliciously obvious and puts a smile on my face.

  • @gtirate
    @gtirate 2 года назад +15

    The thing that always made "hothatchs" so dope, was they were attainable performance. You often couldn't find similar performance and fun for the money. While I'm happy cars like this and the Civic Type R exist. At this price point I just don't get it.

    • @axe2grind244
      @axe2grind244 2 года назад +3

      Imagine telling someone from 25 years ago that in 2022 a Civic would cost $80k, a Corolla would cost $70k and a Golf would cost $60+k.

    • @ciello___8307
      @ciello___8307 2 года назад +1

      @@axe2grind244 obviously the automakers arent selling at that msrp. The dealers are the big problem

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr Год назад +1

      considering how willing we as consumers are to contact these auto manufacturers directly...only a matter of time till they PHASE out dealerships into "PURE" service centers...and are delivering cars to customers willing to order/wait 6+months at a time for a car. Look at the trend ford is heading this is already the direction theyre moving. If toyota follows we wont have to worry about BS concepts like dealer mark ups in the future. Or theyll be "franchised" under toyota and have to offer "ideal" pricing/service etc vs being independently owned/ran.

  • @malcolmar
    @malcolmar 2 года назад +1

    I LOVE that Toyota had the vision and the courage to make this car and price it the way they did. Went to my Toyota dealership the other day for some service on my current Toyota and one of the workers said I would most likely never see a GR Corolla in the showroom because the demand is so high. What that translates to is if I do see one, the markups would probably be through the roof. So sad. Oh well, I thought I would never get my CTR for sticker but I did and now it is worth more than I bought it so I hope to have a GR Corolla as well.

  • @EnternalFlamez
    @EnternalFlamez 2 года назад +35

    Damn, not having a center console/arm rest is going to be a big issue for me . Even my Mini had a small one and it’s just so key for comfort , even if it wasn’t for usability so much but not having one will be difficult to stomach.

    • @SpawnNL
      @SpawnNL 2 года назад +10

      There will be plenty of aftermarket installs available in no time.

    • @spike_021
      @spike_021 2 года назад +1

      @@SpawnNL yep same happened with the 86/brz/frs platform (first gen)

    • @danielgladston1785
      @danielgladston1785 2 года назад

      I'm betting on the aftermarket as well although I heard from other journalists that the production versions will have them. Guess time will tell.

    • @hensh911
      @hensh911 2 года назад

      The gear knob is at such a height that the hand rests naturally on it. Not an arm rest but a hand rest. 😅

    • @phattiger1506
      @phattiger1506 2 года назад +1

      My Polo GTi doesn't have an arm rest, and I've had it for 10 years and i have never felt a need for one? I've also never used an arm rest in any other car, so maybe it's the way I sit

  • @JTube571
    @JTube571 2 года назад +8

    This car, the Elantra N, and the new Type R, are all on my future car shopping list. Right now, they are too expensive, and dealers think they can sucker people out of another $20k on mark ups. For now I will drive my 15+ year old cars until these ones are actually obtainable.

    • @damienfrizzell9394
      @damienfrizzell9394 2 года назад +1

      Even the n?

    • @SLeeSG
      @SLeeSG 2 года назад

      Only a Hyundai troll would say such a thing. Important to know what a car is before bringing such nonsense.
      By the way, Hyundai, a company that literally killed people while blaming them for their defects, even in new cars, doesn’t deserve the mention. Please respect.

    • @JTube571
      @JTube571 2 года назад

      @@SLeeSG WTF are you going on about? Get a life dude.

    • @IzzyEG6
      @IzzyEG6 2 года назад +1

      Shop around....you can get the N at MSRP. You might have to get on a plane to get it and drive it back like I did, but it can be had.

  • @banzaiib
    @banzaiib 2 года назад +2

    I honestly didn't think Toyota would bring this to the States. Wow. Awesome to see. If i was 10 years younger, i'd snatch this up in a heartbeat.

    • @1209MArky
      @1209MArky 2 года назад +2

      Why does age matter Lmaoo

    • @banzaiib
      @banzaiib 2 года назад +2

      @@1209MArky because 10 years ago, I didn't have a wife and kids, and I could hoon it up whenever I wanted.

    • @xcaret-ns3pb
      @xcaret-ns3pb Год назад +2

      Dude you can make it a fun family car!!!👍👍👍🙏

  • @justingrall7566
    @justingrall7566 6 месяцев назад +1

    I bought a 2023 GR Carolla for sticker price last August when I had a 2015 Subaru WRX that I bought new in 2015 but I really enjoyed my WRX but I thought it could be better and since I had it paid off I could have made it better but I sold it to a dealership for $11,000 so I put $11,000 down when buying my GR Carolla and I've got about 12,000 miles on the car and I don't really feel it's worth the price tag so at the moment it's for sale but if I wasn't living paycheck to paycheck then maybe I'd have a different outlook on it.

  • @stevethomas760
    @stevethomas760 2 года назад +3

    In the big scheme of things an armrest would be nice. I own a car that the manufacturer was really trying to cut weight, aluminum seat frame, jack etc. Yep, it did have an armrest.
    Great review, would love to own this car. Update, purchased a Core 2/23 for $40.5K. Aftermarket armrest $120, easy install.

    • @LateNightDateNight
      @LateNightDateNight Год назад

      How are you enjoying it?

    • @stevethomas760
      @stevethomas760 Год назад +1

      @@LateNightDateNight I like the size, awd and the angry 3 cylinder. It's a good car priced in the 40s. For me it's not 50K car at any trim level. A local Toyota tech just picked up a Circuit at +5K and he's a happy guy. I own a '91 NSX. The original owner paid 20K over MSRP, 83K. A lot of money now a boatload in '91. Sorry, a little venting.

  • @lllll981
    @lllll981 2 года назад +21

    Too bad dealerships are gonna be marking these things up to a ridiculous amount because I would be hard pressed to get one. Also as a Veloster N owner it does have a dedicated rev match button on the steering wheel to turn it on or off. Unfortunately you can't use it when in the custom setting as it wants you to go through the menu at that point.

    • @LogicalQ
      @LogicalQ 2 года назад +1

      As a WRX owner, I also find myself in the “want but can’t justify with the ADM” category.

  • @NoBaconForYou
    @NoBaconForYou Год назад +1

    You had me at left foot braking. I used to slide my Accord 6-6 all around every single time the roads were remotely wet

  • @JBWGuitarChannel
    @JBWGuitarChannel 2 года назад +8

    Great video and looks like a fantastic car. However the price of this and the rival hot hatches is becoming so high with ADM it puts them into the same bracket as used sports cars like the 997, M3, corvette etc. Which makes it kind of a hard argument especially when you know the dealer is probably going to pocket $10-15k.

    • @danielgladston1785
      @danielgladston1785 2 года назад +2

      It's infuriating for sure, but we just have to be patient. Just like these guys mentioned, I wouldn't pay anything more than $2-2,500k over sticker. Eventually, they will be sitting on dealer lots and at the end of the day, dealers want to move product.

    • @autofocuscarsvids719
      @autofocuscarsvids719 2 года назад

      @@danielgladston1785 I think you're both right. I'm looking at it to ease the load of my daily, a Boxster S. But if it gets too expensive, I could always just get a GT350 or a Cayman S. I've seen dealers advertise $4,500 over sticker in the Facebook groups, so I am hopeful that I can pay a bit over sticker, leapfrog those who won't but still not really over pay for the car. 😬

    • @shaft9000
      @shaft9000 2 года назад

      The new-car warranty and reduced running costs of a Japanese car are about the only advantage over buying a used Porsche these days. Not so sure that the GR parts will be much cheaper, though. Labor for sure.

    • @danielgladston1785
      @danielgladston1785 2 года назад

      @@autofocuscarsvids719 yeah it's just a waiting game. Right now, dealers are doing their best impressions of BaT and essentially auctioning cars off to the highest bidder. It's idiotic. I had a pending deal for $2,500 over sticker (purchase agreement signed) and just the other day my dealer called and told me someone was willing to pay $8.5k over and had the audacity to ask me if I would pay $10k over. I told them they'd have my business if/when they could honor the original deal.
      For me, this will be my only car so it needs to be able to reasonably handle daily duties. Although used Porsches and Mustangs are awesome, they make more sense as a second car.

    • @danielgladston1785
      @danielgladston1785 2 года назад

      @@shaft9000 I think there's a lot more than that. Depends on if you need the extra practicality. Also depends where you live. I wouldn't want an older Porsche as my only car. Thing is going to be an endless money pit. The higher running costs can't be stressed enough. It's a massive difference in both parts and labor.

  • @mdsveda
    @mdsveda 2 года назад +109

    Too bad they will be so marked up and scooped up by millionaire collectors

    • @tlrprice7
      @tlrprice7 2 года назад +26

      And RUclipsrs

    • @EJleon96
      @EJleon96 2 года назад +23

      @@tlrprice7 lots of stupid RUclipsrs driving the hype and making them less attainable to the true enthusiasts.

    • @tlrprice7
      @tlrprice7 2 года назад +3

      No offense @thesmokingtire, y’all are just doing your job lol!

    • @MF_Henri
      @MF_Henri 2 года назад

      *in the US. In Europe we just dont get enough of them lol

    • @gearheadgaming1537
      @gearheadgaming1537 2 года назад +1

      @@EJleon96you realize there are like

  • @mabolzichjjl
    @mabolzichjjl 2 года назад +1

    I'm pretty sure the regular manual Corolla has an armrest. What gives with the GR?

  • @Audfile
    @Audfile 2 года назад +3

    20 years? My 2006 XRS is pretty damn good. Ferocious little car.

    • @justinbeamon6624
      @justinbeamon6624 2 года назад

      Those are good cars, but far from the best Toyota of that time. Still an economy car that was an entire universe below the VW Jetta and didn't compete with anything in terms of performance. Mazda 3, Jetta, etc were all far more sporty and fun.

    • @483SGT
      @483SGT 2 года назад

      Considering this is better than the XRS... Yes still applies. They didn't say only good Toyota in 20 years

  • @andydufresne8034
    @andydufresne8034 2 года назад +2

    I'm a fanboy and coupe guy and wanted to like the GR86 so much but I've heard bad things about that Subaru engine, meanwhile this Toyota three cylinder has proven itself stout. I've come to appreciate the Supra for bringing out the best in BMW. But I just love that this thing is pure Toyota, and built in that special factory to boot. I watch a Toyota mechanic channel called carcarenut and he says give Toyota the first six months of production to kaizen a new car and work out the bugs and it should be safe to buy after that. I hope to have the money in time for a late 23 or early 24. This is the Toyota for me. I hope to be parking it next to an RC-F.

    • @logicturtle9838
      @logicturtle9838 2 года назад +2

      I've had a 2014 BRZ since new. No mechanical issues whatsoever.

  • @Polyvalent
    @Polyvalent 2 года назад +4

    I'll gladly pick up one of these secondhand with 70-80k on it and hopefully itll have depreciated to an affordable price.

  • @feelgoodhorizon4084
    @feelgoodhorizon4084 2 года назад +3

    foot tilt is common in japanese drivers. also they really like left foot braking due to their tight tracks, thats my guess why it brake is closer to the clutch so you can quickly go from clutch to brake.

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr Год назад +1

      also growing up in that region/era of driving its a byproduct of gokart racing, or racing FF where left foot breaking is even more of a commonplace of generating a specific right foot/throttle style as well. A lot of racers that grew to be famous had to come up the ranks/classes and they were able to implement a wide variety of skills/techniques from car/class to class. Which definitely comes into play on a boosted awd vehicle and trying to go full out. Youll come to notice a lot more of these skills/instincts on these GR corolla vids bc so many drivers/pros havent even driven it before and are implementing their full "ability" to familiarize themselves with the cars full extent/capability. almost like a habit/comfort zone of operation.

  • @MrBetaKiller100
    @MrBetaKiller100 9 месяцев назад

    I picked up a Blue Flame GRC this past weekend out of state, 4.5 hours away. Paid 2.5k markup (Could've been waved if I traded in, but I don't think that's worth it). I have been searching since November, and had the oppurtunity. I could not say no. 100% worth that markup to me. Amazing car, and the Blue Flame absolutely pops. I'm still going easy on it for the break-in but I cannot wait to open it up.

  • @300zxdriver
    @300zxdriver 9 месяцев назад +2

    Bought mine for MSRP premium.

  • @Toyota4Life
    @Toyota4Life 2 года назад +4

    I hate the shock factor that people do acting like Toyota hasn’t done something like this before

    • @PigglyWigglyDeluxe
      @PigglyWigglyDeluxe 2 года назад

      I mean… not recently. It all started with the FRS. The FRS was the first actual fun car since the MR2, that’s a huge gap.

  • @DevinWiles
    @DevinWiles 2 года назад

    All production is spoken for already in Canada. Just can't get 'em, my dealer contact said it was done on day one.

  • @jbrandon302
    @jbrandon302 2 года назад +2

    you guys forgot to compare to the Focus RS. One more cylinder and possibly a better awd system… also at this pric couldn’t you pick up a true dedicated sports car? Camaro, used corvette, used m3 etc

    • @binskee677
      @binskee677 2 года назад +1

      M cars are not true dedicated sports cars, i had a M2Competiton for two years and before that the M140i with the B58 engine, drove it on track and on road-trips. Those cars are sporty road cars with a big engine and a little bit stiffening, they are fast in a straight line and fun to drift but i wouldn‘t describe it as a focused sports car. I also was able drive the M8 Competition and the old M4competition on the Hockenheimring and the M8 is even worse on a Track, the old M4 is actually fun and the best of the pack. The new M4/M3 feels also very heavy but they hiding it very well. I have a GR Yaris now and it feels much more focused, the chassis has so much feedback and my M2c would not keep up on a twisty mountain road and most of that comes down to weight. Honestly i don‘t know how the corolla will feel and will never drive one (snd would not buy one for that mark up) but the Yaris is definitely a much more sporty, purpose built chassis, drive train and suspension is extremely good for a OEM (something inreally didn‘t like in the M2) and power really becomes secondary in the toyota. But that power is actually usable. it‘s a whole other experience than driving a M car, it‘s certainly much more challenging and technical and definitely not made for being fast in a straight line

  • @mcguffey18
    @mcguffey18 2 года назад

    Pedal spacing aside, how’s the driving position as a taller guy? Seat height, steering wheel reach, thigh support, etc

  • @georgef1176
    @georgef1176 2 года назад +1

    I absolutely love the gr corrola!! It’s mean looking. I’m definitely getting one.

  • @EliB0217
    @EliB0217 2 года назад

    Its been while since I watched TST, nice to see Matt. Kinda stopped watching it when he stopped being the main face. Don't know when or how long he has been back, but good to see ya here again

  • @kylem324
    @kylem324 2 года назад +1

    Does this have adaptive cruise? I thought Toyota excluded that from their manual transmission cars.

    • @mattyoz0
      @mattyoz0 2 года назад +2

      My yaris has it.

    • @binskee677
      @binskee677 2 года назад +1

      My yaris has it too

  • @evanryan120
    @evanryan120 2 года назад +7

    One of the best episodes yet. Thank you for your hard work, guys!

  • @yeasonyea1
    @yeasonyea1 2 года назад +1

    Toyota doesn’t always make inspiring cars but dam when they get it right they really do get it right

  • @andystevens7557
    @andystevens7557 Год назад

    I love that there was a Shelby rental having fun there too.
    Thank you for the video

  • @chucksimonds5164
    @chucksimonds5164 11 месяцев назад

    Absolutely correct! I knew within a minute of driving a GR that I was going to buy one and that was right after driving an Elantra N and owning a Type R.

  • @andrewhurstcars
    @andrewhurstcars 2 года назад +3

    A shame they don’t sell this Corolla is markets where they have already sold the Yaris GR.

  • @aluisious
    @aluisious Год назад +1

    I think the Circuit is overblown. Better to get a Core with the performance pack for the LSDs. Don't need anything else.

  • @CRatcliffe
    @CRatcliffe 2 года назад +2

    This makes me happy I’m getting more core with all the packages for only 2500 ADM 😂

  • @sebbebo
    @sebbebo 2 года назад

    did you turn the esc completely off? if you put it in track or sport and then press esc, press esc again and hold it in untill the expert dissaperes in front of the sport or track. from a gr yaris owner

  • @Karto86
    @Karto86 2 года назад +1

    I can confirm that the PS4/PS5 are absolutely fantastic as a all rounder performance tires :)

  • @mogulmayhem
    @mogulmayhem Год назад +1

    I almost reserved one of these locally, but a dude jumped the line when he traded in his 2022 BMW M3 in for one. It had 3500 miles. WTF.

  • @deancostello14
    @deancostello14 2 года назад +3

    As a European I’m slightly frustrated we don’t get this. I love the idea of the Yaris, but I have a kid and this thing would be perfect. Have a feeling my partner wouldn’t be very happy if I brought a Yaris home and she seen how small it was inside.

    • @jtouli6748
      @jtouli6748 2 года назад

      Yaris has 4 seats bro, kid up front stick her in the back of needs be. 🤣

    • @binskee677
      @binskee677 2 года назад +2

      I have a Yaris and it‘s very practical but you‘re correct for a family it would not be adequate

  • @bodenwhitmore7699
    @bodenwhitmore7699 2 года назад +1

    I’ve got a regular corolla hatchback and I do like it, but this, man I want this car but I fear dealers and their markups will kill it

  • @Norcalmotormedia
    @Norcalmotormedia 2 года назад

    Thank you Toyota for this masterpiece and your quality behind it

  • @dednside5229
    @dednside5229 2 года назад +1

    I love the $6800 dealer markup . That makes you start looking at used M2 Bmw's . Remember when buying a new car was fun?

  • @montysport94
    @montysport94 Год назад

    There’s one at my local dealer for MSRP no add ons, and I can’t decide if I want to trade my 23 Challenger RT 6 speed for it or not. I like both cars, despite them built for completely different things.

  • @LinhNguyen-nq5di
    @LinhNguyen-nq5di 7 месяцев назад

    Great review and video!!! What road is that? Thanks!

  • @terryg1575
    @terryg1575 2 года назад +1

    Yes, probably the best new Toyota for 20 years for the USA but not other parts of the world that are blessed with the mighty GR Yaris

  • @StudlySoldier
    @StudlySoldier 2 года назад +5

    "An arm rest would be nice"
    *immediately tries to rest his elbow on the non existent armrest

    • @tinhinnh
      @tinhinnh 2 года назад

      prob no room for both armrest and handbrake

    • @StudlySoldier
      @StudlySoldier 2 года назад

      @@tinhinnh if a miata can fit both, there's really no excuse

    • @tinhinnh
      @tinhinnh 2 года назад

      @@StudlySoldier serious sports car dont have armrest

  • @JaredR1996
    @JaredR1996 2 года назад +4

    All I can think about when new cars come out are markups. It keeps the average car enthusiast from buying a car they might like. I would love a stick shift Supra or Mustang but the price hike keeps me away from them

    • @Agent00J
      @Agent00J 2 года назад +2

      Same here! It's so sad that the cars supposedly built for the average enthusiasts aren't actually affordable for most of those very same people.
      I'm happy these types of vehicles still exist... but if we can't afford them, what's the point?! 😐

    • @JaredR1996
      @JaredR1996 2 года назад

      @@Agent00J yep. Idk what the solution is

  • @Boostedbeard
    @Boostedbeard 2 года назад

    Crazy to think in 2015 a STi was 35k ish and here we are 2023 with the year of N's, Type R etc.

  • @DadandDaughterAccount
    @DadandDaughterAccount 2 года назад +1

    I waited for a long while for a GR, but I saved a few bucks getting a super low mile golf r 7.5 🤷🏻‍♂️. For a little under 10g less before ADM, I just feel like it’s a much better deal for a fun car. If both were the same amount, I would have grabbed a Corolla for sure.

  • @avery4528
    @avery4528 2 года назад

    Hmmm how much would you pay for a Core that is optioned with the performance package? Besides the carbon fiber roof there isn’t much difference between the two.

  • @curtfox91
    @curtfox91 2 года назад +1

    Why do i feel like they didn't go in depth about the cars driving dynamics. like they said its good and nice but missed alot of things to talk about like the powerband ,the feel of the different bias on the road compared to the track. this car needs a real in depth video on the driving experience it has alot going on character wise.

  • @TheLoopmeister
    @TheLoopmeister 2 года назад +1

    Wow Matt looking massive in the car

  • @caseymurray7722
    @caseymurray7722 Год назад

    I can really see how this is rally inspired with how it drives. It doesn't easily oversteer on pavement to keep max grip but it will oversteer on dirt. I'm really glad this came out since the wrx and focus rs are both dead and the golf r isn't as raw of an experience.

  • @tareqjawdat6401
    @tareqjawdat6401 22 дня назад

    I just got an accident GR Morizo! Will work on restoring it soon

  • @SimeonToko
    @SimeonToko 2 года назад +2

    I'm sure someone is 3d printing an aftermarket armrest as we type

  • @Guythatlivesaquietlife
    @Guythatlivesaquietlife 2 года назад +1

    Why do all of the hot hatches names ends with R ?

  • @jamesmedina2062
    @jamesmedina2062 2 года назад

    Matt 8,000 feet is altitude to me . 4000 feet is something but base elevation here in El Paso. High compression engines with boost do better up at 8000+feet

  • @Swish165
    @Swish165 10 месяцев назад

    I got to ask, at location did you guys go driving in? Kind of interested as I'd like to go there one day to go driving...

  • @shaned1500
    @shaned1500 Год назад

    love the video and the car
    however rev matching is on the steering wheel in the veloster and it doesnt default to on unless in n mode

  • @airkrd
    @airkrd 11 месяцев назад

    Ok I don’t feel bad, I just ordered one with a $1100 market adjustment. The first dealer I went to wanted $15k, the second wanted $5k. Third time was a charm.

  • @decaygrim8943
    @decaygrim8943 2 года назад +1

    Yo no fucking way! I never expected to see the GR on a test drive. Thank you for this.

  • @Kraize92
    @Kraize92 2 года назад

    Did the Morizo beat you up more than the new CTR in R+?

  • @d_charles
    @d_charles 2 года назад +9

    Full marks for passing the cyclist slowly and with space (written as a driving enthusiast and cyclist)

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the viddy, guys
    c'mon Zack..."CTR"??
    "Civic R" is the same # of syllables and won't be confused with other makes and models.

  • @wildzach
    @wildzach 2 года назад

    Correction: auto rev matching is a physical button in the Veloster N, on the steering wheel. It does default to ON in N Mode though which is annoying.

  • @SteezyG
    @SteezyG 2 года назад

    Come over to Europe or more specifically, the UK and get the old fella Mr Harris to hook you up with a GR Yaris. If you get a Lichfield one then ooohhhh boy would you love the position of the seat over the regular one and the extra power....

  • @maniakmania2810
    @maniakmania2810 2 года назад

    wouldn't denser air in higher altitude be beneficial for power?

    • @beeess2414
      @beeess2414 2 года назад +1

      Higher altitude has thinner air

  • @ericn3221
    @ericn3221 5 месяцев назад +1

    The automotive journalist love to talk about how they always turn rev match off when in reality no one is better than a computer and its one less thing to think about.

  • @Jonathan_Doe_
    @Jonathan_Doe_ 2 года назад +2

    Seeing Matt in the Corolla, I understand why Toyota aren’t sending the GR Yaris stateside now 😂

    • @tinhinnh
      @tinhinnh 2 года назад

      same seats tho

    • @Jonathan_Doe_
      @Jonathan_Doe_ 2 года назад

      @@tinhinnh Yeah but the distance between them/to the doors is smaller in the Yaris