@@jimmylittle9393 I disagree. While they may have failed at marketing and there are improvements to be made, the product itself is great with tons of potential. Have you tried it Jimmy?
It's nothing short of sad to see so many wonderful creations be shoved to the side. Dreams is astonishing I can't explain how I feel when I play some of these passionate games that we the gamers have created. I just want to say if you have created something in dreams and you gave it your all no matter how big or small I personally appreciate your work and so do other gamers so please don't give up on your creations don't give up on dreams.
Dreams as a concept is outstanding, and truly one of a kind; A open game creation software with every tool in one place to make...anything! Dreams is suffering though, From playstation never advertising it to No solid dates on any new features from MM. From the players side (I have put hundreds of hours into dreams) you have unlimited options to build whatever you want, its great! A issue though is lack of attention from playstation and MM in some ways, which leaving very little playerbase growth, and making fewer and fewer players as a whole. Less players=less shared content=less seen content. And from there bored players to less players, now that 80+ hour game you have been working on only 5 people get to see it. That hurts. Overall its amazing, one of my favorite games on PS, but Dreams is suffering :/
Media Mole have said there are updates and features which will increase activity and the player count, just unclear how far off these are. I’d love to see a clear roadmap graphic planned out for the year which will give people things to look forward to and more time for plan for events
This is definitely something I wish I had mentioned in the video as well. Apathy is another HUGE problem for Dreams. Outside of Dreams communities when Dreams is mentioned I see a few people putting the respect on its name it deserves, most being negative. But you’re right...more often than not, nothing at all.
I agree with this. When I posted a thread about Dreamscom on ResetERA, I got 1 reply. My weekly best Dreams Creations OT hardly gets any replies, though people have expressed their thanks to me for the curation efforts. Speaking of which, do you want me to share this video on ERA @Ugly Sofa Gaming? I vividly remember how the two of us had to defend Dreams in that Kotaku article thread. It was literally bonkers. I have something else to add: I believe the curation around the launch of Dreams was not good enough. As a result, many people had already left Dreams behind before the good stuff got properly highlighted. That’s something which they cannot correct now. I do think a PS Now or PS Plus addition is in the cards at some point for Dreams. When they do that, they should be ready, and I believe they will be.
@@UglySofaGaming Ha, you bet I will. Have hardly seen any Dreamers on that board btw. Always surprises me that Dreamers also seemingly like to stay within the bubble
We had some in the OT at the start but sadly there are just better places to show off work and talk about Dreams. I am always genuinely surprised the reception isn’t better on Era
I would love to be extremely positive about dreams, but for me it just feels like theres nothing to gain for working on a full game like I have. There isnt many people out there who can see my creation. making it feel like all my hard work will simply get buried within thousands of creations. I love dreams as a creation tool, but wish my creations and all my hours of hard work would be mine. At times I feel like a free worker going through all the stress to end up with nothing. Ive worked on a game for 2 years and will have nothing to show for the 1000s of hours spent creating a hole game. I came into to this not knowing how far I'd take it. Little did I know I was hitting the 2 year mark. Dreams has so much potential but very little reward for the creators.
A game like this shouldn't have been an exclusive Playstation title. If it was cross-platform the player base would be way bigger.. I'm also sure that's why there's no "export feature". The concept of this is great and I hope stuff like this gets made more.
Remember it took 8 years to get it out the door 😆 Mm have always been “we’d love to but it’s tricky” when it comes to exporting so I understand your doubt I just live in hope!
Core, the UGC creation engine built on top of Unreal Engine, has player tournaments with cash prizes, as they have a similar lack of players. But then again, they have online multi. I think releasing without online multi was a big mistake. Online multi is a HUGE source of players, and Dreams is basically 10,000 single player games in various stages of completion.
Someone asked me the other day what more marketing could Sony have done...and I was like, pony up a prize fund for a creation competition. Could have been huge when Dreams was at its peak
@@UglySofaGaming Yeah, that too. Core has gamejams with cash prizes(usually $5-10,000 each jam), and they have a creation invitational with a prize pool of something like $200,000.
Project Genesis had a horror game jam some the best horror games came from it and it was only a 1000$ split from the top 3 winners I can't imagine it on a bigger scale.
Nicely put together. Dreams has some amazing content, some fun content and a lot that isnt. The trick is to find a curator you trust who puts up regular collections so you can find the cream. What curators need to do is find each other because we are all pretty invisible on our own. The Tenia has got the keys to the castle so he's fine, and he gets to put out his choice in MM picks and playlists, but it is really hard to get noticed with collections as a normal Dreamer. Maybe we need to start promoting the collectors as well as the Dreams. Any suggestions on who to look for?
I think an important part is to go beyond the comfort zone and into the broader gaming communities like Reddit, ResetERA with the content. It can hurt because (as UglySofaGaming said) there are a lot of terrible internet gamers out there, but you just gotta be thick about it. For my part I did post his video to ResetERA, as I do with other curators stuff. The stuff at least needs to be out there. How it gets the attention it deserves is a whole different story though, and I have not found an answer to this problem yet.
Thank you for the nice comment! Curation and collections are in desperate need of an overhaul, they just lack any sort pf discoverability. I think it’s up to MM and a lot of gains could be got from it
@@UglySofaGaming Music really suffers too. There is not enough spotlight on Music creators. So hard to find good musicians to collaborate on that has a style i'm looking for.
I picked up dreams on PS4 a few days ago on a whim knowing almost nothing about it other than people made funny memes with it and a game here and there like a year ago (heck, even when Dreams was announced at E3 it wasn't exactly clear _what_ the game truly was so I kinda skipped over it, sony didn't exactly do the best job of marketing it) and I think it's easily the best thing I own on the platform to be quite frank. Feels like the return of Macromedia Flash/Newgrounds to me in a good way, and the combined value of that dwarfs any AAA game to me. I feel awful for sleeping on it. However, I would really like to see a PC release on steam down the line, so I can start creating and playing stuff in VR and share them with playstation players, as I already own and enjoy a Valve Index and think buying a PSVR just for dreams and astro bot rescue mission is a big redundant expense since that's all I'd use a PSVR for. I hear that the creation tools are vastly more user friendly if you have 2 move controllers and I can definitely see how that would be the case as it'd be less like fiddling with a jittery gyro mouse and more like playing with legos. The gyro controller is fantastic for menu navigation but far too unstable for *comfortable* creation in my opinion, I'm actually quite impressed at the stuff that's being made considering that limitation, especially stuff like Noguchi's Bell. Sure you can fix a lot of stuff by using Keyframes for animation which can smooth out that jitter for you, but the workflow is inefficient with a controller in my opinion. I also played a game called "*lash" that was stunning to look at but made my PS4 Pro cry as it struggled to render all of the beautiful foilage. The actual tools themselves and the tutorials for them though? mwah, chef's kiss of excellence. I genuinely think that people _could_ make "AAA quality" games with dreams given the right amount of time and collaboration, because I see the potential in the toolkit. Even the limitations themselves can be broken by splitting up the creation into several scenes that load into each other, and they load *surprisingly fast* which is a thing I think is super impressive under the hood type stuff you wouldn't see many talk about. Can only imagine it would be instant on PC or PS5.
Welcome to Dreams and our channel WMan! I love the comparison to Newground I saw someone trying to diss Dreams the other day as saying half of the games are no better than the old free browser games, some of those games were awesome!
@@MrMOGHammer Yes, but I would LIKE to use VR so I get a true 6DOF camera with depth perception. Also, I do not have move controllers for my PS4, only my PS3, and I don't know where those went.
Literal game changer. Would change our channel completely. It’d be so different it’d hard to imagine it happening in the current version of Dreams I’ve always seen a feature like that included on something like a pro version of Dreams
I have owned Dreams for a while and never felt I was progressing in my creative ability but since the LBP servers were disabled I have spent more time on the game again and it reminded me of why I used to be so excited about the game. Now that I’ve spent time on the game though I have finally felt that I am getting better with it (though I still don’t think I’m that good). Your video review of dreams though is a near perfect summary of how I’ve been viewing the Dreams community!!
In comparison to my time with LBP, Dreams is extremely complex and requires a lot of effort for very little reward. I would might as well just learn computer programming and create a game for scratch for profit. Also, not many people play Dreams so who knows if your efforts will go unnoticed. LBP levels were just so fun and easy to create that required minimal time and effort
I do disagree myself JJ. The barrier to creation in LBP was lower but the range was much, much more limited. You could easily make an OK side-scrolling platformer - but again to make anything truly worth someone else's time you have to dig into the complicated logic systems, learn some game design etc. Ultimately (personally speaking) I never spent much time playing community creations in LBP despite owning all three games. Levels were frustratingly slow to load into, and the game was filled with just as much jank and rubbish as Dreams. As a player I've found Dreams to be infinitely more rewarding and I feel much more confident recommending Dreams rather than LBP to someone who wants to play rather than create. The idea that one should learn computer programming rather than create in Dreams is based on the assumption that the only reason to create is based on either monetary incentive or professional development. I wouldn't recommenced Dreams to someone based on these assumptions. People that ARE using Dreams for those things are doing it on the hope the Dreams platform may one day offer monetisation/exporting and while I think it is likely (one day) there's zero guarantee. There are unarguably better options for these people. But that's not the point of (this current) version of Dreams. Dreams is a casual creations tool, meant to be messy and abstract and collaborative and fun. It's designed to scratch a creative itch, not to make you money or help get you a coding job.
Wouldn't it be interesting, if Sony let they're in-house studios make little projects and games, that are exclusive for Dreams. This will attract many new players.
Great video! I’m relatively new to DREAMS, having had no real success creating anything for the first year or more. I couldn’t even tell at the beginning if I’d be able to make anything of value, so it was a bit of a leap of hope to keep coming back to it every few months. I finally pushed through the (sometimes frustrating) sculpting tutorials far enough to make encouraging progress around Xmas 2021, and it quickly ballooned into much much more than just sculpting for me. So… I’m in the smallest DREAMS pool of all: VR. As a gamer I have no interest in non-VR content, but I like that many DREAMS creations can be enjoyed with some level of VR immersion, albeit limited. Since gaining traction figuring out how to sculpt, I’ve learned that the real VR capabilities of DREAMS have almost not been touched by anyone else. When searching exhaustively for obvious things like “VR PADDLEBALL” or “VR GOLF” - anything that uses the simple dynamic of reaching out with a tool to touch something else in the environment , I’ve come across approximately three creations by others, and none of them are any fun. It’s what led me to my first public share: “ICE Realm VR” a place I created as part of my own learning process, so it’s an odd mishmash of things… but, I think it showcases something fundamental that I wish others were aware of and implementing in their own experiences. It’s quite easy to almost instantly begin physics-based, first person game creation since no animated, pre-programmed, logic-filled, action is required when the player is already existing within the game physically. Anyways, I’m now on a mission to learn everything I can, and figure out ways to show other people the squandered power of DREAMS for VR. I feel strongly that it shouldn’t simply be the single-most popular game for VR enthusiasts… it should be a PSVR system-seller, as there is no direct comparison in ALL of VR. There aren’t any good templates for the VR in DREAMS, so I’m hoping to act as an ambassador, possibly with some instructional introductory videos, or even a handy usable starter kit.
I originally wanted to try and create a unique original 3D platform game, but the thermometer fills up too fast. The thermometer is a real turn-off that limits what I originally intended/imagined for a 3D platform game that I really wanted to create.
Without clever optimising it really does - I wonder how much a PC or PS5 version could boost things if they took the shackles off. As it is you just have to make smart choices and compromises
We wanted to feature a taste of some of Dreams finest and Splatty certainly is that! I still haven’t seen all the updates you’ve been made but was so impressed since the last time I played, the feeling of nostalgia for PS1 platformers hits you like a brick wall so many people fail to capture that magic on Dreams but I think you guys got it :)
@@UglySofaGaming I do recommend playing through all the content we have now it’s around 3-4 hours, you should stop and look around the amount of details we put in, for example in the bed room try changing the color of your characters outfit and you will see the magic :)
Maybe they could make it free for PS Now or the monthly free games. They could've made it come with the PS5 as well, usually those three ways get a game noticed by a whole lot.
i feel like if this game had multiplayer similar to lbp the game would be a lot better because most of my memories on lbp were diving in and playing with random people
same I love creating in VR in dreams and the music studio is awesome. I mean not just for games....feels like a playstation of FL studios..I can even use a midi keyboard for it
I remember seeing Dreams for the first time. I was concerned, like yeah you can do this but can you do that? I kept my expectations both high and low and they got surpassed by the community and every update is welcome with open hands, even if they are slow. I was just looking for creations to show some Dreams gameplay. A lot of them were like "Wow I wanna play this more". I will be forever sad that it's not as popular as I'd like it but I will love Dreams.
Haven't got to play Dreams yet but it was great to see that it has even greater potential than I thought and I was even going to try making a full demo game on it way before trying to make a whole individual game series.
Best to start small definitely. So many people jump straight into a massive game and quit. I’m making a 30-60 minute game in my spare time and I’ve set very realistic goals and it’s still going to take me ages.
Dreams is fucking awesome, that said it will never be worth wasting your time creating content until we can exort models, sound etc and monetize our creations. I had big dreams for dreams but after hundreds of hours I know realize its a waste of time to make my creation in dreams, despite the awesome tools. I cant market my creation, I cant make any money, people on other systems or without dreams can never see/play it....when they fix this I will come back.
I don't think Media Molecule made Dreams just so people can profit. I believe Dreams is supposed to be fun and a game where you create whatever you want and share with the community. If you're looking for money you might have to go to Unity or Unreal, but it's probably much harder to use than Dreams.
@@spencer5372 Ya. Media Molecules mission was never going to work as you can't use it to make something else for profit in most ways other engines allow for! What a waste and the community refuses to understand that. It could create so many jobs
I really dont undestand Sony. Im a gamer on Dreams not a creator, but i see the potential of Dreams. If the future is the metaverse then sony its not seeing things like Dreams are the future, this is like playstation home all over again. Dreams could be a platform like RUclips, but it needs monetization like patreon or crowd founding, they can make money charging a porcentage. The game should be free, at least at ps plus to encreased the player based. Multiplayer will be a great addition.
We need more players!! And MM needs to put in some effort to curate. If I type in "water" for sound effects, I shouldn't have to scroll through dozens of clips that are: screaming, song rip offs, sheer nonsense, broken and poor quality clips... We should AT THE VERY LEAST be able to flag assets which are incorrectly categorized for MM to fix. Why is some of this junk being made public and not private. There is so much CRAP on dreams these days. People seem to just abuse it for making meme content and anyone actually wanting to create have to wade through the ever growing nonsense. HOW do we still not have multiplayer? Why is all the most interesting stuff found via Reddit and MM only spotlights the same stuff/creators all the time? THE BEST thing MM could do, which they said was the long game for Dreams (but they seem to have abandoned all goals with Dreams) was allow creators to sell, export, etc. beyond dreams. They should partner with the PSstore so creators can sell their "Dream" directly on the PSstore which would download some kind of backdoor version of Dreams. This would put it in line with things like Steam. A monetary value, even if selling the "dream"/game for $1 would reward and put pressure on good content. IT ALSO gets people playing dreams without committing to the whole game. It's win-win. So much wasted potential here. MM is driving me nuts.
Creators will do their own work and advertise their dream/game if it's available on PSstore for ANYONE, not just those with dreams, which would help the huge advertising issue which MM and PS haven't been doing a good job of. It then advertises Dreams as MANY things, not one singular thing, which is exactly what it is. I wish I had a direct line to MM...
Some very valid comments and suggestions. Interestingly in their own way looks like Mm will be looking into the assets they announced yesterday Dreams shaping page is going to be transformed and have more citation
I really want to create something but controling with Dualshock without keyboard and mouse is awful. And i don't have much time to search in pile of shit to find something to play
Thanks for your nice videos. You know, just by way of helping outsiders who want to get into playing Dreams (as opposed to just creating), I suggest making a video advertising the Dreamers who do content curation. I spend most of my time creating, but personally I felt like after following Dreamers like The Tenia, Ladylex, and OcularFixation it became a lot easier to enjoy playing too. It's nice to be able to pick games by genre or release period. Cheers!
Thank you for the lovely comment unrulycat! Sometimes it’s hard enough getting people to watch content made about original, I think a video on curation lacks mass appeal (unfortunately!). Media Molecule need to step their game up when it comes to curation. They’re new team members are putting in the work but collection in Dreams are disgustingly undiscoverable.
@@UglySofaGaming Thanks, that's awesome to hear. I have a few work in progress games going on right now, none of them quite as big as Happy Jack but hopefully still fun to play through.
To be fair that is consistent, if we’re talking about player online at any given moment. It’s been 1000+ mostly in 2021 - but this time last year it was frequently dipping into less than a 1000 so it has grown a bit. MM vaguely said there will be big drops which naturally increase in the activity again, I’m guessing multiplayer and hopefully other stuff so I don’t think they’re overly concerned as long as things are still being consistently made which they are tbf
Media molecule should not be suprised that most people are not artistic professional game developers..... If thats all they leaning to is community creations.. they will decline. The only thing that can help is if they, themselfs upload a professional made lengthly stage perhaps once a month, with added materials, stickers, characters etc like in little big planet.. to keep people coming back.
Avatar Four Seasons That is the reason I want Dreams to stick around, one of the reasons I want to get a ps5 is just to play Dreams and see creations like this come to fruition
I don't think the name 'Dreams' helps it either. It's a bit off-putting when I mention it to dudes, but then when I call it an "3D engine" the reaction swiftly changes. "Dreams" as a name is not very...I dunno...macho. "Dreams Engine", maybe?
Ikr. The game's concept and design direction are at a conflict; the menu, music, and art direction is directed at little kids while the tools have potential to make some very advanced stuff. If the game had a minimalistic and streamlined user interface and they removed the "imps", people would take it more seriously, also a filter to filter out all the dumb crap that gets published in the game. But I get it, the same way Little Big Planet made me passionate about creating stuff, they want to make it possible for a new generation of kids to experience the same thing. I still think the UI needs an overhaul because I don't think even kids like it, it's just not as compelling as LBP was. Honestly I hope someone takes the idea of Dreams and makes a better, free to play game for PC. only then we will see the full potential of what Dreams could have been.
Underrated comment. I don’t think the branding has been great since day one. PS5 version would be a great chance to update it, Dreams is a terrible word for seo I think
Yeah LBP was firmly aimed at a younger audience, I wish Dreams had gone older. It seems to lack the mass appeal and older creators can be off put or limited
I think there’s still room for the best creators to grow (especially if they do do a PS5 upgrade) but I’m of the opinion the content available today makes the cheap price of Dream instantly worth it. It’s really such a steal. Things are going to get even better but the outside game communities need to believe and engage
I just recently got a PS4 and found dreams in a retro game shop I've always wanted to try my hand at game creation, it'll definitely take some time to get use to how the game handles. From what I've seen out of dreams already is nothing short of amazing
Great video, very well put together with all the editing and subjects. Glad it sparked a lively discussion. Thank you, thank you to others who help the community and also initiative discussions, such as LadylexUK and Intrattackout.
I pretty much agree with everything in this video, I think for the long-term there's gotta be a way to sell creations hopefully game and 3d model export, the reason roblox and minecraft are so big is multiplayer, creation and the fact there's money to be made.
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I've spent thousand+ hours in creating and as unique of an experience it is and probably revolutionizing the way games can be made, I have to say it's kinda reaping from it's own failures. -I didn't realize I'd type this much and realized it looks like a tangent but they're there to add weight to my points.- 1) Accessibility has been mentioned a bit in the comments, but MM's obsession with motion controls being the only way to truely make dreams was a huge turn off for those who knew what dreams was about. (Have they not learned from the hate nintendo gets?) Anything you can do with the controller or motion+ can be done much easier/effectively with mouse and keyboard support, except maybe sculpting with motion+ but that's a niche point as not everyone (very few percentage) is use to sculpting on a professional level to take advantage of it's potential. The friend who told me about dreams quit after a month because he couldn't stand the motion controls, it's apathetic to say that people who don't like motion controls are being ignorant or should just get use to it everyone is wired differently. 2) Tutorials are terrible, I'm not sure why MM hasn't comeback to the tutorials (maybe they have simce i last played) or thought the ones added were good enough, lbp2 tutorials were great, explained what you needed to know for each gadget and you go at your own pace. Dreams tutorials teach like their demographic a bunch of toddlers, which wouldnt be the worst if they proceeded to make more in-depth tutorials to follow up to let it all sink. Some of 5he most useful gadgets are never adressed and the tutorial s barely dive into the new concepts that dreams introduces with what makes it so good. 'Oh heres a box with a box in a box with a hat in it good luck LUL.' arguments could be made that it's up to the olayer to learn if they want to imorove but when the tutorial says "goodjob you learned the basics of making a puppet" it implies you learne dwhat you needed when you actually just missed how significant groups in drems are. The lack of online documentation on top of the vauge tutorials leaves the player completely lost. The least they could have done was have a wall of text that explains what every gadget does and what quirks make it unique. If you try to look up everything a signal manipulator does you only get a quarter of what it's uses are. It seems the goal was not to overload the player with information but by doing so they left them unprepared and feeling left out. 3) The bugs and backtracking. Trying to retain a player base by adding features all while so many bugs that STILL haven't been fixed is very painful. 4) when you miscalculate what you want to accomplish and find out you have to start over from scratch because the way dreams works from common scenario's, these will turn off a new player from pushing through and solving the matter at hand. I'm not talking about game development that need to be re done to make a better game. Dreams heavily punishes a developer for not working backwards from the very beginning a game which thrives from experimenting with what works from moment to moment. If this game was targeting hardcore players this wouldn't be too big of a deal. But that is in itself why less people play. I've seen arguements against this point, that in real game development this happens all the time. I've used other game making software before, they have systems in place that if something doesn't work out how you planned, you can fix it without ripping apart the entire project. Dreams for most players has been a dream crusher. And I'm not talking about my personal experience only, I have watched countless streams after dreams was released of streamers trying to make a game, these isssues are what made them give up or quit. If you want a game to be played by more people how long will you blame the consumer before you look at your own faults. You really can do so much in dreams but to expect people to put up with the abusive issues to reap that benefit is questionable
Your comments are on the tutorials are something I can’t agree more with. The reason why we’re making a game like Project Fool with only remixable assets and logic is because learning everything is too big a time sink and there’s no easy reference. MM covered the basics and did seem to expect people to just figure it out. One of the top recommendations is to just play with logic and see what happens, that’s not how I learn I need set instructions and MM doesn’t offer them and the community tutorials vary in quality. A more complete compendium of the tutorials was a must and it is something they hopefully will improve.
The problem with the way people are defending Dreams, is that they're taking their own personal feelings into account. I see so many comments here talk about how much they love the game and spend so much time playing it, and how there are so many amazing levels. That's all fine and good....but it's not enough. The problem with Dreams was marketing. The release was a mess. It was released under the radar, to content creators at first... as early access. Which ok, I understand, it makes sense. Lets get some levels made before they release the entire game with no community levels. But the way it was handled. It was sort of done out of nowhere. And I remember when looking up information about the game (when it was in early access) about it's release date... it said it wasn't released or out at all. But i seeing stuff about it? How do I get to play it? How are some people playing and I can't? There wasn't much explanation online about it. So I just out it out of my mind. Then at one point, I thought about the game again and found out it was "fully" released??? I was so confused by how it was released and the information about it. The marketing and advertising for the game was atrocious. The trailers, commercials and ads are terrible. 99% of the ads basically go one of two ways. 1: It's a 3 minute video that shows 10 second clips of a lot of different levels. 2: It's a 3 minutes video that shows 1 level that's incomplete. There's no meat in any trailers. All they ever show are concepts to levels or short clips to levels that take 2-4 minutes to beat. Even as of today, that's what we're seeing. It MIGHT not be so bad, if they didn't purposely release early access to avoid this. But when I see a trailer for a video game, I want to see fully realized ideas. I'm not going to go out and buy a video game just to play concept/incomplete levels. I've said this FROM THE BEGINNING (this isn't hindsight), I don't understand why they didn't just make LittleBigPlanet 4, and gave the game all these same create tools. The game would probably be thriving right now. Sackboy: A Big Adventure has received bigger recognition. Also, when you have to title a video "......is NOT Dying", then whatever you write before that is most likely probably dying lol. It's sad, but true. I for one am extremely sad about it. I remember seeing previews for the game and getting super hyped and excited about it. The problem is that all the previews I saw...... I'm basically still seeing the same things.
Early Access / Launch definitely could have gone better. Marketing was and is poor. But that’s external factors the community can’t control. It doesn’t change the fact that Dreams is amazing. It doesn’t change the fact Dreams is still receiving constant support as a live service game, Media Molecule is rapidly expanding and there’s clearly a future roadmap. I have to entitle a video like this with the key words “Dreams dying” because it’s the only way to get any external attention I wanted to show off all the great things in Dreams because there such a terrible perception and it’s based more upon decisions the suits have made rather than the game or devs which is daft
I have so many ideas for dreams, I just find it a bit hard to look at (it’s super blurry at edges on standard PS4) I just got back into it, so maybe I’ll push past that
When I heard of what dreams finally was going to be…I immediately thought that it was going to be revolutionary. That said, I’m in my 40’s and I’ve been around gaming since the beginning. I had a feeling that the whole “remake and half baked trash” would be the first incarnation of dreams’ “influence” on the eyes looking in from the outside. Not specifically, but this video is what I’ve been waiting on to jump into the venue of dreams. You might think that’s not very supportive of something I had faith in, but then I’d tell you I have a pretty demanding life. Emotionally, physically, and time. I was only going to be able to put so much effort into it. I don’t like doing things half assed. So, I’ll be buying dreams as soon as I finish this reply with dreams of becoming a creator, reporter of good creations like this channel, or even a curator.
I am new at this game I addicted it this game is a masterpiece 👌it will develop you in designing and you will have fan with playing creations when the online multiplayer add in this game it will be huge .
Welcome to the channel Jacob 🙂 Media Molecule have said there are upcoming “big” updates which they expect to create peaks for activity and with their expansion I’ve got no fear of Dreams future for the foreseeable future at least. Even if you don’t buy Dreams I hope you find our channel interesting at least!
I know how this is, I have dreams and I believe in this game, but I know how it feels with people that doesn't even know what are they talking about, but still say something will die or has no content, well I Have VR too, and it's the same for that, VR has plenty of amazing games but people still say has no content and it will die
We’ve just had DreamsCom this week and the quality of creations just keeps improving. It’s a different experience from when it launched a year ago in terms of assets, games and creations
I think Dreams could benefit from a few things, yes a ps5 re-release with a new "brand rejuvenating message" via advertising that paints this game as the solid live service and vast powerful creation toolkit and plenty of gameplay experiences that are all user generated that it is... Also a few psvr RUclipsrs have been talking about the possibility of the ps5 version coinciding with the release of the psvr2, and that they may also bring back Playstation Home through dreams, giving people their own completely customizable space that you can invite others and also a plethora of other ideas with a vr community center (like the mall) people could visit. And I know this may be controversial, but I think it could really benefit from a PC port as well, with cross play to Playstation (on a side note please while your at it Sony make the psvr2 compatible with PC as well just saying...). IMO console exclusives are just booty at this point nobody cares to move to a specific console over an exclusive game people care about the hardware and their personal preference to the user experience. These companies are just choking out the studios by not allowing their titles to flourish across the market. Xbox I think is doing a great job with gamepass by making that available on multiple platforms/devices, and I say that as someone who has never owned an Xbox!
Thanks for the detailed comment Alex that was an interested read lot of good points. I think Dreams is going to have a big presence on PSVR2 as well - a lot of the Dreams community doesn’t think so because reaction was so muted for PSVR Dreams - but PSVR is going to be much more current and a tweaked Dreams could be a killer app.
Man, I bought this game this week. I REALLY want to start making levels and characters but it's so not user friendly!! I'm using my controller and I've rage quite while "making" a level or character so many times. Driving me nut!
Best practice is to start really small. If you try and learn everything at once it’ll drive you bonkers. Start really, really small like 5 minute game tops. You’ll be able to use community assets to help a lot. What sort of things are you interested in making?
@@UglySofaGaming I'm a sculpter so I want to create busts and characters. I just want to experiment and make fun environments. I used the community stamps, but that seemed to take up so much space on my level. I made a tiny island but I ran out of space? How do people make huge levels?? Thanks for helping me!
Some creators won’t have considered size when sharing/optimising. Quick tips: as you’re creating turn the thermo info on (it’s an under on the button that looks like an eye) then when you search community assets it will give you an idea of how expansive they are helping you to make smarter choices. There’s also a “detail” tool you can use to make items less costly by reducing detail. Good thing about being a sculpture is once you learn how to create in an optimised way you’ll be able to make efficient environments to your taste where as I have to pick and choose carefully what I use. If you spend more time sculpturing and doing environmental design you could lean on community assets for something else like logic or gameplay mechanics
Very very late to this, but as a dreams creator with over 1000 followers, it is hard to find motivation to continue developing the game I am working on, knowing that many probably won't see it.
We have a vide planned this year for how to get more people to play your creations but there’s a hard limit you hit fast with the current player base. It’s such an odd question but what sort of player count would you get satisfaction from?
@@UglySofaGaming Well even though my follower count is high (much higher than it should be lol), it seems most people don't play my creations anymore, as it is rare for most of my games to get past 100 likes (which is far less than before). But then again I've changed my content a bit and the people who originally followed may not be a fan of my newer content?
I do not own dreams, to be fair I completely forgot it existed by the time it got released and since I never heard of it afterwards I somehow stumbled upon it now in 2022.. I feel bad for missing out cos I know the feeling of playing those extremely polished creations that feels amazing like when I play little big planet levels. It's something else, it's no AAA games but sometimes feels a lot better than them because you can tell the effort and love and care put into them and it's a whole different feeling than finishing horizon for instance. Sadly I missed out on dreams, kinda hoping for dreams 2 maybe on PS5 to jump in, but we'll see.. Sad that people are actually wasting their time flaming a game they don't care about for no other reason than being a mean asshole to be fair.
Yeah I've seen plenty of videos discussing game creation engines and dreams never even gets a honorable mention. I was starting to get the feel that most people have dismissed it already.
Most of those videos are for people who want to monetize their game. Dreams got dismissed due to that reason alone. Most would rather take their time learning other creation software that can be monetized.
I can imagine the problem is that most creators are aiming for big complex games, Like I am. the logic is tricky to do and takes a lot of trial, error and time. I'm still putting the character together and I'm gonna have to make combat, crafting tables, codex's stores, etc.
People going for big complex Dreams is another huge conversation. I love the moxy of it, but people shooting to make a “AAA”’game will drive themselves insane though l. If Dreams does “evolve” like I predict in this video creators who put the time into to make these massive games may reap the benefits but there’s a lot of ifs!
@@UglySofaGaming your not wrong. for the longest time I went nuts just trying to figure out animated weapon switching. I figured it out but it took lots of techniques before I got it working right. I'm almost done with the weapon logic now I just have to finish it and do UI stuff. much easier.
@@UglySofaGaming I've been working on a grand theft auto inspired game set in my hometown for a year now and I'll admit i might have already gotten insane. I've had to reconfigure the map atleast 5 times due to thermo limits. I cancelled the story for various complications.
@@UglySofaGaming For people new to making games they should consider creating a small and simpler games to learn from before making pursuing "AAA" quality style games.
Tying the gadgets to gameplay thermo was a misstep, imo. Logic should have its own thermo. They also have to deal with a real soul-crusher of an issue and that is throttling people with more powerful hardware so that vanilla PS4 users dont get left behind. They would have been far better off pushing release back to PS5 launch and spending the extra year optimizing for the hardware upgrade. If that were the case, you'd probably be able to stuff 3-5 times more logic into a scene. Although, a lot of things that happened in the dev cycle are kind of head-scratchers in hindsight.
I can’t really speak to the music making never tried it myself but there’s a whole sun community in dreams based around the audio tools so there must be something to it!
The problem with dreams is that almost nobody wants to play a short, non-multiplayer slightly unpolished game within a game. Even though these creators are extremely talented, it can’t come close to other real game experiences created by a professional team. Why would anybody play gothic scythe when you can play dark souls. Or why would anybody play call of the battlefront instead of COD, or ommy kart instead of Mario kart. That is the real problem
I think it would be cooler of M.M. ported dreams to different platforms. Such examples are Xbox and PC ports and then have cross platform multiplayer. I think they game would be a bit more popular with more platforms to play it on. 🤔
A bit more, but I think Sony and MM need to work on getting the people Dreams is already available for more interested in playing it. Once you solve that problem and Dreams is a more desirable product porting to other platforms becomes much more profitable!
Its the lack of marketing and no online multiplayer to boost sales. Dreams could be easily marketed by Sony, showing people’s creations and whatsoever. I don’t know why Sony isn’t giving this game any attention, I know if this was in the ps3 era this game would’ve been all over the place. But now times have changed now sadly. I hope this game gets the credit it deserves and it reaches a good amount of players
I think about this a lot and I still feel like Dreams is missing some secret sauce. I think the UI needs major changes, and without multiplayer Dreams remains a hard sell. Singleplayer games are not dying, but it's becoming increasingly harder to justify playing hit or miss games on your own when you could have fun with friends. I don't know if you guys played LBP before Dreams, but Dreams definitely feels like a cold, isolated experience in comparison. Even though I create a lot in Dreams I myself funnily enough am one of those players who almost exclusively plays AAA games, and often can't get into Dreams ones. I don't need AAA games made in Dreams, but I do want to see more AAA (or I guess professional indie) level controls and responsiveness. A lot of games in Dreams, well made or not, suffer from floaty controls, janky animations, unbalanced difficulty and questionable hit detection (not saying mine don't!). While there are still plenty of responsive and quality games in Dreams, very few of them have ever gotten me hooked for some reason. For my ''aquired taste'' :) there isn't a system seller yet, that I love so much that I think it's worth buying Dreams for. Might just be because my preference for genre, story driven third/first person shooters, is one of the harder ones to get right in Dreams. For those who love horror and puzzle games, buying Dreams is probably a no-brainer.
It was a missed opportunity not to include LBP in with Dreams. They had a built it community that could’ve been built off of. Having the lighter easier creation tools of LBP would keep a lot more of the casual gamers involved and filled the void
@@MrMpa31 Mm were in quite a difficult position with Dreams. I love how much depth Dreams has and wouldn't want that depth to be sacrificed, but at the same time I miss that more playful physics based nature of creating in LBP. It might help if Dreams had more templates (characters, vehicles, general logic) and some sort of playground levels, so you can immediately start having fun with the create tools instead of starting with an empty scene every time.
Mm has never been good about responding to problems no matter how big the problem gets. Back in the LBP days they NEVER fixed the flood of copied levels despite how many people left as a result. I do think that much of it falls onto us the community for promoting it. Though I admit it is very disheartening to know that if you can’t produce super top tier content you are doomed to the realm of obscurity. I’ve spent so much of this time on my film series just so I could tell a story that’s been in my head since 2017 and to have not a single person watch the later chapters unless I post it in a community jam is a bit of a motivation killer for me.
I like dreams it's got a lot of good horror games it's just hard to find all the good games if you don't know what they're called. People are just haters and talk smack but I like some games in dreams more than games I buy in the ps store
I bought the game on release, learned it a little and created some stuff. But then i realised, i can't go anywhere with this. Why should i dedicate my time and energy to getting better at this program? I switched to learning Blender instead.
Dreams isn't for everyone Beytrod. If you were hoping to use Dreams to make money or break into professional indie games development there are numerous better options. First and foremost (especially this current version) Dreams is a tool for casual creations; to have fun, to stretch a creative muscle, to collaborate, to workshop ideas, to gain the immediate feedback and audience it can provide.
So here's an idea I whould like to see in a mid term to distant future of the dreams engine: A dedicated Dreams Pro version that cuts out the usual dreamiverse and makes it a fully dedicated development engine exclusive to PSN offering to monetize your projects. It whould be free but you whould be obliged to take all the legal responsibilities and hoops of a regular developer including fees and revenue share to sony. This enviroment whould offer you to make validated creation that are all yours. You could build games to add to PSN or assets to share on a dedicated content marketplace for Dreams Pro. BUT all assets you whould make for the Dreams Pro marketplace whould also be released to the regular Dreams for free. Offering to test and play around with them before adding them to your projects and offering the hobbiest and recreational developers quality content. Also you could import your Dreams Pro game to Dreams and cut it down to a Demo or an early access version to gather feedback before release. So the idea is to evolve Dreams further into the professional tool it deserves to be while keeping and sustaining the regular version as the wonderful playground it already is. Wouldn't that be a win on all fronts?
I don't understand why this is called a bad game when imo even calling it a game is a bit stupid, this is an incredibly powerful creative tool that has infinite potential
I love dreams for what it is. But my preconceived notions from my friends hyping it were far from the actual product. It's great for hobbyist or those who aren't ready to take the plunge and try to publish a game.
This retail version is exactly that yeah, for hobbyists. People who aren’t creative don’t understand why anyone would “work” in Dreams for no monetary incentive. At the same time there’s clearly a lot of people that got Dreams wanting to monetise and there’s just zero indication of any commitment that would ever happen...I think one day it will happen but no in this retail version of the game. “Dreams” is a retail game/platform - what I hint at in the video is if Playstation wanted they could easily turn Dreams one day into an engine people can license and export or some other package which might be appealing to creators who want to make a professional project. But in 2021 I can’t in good conscience recommend a wanna be professional developer Dreams as a tool for anything other than a tool to have fun with, experiment, workshop and maybe learn some design principles.
@@UglySofaGaming The guy in the video who looks like where's Waldo, he stated before the EA release that they would love to allow monetization and have something like the unity store.
here's my best explanation for the thermo limits. as you're probably familiar, the game uses flecks. each fleck is individual, and each fleck is a plane with a texture attached. now imagine how many polygons are in a high detail scene. i think that's why thermo is so limiting at the moment.
I have just watched this and 100% agree because dreams is amazing but it is underrated and bearly anyone's talks about it anymore and even when I first played there loads of memes and more memes but now, if you were to go on dreamsurfing now there would great games for you with touch of button to enjoy. And if more youtubers and people in general recognised this it would be brilliant.
Sony LOST so much money on this, but they still continue to support MM BECAUSE its so unique and such a special 'Playstation' only thing. It does need Online Multiplayer though...
I hope dreams comes to PC. Online multiplayer would be great too. Having gotten the game last week, I think my issue with a lot of the games are that they're all really short and shallow games (from what I've tried out). Seeing how Core games has been developing their platform and the constant updates, it's kinda sad to see how little updates dreams gets. Hoping the best for the game though. I also think the game should be free to play like Core and Roblox. Oh and monetization incentives for dream level creators, which would incentivize users to create longer, more in depth games, getting players to stay longer in their games.
Great video as always. “It’s only the beginning” is what Mm keep saying and I believe in them. Things can and are, constantly evolving. At one point it just needs a massive push from Sony and Mm. But it needs a lot of work and they really need to work on the things that the community keep saying are needed. So many things that seem to me that should be very simple fixes and many people have brought up, but they’re still the same since beta 🤷🏻♂️ I love Mm to bits and the biggest fanboy, but doesn’t mean I see no wrong with the game or the way it’s being run. Also I want to see more things to keep people coming back to Dreams. Jams are a good start, but so much more can be done
This was a very well made video, you are not just a nice little content player after all you have some bite ha ha ha although I agree with most of the things you said but I also disagree with some of it too
The perception that there is nothing worth playing in Dreams is likely because it is almost impossible to find the games worth playing. Unless you know exactly what you are looking for, Dreams isnt going to help you find anything. Im very new to Dreams and i see a huge potential, but frustrated for sure.
This is interesting because I touch on the video the homepage is much better than it used to be. Are you still having problems finding interesting stuff to play recently?
@@UglySofaGaming “Much better” is still awful. No easy way to categorize by game type. You see thumbnails but hovering doesn’t give you a clue if it is a game, a walking scene, a meme, or whatever. You need to open each one individually. The MM “recommends” are the same every time I log on and seem not to have any bearing on my preferences. I find good games because of RUclipsrs, definitely not from MM The Dream Surfing homepage needs a complete redesign with a focus on discoverability. It needs tabs with categories. It needs easier scrolling with more than 1 line on the screen. It needs tags that tell the user what something is before opening it. It needs personalization and filters.
I just wish they would give us an option to download levels and save them in a playlist for later.. i hate that internet is needed to access like 90% of the game.. i dont mind connecting online to look for new content to play. Just want it accessible for later. Games like mario maker 2 do this on switch. Why cant Dreams??
Dreams as a concept is brilliant... but lets be honest... the quality of the games made In dreams aren’t really much better than something you’d see In a free browser game... So we gotta ask ourselves, “would the average gamer like playing short, Amateur-made games on a Ps4/ps5? Especially when psnow exists...?” So yes dreams is Nice... but the Lack of professionally made (Mm) assets is really poor. And we gotta stop beating around the bushes and stop lying to ourselves about the quality of the games In dreams... They are not appealing to the general public... and it actually surprises me that Mm spend almost a decade making an engine with such weak thermos. And then people wonder, “why did everyone go?” Hopefully Dreams+ (PS5) Will be a complete gamechanger with high-end assets and other components that make the games look like something that wasn’t made for a PS1/2
I disagree as far as what you think about the quality issues. There’s certainly a lot of stuff not above browser games but I think we’ve got to the point where there is a very health choice of fun quality games that go past the list in this video. You can’t find something like Happy Jack free online. We can’t judge Dream on its total output I think but the with the value is does provide for a very low price point. That being said - I think what you’ve said about PS Now is on the money. That, game pass, ps plus, games with gold, massive frequent digital discounts. Games have far less value than when I was a youngster l, there’s so much free content or stuff available for very cheap and that definitely eats into the appeal of Dreams. A game that spawns infinite games would have been MONEY on PS1 and PS2 and even was on PS3. More professional content packs from MM, wrapped up in a story expansion (LBP themed pack anyone) would put a lot of eyes back on Dreams for sure
I agree.. When I look at a good game in dreams I am like "wow! That's pretty good for a dreams game!" Hell even the main guy in MM that left recently stated he hated flecks but the art team wanted that painterly look. I agree with him. I hate the flecks.
One of the biggest criticisms one of my friends who doesn’t play Dreams is he hates the fleck graphics. Was it Alex Evans who said this I missed this news?
I have always wanted to play dreams, but I am a pc gamer so I am just hoping it gets a port to steam because the second it is I am playing it. To further elaborate. I love dreams, but every other game on Playstation 4 except bloodborne looks bad so if I got a ps4 it would just be a dreams machine and so I would rather just wait for it to be ported.
I’m lucky in that PlayStation has always been my console of choice. I cross my fingers one day for a PC port so more people can join the Dreams community, but I think we need a native PS5 version first
@@spider-man7482 Yes because I don't like any of those except Little Big Planet 1 and 2, but I played Little Big Planet 1 and 2 on ps3 so I saw no point in getting them on ps4.
@@spider-man7482 ps3 had tokyo jungle, it had Twisted Metal, I also was able to get the digital versions of war of the monsters and tomba 2 which I lost and those are both some of the best games ever made, it had Fat Princess. All the new ones are hollywood movies woth extra steps and hollywood makes the worst movies I can just watch Team Fabulous 2 for the 500th time.
The persistent idea there's nothing of quality in dreams comes from the fact that worthwhile creations must be dug in deep to discover. I wouldn't even call the failure of curation MM's fault either, as you explained what drove clicks and what didn't. Goes back to Sony failing to recognize what they held. I once streamed hopping from game to game for friends who didn't own dream to watch. Played several hours of titles. They WANTED to see more but simply couldn't unless I streamed or they were able to Ninja their way through the internet algorithm to find something. It wasn't as black and white as "I need a triple A title", it was merely people only uploaded remakes and jokes. As you stated yourself, it was the first thing you saw even when you logged on as an owner of the game. Now if the people who gave dreams a chance and got past the paywall got burned by the memes, there's no way in hell others are gonna have better luck. Icing on the cake is you can call dreams a live service game, which may as well be industry speak for "good content will arrive later." It's difficult to change your reputation once it sets in. Dreams has the monumental task of doing this, seemingly through word of mouth alone. This lack of exposure to the content is what contributes to dreams negative perception, and what results in players not being willing to experiment. I'm glad MM isn't giving up on dreams and I'm glad their numbers are showing growth. Dreams is fantastic and it doesn't deserve to be forgotten so quickly.
The unfortunate reality is that people these days are so used to triple A experiences like spiderman and god of war etc. People dont want to make. They wanna play. And sonys triple A titles do this. So to consumers and players, thats what they want. Its sad.. but the reality we are in..
I bought it when it was new thinking I could remake one of my old favorites azrik it's Xbox original and it's pretty out dated so I thought I could remake it, but I didn't have a vr head set or the wands so making it with a controller was so hard and I gave up after making the character model because I didn't think I could finish it.😂😅👍
Does anyone think that there's any truth to the leak that Dreams Plus is the PS5 upgrade and it is coming out July 29th? It seems plausible to me, but leaks are often bullshit so I don't know. I HOPE it's true though.
I think its completely wishful thinking. There’s no source for it and people are just trying to guess E3 lists. Would love to proved wrong, and I’m sure eventually Dreams will see something like Dreams+ but as of yet there’s nothing to get hype about
@@UglySofaGaming I like to keep an open mind but you're probably right. I still think its only a matter of time before Sony and Media Molecule announce something regarding a PS5 upgrade. The VR update was less than a year after release, so judging by the release pattern, the PS5 upgrade can't be that far away. I mean, what else could MM be working on at the moment?
@@UglySofaGaming I’m still really hopeful of Dreams+ being a thing and possibly even being released soon. DreamsCom21 is 2 days before that 29th date. They did the big Dreams VR reveal at the end of the first DreamsCom. They’re constantly saying people can’t do streams atm as they’re extremely busy atm and in a tone that implies things are coming. A couple of things happened the day of the “leak” and Mm employees blatantly were told to take things down on Twitter and Twitch.... Also absolutely radio silence from all after that. If it was untrue, surely they could deny it 😉🤔
I missed the reaction to the “leak” but that is a little interesting. Was the 29th the rumoured date of a Sony show? I would love to see it but after companies like Gorilla and Naughty Dog were so slow upgrading their games to next gen, I’ve lost a little faith that the next gen version of Dreams is soon. It’ll come but I think not for a while and maybe MP is finally ready. Seriously hope I’m wrong, a rebrand like Dreams+ would be awesome as well
@@UglySofaGaming I think it’s more likely the other way around. The PS5 version with possibly some more bells and whistles in the graphics department and more thermo, maybe even 60 FPS logic for Dreams+/PS5 seems like an easier thing to release. Also loads of the new jobs they’ve been trying to fill have been about multiplayer. So I feel they’re still struggling to get multiplayer to work.
while i agree that the game has potential, the problem of this video is that you find those creators levels to be very good. Listen man, don't lie to yourself, they are very impressive due to the fact that they were made by a person using a controller, but they are far from being good games, those levels are mediocre at best. None of those levels even come close to the quality of the main level (media molecule's). You commented about the fps game. Dude, why would i play a game like that when i can play cod or any better fps game out there? If someone have any interest in dreams, it'll be because of the unique levels that they can play with their friends for fun, no one is interested in starting a level, but actually it's not a level, it's a stupid meme with reused assets from someone else, or a walking simulator where you are supposed to just look at how "pretty" the level is. If they want to make this game be big, they have to focus on multiplayer and making the tools easier to use and easier to understand. Multiplayer should have been there since day 1. The way they made the game ended up shortening the audience by half because of these flaws. LBP worked well because it had all of those qualities that is said
Different things just appeal to different people. If you’re only interested in AAA experiences Dreams will never appeal to you. Why would you ever play Dreams Shooter #4 when you can go and drop £70 on the new Call of Duty? Because its fun. It can be a novelty. It can be a unique experience. It’s not your desert island game. You’re not signing up to play this Dream for 200 hours while it gouges your wallet. We made a video with the best games from Dreams in 2021: ruclips.net/video/T7RKmpLPdAE/видео.html Most of the stuff on that list I played for more than an hour, some a lot more. So many of them have held my attention better and gave me a better experience than Arts Dream from Media Molecule. I own 4 LittleBigPlanet games, and after 10 years and millions of community creations I’d struggle to name a single one of them and from my experience there’s a single handful that are worth spending an hour on. Not to say they are bad, to my original point they just don’t appeal to me. Where as Dreams is a massive variety of different genres and I find actually playing the games on it infinitely more enjoyable. When I play these games is does pop into my head they were made on a controller, not as a detriment or a handicap as you think of it, but I think about how Dreams has opened up pathways for game experiences that never would have existed otherwise. I never would have made a game without Dreams. It’s awesome I made a horror game and 3000 people have played it, and I’ve got to see some of them jump out of their seats or just enjoy interacting with it.
I like dreams but I cant stand using a controller when in creation mode. I don't need it on PC but it would of been nice if I could use a USB Mouse and Keyboard for this one.
If you don't like aiming you can always change it to allow you to use your joystick instead of the motion sensor. But If that's not the reason why you dislike it, I don't think there's a fix. 😅
If I may, I'd like to offer only one critique/comment about your style. You are incredibly slow talking. Incredibly slow. Not sure if this is intentional but I would swear this was recorded at 50% speed. Thank you for listening to my critique. I enjoyed your breakdown of Dreams and fully believe, as you do, Dreams isn't leaving us. :)
Media Molecule’s live service team broke their backs this year doing what they could to keep interest going but I’ve got to think a flashier announcement is on its way soon! We’ve got a similar video coming soon and I’ll take your critique to heart - I’m something of a motor mouth usually with a slight lisp so I try to enunciate and probably over did it. Welcome to the channel!
@@UglySofaGaming Thank you so much for your response! I subbed, and am looking forward to your future content!! (PS, Your clarity and enunciation was spot on! Definitely a win there. :)
Marketing has been absolutely terrible. Most people i talk to have never heard of Dreams.
I wished I’d mentioned it in the video but apathy not just negativity is also a problem for Dreams
That's a blessing. Better to let this embarrassing failure die quietly so we can all pretend it was just a nightmare.
@@jimmylittle9393 I disagree. While they may have failed at marketing and there are improvements to be made, the product itself is great with tons of potential. Have you tried it Jimmy?
@@MrMpa31 He's proly an Xbot honestly lol
It's nothing short of sad to see so many wonderful creations be shoved to the side. Dreams is astonishing I can't explain how I feel when I play some of these passionate games that we the gamers have created. I just want to say if you have created something in dreams and you gave it your all no matter how big or small I personally appreciate your work and so do other gamers so please don't give up on your creations don't give up on dreams.
Such a positive comment Joshua, thank you! As I said in the video I believe the perception can be changed and it’s still very early days for Dreams
Great comment 👍🏻💖
What a clown.
Dreams as a concept is outstanding, and truly one of a kind;
A open game creation software with every tool in one place to make...anything!
Dreams is suffering though, From playstation never advertising it to No solid dates on any new features from MM.
From the players side (I have put hundreds of hours into dreams) you have unlimited options to build whatever you want, its great!
A issue though is lack of attention from playstation and MM in some ways, which leaving very little playerbase growth, and making fewer and fewer players as a whole.
Less players=less shared content=less seen content.
And from there bored players to less players, now that 80+ hour game you have been working on only 5 people get to see it.
That hurts.
Overall its amazing, one of my favorite games on PS, but Dreams is suffering :/
Media Mole have said there are updates and features which will increase activity and the player count, just unclear how far off these are.
I’d love to see a clear roadmap graphic planned out for the year which will give people things to look forward to and more time for plan for events
I don't think the problem is that people think of dreams poorly... But rather that they don't think of dreams at all.
This is definitely something I wish I had mentioned in the video as well. Apathy is another HUGE problem for Dreams. Outside of Dreams communities when Dreams is mentioned I see a few people putting the respect on its name it deserves, most being negative. But you’re right...more often than not, nothing at all.
I agree with this. When I posted a thread about Dreamscom on ResetERA, I got 1 reply. My weekly best Dreams Creations OT hardly gets any replies, though people have expressed their thanks to me for the curation efforts.
Speaking of which, do you want me to share this video on ERA @Ugly Sofa Gaming? I vividly remember how the two of us had to defend Dreams in that Kotaku article thread. It was literally bonkers.
I have something else to add: I believe the curation around the launch of Dreams was not good enough. As a result, many people had already left Dreams behind before the good stuff got properly highlighted. That’s something which they cannot correct now. I do think a PS Now or PS Plus addition is in the cards at some point for Dreams. When they do that, they should be ready, and I believe they will be.
Go for it Crazillo! Just maybe take some blood pressure pills in anticipation for the responses 😆
@@UglySofaGaming Ha, you bet I will. Have hardly seen any Dreamers on that board btw. Always surprises me that Dreamers also seemingly like to stay within the bubble
We had some in the OT at the start but sadly there are just better places to show off work and talk about Dreams. I am always genuinely surprised the reception isn’t better on Era
I would love to be extremely positive about dreams, but for me it just feels like theres nothing to gain for working on a full game like I have. There isnt many people out there who can see my creation. making it feel like all my hard work will simply get buried within thousands of creations. I love dreams as a creation tool, but wish my creations and all my hours of hard work would be mine. At times I feel like a free worker going through all the stress to end up with nothing. Ive worked on a game for 2 years and will have nothing to show for the 1000s of hours spent creating a hole game. I came into to this not knowing how far I'd take it. Little did I know I was hitting the 2 year mark. Dreams has so much potential but very little reward for the creators.
That's true, but you can still get a few rewards from being a creator. I personally make games for myself.
What game? I might check it out.
A game like this shouldn't have been an exclusive Playstation title. If it was cross-platform the player base would be way bigger.. I'm also sure that's why there's no "export feature". The concept of this is great and I hope stuff like this gets made more.
Still plenty of twists to come I think with Dreams it’s just a slow waiting game :/
@@UglySofaGaming Doubt it unfortunately 😕
Remember it took 8 years to get it out the door 😆 Mm have always been “we’d love to but it’s tricky” when it comes to exporting so I understand your doubt I just live in hope!
@@botezsimp5808 Dreams would not even exist without it being a PlayStation exclusive
@@bamban_garcia5562 Well that's a shame.
My only issue is the fact that there's no way to export my hard work
Exporting is my number 1 wanted feature for Dreams but I think it’s way in the future sadly.
Core, the UGC creation engine built on top of Unreal Engine, has player tournaments with cash prizes, as they have a similar lack of players. But then again, they have online multi. I think releasing without online multi was a big mistake. Online multi is a HUGE source of players, and Dreams is basically 10,000 single player games in various stages of completion.
Someone asked me the other day what more marketing could Sony have done...and I was like, pony up a prize fund for a creation competition. Could have been huge when Dreams was at its peak
@@UglySofaGaming Yeah, that too. Core has gamejams with cash prizes(usually $5-10,000 each jam), and they have a creation invitational with a prize pool of something like $200,000.
Project Genesis had a horror game jam some the best horror games came from it and it was only a 1000$ split from the top 3 winners I can't imagine it on a bigger scale.
i hope dream gets a pc release some day.
Nicely put together. Dreams has some amazing content, some fun content and a lot that isnt. The trick is to find a curator you trust who puts up regular collections so you can find the cream. What curators need to do is find each other because we are all pretty invisible on our own. The Tenia has got the keys to the castle so he's fine, and he gets to put out his choice in MM picks and playlists, but it is really hard to get noticed with collections as a normal Dreamer. Maybe we need to start promoting the collectors as well as the Dreams. Any suggestions on who to look for?
I think an important part is to go beyond the comfort zone and into the broader gaming communities like Reddit, ResetERA with the content. It can hurt because (as UglySofaGaming said) there are a lot of terrible internet gamers out there, but you just gotta be thick about it. For my part I did post his video to ResetERA, as I do with other curators stuff. The stuff at least needs to be out there. How it gets the attention it deserves is a whole different story though, and I have not found an answer to this problem yet.
Thank you for the nice comment! Curation and collections are in desperate need of an overhaul, they just lack any sort pf discoverability. I think it’s up to MM and a lot of gains could be got from it
@@UglySofaGaming Music really suffers too. There is not enough spotlight on Music creators. So hard to find good musicians to collaborate on that has a style i'm looking for.
So excited to see how the community expands on Dreams in the future!
Nothing stops this train :)
I picked up dreams on PS4 a few days ago on a whim knowing almost nothing about it other than people made funny memes with it and a game here and there like a year ago (heck, even when Dreams was announced at E3 it wasn't exactly clear _what_ the game truly was so I kinda skipped over it, sony didn't exactly do the best job of marketing it) and I think it's easily the best thing I own on the platform to be quite frank. Feels like the return of Macromedia Flash/Newgrounds to me in a good way, and the combined value of that dwarfs any AAA game to me. I feel awful for sleeping on it.
However, I would really like to see a PC release on steam down the line, so I can start creating and playing stuff in VR and share them with playstation players, as I already own and enjoy a Valve Index and think buying a PSVR just for dreams and astro bot rescue mission is a big redundant expense since that's all I'd use a PSVR for. I hear that the creation tools are vastly more user friendly if you have 2 move controllers and I can definitely see how that would be the case as it'd be less like fiddling with a jittery gyro mouse and more like playing with legos.
The gyro controller is fantastic for menu navigation but far too unstable for *comfortable* creation in my opinion, I'm actually quite impressed at the stuff that's being made considering that limitation, especially stuff like Noguchi's Bell. Sure you can fix a lot of stuff by using Keyframes for animation which can smooth out that jitter for you, but the workflow is inefficient with a controller in my opinion. I also played a game called "*lash" that was stunning to look at but made my PS4 Pro cry as it struggled to render all of the beautiful foilage.
The actual tools themselves and the tutorials for them though? mwah, chef's kiss of excellence. I genuinely think that people _could_ make "AAA quality" games with dreams given the right amount of time and collaboration, because I see the potential in the toolkit. Even the limitations themselves can be broken by splitting up the creation into several scenes that load into each other, and they load *surprisingly fast* which is a thing I think is super impressive under the hood type stuff you wouldn't see many talk about. Can only imagine it would be instant on PC or PS5.
Welcome to Dreams and our channel WMan! I love the comparison to Newground I saw someone trying to diss Dreams the other day as saying half of the games are no better than the old free browser games, some of those games were awesome!
You do know that you can use move controllers in Dreams without a PSVR headset, right? You're not limited to DS4 or VR
@@MrMOGHammer Yes, but I would LIKE to use VR so I get a true 6DOF camera with depth perception. Also, I do not have move controllers for my PS4, only my PS3, and I don't know where those went.
If they add in "export game" functionality, this software could change everything.
Literal game changer. Would change our channel completely. It’d be so different it’d hard to imagine it happening in the current version of Dreams I’ve always seen a feature like that included on something like a pro version of Dreams
I have owned Dreams for a while and never felt I was progressing in my creative ability but since the LBP servers were disabled I have spent more time on the game again and it reminded me of why I used to be so excited about the game. Now that I’ve spent time on the game though I have finally felt that I am getting better with it (though I still don’t think I’m that good). Your video review of dreams though is a near perfect summary of how I’ve been viewing the Dreams community!!
In comparison to my time with LBP, Dreams is extremely complex and requires a lot of effort for very little reward. I would might as well just learn computer programming and create a game for scratch for profit. Also, not many people play Dreams so who knows if your efforts will go unnoticed. LBP levels were just so fun and easy to create that required minimal time and effort
I do disagree myself JJ. The barrier to creation in LBP was lower but the range was much, much more limited. You could easily make an OK side-scrolling platformer - but again to make anything truly worth someone else's time you have to dig into the complicated logic systems, learn some game design etc. Ultimately (personally speaking) I never spent much time playing community creations in LBP despite owning all three games. Levels were frustratingly slow to load into, and the game was filled with just as much jank and rubbish as Dreams. As a player I've found Dreams to be infinitely more rewarding and I feel much more confident recommending Dreams rather than LBP to someone who wants to play rather than create.
The idea that one should learn computer programming rather than create in Dreams is based on the assumption that the only reason to create is based on either monetary incentive or professional development. I wouldn't recommenced Dreams to someone based on these assumptions. People that ARE using Dreams for those things are doing it on the hope the Dreams platform may one day offer monetisation/exporting and while I think it is likely (one day) there's zero guarantee. There are unarguably better options for these people.
But that's not the point of (this current) version of Dreams. Dreams is a casual creations tool, meant to be messy and abstract and collaborative and fun. It's designed to scratch a creative itch, not to make you money or help get you a coding job.
Wouldn't it be interesting, if Sony let they're in-house studios make little projects and games, that are exclusive for Dreams. This will attract many new players.
I always thought a nice day out for the teams would be a trip to Media Molecule to do a three game jam with Naughty Dog, Insomniac and so on
Great video! I’m relatively new to DREAMS, having had no real success creating anything for the first year or more. I couldn’t even tell at the beginning if I’d be able to make anything of value, so it was a bit of a leap of hope to keep coming back to it every few months.
I finally pushed through the (sometimes frustrating) sculpting tutorials far enough to make encouraging progress around Xmas 2021, and it quickly ballooned into much much more than just sculpting for me.
So… I’m in the smallest DREAMS pool of all: VR.
As a gamer I have no interest in non-VR content, but I like that many DREAMS creations can be enjoyed with some level of VR immersion, albeit limited.
Since gaining traction figuring out how to sculpt, I’ve learned that the real VR capabilities of DREAMS have almost not been touched by anyone else. When searching exhaustively for obvious things like “VR PADDLEBALL” or “VR GOLF” - anything that uses the simple dynamic of reaching out with a tool to touch something else in the environment , I’ve come across approximately three creations by others, and none of them are any fun. It’s what led me to my first public share: “ICE Realm VR” a place I created as part of my own learning process, so it’s an odd mishmash of things… but, I think it showcases something fundamental that I wish others were aware of and implementing in their own experiences.
It’s quite easy to almost instantly begin physics-based, first person game creation since no animated, pre-programmed, logic-filled, action is required when the player is already existing within the game physically.
Anyways, I’m now on a mission to learn everything I can, and figure out ways to show other people the squandered power of DREAMS for VR. I feel strongly that it shouldn’t simply be the single-most popular game for VR enthusiasts… it should be a PSVR system-seller, as there is no direct comparison in ALL of VR.
There aren’t any good templates for the VR in DREAMS, so I’m hoping to act as an ambassador, possibly with some instructional introductory videos, or even a handy usable starter kit.
ive just ordered it on Amazon.
i spent a couple of days just writing and sketching. creative people are the same people that find hidden jems
Welcome to the Dreams community and our channel Mr Max :)
I originally wanted to try and create a unique original 3D platform game, but the thermometer fills up too fast. The thermometer is a real turn-off that limits what I originally intended/imagined for a 3D platform game that I really wanted to create.
Without clever optimising it really does - I wonder how much a PC or PS5 version could boost things if they took the shackles off. As it is you just have to make smart choices and compromises
Thank you for putting splatty’s adventure on here, we have been putting are hearts and soul into the project, we are far from being done :)
We wanted to feature a taste of some of Dreams finest and Splatty certainly is that! I still haven’t seen all the updates you’ve been made but was so impressed since the last time I played, the feeling of nostalgia for PS1 platformers hits you like a brick wall so many people fail to capture that magic on Dreams but I think you guys got it :)
@@UglySofaGaming I do recommend playing through all the content we have now it’s around 3-4 hours, you should stop and look around the amount of details we put in, for example in the bed room try changing the color of your characters outfit and you will see the magic :)
@@pbgamer115 I definitely will I just need to find the time. If history is anything to go by I’ll probably do it right before your next huge update 😅
all dreams needs is multiplayer and a pc port for it to blow up
Bang on.
Maybe they could make it free for PS Now or the monthly free games. They could've made it come with the PS5 as well, usually those three ways get a game noticed by a whole lot.
i feel like if this game had multiplayer similar to lbp the game would be a lot better because most of my memories on lbp were diving in and playing with random people
This game is so underrated man. It needs more love and has so much potential.
More love for Dreams! Moar!
im getting into dreams as a 3d visual artist. so for me it's not about the games. It's lovely for just plain old visual art.
same I love creating in VR in dreams and the music studio is awesome. I mean not just for games....feels like a playstation of FL studios..I can even use a midi keyboard for it
I remember seeing Dreams for the first time. I was concerned, like yeah you can do this but can you do that? I kept my expectations both high and low and they got surpassed by the community and every update is welcome with open hands, even if they are slow.
I was just looking for creations to show some Dreams gameplay. A lot of them were like "Wow I wanna play this more". I will be forever sad that it's not as popular as I'd like it but I will love Dreams.
Glad I came back to dreams some what to help out
Welcome back to the team 😁
Same here honestly
this video is amazing. needs to be seen more wow
Thanks Ramy 😄
Haven't got to play Dreams yet but it was great to see that it has even greater potential than I thought and I was even going to try making a full demo game on it way before trying to make a whole individual game series.
Best to start small definitely. So many people jump straight into a massive game and quit. I’m making a 30-60 minute game in my spare time and I’ve set very realistic goals and it’s still going to take me ages.
Dreams is fucking awesome, that said it will never be worth wasting your time creating content until we can exort models, sound etc and monetize our creations. I had big dreams for dreams but after hundreds of hours I know realize its a waste of time to make my creation in dreams, despite the awesome tools. I cant market my creation, I cant make any money, people on other systems or without dreams can never see/play it....when they fix this I will come back.
I don't think Media Molecule made Dreams just so people can profit. I believe Dreams is supposed to be fun and a game where you create whatever you want and share with the community. If you're looking for money you might have to go to Unity or Unreal, but it's probably much harder to use than Dreams.
@@spencer5372 Ya. Media Molecules mission was never going to work as you can't use it to make something else for profit in most ways other engines allow for! What a waste and the community refuses to understand that. It could create so many jobs
I really dont undestand Sony. Im a gamer on Dreams not a creator, but i see the potential of Dreams. If the future is the metaverse then sony its not seeing things like Dreams are the future, this is like playstation home all over again.
Dreams could be a platform like RUclips, but it needs monetization like patreon or crowd founding, they can make money charging a porcentage.
The game should be free, at least at ps plus to encreased the player based. Multiplayer will be a great addition.
It’s a waiting game I think. If the Meta Verse actually evolves past a buzz word there’s a lot of potential for Dreams to be a player in that space
We need more players!!
And MM needs to put in some effort to curate. If I type in "water" for sound effects, I shouldn't have to scroll through dozens of clips that are: screaming, song rip offs, sheer nonsense, broken and poor quality clips...
We should AT THE VERY LEAST be able to flag assets which are incorrectly categorized for MM to fix. Why is some of this junk being made public and not private. There is so much CRAP on dreams these days. People seem to just abuse it for making meme content and anyone actually wanting to create have to wade through the ever growing nonsense.
HOW do we still not have multiplayer? Why is all the most interesting stuff found via Reddit and MM only spotlights the same stuff/creators all the time?
THE BEST thing MM could do, which they said was the long game for Dreams (but they seem to have abandoned all goals with Dreams) was allow creators to sell, export, etc. beyond dreams. They should partner with the PSstore so creators can sell their "Dream" directly on the PSstore which would download some kind of backdoor version of Dreams. This would put it in line with things like Steam. A monetary value, even if selling the "dream"/game for $1 would reward and put pressure on good content. IT ALSO gets people playing dreams without committing to the whole game. It's win-win.
So much wasted potential here. MM is driving me nuts.
Creators will do their own work and advertise their dream/game if it's available on PSstore for ANYONE, not just those with dreams, which would help the huge advertising issue which MM and PS haven't been doing a good job of. It then advertises Dreams as MANY things, not one singular thing, which is exactly what it is. I wish I had a direct line to MM...
Some very valid comments and suggestions. Interestingly in their own way looks like Mm will be looking into the assets they announced yesterday Dreams shaping page is going to be transformed and have more citation
I really want to create something but controling with Dualshock without keyboard and mouse is awful.
And i don't have much time to search in pile of shit to find something to play
Thanks for your nice videos. You know, just by way of helping outsiders who want to get into playing Dreams (as opposed to just creating), I suggest making a video advertising the Dreamers who do content curation. I spend most of my time creating, but personally I felt like after following Dreamers like The Tenia, Ladylex, and OcularFixation it became a lot easier to enjoy playing too. It's nice to be able to pick games by genre or release period. Cheers!
Thank you for the lovely comment unrulycat! Sometimes it’s hard enough getting people to watch content made about original, I think a video on curation lacks mass appeal (unfortunately!). Media Molecule need to step their game up when it comes to curation. They’re new team members are putting in the work but collection in Dreams are disgustingly undiscoverable.
Nice, I appreciate you showing off Happy Jack.
You're welcome Dino, Happy Jack remains one of our absolute favourites :)
@@UglySofaGaming Thanks, that's awesome to hear. I have a few work in progress games going on right now, none of them quite as big as Happy Jack but hopefully still fun to play through.
Today the player count was less than 2000 😔.
To be fair that is consistent, if we’re talking about player online at any given moment. It’s been 1000+ mostly in 2021 - but this time last year it was frequently dipping into less than a 1000 so it has grown a bit. MM vaguely said there will be big drops which naturally increase in the activity again, I’m guessing multiplayer and hopefully other stuff so I don’t think they’re overly concerned as long as things are still being consistently made which they are tbf
Media molecule should not be suprised that most people are not artistic professional game developers.....
If thats all they leaning to is community creations.. they will decline.
The only thing that can help is if they, themselfs upload a professional made lengthly stage perhaps once a month, with added materials, stickers, characters etc like in little big planet.. to keep people coming back.
You’re not wrong. Dreams is dying for a story expansion (A LittleBigPlanet themed one would be money) and Arts Dream was not what Dreams needed sadly.
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That is the reason I want Dreams to stick around, one of the reasons I want to get a ps5 is just to play Dreams and see creations like this come to fruition
I wonder if Elca has a end goal or if just intends to keep expanding it, I couldn’t imagine what his next project would be
I don't think the name 'Dreams' helps it either.
It's a bit off-putting when I mention it to dudes, but then when I call it an "3D engine" the reaction swiftly changes.
"Dreams" as a name is not very...I dunno...macho.
"Dreams Engine", maybe?
Ikr. The game's concept and design direction are at a conflict; the menu, music, and art direction is directed at little kids while the tools have potential to make some very advanced stuff. If the game had a minimalistic and streamlined user interface and they removed the "imps", people would take it more seriously, also a filter to filter out all the dumb crap that gets published in the game. But I get it, the same way Little Big Planet made me passionate about creating stuff, they want to make it possible for a new generation of kids to experience the same thing. I still think the UI needs an overhaul because I don't think even kids like it, it's just not as compelling as LBP was. Honestly I hope someone takes the idea of Dreams and makes a better, free to play game for PC. only then we will see the full potential of what Dreams could have been.
Underrated comment. I don’t think the branding has been great since day one. PS5 version would be a great chance to update it, Dreams is a terrible word for seo I think
Yeah LBP was firmly aimed at a younger audience, I wish Dreams had gone older. It seems to lack the mass appeal and older creators can be off put or limited
It was Bill Gates who coined the phrase "Content is king."
I think there’s still room for the best creators to grow (especially if they do do a PS5 upgrade) but I’m of the opinion the content available today makes the cheap price of Dream instantly worth it. It’s really such a steal. Things are going to get even better but the outside game communities need to believe and engage
I just recently got a PS4 and found dreams in a retro game shop I've always wanted to try my hand at game creation, it'll definitely take some time to get use to how the game handles. From what I've seen out of dreams already is nothing short of amazing
That's awesome! Hope you enjoy :)
Great video, very well put together with all the editing and subjects. Glad it sparked a lively discussion. Thank you, thank you to others who help the community and also initiative discussions, such as LadylexUK and Intrattackout.
I pretty much agree with everything in this video, I think for the long-term there's gotta be a way to sell creations hopefully game and 3d model export, the reason roblox and minecraft are so big is multiplayer, creation and the fact there's money to be made.
But you can’t create the levels on the actual console like this. You have to do it on a pc
@@GoldenQ9 I think it's needed to be on PC for while now, that would help extremely.
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Dreams PS4 is NOT Dying...But It Does Have Some Issues
Why does Dreams PS4 attract such negativity in enthusiast gaming communities? Is it justified, ignorance, or is at problem Sony Playstation and Media Molecule need to address?
We prove beyond a shadow of a doubt there are fun games to play in Dreams RIGHT NOW and speculate on what's causing this perception issue.
Finally Dreams has found modest success as a retail release but gamers still in doubt need to open their minds to the possibility of how Dreams can evolve as a live service game...we hint towards what that could mean.
This is such a huge topic, we really wan't hear what you guys think, lets have a health debate and discuss!
I've spent thousand+ hours in creating and as unique of an experience it is and probably revolutionizing the way games can be made, I have to say it's kinda reaping from it's own failures.
-I didn't realize I'd type this much and realized it looks like a tangent but they're there to add weight to my points.-
1) Accessibility has been mentioned a bit in the comments, but MM's obsession with motion controls being the only way to truely make dreams was a huge turn off for those who knew what dreams was about. (Have they not learned from the hate nintendo gets?) Anything you can do with the controller or motion+ can be done much easier/effectively with mouse and keyboard support, except maybe sculpting with motion+ but that's a niche point as not everyone (very few percentage) is use to sculpting on a professional level to take advantage of it's potential. The friend who told me about dreams quit after a month because he couldn't stand the motion controls, it's apathetic to say that people who don't like motion controls are being ignorant or should just get use to it everyone is wired differently.
2) Tutorials are terrible, I'm not sure why MM hasn't comeback to the tutorials (maybe they have simce i last played) or thought the ones added were good enough, lbp2 tutorials were great, explained what you needed to know for each gadget and you go at your own pace. Dreams tutorials teach like their demographic a bunch of toddlers, which wouldnt be the worst if they proceeded to make more in-depth tutorials to follow up to let it all sink. Some of 5he most useful gadgets are never adressed and the tutorial s barely dive into the new concepts that dreams introduces with what makes it so good. 'Oh heres a box with a box in a box with a hat in it good luck LUL.' arguments could be made that it's up to the olayer to learn if they want to imorove but when the tutorial says "goodjob you learned the basics of making a puppet" it implies you learne dwhat you needed when you actually just missed how significant groups in drems are. The lack of online documentation on top of the vauge tutorials leaves the player completely lost.
The least they could have done was have a wall of text that explains what every gadget does and what quirks make it unique. If you try to look up everything a signal manipulator does you only get a quarter of what it's uses are. It seems the goal was not to overload the player with information but by doing so they left them unprepared and feeling left out.
3) The bugs and backtracking. Trying to retain a player base by adding features all while so many bugs that STILL haven't been fixed is very painful.
4) when you miscalculate what you want to accomplish and find out you have to start over from scratch because the way dreams works from common scenario's, these will turn off a new player from pushing through and solving the matter at hand. I'm not talking about game development that need to be re done to make a better game. Dreams heavily punishes a developer for not working backwards from the very beginning a game which thrives from experimenting with what works from moment to moment. If this game was targeting hardcore players this wouldn't be too big of a deal. But that is in itself why less people play.
I've seen arguements against this point, that in real game development this happens all the time. I've used other game making software before, they have systems in place that if something doesn't work out how you planned, you can fix it without ripping apart the entire project.
Dreams for most players has been a dream crusher. And I'm not talking about my personal experience only, I have watched countless streams after dreams was released of streamers trying to make a game, these isssues are what made them give up or quit. If you want a game to be played by more people how long will you blame the consumer before you look at your own faults.
You really can do so much in dreams but to expect people to put up with the abusive issues to reap that benefit is questionable
Your comments are on the tutorials are something I can’t agree more with. The reason why we’re making a game like Project Fool with only remixable assets and logic is because learning everything is too big a time sink and there’s no easy reference. MM covered the basics and did seem to expect people to just figure it out. One of the top recommendations is to just play with logic and see what happens, that’s not how I learn I need set instructions and MM doesn’t offer them and the community tutorials vary in quality. A more complete compendium of the tutorials was a must and it is something they hopefully will improve.
Agree about the tutorials. More effort, more coverage, more clarity should have gone into them from the start.
The problem with the way people are defending Dreams, is that they're taking their own personal feelings into account. I see so many comments here talk about how much they love the game and spend so much time playing it, and how there are so many amazing levels. That's all fine and good....but it's not enough.
The problem with Dreams was marketing.
The release was a mess. It was released under the radar, to content creators at first... as early access. Which ok, I understand, it makes sense. Lets get some levels made before they release the entire game with no community levels. But the way it was handled. It was sort of done out of nowhere. And I remember when looking up information about the game (when it was in early access) about it's release date... it said it wasn't released or out at all. But i seeing stuff about it? How do I get to play it? How are some people playing and I can't? There wasn't much explanation online about it. So I just out it out of my mind. Then at one point, I thought about the game again and found out it was "fully" released??? I was so confused by how it was released and the information about it. The marketing and advertising for the game was atrocious.
The trailers, commercials and ads are terrible. 99% of the ads basically go one of two ways.
1: It's a 3 minute video that shows 10 second clips of a lot of different levels.
2: It's a 3 minutes video that shows 1 level that's incomplete.
There's no meat in any trailers. All they ever show are concepts to levels or short clips to levels that take 2-4 minutes to beat. Even as of today, that's what we're seeing. It MIGHT not be so bad, if they didn't purposely release early access to avoid this. But when I see a trailer for a video game, I want to see fully realized ideas. I'm not going to go out and buy a video game just to play concept/incomplete levels.
I've said this FROM THE BEGINNING (this isn't hindsight), I don't understand why they didn't just make LittleBigPlanet 4, and gave the game all these same create tools. The game would probably be thriving right now.
Sackboy: A Big Adventure has received bigger recognition.
Also, when you have to title a video "......is NOT Dying", then whatever you write before that is most likely probably dying lol. It's sad, but true. I for one am extremely sad about it. I remember seeing previews for the game and getting super hyped and excited about it. The problem is that all the previews I saw...... I'm basically still seeing the same things.
Early Access / Launch definitely could have gone better. Marketing was and is poor.
But that’s external factors the community can’t control. It doesn’t change the fact that Dreams is amazing. It doesn’t change the fact Dreams is still receiving constant support as a live service game, Media Molecule is rapidly expanding and there’s clearly a future roadmap.
I have to entitle a video like this with the key words “Dreams dying” because it’s the only way to get any external attention I wanted to show off all the great things in Dreams because there such a terrible perception and it’s based more upon decisions the suits have made rather than the game or devs which is daft
I have so many ideas for dreams, I just find it a bit hard to look at (it’s super blurry at edges on standard PS4)
I just got back into it, so maybe I’ll push past that
Dreams: Average 1,000 concurrent players, which is less than 1% of those who bought the game.
Roblox: I can't relate.
Shout to happy Jack. It pretty amazing and I’ll be seeing it through to the end.
When I heard of what dreams finally was going to be…I immediately thought that it was going to be revolutionary. That said, I’m in my 40’s and I’ve been around gaming since the beginning. I had a feeling that the whole “remake and half baked trash” would be the first incarnation of dreams’ “influence” on the eyes looking in from the outside. Not specifically, but this video is what I’ve been waiting on to jump into the venue of dreams. You might think that’s not very supportive of something I had faith in, but then I’d tell you I have a pretty demanding life. Emotionally, physically, and time. I was only going to be able to put so much effort into it. I don’t like doing things half assed. So, I’ll be buying dreams as soon as I finish this reply with dreams of becoming a creator, reporter of good creations like this channel, or even a curator.
Glad to hear you’re jumping on board! Welcome to Dreams and welcome to our channel!
I am new at this game I addicted it this game is a masterpiece 👌it will develop you in designing and you will have fan with playing creations when the online multiplayer add in this game it will be huge .
Welcome to the community and our channel Apex! I really hope multiplayer does great things for Dreams like so many expect
never heard of it prolly will never play but i hope it doesent die
Welcome to the channel Jacob 🙂 Media Molecule have said there are upcoming “big” updates which they expect to create peaks for activity and with their expansion I’ve got no fear of Dreams future for the foreseeable future at least. Even if you don’t buy Dreams I hope you find our channel interesting at least!
I know how this is, I have dreams and I believe in this game, but I know how it feels with people that doesn't even know what are they talking about, but still say something will die or has no content, well I Have VR too, and it's the same for that, VR has plenty of amazing games but people still say has no content and it will die
Dreams is Playstations secret weapon when it comes to VR. PSVR2 is going to be nuts on Dreams
100% True. Now to get people to watch this.
If you could pull that off Stump I’d be very grateful 😅
Dude... I've forgotten that dreams existed. It's been ages, a year or two since I've even thought about that name and game
We’ve just had DreamsCom this week and the quality of creations just keeps improving. It’s a different experience from when it launched a year ago in terms of assets, games and creations
I think Dreams could benefit from a few things, yes a ps5 re-release with a new "brand rejuvenating message" via advertising that paints this game as the solid live service and vast powerful creation toolkit and plenty of gameplay experiences that are all user generated that it is...
Also a few psvr RUclipsrs have been talking about the possibility of the ps5 version coinciding with the release of the psvr2, and that they may also bring back Playstation Home through dreams, giving people their own completely customizable space that you can invite others and also a plethora of other ideas with a vr community center (like the mall) people could visit.
And I know this may be controversial, but I think it could really benefit from a PC port as well, with cross play to Playstation (on a side note please while your at it Sony make the psvr2 compatible with PC as well just saying...). IMO console exclusives are just booty at this point nobody cares to move to a specific console over an exclusive game people care about the hardware and their personal preference to the user experience. These companies are just choking out the studios by not allowing their titles to flourish across the market. Xbox I think is doing a great job with gamepass by making that available on multiple platforms/devices, and I say that as someone who has never owned an Xbox!
Thanks for the detailed comment Alex that was an interested read lot of good points. I think Dreams is going to have a big presence on PSVR2 as well - a lot of the Dreams community doesn’t think so because reaction was so muted for PSVR Dreams - but PSVR is going to be much more current and a tweaked Dreams could be a killer app.
Man, I bought this game this week. I REALLY want to start making levels and characters but it's so not user friendly!! I'm using my controller and I've rage quite while "making" a level or character so many times. Driving me nut!
Best practice is to start really small. If you try and learn everything at once it’ll drive you bonkers. Start really, really small like 5 minute game tops. You’ll be able to use community assets to help a lot. What sort of things are you interested in making?
@@UglySofaGaming I'm a sculpter so I want to create busts and characters. I just want to experiment and make fun environments. I used the community stamps, but that seemed to take up so much space on my level. I made a tiny island but I ran out of space? How do people make huge levels?? Thanks for helping me!
Some creators won’t have considered size when sharing/optimising. Quick tips: as you’re creating turn the thermo info on (it’s an under on the button that looks like an eye) then when you search community assets it will give you an idea of how expansive they are helping you to make smarter choices. There’s also a “detail” tool you can use to make items less costly by reducing detail. Good thing about being a sculpture is once you learn how to create in an optimised way you’ll be able to make efficient environments to your taste where as I have to pick and choose carefully what I use. If you spend more time sculpturing and doing environmental design you could lean on community assets for something else like logic or gameplay mechanics
Very very late to this, but as a dreams creator with over 1000 followers, it is hard to find motivation to continue developing the game I am working on, knowing that many probably won't see it.
We have a vide planned this year for how to get more people to play your creations but there’s a hard limit you hit fast with the current player base. It’s such an odd question but what sort of player count would you get satisfaction from?
@@UglySofaGaming Well even though my follower count is high (much higher than it should be lol), it seems most people don't play my creations anymore, as it is rare for most of my games to get past 100 likes (which is far less than before). But then again I've changed my content a bit and the people who originally followed may not be a fan of my newer content?
Maybe - what did you switch to and from?
@@UglySofaGaming Less funny stuff and more serious stuff, like music
I do not own dreams, to be fair I completely forgot it existed by the time it got released and since I never heard of it afterwards I somehow stumbled upon it now in 2022.. I feel bad for missing out cos I know the feeling of playing those extremely polished creations that feels amazing like when I play little big planet levels.
It's something else, it's no AAA games but sometimes feels a lot better than them because you can tell the effort and love and care put into them and it's a whole different feeling than finishing horizon for instance. Sadly I missed out on dreams, kinda hoping for dreams 2 maybe on PS5 to jump in, but we'll see.. Sad that people are actually wasting their time flaming a game they don't care about for no other reason than being a mean asshole to be fair.
Yeah I've seen plenty of videos discussing game creation engines and dreams never even gets a honorable mention. I was starting to get the feel that most people have dismissed it already.
People sleeping on Dreams are going to wake up with a headache 🙃
@@UglySofaGaming lol I love that. Love your videos overall as well. Keep it up!
@@blaccsheep9272 Thank you dude we will!
Most of those videos are for people who want to monetize their game. Dreams got dismissed due to that reason alone. Most would rather take their time learning other creation software that can be monetized.
And people keep pushing for it...and I can see it happening one day for Dreams, maybe, but we’re a very long way off
I can imagine the problem is that most creators are aiming for big complex games, Like I am. the logic is tricky to do and takes a lot of trial, error and time. I'm still putting the character together and I'm gonna have to make combat, crafting tables, codex's stores, etc.
People going for big complex Dreams is another huge conversation. I love the moxy of it, but people shooting to make a “AAA”’game will drive themselves insane though l. If Dreams does “evolve” like I predict in this video creators who put the time into to make these massive games may reap the benefits but there’s a lot of ifs!
@@UglySofaGaming your not wrong. for the longest time I went nuts just trying to figure out animated weapon switching. I figured it out but it took lots of techniques before I got it working right. I'm almost done with the weapon logic now I just have to finish it and do UI stuff. much easier.
@@UglySofaGaming I've been working on a grand theft auto inspired game set in my hometown for a year now and I'll admit i might have already gotten insane. I've had to reconfigure the map atleast 5 times due to thermo limits. I cancelled the story for various complications.
@@UglySofaGaming For people new to making games they should consider creating a small and simpler games to learn from before making pursuing "AAA" quality style games.
Tying the gadgets to gameplay thermo was a misstep, imo. Logic should have its own thermo. They also have to deal with a real soul-crusher of an issue and that is throttling people with more powerful hardware so that vanilla PS4 users dont get left behind. They would have been far better off pushing release back to PS5 launch and spending the extra year optimizing for the hardware upgrade. If that were the case, you'd probably be able to stuff 3-5 times more logic into a scene. Although, a lot of things that happened in the dev cycle are kind of head-scratchers in hindsight.
been looking for a music production game for a while, played the demo, can't make music on it, is it worth getting, I want to make jungle/DnB tracks
I can’t really speak to the music making never tried it myself but there’s a whole sun community in dreams based around the audio tools so there must be something to it!
The problem with dreams is that almost nobody wants to play a short, non-multiplayer slightly unpolished game within a game. Even though these creators are extremely talented, it can’t come close to other real game experiences created by a professional team. Why would anybody play gothic scythe when you can play dark souls. Or why would anybody play call of the battlefront instead of COD, or ommy kart instead of Mario kart. That is the real problem
I think it would be cooler of M.M. ported dreams to different platforms. Such examples are Xbox and PC ports and then have cross platform multiplayer. I think they game would be a bit more popular with more platforms to play it on. 🤔
A bit more, but I think Sony and MM need to work on getting the people Dreams is already available for more interested in playing it. Once you solve that problem and Dreams is a more desirable product porting to other platforms becomes much more profitable!
It's basically RUclips for games. don't know why it's not on every ps4/5.
No good way for PlayStation to monetise it
Its the lack of marketing and no online multiplayer to boost sales. Dreams could be easily marketed by Sony, showing people’s creations and whatsoever. I don’t know why Sony isn’t giving this game any attention, I know if this was in the ps3 era this game would’ve been all over the place. But now times have changed now sadly. I hope this game gets the credit it deserves and it reaches a good amount of players
It’s sad that in all of Sony’s “regular” State of Play updates Dreams has not once had a look in fora bit of promotion
I think about this a lot and I still feel like Dreams is missing some secret sauce. I think the UI needs major changes, and without multiplayer Dreams remains a hard sell. Singleplayer games are not dying, but it's becoming increasingly harder to justify playing hit or miss games on your own when you could have fun with friends. I don't know if you guys played LBP before Dreams, but Dreams definitely feels like a cold, isolated experience in comparison.
Even though I create a lot in Dreams I myself funnily enough am one of those players who almost exclusively plays AAA games, and often can't get into Dreams ones. I don't need AAA games made in Dreams, but I do want to see more AAA (or I guess professional indie) level controls and responsiveness. A lot of games in Dreams, well made or not, suffer from floaty controls, janky animations, unbalanced difficulty and questionable hit detection (not saying mine don't!). While there are still plenty of responsive and quality games in Dreams, very few of them have ever gotten me hooked for some reason. For my ''aquired taste'' :) there isn't a system seller yet, that I love so much that I think it's worth buying Dreams for. Might just be because my preference for genre, story driven third/first person shooters, is one of the harder ones to get right in Dreams. For those who love horror and puzzle games, buying Dreams is probably a no-brainer.
It was a missed opportunity not to include LBP in with Dreams. They had a built it community that could’ve been built off of. Having the lighter easier creation tools of LBP would keep a lot more of the casual gamers involved and filled the void
@@MrMpa31 Mm were in quite a difficult position with Dreams. I love how much depth Dreams has and wouldn't want that depth to be sacrificed, but at the same time I miss that more playful physics based nature of creating in LBP. It might help if Dreams had more templates (characters, vehicles, general logic) and some sort of playground levels, so you can immediately start having fun with the create tools instead of starting with an empty scene every time.
@@intrattackout Nothing needed to be sacrificed, they could’ve had both
I'm a new dreamer I am currently working on many good projects. Dreams have really good potential to make outstanding games
Awesome Waavy, what are you working on?
I want to get this and make my own game but I want multi-player to be a thing
MM are still working on Multiplayer, I just hope its soon!
Mm has never been good about responding to problems no matter how big the problem gets.
Back in the LBP days they NEVER fixed the flood of copied levels despite how many people left as a result.
I do think that much of it falls onto us the community for promoting it.
Though I admit it is very disheartening to know that if you can’t produce super top tier content you are doomed to the realm of obscurity. I’ve spent so much of this time on my film series just so I could tell a story that’s been in my head since 2017 and to have not a single person watch the later chapters unless I post it in a community jam is a bit of a motivation killer for me.
I like dreams it's got a lot of good horror games it's just hard to find all the good games if you don't know what they're called. People are just haters and talk smack but I like some games in dreams more than games I buy in the ps store
8:57 what is this scene with the dragon?
Dragon Hunting by Solid1156 -
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@@UglySofaGaming Thanks 😊
Always want to play Dreams but lve never got around to it, gotta get myself from stop playing games with battle passes
One day soon I hope Dorf!
I bought the game on release, learned it a little and created some stuff. But then i realised, i can't go anywhere with this. Why should i dedicate my time and energy to getting better at this program? I switched to learning Blender instead.
Dreams isn't for everyone Beytrod. If you were hoping to use Dreams to make money or break into professional indie games development there are numerous better options. First and foremost (especially this current version) Dreams is a tool for casual creations; to have fun, to stretch a creative muscle, to collaborate, to workshop ideas, to gain the immediate feedback and audience it can provide.
@@UglySofaGaming You're right, it just wasn't what i was looking for. I still check out the creations though, it's amazing what people can do with it!
@@UglySofaGaming That's how I see it! I literally make games for myself and see what I can do. It's fun to me.
So here's an idea I whould like to see in a mid term to distant future of the dreams engine:
A dedicated Dreams Pro version that cuts out the usual dreamiverse and makes it a fully dedicated development engine exclusive to PSN offering to monetize your projects.
It whould be free but you whould be obliged to take all the legal responsibilities and hoops of a regular developer including fees and revenue share to sony. This enviroment whould offer you to make validated creation that are all yours.
You could build games to add to PSN or assets to share on a dedicated content marketplace for Dreams Pro. BUT all assets you whould make for the Dreams Pro marketplace whould also be released to the regular Dreams for free. Offering to test and play around with them before adding them to your projects and offering the hobbiest and recreational developers quality content. Also you could import your Dreams Pro game to Dreams and cut it down to a Demo or an early access version to gather feedback before release.
So the idea is to evolve Dreams further into the professional tool it deserves to be while keeping and sustaining the regular version as the wonderful playground it already is.
Wouldn't that be a win on all fronts?
Dreams Pro/Licensing is literally something we suggested near the end of our Dreams 10 Year Plan video 🙂
What game is that 19:03?
Gothic Sycthe 20 minute action game with two levels and two boss fights and multiple difficulty settings to conquer
I don't understand why this is called a bad game when imo even calling it a game is a bit stupid, this is an incredibly powerful creative tool that has infinite potential
i recreated space harrier arcade using full pixel sprites, dreams is awesome.
I love dreams for what it is. But my preconceived notions from my friends hyping it were far from the actual product. It's great for hobbyist or those who aren't ready to take the plunge and try to publish a game.
This retail version is exactly that yeah, for hobbyists. People who aren’t creative don’t understand why anyone would “work” in Dreams for no monetary incentive. At the same time there’s clearly a lot of people that got Dreams wanting to monetise and there’s just zero indication of any commitment that would ever happen...I think one day it will happen but no in this retail version of the game. “Dreams” is a retail game/platform - what I hint at in the video is if Playstation wanted they could easily turn Dreams one day into an engine people can license and export or some other package which might be appealing to creators who want to make a professional project. But in 2021 I can’t in good conscience recommend a wanna be professional developer Dreams as a tool for anything other than a tool to have fun with, experiment, workshop and maybe learn some design principles.
@@UglySofaGaming The guy in the video who looks like where's Waldo, he stated before the EA release that they would love to allow monetization and have something like the unity store.
I love dreams it's one of my most played games the only complain I have is the lack of online multiplayer and the thermometer
here's my best explanation for the thermo limits.
as you're probably familiar, the game uses flecks. each fleck is individual, and each fleck is a plane with a texture attached. now imagine how many polygons are in a high detail scene. i think that's why thermo is so limiting at the moment.
I have just watched this and 100% agree because dreams is amazing but it is underrated and bearly anyone's talks about it anymore and even when I first played there loads of memes and more memes but now, if you were to go on dreamsurfing now there would great games for you with touch of button to enjoy. And if more youtubers and people in general recognised this it would be brilliant.
Also I love your channel!
That I agree dreams need more creations because it gets boring searching up same thing over and over again 😴
Sony LOST so much money on this, but they still continue to support MM BECAUSE its so unique and such a special 'Playstation' only thing. It does need Online Multiplayer though...
I hope dreams comes to PC. Online multiplayer would be great too. Having gotten the game last week, I think my issue with a lot of the games are that they're all really short and shallow games (from what I've tried out). Seeing how Core games has been developing their platform and the constant updates, it's kinda sad to see how little updates dreams gets. Hoping the best for the game though. I also think the game should be free to play like Core and Roblox.
Oh and monetization incentives for dream level creators, which would incentivize users to create longer, more in depth games, getting players to stay longer in their games.
Welcome to Dreams and to our channel Benjamin! Glad to have you on side 😄
Great video as always. “It’s only the beginning” is what Mm keep saying and I believe in them. Things can and are, constantly evolving. At one point it just needs a massive push from Sony and Mm. But it needs a lot of work and they really need to work on the things that the community keep saying are needed. So many things that seem to me that should be very simple fixes and many people have brought up, but they’re still the same since beta 🤷🏻♂️
I love Mm to bits and the biggest fanboy, but doesn’t mean I see no wrong with the game or the way it’s being run.
Also I want to see more things to keep people coming back to Dreams. Jams are a good start, but so much more can be done
Dreams needs multiplayer
Hopefully you’ll get good news this year
This was a very well made video, you are not just a nice little content player after all you have some bite ha ha ha although I agree with most of the things you said but I also disagree with some of it too
I don't even play video games but if I did I would play Dreams.
The perception that there is nothing worth playing in Dreams is likely because it is almost impossible to find the games worth playing. Unless you know exactly what you are looking for, Dreams isnt going to help you find anything.
Im very new to Dreams and i see a huge potential, but frustrated for sure.
This is interesting because I touch on the video the homepage is much better than it used to be. Are you still having problems finding interesting stuff to play recently?
@@UglySofaGaming “Much better” is still awful. No easy way to categorize by game type. You see thumbnails but hovering doesn’t give you a clue if it is a game, a walking scene, a meme, or whatever. You need to open each one individually. The MM “recommends” are the same every time I log on and seem not to have any bearing on my preferences. I find good games because of RUclipsrs, definitely not from MM
The Dream Surfing homepage needs a complete redesign with a focus on discoverability. It needs tabs with categories. It needs easier scrolling with more than 1 line on the screen. It needs tags that tell the user what something is before opening it. It needs personalization and filters.
@@MrMpa31 I wholeheartedly agree.
People are mad about the next gen update? Most people cant even get into next gen.
The people that have managed to are indeed itching for it, I hope supply issues get better for the people waiting soon
I just wish they would give us an option to download levels and save them in a playlist for later.. i hate that internet is needed to access like 90% of the game.. i dont mind connecting online to look for new content to play. Just want it accessible for later. Games like mario maker 2 do this on switch. Why cant Dreams??
Dreams as a concept is brilliant... but lets be honest... the quality of the games made In dreams aren’t really much better than something you’d see In a free browser game...
So we gotta ask ourselves, “would the average gamer like playing short, Amateur-made games on a Ps4/ps5? Especially when psnow exists...?”
So yes dreams is Nice... but the Lack of professionally made (Mm) assets is really poor. And we gotta stop beating around the bushes and stop lying to ourselves about the quality of the games In dreams...
They are not appealing to the general public... and it actually surprises me that Mm spend almost a decade making an engine with such weak thermos.
And then people wonder, “why did everyone go?”
Hopefully Dreams+ (PS5) Will be a complete gamechanger with high-end assets and other components that make the games look like something that wasn’t made for a PS1/2
I disagree as far as what you think about the quality issues. There’s certainly a lot of stuff not above browser games but I think we’ve got to the point where there is a very health choice of fun quality games that go past the list in this video. You can’t find something like Happy Jack free online. We can’t judge Dream on its total output I think but the with the value is does provide for a very low price point.
That being said - I think what you’ve said about PS Now is on the money. That, game pass, ps plus, games with gold, massive frequent digital discounts. Games have far less value than when I was a youngster l, there’s so much free content or stuff available for very cheap and that definitely eats into the appeal of Dreams. A game that spawns infinite games would have been MONEY on PS1 and PS2 and even was on PS3.
More professional content packs from MM, wrapped up in a story expansion (LBP themed pack anyone) would put a lot of eyes back on Dreams for sure
I agree.. When I look at a good game in dreams I am like "wow! That's pretty good for a dreams game!" Hell even the main guy in MM that left recently stated he hated flecks but the art team wanted that painterly look. I agree with him. I hate the flecks.
One of the biggest criticisms one of my friends who doesn’t play Dreams is he hates the fleck graphics. Was it Alex Evans who said this I missed this news?
@@UglySofaGaminghere it is at about 21:00
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I have always wanted to play dreams, but I am a pc gamer so I am just hoping it gets a port to steam because the second it is I am playing it.
To further elaborate. I love dreams, but every other game on Playstation 4 except bloodborne looks bad so if I got a ps4 it would just be a dreams machine and so I would rather just wait for it to be ported.
I’m lucky in that PlayStation has always been my console of choice. I cross my fingers one day for a PC port so more people can join the Dreams community, but I think we need a native PS5 version first
Spider man miles morales, marvels spider man, god of war,little big planet 1,2 and 3 along with sackboy a big adventure, do i need to say more?
@@spider-man7482 Yes because I don't like any of those except Little Big Planet 1 and 2, but I played Little Big Planet 1 and 2 on ps3 so I saw no point in getting them on ps4.
@@UsingGorillaLogic 😐
@@spider-man7482 ps3 had tokyo jungle, it had Twisted Metal, I also was able to get the digital versions of war of the monsters and tomba 2 which I lost and those are both some of the best games ever made, it had Fat Princess. All the new ones are hollywood movies woth extra steps and hollywood makes the worst movies I can just watch Team Fabulous 2 for the 500th time.
The persistent idea there's nothing of quality in dreams comes from the fact that worthwhile creations must be dug in deep to discover. I wouldn't even call the failure of curation MM's fault either, as you explained what drove clicks and what didn't. Goes back to Sony failing to recognize what they held.
I once streamed hopping from game to game for friends who didn't own dream to watch. Played several hours of titles. They WANTED to see more but simply couldn't unless I streamed or they were able to Ninja their way through the internet algorithm to find something. It wasn't as black and white as "I need a triple A title", it was merely people only uploaded remakes and jokes. As you stated yourself, it was the first thing you saw even when you logged on as an owner of the game. Now if the people who gave dreams a chance and got past the paywall got burned by the memes, there's no way in hell others are gonna have better luck.
Icing on the cake is you can call dreams a live service game, which may as well be industry speak for "good content will arrive later." It's difficult to change your reputation once it sets in. Dreams has the monumental task of doing this, seemingly through word of mouth alone.
This lack of exposure to the content is what contributes to dreams negative perception, and what results in players not being willing to experiment. I'm glad MM isn't giving up on dreams and I'm glad their numbers are showing growth. Dreams is fantastic and it doesn't deserve to be forgotten so quickly.
They need to make a better way to make water and glass
Dreams has to much potential. It only gets better from here.
The unfortunate reality is that people these days are so used to triple A experiences like spiderman and god of war etc. People dont want to make. They wanna play. And sonys triple A titles do this. So to consumers and players, thats what they want. Its sad.. but the reality we are in..
I bought it when it was new thinking I could remake one of my old favorites azrik it's Xbox original and it's pretty out dated so I thought I could remake it, but I didn't have a vr head set or the wands so making it with a controller was so hard and I gave up after making the character model because I didn't think I could finish it.😂😅👍
Does anyone think that there's any truth to the leak that Dreams Plus is the PS5 upgrade and it is coming out July 29th? It seems plausible to me, but leaks are often bullshit so I don't know. I HOPE it's true though.
I think its completely wishful thinking. There’s no source for it and people are just trying to guess E3 lists. Would love to proved wrong, and I’m sure eventually Dreams will see something like Dreams+ but as of yet there’s nothing to get hype about
@@UglySofaGaming I like to keep an open mind but you're probably right. I still think its only a matter of time before Sony and Media Molecule announce something regarding a PS5 upgrade. The VR update was less than a year after release, so judging by the release pattern, the PS5 upgrade can't be that far away. I mean, what else could MM be working on at the moment?
@@UglySofaGaming I’m still really hopeful of Dreams+ being a thing and possibly even being released soon.
DreamsCom21 is 2 days before that 29th date. They did the big Dreams VR reveal at the end of the first DreamsCom. They’re constantly saying people can’t do streams atm as they’re extremely busy atm and in a tone that implies things are coming. A couple of things happened the day of the “leak” and Mm employees blatantly were told to take things down on Twitter and Twitch.... Also absolutely radio silence from all after that. If it was untrue, surely they could deny it 😉🤔
I missed the reaction to the “leak” but that is a little interesting. Was the 29th the rumoured date of a Sony show? I would love to see it but after companies like Gorilla and Naughty Dog were so slow upgrading their games to next gen, I’ve lost a little faith that the next gen version of Dreams is soon. It’ll come but I think not for a while and maybe MP is finally ready. Seriously hope I’m wrong, a rebrand like Dreams+ would be awesome as well
@@UglySofaGaming I think it’s more likely the other way around. The PS5 version with possibly some more bells and whistles in the graphics department and more thermo, maybe even 60 FPS logic for Dreams+/PS5 seems like an easier thing to release. Also loads of the new jobs they’ve been trying to fill have been about multiplayer. So I feel they’re still struggling to get multiplayer to work.
Lmao the most advertisement dreams ever got was when pewds played it
while i agree that the game has potential, the problem of this video is that you find those creators levels to be very good. Listen man, don't lie to yourself, they are very impressive due to the fact that they were made by a person using a controller, but they are far from being good games, those levels are mediocre at best. None of those levels even come close to the quality of the main level (media molecule's). You commented about the fps game. Dude, why would i play a game like that when i can play cod or any better fps game out there? If someone have any interest in dreams, it'll be because of the unique levels that they can play with their friends for fun, no one is interested in starting a level, but actually it's not a level, it's a stupid meme with reused assets from someone else, or a walking simulator where you are supposed to just look at how "pretty" the level is. If they want to make this game be big, they have to focus on multiplayer and making the tools easier to use and easier to understand. Multiplayer should have been there since day 1. The way they made the game ended up shortening the audience by half because of these flaws. LBP worked well because it had all of those qualities that is said
Different things just appeal to different people. If you’re only interested in AAA experiences Dreams will never appeal to you.
Why would you ever play Dreams Shooter #4 when you can go and drop £70 on the new Call of Duty?
Because its fun. It can be a novelty. It can be a unique experience. It’s not your desert island game. You’re not signing up to play this Dream for 200 hours while it gouges your wallet.
We made a video with the best games from Dreams in 2021: ruclips.net/video/T7RKmpLPdAE/видео.html
Most of the stuff on that list I played for more than an hour, some a lot more. So many of them have held my attention better and gave me a better experience than Arts Dream from Media Molecule. I own 4 LittleBigPlanet games, and after 10 years and millions of community creations I’d struggle to name a single one of them and from my experience there’s a single handful that are worth spending an hour on. Not to say they are bad, to my original point they just don’t appeal to me.
Where as Dreams is a massive variety of different genres and I find actually playing the games on it infinitely more enjoyable. When I play these games is does pop into my head they were made on a controller, not as a detriment or a handicap as you think of it, but I think about how Dreams has opened up pathways for game experiences that never would have existed otherwise.
I never would have made a game without Dreams. It’s awesome I made a horror game and 3000 people have played it, and I’ve got to see some of them jump out of their seats or just enjoy interacting with it.
I like dreams but I cant stand using a controller when in creation mode.
I don't need it on PC but it would of been nice if I could use a USB Mouse and Keyboard for this one.
If you don't like aiming you can always change it to allow you to use your joystick instead of the motion sensor. But If that's not the reason why you dislike it, I don't think there's a fix. 😅
If I may, I'd like to offer only one critique/comment about your style. You are incredibly slow talking. Incredibly slow. Not sure if this is intentional but I would swear this was recorded at 50% speed. Thank you for listening to my critique. I enjoyed your breakdown of Dreams and fully believe, as you do, Dreams isn't leaving us. :)
Media Molecule’s live service team broke their backs this year doing what they could to keep interest going but I’ve got to think a flashier announcement is on its way soon! We’ve got a similar video coming soon and I’ll take your critique to heart - I’m something of a motor mouth usually with a slight lisp so I try to enunciate and probably over did it. Welcome to the channel!
@@UglySofaGaming Thank you so much for your response! I subbed, and am looking forward to your future content!! (PS, Your clarity and enunciation was spot on! Definitely a win there. :)
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