Stargate: Ha'tak Class Goa'uld Mothership | Ship Breakdown

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  • @Spacedock
    @Spacedock  4 года назад +335

    As i'm sure comments to this effect are already flooding in: no the "Thousands of megatons" figure doesn't make sense.
    Though I guess it could be rationalised as some kind of crazy high-yield setting for certain planetary bombardments.
    The real answer is that Stargate's technical info was published by a magazine and is almost always wrong, especially the Tau'ri ship dimensions.
    The info is canon however, and we always publish the canon figures on Spacedock, even if they make no sense.

    • @demogorgonzola
      @demogorgonzola 4 года назад +62

      Could we chalk up the most ridiculous numbers as a Goa'uld propaganda? It would fit with their sense of grandiose self-esteem.

    • @randomrealistictone2231
      @randomrealistictone2231 4 года назад +7

      More EXPANSE ships please!

    • @dianavespid937
      @dianavespid937 4 года назад +2

      Spacedock You know us very well. I was just going to say something.

    • @octaviocuesta1155
      @octaviocuesta1155 4 года назад +1

      I wonder if the UESC Marathon's dimensions and weapons are reasonable. Maybe one day Spacedock will let us know.

    • @ericmadsen9655
      @ericmadsen9655 4 года назад

      Could you do a run down on the GB Ecto-1 and 1-A?

  • @zoro115-s6b
    @zoro115-s6b 4 года назад +311

    *Slaps roof of Ha'tak*
    This bad boy's power level changes so randomly.

    • @GamerM1235
      @GamerM1235 4 года назад +49

      Remember when these things used to be intimidating?
      Me: You mean season 1?
      . . . .

    • @the11382
      @the11382 4 года назад +18

      More like power creep changes.

    • @zoro115-s6b
      @zoro115-s6b 4 года назад +26

      @@ZontarDow And when you do have something to oppose them with, they pop like balloons. Until they're equipped with some random unexplained "upgrade" that makes them invincible again, right up until the plot decrees that they pop like balloons once more.

    • @AsbestosMuffins
      @AsbestosMuffins 4 года назад +16

      @@GamerM1235 hey they were intimidating till at least season 3, it was only season 2 that they tried invading earth with just 2 of them

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 4 года назад +24

      @@zoro115-s6b actually stargate is internally consistent. In the beginning they were pretty strong but their shields could be pierced by Ion weaponry designed by the Asgard and Tolan (who were bowth far more advanced). They became less of a threat over time because the Tau'ri got Asgard technology (and improvements to their Asgard based shields ) at multiple stages in Stargate. The "unexplained" upgrade is actually explained pretty well. Anubis is a near ascended being he simply has a greater understanding of the universe. After that they actually stay a big threat to all ships that Aren't the Asgard O'Neill class or Equipped with Ancient Drone weaponry (well and the Ori Mouthership but that can swat away all others on the list without taking Damage) until the Tau'ri get the OP upgrades in unending.

  • @DrakeAurum
    @DrakeAurum 4 года назад +381

    It protec. It defen. But most importantly, it Hatak.

    • @arenddenooij
      @arenddenooij 4 года назад +18

      you deserve the golden jacket

    • @georgejcox9241
      @georgejcox9241 4 года назад +8

      Well done nice one. 😄😄😄😄😄

    • @vonnshlabbah
      @vonnshlabbah 4 года назад +5

      Well. Done.

    • @Gwolfsoun
      @Gwolfsoun 4 года назад +4

      Ha-thank you for this

    • @LordTalax
      @LordTalax 4 года назад

      Ok, baby words

  • @BadSkeelz
    @BadSkeelz 4 года назад +450

    O'neill: "The Ha'tak class is a warship of intimidation. This,"
    *Points at the BC-304 Daedalus*
    "Is a warship of WAR."

    • @georgejcox9241
      @georgejcox9241 4 года назад +18

      Got that right. And he knows Jack.

    • @tigerbread78
      @tigerbread78 4 года назад +16

      Nice callback!

    • @LordTalax
      @LordTalax 4 года назад +13

      Hatak was waging war when humans were still in primitive tribes.

    • @radioblade5610
      @radioblade5610 4 года назад +9

      @@LordTalax still in a few years of coming onto the galactic stage they Quickly got the tech to build Better warships that best the Ha'tak class. :)

    • @robbypitas620
      @robbypitas620 4 года назад +8

      Except the 304 was basically defenseless against a hatak until they got Asgard beams. Missiles were so useless in that show

  • @rohanhalle580
    @rohanhalle580 4 года назад +158

    Last time I was this early the Goa'uld Empire was still intact.

    • @the11382
      @the11382 4 года назад +2

      Chris George Ascended beings don’t count as people?

    • @the11382
      @the11382 4 года назад +3

      @Chris George 1. Not worms, more ghostlike.
      2.They can stay on their home planet as their choice, no one is there anymore. You have a house, don't you? Need doesn't mean their planet isn't comfortable. Even ascended beings have a location.

    • @Humaricslastcall
      @Humaricslastcall 4 года назад +1

      The last time i was this early, both stargates were still sealed.

  • @UncleMikeDrop
    @UncleMikeDrop 4 года назад +216

    Just imagine how formidable Goa'Uld capital ships would have been if they had not been so fixated on making their technology look like magic.

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 4 года назад +52

      Well the Goa'uld never actually bouilt warships (With the exception of Sokar and the Battleship Apophis designed ) but palaces that doubled as troop transporters and well armed invasion platforms. They are the epitome of actually justifed arrogance because of their numbers and technology advancements. Without the Replicators their empire would have never fallen.

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 4 года назад +19

      @IJN Yamato I get the feeling you didn't read anything but the first part of my first sentences. Ha'taks aren't Warships they are decently armed invasion platform palaces.

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 4 года назад +4

      @IJN Yamato the point is they are not purpose bouilt Warships...

    • @MrAranton
      @MrAranton 4 года назад +5

      @IJN Yamato Tactics from earth can only be applied to the world of Stargate to a certain degree. No ship of any kind can move troops as effectively as the stargate network. Mainly because ships take much more time to travel from one planet to the next. Because of that an invasion platform doesn't need to bring in enough troops to clear out all enemy resistance and occupy a planet, all they need is a strike force capable of securing the stargate as a means to bring further reinforcements that will then finish the job. Trying to establish a beachhead that doesn't contain the planet's stargate would be pointless because reinforcements coming through will always crush whatever invasion force can be brought in by ship. So: a planetary invasion is effectively decided once it's clear which side will own the stargate once the battle is over.
      Now: Keeping the human population in line takes a lot fewer forces than wrestling a planet from the control of another Goa'uld. And since SG-1 gives the vibe that the Goa'uld do not have the ressources to defend all the planets they own against invasion (if they did, SG-teams would run well defended positions whenever they open a wormhole to a goa'uld occupied planet), there are no front-lines on the galactic scales, each Goa'uld world is it's own (more or less) isolated beachhead with the stargate as its only supply line. The Ha'tak's role in this sort of warfare is to provide a way of maneuvering that doesn't involve the stargate-network. I got the impression that - at least for about the first half of Stargate SG-1 no Goa'uld has enough interstellar ships to defend every planet he/she has a presence on. They can't defend everything and (given the speed of a Ha'tak) in order to have a defensive fleet above a planet they'd have to know about an attack months before it happens. So I don't think space battles were not that common when the Ha'tak was designed and the mightiest warship of the Goa'uld. To me it looks more like a carrier/transport/fighting-vessel hybrid than a vessel dedicated to fight other starships.

    • @MrAranton
      @MrAranton 4 года назад +1

      @@khadenallast4495 It seems you're overlooking something: Warfare among the Goa'uld. The main opposition a hatak and the jaffa on board would face are not the comparatively primitive humans on goa'uld owned planets but the jaffa of other goa'uld. Those primitive worlds that cannot support dedicated warriors and don't have technology to rival the goa'uld would be conquered through the stargate, not by sending a Ha'tak.

  • @LordTalax
    @LordTalax 4 года назад +25

    Always loved these ships, even in the later series when they were almost rendered harmless by advancing human tech and bigger powers showing up.

  • @dragonstormx
    @dragonstormx 2 года назад +15

    The Ha'tak was a frightening symbol of the Goa'uld's power when we were first introduced to them. Due to the nature of the show focusing on travel through the Stargate's we did NOT expect to see any ships this fast. The entire conflict with the Goa'uld was changed since now there was a very real threat of them destroying humanity with these ships that could obliterate cities in the blink of an eye that were impervious to 20th century weapons. They weren't the most powerful ships out there, we saw the Asgard Bilskimir ships out classed them, but Earth couldn't count on them coming to our rescue all the time.

  • @TSFCaesar
    @TSFCaesar 4 года назад +7

    the Ha'tak will for ever be among my favorite space vessles simply because of how ingraned into the SG universe it has become!
    After the Goa'Uld fell, it has become available to all with the incentive and power to get one.
    Love this series!

    • @dreamingflurry2729
      @dreamingflurry2729 4 года назад

      Except - dumb - Tau'ri! I mean yeah they may (without upgrades) not be the best ships in the universe, but if you only have 3 ships (Odyssey, the Hammond and the Sun-Tzu) every additional ship (especially if it can carry large amounts of supplies to say Atlantis!) is worth its weight in gold!...So yeah, why they didn't try to get some always irks me!

    • @Not-Ap
      @Not-Ap 3 года назад

      @@piotrd.4850 So capture them from the Lucian Alliance instead. Problem solved.

  • @TheLPRnetwork
    @TheLPRnetwork 4 года назад +67

    wtf i am rewatching stargate RN. what are the odds..
    okay the odds are pretty high. this show is awesome.

  • @loweexpectations3222
    @loweexpectations3222 4 года назад +174

    pre-2017: " Oh that's a pretty unique ship."
    after 2017- " wow...giant fidget spinners; how scary."

    • @steelgreyed
      @steelgreyed 4 года назад +21

      pre-1985 info--- I really wanna see the Borg fight the System Lords, we can call it Rubix's War.

    • @10kanojias
      @10kanojias 4 года назад +4

      Lowe Expectations agreed. With just how much sci-fi movies/games/etc these designs now look a bit stupid

    • @AutismIsUnstoppable
      @AutismIsUnstoppable 4 года назад +8

      @@steelgreyed That would be like watching a gang of chavs with bats beat a bag full of drowning puppies. The system lords would be assimilated in no time.

    • @hlc5410
      @hlc5410 4 года назад +4

      @Lance Salter I can. Here in England we call them the Windsors.

    • @jonreese7066
      @jonreese7066 4 года назад +2

      better than toilet seatship

  • @Cailus3542
    @Cailus3542 4 года назад +91

    As spaceship designs go, the Ha'tak really should be more iconic it is. It's unique in so many ways, and also a perfect symbol of Goa'uld psychology and culture. It's ostentatious, enormous and clearly built for show, not purpose. It has no defined bow or stern, a rather rare aspect of sci-fi ships, but it doesn't have the uniformity or simplicity of flying saucers or a Borg cube. Such a design is inherently inefficient in combat, however. Tau'ri and Asgard warships are explicitly designed for combat, focusing as much firepower forward as possible and improving maneuverability, but the Goa'uld design disperses firepower and shield strength while still having serious weak points.
    Of course, the Goa'uld don't care about that. They're scavengers, not innovators like the Tau'ri and Asgard, so they rarely develop new technology or designs. As a result, the Ha'tak is a rather poor warship, which resulted in the relatively primitive Prometheus being capable of taking them on effectively.
    Still, it's a wonderful design. Whoever came up with this one did a great job.

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 4 года назад +14

      Who are they fighting except each other? They are not going to fight the Asgard, the human populations are slaves they seeded, the Nox are chilling. They don't need a ship focused for war.
      Its a great design, agreed.

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 4 года назад +3

      @IJN Yamato And all that is after the series starts.

    • @Hectonkhyres
      @Hectonkhyres 4 года назад +6

      They are probably best considered mobile star forts and staging grounds. They aren't built so kill ships, though in a pinch they can, so much as just allowing power projection. The Goa'uld didn't have many peers that needed concentrated firepower.

    • @nihilityjoey
      @nihilityjoey 4 года назад +1

      I'd like to understand how you've come to the conclusion they weren't built for war or battle? They have 360 degree fire power that would smoke a Borg cube fairly easily, a hefty compliment of fighters and support craft. Their shields are more than adequate, with only a few races able to beat them. But off track. Why is this ship not designed for battle.

    • @davidlewis5312
      @davidlewis5312 4 года назад +4

      @@nihilityjoey I would disagree with smoking a borg cube (they can't vary their frequency and replicators were able to easily absorb their energy). The only weapon I think that could reliably heavily damage a Borg cube is probably the primary guns of a Mercury class battlestar; you can't adapt to a solid slug the size of your car being hurled at you at subliminal velocities.

  • @weldonwin
    @weldonwin 4 года назад +503

    Go'uld Empire, rules the galaxy for more than 24'000 years, collapses in about seven years because of one nerd translating some symbols

    • @MihzvolWuriar
      @MihzvolWuriar 4 года назад +35

      @Chris George I bet the Tok'ra, Jaffa and even the Lucian Alliance would've accomplished that, the Tauri only made it faster, as it was clearly the Jaffa we're going to revolt soon, this would trigger Tok'ra and Lucian Alliance opps, and I know Lucian Alliance only appeared after the collapse, but they raised in power so fast, do you really believe they were created only them?

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 4 года назад +28

      @Chris George actually the Empire only ever collapsed because of the Replicators which killed most of their fleet (tens of thousands of Ha'tak Motherships) and leaders. Without them and the Tau'ri Sokar would have eventually overthrown Rah as the Supreme System Lord and for an even more powerful empire.

    • @lazy_riveN
      @lazy_riveN 4 года назад +5

      @@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 not "tens of thousands" but just hundreads.

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 4 года назад +6

      @@lazy_riveN Actually it's tens of thousands as shown when they are actually able to track the ships the Replicators took over.

    • @victorselve8349
      @victorselve8349 4 года назад +2

      @Chris George or alternatively they could have lost to Anubis if he had come back and claimed dakara first.
      Or to the Asgard of they somehow managed to win the battle against the replicators.

  • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
    @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 4 года назад +156

    "Through the reigns of many supreme system Lord's" Actually Spacedock there was only ever one fully accepted Supreme System Lord , Rah. Apep who ruled before him was the Emperor and not the Supreme System Lord and Apophis and Anubis were never officially named the System Lord Supreme and Ba'al only became Supreme system Lord by default because he was the last survivor of the council so I'm not sure that counts.

    • @Bean41
      @Bean41 4 года назад +46

      “All system lords in favor of naming Ba’al (myself) as supreme system lord say ay, (looks around at a bunch of empty chairs) very well vote passed unanimously.”

    • @Bean41
      @Bean41 4 года назад +12

      Probably how it happened.

    • @milamberarial
      @milamberarial 4 года назад +25

      @@Bean41 Nope, there would be a full council...of Ba'al clones

    • @Bean41
      @Bean41 4 года назад +1

      milamberarial That’s one way to find the “real” one.

    • @milamberarial
      @milamberarial 4 года назад +4

      @@Bean41 true. The clones tended to be surprisingly loyal.

  • @gundamheavyarms4879
    @gundamheavyarms4879 4 года назад +13

    The Ha'tak is one of my favorite ships in all sci-fi! 😊

  • @psoma_brufd
    @psoma_brufd 4 года назад +30

    Stargate!!! Yes!!! One of my favourite shows ever!!!

    • @lamalien2276
      @lamalien2276 4 года назад

      WHY!?!?!?!?!

    • @psoma_brufd
      @psoma_brufd 4 года назад +1

      @@lamalien2276 What do you mean? It was so well made and produced for the vast majority of it.

  • @poodlescone9700
    @poodlescone9700 4 года назад +25

    Craigslist For Sale: Slightly used Ha atak class warship.
    Well cared for. Only used for a few planetary invasions and hyperspace jumps. No ship to ship sublight speed combat.
    Only accepting nacqueda or ZPM. No trades for tokra or ta'ri spacecrafts. No hull kickers. I know what I got.

  • @ianmckee4726
    @ianmckee4726 4 года назад +32

    Anyone else remember back when building and manning 2 of these almost completely drained apophis' resources? Fast forward 2 or 3 years and every gould had like a dozen.

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 4 года назад +20

      A lot of the planets SG1 visited early on hadn't seen a Goauld in a while. Once SG1 started stirring things up the Goauld returned to those planets to regain resources and territory. They basically switched to a total war economy.

    • @LordTalax
      @LordTalax 4 года назад

      Apophis probably took losses elsewhere

    • @ianmckee4726
      @ianmckee4726 4 года назад +2

      @@LordTalax Im not so sure. I will admit to not having seen the episodes in question in awhile, but i seem to recall that the destruction of those two ha'taks were pointed to as comprising most of apophis' svaliable respurces. I seem to recal teal'c being the one to state that, which as the first prime he should have the bedt idea of apophis resources.

    • @ianmckee4726
      @ianmckee4726 4 года назад +3

      @@specialnewb9821 Also, the gould system lords were stated to be constantly fighting each other for whatever they could grab. Id have to imagine theyd all have multiple fleets on hand to defend their various holdings from each other.

    • @dreamingflurry2729
      @dreamingflurry2729 4 года назад +8

      No it didn't drain his resources, his other ships were left home to defend his holdings. The loss of face against a race without space-technology is what made the others swarm him (blood in a shark-tank!)

  • @kyleobryant6150
    @kyleobryant6150 4 года назад +9

    Love seeing Stargate get love on here!

  • @MrLunario
    @MrLunario 4 года назад +16

    I've been thinking of re-watching SG-1 lately, I guess this is a sign that I should.

    • @jamesbizs
      @jamesbizs 4 года назад

      Mr.Lunario lucky. I watched it too recently. I tried rewatching it a week ago. Nope. Too fresh

  • @BattleUnit3
    @BattleUnit3 4 года назад +9

    I loved Stargate for its progression. How capturing a single Ha'tak was a Major asset but as the series progressed Ha'tak became less and less important until the upgrades. Two Ha'tak were a major threat to Earth but later in the series entire fleets were repelled. Despite the upgrades O'neill was right "This is a weapon of intimidation and This is weapon of war" Despite speaking about staff weapons and P90 i think it encompasses the entire Goa'uld doctrine.

    • @artembentsionov
      @artembentsionov 4 года назад +1

      Lucian Alliance made upgrades to the Ha’tak design. In Universe pilot, several LA Ha’taks were keeping the Hammond busy instead of dropping like flies

  • @willtiffany5409
    @willtiffany5409 4 года назад +91

    *burps*
    "Impudence"
    "No, tuna"

  • @fredwupkensoppel8949
    @fredwupkensoppel8949 4 года назад +36

    1:04 Didn't the Goa'uld only use Naquadah to power their systems? Naquadriah was deemed too unstable by the humans and the Goa'uld never got a hold of it, if I'm not mistaken.

    • @JaredLS10
      @JaredLS10 4 года назад +2

      came here to say this

    • @hothoploink1509
      @hothoploink1509 4 года назад +7

      @@JaredLS10 Same. God we're such nerds... :D

    • @georgejcox9241
      @georgejcox9241 4 года назад

      You right about it too.

    • @generalantilles2586
      @generalantilles2586 4 года назад

      Probably a slip of the tongue or a script error. I do the same thing, even though I KNOW the difference.

    • @generalantilles2586
      @generalantilles2586 4 года назад

      @@unintentionallydramatic It's why they used the stuff to make the Mk 9 'Gatebuster.'

  • @campino4149
    @campino4149 4 года назад +9

    Finally a Stargate video again!!

  • @qrogueuk
    @qrogueuk 4 года назад +8

    Thanks for the upload and to quote one of my favourite Jaffa "indeed"

  • @BillyBOB-sm3rl
    @BillyBOB-sm3rl 4 года назад +8

    Since you started it, now you have to finish it. Do all the ships from all the Star Gate series.

    • @linz8291
      @linz8291 7 месяцев назад

      including extroplanets of terraforming settlements, please.

  • @JusticeGamingChannel
    @JusticeGamingChannel 4 года назад +36

    I'm not sure it was powered by Naquahdria, I thought it was just Naquadah, the Goa'uld didn't even know about Naquadriah till much later in the series, they didn't have access to it, or an abundance of it till much later

    • @battlesheep2552
      @battlesheep2552 4 года назад +4

      Plus it was established that even Anubis couldn’t harness power from it without it going unstable. I think Naquahdria is only useful for bombs.
      I think it only comes from a line from Carter when they first encountered it saying it must be how the Gua’uld generate the immense power needed for FTL.

    • @Derekloffin
      @Derekloffin 4 года назад +2

      Yeah, pretty sure you're right. Probably a typo due to the confusing nature of the names being so similar.

    • @victorselve8349
      @victorselve8349 4 года назад +4

      @@battlesheep2552 the early 303 used Naquadria with a large buffer to compensate for the large fluctuations in the power generation and the 301/2 as well although their hyperspace capabilities were limited to microjumps due to not being able to carry a large enough buffer to compensate for the inherent Naquadria instability but apart from that it was never successfully incorporated into any other technology apart from bombs (and it was used as a power source on Icarus class planets to dial for example Destiny although that could cause the planet to explode)

    • @icer1249
      @icer1249 4 года назад

      i was gonna mention that too. naquahdria was never used by the goa'uld.

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 4 года назад +2

      @@icer1249 They knew about it since that one Goauld experimented with it on Jonas' world but not even Anubis used it.

  • @Matej_Sojka
    @Matej_Sojka 4 года назад +3

    Cloaking device is not only used by Anubis on Ha'taks, When Heru-Ur met Apophis in the minefield episode, Apophis had whole fleet of them.

  • @carlmahnke6256
    @carlmahnke6256 4 года назад +5

    Thank you, I love when you do Stargate.

  • @0megasight
    @0megasight 4 года назад +95

    24000 years....for comparison, that’s the entire detailed history of the old Republic in Star Wars EU.

    • @firebladetenn6633
      @firebladetenn6633 4 года назад +4

      0megasight I’d like a fact check on that, because it puts them as being contemporary with the ancients...

    • @dreamingflurry2729
      @dreamingflurry2729 4 года назад +13

      @@firebladetenn6633 Nah...the ancients were on the way out hundreds of thousands of years ago (they left the Milkyway and they abandoned Atlantis before the Goa'uld even seriously enter the picture!)

    • @firebladetenn6633
      @firebladetenn6633 4 года назад +3

      DreamingFlurry yes, but I thought Atlantis departed Antarctica 10,000 years ago.

    • @1nt3rD1ct0r
      @1nt3rD1ct0r 4 года назад +8

      The Republic was 25,000 years old. The fact that a ship design would be useful for almost that long can be taken in several different ways. Yes, one could say that surely it was just that powerful and that it was simply built superbly. Or, one could postulate that there simply wasn't any competition and there just wasn't any new enemies to fight, no threat to adapt to. Or, in line with the second thought, the Goa'uld could simply be technologically stagnant, and simply unable to produce a better design for the same tonnage. All of these are possible, and many more reasons too, so I do not think it would be prudent to assume anything in comparison to other Sci-Fi universes. After all, complacency and lack of natural competition breeds weakness and a lack of adaptability. By comparison, the Republic has had near-constant wars for almost its entire existence. Be it against the Sith, itself, or even the Hutts. That kind of environment is the perfect one to create strong technological leaps and adaptable fighting forces. The Republic, by comparison, likely has a much better concept of Asymmetrical warfare, and that will carry over into ship design.

    • @greatsayain
      @greatsayain 4 года назад +2

      24,000 without an upgrade then suddenly Apophis and Anubis come out with new motherships. That's very coincidental.

  • @thegladnick
    @thegladnick 4 года назад +1

    Love when you cover Stargate content. Thank you!

  • @Cardinal8427
    @Cardinal8427 4 года назад +20

    Spacedock: Iconic
    HiddenXperia: THAT'S MY JOB!

    • @autumngottlieb3071
      @autumngottlieb3071 4 года назад +1

      HiddenXperia is well on his way to becoming HaloFollower 2. Please don't promote him.
      Especially seeing as how this isn't even a Halo video.

  • @travisellison7098
    @travisellison7098 4 года назад

    Just want to let you know how much I love this channel doing Stargate ships.

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte 4 года назад +41

    And as shown by Anubis and Replicators, the ship has a lot of untapped potential. Basically it's Adeptus Mechanics syndrome - it's made from watered down low quality ancient tech without full understanding of it. So when someone WITH understanding of that tech gets their hands on it, the ship suddenly jumps twenty power levels up.
    Or maybe the plot was just inconsistent later on and it helped ruin the series;)

    • @cadengrace5466
      @cadengrace5466 4 года назад +6

      This is the principle of a copy of copy of copy, etc.

    • @seand.g423
      @seand.g423 4 года назад +8

      No one here gonna mention the fact that this guy basically just coined the term "Adeptus Mechanicus Syndrome"?

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte 4 года назад

      @@Predator42ID Was US falling apart state by stae and having 50 civil wars at the same time as it was making those upgrades? Because I'm more worried about how the more unstable and small the enemy governments in Stargate become, the more of a danger they become. But please tell me about wonder of Free Jaffa Nation economy and the miracles of Lucien Alliance:D

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte 4 года назад +2

      @@lastechocorp1841 problems with Jaffa weapons is that
      1)they work well. Case in point, regard lasgun vs stubber/autogun/bolter. Lasgun might not be as fun, but it works perfect for logistics on galactic level, it barely runs out of ammo, it can be charged with sunlight or heat from campfire, it can work for centuries. I don't recall Jaffa staff jamming in the show. I haven't seen it being cleaned and oiled. I don't recall Jaffa running out of ammo. It doesn't break or bend when dropped. While providing firepower of a mortar/recoilles rifle;
      2)the show tries to make the point against them not with UZI or MP5 or AKM or G3, nope, it uses polymer abomination known as P90 of all things:D

    • @lastechocorp1841
      @lastechocorp1841 4 года назад +1

      @@TheArklyte yeah my point wasnt that it was a poor quality weapon rather the execution was sub par. yes the p90 is awesome when your 10 but when you understand guns its a piece of crap, thing is they stared with mp5,s and they used g36's, yet even this abomination the p90 still far exceeded the staff weapon in a straight fight as proven by non SG1 teams when they didnt all die to overwhelming numbers, perhaps a AR platformed staff weapon, the kul warriors proved that the staff part of the weapon is entirely aesthetic what with having automatic versions in there wrists.

  • @SimBir08
    @SimBir08 4 года назад +78

    The Ha'tak only seemed powerful because nobody else had space flight. As soon as the Tauri got their ships the Ha'tak showed how weak it actually was.

    • @MihzvolWuriar
      @MihzvolWuriar 4 года назад +7

      And even without asgard energy weapons, the Ha'tak were inferior, when that happened...
      They were strong in numbers though.

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 4 года назад +12

      @@MihzvolWuriar they weren't though... We never ever see a BC303 or 304 actually damage a Ha'tak in normal combat and they were actually superior to all Asgard ships that weren't the O'Neill after Anubis' improvements.

    • @MihzvolWuriar
      @MihzvolWuriar 4 года назад +13

      @@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 The 303 wasn't at all, the 304 were able to defeat it because of the asgard shields, unless it was a Anubis Ha'tak, but the asgard energy weapons completely changed that, you know...

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 4 года назад +10

      @@MihzvolWuriar the Asgard plasma beam weapons would be one shots but before that with The pre Anubis improvement variants it was more like none could actually hurt the other one properly. The Goa'uld could not properly pierce Asgard shielding and railguns couldn't hurt Ha'taks.

    • @MihzvolWuriar
      @MihzvolWuriar 4 года назад +4

      @@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 The railguns, naquadria missiles and nukes would definitely hurt old Ha'taks, I doubt one 304 would be able to take out more than 2 Ha'taks though, I doubt they carry enough ammo, I say they are superior to old Ha'taks if they are loaded with all weapons we see loaded on then at least once.

  • @lindseycampbell3023
    @lindseycampbell3023 4 года назад

    I'm so happy stargate hasn't been forgotten!

  • @adyne7887
    @adyne7887 4 года назад +47

    He could have picked any other fictional starship mankind has created. A ship from Halo or one of the very underappreciated ship of the Homeworld series. And of all these options, he chose a goddamn space pyramid. What a madman.

    • @MasterGeekMX
      @MasterGeekMX 4 года назад +21

      Some of us are mad that Stargate is always overlooked by the usual franchises.

    • @MrBigCookieCrumble
      @MrBigCookieCrumble 4 года назад +4

      MORE STARGATE FOR THE PEOPLE!

    • @jamesyap8364
      @jamesyap8364 4 года назад +3

      @@DanielDracohun indeed

    • @artembentsionov
      @artembentsionov 4 года назад +4

      I’m all for Homeworld ships getting their day on this channel, especially Homeworld: Cataclysm (I don’t care that it’s not canon).
      Also, Nexus: The Jupiter Incident has some awesome ship designs

    • @adyne7887
      @adyne7887 4 года назад +3

      @@artembentsionov I'm also in for Homeworld, mainly Homeworld 2 ships.

  • @dariustiapula
    @dariustiapula 4 года назад +42

    This babies can survive hovering near the corona of stars. Now if only most Scifi ships can do that.

    • @TurKlack
      @TurKlack 4 года назад +6

      I only see them break apart whenever someone breathes at them...

    • @dariustiapula
      @dariustiapula 4 года назад +8

      @@TurKlack Well they do that when the enemy is another Ha'tak, superior firepower, or SG1 merely nearby even.:P

    • @victorselve8349
      @victorselve8349 4 года назад +6

      @@TurKlack that's because anything that managed to build a space capable society without the Goa'uld wiping them out needed a hell of a breath to be able to keep existing.

    • @ozzy6852
      @ozzy6852 4 года назад +5

      Considering what most sifi ships are shown to be able to do, flying through a stars corona should be a piece of cake for almost anything with shields.

    • @dariustiapula
      @dariustiapula 4 года назад +9

      @@ozzy6852 For a few minutes or seconds only. While every panels and screens is exploding*looking at Star Trek*. Ha'tak seems to exceed those limits without the exploding console syndrome.

  • @georgejcox9241
    @georgejcox9241 4 года назад +6

    Just don't let SG1 have one. Because IT WILL go bye bye (as in BOOM or CRUSH into A planet ) big time.

  • @DarthHao
    @DarthHao 3 года назад +1

    It always surprises me that given it’s size and role as a capital ship, it often seems unexpectedly maneuverable, at least visually speaking.

  • @noahcederlund7660
    @noahcederlund7660 4 года назад +12

    Wheres the sojourn we need it

  • @Arendelft
    @Arendelft 4 года назад

    Frag Spacedock, you narrate these so fragging well! I love these videos! Especially on the ships I know and may not love but learn to respect again anyways! Terra! Keep doing what you do! If I had the money, I'd support you on Patreon!

  • @lucasshaw6934
    @lucasshaw6934 3 года назад

    Dear spacedock channel... this channel absolutely 💯 rules. Not just showing cool ships but real independ breakdowns with great passing of information 👌👍👏 iv got a book I keep for my ship designs and classings. (Yes I build fleets and design ships) this channel has become so very useful for helping me to grow my fleets weapons and basic information building. This is a Thank you form a long time fan keep doing as yall do

  • @paullopez6620
    @paullopez6620 4 года назад +2

    Did you ever do a sid by side caparison between a death-glider and the 302?

  • @natzo89
    @natzo89 4 года назад +36

    Thousand megatons per blast?
    They never felt that strong.

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 4 года назад +13

      Those were not the actual ones when they were doing normal Bombardements, but the anty fighter ones. When they were actually serious about Erradicating a planets population (like in the alternative universe where they actually attacked earth ) they glassed entire continents in a few minutes (like they glassed half of North America in like 30-50 seconds with a single Ha'tak).

    • @hollowpoint8261
      @hollowpoint8261 4 года назад

      @@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 I haven't watched Stargate in a few years, so my memory is a bit fuzzy. When did this happen?

    • @jamesyap8364
      @jamesyap8364 4 года назад +2

      @@sdsd2e2321 Season 1 episode 19

  • @geographicaloddity2
    @geographicaloddity2 4 года назад

    You just can't do enough Stargate. Thank you.

  • @artembentsionov
    @artembentsionov 4 года назад +5

    Fun fact: “Ha’tak” is Goa’uld for “attack”

  • @joshuaperrine2019
    @joshuaperrine2019 4 года назад

    Thank you for more Stargate!

  • @masterchief2911
    @masterchief2911 4 года назад +1

    It has large staff weapons. Cloaking device for hatak was developed by Sokar. But after all nice video. Leaving like :D

  • @Knorhold
    @Knorhold 4 года назад +2

    You shold absolutly look into "space above and beyond"! It' s a mostly forgotten Sci-Fi Series from the 1990s, but it has some truly awesome Spacecraft!
    PS: It has a US-Military in Space / Near Futur design - so less like Star Trek and more like Halo

    • @artembentsionov
      @artembentsionov 4 года назад

      Maybe Chiggy von Richthofen’s custom fighter

  • @phalanx3803
    @phalanx3803 4 года назад

    first YT recommends a load of stargate stuff to me then spacedock make a video on stargate. it must be a sign that i haven't binge watched all of stargate in a long time (6 months)
    well i guess its time to watch all of stargate all over again.
    also SGU season 3 it needs to happen we where able to save The Expanse so lets bring back SGU.

  • @MOLE60
    @MOLE60 4 года назад

    one ship featured in a forgotten series from the late 80's is THE ANGELON from Something is Out there . it would be interesting to see a breakdown on that .

  • @Snicker433
    @Snicker433 4 года назад

    Now you need to do a video on the, Shuttle, for it is a formidable craft!

  • @ErenisRanitos
    @ErenisRanitos 4 года назад +3

    YEEEES!!!!! never clicked so fast on a video in my life!

  • @TheDutchisGaming
    @TheDutchisGaming 4 года назад

    What’s with the Asgard at the end of 1:17?

  • @Nora-mg7cc
    @Nora-mg7cc 4 года назад

    I loved this so much Goa'uld.

  • @PopeWaffles
    @PopeWaffles 4 года назад +1

    3:17 what episode is that?

  • @manuelsebastian1360
    @manuelsebastian1360 4 года назад

    from witch ep did you get the amazing spacebattle at 1:10?

  • @sa80slayer85
    @sa80slayer85 4 года назад

    Love stargate love this youtube series!! Keep it up

  • @jhmcd2
    @jhmcd2 4 года назад +4

    Nice to see another Stargate ship on here. Still one of my favorite scifi series. As for the weapons yields, I am not sure how powerful the ships weapons were, but we do know that they could level a city the size of New York in just a few shots (the dialogue if I recall gives the impression of a single shot)....but that was also in an alternate timeline episode too. We never see them output that much firepower again.

  • @seanheath4492
    @seanheath4492 4 года назад

    Would love to see you guys do something on the Invictus-class superdreadnought or any other warship from Honor Harrington.

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 4 года назад +1

    Thank you

  • @goldenwolfprogramming6904
    @goldenwolfprogramming6904 4 года назад

    PLEASE MORE SOJOURN CONTENT. PLEASE.

  • @leidlelee3378
    @leidlelee3378 4 года назад +1

    I saw that split second grey alien!

  • @AnonymousAnonposter
    @AnonymousAnonposter 4 года назад

    Oh finally another Stargate video! Any possibility for making more videos about Stargate and Farscape?

  • @Carl_Aznable
    @Carl_Aznable 4 года назад

    Indeed, a formidable craft.

  • @SteveAngelis
    @SteveAngelis 4 года назад

    If anyone wants to fight with or against a fleet of these, get the SGI mod for Sins of a Solar Empire. AWESOME mod for the game!

  • @tjwalsh7563
    @tjwalsh7563 4 года назад

    Thanks, I needed that

  • @thomascousineau5814
    @thomascousineau5814 4 года назад +4

    Dan...review some ship's from the Wing Commander universe

  • @artembentsionov
    @artembentsionov 4 года назад

    O’Neill: “Shotgun!”
    Grif: “Shotgun! Fuck!”

  • @csabaszep8162
    @csabaszep8162 4 года назад

    The DoW2 soundtrack is strangely a perfect fit for this ship's breakdown video.

  • @Great_America
    @Great_America 4 года назад

    The Ha’tak is the intergalactic version of the B-52 bomber 😂

  • @brianterrill9587
    @brianterrill9587 4 года назад

    Ok I've got a Stump the Chump for ya. The HMS Endeavour which was Captained by Commander Arcturus Rann during his 1,000 year voyage through the Microverse.

  • @stephenbond1990
    @stephenbond1990 4 года назад +1

    Can you do the adamant frigate or arachne cruiser from battlestar galactica deadlock please?

  • @MrLupis26
    @MrLupis26 4 года назад

    I would like to see one done for the Dalek mothership or the Dalek fighter pod please.

  • @cantis
    @cantis 4 года назад

    Would love to have to look at the Honor Harrington universe by David Weber there are published ‘janes’ style books as well as very active reader community. Wonderful ships with a great deal of background.

  • @Zamun
    @Zamun 4 года назад

    Thanks for the content

  • @autumnson
    @autumnson 4 года назад +2

    Great video ! Could you make one on M-Bot from the Skyward / Starsight book series by Brandon Sanderson ?

  • @republiccommando6104
    @republiccommando6104 4 года назад +1

    Do the Orion-class Pocket Battlestar!

  • @Lygron.
    @Lygron. 4 года назад

    I'd love to see one of these on a peacekeeper command Carrier from farscape

  • @noirangel6416
    @noirangel6416 4 года назад +4

    Pretty please do Talyn from Farscape.

  • @johnlavery3433
    @johnlavery3433 4 года назад +1

    Have you ever considered looking at the Honor Harrington series? It’s a military sci fi fans dream

    • @kybercat7
      @kybercat7 4 года назад

      you just reminded me i need to order like book 1212525125 in that series. in getting close to the end, i think. but i thought that then the peps fell. and then i thought that when the peps fell again. and now there a republic again

    • @artembentsionov
      @artembentsionov 4 года назад

      The main series is over, but some of the spin-offs are still in the process.
      One problem with the series is that the ships are not visually distinctive due to the tech limitations. Pretty much all warships look like spindles with thick ends. You have to see real close to get any difference. There’s a reason the comic books and the mobile game said “screw it” and made ships visually distinctive from one another

  • @AnthonyJ504
    @AnthonyJ504 4 года назад

    Anyone know what episode of the part @1:25 is? The orbital bombardment.

    • @tamaspapp225
      @tamaspapp225 4 года назад +2

      Its from the movie Stargate Continuum.

    • @MihzvolWuriar
      @MihzvolWuriar 4 года назад

      I'd guess one of the other dimension attacks on earth?

    • @AnthonyJ504
      @AnthonyJ504 4 года назад

      @@tamaspapp225 thank you. Guess it's time for a rewatch, don't remember that scene.

  • @badwolf66
    @badwolf66 4 года назад +2

    The Ha'tak is like the T-34 or T-55 of Goa'uld ships.

    • @artembentsionov
      @artembentsionov 4 года назад

      Mass-produced and used to turn the tide of a war?

  • @KEVMAN7987
    @KEVMAN7987 4 года назад +1

    "Col. O'Neill, please report to the pel'tak."

  • @leewilcox1500
    @leewilcox1500 4 года назад +1

    Love the Dawn of War II music

  • @barbiquearea
    @barbiquearea 2 года назад

    The Ha'tak design reminds me of the Atlantis city ship. It makes me wonder if the Goa'uld could have been inspired by the shape of the Ancient's city ships when they made the Ha'tak?

  • @stangundam01
    @stangundam01 4 года назад

    great vid spacedock, can the next vid you do be the romulan kerchan class?

  • @mattwho81
    @mattwho81 4 года назад

    The Hatak suffered from having to serve as both a gunboat and as an invasion transport and light aircraft carrier. It’s like trying to build an amphibious Assault ship that can also serve as a big gun Battleship. We’ve seen when the Gould try to build a pure warship they can turn out some pretty impressive vessels.

    • @artembentsionov
      @artembentsionov 4 года назад +2

      A dedicated warship has to have reinforced structure to protect the ship and heavy armor. A carrier needs lots of internal space for fighters and ammo, as well as crew spaces for pilots, not to mention openings for launching said fighters. Those are opposing design philosophies. It’s not very practical to have a battleship/carrier hybrid, since you get a “master of none” type of deal rather than a “jack of all trades”

    • @artembentsionov
      @artembentsionov 4 года назад

      Piotr Dudała considering how often the Galactica was protected by little more than plot armor...

  • @theguardingdark1183
    @theguardingdark1183 4 года назад

    Still waiting for you to do one on the greatest space ship ever concieved. Terry Prachett's Disk World. The Great Atuin deserves his/her vid!

  • @hanzup4117
    @hanzup4117 4 года назад +1

    Sexiest ship in the galaxy.
    Great video. The only thing that could've made it better is if you mentioned the Replicator enhanced Ha'taks.

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 4 года назад +1

      Or the far improved Anubis variant.

    • @hanzup4117
      @hanzup4117 4 года назад +1

      @@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 That one was class :D First new ship from Goa'uld in 24000 years xD lol

    • @hanzup4117
      @hanzup4117 4 года назад +1

      @@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Wait, no, I forgot about Apothis's ship.

    • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
      @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 4 года назад +1

      @@hanzup4117 no I didn't mean Anubis' flagship. I meant his improvement to the normal Ha'tak which brought it to a far higher level (actually kicking the crap out of all Asgard Warships before the O'Neill)

  • @nerowulfee9210
    @nerowulfee9210 4 года назад +2

    [in Red vs Blue voice]
    Shotgun!

  • @obsidian179
    @obsidian179 3 года назад +1

    Funny thing: we never see a three-sided landing pyramid. Not when Heru’ur was building landing platforms on Cimmeria, not even when SG-1 actually *landed* the Ha’tak of the recently killed Cronus *on* *a* *pyramid* . (I guess the SFX people were just hoping we wouldn’t notice.) Why even make them tetrahedral? I mean, what did the showrunners even *get* out of that change?

  • @RRW359
    @RRW359 4 года назад +1

    1:25 I doubt a single blast from a hattak could be several gigatons. If you plug that into nukemap (the early version that lets you put in anything), the heat from a 1GT explosion would give literally everyone from London to Paris 3'rd degree burns if detonated in the channel. We've been close enough to see weapons fired from orbit hit the ground, so I doubt they are that destructive. Even if it's a max setting or something, we see several hit Anubis's flagship over *Kalona's capital city without injuring the indigenous population, and due to the stakes at the time, I doubt the system lords would be using anything less than full power.
    *They did say in the episode that their weapons are only 40% effective when firing through an atmosphere, but that's still 2 Krakatatu's for each shot.

    • @yazanmowed
      @yazanmowed 4 года назад

      It is that powerful, remember that these ships need to be able to destroy each other and they are shown to be able to comfortably sit within a sun’s corona for a long time without taking any damage. This should give you an idea of how strong their shields are and how strong their capital weapons need to be to compensate.

    • @RRW359
      @RRW359 4 года назад +1

      @@yazanmowed A hat'tak? Sure. The 1940's-era city beneath it? Doubtful.

    • @dianavespid937
      @dianavespid937 4 года назад

      Yazan Mowed Being within a sun’s corona isn’t that impressive when you have regenerating shields and you have enough surface area to split the energy in the most efficient way.

  • @alexmurray8925
    @alexmurray8925 4 года назад

    Would you ever consider doing a breakdown video for the GDI Mammoth Mk. II battle walker from the Command and Conquer series? I'd love to see your take on such a death-dealing war machine.

  • @darquesand
    @darquesand 4 года назад

    Is there a video for the small crafts?

  • @Grand_Master12312
    @Grand_Master12312 7 месяцев назад +1

    Where is the front of hatak ship?

  • @theonlyjacknicole
    @theonlyjacknicole 4 года назад

    *sees Spacedock notification*
    *sees featured Stargate ship*
    *likes*
    *watches entire upload*

  • @RA-hi5ln
    @RA-hi5ln 4 года назад

    Just a small correction. The g'oaluld used Naquad as an energy source not naqaudrea. This was a plot point in the series as the humans were trying to build their own homegrown hyper-drive. (Please forgive my spelling)

  • @grayscribe1342
    @grayscribe1342 4 года назад +1

    Please make a video about the Cygnus from 'The Black Hole'.