MUZZY TROCAR 100 gr Broadhead Test
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- This is a test of the 100 gr 3 blade Muzzy Trocar Broadhead. It's actually the Crossbow version, but can be used with a vertical bow as well.
Here is summary of my 2022 Testing Procedure & Scoring w/ the scores of the Trocar posted in parenthesis as well.
Total Trocar 100gr Score: 86.64 = 9 Golden Arrows
1. Flight Forgiveness (20%, 16 pts)
This is not just a test of how heads fly out of my bow, as it was in the past. With a well tuned bow, properly built arrows & good form, almost every head flies well. That's why in the past most heads got a flight score of 9 or 10. But that doesn't help those who may not have perfectly tuned bows/arrows/good form. So now I am gauging Flight Forgiveness. This is based on how the head flies for me, how well it spins, how "sensitive" the flight is to imperfections, & the exposed surface area of the blades. The max score of a Mech is 20 & the max score of a Fixed is 16. The Trocar got 16 pts & will get 1 bonus point for extra good flight.
2. Cut Size (20%, 13.53 pts)
The more tissue being cut, the more lethal the head, all else equal. The entrance cut, total cut, & width of the cut (a crucial variable for bloodletting) are all scored:
The entrance cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" then that fraction is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.78" = 4.98 pts)
The max cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" as well, then that fraction is is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.78" = 4.98 pts)
The max cutting diameter is compared to a standard of 2.0", then that fraction is weighted to 6% of the score. (1.19" = 3.57 pts)
3. Sharpness (20%, 17.38 pts)
Initial sharpness (9%, 225 grs = 9.75/10= 8.78 pts ) & Edge Retention (9%, +100 grs = 8/10 = 7.2 pts) are measured using the Edge On Up Sharpness Tester. The pressure needed for a blade to cut thru a copolymer wire is measured in grams.
Edge Retention is the loss of sharpness after the head is shot in Penetration Test 1, thru 1/2" MDF and 2/3" rubber foam mat & Clear Ballistics FBI gel. For every 50 "grams" of sharpness lost, 1 point is deducted from 10.
What are some sharpness scores for common edges?
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the co polymer wire.
A new high end cutlery edge: ~ 375 grams of pressure.
A utility razor blade: 200 grams.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
701-800 gr: 4
801-900 gr: 3
901-1000 gr: 2
1001-1100 gr: 1
1101+ gr: 0
Ease to resharpen or replace blades is judged & given 2% of the score. (7/10=1.4 pts)
4. Penetration (20%, 18.73 pts)
There are 3 penetration tests:
Pen Test 1: 1/2" MDF, 2/3" rubber foam mat, Clear Ballistics FBI gel. Depth of penetration is compared to a standard of 9" & weighted to 9% of the score. (8.5" = 8.5 pts)
Pen Test 2: Layered cardboard. # of layers penetrated is compared to a standard of 70 layers & weighted to 9% of the score.
(64 layers=8.23 pts)
Angled Penetration Test: How effectively does the head penetrate 1/4" MDF covered by carpet at a 45 degree angle. This accounts for 2% of the score. (2/2pts)
5. Durability (20%, 19 pts)
Each head is shot thru 1/2" MDF 3 times. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 12% of the score. (12 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot thru 22 ga steel plate twice. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 5% of the score. (8/10 = 4 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot into concrete once. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 3% of the score. (10/10 = 3 pts)
Steel plate & concrete are certainly not "realistic" mediums, but they do reveal the outer limits of a head's durability.
BONUS: (+ 1 excellent flight, +1 offset blades/rotation = 40 degrees @ 10.5")
TOTAL SCORE: 86.64 pts = 9 Golden Arrows
Price of Trocar: $15/head
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Always happy when John posts a new broadhead test video. Thanks John!
Thank you!
I love these broad heads! They get the job done and fly like a field tip
Nice.
Great test. What I like is that they have flown great out of every bow i've used them on, right with the field tips. No tuning issues like some of the other fixed heads. The blades do get damaged but at their price point its not a big deal.
Thanks Adam.
I had blade issues as well, so I ended up switching to different heads. Blades got wavy simply from hitting ribs.
I bought some trocars last year but didn’t use them due to the blades having some play. I did try to tighten them but never could get them snug. Not sure if they are built this way but didn’t want to chance it. Anyone else had this issue?
@@matthewnola7241 Mine could be moved around. I've killed deer, elk, javeina and pigs with them and they never failed to perform or worried me though. I still use them.
I can see why Cam Hanes shot these heads on elk for a bunch of years. That's a tough little razor head. I was impressed with how it spun after being bounced from the concrete block.
Another stand up great job on a really great little 3 blade razor head.
Yes indeed. Thanks brother
Nothing better than checking my subscriptions and seeing a new video posted from the main man Lusk! Keep ‘em coming brother 🐐
Thank you!
I told you years ago that the trocar was one of the best on the market! Good video
Haha. Yeah, I’ve tested them a bit over the years.
Thank you for another great video!!! 🥤🥱🍿🏆
You’re welcome. Thank you for watching!
glad you tested those. on my journey looking for new broadheads it was in my top 5. im impressed and id like to see the muzzy trocar hb hybrids one day
You can't beat the QAD Exodus or Tooth of the Arrow heads. Alot of great heads on the market! Magnus has a great lineup with lifetime warranty. All three of those are also made in 🇺🇸
Thanks for the comment.
@@-lovefromnh I agree!!!!!
The exodus is the best head for the price right now in my opinion.
@@garrettstraffon608 i ended up with the annihilator xl 125 which i love but if i had seen some of these videos i may have went a different way. i did a real world test with them on a whitetail from the shot to the damage on the heart lungs and the passthrough damage they did and i was very impressed! I have a youtube video i posted of everything!
I used this broadhead last week to put down a beef cow for butcher with my 55lbs recurve. worked like a charm other then the broadhead unscrewing from the arrow shaft inside the animal (I may not have had it on tight enough). It was this video that talked me into picking up this broadhead to begin with. thanks for such an in-depth review
That's cool. Thanks for sharing that.
I shoot these in my crossbow and they unscrew a good bit for me aswell. Other than that they're solid. 37$ for 3 at walmart just bought the same pack off Amazon for 21
Tried these a few years back before finding the Qad exodus.
Out of my bow, the Trocar flew well & most cases resulted a high % of pass through shots. Yet blood trails usually were minimal as small wounds would plug up quickly. Thanks for testing
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Blood trails on exodus vs trocar? Been very curious on that!
@@garretbellah8615 I’m hunting axis year round , and shoot a lot of deer. Depending on the shot placement & angle, from saddle, stand or ground level, no question that exodus leaves a good blood trail. I add a 50 grain insert after testing which ups my FOC & provides consistent arrow flight out of my bow. Hope this helps. Thanks
@@clayrichardson1839 excellent points! Thanks man I appreciate the help
Bad to the Bone!! Been shooting them for years. Great testing John. 🇺🇸
Thanks Donald.
I bought a pack for my crossbow this year . Good test .
Nice
these are favs. reliable and accurate
Thanks for sharing that experience.
That rotation was rather impressive.
Right?
That's one for the quiver thanks again.
:)
I don't know how you can not have some Trocars and Exoduses... laying around, just got SEVRs...
Love broad-heads and your tests John thank you!
:) Thank you!
Awesome 👍
Thank you
Good job on the test. Not bad at all.
Thanks brother.
Tried and true! I think this a favorite of Cameron Hanes.
Yeah, they are a decent choice.
Great video
Thank you
Got to say I appreciate your testing. It’s great to see broad heads go through the same process for comparison. I’d still really like to see what you could come up with for testing and recommendations for arrow speeds vs cut size and style of mechanical or when to switch to a fixed blade. Even at what point you would want to switch to a maximum penetration head (say for recurve). For the mighty whitetail that is!
I’d love to see your thoughts on noise from broad heads. I’ve witnessed first hand the difference between a loud setup (tall blazer vanes with a three blade vented head) and a quiet setup. A loud setup will send them running. A quiet setup and theyll let you get off shots until you get the yardage right 😂
Thanks Daniel. Those are good ideas. I'm not really concerned about arrow flight noise...I've never seen it be an issue. Bow noise is huge, but I've never seen an animal pinpoint arrow flight noise. For all they know, it could be a big bug or bird zipping by. I'd have to see dozens & dozens of tests under the exact same conditions to really make a conclusion about it.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I agree that bow noise is more important than arrow noise. I do think if you’re going for a quiet bow, then it makes sense to have a quiet arrow, too. Probably a confidence thing for me.
With that said, I don’t think it’s worth increasing your arrow drop to quiet the bow down with a heavy arrow. Arrow placement is the most important thing hunting whitetail, and arrow placement vertically is much easier to get wrong than left and right. So I like to approach it with silent knight vanes and non-vented heads. G5 montecs sound like whistle going down range!
John, Great videos you are producing! I have two questions! Do you align your Broad head blades with the vanes on your bolts? There is a lot of mixed thoughts and confusing information on this subject. Do you glue your lighted nocks? Thanks for your responses and keep up the outstanding videos. Very informative!
Thanks Steve. It's been proven to have no quantifiable benefit in flight to align the vanes with the blades.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures love your videos please keep them coming
Would like it if broadhead company's would start making there heads in the 150 to 250 grain range to get better foc. Lots of great heads out there. Thicker blades also.
Yeah, more and more are doing that...largely because of crossbows.
I'm going with the QAD exodus this year, but I still love to watch your test videos!!! So many good broadhead out there nowadays makes it tough to pick just one lol.
Haha. I understand. Exodus is a great choice
Good review. Have you looked at the Muzzy Trocar HBX? Interested to see what your take on those is.
I've not done a formal test on them. Someone said they would send me a pack, but then never did. I did test the earlier model of their Hybrid and it did fairly well--similar to the Grim Reaper Hybrid.
That's a pretty wicked wound channel in the gel. I wonder what it would look like it they used the offset blades like that but in a single bevel that matched the rotation.
Some have done that, but it hasn't really added much. A blade needs to have a certain thickness to get much rotational benefit from single beveling.
I'll be looking back to see if the Deepower broadhead scored the same or higher.
:)
John…what do you do with all your broadheads? How do you store them all?
Love the videos!
Haha. I have 2 huge bins and then a big bag of the damaged ones.
Where did you get your transition sound fx? It sounds just like the structure fire alert tone from the Pulse Point App! I'm watching this at the fire station and thought we had a fire! 🤣😂🤣
It's on iMovie.
I have been shooting these since 2015 and have killed moose, whitetail, muledeer and elk. I am always trying different broadheads but when it comes to my hunts i just cant fix whats not broke
Thanks for sharing that.
I've killed a couple pligs with these.
My beef is the left hand offset to the blades when my zinger fletches are right hand offset.
I'm pretty certain that they fight each other in flight.
In my calibrated finger tips they seem to be about the sharpest out of the box I've tried.
Impossible to change blades...
Allen keys for this are hard to find and are the thickness of human hair.
Both of my kills with these were complete pass thrus
They rotate right for me and I use right hand helical
The difference between the standard and crossbow heads is the ferrule diameter. I have a couple of these and Sevr heads in my quiver.
Yep. Thanks for sharing that.
John, thanks for doing what you do! Have you done the Sevr Robusto, Iron Will Wide with bleeders or the Iron Will Single Bevel Right with your newest test regiment?
I've only done the IW Single Bevel with the 2022 protocol. The Sevr 2.0 is scheduled to post in a week.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures where do I send you broadheads or how can I obtain that info?
real nice heads, if i was to use a replaceable blade head it would be these trocar's, or the exodus, and i would have good confidence in the choice.
Those are both good choices-edge to the Exodus
I shot these in 2020 and had good flight, but was disappointed with the performance when I harvested a deer. I struck the far side shoulder on passthrough. The head deflected bending the ferule and breaking one blade. Maybe it hit the scapula at enough of an angle to differentiate from your cement block test, but that particular head, at the most inconvenient time, left me a bit disappointed. The deer left a short blood trail and piled up right away, but the head was not reusable. I've since switched heads.
Thanks for sharing that. There are so many variables that affect broadhead durability. Even the best can get pretty banged up on angled shots and when hitting certain bones with certain geometries and when the animal moves in a certain way.
Just bought some of these I’m new to cross bows. I herd what makes it cross bow is the notch in it to lock it down on cross bow bolt idk if that’s even true mine hasn’t came in yet to look at at
Interesting.
Ah, another poke on contact. Edit: My favorite 100 grain three blade is still the Montec.
Thanks Michael.
Based on your test, would you rate the QAD EXODUS or Muzzy Trocar the better performing broadhead? Appreciate your videos!
Both are great heads, but I’d take the Exodus by a mile. Thicker, stronger blades and a wider cut. Probably the best fixed/replaceable blade head on the market.
Thanks! I’ll take your advice! Appreciate your time and effort that goes into these test! I’ve been using the thorn rift for couple years now and want something with little more penetration.
Hey John , did you ever test the Tekan and Tekan ll when they was around. I shot several deer with them and never lost a deer. I wish they'd reintroduce them with a New locking collar like the Mega Meat has on it.
I remember those well, but I never did a formal test on them.
I didn't think you had , but I thought I'd ask....thanks John !!!
was considering this or the Qad to use instead of a Shwacker with my crossbow - went w/ the Qad, but I dont think I would have gone wrong
Well said. Exodus is a better choice, but these are also good.
Would you recommend this head or the exodus? My set up is 28” draw length, right at about 52 lbs. using blood sport punishers with a total arrow weight of 445 (if using a 100 grain broadhead) with about 18.64% FOC. I can’t make up my mind!
They're both top notch...but I'd go with the Exodus between those two. Wider cut and thicker, more durable blades.
John
Please test the micro hades
I have tested the Micro Hades 4 blade.
Man that flight was phenomenal! Let me know your email address, I’d like to see how the 100 grain Grim Reaper Microhades 3 blade make it through your updated tests!
Thank you. 6159 Nottingham Dr, Johnston, Iowa 50131. I just need at least 3 new heads to do a proper test.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures You got it!
I’m looking forward to the Micro Hades being retested 👍🏻
I placed the order! Should be there by the end of next week! Thanks for your content John!
Silly question, here. What direction do these rotate? Looks like left? Thanks for the review John!
They rotate to the right. Most heads do, because if they rotate left then they unscrew as they penetrate.
They are left hand offset.
I don't love that.
Maybe as John said they rotate right through game I dunno
I was also wondering with your expertise in multiple different broad heads if you have ever tested or have an opinion on shaft diameter size? Does it really make that big of a difference in flight and penetration?
I’ve found it makes a minimal difference; personally don’t think its worth the hassle.
Like this head but I fletch my arrows with a left helical and they wouldn’t get along with the right offset of those blades
Yep.
would you say it warrants the extra cost over the offset blade deepower heads?
Personally, no. The Deepower has a model with a wider cut and is every bit as durable.
Honestly these trocar are hard to beat for $65 bucks a dozen.
What was the target you used for the broad heads? Thanks.
I use the Sevr HD Target....love them! I have a few vid tests of them here on my channel...and they sell direct to consumer and include free shipping...and you can use my Discount Code LUSKFIVE to save even more. Hard to beat them.
Still can't figure out why they don't make single bevel replacement blades for these.
Well, they already rotate Better than most single bevel heads…and single bevels can impede penetration depth.
Have you tested the hybrid version?
I did a long time ago, in a vid called Massive Mech Test or something like that. I should do it again.
Slicktrick standard should be tested. They changed the game 18 years ago?? They are still my #1 in my quiver.
I used to hunt with them all the time. I’ve not done a formal test of them. If someone sends me a pack, I’ll gladly do it.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I can send you a pack. What's the address?
Are the blades replaceable?
Yes
Did you notice a discernible difference between the deepower version - that were similar to this - that you tested in the past?
That would be a great head to head battle I would like to see.
Nope. The Deepower makes a wider cut model that’s every bit as good.
The sharpness and edge retention was disappointing, it’s durability was good. If bought had a good price not bad but I feel there are better heads
Thanks Mike. What was disappointing about the sharpness? 225 grams to cut the copolymer wire is really good. It gets a score of 9.75 out of 10 for that. The retention was average-scored an 8 out of 10 with an increase of 100 grams.