George Hotz: Hacking the Simulation & Learning to Drive with Neural Nets | Lex Fridman Podcast

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
  • George Hotz (geohot) is a programmer, hacker, and the founder of Comma.ai. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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    OUTLINE:
    0:00 - Introduction
    2:31 - Will human civilization destroy itself?
    5:18 - Where are the aliens?
    10:05 - Tic Tac UFO and Bob Lazar
    12:33 - Conspiracy theories
    14:36 - The programming language of life
    18:57 - The games that humans play
    27:27 - Memory leaks in the simulation
    29:58 - Theories of everything
    31:43 - Ethereum startup story
    39:30 - Cryptocurrency
    48:57 - Self-help advice
    52:37 - Comma.ai
    54:30 - Comma two
    1:03:19 - Tesla vs Comma.ai
    1:12:22 - Driver monitoring
    1:26:03 - Communicating uncertainty
    1:27:51 - Tesla Dojo
    1:34:19 - Tesla Autopilot big rewrite
    1:40:37 - How to install the Comma Two
    1:45:13 - Openpilot is Android & Autopilot is iOS
    1:54:28 - Waymo
    2:05:41 - Autonomous driving and society
    2:07:53 - Moving
    2:10:58 - Advice to Startups
    2:24:00 - Programming setup
    2:27:01 - Ideas that changed my life
    2:35:06 - GPT-3
    2:38:26 - AGI
    2:42:29 - Programming languages that everyone should learn
    2:49:02 - How to learn anything
    2:51:34 - Book recommendations
    2:59:57 - Love
    3:01:46 - Psychedelics
    3:04:07 - Crazy
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  • @lexfridman
    @lexfridman  3 года назад +391

    Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast.
    0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions:
    - Four Sigmatic: foursigmatic.com/lex and use code LexPod to get up to 40% & free shipping
    - Decoding Digital: appdirect.com/decoding-digital
    - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod and use code LexPod to get 3 months free
    2:31 - Will human civilization destroy itself?
    5:18 - Where are the aliens?
    10:05 - Tic Tac UFO and Bob Lazar
    12:33 - Conspiracy theories
    14:36 - The programming language of life
    18:57 - The games that humans play
    27:27 - Memory leaks in the simulation
    29:58 - Theories of everything
    31:43 - Ethereum startup story
    39:30 - Cryptocurrency
    48:57 - Self-help advice
    52:37 - Comma.ai
    54:30 - Comma two
    1:03:19 - Tesla vs Comma.ai
    1:12:22 - Driver monitoring
    1:26:03 - Communicating uncertainty
    1:27:51 - Tesla Dojo
    1:34:19 - Tesla Autopilot big rewrite
    1:40:37 - How to install the Comma Two
    1:45:13 - Openpilot is Android & Autopilot is iOS
    1:54:28 - Waymo
    2:05:41 - Autonomous driving and society
    2:07:53 - Moving
    2:10:58 - Advice to Startups
    2:24:00 - Programming setup
    2:27:01 - Ideas that changed my life
    2:35:06 - GPT-3
    2:38:26 - AGI
    2:42:29 - Programming languages that everyone should learn
    2:49:02 - How to learn anything
    2:51:34 - Book recommendations
    2:59:57 - Love
    3:01:46 - Psychedelics
    3:04:07 - Crazy

    • @rileykilgore3724
      @rileykilgore3724 3 года назад +7

      Tesla earnings call and then this drops, today’s a good day.
      Thanks Lex!!

    • @r-gart
      @r-gart 3 года назад

      Timestamps are wrong, Lex.

    • @lexfridman
      @lexfridman  3 года назад +74

      Sorry, timestamps were all off. I fixed them. I had a bug in my code (both my own neural network and the Python script used to manage timestamps).

    • @Circbent
      @Circbent 3 года назад +2

      You might like the Culture series by Iain M. Banks.

    • @PositronQ
      @PositronQ 3 года назад +2

      The New Travel you can download the RUclips API in Python and implement in your videos like timestamp or changes titles in the screen

  • @TwoMinutePapers
    @TwoMinutePapers 3 года назад +1645

    I've been really waiting for this one. It was as spicy as expected, great interview, thank you! 🙏

    • @gm323k4
      @gm323k4 3 года назад +10

      Me too. Haven‘t watched it yet but I bet its as interesting as their last conversation. I love your videos btw, keep going!

    • @rogerab1792
      @rogerab1792 3 года назад +48

      huge fan of Geohotz and Two Minute Papers🙏both making immense real change! Lex too obviously!

    • @carlrodalegrado4104
      @carlrodalegrado4104 3 года назад +60

      What a time to be alive

    • @crosstuck
      @crosstuck 3 года назад +4

      Best Ai podcast ever ☺️

    • @JacobBrunsonBurner
      @JacobBrunsonBurner 3 года назад +14

      Hold onto your papers: Two Minute Papers is a Lex Fridman fan!

  • @found_documents
    @found_documents 3 года назад +1068

    I went to high school with George in New Jersey and can remember him failing science class/always getting in trouble for being distracted and bored with school. It’s really great seeing him achieve so much success by focusing on what interests him rather than taking a conventional path. It’s a shame that so many kids are turned off by science and math class at such a young age by how poorly the subjects are often taught. It goes to show you that you should never take failing a high school or college class too seriously. Sometimes it can even be a badge of honor.

    • @found_documents
      @found_documents 3 года назад +30

      @@artofexistance Glen Rock Public High School

    • @SecretMarsupial
      @SecretMarsupial 3 года назад +9

      @@found_documents
      You’re a cool human

    • @emenikeanigbogu9368
      @emenikeanigbogu9368 3 года назад +1

      YESIIRRRRR

    • @spyce1102
      @spyce1102 3 года назад +21

      If my kid ever gets a bad grade I tell her “you’re still a good kid and I love you no matter what” but then we go home to study that darn boring subject that I’d probably fail too if I were in her shoes. 😅

    • @forloop7713
      @forloop7713 3 года назад +1

      @@spyce1102 or not study as it is a useless subject

  • @Ahliddin007
    @Ahliddin007 3 года назад +74

    2:44:05 "I'm not a great Haskell programmer. I wrote a compiler in Haskell once"

  • @stefandili2650
    @stefandili2650 3 года назад +144

    "Build technology, and don't lie"
    This is actually extremely good advice Mr. Hotz!

  • @dannybrown5205
    @dannybrown5205 3 года назад +234

    Lex I just have to say I really appreciate the timestamps. Thank you for the content.

    • @ciarfah
      @ciarfah 3 года назад +2

      @Joe Pak How can I apply machine learning to timestamps? Lol

    • @hpahpa6506
      @hpahpa6506 3 года назад +2

      @@ciarfah - Label Data
      - Speech to Text
      - BERT
      - Done.

  • @mrdbourke
    @mrdbourke 3 года назад +157

    2:12:44 - "The better technology always wins. Lying always loses. Build technology and don't lie."... worth putting on the wall

    • @Xishnik94
      @Xishnik94 3 года назад

      @Katka Švecová VHS is not the 'better' technology in any sense lol.

    • @blo0mfilter868
      @blo0mfilter868 3 года назад

      @Katka Švecová because of porn lol

    • @IgnatiusCheese
      @IgnatiusCheese 3 года назад +3

      Nah Windows, VHS, all new cars

    • @chavdarnaidenov2661
      @chavdarnaidenov2661 3 года назад +1

      The tech that won is called better, often as a consolation for the loss of diversity. E.g. in most big cities the car displaced the bicycle thanks to it's flaws: it's dangerous bulk, long brake-distance and poisonous fumes. We call the earlier the worse because it's comforting to view the later as the better. Many want to believe in automatic prosperity.
      We saw lately, that the "social technique"of quarantining and maintaining emergency medical supplies has been LOST to the Western World like the secret of the building methods of Ancient Egypt. And when we often hear that knowledge can be "too much" and people can be "overqualified", it's a symptom the poles have reversed.

    • @thebeanymac
      @thebeanymac 3 года назад +1

      Hello, these are my robots. Not gonna lie - they're gonna wipe us out.

  • @gregorystocker971
    @gregorystocker971 Год назад +20

    I love that this guy is not afraid to have lofty goals. Issac Newton also wanted to become immortal. Shooting for the stars and landing on the moon is better than never trying to travel up, and if enough people think like this, then maybe one day we might just make it to the stars.

  • @marketedgetrading
    @marketedgetrading 2 года назад +15

    Life changing experiences:
    1. Eliezer Yudkowsky framework for the singularity
    2. Hutter prize - AI is just compression
    3. Unqualified Reservations blog
    Book recommendations:
    1. Infinite Jest - David Foster Wallace
    2. Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand
    3. Permutation City - Greg Egan
    4. The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect - Roger Williams
    5. Neuromancer - William Gibson
    6. Snow Crash - Neal Stephenson
    7. Bronze Age Mindset
    Programming Language Recommendations:
    1. Assembly
    2. C
    3. Python
    4. Haskell
    5. Pytorch
    Thank you for the interview Lex and George!

    • @kruptworld
      @kruptworld 11 месяцев назад

      you are a lifesaver! i was trying to figure out what he said!!!

    • @loserdavictor
      @loserdavictor 2 месяца назад

      thanks, much appreciated 🐧🐧

  • @joopvanroy6599
    @joopvanroy6599 3 года назад +305

    I like how George seems full of himself at first glance but if you listen closer he's actually very humble.

    • @Whynot83848
      @Whynot83848 3 года назад +9

      This.

    • @LucidDreamn
      @LucidDreamn 3 года назад +28

      hes just very smart and his mouth can barely keep up with his brain. Elon has the same problem but it just comes off as him being awkward

    • @aaronmotta7028
      @aaronmotta7028 3 года назад +4

      True confidence is just intelligence being perceived by the younger intelligence.

    • @Epileptick0
      @Epileptick0 3 года назад +7

      It's because he has very little ego and thinks like a machine. That shows in his face.

    • @aaronmotta7028
      @aaronmotta7028 3 года назад +3

      @@Epileptick0 absolutely. confidence in itself is made of ZERO ego, but intelligence, which you can only truly obtain after you've shed ego. In fact, confidence is just the illusion that intelligence leaves behind on those who can't let go of ego.

  • @sammysam2615
    @sammysam2615 3 года назад +167

    George talking like he wants the Infinity Gauntlet

  • @InfoJunky
    @InfoJunky 3 года назад +38

    You could have George on every week and I'd love it every time! He's the best!

  • @eaojnr
    @eaojnr 2 года назад +36

    There is no doubt, Goerge is a connected brain. Enjoy his talk almost always, the depth, flattery, the dimensions and most importantly the abnormal approach to viewing our world.

  • @Boog1430
    @Boog1430 3 года назад +229

    "Python is so much better than lawyers"
    -- George Hotz
    -- Wayne Gretzky
    -- Michael Scott

    • @saintangels
      @saintangels 3 года назад +5

      read it as "python is much slower than lawyers" and thought "can't be THAT slow!"

    • @Cuyt24
      @Cuyt24 3 года назад +7

      Python is magical animal. My uncle in Florida is a big snake fan. He owns two Pythons.

    • @brandonkirincich8181
      @brandonkirincich8181 3 года назад

      @Wrulol That exists. It's still slow though.

    • @MrRolnicek
      @MrRolnicek 3 года назад +2

      @Wrulol And that's why you learn Verilog or VHDL ...
      Think fast ... no no, FASTER ... faster still ... good, then start overclocking the shit out of it.

    • @MrRolnicek
      @MrRolnicek 3 года назад

      @Wrulol Well ... of course it is. .. technically.. you can even use it to make an x86 processor if you want.

  • @huszartony4362
    @huszartony4362 3 года назад +67

    The way you guys looked outside the window while conversing made it so much more relaxing for some reason.

    • @keithkatane4854
      @keithkatane4854 3 года назад

      Dude!

    • @ernstgumrich5614
      @ernstgumrich5614 3 года назад +2

      one could see that they were pondering and did not throw out pre-fab answers.

    • @elliotparker7504
      @elliotparker7504 3 года назад +1

      I'm buying a suit and tie as per MIB

    • @christianalcala4565
      @christianalcala4565 3 года назад +2

      I only noticed Lex look out the window constantly and avoid eye contact pretty much the entire interview which made it hard for me to pay attention cuz when you talk to someone typically u look at them. Reminds me of a little kid too afraid to ask an authority figure for something so they stare at their shoes as they mumble out a query. Haha

    • @danipaolli8007
      @danipaolli8007 3 года назад

      @@christianalcala4565 it bothered me too. It's strange that he's avoiding eye contact with George when he didn't do this with much more intimidating people, like Elon

  • @nickfrederiksen4763
    @nickfrederiksen4763 3 года назад +48

    Amazing conversation guys! It's like two roommates at uni, late at night. Love the connection and content. Thanks Gents.

    • @mkballer4502
      @mkballer4502 Год назад +2

      only with the difference that lex is a con.

    • @catalystlover
      @catalystlover 10 месяцев назад

      @@mkballer4502​​⁠you have 32 comments on this channel, and they are all hateful. what a pathetic and bitter life you must live. i can see why you have a positive affirmation playlist, but maybe instead you should adopt a better mindset.

  • @theonewhobringstruth6102
    @theonewhobringstruth6102 3 года назад +13

    I love how lex makes his videos into segments so we can go listen to certain conversations in videos. That extra edit is so helpful for a learning experience. The show should be called the lex fridman learning experience like rogan hahahahha

  • @moosegoose1282
    @moosegoose1282 3 года назад +257

    “As an introvert this interview is very costly” lmfao sooo true bro.

    • @tootynuggets
      @tootynuggets 3 года назад +3

      Love it

    • @joemason31
      @joemason31 3 года назад +5

      haha, when is this said?

    • @hempwick8203
      @hempwick8203 3 года назад +4

      is this a reference to introverts needing to recharge? I'm only 1m in

    • @DweeD1516
      @DweeD1516 3 года назад +2

      @@hempwick8203 yes

    • @RR-et6zp
      @RR-et6zp 2 года назад

      we're a social species with our time alone, you're not special, psychology is BS, biology is true

  • @unreactive
    @unreactive 3 года назад +411

    "I don't care about self-driving cars. The real reason I'm doing it is to help solve General Intelligence."
    I love his honesty and being so straight forward.

    • @tonyh1345
      @tonyh1345 3 года назад +14

      Do we really want AGI though? I think we’d be just fine with narrow AI. AGI has the potential to become a species level risk.

    • @semtex6412
      @semtex6412 3 года назад +2

      @@tonyh1345 precisely! but it's nonetheless interesting. and i think great minds like this "species" interviewed in the video won't stop progressing based on that risk.

    • @yashaswikulshreshtha1588
      @yashaswikulshreshtha1588 3 года назад +7

      @@tonyh1345 Who cares even if it becomes risk, at least I don't. Don't you crave for that sci fi reality.

    • @tonyh1345
      @tonyh1345 3 года назад +5

      @@yashaswikulshreshtha1588 hell can also be a simulated sci fi reality in which you’re imprisoned forever. AGI can put us there

    • @yashaswikulshreshtha1588
      @yashaswikulshreshtha1588 3 года назад +1

      @@tonyh1345 But you will realize it's simulated after all, and you can get out of there. It's not bounding you with physical laws of nature unlike simulation

  • @martiruhay
    @martiruhay 3 года назад +164

    "Sorry divorce lawyers, you are gonna be replaced by Python."

    • @enveabaculak3962
      @enveabaculak3962 3 года назад +4

      by ethereum

    • @Steven19886
      @Steven19886 2 года назад

      @@BGMzRahii2k9 yeah, like the machines are not made by humans

  • @lululuna5774
    @lululuna5774 3 года назад +31

    “Being right is super important except at the expense of being wrong.”

  • @AndyChamberlainMusic
    @AndyChamberlainMusic 3 года назад +176

    Lex looking out of a window and saying "I fell in love with Lisp, the heart wants what the heart wants" is peak this podcast

    • @jonathanjarvis1878
      @jonathanjarvis1878 3 года назад +4

      got a timestamp?

    • @LadislavGalik
      @LadislavGalik 3 года назад +9

      @@jonathanjarvis1878 2:26:00

    • @viadharmawheel
      @viadharmawheel 3 года назад

      Gotta let Lisp go just like HAL 9000. Want something different, learn Haskell which is the mathematics of programming. Or if you want to stick with Python you can do a lot, try meta programming.

    • @remyclarke4020
      @remyclarke4020 3 года назад +4

      ​@@denijane89 I've been using Vim, and I tried Emacs. It might seem weird, but it was the first time I felt like my keyboard was powerful. I'm only a newbie, but it is just fun to use Vim like an instrument.
      It's kind of like playing guitar, or something. Do you need it? No. But it is simple, extensible and enjoyable. But it requires some practice.
      To be fair, it's "expert" software, not in the sense that it is elite, just that it is very pragmatic yet simple, and extensible once you learn the setup.
      I must have spent a week or two on both emacs and vim, looking up for tips and the like before getting used to either.
      In the end it doesn't really matter, because the bottleneck for programming isn't typing anyways, so everyone should use what they find most comfortable.

  • @sssloe
    @sssloe 3 года назад +112

    The first one with George, I came back to it multiple times. Giving this one a listen ASAP

    • @skoto8219
      @skoto8219 3 года назад +11

      Same, listened straight through three or four times. So much in there.

    • @Alashure6
      @Alashure6 3 года назад +6

      Good to know I'm not alone here

    • @salocin911
      @salocin911 3 года назад +2

      excited to listen. loved the first one. i thought i was the only who listened multiple times.

    • @MickDavies
      @MickDavies 3 года назад

      Yep same

  • @AleksandreMzhavia
    @AleksandreMzhavia 3 года назад +28

    This is one of the most interesting guests you've had.

  • @FORTEPodcast
    @FORTEPodcast 2 года назад +9

    I know nothing about computer science. I host an arts podcast. But the conversation style really has me hooked to learn more about things I have no clue about and take it as inspiration for my podcast! Thanks for your tremendous work Lex - hope to meet you one day!

  • @penguinista
    @penguinista 3 года назад +22

    "That's interesting. Let me translate that: You haven't really thought about what you do systematically." at 49:45.
    Hats off to Lex.

  • @abhiz93
    @abhiz93 3 года назад +5

    Let it be said. The most awaited podcast of 2020 was Lex Fridman & George Hotz. Literally, two intelligent intuitive people just communicating ideas about the status quo of the world & the potential humanity has to reach its pinnacle.
    Truly. Much awaited collaboration.

  • @AshRedline
    @AshRedline 3 года назад +5

    Please have George on again, I could listen to both of you talk all day long. Great episode!

  • @ezwalduzumaki3161
    @ezwalduzumaki3161 3 года назад +7

    Hmm. After watching this a 2nd time, I am still very impressed on how much knowledge george has collected, i.e. how smart he is. A true inspiration, all you need is the internet as he said in his stream.

  • @valentinfontanger4962
    @valentinfontanger4962 3 года назад +237

    In a world flooded by low quality content, this is gold

    • @fragmentedunity8694
      @fragmentedunity8694 3 года назад

      Ya

    • @maibster
      @maibster 2 года назад +2

      Are you saying that its only gold compares to the low quality content? Because I think this is simply objectively incredible and as close to perfection as humanly possible

    • @HipHopMafiaGang
      @HipHopMafiaGang 2 года назад +6

      In a world with enough high-quality content to spend numerous lifetimes consuming, this is gold.

  • @seanj6333
    @seanj6333 3 года назад +93

    It's funny, this guy looks like a regular bro, but that brief visual first impression shatters as soon as you hear him speak

    • @211212112
      @211212112 3 года назад +1

      Well ya know...

    • @chhimi4025
      @chhimi4025 3 года назад +2

      Everyone who comes on lex's podcast are nerdy as hell, it shouldnt be surprising.

    • @chhimi4025
      @chhimi4025 3 года назад +4

      @Aidan Hannah I agree I should've said "most", but imo Ryan hall felt a lil nerdy as well , I dont mean it in a bad way tho.
      It's people who are really into what they do who make the world go round so hurray to being a nerd.

  • @SpicyNoodleEnjoyer
    @SpicyNoodleEnjoyer 3 года назад +5

    I thoroughly enjoyed every single minute of this, Geohotz is on a whole different level

  • @aeonikus1
    @aeonikus1 3 года назад +4

    One of the best interview or rather conversation I've seen in a long time. Two great minds collide in an abstract and beautiful information osmosis. Lex, with your interviews you're doing a great work that's so beneficial for humanity, thanks for that :)
    It's also great to have people like Geohot in the same reality :)

  • @lachlanblennerhassett6410
    @lachlanblennerhassett6410 3 года назад +59

    2:17:57: "If the human species is going to survive, we should celebrate success." - Lex Fridman
    edit: You do inspire us (the world) Lex! Thanks for the podcast.

  • @mrdbourke
    @mrdbourke 3 года назад +25

    1:01:30 - "In supervised learning, the weights depend on the data, in reinforcement learning, the data depends on the weights..."

  • @manavnaik1607
    @manavnaik1607 3 года назад +2

    I love hearing this guy talk, you can see how much of an influence science fiction has had on this dude, even down to the calculations while Lex does the calculations based on the academic work to check

  • @SirLuke007
    @SirLuke007 Год назад +1

    Buddy is loaded with knowledge, conscious of it, and still remains a humble listener and communicator
    I’d love to to sit and hear him just talk freely with his buddies

  • @alexchomiak
    @alexchomiak 3 года назад +40

    The team up we didn’t know we needed

  • @carlrodalegrado4104
    @carlrodalegrado4104 3 года назад +17

    You know Lex Fridman is about to say something deep when he looks to the window

  • @lynnetalarico1412
    @lynnetalarico1412 3 года назад +3

    This is a great interview. I am a hardware engineer in silicon vally having issues with getting conneted to the vpn for the second day in a row. I can't do anything without a software license. So I started watching this and have learned a lot. Lex is so in turn with everything. Side bar my job is moving to Austin. Moving this year.

  • @BebehCookieIcecream
    @BebehCookieIcecream 2 года назад +3

    This conversation seriously opened my perspectives on computer science and theory. I'm going into a computer engineering program and really, really had no idea how broad the scope of this field is. So damn cool.

  • @JOOOOOOOE
    @JOOOOOOOE 3 года назад +64

    George Hotz love him or hate him, he is a fantastic mind.

    • @kevinhoalcraft
      @kevinhoalcraft 3 года назад +8

      Who would hate! Why?

    • @I2yantheGreat
      @I2yantheGreat 3 года назад +6

      Only morons hate George

    • @madeonearth6506
      @madeonearth6506 3 года назад +2

      I finally know who jailbroke all our iPhones years ago ! 👌

    • @drublod530
      @drublod530 3 года назад

      And a narcissist, spitting bullshit.

  • @QazJer
    @QazJer 3 года назад +302

    Me with a degree in computer science: I know some of these words

    • @1999_reborn
      @1999_reborn 3 года назад +3

      Did you enjoy studying comp sci? Also how difficult was it?

    • @rishabhghosh155
      @rishabhghosh155 3 года назад +18

      @@1999_reborn if you're intrigued by the magic behind computers, and then take in the fact that a computer only ever knows 0 and 1, it'll be a fun ride!

    • @aes9217
      @aes9217 3 года назад +10

      Degree in commenting?

    • @tonyh1345
      @tonyh1345 3 года назад +5

      @@rishabhghosh155 life is bits and everything can be digitized. Neat stuff

    • @tootynuggets
      @tootynuggets 3 года назад +3

      ML and AI... what's very difficult about this field is that sometimes a degree is comp science isn't enough.

  • @agustinvera1772
    @agustinvera1772 6 месяцев назад +1

    I thought this guy was nuts, but he is a brilliant guy. I am glad, Lex, you interviewed him again.
    Thanks for your perfectionism and hard work!

  • @NWforager
    @NWforager 2 года назад +1

    i love falling asleep to these . they say you can't actually learn in your sleep but i don't know about that so much

  • @ninjachan6171
    @ninjachan6171 3 года назад +12

    This is amazing to listen to Lex challenging George Hotz's ideas and having fun!

  • @omarnomad
    @omarnomad 3 года назад +29

    2:42:42 About the programming languages you should learn in order to understand modern stack from first principles.
    - Assembly
    - C
    - Python
    - PyTorch (Software 2.0)
    - Haskell (Functional Programming)
    - Coq (Dependently Typed)
    - Verilog

    • @Haos666
      @Haos666 3 года назад +1

      No Rust??

    • @omarnomad
      @omarnomad 3 года назад

      @@Haos666 can you elaborate why do you think is important from a first principles' perspective? Don't know too much about Rust but read good things about it.

    • @tonyh1345
      @tonyh1345 3 года назад +1

      Couldn’t I just start with python?

    • @omarnomad
      @omarnomad 3 года назад

      @@tonyh1345 Sure! I think his comments are more about really understanding computers and systems from first principles to all the way up. Let me know if you want help with your python project, I can give you a hand.

    • @jeremyschoffen413
      @jeremyschoffen413 3 года назад +1

      I'd put lisp on the list... I am a snob that way :)

  • @MarcusFred-wn3iv
    @MarcusFred-wn3iv 11 месяцев назад +170

    I admire the financial independence of people, But you can live better if you work a little more. After watching this I think there are people out there, on the extreme, who plan to die early just to be able to retire early. To each their own but to me, retirement isn't just about not having to work, it's about having the freedom to do whatever you might reasonably want, such as travel, buying things, enjoying life, etc. I don't think I could retire with less than $3m in income-generating investments, maybe $2m at the very minimum. I plan to work until I'm at least 45

    • @harrisonjamie794
      @harrisonjamie794 11 месяцев назад

      Nobody knows anything, you need to create your own process, manage risk and stick to the plan, through thick or thin while also continuously learning from mistakes and improving

    • @MarcusFred-wn3iv
      @MarcusFred-wn3iv 11 месяцев назад

      @@harrisonjamie794 Having an investment adviser is the best way to go about the market right now, especially for near-retirees, I've been in touch with a coach for a while now mostly cause I lack the depth knowledge and mental fortitude to deal with these recurring market conditions, I netted over $220K during this dip, that made it clear there's more to the market that we avg joes don't know

    • @harrisonjamie794
      @harrisonjamie794 11 месяцев назад

      @@MarcusFred-wn3iv Who’s the person guiding you

    • @MarcusFred-wn3iv
      @MarcusFred-wn3iv 11 месяцев назад

      @@harrisonjamie794 credits to *MARTHA ALONSO HARA*, one of the best portfolio managers out there. she's well known, you should look her up

    • @harrisonjamie794
      @harrisonjamie794 11 месяцев назад

      @@MarcusFred-wn3iv Thank you, I just checked her out and I have sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon.

  • @quoudten
    @quoudten 3 года назад +10

    17:50 "...I'm not pipetting shit.." 🤣🤣🤣

  • @RealOne697
    @RealOne697 3 года назад +138

    Hey Lex how about a podcast with Peter Thiel, i think he would be a fascinating guest.

    • @goofeydude22
      @goofeydude22 3 года назад +5

      This guy kinda reminds me of Thiel in the sense that he is constantly speaking about context and frameworks.

    • @baileysimrell4946
      @baileysimrell4946 3 года назад +1

      That would be incredible

  • @skepsis12
    @skepsis12 3 года назад +96

    Dear God... I didn't think I could love your podcast anymore... Then you go and hit me with Diablo 2 cow level metaphor for life.. Jesus man, I'd love to have a few beers with you bahahaha.

    • @mgp5555
      @mgp5555 3 года назад

      Lol I agree that was great

    • @laurasalo6160
      @laurasalo6160 3 года назад +1

      "Anymore" or "any more"?

    • @erichchan3
      @erichchan3 2 года назад

      When I used to have someone helped me with "cow level" when I created a new character I would call it "power leveling" in Hell mode.

  • @user-op2hx3le3e
    @user-op2hx3le3e 3 года назад +10

    He's a legend. Awesome episode! Did he really mention Slava KPSS along the way? I'm waiting for round 3 with George. Thank you, Lex.

  • @deepakpratap3792
    @deepakpratap3792 3 года назад +1

    Wow...this is very interesting conversation...I am listening this from 3-4 nights and finally it finished today...Thanks Lex and George 🤟🤟

  • @SolvingTheMoneyProblem
    @SolvingTheMoneyProblem 3 года назад +375

    This will be fun!

    • @PyjamasBeforeChrist
      @PyjamasBeforeChrist 3 года назад

      Hey mate. You might be interested in this recent chat with Jeff Dahn ruclips.net/video/pOQQTwYkg08/видео.html

    • @yongpark5302
      @yongpark5302 3 года назад +11

      Just like Elon, his heart is in the right place.
      Good to see you here.

    • @johnkechagais7096
      @johnkechagais7096 3 года назад

      It was brilliant

    • @swaggerrhinolol5100
      @swaggerrhinolol5100 3 года назад +3

      Their iq is larger than the iq of all of Wall St. analysts combined. LoL

    • @duplexdown
      @duplexdown 3 года назад

      tesla needs to come around to his approach to driving

  • @jamesgillis8122
    @jamesgillis8122 3 года назад +101

    Hotz is a brilliant guy, best interview I've heard in a long time.

  • @FlorentBerthet
    @FlorentBerthet 3 года назад +28

    1:54:23 "Google has declined so fast in the last 5 years" --> I would have loved George to elaborate on this. I think Lex sometimes misses good opportunities to ask "Tell me more" when a guest says something interesting.

    • @mmddyyyy-his
      @mmddyyyy-his 3 года назад +3

      i don't know about this too, but since he's fans of hackernews maybe this is what he's referring news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21382310

    • @spoorthyv
      @spoorthyv 2 года назад

      He talks about it a bit in a recent interview with dave lee

    • @jackstrada5263
      @jackstrada5263 2 года назад

      So many interviewers do this. They can’t quickly assess that just because they aren’t interested in hearing more, their viewers aren’t.

    • @willd.8040
      @willd.8040 Год назад

      I'm reading this before the interview gets to that point, but I've actually thought this myself recently. Maybe it's not true, but it SEEMS as if they're not innovating at the same rate or scale as they were for their first 15-20 years. I wonder if they just reached a point where they can't keep making the same kinds of leaps just because the technology needs to catch up, or get ahead enough for them to leverage it to become as innovative as they had always been before.

  • @anthonybacour2980
    @anthonybacour2980 3 года назад

    I needed to see a deep talk like that all my life. Thanks to both of you

  • @BobbyMontiel619
    @BobbyMontiel619 3 года назад +59

    I still remember when he jailbroke the first iPhone #legendary

  • @TallDrinkForAMan
    @TallDrinkForAMan 3 года назад +73

    Hotz Fridman 2024?

    • @realy7392
      @realy7392 3 года назад +1

      Well, Firman was born in russia.

    • @TallDrinkForAMan
      @TallDrinkForAMan 3 года назад +1

      @@realy7392 Laws can be changed. Career politicians might as well be born in other countries with all of the foreign and special influences they carry water for.

    • @GRMREAP3R97
      @GRMREAP3R97 3 года назад

      @@SimGunther funny how the current Republican president maintains undisclosed bank accounts in China. Probably it's a bi-partisan issue, ain't it?

    • @TallDrinkForAMan
      @TallDrinkForAMan 3 года назад +2

      @@GRMREAP3R97 Funny how a real estate mogul who does business in other countries...has bank accounts in foreign countries. You know what's the real joke that you're choosing to ignore? Joe Biden was the VP who peddled influence in the form of relief money if the Ukrainian Government didn't fire the prosecutor in charge of a case that involved the company that his son was a board member of... You're the definition of a hypocrite.

  • @GH-pu3xc
    @GH-pu3xc 10 месяцев назад +2

    Just binged all the George Hotz episodes! Your best guest yet! What an interesting person!

  • @idanhacmon5682
    @idanhacmon5682 3 года назад +2

    I am midway through the conversation. as a programmer this is truly one of the most interesting talks i've ever seen.

  • @EricLeCrennSanchez
    @EricLeCrennSanchez 3 года назад +59

    The way George Hotz speaks makes me feel like he could be a character in Star Trek TNG

    • @TheGeorgevt
      @TheGeorgevt 3 года назад +3

      Ya hes def an alien

    • @cosmicrider5898
      @cosmicrider5898 3 года назад +2

      We all could be but we livin week to week while hes reached post scarcity.. But dudes a Data prototype...

    • @joopvanroy6599
      @joopvanroy6599 3 года назад +1

      @@TheGeorgevt he's a rational human being

    • @Sekir80
      @Sekir80 3 года назад +1

      There is one: Barclay. He is much more shy, though. But in the episode when he became one with the highest intellegence, well, that has some resemblence. :D
      Edit: TNG S04E19 - The Nth Degree

  • @shango752
    @shango752 3 года назад +5

    Amazing podcast! George has really matured since last time. Truly self-aware of himself and his company.

  • @anapavia4379
    @anapavia4379 10 месяцев назад

    Lex, you have already created a product that encourages positivity. After I listened to your podcast for the first time, besides loving the conversation, I loved that most of the comments were positive. Then I knew I was entering a good space. Thank you for what you do and please keep going!

  • @OneBigMobb
    @OneBigMobb 3 года назад +2

    'The universe isn't that big', what a big brain statement.
    People can be incredible in some areas, but incredibly naïve and unknowledgeable in others.

    • @terrestrialcreature7481
      @terrestrialcreature7481 2 месяца назад

      He then changed it to our galaxy.
      Plus it’s in the context of aliens and taking into account how long our universe has existed, 1 million years to traverse our galaxy is maybe reasonable. Makes sense just he should’ve said it differently

  • @FelipeBRARSPF
    @FelipeBRARSPF 3 года назад +9

    This is this dude having those "crazy eyes footage" of old docs we see now in new docs about important people who are brilliant but crazy.

  • @bassNY
    @bassNY 3 года назад +137

    why does this guy's thumbnail always look like he's fronting a metal band?

    • @krispenev9935
      @krispenev9935 3 года назад

      Hahahah

    • @blo0mfilter868
      @blo0mfilter868 3 года назад +12

      @Barret Wallace his instagram is meant to make fun of social media influencers. though in one of his coding streams he said he wouldnt mind getting more followers because "it makes me look legit when I slip in those DMs"

    • @aaron4820
      @aaron4820 3 года назад +5

      @Rocky Dennis We should all be more like Rocky Dennis, look forward to your interview with Lex.

    • @afz902k
      @afz902k 3 года назад +5

      I fail to see that, I guess we might have different opinions on what a metal band frontman looks like. It's a picture of a guy wearing flannel giving a stern look. How does that make you think of metal? I'm genuinely interested in your answer

    • @robertoin7
      @robertoin7 3 года назад +4

      @Rocky Dennis bro you’ve been going through the comments saying shit about him did he hurt your feelings I don’t get it 🤣

  • @zackpane7973
    @zackpane7973 3 года назад

    I love how honest these guys are they just spill out many bald informations for us newcomers. Wholesome

  • @triestoohard1
    @triestoohard1 3 года назад +39

    "Reddit is group think" - YES!

  • @mrdbourke
    @mrdbourke 3 года назад +8

    1:36:03 - George is so stoked to announce "we switched from TensorFlow to PyTorch" hahaha

  • @AndrewNakas
    @AndrewNakas 3 года назад +5

    Thank you Lex! Your past couple part two podcasts have been so good! George is crushing the self driving game. Huge thanks!

  • @RHYTE
    @RHYTE Год назад +20

    he is so incredibly based i love him

  • @a_k__
    @a_k__ Год назад +2

    I really think it’s the time for the 3rd episode of this

  • @williamoseghare8584
    @williamoseghare8584 3 года назад +28

    Lex: "Oh wow, you're hurting my brain"
    Me the whole time......

  • @RKFCGSBGK
    @RKFCGSBGK 3 года назад +5

    Such good timing Lex was just looking for an interesting conversation to watch. Going to watch this all the way through!

  • @Butterflywings011
    @Butterflywings011 Год назад +1

    I could listen to these two talk all day

  • @brettshrekington
    @brettshrekington 2 года назад

    EPIC CONVERSATION! 2 GENIUSES WITH 2 VERY DIFFERENT VIEWS!! this is what the world needs!

  • @zelllers
    @zelllers 3 года назад +73

    He believes technology destroys the world, yet he makes technology. Absolute madman.

    • @carlos.santana.1337
      @carlos.santana.1337 3 года назад

      Devs too

    • @zelllers
      @zelllers 3 года назад +5

      @Brandon Spicer mass unemployment for nerds and the stop of growth that our economy is so dependant on.

    • @calinative5302
      @calinative5302 3 года назад

      Exactly

    • @Nil-js4bf
      @Nil-js4bf 3 года назад +8

      It's part of human nature. The scientists working in the Manhattan Project were aware that the technology could destroy us. But the allure of pushing the capability of humans forward can't be resisted.

    • @zelllers
      @zelllers 3 года назад +1

      @@Nil-js4bf these people are sickening

  • @Draxen
    @Draxen 3 года назад +5

    Man I wish you could do an interview with George every week, these are always so good!

  • @daddytachanka8076
    @daddytachanka8076 2 года назад +8

    Does anyone else think it’s kind of fascinating how George has a similar type of speech to Edward Snowden?

  • @overcheats4518
    @overcheats4518 Год назад +1

    watching it one more time cause of his recent comma ai 4 release what a hero, hope to see him on the podcast soon again

  • @blo0mfilter868
    @blo0mfilter868 3 года назад +33

    Damn 3 hours, thanks lex. Geo is a legend

    • @drublod530
      @drublod530 3 года назад

      An overrated narcissist at best

  • @richardcsanaki5531
    @richardcsanaki5531 3 года назад +6

    geohot is my favourite guest on the show, thank you Lex for the upload! now onto waiting for part 3 :D

  • @ryanvanbeethoven3362
    @ryanvanbeethoven3362 3 года назад +2

    This is stunning. 10/10.
    Lex is king.

  • @stotchmania
    @stotchmania 3 года назад

    Pretty incredible interview/conversation. Lex and George are great!

  • @theinquisitivelayman
    @theinquisitivelayman 3 года назад +38

    Been waiting patiently for this one.

  • @chrismackay9268
    @chrismackay9268 3 года назад +15

    Awesome, I find George extremely interesting so thanks for this round 2.

  • @alltkaos
    @alltkaos 2 года назад +1

    This was amazing, thank you both

  • @isnonormal4600
    @isnonormal4600 Год назад

    Lex. Always speaking 100times slower than thinking. Love you dude. You and JR are 1 and 2. Best podcasts ever.

  • @lencumbow
    @lencumbow 3 года назад +78

    Become immortal. Make a backup copy of myself. Then insert a cheat code to tell myself that I'm not immortal to ensure that my mortality-based curiosity is tricked into not knowing that I'm immortal. Brilliant.

    • @rockguy5821
      @rockguy5821 3 года назад +9

      Who says we are not there already and are remembering?

    • @matejpesl6442
      @matejpesl6442 3 года назад +3

      @@rockguy5821 Because people are dying. That's why.

    • @lencumbow
      @lencumbow 3 года назад +1

      @@rockguy5821 Meta.

    • @EgorZein
      @EgorZein 3 года назад +8

      @@matejpesl6442 you see how good this cheat code is, you are so sure that people are dying when they dont. They just go to computer haven and go to another world to play in :)

    • @rockguy5821
      @rockguy5821 3 года назад +4

      On the topic of death, or point of singularity, no Matter what you believe, science, math, magic, nature, religion, no one knows what happens after death. Death could be a construct created by scared people trying to make something solid which isnt. Our brains or ego would like to convince us that death is the end but what if our soul is the original player and just jumps into another avatar. (Reincarnation) its 3:33 am as I write this. Thus place is as magical as you believe it to be.

  • @NeoStoicism
    @NeoStoicism 3 года назад +28

    Love these two guys.

  • @blackpsalmmusic9180
    @blackpsalmmusic9180 3 года назад +4

    I have to say, I didn't know a single thing about Hotz until I watched this podcast with intent to learn about AI (self teaching c++ hoping to work in AI someday) and ended up working out some ideological troubles instead. Hotz to me was very relatable and Lex's thought regarding the finiteness of life was a simple but beautiful explanation to the wanderlust I feel when attempting to "choose a direction".
    Amazing content as always.

  • @jordanhansen4524
    @jordanhansen4524 3 года назад +1

    This was a great episode! Bravo guys 👍🏻

  • @AlexCulturesThings
    @AlexCulturesThings 3 года назад +3

    I really love the continued conversations with your guests. Reality is... even three hours isn’t enough to really probe the genius of a person. These continued conversations give everyone time to digest (first and foremost, for the guests and lex himself). Adds a depth and insight that most podcasts aren’t able to achieve.

    • @mkballer4502
      @mkballer4502 Год назад

      none of the depth and insight is coming from lex. pay attention.

  • @gerryakbar
    @gerryakbar 3 года назад +3

    one of the longest podcast you've ever made Lex, seems you engaged with geohotz so much!

  • @c0re93
    @c0re93 3 года назад

    Wow super interesting. Thank you so much for your podcast Lex and keep it going George!

  • @michael6955
    @michael6955 3 года назад +1

    What an amazing interview! 🙌🏻

  • @akash.deblanq
    @akash.deblanq 3 года назад +3

    Been waiting for this since a long time. Thank you to both of you humans.

  • @SkylerMorgan
    @SkylerMorgan 3 года назад +10

    Thank you for what you do Lex.

  • @DoisKoh
    @DoisKoh 3 года назад

    This was a really really good interview. Hotz is brilliant and has a good sense of humour as well.