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Ninebot Z10 650km Update Review
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2019
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You made such an enormous progress in filming and cutting the sequences together. Very impressive! I think you are the best now on internet when talking about wheels. When it comes to the Z10, I really wanted it until I lifted it up! Just too heavy. I continue on my V10F for a while. And when I will change, I will definitely watch your WEB, unless Brexit is screwing it up... Best wishes from France
Aww, bless you! Thanks for the support!
Hey you still have your ninebot one z10 if so u wanna sale it?!
My first e wheel was a ninebot one S2 and I rode it for 1800 km. I loved it. Then I bought the Z10 and loved it a lot more. It felt to me a lot more powerful and stable.
One day, when I was used to my new Z10 with may be 200 km, I took my ONE S2 and almost could'nt ride it! It seemed to me so tiny, soft and unstable... so I knew I would ride only my Z10 from then on. I sold my ONE S2.
Greetings from Spain!
A very detailed and unbiased review. My friend has wanted the Z10 ever since he started seeing me ride my V10 but doesn't realise that each wheel exhibits different behaviour and the experience isn't formulaic like a skateboard or scooter.
It's made me realise how beneficial a test drive or consultation service would be to new riders. Once PEV's get legalised in the UK (fingers crossed) and more popular there will be a lot of new riders who'd want comprehensive and personalised guidance from an Official Seller rather than rely on popular opinions at group rides or youtube videos.
It may be worth a thought for you lovely people at Speedyfeet! 😊 I know I would have paid to receive bespoke wheel guidance before venturing into the unknown! Even if it meant travelling all the way to Gloucester 😆
Thanks for the comment, which is also constructive 😁
Great review. I had the same experience when I first rode the wheel. Not friendly at all, but very good looking wheel.
Great follow up feedback video and its very helpful in making the decision on the next wheel.
Thanks for watching!
The Z is not compatible with other wheels, it creates a centrical force that keeps it upright and makes it extremely stable platform at speed and the most maneuverable wheel when going slow. Riders that come from other wheels take quite a while to get used to and trust the Z 10. Once you bond with this wheel you will learn that it never lets you down it’s like a rock or a sailboat with a deep keel it will always find its way and take care of you.
Agreed 💯
Great review, thank you Ian. have a safe ride and E+NJOY the E-MOTION
Cheers Michael!
More than anything else, thanks Ian for just telling us honestly how you feel about it, knowing that there are others who will disagree.
Thanks for the support Tony and watching!
A sound and fair appraisal. Admittedly I'm an urban rider, but towpaths and mixed terrain cycle paths are part of the mix as well. Even the roads of Bath where I live can be very iffy indeed with adverse cambers on steep ascents/descents. I struggled at first, but each week that goes by I love it more! I ride differently now to the wheel I started with... more 'pro-actively' I guess, and the Z10 appreciates this. Keeping one leg locked to the side of the wheel and using the other leg as a sort of 'outrigger' allows more control over the wheel's twitchiness. Things that jarred me before now don't nearly as much. I'm not even phased by the tramlining effect as much as I was, but it never disappears. It IS a permanent and unavoidable characteristic of the wheel, and this needs to be born in mind prior to purchase.
Glad you are doing well with it dude, you seemed at home with it on the ride out.
Yes overall I was. I didn’t push it though, which was probably wise! 😉
Thanks for that...so. Year. ...still no idea which now to buy :))) but another important video. Cheers
Thanks for the honest and entertaining review! I like my things bit axe-murderous to keep interesting ;)
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is my first and only wheel. Thinking of Upgrading. Looking forward to the second part of this review :)
Thanks for watching!
Awesome review, as a Z10 owner, I can totally relate to everything you are speaking of. The only reason why I "tolerate" many of the shortcomings of this product is simply the pneumatic tire. Given my weight (250lbs) my biggest fear is having a inner tube blowout turning my tire into a slug sending me to my doom. The chances of a sudden blowout on the Z10 is slim to none sans running over shrapnel or something. Once another company releases a solid rubber or pneumatic tire.. I'm on it!
Thanks for watching Richard! Yeah a blow out does seem very remote, its one strong tire. Would have to be a hefty crash or like you say shrapnel / glass with a big slice.
I currently have a Ninebot One E+ and wondering about this one, so very interested in the next vid. Is 1000KM a specific line for EUC's? And is there somewhere a comparison or review on a One E+ because I have no idea how that wheel relates to other wheels currently on the market
Totally agree. I had a little bit of a go at one. I didn't understand it. Wouldn't turn. It didn't feel playful at all. A different beast for sure. I wanted to like it. I had come from GW wheel and had ridden a KS18L prior.
Thanks for your insight!
Nice Review as always :)
Thanks Sven!
What would you buy to buy a Ninebot Z 10 or Gotway Nikola Plus?
Bit higher pedals and more battery would make it best for me. I still enjoy it non the less. Looking at other wheels taken apart I can definitely say this one will have no water issues . I have no Issues driving in shitty Oslo roads. As a matter of fact it passes over tram lines+pot(I mean them together) without any issues . Speed, I don't think you need more than 40 km/h for most rides. Range is fine but 30km extra(other wheels) is 30 km extra and you can't argue with that !
Great review !
PS: did try 18Xl , MSX, 10F .
Edit: And if you do crash, at least you do it in style lol !( best looking wheel period, 16x being second I think )
Thanks for the comment! Glad its working out well for you!
it's more fun to "try" to learn all the ways that you need to ride this little beast. I've been using it for more that 1.600 km's and for the last 500 i've figured out how to manage it in high speeds and how to avoid train-railing with almost 50% success. It's fun trying to figure all this things! :D
I agree
Polarizing review for sure. I do totally agree with you regarding braking - scary going down steep inclines which I now avoid. But isn't the Z10 one of the funnest low speed turning wheels (doing endless tight little 360's, etc.) around?
That intro with the exploding Z10 was hilarious :-)
Cheers Marty, yes, others are saying the same sort of thing, sub 15mph it puts away the axe and becomes a fun machine! 😎
I wasn't worried about Z10 rolling down the grass at all, it's proven to be one of the toughest and tightly built wheels out there, so I was thinking "nah, it'll be fine". If that was MSuperX, then it was a real trouble.
15 to 22mph on it is total fun for me.
Love my Z10 i have 3000km+ on it this summer. i only want more battery/range, next year im aming for a Gotway monster 3 plus
We wil have a review on the Monster 3 soon (84v 2400wh version not the others).
Thanks for the honesty, would not hesitate to buy from your store if I were in Europe.
I do have a question for the Z10 lovers: Would they love it half as much if it didn't look so good? I suspect it's 90% of the appeal of the wheel.
We sell worldwide mind :) Glad you like the wheel!
Well said and illustrated 👍👍👍
Thanks for watching!
You sure got your money's worth out of that explosion effect plugin😁 Very good review video.
Meep Meep 😂🤪
Very good honest review, nevertheless I am a proud owner of a z 10 now for 2800 km and I love absolutely this wheel with all its pros and cons. I use it on/off road 40/60.
For me It is the Harley davidson of e wheels!
Greetings from Spain!
Agree. I have ks xl, v10f and z10, and z is my favorite, not because of the design, its because that tank feeling. Roads are difficult in my city, and z is strong enough. Unfortunately was not my first wheel because of Ian videos about Z10 :). Now can say i am not agree with many things inside this video, but respect Ian honest opinion...
3rd. Agree
Try using control foot and the other for stability
I’ve got around 1000 miles on my z10 now. What I’ve learned is that it’s horrible off road but, on the asphalt it’s great. I now have a dedicated off road wheel (msx) and only ride the z10 on nice asphalt.
That's what I bought mine for. I'm not off roading. Smooth asphalt and concrete for me. I use it for work. Edit...I've been tearing up some trails on mine and I'm really enjoying it.
Ian great review although I've always loved the looks of that Z10, certain and honest reviews like yours had always kept me from indulging, and I believe Im happier for them! Way to go Ian 😜👍
BTW what happened to your hair? Hope it grows back soon you'll need it to keep your ears warm. 😆...lol
Cheers Jack! Hair = Wife 😂 Will have to get some ear muffs. I was happy looking scruffy...scruffy AND warm!
@@SpeedyfeetukBut scruffy was the image that gave coolness to your face!
You know you might have to resize your helmet now! 😜👌
Sounds like a wheel where I would have gotten into a lot of accidents on. Bad paved roads here where even on the x I had a few scares, but realized I panicked for nothing.
Next time someone asks me what i think of the Z10, ill just point them to this video.
kuji... im waiting for your review about z10. im about to buy z10 or vf10, please review z10 too in your channel man.
When you bond with the z10 , it will find its way through any obstacles
Except deep trails and hard slopes.
I disagree
@@paulgreenlee7123 disagree with what, harsh unfair real world? Z10's pedals are low, so riding offroad causes all kinds of trouble (comparing to MSX/18XL), even if we don't talk about how it wants to go where it pleases, not where you want it to go.
I agree. Haters gonna hate !
Great video!!! :)
Cheers dude!
Woooow. ... Really Great. Really a wish for me to have one someday
Could I use this to commute 3 miles
Hey man, thanks for the review.
I am on the verge of buying my first electric wheel.
I don't to spend too much really...
My question, have you tried the Gotwey Mten3? Because I saw the Ninebot Z10 and the Gotweg Mten3
If yes, what's it like in comparison to this one? I'm talking the 84V version...
Or anything else under $1000?
See videos on our page: www.speedyfeet.co.uk/collections/electric-unicycle-one-wheel-segway/products/gotway-mten-3-10-inch-unicycle-512wh
Hey I enjoy ur vids,u inspired me to be ah ewheel Rider,I lost mine due to flooding and relocating,then this COV-ID deal can't afford a new one but if u could point me n the direction of anyone who sale a used one preferably the one n this video I would appreciate it,if it needs a battery, or something like that not too beat up,... continue the good work bruh!!👌🏾👌🏾💪🏾💪🏾💯💯💯
It seems to me that this is really a matter of right/wrong tool for the job: Ian, you ride quite a bit off-road (presuming this is somewhat influenced by the fact that it's technically illegal to ride EUCs on-road in the UK) and thus you don't care for the Z10's ride characteristics on unpredictable trail surfaces as well as the less powerful downhill braking. Whereas Hsiang and RoberAce, who live in cities where it's legal to ride on-road, learned to love the Z10 once they got used to the more motorcycle-like lean-to-turn characteristics. Personally, I think your review would be more positive and a bit less biased if you just resolved that it's not a great off-road wheel and only focused on what its like to ride on-road once you've really mastered its unique riding/turning style. This might be at the crux of the arguments: right tool for the right job -- if you want off-road capability, buy an MCM5 or 16X; if you're an advanced rider, who rides ON-ROAD, and wants the unique challenge of learning the lean-to-turn style of riding, and of course willing to deal with the less-than-desirable warranty and service issues, then a Z10 could in fact be a very satisfying experience.
My names Dan & I’ve only really ridden the E+ for 5 years (airwheel before that) & I’d like to try this out.
Lol, sadly for you this is a different Dan :)
I ride on the loosest setting with brake assist turned off, no braking issues
Most of these guys never mention that. They all ride it on hard setting like its the most macho way. Little do they know. Cheers !
Its strange what you said about the wheel, that it force you to go where it wants (not where u want to in stright line imeditly). Behind me is about 1800km, it was my first wheel, many people share ur opinion, but I had have never notice that behavior. Maybe is just ur lack of proper riding skill on Z10 because u prefer EUC with thinner wheel?
In other words Ian, buy the Kingsong KS18XL or MSX.
Antes do Z10 eu tinha um Msuper3s + e eu concordo com você. As pessoas elogiam muito essa roda, mas é como um cavalo selvagem que se recusa a ser domado. Ainda não me derrubou, mas ela está sempre tentando.
I'm agree a little bit with your review, I have one z10 and is my first wheel and I have more than 3000km... All the people say that z10 doesn't turn and I'm agree, z10 don't turn, you have to turn and this is the best feeling any wheel can give you... Is not the fast and the more range wheel at all but the feeling of driving is the best!! And for sure is not an offroad wheel!
Glad you are enjoying it dude! Thanks for watching.
Nice review, where did you get your EUC stand from?
Full info here: www.speedyfeet.co.uk/products/euc-army-speedy-feet-euc-stand - note it wont fit the Z10 (as per description in that link). In this video it is precariously balanced in that stand 😂
Speedy Feet UK Will it fit a Gotway Nikola?
Yes should do 😎. You can see here it fits nicely on the footplate supports: ruclips.net/video/PQ7l7B9wIrI/видео.html
"note it wont fit the Z10" EUC Army offers a Z10 version. He's in USA, so contact duf@eucarmy.com for details on foreign shipment. eucarmy.com/store/euc-stand-21-z10-version-bolted-black/
Since this tire is tubeless, is it possible to use plugs aka "bacon strips" for flat tire repair?
I've seen videos on changing tires on these wheels and I'm trying to avoid the disassembly nightmare.
Thanks for any advice 🙏🏻
Take a look on ElectricPeople.org - Matt shared his approach with this topic here: electricpeople.org/post/https-youtu-be-1dp7fkres1y-in-case-anyone-was-wondering-if-and-how-i-fixed---60b54ecc0ff66a06c83bf662
@@Speedyfeetuk very helpful, thank you ❤️
Yes
Hello EUC fans! Me personally hate tilts back, had that couple times when wheel drop me back but never face plant, I ride Z10 so far. I like forest mtb tracks the most, after couple downhill rides with many harder brakes wheel is overloaded and gives a tilts back as result of sudden power cut off.
It stops me from going more aggressively, simply wanna come back home in one piece.
What EUC in your opinion is the strongest in case of tilts back, breaking, overloading?
Please give a shout!
Hope one day you will come southeast, seven sister country park etc. we have massive tracks along cliffs or calm rides along seafront. I call every UK EUC rider to come! The quickest connection from London to the beach is EASTBOURNE by train.
To those who watch this review play with the pedal settings in the app. Try the 4 different positions out. Not one single reviewer of this machine ever goes through this. Find a setting you like the best. Braking and handling will change. Play with the air pressure. You will be surprised.
вы не знаете почему автовключение фары куда то пропало? из коробки работало а на след день нет
Sorry not sure!
What kind of protections do you use to ride this beast? Can you leave some links please?
Checkout: www.speedyfeet.co.uk/blogs/help-and-advice/which-protective-gear-should-you-use that should help :)
You look more stable on the Z10 than some of the others. IMO. :)
Well I try ha ha, it looks beautiful on camera
your 100% correct if you want off road capability you will need to lower the tire pressure for more stability i tried to ride off road with the tire pressure i use for maximum road distance and it scared the crap out of me. After using this wheel for 170 miles i realize why this wheel has these steering characteristics this wheel is really designed to go under 15 mph thats why you get the farthest distance at that speed and of course it is capable of going faster but in a straight line for getting around vehicles or pedestrians then go back to a slow pace. the wheel size is deigned to maneuver at low speeds it all makes since.
I think you make a good point 😎
You can make at least same sharpness turns as any other wheel at any speed if you know how. You just need figure out the controls instead of trying to force/fight the wheel. It's completely different riding style and you don't need to clamp it even on offroad. Once you get used to it, it turns on a dime and is very predictable, stable and solid wheel. I have tried MSX, 18L/XL, 16X. Z10 still my favorite wheel, although I am going to buy 16x for more range and a little similar riding style to Z10. It's a matter of taste, but it's an awesome wheel for all speeds and all terrains. There's the Z10 and then all the other wheels :)
Algirdas Lubys I I am waiting on my Z10, should be here next Friday. It’s going to be my first wheel. I hope I get up to speed without scuffing it up too much. I figured instead of buying the ninebot one S or E2 etc to learn on, I’d skip a step and get to the real deal. I would think that the way people describe this wheel as being very stable at speed would make it safer for beginners.
@@jacobkeller29 sort of.. it still has wobbles at speed if you dont put feet properly on the pads. My advice is to get yourself a portable bicycle pump(with an extension) and let some of the air out so it wont respond so quickly then as you learn how to get on and off raise the tire pressure to get better distance and handling performance. I will say this when i bought mine they disconnected the battery for shipping dont worry though it comes with the tool necessary to get in the battery compartment and connect the proper components.
@@ciobreliai i wont say the z10 cant handle somewhat of a sharp turn but it still requires more effort than pretty much any other wheel
range?
I´ve had Gotway msuper v3+ and did not like it, sold it and bought the Z10 and love it! I think "Rober Ace" on RUclips did 10.000 km on his Z10! I run it at 28 psi, tried 40 psi and it was horrible. Probably gonna get the Kingsong 16X, just because i like EUC´S :-)
What would you Recommend for a 4km 12% Way on a Mountain on a normal Street?! Want to buy a Z10 after 4 Years of riding the Ninebot S2 but now its slowly dying =/ .... ^^
Whats your budget? Also worth watching: ruclips.net/video/BOvL94B9CJw/видео.html
Pop on over to www.ElectricPeople.org as well and join the community we setup!
@@Speedyfeetuk I ordered now a Z10 should be good for my purpose ^^ the S2 was 4 years so i dont mind and i got a good price. THX
What the? Your hair? Have you not read the story of Samson???
Great review again!
Lol, yeah, strength gone, cant even ride down a hill now 🤪
Speedy Feet UK haha!! You’re still the 👑 king! 😂
😝 Just need oil poured over my head now...
Speedy Feet UK and maybe someone to feed you grapes. 🍇 😂
hey can i come over to your shop and try out a fev wheels that may or may not suite me?? im 67kg and 175 cm tall
If you give us a heads up then yes this is possible, it just depends what demo units we have at the time - and that can be very hit and miss! (For example the Z10 has now gone off to Dan, MSX is gone to Pete, so we have V10F, Nikola 84v 1600wh, KS18L, MCM5, KS16S only currently).
Ninebot Z-series fb group:
facebook.com/groups/ninebotzseries/
So Speedy Feet UK , what is your favorite EUC?
If it will survive 🔥from first part of video in real life then it is more than a tanky wheel 😉 great review.
Ha ha, thanks for watching!
Seeing Hsiang and Rober Ace riding the Z10 made me realise it was the wheel for me. It’s my first EUC so I have no frame of reference, but so far I haven’t found it difficult to ride at all. Coming from motorcycles, I wanted something physical to ride, something that gave me that same sensation of hanging off the side of a motorbike. This wheel does that for me. It’s all concrete where I live so that is a plus I guess. Having said that, I did always intend to buy a second wheel at some point so that I had a choice of what to go out on, and the KS16X is next for me 🙂
Thanks for your insight! If you havent already checkout the KS16X review video we did here www.speedyfeet.co.uk/collections/featured-collection/products/kingsong-ks16xl
Same exact thing for me !
What’s it like compared to the Z6?
Z6 will slow you down earlier and not go as far basically (also no CE version of Z6)
I missed the explosion effect on the second fall!
😂😂
Are they still making new ones? I thought Ninebot gave up on these?
Still making them (EU anyhow! As we have fresh stock)
So I should get the M super x
MSX isnt made anymore, but its been replaced by the Msuper Pro, see: www.speedyfeet.co.uk/collections/electric-unicycle-one-wheel-segway/products/msuper-pro-100v-1800wh-2000w
Also sign up for www.ElectricPeople.org
Is there an electric unicycle with fat tires in the market?
Aside from this one? Next on the list would be KS16X www.speedyfeet.co.uk/collections/featured-collection/products/kingsong-ks16xl or the MSX www.speedyfeet.co.uk/collections/electric-unicycle/products/msuper-x
Checkout the videos in those links 😎
드디어 머리잘랐다 ㅠㅠ 감사합니다. 훨신더 잘어울리네요
ha ha, I like to look like a scruffy person though :)
If you learned to ride an EUC on a Z then you love it and if you learned on a more traditional EUC then you'll likely hate it. Each and every review of this wheel fails to mention that. I am of the former so I love mine. Feels like riding a sports bike to me. Good review though for the most part.
Hence my EXACT comment about the fact if this is your first wheel or only wheel its likely that you will love it or if you are a single terrain person you are likely to love it to (and the reviews on our site prove this). Thanks for watching dude!
Hello watching from Philippines
oneM tv welcome!
I hope I can buy this kind of bike😊
It is Youth if your very young 10 11 12 13 you can Jam on this wheel if your 20 plus its way different if your 30 plus its a new game .. Its a awesome wheel for my 11 year old but I am almost 50 this wheel is not for me but my 11 year old can just shred on any wheel .. its just youth and age this is a very aggressive wheel kids can handle it . its made for adults but its made for youth and fearless
I'm 60 years old and had no issues learning on this wheel. I'm a unicorn I guess.
I love to hate mine.
😂😝
Redesigning it with 3 inches tyre and it will better
Now thats an interesting concept, would change the ride entirely. Mind you it might not look quite as good either!
Where the hell are you supposed to ride the damn thing?? They're illegal in UK.
Grey area for sure. We ride them everywhere a bicycle goes and woodland trails. Been riding 6 years with no issues, even did 1080 miles for charity (England, Wales, Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, England), 13 days. Link to playlist here: ruclips.net/p/PLN2A3b85jdnPrMAgDpNf9FMSJnonLXVXm
You got one you wanna sell me for a decent price?
CE legal Version here: www.speedyfeet.co.uk/collections/featured-collection/products/ninebot-one-z10 grey importing will get you it cheaper..although watch who the seller is in that instance as many horror stories!
The price lol
Good ^^*
Thank you 😋
In the moment that you say that you ise the wheel with maximum pressure and you say that is better to reduce the wheel to tilt to one of the sides and the way that you ride this compressing the wheel against your legs.. I just have to say like i said in my review.. LACK OF EXPERIENCE.
650km
@@Speedyfeetuk my answer is once again lack of experience and lack of flexibility to understand that this wheel has a completely different approach when we talk about riding. I have 2000 miles in mine and is super rare to push ne to one of the sides. And i had that with high psi and when you say in the video that the wheel is better with higher psi.. Shows how bad is your feedback about the z10
Ok, dude, but its not ‘LACK OF EXPERIENCE’. Happy to take you out on some trails and demonstrate where the Z10 acts in the exact honest way I described in the video, and happy to pitch it up against a MSX in a head to head. Happy to film the whole thing and do a video challenge on A-B riding. Its not a lack of experience, its a reality when going head to head. But, wont be arguing about it in the comments section on youtube, happy to challenge any errr (for want of a better word) ‘pro’ rider on a Z10 on all the terrains discussed to demonstrate the reality.
If y granny had wheels she would be a skateboard..
But she doesn't.
So that's poo!!!