Ninebot Z10 Review BEST WHEEL EVER!
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
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My 2 month and 500 miles review of the ninebot One Z10 Electric Unicycle! And why I think it is one of the most interesting EUC you can purchase right now. Also, my weekly obsession: the SmallRig Cage for me Canon 80D.
the extra wide tire, the unique design, its heavy weight. everything about the Z10 is completely different from all the other wheels out there. Beyond the look, it also rides completely differently. But I think the its complex riding characteristic is part of its strength. Here here's why.
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Excellent video. Love that you're composing scripts and making them work. So refreshing to see some quality content in this realm.
Keep up the great work and you'll have a metal play button in no time.
EUCs are so niche I wonder if there would ever be that large of an audience but I do enjoy making these, so thank you!
Yeah this was the best euc review I've watched.
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I love how 2019 Hsiang didn't like going fast on euc.
Awesome video! Your description of the benefits and drawbacks of this wheel mirror how I often think about the onewheel, which is my thang at the moment. These EUCs are looking more and more interesting!
Thanks! I think the EUCs are generally a bit more practical since they are easier to wheel around with their handles than the onewheel and also are capable of greater speed/ range. I think the OW is really interesting and might jump onboard if they are able to squeeze just a bit more speed and range into the thing!
Very good review and good job detailing the particularities of a very special euc. Also enjoy your video editing.
Thank you! The Z10 is a polarizing wheel and I figure it would be helpful to add more information about longer term experiences with it. Glad you enjoy the video!
I ride the Z10 and completely agree. I was mainly riding a KS18S and they are so completely different. Stepping back on the KS after riding the Z10 for a while feels like you are on a super stable rolling wall.
I am not into unicycles but was curious about them. You made the time worth it. I learned a lot about them and you are entertaining as well. Keep up the good content and presentation.
Thank you!
I love riding my Ninebot ES4 kickscooter. It goes 20 mph top speed and just fun to ride.
Great video. Thanks for all your observations.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another entertaining video ... enjoyed hearing your own balanced assessment of Z10 ... I am still waiting to get mine.
Thank you and I am sure you'll love yours when the wait is finally over!!
Great video, enjoyed hearing your opinions and experience with the Ninebot.
Thank you!
Love your videos! Between you and Marty, you have convinced me to get a Z10. I live in Taiwan, so hopefully I won't have distribution/warranty problems like you guys do in the states. Super excited to get out in nature with it. I live in Pingtung, more farms, less big city, so I shouldn't have issues riding around here. Thanks for all your great information!
Thank you! I would love to see some ride videos from Taiwan, I also visit once a year usually right after Chinese New Year, hopefully I’ll have the chance to do a group ride with some local riders!
@@OWGAC yeah, I'd be up for it! As soon as I figure this thing out, I'll start putting up some videos. Let's keep in touch for a new year ride!
Great vid! I'm with you when it comes to speed, not just because of the physics of the wheel and breaking capability, but also because of the physics of the human body + speed = a force of impact I don't think many EUC riders are aware of. Safety gear is a must, but you'll still get hurt at +30 mph, and a bouncing wheel at that speed could be a real danger for pedestrians. Don't get me wrong, I love speed, and I have been doing ski jumping, alpine skiing and downhill biking, but on my XL I get more of a kick going 12-15 mph on a narrow off-road trail than what I get from 30 mph on level surfaces.
Thanks! And yes, very much so about the danger of speed. I have seen a Gotway monster cutout at about 25mph and aside from the rider getting hurt, the wheel also went bouncing down the road for at least 20-30 yards and at 72 lbs is a pretty scary sight. But aside from the danger, with the big stable wheel like the z10 I feel like there are some real potential for tricks at lower speed. Only downside is that its cost and availability probably put it out of reach for kids whom have the time to actually practice and come up with more interesting things..
@@OWGAC I almost pulled the trigger on the Z10, but having ridden a Onewheel+ for a year I wanted to eradicate range anxiety completely, so I bought the KS-18XL. The low speed stability looks awesome on the Z10, but don't feel any low speed discomfort on the XL. I'm more stable at low speed on my XL than on my KS-16S, so I think the balance of the wheel and how it fits your body is very important. If Ninebot gets a good European vendor and they release a Z15/16 (1554WH), then I would buy one, just because it is different and cool:) I'm sure I can love the XL and the Z10 equally;) The only thing that concerns me with the Z10 for my usage, is the pedal height on narrow off-road trails.
I heard a lot of great things about the KS 18XL, I am sure you'll have just as much fun with it. but don't just go from point A to point B, have fun, pratice going backward! If they can do a 900 on a skateboard I am sure we can pull off some interesting thing if we all just try to push boundary a bit more!
@@OWGAC The example you give is obviously based on an old wheel. I have several gotways and can guarantee that they cut out instantly when in a crash situation.
@@petercochrane1992 the one I saw that went bouncing down the street was a current 100v model; the wheel did cut out but at 25mph + speed any object that weight as much as a monster will go bouncing down the street like a Canon ball. Also since the motor cut out, the brake also went so the wheel will continue to turn.
Its always about the journey. And it does seem you are enjoying yours. Happy 2019
Thank you, Happy 2019 to you too!!!
Man, great footage/content! Thank you for the vid!
Thank you and glad you enjoyed my video!
Nice review, nice music and nice narration. Very enjoyably video!
Thank you!!
loved it great job!!!
Thank you!
Prise de vue superbe j'adore, bon run!
This is a fantastic review, I really want a wheel now! - my issue is I will be taking it on public transport (buses/trains) and up/down multiple flights of stairs so I need something a bit lighter. What would your favourite wheel be that weighs under 14kg but can still go at least 25km/hr comfortably?
Great video , i love my Z10
Thank you!
realy love teh video. i just bought a z10 and am going to ride it tomorrow in the woods and im realy excited to try it out
don't forget to wear protection and take things slow, its a powerful wheel and have a will of its own!!
Hsiang. thanks really appreciate your support for my safety😃 safety first
That wipe out, did you bang the face guard? I have a regular scooter helmet.
Yup, good thing I had a full face and the chin piece protected my face!
*Heavy when full*Excellent !! Made mywife very happy !!
Hi Hsiang.
I bought a Z10 recently, partly because of your videos.
Yesterday, I connected to the small (but existing) internal speaker.
It's not the loudest, but really nice to have sound on the road.
I wondered why you never mentioned or used it🙏👌
Best wishes from Denmark ❤️
Well, in the city I think music out of the wheel would be slightly obnoxious to others. don't know but if I wanted music I'd prob wear a headset.
Great review! I don't own an e-board or e-unicycle but have driven them when available. They are fun and I love having my hands free. I may eventually get one but kick scooters are just better for most commuting situations. I find electric kick scooters to be better overall for commuting and just getting around and have well over 7000 miles on them. They also can fit in my gym locker when folded unlike unicycles. Another big advantage you mentioned is the braking capability. It is no contest between motor braking and mechanical braking. My bigger and faster scooters have disc brakes or drum brakes. My lightest and most portable scooter has motor braking and rear friction brake which is the least capable. Even the least capable mechanical is better than motor braking.
I think any e-vehicle is a good thing to have on a commute but e-scooters don't really need as much protection to feel safe. I think the big helmet you wear when riding the Z10 is almost a must after seeing that crash. I hope you are okay. You are also prone to serious wrist injuries because of the higher risk of end over crashes. I have had some crashes over the many miles on my scooters. None of the crashes were anywhere near as bad as that end over you survived. I wear just a normal bike helmet and it has been more than enough protection. In the end it is great for people to use any of the great electric options we have today.
Thank you! Oh I love escooter also, as a matter of fact I started with a goped e scooter years ago.and its still sitting in my parents garage. I think EUC is different since you "ride" a scooter but an electric unicycle is more like an extension of yourself, which you control with your posture rather than a set of handle and throttle. You have both of your hands free and is able to mix with walking pedestrian since you don't really take up any more room. But yet they are harder to learn to "ride" than a scooter.. since I design enironment I am really facinated by them all
@@OWGAC Agreed. I really want to get a EUC or OneWheel sometime in 2019 to add to my electric choices for non-commute times. They look to be very fun and more engaging.
i am sure you'll have fun with both! IMHO the onewheel is more geared towards off-roading while EUCs are more for urban riding since they have more range and higher top speed.
500 miles? So jealous, I got mine at the same time, it looks like our z10 were on the identical flight lo. Bummer, I'm shy of 200 miles, suppose our ice-snow and winter weather up in Minnesota is to blame :-(
And yes, I'm with you, love my 'freedoom' aaah z10, and btw great voiceover, not boring or flat, good editing and cutover.
Amazing video man
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks!
Refreshing to get some more in-depth knowledge and different view point on this interesting device
Glad you enjoyed it, so you going to get one and join us?? =)
@@OWGAC I have done a lot of crashing in my time. probably going to stick to Esk8 for now. But I will put a little bit of money aside and we'll see.
"how fast does it go?" implies you've done you're job in ensuring the perspective of reward>risk factor; i get it all the time
It’s funny since I get a lot of questions while riding the Z10 around and people either want to know the range or top speed, but usually not both. I think its depend on if they view it as a tool or as a toy.
Cool reviews!
Thank you!
Great video. Do you know if it’s possible to charge it while on the go from a power bank? Cheers
Thanks! I don’t think so as my z10 will not charge when turned on, it only start charging when you turn it off.
Great video!
Thanks!!
what is the best wheel to get for 1700? I have hills and rugged roads as well as a long stretch of flat road to work. need your option asap want to make a purchase tonight or by evening tomorrow. thanks,
Graeat video...the Z10 is Supeeer!!
Ciao from Italy! 😃🕺
Salsa Experience Ciao! Thank you and love to see more EUC videos from Italy!
ruclips.net/video/nKR2z2hmwOI/видео.html
it's always me, here's my video ... from Italy 😃 it's very cold !!
I have had to buy a replacement z10 motherboard but it will not work? Do you know how to unlock the board please..?
I am not great with electronics, you should post your issue in the ninebot section of the EUC forum!
Great videos Hsiang. Informative, entertaining and great production value. I’m a fan. Can I ask you how you went about attaching the trolley handle without the mud guard? Sorry if you’ve covered that in previous videos.
I’m thinking about setting up my Z10 like yours today but was hoping that I don’t have to use or cut up the mud guard in the process. Did you find some kind of spacer?
Thank you, the mounting points for the mud guard is separate from the trolley so you should be able to just screw on the trolley without attaching the mudguard, I think you’ll end up skipping 3 screws on each side?
I thought you’d need some small spacers to take the place of the mud guard plastic inside the slots. Fair enough, I’ll take another look at this and see if I can figure it out. Thanks Hsiang
No, no washer needed, only thing is that it does leave the screw head sorta half exposed in the wheel well. I was initially a bit worried since they seen close to the wheel but I haven't had any problem with them. I do clean my Z10 on a regular basis to make sure that cruds don't accumulate so..
Cheers
Good stuff man as always.
Yes, the Z is not the best braking EUC, but IMHO, never straight-line brake, always couple with S-curves, which increases stopping distance. Every other device with additional wheels cannot pivot on a dime like a single-wheeled device (single contact patch) can, so it's not a very good comparison since mult-wheeled devices can Only straight-line brake. On an EUC, you will always have infinitely more relative side/braking turning area, when compared to the much larger, more surface area pivot plane vs side/braking turning area of a 2-or-more wheeled device.... that is unless you unwisely traveling very tightly in an eboarding/EUC group ride pack.
Thank you! Yes, I am actually use to turning as I brake, old habit from roller blading days. However not quite sure I understand your comment about multi-wheeled device and straight line braking as you can definitely execute a power slide brake on a bike as long as the surface allows it. Mechanical braking let you to lock up the wheel and use the friction between the wheel and the ground to scrub speed (ABS modulate for better control) I don’t believe motor braking on an EUC allows this since the wheel need to maintain balance also, so you can never lock up the wheel. At least I don’t think? Power slide on a Uni?
@@OWGAC Well, power sliding is a totally different maneuver, different argument altogether vs simple braking. I've seen it attempted somewhere on EUC somewhere on RUclips.
Bicycles are easier to powerslide I think not because of the braking mechanism type, but the weight displacements: on a bicycle, the weight is not directly over either wheel, whereas on an EUC, the weight is Always directly over the lone wheel. The former I think allows you to create this slippage, where the tires have less sigma weight on them individually, and you can offset the weight loads dynamically.
So just curious, why do you think that the Z is weak on the braking, the wider contact patch should had made it better at it? Is it its greater weight? Or some sort of weird control quirk since it currently one of the battery instead of both? Is braking on another wheel with similar motor, say the KS 18XL noticeably better?
@@OWGAC Yes, those are obviously factors, but the main thing is how they fine tune the firmware. The preprod firmware was a noticeably better braker, but also didn't have the increased forward power performance that this current firmware has.
As per the nature of EUC braking, engaging the brakes is the wheel essentially trying to go backwards. This, along with accelerating from rest; going up steep hills; and hitting bumps at speed, is the most taxing on an EUC, creating current spikes (unlike accelerating at speed, which contrary to common misconception, does not require that much power, as the wheel has momentum at its favor). You can see this phenomenon, as people who have gone overboard with hard pendulums can often observe weird behavior and/or cutout on an EUC.
Since the current Z firmware allows for more power going forward, much caution needs to be taken when fine tuning the firmware for braking, so as not to send too much braking current to the motor, which can potentially damage the motor. Additionally, the low 52V / 14S running voltage , which inherently requires higher current (A) to achieve similar power to higher voltage wheels, makes the engineering of the Z firmware for good braking that much more difficult
I'm trying to figure out if I want a unicycle or a board. Do you know any good channels like this one that does boards?
I think the EUC is more practical and have better range. But they are also more expensive as well so it's kinda depending on your situation and what you can afford.
Nice video, I too started with an i5 and progressed to bigger wheels. I have to disagree that the Z10 is the best wheel, granted it is good in certain areas but it's limitations make it really only half a wheel. Get a long term ride on an MSX and I think that you will find a new dimension in your riding abilities.
Thanks Hsiang. I have also the IPS & Z10 and sure relate to most of your comparisons. My final resolution this new year is "backwards riding"....looks like this lays ahead in your horizon as well. Please share your video when you do. Would like to see and hear your learning experiences.
Chapter 17? Thanks again!
I know! It is very tempting, I can comfortably skate backward on my rollerblade and snowboard so I feel like I should be able to do this. Need to practice more as I feel like it’ll open up some interesting transitions!
...you think like an architect...😁...one step at a time.
Hello, on the beginning of you video just saw z10 how blink the light. Front line and red one from the back. How you did it because cant find nothing in the app?
Oh that's just the video; something to do with frame rates and the way LED works, they don't actually blink.
Good content
Thank you!
Thanks for your video.. Any idea how this compares to the gotway m super x and kingsong 18xl ?
Glad you enjoy it, actually I have not ridden either and so do not have any first hand experience to speak from. They are both more “traditional” wheels, the Gotway have the speed advantage while the Kingsong is much better on reliability. So MSX for speed, Z10 for fun and KS XL for safe and reliable wheel?
@@OWGAC thank you
good video I'm your fan.😁😁
Thank you!! Going back to vlogging about the z10 next episode!
@@OWGAC see my channel, I have more Z10's videos. You may also like some TT videos.
Can I reset my z10? It will not balance only free wheel? Please help before I send it back
did you do a search on the EUC forum, specifically the ninebot section? that sounds like problem someone had posted about and maybe you can find a solution there first. Also, where di you get your wheel? if you bought it from Ewheel, you can just email Jason and he'll helpe you.
Z10 video is best video!
You took that face plant like a champ!!!
That almost sounded dirty. LOL
Since this tire is tubeless, is it possible to use plugs aka "bacon strips" for flat tire repair?
I've seen videos on changing tires on these wheels and I'm trying to avoid the disassembly nightmare.
Thanks for any advice 🙏🏻
You should be able to as long as the hole isn't too big.
takes guts to upload and talk about your own mistakes. thanks for the videos and the insights.
Staying below 15 mph? Sheesh I feel slow going that speed on my onewheel Xr. Just bought my 1st E.u.c last week. Logged 300 miles and I love it!!! commonly cruise at 20-28mph feels amazing! I love your videos they helped me in my decision
Msuper X 100v
Yup, if I have a OW I'll probably mostly ride it for short distance fun ride only. Hard to beat the range and speed of an EUC if you need to get anywhere more than a few miles away.
Hi Hsiang ! !! ! How I follow you since 1 year now. I wanted to share with you my experience as I see you are "promoting" #segway.
I have both an Inmotion v8 and a Segway z10. Both suffered (more than 5000km riding now) a tire pressure loss.
- It took 3 weeks to fix the tire with Inmotion Global
- It' s taking 4 MONTHS to fix the tire with Segway España through the Spanish service repair.
Useless to say, I sent so many complains this is the only way I can distress while looking at the empty box : Social media.
I think it' s fair everyone knows. because it' s thanks to videos like yours and other riders, I decided to go for Segway instead of another brand, to step up my rider level . I think this is something very important. I basically spent 2000 euros for an item I used 1 month before it breaks, and the service repair is unable to repair since 4 months.
Wish you the best and keep up the great work !
Best,
David
Unfortunately ninebot isn't very good at providing support; at least you have support in Europe, here in the US I had to pay for the parts needed to repair my z10 and I had to wait four month also. now keep in mind that neither kingsong or gotway offer support and only the dealer do. but ninebot does seem slow with providing parts, which may be why it took so long to repair yours.
@@OWGAC thanks for your reply. Does this mean is I decide to go for a gotway I wouldn't have assistance neither ? So is the only remaining good option Inmotion ? (I say this because I just repaired the V8 successfully with them for the second time in matter of weeks.
Well let me say : on one side, slow is better than unexhisting nah ?
Anyway I MIGHT have a good news. After weeks of calling and sending emails nearly every day in every language in every country, it seems my complain has made it up to China and they asked for a new Z10 to be sent ! The commercial said me that they would let me know within the next days. Crossing fingers, because so far the only wheel I have been able to enjoy on a beach is the z10, the other wheels tires are just too thin.
Hope you are enjoying the Monster !
See you soon !
I just passed up an opportunity to buy a nearly new Z10 in perfect condition for $900. I thought it would be a good rain/snow wheel but the fact it's discontinued scares me. I'm going for a Nik+ instead as my snow wheel.
Its what I use for snow and rain, other than the initial problem I had it now works perfectly *knock on wood.. =)
Can you help me with something, please? I keep looking where to buy the Z10 for a good price, but I haven't found anything so far. Any ideas?
AliExpress, buy from seller. Might have a tax tho
Z10 is so cool!
Wonder if you can modify two of these together and put a seat in the middle with some handle bar.
You would have made a Segway!! In my dream someone would make them pairable and allow you to ride them one to a feet, and with actual wheel differential that act as a cohesive system.
Damn I’m really leaning towards the Z10 but in limbo with the MSX. I need to make a decision ASAP cuz I’m purchasing one or the other this week lol
The other thing that might tip the balance's that the MSX is prob the last of that body design and from the looks of Nikola Gotway is going in a whole different direction so if you get the MSX now. You'll miss the update and end up with something that looks and ride old real quick! I am personally thinking about getting the monster when they release the new version this year
I grew up in Far Rock😆👍
I am obviously BRAND NEW to this one wheel THING but not new to the Electric transportation market, I actually have an ECORECO L5 PLUS electric scooter on my channel. I almost bought the One Wheel Pint, I thought I'd buy the One Wheel XR but the expense is KILLER😖!!
NOW I am turning my attention to the Ninebot Z10 or something similar. What do you recommend I do? This purchase would just be for fun and cruising. 😎👍........help
PS.......I just subscribed also I live on Long Island how do I find an Egroup to ride with like you demonstrated in NYC on your channel
Join the Telegram "NYC EUC Collective" group! you're close enough to make it to a ride in the city no? we have both onewheel; esk8 and EUC riders and once you see them side by side and the gap in performances, I think you'll lean towards EUC also!
Hi Hsiang, sorry to see your crash, was your helmet damaged badly from that crash, but looks like it protected you well. Will you advice to get a similar full face helmet when riding the unicycle?
No, it totally did its job and I didn’t even realized that I smash my face into the pavement until after I watch the video, the helmet looks fine except a small chip on the paint on the chin piece. I would definitely recommend getting a full face helmet for EUC since the way we fall tends to be facedown, and a regular helmet will not protect your chin/ jaw area.
I personally use a sport bike helmet, the HJC CL-17 for under $100.
I'm about to buy a KingSong 18XL .... Do you like that one ?? do you think it's a good option ?
I heard good thing about KingSong, mostly that it is safe and reliable, but I never ridden one. Have your rode an EUC before? Smaller and lighter wheel might be easier to learn on.
Sweet video man. Totally agree with you and your assessment on the Z10 and it's riding dynamics(Disagree 100% @10:45 about the gotways as well as a predictable wheel being boring. That's like saying driving a sports car that's fun and easy to drive is boring because it's predicable around corners or accelerating lol. IMO). Also @11:54 Your crash, like in your other video where you also crashed in like manner, is hugely due to the tubeless tires on your EUC, in that, you have a very low level of absorption from the impact (which to me looks like you hit something actually). I know this because I've been in terrible potholes in Boston and due to the softness of the impact, I made it out just fine. That's not to say It's not possible to crash with a tubbed tire in such conditions, but it's more likely in tubeless like yours. Be safe out there man, please stop crashing like this if you can help it. Happy riding
Yet many like a Porsche 911 because it's not so predictable. 😊
Dude ur a star
what would be the best country to live in, to get these cheap and fasT?
China, since that's where they are all made!
@@OWGAC thanks for reply! so if I moved to China, could I drive them legally, or would I need a special licence as a foreigner? Currently have an international driver's license, would that be enough? Do Chinese airlines allow them on planes locally? or would I have to use a train if I wanted tour China on ewheel. (goal would be to travel around the country creating content on wheel exploring different regions)
I am not really sure what the legal situation is in China, however I do know that no modern EUCs would be allowed on airline since their battery all exceeded the max allowed.
with all the safety gear, and full-face helmet, would you consider this pretty much broken bone free, as long as you don't go faster than 15 miles per hour?
I have read that people that choose to wear helmet are statistically more cautious, so it isn't that the helmet is keeping them safe, but rather their cautious nature that's keeping them out of trouble. so theoretically, fact that you are asking this questions means that you're likely safe!
As always a great video. I can almost completely confirm your experiences with the z10. Whether the range reaches everyone has to decide for themselves. However, the maximum speed is enough and for a little more speed you can now make the raud again 10 km / h faster via the software. what I feel differently is that the braking distance is only too long at the beginning, with a lot of practice, the z10 can be stopped very quickly and thanks to the mature on almost every surface. I hope it will follow more videos about the z10. What is your maximum range with the cold temperatures? (And weight with full equipment).
Thank you! yes, I do think that my proficiency with braking will improve over time, I use to rollerblade frequently and if I can brake on a rollerblade I am sure I can on the Z10 also! I am not sure about the cold weather range, however from my winter warrior ride; I left the first charge point with 95% battery (30F/ -1C and reduce capacity) and only made 15-16 miles (25km) before the battery drop down to 40%, and then the wheel won't turn back on after a 4-5 minute shut down. I probably could have gone further if I had not shut down, but I believe cold does have a significant impact on the Z10
thanks for the information. if your reach I find even acceptable. I only manage 35 to 40km at ~ 0 crad celcius. but I have a lot more weight, I think.
With a low budget and for thw beginning i would chooae inmotion v5f
@Mr. DerpyPanda good choice ;) often ita possible to get the v5f for a good price much lower than normal
I'm considering using this for WORK out in the country, driving through grass and dirt, and possibly going over fences. That's why I'd hoped this could be lifted over a fence, to continue on the others side. This is why 4wheelers aren't as useful to us. But we do have to carry shovels and metal detectors in a big that are somewhat delicate with a handheld tablet. But we don't go fast! Could it work?
everything you carried has to fit into a backback. weigth is less of an issue; since you're just basically standing in place. it might work depending on the ground condition you're traversing, dirt trail would work but if you have to ride over grass field it'll be tough since with a single wheel EUCs aren't that great with potholes. also, keep in mind that since you have to obsorb most of the bumps with your legs, it does get a bit tiring, sort of like sking or snowboarding.
Hi! How to block a wheel that children could not turn on it ?
unfortunately I don't think any wheels comes with this option. Inmotion wheel may have an app based software lock but I am not familiar with them.
Can you recommend someone in NYC to repair ninebot One Z10 Electric Unicycle Charging issue
What kind of drone were you using to capture the last sequence?
It was a DJI Mavic pro on loan from a friend; I had never flown a drone before and it was amazingly easy to fly and get good footage out of, if this episode wasn’t so long already I’d add a “weekly obsession” segment just to talk about the drone! May be in the next video!
@@OWGAC Loveeeee drone shots. looks so cool following you like that. you must have looked like a wizard to random onlookers that day.
Hey guys tell me 3 of the best models and brands right now - july 2019?
All depends, skill level, thick or thin wheel preference, speed or reliability?
Question...How many miles you average on a single charge?
According he does about 12 kilometers ped day???
hello friend.
I'm from Brazil, I need help, I'm looking for a BMS board for my ninebot z10. can you help me?
Thanks
Canon 80D sounds like Canon A.D.D., which is a damn funny name for a camera. Does it quickly lose focus? Does it behave any better in a cage?
The cage was mostly in case if I drop it! The focus on the 80D actually works pretty well. Lots of vlogger use it (and the updated 90D) because of the good focus and solid color science
I was joking. I realize that its a lovely camera, and you put it to good use. Keep up the informative vids!
Still have SOLOWHEEL EXTREME.. maybe later I will buy Z10
I am not familiar with solowheel but from what I have heard, lots have changed in the past year or two so if you do get the Z10 you are in for a major upgrade!
So what you saying is that the Z10 is unstable above 15mph, unsuited for navigating commuter traffic, requires retraining your body in order to ride competently and that I should never turn my attention away from this wheel even for a second lest I faceplant? It's a given that people will risk a lot for the sake of pleasure, but I don't get my kicks by riding a barely manageable EUC around heavy urban traffic. It looks like I will just have to settle for my reliable and reasonable Honda Accord - I mean Inmotion V10 - and enjoy the ride and sights with little to no stress. To each his/her own.
Very much so! If you enjoy your V10 there are no reason to upgrade! But its that like black ski trail you know you’ll bust your rear end on, some how some of us just can’t seem to stay away! =D
Im not easy to be lifted - weighing 100kg being 1.9m tall. Would z10 be good for a first wheel?
Actually for you the Z10 would make a good first wheel, it has more than enough power to handle your weight and good stability at low speed. But remember that it is very powerful so you need to remind yourself not to go fast. It is very tempting but dangerous until you improve your technique.
@@OWGAC Thanks! I'm looking for reasons not to buy one. Now I have non!:)
@@OWGAC It's been a while since the time we had this short, though fruitful, conversation. Oh boy, oh boy, my Z10 has arrived!!! Luckyly Saturday starts tomorrow and I'll have a chance to start learning how to ride a EUC for the first time in my life:)
Jacek Trybusz omg getting my z10 was one of the most exciting day of my life! Take it slow, it’ll take you a while for your brain to click in. Start with holding a wall but try not to rely on it too much. Also if you don’t have the factory padding, put some foam around it since you’ll probably drop it a whole bunch of time. But this is going to be so much fun once you get the hang of it!!
@@OWGAC I made entire photostory of box opening. Last time I was that excited was when my kids were born:) I wrapped the z10 in black foam stripes to keep it scratch free and I've been practicing during the weekend. I had six, 30min sessions with the fence being my teacher. Because I assumed in the beginning it will be a difficult task and didn't expect a lot of sucess I am more than satisfied. I am now able to start from standing position and go stright as far as my local street allows. Hsiang, thanks again for your videos! It was thanks to you that I decided to get myself the Z10. If you ever think of visiting Europe, you are more then wellcomed in Poland!
I just purchased a Kingsong 18XL based on all of the reviews and videos i watched. I look forward to my first EUC. :-) thanks for all the great videos.
Oh it's going to be so much fun if you had not ridden one before!! Getting and learning how to ride my IPSi5 had been some of the most fun I ever had. Take it slow and wear the proper padding!
Is this product also from Segway?
ninebot purchased and merged with segway back in 2015 so yes, this is technically also a segway product. their branding is a little bit confusing..
Good video!
I recomend you try Ron Zacapa Centenario..
Thank you!
Cannt really understand when u saying you we’re choosing between this this and ,,super x “ ?
My bad; I meant the gotway MsuperX
I am not sure I want to get anything other than the Kingsong 18XL still.
If you dont need super battery just get the ks18L. I love mine. Its an awesome wheel.
Everything I heard about the Kingsong 18XL were positive, it is a solid, well made and predictable wheel. I do like weird things so my opinions are skewed =)
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Well your face plant technique did stop you fairly quickly, but if you really need to stop in a hurry just run into a wall. You did make me laugh when you talked about the face plant being the quickest way to stop. No offense but you seem to be accident prone, I mean who has their selfie stick break and then running over it causing a crash? What are to odds? What’s next a meteor strike? I am really glad you are wearing the gear and it protected you, Good video, I like your narration, I look forward to your next, just stay safe. I Don,t think the helmet looks bad at all.
you kidding me that's my favorite snowboarding braking technique, find the cutest looking girl down slope of and and use her as your brake!! "ohh i am so sorry I am still learning! you are really good can you teach me?" =D
Awesome review. Im less than a month riding on my first wheel V5F. When I start maxing our at 16mph, it feels kind of slipper, as if I need to really be careful with how I balance, even when glancing to the rear the wheel likes to turn with me.
The Z10 probably won’t have that problem right? Minor adjustment. By the way I live on LES, id love to link up sometimes. Thanks. JT
Thank you! Riding dynamic really change once you start to go above 15mph as the centrifugal forces from the spinning wheel starts to come into play. If you only been riding for a month, I would take more time to practice on the V5F. Keep in mine that this is actually the time you would most likely to fall and hurt yourself as you are comfortable and confident enough to go fast but not experienced enough to react when something unexpected comes up. The Z10 is a more stable wheel just from the weight alone but it ride very differently at speed
Hsiang you nailed it. I’m def not experienced enough to react. Riding down bike lines with pedestrians not looking and cars not checking for us. makes me almost not want to ride on the streets.
I’m currently practicing mounting. I need to stop looking at pedals as I mount so I can keep eyes oncoming traffic left/right. Also timing my braking distance and simulate collision avoidance. Right now I still have to think what my legs/body should do in event of avoiding someone or something that comes out of no where. sometimes forcing me me to jump of the wheel because my reflex all bit delayed. I should stay away from the streets for now lol
Years ago I trained in Capoiera and one of the best thing I learn is how to not just look, but develop a sptial awareness of where everything is at all time all around you. They teach you the same thing on kayak also, since it is difficult to turn and look behind you. you need to pratice looking especially in traffic, keep track of how far is the car behind you, where pedetrian might be. etc. its a lot but very very good skill to develop, actually help you be a better driver also!
Hsiang agreed. I did become a better car driver since riding EUC. But unlike driving a car, where I’m already accustomed to the same streets I’ve driven on for many years. , I’m relearning the NYC terrain all over again, I think that’s the main appeal also riding this new mode on transportation, it seemed to have unlocked a fresh perspective of the city both full of excitement as well as its dangers.
Do your thing
you mean falling on my face? HA!
Which model at 04:50?
IPS i5
Have you had your left hip looked at? To me you are clearly riding with an uneven weight distribution and seem way more comfortable on your right leg. You may already be aware of this and be living with it! I have a left knee problem and have to very consciously even my weight distribution and effort to avoid favouring my right side. In my case this has helped to strengthen my weaker side.
I ride "goofy" with my right leg forward on both snowboard and also do the same with my EUCs; I do tend to shift my weight cosntantly since I personally feel that it helps me adapt to the varied/ bad road condition here in NYC; and I actively try to "carve" with the wheel, its fun you should try it!
Hsiang I love your channel by the way. Always interesting! Certainly for me, uneven weight distribution/foot position usually leads to wobbles. Also, sticky calves, give me trouble and yes, carving is the coolest feeling :)
Where can buy helmet like you have that white one. Face is enough open with that like you can speak good with it.
Check out the video description for a link, it is the POC Coron!
Yes
I stop fast. point toes, gets me leaning back a lot, and almost instantly, then dig heels in hard and it stops fast. Probably about the same stopping distance as on my bicycle, or close. I only go around 18mph or so, no real falls ever, not in the last three years, on a kingsong.
I got into a habit of always turning at the same time as I brake, for emergency purpose this is a better idea than simply try to stop in a straight line.
@@OWGAC I know that drivers education teaches that this is a very bad idea, not sure about unicycles, probably not all that bad but I would never do that personally, I always choose one or the other.
Alain Saaiman yes except that brake in modern cars works really really well, while brake in EUC aren’t that great (poor traction/ stability, motor braking only) my suggestions comes from 20 years of rollerblading where we had the same issue. If you don’t practice turning and braking at the same time, you may run into situation where there simply aren’t sufficient time/ room for you to come to a stop.
@@OWGAC I suck at rollerblading, never got the hang of it. On my unicycle today I hit a pothole and got air, my feet came off my EU but I somehow managed to land back on it as it landed, I just kept going, I'm 50 so it's probably a good thing I haven't fallen yet.
z10 or v10?
honestly unless you can get a really good deal, you should not buy either with all the new wheels coming out now!
@@OWGAC im just gonna buy one of them cus i found each one used by the same low
price
i sold my segway ninebot minipro this week and need something
7000 BRL
Oh in that case go for the Z10! Make sure that it is in working order, it is in my opinion way more fun to ride!!
2:24 GabeN
Sorry i had to.
Confused... =)
@@OWGAC Gabe Newell.
It's an older meme.
haahaalol awesome
=D
After seeing POC helmet on you. I realise it looks utterly ridiculous in design... Im going with a modular motorcycle helmet for the inevitable face-plant [z10 vs MSX style]
Great video.. but my god man.. you look ridiculous in that monstrosity, its not you, look at the angle between jaw line and the peak.. what were they thinking?.
Way to crush a dude's ego! LOL as long as you get a working full face, whatever you like's cool. But don't get one of those softplastic facemask style helmet. Saw a guy with it and it absolutely will not protect him in an event of face planting!
Many thanks. @@OWGAC lol it's all good, the great thing is you do wear a helmet.. kudos! I think your look is missing eyewear hence why it look strange to me. Thanks for helmet advice, appreciated... I know soon a face-plant is coming my way...
Z10 only if you’re very strong
Best Wheel is the MSX. All the people I know who were hyped up about Z10 have all sold it. Range and performance is lacking.
I think it is a bit extreme to call 28mph "lacking", speed above 30mph is extremely risky; we just had a rider here in NYC hit a car on an MSX, from what I heard, he hit so hard he dented the side of the car and send both him and the driver to the hospital. I get you want speed, but I think to the average rider Z10 is certainly sufficiently capable.
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Your understanding of braking physics is all wrong, bro. Motor braking isn't necessarily worse than disc braking. At some point, you're limited by the tire friction anyway. The motors they pack into these EUCs are pretty beefy, so their maximum torque is comparable to the friction limit.
EUCs need more braking distance than scooters because before you can decelerate, the contact patch needs to be moved in front of your center of gravity: the wheel needs to accelerate in front of you. It takes extra distance to make this happen. Typically you're limited here by how heavy the wheel is: heavier wheels are slower to accelerate (for a given maximal force applied by the rider's toes), while lighter wheels are snappier.
That said, is it a big enough deal to conclude that EUCs are unsafe at high speed? I don't think so. Nothing stops in zero distance; you need to be careful at high speeds anyway, regardless of vehicle type. In fact, I'd argue that EUCs are safer than kick scooters and skateboards because the wheel is bigger, so it gets you over rocks and potholes better. And the GotWay MSX's high speeds are actually a safety feature, when you consider that the biggest dangers on the road are cars: cutting across lanes of traffic is safer if you can keep pace with them.
I'm hoping to see more models with higher top speeds, creeping up to 70KPH. Especially the Z10.
Need I remind you that you a on a single wheel, which has only a single contact patch. There are no redundancy, you have zero inherent stability, is it possible sure. But I am not sure how you can argue that one point of contact is safer than two. Don’t get me wrong I love my Z10, however I think their strength is maneuverability, range and flexibility. If I want all out speed, I ride a motorcycle.
Btw I do admit that motorbraking can work well since I was shocked by how well the regen braking on the boosted scooter works.
@@OWGAC You're absolutely right: because of the lack of redundancy, we tend to (read: must) back off somewhat from the friction limit, which also contributes to not decelerating as rapidly. (I didn't want to mention it because I though it'd make my comment too long ;-) ). Motorcycles tend not to fare too well when they lose traction either (traction on front and back wheels is not fully redundant), but at least they do somewhat better.
Point was, though, that arguing that there is no point to going fast on an EUC because its stopping distance is somewhat greater is flawed: motor braking isn't so bad, and no matter the vehicle, it takes distance to stop anyway. Furthermore, the ability to go faster is good for safety, because it decreases the likelihood of being squashed by cars when cutting across multiple lanes, for example, to get to a left-turn. Chooch Tech shares this opinion. Perhaps this sentiment is caused by living in suburbia, where cars go faster and are less friendly (read: more murderous) to bicyclists and other alternative means of transit.
Yes, riding condition are very different in the city vs the suburb. However the same sentiment was also repeated in the motorcycle world for years. Greater speed allows you to speed away from trouble. I am however never sure about that one, yes it works sometime but if you're trying to race against an aggressive car driver, you are putting yourself in more danger than if you simply pull over and let things cool. Just last weekend, there's an incident here in NYC, where a rider but bumped by an SUV, luckily he was going slow and the fall wasnt bad, but it had happen at higher speed it could easily have been way worst.
@@OWGAC I see what you're saying: extra speed doesn't make you safer if you're going to be in a race; if anything, it makes the race more dangerous by allowing it to reach higher speeds.
However, that runs under the assumption that you will be racing anyway---an assumption which is usually not true. There are many instances when drivers elicit aggressive and dangerous behavior *expressly because* they don't want to be held back by a slower vehicle or bicyclist: they swerve, accelerate, and then cut you off. And because of their aggressive behavior, other cars around them will also behave less predictably. However, had you kept pace with traffic, they wouldn't have engaged in such behavior. In other words, simply being slower than the pace of traffic frequently triggers races.
In other cases, drivers aren't trying to beat anybody: they're just moving at the pace of traffic, and you're trying to cut across several lanes to get to a turning lane. By merging in front of them, you endanger yourself by being a slower vehicle that they aren't expecting and so might not see.
Assuming that a race will occur, a higher top speed will cause you more danger. But a higher top speed will reduce the occurrence of races to begin with.
@@zekerandolph1397 I also have been riding an Piaggio Mp3 500 for the past ten years. And I don't feel any safer on that scooter because it can go 95mph, I feel safer because it has 3 contact patches and 3 motorcycle grade Calibur disk brake. I met plenty of aggressive drivers in my past, they are easy to spot. I always pull to the side and let them pass. IMHO there are no dangerous vehicle, just dangerous people and behaviors.
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Lwo speed?? its 45kmh.. its fast imo
LOL speed is addicting and never seems to be enough =)
It was fast 2 years ago.., now it's just "ok".
Saw your vid on the rumours around the coming V12.... Now that sounds like an interesting wheel. A wheel that can maintain a steady 45 mph will be a revolutionary.
Hmm maybe u should change the title for this video now... Lol
I still love my z10! It's one of the few things I have where if I lose it I would immediately go and buy a replacement. Now I just wish that it doesn't take so long to have it fixed.
@@OWGAC yes however best wheel ever is.. Misleading... Poor people who look at your video and go thru same issues.. Knowing tech and gadgets there will be better things comming.. Doubt ninebot will make another u icycle for a while thou... But I hope I'm wrong... Hey when does the American patent run out which prevents them all having distribution in America?