I Suck at Starcraft 2 - Episode 15 - Covered in Zerglings
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- I Suck at Starcraft 2 is a tutorial series aimed at new/low-level players using the weapon of hindsight to analyse what could have been done better in my games and why they turned out the way they did.
In this matchup, I try to be too clever, screwing up my build order completely and then getting drowned in zerglings by an interesting double-hatchery strategy.
10yrs on and nothing has changed, this is such good content. I commend you TB, you found a way to live forever by touching the lives of those around you.
LOVE YOURE STARCRAFT VIDEOS!! keep them up! its really funny watching you suck at SCII cause, most videos of SC are usually ones that are played by pro's! And youre casting is really entertaining, thanks.
@Skruly Well that's just because it took a while to upload one after another. I did two this morning before breakfast, then ate a hearty meal of zergling on toast.
@McLovin5791 Alternatively, it's the big yellow text that was displayed at 1:16
You're the best! :D
All of your vids are awesome and hilarious.
Keep on the good work, plz, cause you're really making my day :D
Giggled at the commentators. Haven't played myself yet (tempted terribly), but I like to watch here and actually understand what my friends might be talking about.
Keep up with the series. ^^
@KHfanz Queens can do a few things. They can periodically "inject" extra larva on your hatcheries, which lets you create more units. They can also transfuse other units, which is a heal, and they can spawn creep tumors, which help spread creep. They can attack both air and ground targets, as well, and though they don't do great damage they do have decent range.
A double dose of TB in the morning, a great way to start the day!! :D
Your commentary is really fun.
Yay! 2 episodes in a row. Evening just got many tads better. :-)
Great vid TB! Keep 'em coming.
Great vid, as are all of them. Also, your high opinion of that zerg build is to me a very good indicator of the truth in the title of this serious. (Queens give more larvae for half the cost, asssuming you have a free hatch).
This is so helpful for beginners :) Thanks a lot TB!
@aardvarkpwnage909 I will not accept this slander on my channel. Any accusations or rumours that I have a life are nothing but lies spread by my opponents.
haha these series are so fucking awesome TB, i love it! looking forward to the next video!
Sweet stuff, thanks. I really should be making dinner right now, but I'm locked into this stuff.
My brothers starvation is on your hands.
I kind of miss your Terran games, you have some good tips for early games (since most of these videos don't go past the early game :P)
But in all honesty they have helped my Terran game so please keep the tips coming :)
Thanks for posting this and the previous video. It's now clear what you mean by "there are no hard counters in StarCraft 2, but in a way there are".
In this situation you want to get a sentry and force filed your ramp then teck into robotics and get some colossus that will fry the zerglings then you get a Stargate and get Void Ray's and with the zerg players lack of anti air you can take out there queen and main base while they struggle at not being able to get into your base thus making any number of zerglings worthless. btw Great vids keep them coming!
With that kind of BBCish English you colud make quite a career in the TV or Radio:D Luv your SC2 vids, please make more. I became addicted. ;)
Cheers
@xArtCriminalx Sure, 2-gate is the perfect counter to this build. What I did was not a 2-gate, it was a fucking mess :P
@xelibri21 Because some people live in an imaginary bubble whereby they experience Starcraft 2 entirely through the eyes of a tournament commentator, ignoring the fact that the vast majority of players are nowhere near that good because they don't practice 12 hours a day.
Elitism is very easy when you have absolutely no obligation to prove yourself.
These videos are very helpful, keep it up
You did well despite your losing. You clearly knew what you did wrong. Great positive effect for that learning curve.
@Jaffaarchfiend Watch the rest of them, I lose a lot.
Second hatchery in your main is a fantastic counter to 2gateway rush if you see it coming, especially if you scout it early ie: see both gateways being made and you've already got your pool being made.
I watch this over and over just for the bit where he says "Covered in Zerglings!".
Thank you for posting your videos. I enjoy your sense of humor. It also strikes me as crucial to make sure you have SOME positive postings. Is it human nature that most people are stupid and vicious and feel a need to make injurious comments, or is that people are stupid but Internet comments are a disproportionate cross-section of the particularly vicious and stupid?
Probably is really used to playing brood war where it was actually good to have two hatcheries in base.Expanding at 15 supply after a 14 pool is the standard strat used by IdrA, it can work against any build including 2 gate pushes and cheeses as long as you scout before hand. It gives you the biggest advantage against the other two races in the mid-game and you can transition to about anything.
lolz at the trollz and gg to both TotalBiscut and the zerg player and good job with the vids keep it up!
TorpiZoom is actually a friend of mine and I was surprise to see him in TB's video. Very nice play from TorpiZoom I'd have to say :) I tried to call him when I saw this video, but I have to wait for him to get home I guess. Now you can read my comment instead Wictor, gj :)
I supply block myself because im a dumbass! LOL ! Keep up the good work, just so funny to watch!
u should really continue with the series =( i miss them
Awesomeness at it's best!
best starcraft 2 series ever!!!!
I love to early three gate zerg by pumping out five zealots then rushing. If they survive then i use a proxy pylon and warp gates to keep the pressure until gg :P
Thwarts most early agression tactics. The forge is extreamly beneficial too for the plus one weapon upgrade. Crushes zerglings. Ty for that tip TB :D
This vid really made me wanna buy SC2! :) Love your guides biscuit.
@BPADizzle That's basically bullshit. He couldn't have ended me at all. He took damage on the way up, all I'd have needed to do was micro my probes away and kill the lings with my zealots.
I also like how you mistake proxy for cheese, yet don't seem to know how the game works, that's amusing to me.
@Ucada Geez it's almost as if the series is called I Suck at Starcraft 2 or something.
How does it feel to get really upset when you see a non-pro videogame recording? Is there some kind of ointment you can use for that?
TB has been playing WoW longer then most people posting here so yeah. He is one of the premier mages around and has followed the class as time has gone on.
Their are other mages as good as he is but he is one of the better ones to be sure.
I prefer to expand to completely random locations, if my enemy knows where I am on a big map.
That often makes him believe that I'm on one base and won't have as much resources as I do.
That also forces his army to go out of its way to destroy it, which makes his main vulnerable to my army.
Dude, biscuit, 2gate is the perfect counter to his build
"I dont want a coffee you from you...your covered in bees!"
"I like my woman like i like my coffee...uhh covered in Bees!"
imo the extractor at around that time is pretty staple to do so, fun commentary lol, enjoyed your failiure :]
Just as a tip: against Zerg research your lvl 1 weapon upgrade since a zealont can 2 shot a zergling and not 3, which helps sooo much!
Double hatch lings is an all in plan, but worth it. He micro'd the lings well on defence, but then just A-moved them in the counterattack.
@DreadAle Actually it's pretty standard to get an inbase hatch when speedling rushing because 1 hatch+queen is not going to produce lings at a faster rate than you gather minerals, assuming you saturated the mineral line.
@TheMeta88
I agree.
It looks like if the zealots had just dashed right into the zerg main, there's a very good chance he would have won.
If the drones run, take down the queen. She can't outrun zealots and is a large part of the zerg economy.
The problem is the inevitable counterattack. The position of the forward buildings is difficult to defend.
Personally, I think 2gate zealot rush is more difficult to pull off than 4gate.
i always forget these things too. i always start bulding suply depot when its 10/10 or something like thate.
@XHeliosxXx It perhaps.... sucked? At Starcraft 2?
More of those video's! They're way better than Husky! :D
Note to new zerg players: There is no reason to build additional hatcheries in your base as an opening build. If you are going to spend the 400(?) minerals on a hatchery, you might as well build it at your natural expansion to have increased resource collection. The only time this may be useful is if you are completely contained and are unable to spend all of your resources.
2 hatc in the main base, while not seen very often, is actually a good zerg build. You mine enought minerals to make one without having to sacrifice economy but it does deny you an early expansion. It is safer this way, you have better production but the idea is ... win without needing to expand (1 base 2 hatch zerg I believe it's called)
Total is an imba WoW player adding Starcraft 2 to his arsenal is just an addition :)
TotalHalibut, your placement wasn't actually bad at all. When you had the Zealots in his base, your placement was great inbetween the Hatchery and Spawning Pool so the Zerglings couldn't get a surround on you. Your placement at your Gateways wasn't bad either, the only thing that made the difference was for one, you didn't have any Photon Cannons or Stalkers to sit back and have ranged support. Two, its takes about 4 Zerglings to kill a Zealot, and he had about 5 for each Zealot that you had.
You HD, husky and PHTC should all do a sc2 game together!!! :D with some commentary hahaha.
surprised the guy didn't attack the pylon, which would have disabled the gateways and the canon in one shot.
Whenever you find yourself with an abundance of resources, spend them immediately. Even if you're spending them wrong, at least you'll have something. Like, if you get supply blocked when you're massing zealots, throw down another gateway and immediately chrono boost them when you get unblocked :X!
"Holy smokes, by build is failing, omg!"
That's what I say every single game I play.
Just a note: when you attacked that hatchery with your zealots, and the zerglings rushed in, you had a pretty good position between that hatchery and the spawning pool. What you should have done is walled in-between those two buildings and you probably could have taken that fight no problem.
I think attempting to 2-gate rush was executed alright. Unfortunately, the zerg player had his queen before you hit his base. During the zerg attack at 7:20, you retreat for too long and too far back; during this time, 3 of our zealots lose shields and you take 4 zealots of out range. In summary, it boiled down to attacking too late (that initial supply block issue) and maybe mis-microing at the end.
Well TB at least you are getting better, most people just don't bother learning from their mistakes
You could have held the zerglings off at the end had you just lined up your zealots in two or three rows at the choke and put them on hold position. You'd have been able to reinforce the line for at least long enough for your cannons to finish. Zealots + cannons blocking that entrance would hold off an infinite number of zerglings especially if you added some stalkers once your cc finished.
hahaha i laughed sooo hard when you kept saying ''oh god oh GOD!'' xDD
This is soo great! :D
@TotalHalibut hence the smiley face at the end
Just want to say thanks for all your vids! They helped me quite a lot.
And just a tip for other people who might practice against AI like i did: dont!
Custom games vs players are a lot more fun and less frustrating. Plus you learn more from it since the AI kinda does the same trick over, and over, and over...
Someone tried this on my when I was playing Terran once. I had just gotten my Siege Tank finished and Siege mode researched when he attacked my wall with about 60 Zerglings. They all died horribly and he left without a word.
It refers to the supply count you have when you build it. And SC1 is pretty different, so i'm not sure about the tactics for it. I've tried using some of them that I've picked up from these videos, but they don't seem to translate very well into Sc1 but that might be because I'm very new to it.
Very helpful for a fellow Starcraft-2-Sucker like me! :)
I love those cute little zerglings, don't you TB?
@Kadazik
Perhaps you missed the name of the series, it's learning for him and new players
Yea, it's kinda been there for 15 episodes, not to mention that he said that another player was alliance, noting the symbols, a few episodes ago.
Any new Starcraft2 video up soon??? They are awesome! :D
love the intro
YAAAAAAy finally another episode!
@Kadazik OMG THESE LOW LEVEL VIDEOS ARE LOW LEVEL, AS #1 SEEDED PLAYER IN THE WORLD I AM OFFENDED BY THAT
This is just a little tip, not as a 'you suck you should be pro and do this'.. but just a little tip.
Zealots PWN lings in chokes, the smaller the choke, the more your zlots are worth. For example, if you stuck your zlots in between that mineral patch, then it would have been a much closer fight between the lings and the zlots.
But more importantly, if you see his build again, make 1 more pylon at your choke, and put 1-2 zlots there on hold, so the lings have to fight the lots 1-2 at a time.
Stalkers in the intro footage looked so much more badass. Why would they change their look to what they have right now?
Guys, the 2 gate Zaelot rushes don't work so well anymore, maps are bigger now.
haha love the game. I did mistakes like this the first few games I playing during the beta. :D kudos to you sir for having sharing your mistakes with the world. Learn by doing is what they say I believe :D
Stumbled across this on random...
Kinda stung in the heart.
Rip man 😭
Lol. He invented the counter for "Terrible terrible damage". "Horribly horribly boned"
thats how zerg mass produced in the first game, but it usually waited till a little bit later, first game, at least for me was slower
Hello! ur doing really good for a new player. i bet you will get better soon :)
Great game =). I've just played a few games as protoss, happily on bronze my "2 gate defense rush to random hidden expansion to mass voidrays build" seems to work =D
What you should have done was transition into 4gate to block the ramp with Hold position. While defending you should get a forge for a few cannons. You instawin.
@DeusExInfernus actually they can. Skill level/rank doesn't mean that they're stupid and can't think about strategies. I've seen master and diamond players that only do all in builds and cheeses. They'll never be able to tell you what macro is and they most likely learned 3-4 tactics from videos/forums (not their own)+ how to cheese. Some even do 2 rax only, marine all ins only, canons/proxy only, etc. Look at the top masters/diamond right now that aren't zerg (mostly under 7-8 min games)
before he killed your lots the first time, you could've moved them into a wall and hold position so it's 2 lots vs 2-3 lings at a time
@TheShinigamiZ That last part... well it would be me. IF I scout and see stuff, I just don't know what to build to counter. I may learn eventually, but for now I just suck.
Just realized that on the Nexus there's the Horde symbol.
LOK'TAR OGAR!
OH GOD, OH GOD,WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? WHY ARE THERE SO MANY ZERGLINGS? - imitation of what Total biscuit must have felt like
please upload more videos of you getting owned hard/fumbling and bumbling your way into defeat.
@archlorddestin Trallagh upon thee. The rising of Taunton Street has yet to be portained, ken?
@shazbot322 HuK is ridiculous, Huk one a tourny with a mothership rush to a total recall of his army once he snick in, then put cannons under the cloak so he was photon cannon'd in once the mother ship had left.
Covered in lings eh? Been there....
Eh. Not me. Usually I have too much of a defense force for them to get anywhere near my SCVs.
Lolz at the trollz and btw gg to both Total biscut and the zerg player
Should have named this episode "Pool me twice..."
Now you might ask, why not build the hatchery at your natural, so that you get more production and you have the option to mine there if wanted? Well, the simple answer is that early on, it's unprotected, making it in your main is much safer.
So while I agree that most of the time it would make more sense to build it early (zerg always gets second hatchery early, for prodution reasons as said previously), it CAN be better to build it in your main.