2022 VB WRX Tuning Gains vs VA STI and VA WRX
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- The 2022+ VB WRX has been out for a couple of years and it’s one of our favourite go anywhere do anything and have fun while doing it car. We are not alone and a lot of you guys are enjoying these cars. What makes an already good car even better is of course more power.
The FA24 does not disappoint. It makes other Subarus envious of its power delivery and capabilities and in this video we show you guys what it takes to make the VB a properly quick WRX.
Come along as we tune the VB on both pump and E50 fuel and compare it to the STI and VA WRX.
Thank you Sky for letting us make your car faster ( / shortie_skyyy )
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0:00 Intro
2:26 Under the Car
7:20 First Drive
9:16 Baseline
12:08 Tuning
12:41 Intake
14:13 Back on Dyno
15:55 Results
22:00 vs VA WRX
23:33 vs VA STI
26:30 Owner's View
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I'm picking up my 2024 VB WRX tomorrow.. 12 hours and 30 minutes from the time of this post, actually. I'm not counting the hours and minutes, but.. well, yeah. I am a bit excited to get behind the wheel of the VB. I currently have a 2015 VA WRX which has.. rod knock. Surprise, surprise! Long story, short.. VB coming tomorrow to replace the VA. 🤘🤘
Congrats on the new car! Hope you enjoy it and when you get bored with stock give us a shout :)
The 2024 VB WRX I believe the ECU is locked so tuning is going to be a little difficult
@@matthewlituma9407 No, it's not locked. Thankfully. Confirmed this with a local tuner. I am however not going to tune it for the time being, leaving it stock. Cosmetic exterior and interior mods on the other hand, well.. game on. Eventually I will go the pro-tune route though. This is a given. My other VA WRX didn't last long before it was pro-tuned as well. 🤙
As soon as I saw videos of stock VBs pulling on Stage 1 OTS tuned VAs, I knew something wasn't right with the advertised numbers. Subaru is definitely underrating these FA24s (not that it's a bad thing) and I'm glad you guys explained that
Glad you enjoyed the technical deep dive!
Savage just dyno'd a vb making 270 whp with tune only.
This was great. I love this car and it always makes me happy
This is the best compliment for a car!
The VB is a powerful engine, however it's limitation is the gearbox and drivetrain which the STI has.over the VB, a match made in heaven would be and STI drivetrain and gearbox in the VB chassis.
Not necessarily the AWD system in the VB is simplified and works fantastic.
Yes the drivetrain is the same as the VA WRX for the most part. It works well but not as stout as the STI was. The STI transmission does swap in. It’s a bit of a project and you need a tranny, rear diff, driveshafts, clutch and dccd controller. We did this to our VA WRX and it works great.
@@Imprezalove It cant hold much HP around 350 tq and 400 hp for the stick the CVT is a joke for holding power. Lot of people are breaking the trans in the vb.
@@VvVZzZ00 Yeah sure, but most people arent trying to do a transmission swap and drivetrain swap, and most people arent attempting those numbers. Although I believe you are being conservative on the tq number. If memory serves me people do square up 400hp and 400tq and maintain their wrx transmission. Peoplle need to understand that even without the dccd, the transmission, the driveshaft, axles and so forth, that the VB is plenty without all of that. Would it have been nice from factory? 100% but a drivetrain swap is a big job, period. The VB AWD system with its computer inputs to me works fantastic. But yeah expect to break damage a transmission pushing those numbers.
@@Imprezalove100% agree, I don’t see why people always have to put in their 2 cents of STI transmission and how much GREATER it would be with.. Sure it’d be nice, but the VB is amazing as is. in the end most VB owners aren’t trying to get more than 350whp let alone 400..
i wanted to keep my car stock for a while but watching this makes me think twice 😂
We can help with that 😉
I'm coming for a tune as soon as there is a tuning software available for 2024 WRX
Good news. Support was released 3 weeks ago for the 2024! www.stratifiedauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=152_203&products_id=989
Very informative video! What spoiler is that on the VB? Need it for my WRB 😜
Thanks! Will have to ask the owner. It’s a nice lip.
Great vid. I like that the volumes aren’t boosted when mastering the vid. East to listen to.
-i wonder if any of those tunes burn up the cats.
-E50 with no hardware upgrade is safe on the stock setup?
Yes these tunes are safe. With ethanol we can also run a bit leaner and it is safer overall. www.stratifiedauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=152_203&products_id=989
@@stratifiedauto IDK how to order that. I guess put that I have flex fuel/want flex fuel? What about the ECUTEK/COBB/ECU license and connect device?
Damn, so the dam reseting every time you turn the car off would explain why my stock vb always felt like it was more responsive after a pull, thought I was crazy, and maybe just my foot was a little heavier after the pull.
It’s a bit odd. Good thing is it’s all resolved with tuning.
I will definitely be reaching out to Stratified for the Accessport on my 23. Especially after watching this video, I definitely have the itch to tune; and will certainly be going this same route (intake + tune) Thanks for VB love!
Looking forward to working with you. Intake plus tune and a bit of ethanol go a very long way.
I checked the website and couldn’t find any tuning support for the VB. I have a “stage 2” COBB package install and running their OTS. Are you planning on making an OTS for that set up? Or doing E-tune support?
We have the tuning support right here. www.stratifiedauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=152_203&products_id=989
Maybe I missed if you mentioned weather or not the full bolt-on STI was on ethanol too...
It was on ethanol, fully bolted stock turbo and flex fuel.
I was wondering if you were going to do a video on the new Cobb CAN Flex Fuel for the VA WRX? I figured you would use it on your VA WRX with the STI 6 speed swap. Curious to see the curve graphs of the torque numbers since the limiting factor is the trans
We will be doing it. However we already have that car tuned on ethanol. So power won’t change from what you see in this video.
My wifes 23 GT with just intake and JB4 made a "stage 2" Sti cry last week. put two car lengths on it in a very short run lol. He was especially emotionally damaged when he found out it was a CVT lol.
Haha it’s a strong motor for sure!
Try that with any STI running e85 and youll be picking up bits of your CVT on the side of the road
Lol no. Its my wife's car and basically stock. My 96 civic hatch with a laptop would gladly take the Sti tho.@@mrjoe136
My wife’s Explorer st would smoke your wife’s Cvt Wrx even with a 1k pound weight difference. It makes 525 awhp and 560 tq.
@@lucian7182were talking about CARS here young man. Not boats.
About to pick up a '24 premium in a few weeks.
What are your thoughts on the reliability of a 93 tune with an axle back and possibly an intake? I will be putting a decent amount of daily miles on it (work road trips), without beating the crap of it. Longevity of the drivetrain mostly.
It’s an excellent choice. The tune we built for the car on pump gas and those parts is both reliable and offers a worthwhile power bump.
A beautiful British Columbia VB in WRB 😊 😍
Thank you!
At last!
Since the DAM resets every time, any idea how long it takes to learn its way back to 1.0? Or if it’s safe to go WOT if the DAM isn’t back to 1.0 yet? I remember loading the stock tune back on my VA wrx a couple times and it used to do the same thing.
It’s safe to drive it yes. It just makes a bit less power until it restores. It can take a few minutes of driving after the car is warm.
@@stratifiedautoso by the time the oil temp is up, it should be good?
@@stratifiedautoi guess i need to go there at your shop and educate me about boost. Im so afraid to pro tune my va due for that don’t know how and when.
How much power can the FA24 hold and still be reliable ? Could this be the affordable swap for the sti ?
Time will tell about long term reliability. I think it’s proving quite capable at 400whp. This won’t be easy to swap into an STI because it is direct injection. However it does swap into the VA WRX or you can buy this VB and swap STI transmission and brakes.
How much boost is the tune on with 93 and e50?
The pump gas tune runs a peak of around 18psi and e50 tune a peak of around 20psi. Peak numbers don’t tell the whole story as we are able to hold more boost way longer in the rpm range on E50 without knocking.
I picked 130whp and 210wtq on just ets intake and an etune on e50. 22k miles like that, now i have an Outfront motor and bigger turbo because 400whp wasnt cutting it anymore.
How’s the transmission holding up?
@@stratifiedauto not one problem so far, at 22k same clutch is going back in with Outfront motor and hybrid turbo setup with PI (all e50 fuel-pi and di). Also putting Cusco LSD in rear 1.5way at 55/0 ramp setup. Adding a jpipe too and Borla catback (was all stock first 22k).
What standalone are you using to control The port injection and direct injection ? motech.Or links possibly?
@@beaches2mountains230 neither, a FrostByte controller with pressure and low level failsafe NOT integrated to native ECU, only visual. But its got 3D programmable tables to program injection duty cycle vs boost vs rpm. Homemade solution.
The Cusco LSD is awesome. This is what we run. It’s with this LSD and sticky tires on track that we stripped the pinion gear on our VA.
Is it possible to increase red line with the tune? What would it takes to safely run 6800-7000 rpm?
Tuners typically raise it up to 6500, mikeybotti does 7k RPMs but power starts dropping off at around 5800, so no need to rev that high unless you are on a big turbo or hybrid
Yes we raised a few hundred rpm. Unless you have a bigger turbo to flow up there there is no need to push it higher than a few hundred RPM.
Got my vb at 18 man but these car insurance want to charge me twice for what am paying for my vb
When you’re 18 insurance will be high for a fun car. Keep a clean record and it will come down.
Guyssss question….if i get the parts and the cobb port i need to go to a dyno or how is the tune thing…also anyone know tunes in Miami
You don’t need a dyno and we tune most of our customers remotely. Here’s the tune. www.stratifiedauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=152_203&products_id=989
@@stratifiedauto 🫡🫡🫡😍😍tyyy for the info
Did you have to change anything to run ethonal ?
Just the tune that is all
I'm still wondering why Subaru is being so conservative with the FA24 from the factory, even though they really overbuilt this engine, unlike the what they did with the EJ25. Unless Subaru is aiming for a WRX engine that can last for at least 500,000 miles with just regular maintenance.
This was supposed to get be the STI with a bigger turbo. Then the GR Corolla came along.
This engine is on the OXT/Ascent and is supposed to be able to tow 3600 lbs on a long trip. On a much heavier platform and on a CVT. The factory warranty is good for 60k miles. That’s what makes sense to me.
I am debating putting the Ascent motor in our VA WRX …
That would be interesting, specially with a STI 6 speed swap and The center differential control.
Seeing these results makes me angry at Subaru for not giving us an STI of this generation. I was going to make the jump from my '05 STI (R.I.P.) to the VB STI, but now I'll never have that chance, and the next one is going to be Yet Another Electric (YAE™).
Get the VB. Then down the road swap in an STI drivetrain and brakes. Enjoy!
Too bad the transmission can’t hold all the extra power that the engine can make! 💯👀
I know! We need the proper STI transmission in there!
FA24 is a great engine.
Shame the VB's look like absolute dog shit though.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
@heavymetalwrx 24:34 😮😮😮
Yup