A bit of prospective here, I’ve had a number of home studios over the past 30 odd years, and Garageband is a million years ahead of what you could find for home recording ten years ago. If your music needs all these extra tools to sound good maybe look at your actual recording process. For a musician Garageband is a wonderful tool to use to record music.
Amen! This guy spends all his videos dissing on GarageBand. I don't know why he feels he has to diss on GarageBand all the time. I have said before GarageBand is a powerful tool. It is more powerful than any Reel-to-Reel, and hard disk recording.
Guys logic is a professional software and GarageBand band is just for basic use you can’t compare them both. For a musician who just want to record himself GarageBand is workable but for a producers it’s not enough and GarageBand is free what more can we expect 🤦🏻
@@abhishekbonthu Your assessment of GB is flawed. GB is not basic by any means. GB can do more than most DAW , and it can do more than any hard disk recorder, and reel-to-reel tape which is technology predominately used in 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s, back older generations. The Beatles would have killed for GB. I can tell you are a young kid who was born into the DAW error and has no clue of what older technology had to do. GB is a very powerful and professional DAW.
I'm on Logic Pro Trial (90days!) during the quarantine and that's the kind of video that is really helpful to make some choice. Using Garage Band for almost a year now, I really want to improve my mixing skill. You got new sub!
I'm checking it out during the quarantine too. Been a garage band user for many years. Not sure I'll be able to switch back, but there's soooo much to learn, I might have to get rid of my real job.
You can record multiple takes on the same track and comp them in GB. It's simply a matter of changing a setting it in the preferences, then selecting the takes or parts of takes in the same track. I do it all the time.
One massive thing is that you can change tempo and time signature with logic within one song. I notice nobody ever mentions this and yet it is a huge fundamental difference.
You can change the tempo in garageband mid track, just open the tempo track from the top menu and automate the tempo, changing it where needed. As for time signature, I don’t think you can change it mid song, as you said
@@joshuastocks4760 but In garage band when you change the tempo you can’t lock the tracks. So in garage band if the bpm is at 90 and you switch it to 120 the song will speed up while in Logic you can lock the song so it doesn’t speed up but the bpm changes
You can change it mid song, you have to create a new section and that will allow you to change the time signature. Create section B mid way through and you can change the entire track
I've been debating on getting Logic for months now. During my songwriting sessions, I've definitely come across all of the Garageband flaws you've mentioned. This is the video I needed to confirm my Logic purchase!
Started recording in the box in 2007. Began with GB, which got me initiated into digital tracking, mixing, and working with loops. I think if you are serious about writing, tracking and mixing your music, graduating from GB to Logic is the natural progression
Definitely sold Logic for me. I've been getting frustrated with garageband because it's so clunky and it doesn't do what I want it to do/doesn't sound the way I want things to sound, so as a result, found myself recording less because it started to get annoying and tedious, rather than fun. I will bite the bullet and make the jump immediately. Thank you!!
Hey Nathan I enjoy learning from you thank you. However i can tell you’ve never really used GarageBand much. If you want to adjust different things in the compression u just click on the plugin where u can change the ratio or threshold and so on. U can also have multiple takes on a region. Just keep recording over each take and they r automatically saved. a little number pops up in the region if u click on it u can choose one of the takes or even blend them. I do agree it appears easier to use the cut tool in LP but cutting and moving region in GB is pretty easy also. Having said all that it seems logic is way better than GB. And I am researching it to buy it. Your audio skills r fantastic and I will continue watching your videos.
The important thing to remember is that GarageBand is cross platform between iPhone/iPad iOS and Mac OS. iOS doesn't support all the tricks that MAC OS does for DAW. GarageBand's beauty is it's simplicity and quickness of use. You can create projects from your iPhone/iPad in the field or desktop MAC ay home .. and import it into Logic Pro if you want to go all out on a production.. I think it's great having the two seperate DAW's so you can produce on mobile and fixed setups... Personally I use GarageBand iOS, Cubasis iOS, Cubase Pro, Logic Pro. Cubase has Chord Track which is brilliant especially for songwriters and arrangers, also Cubase has harmony generators for adding vocal harmonies.. Also Cubase Pro you can control pitch correction to a Midi Keyboard so you can play a melody on the keyboard and the vocals will be pitched to whatever you play... So each DAW has benefits.
10:25 In Garageband iOS they do have a record multiple takes option which basically creates a folder of takes numbering them 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.. very similar to Logic Pro X. You can keep parts from whichever takes you want, and delete (or save and keep hidden) the takes you don't want. I guess they don't have this option in the Mac Garageband version, or he just doesn't know about it. Either way, Logic Pro X is still way better for this, but I just wanted to mention there is a multiple take option in the iOS version.
@@NathanJamesLarsen Yeah, on GB I just turn the "loop" on while I record (region or whole song, doesn't matter), but editing those takes gets a bit wonky. I use to do it in ProTools and GB isn't as smooth as that but it works. Just got Logic which clearly does more with multiple takes. Other than that great video. Thanks!
Thanks Nathan - Been doing demos in GB for maybe 10 months or so and have started running into several limitations. This is super helpful in making the decision to upgrade to Logic, which I will be doing shortly! Thanks!
Been using garage band for a couple of years currently debating getting logic. I agree being able to cut and move audio being super helpful. I am not much of a musician at the moment and was trying to record some guitar yesterday after mostly using midi tracks to make hip hop instrumentals and for the life of me I could not get it exactly in time so that will come in handy. Great video I'm gonna go ahead and pull the trigger on getting it!
Sorry, Nathan It seems I keep correcting errors, but I do really like your videos and am subscribing. But you can do multiple takes i GB, but only when you're cycling. You have to turn it on in settings though and you can't comp from different takes. One of the greatest things with Logic is that you can open your old GB projects, which means you can record in GB (perhaps on iOS) and edit and mix it in Logic Pro X. Humbly, Ylan
I was going to mention that I recently discover (by mistake) how to do the multiple takes folder by using the cycle option. Anyways, I liked more the option he showed from Logic. 👍🏽
I bought the education pack while I was still in college and the biggest difference I noticed was certain things in iMovie and GarageBand that would require watching a RUclips tutorial to learn a 10-step process are just a single button click in Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro. The amount of time saved every time I want to work on a project was enough to justify the price tag (especially with the education discount, which still gives you a commercial license)
I just purchased logic, this is a great video. Logic is pretty simple to use if you want to learn anything about studio equipment garage band is a great start. You are limited to what you can actually do on GarageBand..
yes but i don't want to have to click a button or press a key to change tools! you don't have to do that in garageband, it changes when you go into midi zone.
I use garageband to edit all the time and in fact I think there are easy ways to do many of the things you say can't be done in it, but I'll have to go back and check again - but I do know I do a lot of very complicated edits with both imported audio and midi tracks and vocals all combined. The thing that's most problematic is getting a consistent output when you export from GB - it can often sound great in the GB app but then sound really bad over large speakers!
Because GB is so limiting I find it more difficult to use coming from using Logic in the past. You can still make a masterpiece on GB but Logic sure does make the process so much easier. GB has come a long ways compared to the older version it's night and day.
I started on GB and loved it as a starter. It's definitely usable but there's no question that making professional quality in GB is much more challenging for the reasons I give.
@@NathanJamesLarsen it's definitely challenging. I've managed to find workarounds being I have other plugins. Really what's a killer you can't set up bus channels since there's no mixer. I plan to upgrade to Logic once I know the world isn't coming to an end, lol.
@@ryanatx Yep - personally, my biggest frustration is editing capabilities. All the others are really important, but jeez, not being able to edit makes me so upset in GB
I’ve actually recently been able to use GarageBand on a MacBook. My goal is to master it and exhaust every option I have until I “need” logic. I don’t wanna jump into something I’m not familiar with at all. Working on my EP in GarageBand. I’m happy so far. But I do want logic at some point.
It seems that the main reason a professional DAW gets this entitlement in comparison to “amateur” or smth like this - is whether it has option for ROUTING signal. You’ve said about it in the video among other workflow/UI differences, but I suppose it should have been pointed out to be the breaking point. ‘cause when the routing is available - real engineering and mind-blowing production starts. And this means that besides creating some handful FX-bus-sends there is a possibility to sidechain stuff - and this is a kind of whole new level of musical landscape to explore that opens up - we mostly know and recognise the sidechaining in this ducking-instruments-to-kick-drum effect, but it is never limited to this specific technique, you may create any combo of this kind on any pair of instruments to create this sonically beautiful relation between them. and this is never limited to a kick drum and even not to a compressor - many of the EQs, filters, saturators, third-party and built-in - have the ability to be fed with a sidechained signal through a specific input channel for that purposes. but even if we stick to the basic “sidechain-to-kick-using-compressor” concept - you may still do that with a separate set of compressor’s parameters on a lead vocal track and on its reverb - e.g. one’s attack/release time is 1/2 of another’s and vise versa, even though they both are ducking to a kick. This creates the specific feeling and level of detail that makes us think that some magic is going on in the mix. Often these types of techniques create something that is impossible to describe, but only to feel. “better to listen to it once, rather that trying to explain in a thousand different words” kind of thing. so just to help those who’s still thinking whether to make a shift to a pro DAW (including Logic in this case but not limited to it) - hope that helps to understand what benefits are included to this move and what architectural possibilities you gain by making it, which Garageband lacks to really be counted for a professional tool. And this what really makes it worth the amount of money spent on purchasing. ‘cause all the UI/workflow limitations of GB can be walked around with some additional repetitive actions such as dragging the faders separately or duplicating the tracks - yes, kind of silly, dumb, outdated but who cares if it works and sounds identical on the exported WAV file to the one you’ll have exported from Logic using all these handy tweaks along the way. But signal routing - is something that GB can’t technically afford in its core and nothing can buy it in this case - either any amount of additional time you spend on repetitive tasks or any 3-rd party solution that is out there to purchase - and this what actually effects the output result in terms of production quality of a song and logically the ability and potential of a song to amaze and capture attention. P.S. u may even get insane-as-fuck and create 2-3-4-levels-deep sidechaining relations between tracks, and nothing limits or prevents you from exploring these wastelands of musical landscape if u feel it like the way to take your track to, that’s the freedom of artistic expression this type of software can offer. Well, maybe actually CPU performance cap will stop this journey at some point I guess lol, but not the software.
You use busses to actually make the process easier and better in your computer. So rather than putting tons of effects on each channel - you send the ones you want to ONE place where it is given the effect at the level you want. So say you have 10 vocal tracks and you want them to have the same reverb - you'd send them all to an effects bus where you'd have the reverb and now you only have one reverb instead of a bunch. I can make a video on it
I’ve had the demo for a little while one other thing that keeps me from using Logic is I do multiple takes of say the first guitar part but I like to be able to delete all the takes every time after I play it and do not like it until I get the one I want I did that on logic and it kept every one no matter how much I deleted they were still there I like to get rid of a bad take forever instantly that’s why I make two guitar tracks one one on left side and one on right I play along with them each until I get the ones Iike!
And when I tried to record another guitar track you hear the one I thought I deleted in the background and it sounded out of time this is why I haven’t went back! If you could do a video about these things for a guy who just wants to Do a cover of say Judas Priest point of Entry! When it’s done I’ll only have at the most 10 tracks I don’t want each track to have a memory of all 30 attempts at the lead guitar part etc. thanks for all you do for Dingbats like me.
Also in 90 day trial land. When I saw vocal comping I literally gasped and my jaw dropped. I’ve been cutting up my takes dealing with pops and clips and accidentally shifting sections with a clumsy mouse. Did my last project with 5 takes and was done comping in minutes.
I guess what I want to know is what’s the difference in the final product. I get that logic has heaps of tools and short cuts that make things quicker and more efficient. But it also seems like they make it generally more complicated for someone who gets bamboozled by being overwhelmed with information (me). The question is, is it possible (regardless of whether it takes longer) to make a track in GarageBand that will SOUND as good as the same track done in Logic Pro, or isn’t it?
I haven't made the video yet but I did a comparison producing the same track and while the GB version is still good - it isn't even close to the quality of the version made in Logic. Honestly though if you don't understand how all those tools work and how the plugins work then it's gonna be very hard to make professional sounding tracks regardless of what DAW you use.
Yes it is possible to make professional sounding tracks on GB! Many famous musicians use it! Try GB ! The workflow has been mind blowing for me and how intuitive is!! I felt extremely overwhelmed with Logic Pro because it has so many tools I never used! I am sure a súper profesional will live Logic more but give GB a chance ! I will not buy Logic Pro X for now and that’s for sure !!
This was helpful, tks. I have an old macbook, stuck in High Sierra - so I was wondering if I should make an upgrade to get Logic (can’t buy logic previous version) and/or use other daws like Reaper or Studio One. My main objective is to record my bass with my bandmates tracks, based on this video, guess GB is still good enough for me: other daws are too cumbersome to use...
Take it from me. I was using Logic Pro for so many years and there was something that wasn’t clicking for me. I realized that what was affecting me was the workflow, and I realized that after giving Garage band a real chance !! Now I don’t go back and I won’t buy Logic Pro x!! It’s mind blowing how intuitive and continuous GB is! My point is, give GB a real chance ! Logic has so many features that I never used !
@@TheShyArmyTV it's very easy to compose and record music in GB and thats the way it should be! when i try other DAW like reason, fruity loops, ableton etc i'm just thinking.. all this features?? i don't need them! can load almost any plug-ins you want in GB which is practically gonna give you added features in the same way like you're running a more advanced DAW.. IMO the less technical features and options the better, i can concentrate on making music.
This is by far the best Logic vs GB comparisons that I've seen. Apple owes you one, because they do a TERRIBLE job of selling Logic and explaining the benefits. Kudos.
Hi Nathan. Great video. I've been using GB for a few years now, about to 'graduate' to Logic. (Slightly terrified, lol) Just watched your bit about cutting/editing the vocal line at 6:12. Just wanted to say I'm able to cut and move my vocals very easily in GB. I place the playhead where in the music I want to cut, click on it, hover the cursor below the vocal line till it changes to a cross. I then drag and highlight what I want to delete, cut and adjust the track as you did in Logic. Maybe someone's already said all this. Hey, anyway, I won't need it once I'm on Logic!! lol
Hey Nathan. Good video and I just directed one of my subscribers over to it today who was asking if they should use Logic or GarageBand for recording their Nord Keyboard. Good stuff and thanks!
This video was very helpful! Also I’m using audacity and there’s a delay from my recording to my headphones(I’ll hear part of the last word I spoke as I’m recording the next verse) is there a way to get rid of that delay and does logic have the same issue? I’m considering getting logic but I have a feeling I’ll have a similar issue
I’ve been using logic for over 5 years and I was like fuck it why not watch this and I actually learned more from this than like random “things you didn’t know about logic” videos. Like just seeing your workflow and stuff. Really great video. (Only critique is the computer audio was in mono and seemed a bit messed up from the screen recording.)
Thanks a bunch - yeah for the audio, for some reason my audio was not recorded from my computer source so it was coming from my microphone - that is not how I do it, but I forgot to change my outputs for recording this video - sorry about that!
Not to challenge you main argument,but if you set record audio to loop in Garageband, you can record numerous passes (takes), and then cut and paste to put together a composite take. It requires duplicating the track and then dragging the individual takes to separate tracks and then editing, but it can be done.
Nathan Larsen Music As i am a student with limited budget, I am using GarageBand at the moment, but i can see its limitations and after your video i am sure i will make the transition to Logic. Thank you for the tips, it is really helpfull for those who can’t afford it at the beggining of their music production career. I have seen countless vids about this comparasion, but this is the best. You make great content :)
@@Ligger4 Hey! I started on GarageBand and used it for probably two years before moving to Logic Pro (back when it was, I think version 8 or 9). It's a GREAT starter DAW, and when you decide to go over to Logic, it'll be very easy to transition, since it's quite similar. Logic is just the adult version on steriods of GarageBand.
Nathan Larsen Music Obviously Logic has more advanced features than GB and you’ve done a great job pointing these things out. Your deep knowledge is obvious. Clearly you value these features and they make your workflow more efficient. The lack of a mixer view on GB is a big miss for me. However, whether someone can create professional quality results with GB or any other DAW is as much (maybe more) about talent as it is about technology? Some amazing records have been made without all of the precision, processing and editing capability of Logic or Pro Tools and with very meagre track counts in comparison to today? Engineers and musicians are inevitably going to look at things from different perspectives, but for me the guts of great music is mostly writing, arrangement and the performance of great musicians rather than the technology deployed.
@@donharrold1375 Thanks for the comment - I definitely agree that songwriting, arrangement, and performance are more important than the DAW itself or technology. I've been producing the same song in GB and Logic to compare, and some of these differences make a big difference. Not being able to edit is huge and does make a difference in the final product. Same with the vocal editing capabilities. At the end of the day, what I'll wind up with in GB is still gonna be good, but it's better in Logic.
Does Garageband sounds realistic? I'm using Garageband on IOS and it is so frustrating. My musics sound not realistic like any other musics. I'm just wondering; when i update my DAW to Garageband or Logic Pro X, are my musics gonna sound realistic? Or is it just me being a nerd at making music?
my question is dumb but if i buy logic do i lose garageband?or i can have them both?Im asking because it will take me time to learn how to use logic and at the same time i alreaddy know how to use garageband.😅
Nathan - thank you. Looking at all of the comments and watching this video - I am just beginning this journey of learning to record music. Would you agree that before I put $$$ into Logic-Pro, I should cut my teeth on Garage Band and get so I can be proficient at a free app and then purchase Logic? There are so many different applications out there for DAW’s - it is to me like going into a candy store and trying to pick one candy…. OR should I get logic and just learn on that?
Hi Bro, thanks for the great videos! can you make a tutorial video about mixing vocal crispy / brightly (EQ, Comp, etc) in Logic Pro X. Can't wait to see!
I believe that GarageBand (which is free), is intended to be a simplified subset of Logic ($200) functionality. I own and have used both. My current preference is GB because I am still learning the recording process and Logic can be a bit overwhelming. I intend to grow into Logic in time. I also enjoy GB and Music Memos on my iPad to easily capture new ideas. I think they both have a place in the market. Obviously you can take advantage of all the power of Logic! I appreciate your points in this well produced video! Thanks for sharing…
@ 17:57 if Logic Pro allowed you to draw automation with vector-style bezier curves it’d be game over I’ve been sleeping on Logic and it’s only $200 with a 90 day free trial. Amazing. Thx for creating the video!
Nathan, you are absolutely correct that Logic is a far more powerful tool. The reason I love GB, however, is that I can spend my time creating music rather than trying to make sense of an owners' manual. I'd rather pay a professional audio engineer to tweak and mix my mostly-finished GB files after they are opened in Logic. He will achieve a better final result than I could ever manage, especially with his studio resources. I've used Digital Performer for years, and it just took me two days to remap my MIDI devices after a recent update. And it's not that I can't learn; I have an Ivy League education! I guess the point is that DP and Logic are incredible programs, but only for people with the time and aptitude to master them.
Hi, I'm just wondering if you're familiar with LMMS at all as I have a question about a feature there that I am wondering if Logic Pro X has cos I can't seem to find it in GB (unless I am looking incorrectly). My question is this. In LMMS, you can place .wav file samples on a keyboard roll and change the pitch of the .wav file, thus giving you the ability to create melodies from these samples. Is this a feature in Logic Pro X (or GarageBand?) Tysm if you (or anyone) has a reply to this as I've asked elsewhere and gotten no reply.
Thanks for the great video! I have both Melodyne and Logic Pro on trial, just started to learn Melodyne (essential), and faced one peculiar issue with it. Would you say the Logic Pro pitch correction is enough for your case and you don't need Melodyne?
this is actually interesting, I always suspected garageband was basically the same as logic if you hadn't enabled the advanced editing settings but it seems a lot more restricted than that. None of these things alone are that big except not having buses and the simplified plug ins but all together add up to a big difference. Didn't even know about the flex pitch or alternative project version and have been using logic for years.
I just have one question I’m thinking about going to Logic Pro X but I am currently using Garage band which one is better for learning how to mix and master a track?
In just a few minutes of watching this vid I am going to move to Logic Pro X. I would like to find out how to explore more with you at the helm? My problem is I can play and sing. Don't want to expand my energies into learning how to become an engineer. Not lazy just into economy of motion. Have played professionally for decades. Moved from L.A. to the San Juan islands and now doing solo bits. So now I am recording and wondering the path I should take? I go by punkin but if that unnerves you Michael works too.
Hey - a lot of people self produce but hire out the mixing side. Depends a bit on what genre you're in with how much you'd need to really learn. Get the basics down - like recording technique (not hard) and arrangement and then hire out the rest. Again - depends on your goals and such too. I have videos that have more in depth tutorials on Logic too
I am a GB user,my bad. Of course Logic has tons of functions that GB does not have. If I would mix songs professionally for other artist I'd definitely switch to Logic. But as a songwriter which eventually do mix it's own stuffs,producing in GB is sooo smooth and the sounds are not bad at all. It just takes a bit more of patience and definitely good performances to work. Cross fading,that I really miss
Honestly this is convincing me I really might not need logic after all. 😂 Very well done video, but I don’t see how any of these features are actually *essential.* I never use flextime, for one, GarageBand *does* provide take-comps, using cmd+t isn’t all that inconvenient, and crossfading is possible with track volume automation…a few things I do agree with: 1) the Autotune in gb is terrible (even more so are pitch changes with vocal transformer 😬) 2) grouping clips is nice 3) being able to side-chain would be…awesome The biggest reason to buy though, for me, is just to be able to open logic files from my buddy who I’m co-writing some tunes with these days. 😌
I really want to purchase Logic, all these things you mentioned about GarageBand I have experienced them myself and they are indeed quite limiting! But I love the simplicity of GarageBand vs Ableton. I just hate ableton especially as a singer with lots of stacked vocals!
Logic is a natural upgrade from GB. I started with GB like 14 years ago and after a year upgraded to Logic and the interface is so similar that it was very easy to get used to.
Excellent video - I can see a purchase in my future! Questions: In Logic, is there a way to store an EQ setting? For example, I have a standard EQ for my singer which is used on all her tracks - Can I just create that once, and use it on multiple tracks? Also - is there a slapback delay echo available?
Yeah in Logic you can create preset channel strips so you can just use them multiple times - and yes there are several options for delay - I think Logic has like 4 different delays.
I just use GarageBand to sketch out songs to bring to the studio and let the band listen to the songs. Think The Beatles Anthology albums where you can hear raw examples of songs.
I bought Logic Pro X, but honestly i'm not advanced enough to do anything with it that Garageband cant. Maybe in the future. This is a really good comparison though.
He is saying that you don’t have the curve tool and things like that, not that there is no automation at all. Also just because his music is bad does’t mean his opinion doesn’t matter.
Got into production recently.. watched a lot of these reviews on buying logic over GB before buying logic and have to say looking back.. I’ve learned and done so much more on Logic Pro x.. not that garage band isn’t capable cause it 100 is % but Logic Pro is top notch DAW after recent update and out of the stuff I bought for a home studio I think Logic Pro X was my Best Buy
The reasons it’s better is cause it’s more interactive with the sound and there is always something new to learn.. also Logic Pro x makes for less work making it easy and convenient to use.,. Thanks for all vids Nate! Came along ways since March when I first started watching videos .. I will admit learning a new DAW isn’t easy and I still have lot to learn but the efficiency compared to GB is 10 x better and easily worth the 300$ price tag
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing that. Logic is so powerful. I love it. And yeah GB can work but taking things to the next level is tough to do with it. So happy you've been hanging around with me!! 🙏🙏😎😎
☠️BLACK BARON☠️ GB is simpler, it brings music making to the down bottom without too many nobs and switches to play around. That's my opinion. Took me a week to update from 10.2 to 10.3.4 to get the music software workflow up and running again. However, the time investment was worth it. The mastering and export function is much better in sound quality compared to 10.2. Version 10.3.4 is another sound level. Top notch music mastering quality 👍
Of course is more simple - it's not meant to be hard to use. It's a great intro to production but the things I've laid out in this video are important for those wanting to go past an "intro" and want to dive deeper
You make some erroneous statements about GB in this video. You can do multiple takes and comp on the same track. You can automate not only volume and panning controls, but all kinds of parameters in GB plugins. Of course, Logic has more features, but GB is free and it's very powerful. Lots of songwriters like its ease of use and don't want or need all of Logic's bells and whistles. Further, good engineers can record, mix and master using any software, incuding GB. GB may not be your thing, and that's fine. But to say that people can't produce professional quality songs using GB is just nonsense.
I am 62 We cut records on eight track half-inch Tape 16 track two inch 24 adat. Roland aki machines digital .I hit song is a hit song no matter what you record that on . Get you a nice audio in a phase with a great clock nice Mike pres Play it all the way down do you get it right all that editing don’t know But I know all the great records were done the way I just said that’s why there’s not really good music Lack of musicianship
Thanks Nathan...i recently strated making my own music tracks..basically a vocalist. Also recently switched to Logic from GB, and ur video is very helpful. Also looking for collabs on you tube..plz reply if anyone’s interested.
Interesting video - thanks. I’m kinda surprised that it was needed as GarageBand is free (and by all accounts, pretty damn awesome despite that) and Logic a professional tool. Like iMovie to Final Cut. Still tempted by Logic as GarageBand does not recognise the MIDI commands sent by the sliders and knobs on my keyboard
It's interesting there is this vid that shows the diff between a DAW that comes stock on Mac et al vs. a vastly more expensive and pro level DAW...Um Ya..Like a video showing how a heavy weight boxer is a superior athlete vs. a 7 year old child...what was the vision and point of this vid? GB is a great enabler of everyday bedroom producers.. Then you go to Logic which is the same but with next level capabilities. GB is a gateway drug into Apple/Mac recording environment..The more music in the world, the better.... bad or good. The ones that continue...go to logic.
The point is to show those who are using GB and are considering Logic but not sure what the differences are. I've heard the question enough times which is why I focus on things Logic can do that GB cannot to explain some of the key differences .I never said don't use GB or that GB is bad. I started with GB and loved it - as you said it's the gateway to the bigger stuff and it was for me.
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A bit of prospective here, I’ve had a number of home studios over the past 30 odd years, and Garageband is a million years ahead of what you could find for home recording ten years ago. If your music needs all these extra tools to sound good maybe look at your actual recording process. For a musician Garageband is a wonderful tool to use to record music.
Amen! This guy spends all his videos dissing on GarageBand. I don't know why he feels he has to diss on GarageBand all the time. I have said before GarageBand is a powerful tool. It is more powerful than any Reel-to-Reel, and hard disk recording.
Guys logic is a professional software and GarageBand band is just for basic use you can’t compare them both. For a musician who just want to record himself GarageBand is workable but for a producers it’s not enough and GarageBand is free what more can we expect 🤦🏻
@@abhishekbonthu Your assessment of GB is flawed. GB is not basic by any means. GB can do more than most DAW , and it can do more than any hard disk recorder, and reel-to-reel tape which is technology predominately used in 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s, back older generations. The Beatles would have killed for GB. I can tell you are a young kid who was born into the DAW error and has no clue of what older technology had to do. GB is a very powerful and professional DAW.
@@tgrimes175 still, logic is way more powerful. But I do agree, GB is extremely powerful and is more than enough for demoing
Can you elaborate on “look at your recording process” please?
1:59 Cursor Options (GB: Pointer & Pencil; LPX: 14 tools with advanced editing option)
6:45 Mixing Console (GB: NA; LPX: A)
7:39 Copying Plug-ins (GB: NA; LPX: Copy Channel Strip Setting)
8:46 Inspector Window (GB: NA; LPX: A)
9:33 Take Folder (GB: NA; LPX: A)
11:37 Selecting Multiple Tracks (GB: NA; LPX: A)
12:00 Pitch Correction (GB: Limited; LPX: Flex Pitch)
16:02 Grouping Things (GB: NA; LPX: A)
16:46 Automation Options (GB: A; LPX: Latch & Write Options and flexibility with MIDI controller with EQ)
18:06 Project Alternatives (GB: NA; LPX: A)
19:01 Exporting Stems (GB: NA; LPX: A)
(GB: GarageBand; LPX: Logic Pro X; NA: Not available; A: Available)
I'm on Logic Pro Trial (90days!) during the quarantine and that's the kind of video that is really helpful to make some choice. Using Garage Band for almost a year now, I really want to improve my mixing skill. You got new sub!
I'm checking it out during the quarantine too. Been a garage band user for many years. Not sure I'll be able to switch back, but there's soooo much to learn, I might have to get rid of my real job.
I'm in the same decision-making phase.. This video was extremely helpful.
do it, I use logic now full time. I tried going back to GarageBand even for a day and I couldn't make it. Logic only gets better the more you use it
You can record multiple takes on the same track and comp them in GB. It's simply a matter of changing a setting it in the preferences, then selecting the takes or parts of takes in the same track. I do it all the time.
One massive thing is that you can change tempo and time signature with logic within one song. I notice nobody ever mentions this and yet it is a huge fundamental difference.
You can change the tempo in garageband mid track, just open the tempo track from the top menu and automate the tempo, changing it where needed. As for time signature, I don’t think you can change it mid song, as you said
@@joshuastocks4760 but In garage band when you change the tempo you can’t lock the tracks. So in garage band if the bpm is at 90 and you switch it to 120 the song will speed up while in Logic you can lock the song so it doesn’t speed up but the bpm changes
@@asylumrain you can automate it for specific areas of songs. very easily actually and no, it doesnt change the entire song.
You can change it mid song, you have to create a new section and that will allow you to change the time signature. Create section B mid way through and you can change the entire track
I've been debating on getting Logic for months now. During my songwriting sessions, I've definitely come across all of the Garageband flaws you've mentioned. This is the video I needed to confirm my Logic purchase!
Glad to hear this!! Logic is really such a big step up, and for anyone wanting to take things up a level, getting a Pro DAW is a great way to start
Agreed. I’m sold, too. After finishing this comment, I’m gonna go upstairs to my home studio and buy Logic Pro X.
Started recording in the box in 2007. Began with GB, which got me initiated into digital tracking, mixing, and working with loops. I think if you are serious about writing, tracking and mixing your music, graduating from GB to Logic is the natural progression
Definitely sold Logic for me. I've been getting frustrated with garageband because it's so clunky and it doesn't do what I want it to do/doesn't sound the way I want things to sound, so as a result, found myself recording less because it started to get annoying and tedious, rather than fun. I will bite the bullet and make the jump immediately. Thank you!!
GarageBand keeps speeding up my tracks
Really informative, thanks. But... I send stems with GarageBand ... solo track, share, mail, wave, iCloud mail drop.
Hey Nathan I enjoy learning from you thank you. However i can tell you’ve never really used GarageBand much. If you want to adjust different things in the compression u just click on the plugin where u can change the ratio or threshold and so on. U can also have multiple takes on a region. Just keep recording over each take and they r automatically saved. a little number pops up in the region if u click on it u can choose one of the takes or even blend them. I do agree it appears easier to use the cut tool in LP but cutting and moving region in GB is pretty easy also. Having said all that it seems logic is way better than GB. And I am researching it to buy it. Your audio skills r fantastic and I will continue watching your videos.
The important thing to remember is that GarageBand is cross platform between iPhone/iPad iOS and Mac OS. iOS doesn't support all the tricks that MAC OS does for DAW. GarageBand's beauty is it's simplicity and quickness of use. You can create projects from your iPhone/iPad in the field or desktop MAC ay home .. and import it into Logic Pro if you want to go all out on a production.. I think it's great having the two seperate DAW's so you can produce on mobile and fixed setups... Personally I use GarageBand iOS, Cubasis iOS, Cubase Pro, Logic Pro. Cubase has Chord Track which is brilliant especially for songwriters and arrangers, also Cubase has harmony generators for adding vocal harmonies.. Also Cubase Pro you can control pitch correction to a Midi Keyboard so you can play a melody on the keyboard and the vocals will be pitched to whatever you play... So each DAW has benefits.
On garage bands there r ways to save multiple takes actually it’s just less intuitive
10:25 In Garageband iOS they do have a record multiple takes option which basically creates a folder of takes numbering them 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.. very similar to Logic Pro X. You can keep parts from whichever takes you want, and delete (or save and keep hidden) the takes you don't want. I guess they don't have this option in the Mac Garageband version, or he just doesn't know about it. Either way, Logic Pro X is still way better for this, but I just wanted to mention there is a multiple take option in the iOS version.
Hey yeah someone else mentioned something similar and that's correct - that was my mistake in the video. Thanks for the correction
@@NathanJamesLarsen Yeah, on GB I just turn the "loop" on while I record (region or whole song, doesn't matter), but editing those takes gets a bit wonky. I use to do it in ProTools and GB isn't as smooth as that but it works. Just got Logic which clearly does more with multiple takes. Other than that great video. Thanks!
Thanks Nathan - Been doing demos in GB for maybe 10 months or so and have started running into several limitations. This is super helpful in making the decision to upgrade to Logic, which I will be doing shortly! Thanks!
Thanks Nathan !!! Get better soon !!
Been using garage band for a couple of years currently debating getting logic. I agree being able to cut and move audio being super helpful. I am not much of a musician at the moment and was trying to record some guitar yesterday after mostly using midi tracks to make hip hop instrumentals and for the life of me I could not get it exactly in time so that will come in handy. Great video I'm gonna go ahead and pull the trigger on getting it!
You'll love it!
Been hoping you’d do this video. Thanks!! 🙏 -Em
Yay!
Sorry, Nathan
It seems I keep correcting errors, but I do really like your videos and am subscribing.
But you can do multiple takes i GB, but only when you're cycling. You have to turn it on in settings though and you can't comp from different takes.
One of the greatest things with Logic is that you can open your old GB projects, which means you can record in GB (perhaps on iOS) and edit and mix it in Logic Pro X.
Humbly, Ylan
I have no problem being corrected - thanks man!
I was going to mention that I recently discover (by mistake) how to do the multiple takes folder by using the cycle option. Anyways, I liked more the option he showed from Logic. 👍🏽
Thanks..very helpful in making the decision. Definitely leaning to LP
I bought the education pack while I was still in college and the biggest difference I noticed was certain things in iMovie and GarageBand that would require watching a RUclips tutorial to learn a 10-step process are just a single button click in Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro. The amount of time saved every time I want to work on a project was enough to justify the price tag (especially with the education discount, which still gives you a commercial license)
I just purchased logic, this is a great video. Logic is pretty simple to use if you want to learn anything about studio equipment garage band is a great start. You are limited to what you can actually do on GarageBand..
Awesome! Have fun with it!
Ya I’m to broke for logic lol but I’ve been pretty successful, the plugins are just enough to make it sound official 👌🏼
yes but i don't want to have to click a button or press a key to change tools!
you don't have to do that in garageband, it changes when you go into midi zone.
Those take folders it creates is awesome. That's the best part of Logic from what ive seen.
Really good video. Showed me quickly what I wanted to know
I use garageband to edit all the time and in fact I think there are easy ways to do many of the things you say can't be done in it, but I'll have to go back and check again - but I do know I do a lot of very complicated edits with both imported audio and midi tracks and vocals all combined. The thing that's most problematic is getting a consistent output when you export from GB - it can often sound great in the GB app but then sound really bad over large speakers!
Because GB is so limiting I find it more difficult to use coming from using Logic in the past. You can still make a masterpiece on GB but Logic sure does make the process so much easier. GB has come a long ways compared to the older version it's night and day.
I started on GB and loved it as a starter. It's definitely usable but there's no question that making professional quality in GB is much more challenging for the reasons I give.
@@NathanJamesLarsen it's definitely challenging. I've managed to find workarounds being I have other plugins. Really what's a killer you can't set up bus channels since there's no mixer. I plan to upgrade to Logic once I know the world isn't coming to an end, lol.
@@ryanatx Yep - personally, my biggest frustration is editing capabilities. All the others are really important, but jeez, not being able to edit makes me so upset in GB
@@NathanJamesLarsen that's when my MPC software comes in handy, lol
Nathan Larsen Music what are saying ? You can edit on GB!! Lol
I’ve actually recently been able to use GarageBand on a MacBook. My goal is to master it and exhaust every option I have until I “need” logic. I don’t wanna jump into something I’m not familiar with at all. Working on my EP in GarageBand. I’m happy so far. But I do want logic at some point.
For sure - didn't mean this video to be "everyone MUST get Logic"
@@NathanJamesLarsen trust me, I've got my eye on logic! but so far GB does what I need it to do. and I think its a great place to start.
Homestly the new GarageBand on the M1 macbookpros is better than most Daws i’ve ever used
Can't see the "Pre-Fader Volume" button in GB... absence of this function makes GB an amateur app
I love how he’s like “I’m gonna show you guys an example... but I’m not gonna screw up my mix to do it” 😂
😂😂😂😂
May I ask what OS you’re using? I have El Capitan, and I’m unsure if I can still get logic on there
It seems that the main reason a professional DAW gets this entitlement in comparison to “amateur” or smth like this - is whether it has option for ROUTING signal. You’ve said about it in the video among other workflow/UI differences, but I suppose it should have been pointed out to be the breaking point. ‘cause when the routing is available - real engineering and mind-blowing production starts. And this means that besides creating some handful FX-bus-sends there is a possibility to sidechain stuff - and this is a kind of whole new level of musical landscape to explore that opens up - we mostly know and recognise the sidechaining in this ducking-instruments-to-kick-drum effect, but it is never limited to this specific technique, you may create any combo of this kind on any pair of instruments to create this sonically beautiful relation between them. and this is never limited to a kick drum and even not to a compressor - many of the EQs, filters, saturators, third-party and built-in - have the ability to be fed with a sidechained signal through a specific input channel for that purposes.
but even if we stick to the basic “sidechain-to-kick-using-compressor” concept - you may still do that with a separate set of compressor’s parameters on a lead vocal track and on its reverb - e.g. one’s attack/release time is 1/2 of another’s and vise versa, even though they both are ducking to a kick. This creates the specific feeling and level of detail that makes us think that some magic is going on in the mix. Often these types of techniques create something that is impossible to describe, but only to feel. “better to listen to it once, rather that trying to explain in a thousand different words” kind of thing.
so just to help those who’s still thinking whether to make a shift to a pro DAW (including Logic in this case but not limited to it) - hope that helps to understand what benefits are included to this move and what architectural possibilities you gain by making it, which Garageband lacks to really be counted for a professional tool. And this what really makes it worth the amount of money spent on purchasing.
‘cause all the UI/workflow limitations of GB can be walked around with some additional repetitive actions such as dragging the faders separately or duplicating the tracks - yes, kind of silly, dumb, outdated but who cares if it works and sounds identical on the exported WAV file to the one you’ll have exported from Logic using all these handy tweaks along the way.
But signal routing - is something that GB can’t technically afford in its core and nothing can buy it in this case - either any amount of additional time you spend on repetitive tasks or any 3-rd party solution that is out there to purchase - and this what actually effects the output result in terms of production quality of a song and logically the ability and potential of a song to amaze and capture attention.
P.S. u may even get insane-as-fuck and create 2-3-4-levels-deep sidechaining relations between tracks, and nothing limits or prevents you from exploring these wastelands of musical landscape if u feel it like the way to take your track to, that’s the freedom of artistic expression this type of software can offer. Well, maybe actually CPU performance cap will stop this journey at some point I guess lol, but not the software.
I find the whole Send and bus thing super intimidating I don’t understand it! Do the amps sound better? Do the vocals sound better?
You use busses to actually make the process easier and better in your computer. So rather than putting tons of effects on each channel - you send the ones you want to ONE place where it is given the effect at the level you want. So say you have 10 vocal tracks and you want them to have the same reverb - you'd send them all to an effects bus where you'd have the reverb and now you only have one reverb instead of a bunch. I can make a video on it
I’ve had the demo for a little while one other thing that keeps me from using Logic is I do multiple takes of say the first guitar part but I like to be able to delete all the takes every time after I play it and do not like it until I get the one I want I did that on logic and it kept every one no matter how much I deleted they were still there I like to get rid of a bad take forever instantly that’s why I make two guitar tracks one one on left side and one on right I play along with them each until I get the ones Iike!
And when I tried to record another guitar track you hear the one I thought I deleted in the background and it sounded out of time this is why I haven’t went back! If you could do a video about these things for a guy who just wants to Do a cover of say Judas Priest point of Entry! When it’s done I’ll only have at the most 10 tracks I don’t want each track to have a memory of all 30 attempts at the lead guitar part etc. thanks for all you do for Dingbats like me.
I play metal guitar & have purchased plugins on GB. Can these plugins be transferred to L.P.X?? Also, are there preset guitar amps in logic?
Yep any third party plugins will transfer over and Logic has amps and pedals
dude the flex pitch alone sold me
Also in 90 day trial land. When I saw vocal comping I literally gasped and my jaw dropped. I’ve been cutting up my takes dealing with pops and clips and accidentally shifting sections with a clumsy mouse. Did my last project with 5 takes and was done comping in minutes.
Really depends on what are you going to do and how are you going or want to use the DAW.
I guess what I want to know is what’s the difference in the final product. I get that logic has heaps of tools and short cuts that make things quicker and more efficient. But it also seems like they make it generally more complicated for someone who gets bamboozled by being overwhelmed with information (me). The question is, is it possible (regardless of whether it takes longer) to make a track in GarageBand that will SOUND as good as the same track done in Logic Pro, or isn’t it?
I haven't made the video yet but I did a comparison producing the same track and while the GB version is still good - it isn't even close to the quality of the version made in Logic. Honestly though if you don't understand how all those tools work and how the plugins work then it's gonna be very hard to make professional sounding tracks regardless of what DAW you use.
Nathan Larsen Music not true .
Yes it is possible to make professional sounding tracks on GB! Many famous musicians use it! Try GB ! The workflow has been mind blowing for me and how intuitive is!! I felt extremely overwhelmed with Logic Pro because it has so many tools I never used! I am sure a súper profesional will live Logic more but give GB a chance ! I will not buy Logic Pro X for now and that’s for sure !!
This was helpful, tks. I have an old macbook, stuck in High Sierra - so I was wondering if I should make an upgrade to get Logic (can’t buy logic previous version) and/or use other daws like Reaper or Studio One.
My main objective is to record my bass with my bandmates tracks, based on this video, guess GB is still good enough for me: other daws are too cumbersome to use...
Take it from me. I was using Logic Pro for so many years and there was something that wasn’t clicking for me. I realized that what was affecting me was the workflow, and I realized that after giving Garage band a real chance !! Now I don’t go back and I won’t buy Logic Pro x!! It’s mind blowing how intuitive and continuous GB is! My point is, give GB a real chance ! Logic has so many features that I never used !
i have the same problem i have an old imac with osx el captain 10.4 and want to run an older version of logic..
@@TheShyArmyTV it's very easy to compose and record music in GB and thats the way it should be! when i try other DAW like reason, fruity loops, ableton etc i'm just thinking.. all this features?? i don't need them! can load almost any plug-ins you want in GB which is practically gonna give you added features in the same way like you're running a more advanced DAW..
IMO the less technical features and options the better, i can concentrate on making music.
very helpful, nice to see some of the benefits explained....cheers.
This is by far the best Logic vs GB comparisons that I've seen. Apple owes you one, because they do a TERRIBLE job of selling Logic and explaining the benefits. Kudos.
Hi Nathan. Great video. I've been using GB for a few years now, about to 'graduate' to Logic. (Slightly terrified, lol) Just watched your bit about cutting/editing the vocal line at 6:12. Just wanted to say I'm able to cut and move my vocals very easily in GB. I place the playhead where in the music I want to cut, click on it, hover the cursor below the vocal line till it changes to a cross. I then drag and highlight what I want to delete, cut and adjust the track as you did in Logic. Maybe someone's already said all this. Hey, anyway, I won't need it once I'm on Logic!! lol
Hey Nathan. Good video and I just directed one of my subscribers over to it today who was asking if they should use Logic or GarageBand for recording their Nord Keyboard. Good stuff and thanks!
Thanks! That's awesome. Looove hearing that.
Round 8:00 IT is possible you can choose for make new track with duplicated settings i'm dutch so sorry for my English
This video was very helpful! Also I’m using audacity and there’s a delay from my recording to my headphones(I’ll hear part of the last word I spoke as I’m recording the next verse) is there a way to get rid of that delay and does logic have the same issue? I’m considering getting logic but I have a feeling I’ll have a similar issue
Nathan, THANK YOU Man. HUGE.
I’ve been using logic for over 5 years and I was like fuck it why not watch this and I actually learned more from this than like random “things you didn’t know about logic” videos. Like just seeing your workflow and stuff. Really great video. (Only critique is the computer audio was in mono and seemed a bit messed up from the screen recording.)
Thanks a bunch - yeah for the audio, for some reason my audio was not recorded from my computer source so it was coming from my microphone - that is not how I do it, but I forgot to change my outputs for recording this video - sorry about that!
Fantastic vid! Thanks for the detailed explanation. Time to purchase Logic!
Go get it!!!
Not to challenge you main argument,but if you set record audio to loop in Garageband, you can record numerous passes (takes), and then cut and paste to put together a composite take. It requires duplicating the track and then dragging the individual takes to separate tracks and then editing, but it can be done.
Thanks for this - I should have talked about that and just compared it that way.
I'm sure we've got some people who are die hard GarageBanders here but whatcha'll think? Worth the investment? I think so!
Nathan Larsen Music As i am a student with limited budget, I am using GarageBand at the moment, but i can see its limitations and after your video i am sure i will make the transition to Logic. Thank you for the tips, it is really helpfull for those who can’t afford it at the beggining of their music production career. I have seen countless vids about this comparasion, but this is the best. You make great content :)
@@Ligger4 Hey! I started on GarageBand and used it for probably two years before moving to Logic Pro (back when it was, I think version 8 or 9). It's a GREAT starter DAW, and when you decide to go over to Logic, it'll be very easy to transition, since it's quite similar.
Logic is just the adult version on steriods of GarageBand.
likeasemi it’s well worth the money good luck to you.
Nathan Larsen Music Obviously Logic has more advanced features than GB and you’ve done a great job pointing these things out. Your deep knowledge is obvious. Clearly you value these features and they make your workflow more efficient. The lack of a mixer view on GB is a big miss for me. However, whether someone can create professional quality results with GB or any other DAW is as much (maybe more) about talent as it is about technology? Some amazing records have been made without all of the precision, processing and editing capability of Logic or Pro Tools and with very meagre track counts in comparison to today? Engineers and musicians are inevitably going to look at things from different perspectives, but for me the guts of great music is mostly writing, arrangement and the performance of great musicians rather than the technology deployed.
@@donharrold1375 Thanks for the comment - I definitely agree that songwriting, arrangement, and performance are more important than the DAW itself or technology. I've been producing the same song in GB and Logic to compare, and some of these differences make a big difference. Not being able to edit is huge and does make a difference in the final product. Same with the vocal editing capabilities. At the end of the day, what I'll wind up with in GB is still gonna be good, but it's better in Logic.
Is it best to delete GB if I am getting Logic Pro X?
really helpful thank you
Does Garageband sounds realistic? I'm using Garageband on IOS and it is so frustrating. My musics sound not realistic like any other musics. I'm just wondering; when i update my DAW to Garageband or Logic Pro X, are my musics gonna sound realistic? Or is it just me being a nerd at making music?
my question is dumb but if i buy logic do i lose garageband?or i can have them both?Im asking because it will take me time to learn how to use logic and at the same time i alreaddy know how to use garageband.😅
Yup you keep it - in fact you can merge sessions from Garageband into Logic
@@NathanJamesLarsen Thank you very much.Amazing video btw and it deserved a like and a subscibe since im gonna use logic soon.
Nathan - thank you. Looking at all of the comments and watching this video - I am just beginning this journey of learning to record music. Would you agree that before I put $$$ into Logic-Pro, I should cut my teeth on Garage Band and get so I can be proficient at a free app and then purchase Logic? There are so many different applications out there for DAW’s - it is to me like going into a candy store and trying to pick one candy…. OR should I get logic and just learn on that?
Good information!
😎🙏 thanks a bunch!
Hi Bro, thanks for the great videos! can you make a tutorial video about mixing vocal crispy / brightly (EQ, Comp, etc) in Logic Pro X. Can't wait to see!
I'll put it on my list of videos to make! Got a new one diving into advanced Logic Pro features soon.
I believe that GarageBand (which is free), is intended to be a simplified subset of Logic ($200) functionality. I own and have used both. My current preference is GB because I am still learning the recording process and Logic can be a bit overwhelming. I intend to grow into Logic in time. I also enjoy GB and Music Memos on my iPad to easily capture new ideas.
I think they both have a place in the market. Obviously you can take advantage of all the power of Logic!
I appreciate your points in this well produced video! Thanks for sharing…
@ 17:57 if Logic Pro allowed you to draw automation with vector-style bezier curves it’d be game over
I’ve been sleeping on Logic and it’s only $200 with a 90 day free trial. Amazing. Thx for creating the video!
Nathan, you are absolutely correct that Logic is a far more powerful tool. The reason I love GB, however, is that I can spend my time creating music rather than trying to make sense of an owners' manual. I'd rather pay a professional audio engineer to tweak and mix my mostly-finished GB files after they are opened in Logic. He will achieve a better final result than I could ever manage, especially with his studio resources.
I've used Digital Performer for years, and it just took me two days to remap my MIDI devices after a recent update. And it's not that I can't learn; I have an Ivy League education! I guess the point is that DP and Logic are incredible programs, but only for people with the time and aptitude to master them.
really thank you . you showed me what I want 🤝
Hi, I'm just wondering if you're familiar with LMMS at all as I have a question about a feature there that I am wondering if Logic Pro X has cos I can't seem to find it in GB (unless I am looking incorrectly). My question is this. In LMMS, you can place .wav file samples on a keyboard roll and change the pitch of the .wav file, thus giving you the ability to create melodies from these samples. Is this a feature in Logic Pro X (or GarageBand?) Tysm if you (or anyone) has a reply to this as I've asked elsewhere and gotten no reply.
I don’t know if you’ve figured it out by now, but this video was really helpful for me!
ruclips.net/video/SM8moBfwNdY/видео.html
THANK YOU!!!!! WHAT ABOUT STUDIO ONE VS LOGIC?????
I've never used Studio One - and once you get into Pro DAWs it really doesn't matter. Just pick one and go.
Can Logic Pro create a basic chord progression for an acapella vocal melody? I don’t think GarageBand can.
No - I don't know of any daw that does that. My recommendation is to learn basic theory
Thanks for the great video! I have both Melodyne and Logic Pro on trial, just started to learn Melodyne (essential), and faced one peculiar issue with it. Would you say the Logic Pro pitch correction is enough for your case and you don't need Melodyne?
I don't use Melodyne and I have friends who have used it and prefer Flex still. It's much easier and gets the job done
this is actually interesting, I always suspected garageband was basically the same as logic if you hadn't enabled the advanced editing settings but it seems a lot more restricted than that. None of these things alone are that big except not having buses and the simplified plug ins but all together add up to a big difference. Didn't even know about the flex pitch or alternative project version and have been using logic for years.
I just have one question I’m thinking about going to Logic Pro X but I am currently using Garage band which one is better for learning how to mix and master a track?
Definitely Logic no question.
Nathan Larsen thank you so much this helped me a lot 👌🏽
Really cool sum up, right on, thanks!
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
Would u recommend logic for beginners
If you are willing to spend some money and want to take it seriously then yes
Great stuff thanks
For sure! 🙏🙏
your only problem with it is "you have to click on it"
Thanks✨
This is the video I have been looking for! Thank you!!
Thanks ! For the info... I’m glad I got Logic Pro !!
In just a few minutes of watching this vid I am going to move to Logic Pro X. I would like to find out how to explore more with you at the helm? My problem is I can play and sing. Don't want to expand my energies into learning how to become an engineer. Not lazy just into economy of motion. Have played professionally for decades. Moved from L.A. to the San Juan islands and now doing solo bits. So now I am recording and wondering the path I should take? I go by punkin but if that unnerves you Michael works too.
Hey - a lot of people self produce but hire out the mixing side. Depends a bit on what genre you're in with how much you'd need to really learn. Get the basics down - like recording technique (not hard) and arrangement and then hire out the rest. Again - depends on your goals and such too. I have videos that have more in depth tutorials on Logic too
I am a GB user,my bad. Of course Logic has tons of functions that GB does not have. If I would mix songs professionally for other artist I'd definitely switch to Logic. But as a songwriter which eventually do mix it's own stuffs,producing in GB is sooo smooth and the sounds are not bad at all. It just takes a bit more of patience and definitely good performances to work. Cross fading,that I really miss
U can take multiple takes on garageband. Ive done it
Honestly this is convincing me I really might not need logic after all. 😂 Very well done video, but I don’t see how any of these features are actually *essential.*
I never use flextime, for one, GarageBand *does* provide take-comps, using cmd+t isn’t all that inconvenient, and crossfading is possible with track volume automation…a few things I do agree with:
1) the Autotune in gb is terrible (even more so are pitch changes with vocal transformer 😬)
2) grouping clips is nice
3) being able to side-chain would be…awesome
The biggest reason to buy though, for me, is just to be able to open logic files from my buddy who I’m co-writing some tunes with these days. 😌
The landing page for your website requires a password....?
Hey! I'm updating it right now! It'll be up soon!
Nathan Larsen Music - Sweet! I’ll keep an eye out!
what camera do you use?
Canon T6i
thanks
studio one is a good step up from garageband
Thanks for this!!!
Just the fact that it has something very similar to 'Melodyne' built in, is one (of many) reasons, I'll likely switch to Logic now!
I really want to purchase Logic, all these things you mentioned about GarageBand I have experienced them myself and they are indeed quite limiting! But I love the simplicity of GarageBand vs Ableton. I just hate ableton especially as a singer with lots of stacked vocals!
Logic is a natural upgrade from GB. I started with GB like 14 years ago and after a year upgraded to Logic and the interface is so similar that it was very easy to get used to.
Excellent video - I can see a purchase in my future! Questions: In Logic, is there a way to store an EQ setting? For example, I have a standard EQ for my singer which is used on all her tracks - Can I just create that once, and use it on multiple tracks? Also - is there a slapback delay echo available?
Yeah in Logic you can create preset channel strips so you can just use them multiple times - and yes there are several options for delay - I think Logic has like 4 different delays.
And slap back can also be done with reverb
I just use GarageBand to sketch out songs to bring to the studio and let the band listen to the songs. Think The Beatles Anthology albums where you can hear raw examples of songs.
You’ve got me subscribed Sir
🙏🙏 you da man
Nathan, you are really Great at what you do! Love that you actually show visually what you are explaining! Glad i fond you! David.
Thanks a bunch!! 😎🙏
I bought Logic Pro X, but honestly i'm not advanced enough to do anything with it that Garageband cant. Maybe in the future. This is a really good comparison though.
Its the future now and i've learned how to do a lot of things in Logic that aren't in Garageband.
Man, a lot of these really are non-issues.
Like the alternatives things, you can just... make a separate file?
Might be non issues if you aren't doing this professionally or are just doing it for fun - and I don't mean that at all in a patronizing way.
there's a way to do automation on garage band lol
Just press A. Some people just talk cause they have a mouth. And his music sucks BTW. Peace!
Yes, you can automate volume, but not equalization.
He is saying that you don’t have the curve tool and things like that, not that there is no automation at all. Also just because his music is bad does’t mean his opinion doesn’t matter.
i’ve been using logic pro for a long time, but i don’t even know logic pro could be this super😯
Haha that's great.
Got into production recently.. watched a lot of these reviews on buying logic over GB before buying logic and have to say looking back.. I’ve learned and done so much more on Logic Pro x.. not that garage band isn’t capable cause it 100 is % but Logic Pro is top notch DAW after recent update and out of the stuff I bought for a home studio I think Logic Pro X was my Best Buy
The reasons it’s better is cause it’s more interactive with the sound and there is always something new to learn.. also Logic Pro x makes for less work making it easy and convenient to use.,. Thanks for all vids Nate! Came along ways since March when I first started watching videos .. I will admit learning a new DAW isn’t easy and I still have lot to learn but the efficiency compared to GB is 10 x better and easily worth the 300$ price tag
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing that. Logic is so powerful. I love it. And yeah GB can work but taking things to the next level is tough to do with it. So happy you've been hanging around with me!! 🙏🙏😎😎
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☠️BLACK BARON☠️ GB is simpler, it brings music making to the down bottom without too many nobs and switches to play around. That's my opinion. Took me a week to update from 10.2 to 10.3.4 to get the music software workflow up and running again. However, the time investment was worth it. The mastering and export function is much better in sound quality compared to 10.2. Version 10.3.4 is another sound level. Top notch music mastering quality 👍
Of course is more simple - it's not meant to be hard to use. It's a great intro to production but the things I've laid out in this video are important for those wanting to go past an "intro" and want to dive deeper
such a helpfull video
Thanks!!
You make some erroneous statements about GB in this video. You can do multiple takes and comp on the same track. You can automate not only volume and panning controls, but all kinds of parameters in GB plugins. Of course, Logic has more features, but GB is free and it's very powerful. Lots of songwriters like its ease of use and don't want or need all of Logic's bells and whistles. Further, good engineers can record, mix and master using any software, incuding GB. GB may not be your thing, and that's fine. But to say that people can't produce professional quality songs using GB is just nonsense.
Exactly!! A great producer will make a great sounding song in any DAW!
I am 62 We cut records on eight track half-inch Tape 16 track two inch 24 adat. Roland aki machines digital .I hit song is a hit song no matter what you record that on . Get you a nice audio in a phase with a great clock nice Mike pres Play it all the way down do you get it right all that editing don’t know But I know all the great records were done the way I just said that’s why there’s not really good music Lack of musicianship
Thanks Nathan...i recently strated making my own music tracks..basically a vocalist. Also recently switched to Logic from GB, and ur video is very helpful. Also looking for collabs on you tube..plz reply if anyone’s interested.
Happy to hear this helped you. I have several tutorials on Logic Pro X too if you need help! Best of luck and welcome to the club!
Interesting video - thanks. I’m kinda surprised that it was needed as GarageBand is free (and by all accounts, pretty damn awesome despite that) and Logic a professional tool. Like iMovie to Final Cut.
Still tempted by Logic as GarageBand does not recognise the MIDI commands sent by the sliders and knobs on my keyboard
GB is a minimalist’s tool.
Logic isn’t that expensive though
10:23 Shut up and take my money!
It's interesting there is this vid that shows the diff between a DAW that comes stock on Mac et al vs. a vastly more expensive and pro level DAW...Um Ya..Like a video showing how a heavy weight boxer is a superior athlete vs. a 7 year old child...what was the vision and point of this vid? GB is a great enabler of everyday bedroom producers.. Then you go to Logic which is the same but with next level capabilities. GB is a gateway drug into Apple/Mac recording environment..The more music in the world, the better.... bad or good. The ones that continue...go to logic.
The point is to show those who are using GB and are considering Logic but not sure what the differences are. I've heard the question enough times which is why I focus on things Logic can do that GB cannot to explain some of the key differences .I never said don't use GB or that GB is bad. I started with GB and loved it - as you said it's the gateway to the bigger stuff and it was for me.