5:20 that is pennywort which can be quite invasive and difficult to keep under control if it starts to grow on the ground. It is however a very very effective natural filter, so keeping a floating island with it, can be very beneficial for the water quality due to it taking up a lot of nutrients from the water.
A good idea maybe for purely landscape ponds. That algae is terrible stuff. We tend to not use chemicals because we eat the fish. There is an super easy to make drag tool that is fantastic at cleaning up a pond, etc.. It cost about $30 (plus cost of rope) to make and lasts for decades. But one does have to have a way to pull the drag across the pond. We use an electric winch but some use a tractor, pickup, etc.. To see this tool, look for: "Homemade Weed Removal Tool for Pond." I enjoyed your video, thanks.
could you email me a more natural way with out using chemicals to remove debri. We eat the fish out of our pond as well. Its 13 acres total. I am trying to figure out away to remove everything in the fingers of our pond
@@jefflee1472 A wetland area could help with the algae, it would have to be huge to fully clear but even a smaller one can help keeping algae growth down. With a pond this size, all the rules of thumb goes out of the window, but if you could turn the water through a 9 wide, 3 long, 1 deep meter wetland ones a week, it can remove a huge amount of the nutrients, and keep the water healthy and that way keep algae growth down.
@@RonniRasmussen I have a stagnant pond. Would it be best to build the wetland area where the water flows into the pond or on the side where the water flows out of the pond? My plan would be to use a windmill pump to circulate the water back up hill.
What do you use? We have a pond/ small lake stocked with fish and some turtles, it’s getting a bit dark and not as pristine as before. What do you recommend to protect the fish and turtles?
This is a very ancient technique. You use bright entrance ways to allow transition from outside to inside through main entrance ways. Once inside the space you use long warm pallets of wood and stone to allow the mind to leave the outside world, like you do when you sleep. The water feature needs help though. Too much algae has taken all the benefits it would normally give if you could see it. This comes from overgrown trees and no bushes on the opposite side along the forest line. You can remedy this by planting Duck Potato, American Pondweed and Pickerel Weed. You can also get fresh water mollusks that will clean the actual water in no time flat. But I suggest using a combination of the two. Seeing water for 20min a day is a natural stress reliever. But as a fine finish carpenter I’ve spent enough time around the right people to learn things that I’m happy to share. Hope this helps? You do wonderful work and appreciate you showcasing this on an otherwise testy platform. Cheers
There is small public land lake in MS I fished bream and crappie for several years. It was a good lake. Those thick small type lily pad vegetation eventually took over the entire lake. You have a nice place. Good Video
Geese will control the algae and other vegetation and you won't have to spray anything. We bought acres and the pond was totally choked with cat-tails, algae and other water weeds and the geese totally cleared it within a couple of months, from then on the pond was clear and clean and looked magic.
Hey man not trying to tell you what to do but you can hand spread the granular stuff like you used. If your gonna spray it try a chelated version ( ex caption Xtr , argos )
I know this is a year ago but your video just came up in my recommendations. If your pond doesn't have a discharge outlet and it's landlocked I'd try lake dye. I dye my pond and I have no vegetation growing in our pond. Our pond is 25 years old now and the only thing living is the Lilly pads and the irises and of course the fish.
my pond is full of algea because the water is not deep enough and has full sun, would it help to use dye? Which color did you use? And can you still see the fish swimming after you used the dye?
We just moved into a house and our drinking water is the pond in the backyard. We have a filtration system in the basement. Can we use this? We are definitely in the dark on what to do to treat the pond! There is a bunch of algae growing. I tried scrapping all the algae off the top I did one pass and a few hours later you could barely tell I didn’t anything! Thanks for your help
@skylarJohnsano If you are drinking the water, you may not want to put anything into the water. I would consult a professional for that purpose. Your health is far more valuable than a pretty pond. Good Luck to you.
You need to drill a well, build a rain gutter - systern system, get water piped in, or haul water to your house. Surface water is pretty nasty without extensive testing and treatment, and I'd only trust a municipal or commercial outfit qualified to treat it like they do with reservoir water. Even rainwater is easier to clean than pond water. Use the pond for recreation and fire extinguishing.
I have used copper-sulfate every year and I have tons of fish. It has never harmed them. It is not recommended for water gardens. I use it in several acres of water. It is significantly diluted once it hits the pond water.
@freed991 I took information from Texas A&M. You can follow the link provided. Copper Sulfate is particularly harmful to trout and koi fish. It is best not to use this in decorative water gardens. I have not seen any fish die as a result of using this in my pond and my pond is FULL of fish.
It's a fish killer for sure very toxic kills other things too frogs, turtles If you want a hole with water in it and no beneficial aquatic life at all copper sulfate is your product!
🚨 Wait! Wait wait. 🚨 I _just_ looked it up and the first thing on Google was that it is super toxic for fish. An Amazon reviewer for it showed pictures of their dead fish as a result. Beware!
@@midsouthoutdoors7321 What brand is your copper sulfate? I purchased a 50lb feed grade bag (Old Bridge) and while looking to see how much to mix, I noticed that it says it is toxic for fish.
@David Carraway Crystal Blue. You'll need to research it. It can be harmful to specific fish. I wouldn't use it in a koi pond. It has never harmed my fish. This is sold for pond algae control.
I am not totally sure. The company claims it dissipates out of the water column in 24 hours. That's why you can't store it after it has been mixed with water. This is the only herbicide I found that kills watermeal. That stuff covered my pond completely the first year I was here.
The information I reviewed showed it was not harmful to humans or pets. It showed to be harmful to trout and koi fish. I assume it could be harmful to other fish in heavy concentrations. Treating surface algae like this puts very little in the water column as a percentage
What I use is a salt crystal that dissolves in the water. Whether it is correct or not, I put more of the copper sulfate salt into the sprayer than can be dissolved. The excess will simply sit at the bottom of my sprayer until I add more water next time. You will be spraying into water anyway which will further dilute it. This has always worked for me. The container will give mixing instructions if you'd prefer to be exact.
Each product outlines this on the bottle. Some of them say they are safe for human and animals immediately after use. Some say to give it a day or 2. I have never seen any adverse reactions to the fish. Everything I use is specifically designed for use in ponds. Some of them would not be recommended for small decorative ponds with Koi fish.
Yeah, the recommended amount to use is supposed to be ignored. No measurements are needed. No telling what else you are killing by maybe using too much. Just dump it in til you think you got enough...
@@SunAndMirror I didnt say ANYTHING about it not killing... I was actually talking about not using the correct AMOUNTS recommended by the manufacture! But I guess that you are supporting this kind of chemical use. People like you are part of the problem that we have today.
I am not sure. If you are referring to string algae, it is possible. That is not the same algae as I have. Texas A&M has some very good RUclips videos made by Biologist. This is where I sourced my information before treating.
I treat with this every year and have never seen and health related issues in my pond. Copper Sulfate to sold for this purpose. The literature show to be harmful to trout and koi. It can be harmful to other species in concentrated doses but you only treat the algae and not every inch of water. It get significantly diluted in a pond this size.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful or argumentative... But the information that you are putting out there is incorrect. copper sulfate is toxic to aquatic life....... period.... I'm sorry just because you say it's not doesn't mean it's true.
@@delawareteacher1182 Even if it's your pond on your land though? Like, if it's a small controlled area that isn't connected to anything I'd think it'd be fine. I get the reasoning behind it, but personally I'd be like "yeah I'm gonna get those carp anyway."
This only cost $500-ish to build. The solar ones I found at the time were much more expensive. That would be a great addition for later. It would let me run it on the deep side of the pond.
Does this work on a natural pond too? We have a human-height deep pond next to our house. The water looking dark black brown in color. I really dont know how to clean it 😢
Dark colored water sounds like muck and dissolved vegetation. It's hard to tell without looking at it. If it is just stained water, try a muck reducer. It is beneficial bacteria. It is healthy for the water. It makes the water clear and removes a lot of the muck from the bottom
Hi there. I.M.O. the last thing you want to do is spray a chemical/s into your pond thereby causing healthy vegetation (if you have any) to die and decompose in an already 'dank' and dying pond. A couple of things that can be done: the easiest and least expensive ( physical effort only) is to rake/drag the accessible pond areas of your pond, physically dragging the unwanted dead and dying rubbish to the side of your pond. Once the 'gunk' has gone, i.e. the dead abd dying plant debris, strategically add some potted water lilliesand other marginal plants (irises, papyrus and others) to give life in the form of a healthy natural, attractive balance to your pond. It won't happen over night, it will happen over the one season and the following year and for years after you will be enjoying a healthy good-looking pond, getting better and better each year,
If you want to go one step further, and it is an easy step...is to add grass carp or other similar fish to prevent over growth of unwanted plants such as algae, duckweed etc.
@@philipbacon3743 after observing, it looks like i have a swamp, instead of a pond. And previously. there was some big logs that my neighbor placed that fell into the swamp. So maybe yea, its possible the water turned dark because of the decomposing logs. My neighbor took the logs out of the swamp already, using an excavator. We are now left with some wood debris n trash in the dark water swamp. I appreciate your advice, i shall try cleaning the swamp from the leftover wood and trash. And shall look for some aquatic plants to introduce into it. Apparently the swamp already has some fishes and comodos! Cant see the type of fish though, cause its still murky water
RUclips search Texas A&M AgriLife Extension. This is the source I use to determine what to use in my pond. I use all sorts of pond products and have never seen a single fish death.
Why are you doing this. What are your motives? Im from Minnesota and noticed how crazy algee owns a lot of ponds. Help me if it matters. If it's just for looks I don't care
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Looks like paradise! You got a helluva set-up there. That's so cool that the house is basically right on the pond.
I agree 100%
Nice, do you know if that can harm the fish?
5:20 that is pennywort which can be quite invasive and difficult to keep under control if it starts to grow on the ground. It is however a very very effective natural filter, so keeping a floating island with it, can be very beneficial for the water quality due to it taking up a lot of nutrients from the water.
A good idea maybe for purely landscape ponds. That algae is terrible stuff. We tend to not use chemicals because we eat the fish. There is an super easy to make drag tool that is fantastic at cleaning up a pond, etc.. It cost about $30 (plus cost of rope) to make and lasts for decades. But one does have to have a way to pull the drag across the pond. We use an electric winch but some use a tractor, pickup, etc.. To see this tool, look for: "Homemade Weed Removal Tool for Pond." I enjoyed your video, thanks.
could you email me a more natural way with out using chemicals to remove debri. We eat the fish out of our pond as well. Its 13 acres total. I am trying to figure out away to remove everything in the fingers of our pond
@@jefflee1472 A wetland area could help with the algae, it would have to be huge to fully clear but even a smaller one can help keeping algae growth down. With a pond this size, all the rules of thumb goes out of the window, but if you could turn the water through a 9 wide, 3 long, 1 deep meter wetland ones a week, it can remove a huge amount of the nutrients, and keep the water healthy and that way keep algae growth down.
@@RonniRasmussen I have a stagnant pond. Would it be best to build the wetland area where the water flows into the pond or on the side where the water flows out of the pond? My plan would be to use a windmill pump to circulate the water back up hill.
What do you use? We have a pond/ small lake stocked with fish and some turtles, it’s getting a bit dark and not as pristine as before. What do you recommend to protect the fish and turtles?
love it how he measures, love it!
This is a very ancient technique. You use bright entrance ways to allow transition from outside to inside through main entrance ways.
Once inside the space you use long warm pallets of wood and stone to allow the mind to leave the outside world, like you do when you sleep. The water feature needs help though. Too much algae has taken all the benefits it would normally give if you could see it. This comes from overgrown trees and no bushes on the opposite side along the forest line. You can remedy this by planting Duck Potato, American Pondweed and Pickerel Weed. You can also get fresh water mollusks that will clean the actual water in no time flat. But I suggest using a combination of the two.
Seeing water for 20min a day is a natural stress reliever.
But as a fine finish carpenter I’ve spent enough time around the right people to learn things that I’m happy to share. Hope this helps? You do wonderful work and appreciate you showcasing this on an otherwise testy platform. Cheers
He had me at "I don't measure."
There is small public land lake in MS I fished bream and crappie for several years. It was a good lake. Those thick small type lily pad vegetation eventually took over the entire lake. You have a nice place. Good Video
Thanks. I appreciate it
I dye my pond and it helps cut down on vegetation growth
Great video! Thanks! I've used just about everything else and I still have a lot of algae. I'll be getting Copper Sulfate today and spray! Thanks!
Geese will control the algae and other vegetation and you won't have to spray anything. We bought acres and the pond was totally choked with cat-tails, algae and other water weeds and the geese totally cleared it within a couple of months, from then on the pond was clear and clean and looked magic.
My dad used Tilapia they do the job then expire by winter plus you catch big bass.
Hey man not trying to tell you what to do but you can hand spread the granular stuff like you used. If your gonna spray it try a chelated version ( ex caption Xtr , argos )
I appreciate that. I will give that a try next time.
Thank you so much absolutely amazing information... I thought that using copper sulfate was good enough without using other chemicals 💯
Would one or two sterilized carp not take care of that vegetation for you?
There are 2 in there now. They are a bit old. I may just need a few more
Thank you for posting this helpful video
I know this is a year ago but your video just came up in my recommendations. If your pond doesn't have a discharge outlet and it's landlocked I'd try lake dye. I dye my pond and I have no vegetation growing in our pond. Our pond is 25 years old now and the only thing living is the Lilly pads and the irises and of course the fish.
I have used that a couple of years and it does work well. Thanks. I will probably use it again next year.
my pond is full of algea because the water is not deep enough and has full sun, would it help to use dye? Which color did you use? And can you still see the fish swimming after you used the dye?
so you got algae and duckweed , so you use chemicals to remove the symptom and no seeking the solution for the problem that is to much fertilizer
It also kills the fishes among others.
We just moved into a house and our drinking water is the pond in the backyard. We have a filtration system in the basement. Can we use this? We are definitely in the dark on what to do to treat the pond! There is a bunch of algae growing. I tried scrapping all the algae off the top I did one pass and a few hours later you could barely tell I didn’t anything! Thanks for your help
@skylarJohnsano If you are drinking the water, you may not want to put anything into the water. I would consult a professional for that purpose. Your health is far more valuable than a pretty pond. Good Luck to you.
You need to drill a well, build a rain gutter - systern system, get water piped in, or haul water to your house. Surface water is pretty nasty without extensive testing and treatment, and I'd only trust a municipal or commercial outfit qualified to treat it like they do with reservoir water. Even rainwater is easier to clean than pond water. Use the pond for recreation and fire extinguishing.
What about with the fish? The Cupper sulfate did not killed them?
I have used copper-sulfate every year and I have tons of fish. It has never harmed them. It is not recommended for water gardens. I use it in several acres of water. It is significantly diluted once it hits the pond water.
Definitely need to run aeration if killing off lots of vegetation at same time
Question. How does all that copper and chemicals effect the wildlife in the pond. Copper can be pretty rough on a lot of fish and amphibians
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@freed991 I took information from Texas A&M. You can follow the link provided. Copper Sulfate is particularly harmful to trout and koi fish. It is best not to use this in decorative water gardens. I have not seen any fish die as a result of using this in my pond and my pond is FULL of fish.
It's a fish killer for sure very toxic kills other things too frogs, turtles If you want a hole with water in it and no beneficial aquatic life at all copper sulfate is your product!
Does the copper sulfate safe for the fish?
Yes, everything I have read said that its safe for fish and pets. The instructions say humans and pets can swim immediately after treatment.
Thank you mf🙏🙏
🚨 Wait! Wait wait. 🚨
I _just_ looked it up and the first thing on Google was that it is super toxic for fish.
An Amazon reviewer for it showed pictures of their dead fish as a result.
Beware!
@@midsouthoutdoors7321 What brand is your copper sulfate? I purchased a 50lb feed grade bag (Old Bridge) and while looking to see how much to mix, I noticed that it says it is toxic for fish.
@David Carraway Crystal Blue. You'll need to research it. It can be harmful to specific fish. I wouldn't use it in a koi pond. It has never harmed my fish. This is sold for pond algae control.
Sonar RTU to kill duckweed at 12:20 . It has worked every year on multiple ponds, but it is expensive.
I appreciate that. I know someone with a bad problem.
Thank you. Great info
Buddy the herbicide are ciodegradable and ecologic?
I am not totally sure. The company claims it dissipates out of the water column in 24 hours. That's why you can't store it after it has been mixed with water. This is the only herbicide I found that kills watermeal. That stuff covered my pond completely the first year I was here.
Will these chemical harm the fish and turtles and wildlife in the pond? Also have ducks x that come on my pond.
The information I reviewed showed it was not harmful to humans or pets. It showed to be harmful to trout and koi fish. I assume it could be harmful to other fish in heavy concentrations. Treating surface algae like this puts very little in the water column as a percentage
@@midsouthoutdoors7321 Thank you for reply good to know. I have alot of fish, turtles frogs just want to make sure they are safe. Great video!
Coppersulphate at what concentration?
What I use is a salt crystal that dissolves in the water. Whether it is correct or not, I put more of the copper sulfate salt into the sprayer than can be dissolved. The excess will simply sit at the bottom of my sprayer until I add more water next time. You will be spraying into water anyway which will further dilute it. This has always worked for me. The container will give mixing instructions if you'd prefer to be exact.
kills aquatic Life even at low concentrations
Is the herbicide harmful to fish and wildlife
Each product outlines this on the bottle. Some of them say they are safe for human and animals immediately after use. Some say to give it a day or 2. I have never seen any adverse reactions to the fish. Everything I use is specifically designed for use in ponds. Some of them would not be recommended for small decorative ponds with Koi fish.
Do you use beneficial bacteria or barley in your pond?
Bacteria. I usually buy MuckAway but have used several other brands.
Yeah, the recommended amount to use is supposed to be ignored. No measurements are needed. No telling what else you are killing by maybe using too much. Just dump it in til you think you got enough...
ya didnt hear him? its all dead...everything dead
dead
dissapated
and dead
@@SunAndMirror I didnt say ANYTHING about it not killing... I was actually talking about not using the correct AMOUNTS recommended by the manufacture! But I guess that you are supporting this kind of chemical use. People like you are part of the problem that we have today.
My pond has so much algae and duckweed, it’s a pretty good size too and 5 food deep in parts, should I get one of those aerators?
Yes. It you plan to kill off the vegetation, you will need one. The plants decompose and suck oxygen from the water.
Does this work on hair grass?
I am not sure. If you are referring to string algae, it is possible. That is not the same algae as I have. Texas A&M has some very good RUclips videos made by Biologist. This is where I sourced my information before treating.
Might be a stupid question but does this kill fish?
I would like to know been looking for something to clean my pond with and not kill my fish
Also waiting for an answer
No, it doesn’t hurt the fish. I’ve used it extensively and my fish are fine.
Do not use if you have Koi.
The curitine
Will this remove watercress? It has taken over our pond.
Copper Sulfate is an algae killer. I am not sure about propeller. 4-D herbicide kills watercress.
Chemicals in a pond? WTH!!!
fish and aquatic life killer
And after you jump into your pond you cut on electricity bill as you glowing at night😂
Will this kill duck weed as well?
I would think so. I haven't used it on it but it has killed everything it touched over here. It even killed poison ivy on the bank.
Does not kill duckweed. Diquat kills duckweed and a few others. They're all a bit expensive.
@@cmnightfaces Thanks for sharing. I know someone else that was looking for this answer too.
What about the aquatic life? copper sulfate is so toxic to them...
I treat with this every year and have never seen and health related issues in my pond. Copper Sulfate to sold for this purpose. The literature show to be harmful to trout and koi. It can be harmful to other species in concentrated doses but you only treat the algae and not every inch of water. It get significantly diluted in a pond this size.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful or argumentative... But the information that you are putting out there is incorrect. copper sulfate is toxic to aquatic life....... period.... I'm sorry just because you say it's not doesn't mean it's true.
did you actually remove my post showing that it was harmful to aquatic life??
@@vickiebordelon654 No Karen.
Let the grass carp into the pond, they will eat all the plants.
Our county (and State) won't allow grass carp because they are invasive, but they do work great!
They don’t eat the algae
@@GermanShepherdDaphne Did I say algae? Read better and look at the statement, they do eat all the plants on our golf course.
@@delawareteacher1182 Even if it's your pond on your land though? Like, if it's a small controlled area that isn't connected to anything I'd think it'd be fine. I get the reasoning behind it, but personally I'd be like "yeah I'm gonna get those carp anyway."
Why not save $ and install solor aeration?
This only cost $500-ish to build. The solar ones I found at the time were much more expensive. That would be a great addition for later. It would let me run it on the deep side of the pond.
I tried that copper sulfate and it killed all my fish!!!!!!
yep .. Even low doses of copper sulfate will kill aquatic life
What did you use to kill water mill
It's called Propeller. They sell it at thepondguy.com or you may be able to get it on Amazon.
SHOULD ADD IN YOUR VIDEO THAT IT WILL KILL FISH!!!
Does this work on a natural pond too? We have a human-height deep pond next to our house. The water looking dark black brown in color. I really dont know how to clean it 😢
Dark colored water sounds like muck and dissolved vegetation. It's hard to tell without looking at it. If it is just stained water, try a muck reducer. It is beneficial bacteria. It is healthy for the water. It makes the water clear and removes a lot of the muck from the bottom
Hi there. I.M.O. the last thing you want to do is spray a chemical/s into your pond thereby causing healthy vegetation (if you have any) to die and decompose in an already 'dank' and dying pond. A couple of things that can be done: the easiest and least expensive ( physical effort only) is to rake/drag the accessible pond areas of your pond, physically dragging the unwanted dead and dying rubbish to the side of your pond. Once the 'gunk' has gone, i.e. the dead abd dying plant debris, strategically add some potted water lilliesand other marginal plants (irises, papyrus and others) to give life in the form of a healthy natural, attractive balance to your pond. It won't happen over night, it will happen over the one season and the following year and for years after you will be enjoying a healthy good-looking pond, getting better and better each year,
If you want to go one step further, and it is an easy step...is to add grass carp or other similar fish to prevent over growth of unwanted plants such as algae, duckweed etc.
@@philipbacon3743 after observing, it looks like i have a swamp, instead of a pond. And previously. there was some big logs that my neighbor placed that fell into the swamp. So maybe yea, its possible the water turned dark because of the decomposing logs. My neighbor took the logs out of the swamp already, using an excavator. We are now left with some wood debris n trash in the dark water swamp. I appreciate your advice, i shall try cleaning the swamp from the leftover wood and trash. And shall look for some aquatic plants to introduce into it. Apparently the swamp already has some fishes and comodos! Cant see the type of fish though, cause its still murky water
@@midsouthoutdoors7321 i'll look into it. Thank you very much!
Copper sulfate, what about the fish?
RUclips search Texas A&M AgriLife Extension. This is the source I use to determine what to use in my pond. I use all sorts of pond products and have never seen a single fish death.
This is why people make fun of people in the south.... This right here...
You really should measure and use the proper amount....😁
Aw yis! The american solution of round up
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Why are you doing this. What are your motives? Im from Minnesota and noticed how crazy algee owns a lot of ponds. Help me if it matters. If it's just for looks I don't care
I do it for looks and for fishing. Algae and plant will take over this small pond if I don't treat it. It makes it impossible to fish.
so you putting chemicals into the lake ? thats horrible ! just clean the lake
Why don't you just plant filtering plants....
Seems kinda hairless monkey stuff.
Creeping Water Primrose
Dude that stuff is harmful for fish….
Fish will die in 3 to 6 months
sheet
I just don’t get it, you are all nuts.. why you want to kill everything is beyond me- also very lazy,
so foolish and unnecessary, should be illegal
Fool.
Bayou Study- thank you. Perfect. 👍🏻