Why fentanyl withdrawal is so unbearable
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- Опубликовано: 3 мар 2024
- Over 2 million Americans have opioid use disorder, according to some estimates. Illicit opioids such as heroin and fentanyl were responsible for over 80,000 U.S. overdose deaths in 2023.
Despite the known risks, these drugs are notoriously hard to stop using - due in large part to how debilitating withdrawal can be.
“People get trapped in this terrible cycle where they don’t feel normal, they can’t function, they feel horribly ill unless they’re finding and using opioids,” explained Sarah Wakeman, medical director for substance use disorder at Mass General Brigham. “People will forgo other basic, primal needs like connection and sex and food just to relieve their withdrawal symptoms. That’s how powerful it is.”
Medications such as methadone and buprenorphine are very effective at treating opioid dependence, but despite sky-high overdose death rate, these treatments are unnecessarily hard to access in the United States, according to experts.
In this video, Wakeman explains how opioids work in the brain and why they cause such nightmarish withdrawal symptoms. She also explains how treating opioid use disorder with approved medications can help people lead normal, productive lives.
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Day 9 no Fentanyl ❤
56 DAYS
Edit: 56 days sober, and still going strong. You can do that shit, never thought I would be able to, and I did it even when I didn't want to! You can get clean....AND be happy❤️💯🤙
How are you feeling?
@@sejibaby3453 I'm feeling pretty good, thank you for asking! Noticing the bordum starting to kick in alot more now that my withdrawals are calming down, the whole chaos of that lifestyle keeps you busy and always having something to do/think about. Now I'm just at my aunts waiting for the rehab bed to open up, and no longer have some daily adventure to attain dope that I gotta go on lol. My last couple of family members took my car and kicked me out and that did it for me!
I’m on day 7 but I been a HEAVY iv user fet fkr last 7 years and oxy and h 10 years before that. I’m miserable can barely strength tk write this
Hold on there guys I'm also here trying my best
Day 6 no fent blue pills. Was using 4-5 yrs daily. This was the hardest battle I ever experienced but it did so much for me mentally. I’ve always had a addictive personality so with this new start I’m building myself mentally and physically. We got this 🤝
I hate when people say withdrawal is like the flu. Withdrawal brings me to the brink of suicide
Facts I made it 5 days locked in a room an decided to try to get on a methadone program I kno I was gonna relapse its miserable
@@whitemamba0089dam foreal bro ?
@@whitemamba0089u still was feeling bad after not using 5 days ?
@@wievc1942 it is the worst experience I've ever had, like suicidal type of ideas to escape that an I was a light user I could only imagine a full on "junkie" if the devil is real he's in that drug lol
Going through it now. Week 3. Suicide thoughts finally gone. Still an emotional wreck. I’m doing all I can, eating, exercise, win hof, gummies, vitamins, hydration. Still sux.
I quit at 21. I’m 32 years old. Anything is possible. ❤
:)
That's incredible!!
It’s like drowning and feeling like you’re fighting for air,, an endless feeling of doom and pain..
Amazing how many people commenting on this video are going through it from all walks of life. Just shows what a universal struggle addiction is.
❤In the same sense, it's amazing to see how many people have tapped into There strength to overcome the hardest thing that they'll ever overcome addiction and change their life around To See another day
Perfect description! It's rare in the media.
I'm clean for 4 years. 17 years of drug use and 3 rehabs.. A long fight....
The withdrawal was torturous. The restless legs for 12 hours made me crazy.
Hell yea I feel you. The sleepless nights are horrible
12 hours damn. Mine lasted like 6 days.
I’m saying. 12 hours? Mine was like that for probably at least 6-7 days. It got better day by day. I can feel it now just thinking about it. I hated the smell that comes out your body and your pee stinks. Feet are sweating and too lazy and hurting to get a shower.
@@mikehunt4797- Even with huge amounts of Diazepam and Temazepam, Zopiclone and I still couldn't sleep properly or relieve my restless legs and that duvet thing where one minute your cold and then you throw your duvet off because your hot and clamy and you keep repeating that process along with the diarrhoea! This was a Heroin /Methadone withdrawal so I can't say if it is any worse than Fentynal as our Heroin ain't tainted with it but what I will say is thus is Methadone is worse to come off than Heroin. 🇬🇧
Jesus bro… why didn’t you go to your doctor for medicine? Requip is GREAT for restless legs. It stopped mine completely.
I am a combat veteran who was on opioids for 5 years due to severe spinal injury and when the doctor said “No more. Deal with it” I went cold turkey. I lived in my bathroom for 3 weeks begging for death. But the absolute torture was severe RLS and emotional instability! And I heard getting off fentanyl is a lot worse. Can’t even imagine anyone wanting to go back to it after they quit once and went thru this hell.
How do you manage the pain?
@@eustab.anas-mann9510 Marijuana (I use very little time after time but absolutely hate how I feel) and Kratom. We are all different and what works for me may not work for someone else. I know Kratom is addictive substance as well, but I rather rely on something legal and readily available. 🤷🏻♂️ Some of us live day to day and count small victories. I also suggest physical activities. Finding something that hurts the least and do it. Try to trick your body into thinking you’re somewhat healthy and it might help.
Wtf is wrong with your doctor?
The emotional instability it's terrible I've tried to explain this too it's terrible
how long did you have to deal with the withdrawal symptoms before your body finally adjusted and you were finally able to stop this addiction?
17 year old kid, i've had my issues with blues/fent/wtv you'll call it since i was 12. i just had a slip up and had a week of life that wasn't real. im so horribly dope sick now and feelings the consequences deeply. for all of you out there fighting this disease know you're not alone, you're loved and you matter. you're going to win. and so am i. humans make mistakes and it doesn't change your worth. keep fighting
Detox buddy...
👊🏾👊🏾🫵🏾✊🏾
I've been where you are, entire time I was 16 and 17 I was doing the same shit, im 18 and I still use sometimes, im homeless now though and currently trying to get out, I feel you dude I'm sorry, we'll get better tho yk? love you dude fr.
Big ol facts don’t let one slip up throw u into full relapse. We all fuck up just pick up where you left off and take it one day at a time. Learn from you’re mistakes so you don’t keep making the wrong decisions expecting different results that’s insanity.
@@danielquintana4963took me almost 20 something years to realize I was doing the same thing over and over again really thinking I was going somewhere. 1 step ahead but 2 backwards
It’s the hardest thing I’ve ever done in the 65 years of my life.
That's heavy 😮
Me too. The hardest thing in my 50 years
Easily the hardest. It's truly a nightmare come to life.
What would you say, which part did your faith play in your struggle, or was it before you became a Christian?
@@DominikKoppensteiner I was on a path of getting rid of ungodly things in my life and this was one of them. The Lord has given me the desire, hope, and most importantly the strength to endure these trials: smoking first, homosexuality second, drug and alcohol abuse next, all kind of abuse. I’m a totally different person now.
This person is smart and articulate. And is able to talk about this difficult subject without moralizing. Well done.
Yes, an excellent job.
Social worker and counsellor here - this was a fantastic video; i wish everyone in health care had this perspective and information.
Hey I am looking to study social work currently in a small community collage What program would you recommend if I want to go into mental health field to become a psychologist
@@Maniagio It is strange to be asking for such major, life-changing career advice from a complete stranger on YT. Especially since that person has no idea what courses are offered at your particular community college. You have access to plenty of information and advice at your college. Why not just ask there? One can't even begin to answer such a question without having much more information about what you want and what you can do.
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!
Yes, dr.sporessss I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place.
Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac.
He's constantly talking about killing someone.
He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
Is he on instagram?
Yes he is. dr.sporessss
I used heroin for 20 years, started using at 15y.o. Now in rehab for 12 years. All this is true.
I mean I don't think anyone would lie about being an addict. Congrats tho🎉
With my addictive personality I’m glad I never tried this poison. Must be a nightmare to get off of, my heart goes out to all of those suffering in the throes of addiction and trying to quit. I hope you all get the help you need.
If you say "it's like the flu" you've never did a cold turkey withdrawal
For me it was pretty much like a flu, but a reallllllllllly bad flu
thats a fact, IDK wtf kind of flu these people be getting....
Dude i know right, ill admit herion withdrawl did kinda feel like a really really bad flu, but fentanyl?!?!?! Whole different level.
ok how about it is like the flu, but for people who did it to themselves and should have known better?
@@bobloblaw9679 Your ignorance of substance use is amazing. I can almost see the diarrhea dripping down your chin.
The worst kick ever. Pure hell. Drenched in sweat while freezing. My hair hurts. Can't ever get comfortable for weeks. No sleep.
Hey how are you? ❤
@@ChicagoGurl I kicked. I'm back to normal now. Took almost 3 weeks but I'm feeling good hitting the gym, working. That was a hard-core withdrawal but I white knuckled it out.
@@user-yq7yi3dm8m that’s so awesome. Stay strong, 💪 You did it!!!!
@@user-yq7yi3dm8mHow are you now?
@@user-yq7yi3dm8m remember those feelings if you get a thought to use.
The cold sweats were the worst especially during the winter while having a physically laborious job! Forget about it! But recovery is still possible & life is actually good after! Its a tough fight but possible!
My God I know right! Those 10 hour plus days in the rain really bring you to your knees man lol, especially when your bones feel like icicles
33 days clean today, still going strong ❤️
You went to work while rattling? Wow you are one strong hardcore man as I can even drag myself out of bed. 🇬🇧👍
I am suffering from this now I work six days a week and am trying to quit it's hard as fuck man
@loudog3998 Gabapentin can also help with withdrawal but you must be careful.It causes drowsiness.
I know it works for those times one may get restless leg,arm or whole body syndrome.
Restless legs were the worst for me no matter how you lay you can’t get comfortable
Restless body! My entire body, my fucking finger tips, my torso is the WORST! I lay there and flap around stretching like a fish out of water! It's bad. To the point where I gotta get up but I can't even find the strength to get up.
@@mindaellis5054 my God... as a person who never did drugs it really sounds like hell. I know it's weird but I am actually physically afraid of drugs, because of the hell they bring. I wish you the strength to pull through this.
@@mindaellis5054 and the mental anxiety is brutal. Trying to sleep is the absolute worst. Ugh.
Absolutely! It’s maddening. If I had access to a firearm during withdrawal I wouldn’t be here now.
@@matthewstuart2054same is Brutal Brutal hellish hell. To be stable is such a beautiful thing. Just to have a normal body. To watch a film or read a book. To Go out for food and be able to eat comfortable and for your skin to feel normal and no hyposensitivity. Hope I can get clean. Starting to think am a lifer.
This is so accurate and great to see! Very well made, as a opioid patient that eventually turned to heroin and then fentanyl over the past 16 years…. And now finally started a methadone treatment program a few months ago…. We need to be talking about this more, especially the societal impact and stigma aspect. It’s already such a big mountain to overcome, the last thing we need is our family and friends treating us like trash, or like we deserve to go through it…simply because we made choices that lead us down this path… which let me tell you, it is a very slippery slope and anyone can find themselves on it in the blink of an eye 🤐🤯. I don’t wish it on my worst enemy, nor would I let anyone go through this struggle for me if I could. No one deserves the feeling of opioid withdrawal symptoms. Unless you’ve gone through it, you don’t truly understand what it’s like, please don’t forget that and try to be compassionate and patient❤.
I'm on methadone for close to a year now! The only thing I can suggest Is get yourself as quickly as you can off of it... Obviously I'm not saying 2 weeks or anything ridiculous like that. But if I knew I would have done my treatment in 6 months all of it instead of coming to a year and still being on it. Considering I went from 60mg down to 18mg now... It is very hard. That's why I'm saying the faster the better as methadone you also get withdrawals from it.. especially when your body gets hooked to it. At the end of the day it's an opiate and people abuse it especially when they haven't tried any drug like that before. But great job! The light gets brighter the more you get closer to recovery. It starts bleak but it is better and better. Also be mindful of "pink cloud turning to gray"! Meaning you will have moments of wanting to use after couple of months! It's normal! Everyone has this. But be strong and don't give in. Start to build your life again around you. Create bonds and relationships where you will not want to use again as you value the things around you. Otherwise your recovery is bleak... If you have nothing to fight for you will give in! But other than that remember you are strong! 90% of people that judge us! Would never ever go through what we went through! Keep strong! And value yourself for who you are! Look In the mirror and see what you have accomplished. As it's an accomplishment! And don't feel regretful, say that I have experienced the thrill and the bad side of this and also I'm alive and well! It's like any relationship in life whether it's a partner or hobby or craft of any kind..it's the same with drugs! It's an relationship that has come to an end! But you can still be friends! No sexual endeavour with her anymore but just talking to eachother. Obviously this is metaphorically speaking. I find it easier that way for me..as the fear of losing something is scary but knowing that she is still there being the drug I'm referring too. It's comforting.
How often do you go,most clean people get 28 days now since the V+VX.Thats the USA where they're trying to relax the laws after 50 years "motaA every other country in the world,all Europe, Australia,NZ, much of South America have you call a doctor who prescribes 30 days with 2 refills.
@@richardmaier28 I have to go to the methadone clinic 5 days a week 🤯😑! So frustrating and annoying, but I also understand sort of.
@@dominikkaszuba8420 thank you for your words of kindness and support! They are taken seriously and with a warm heart! You’re words have shown me how much I need to find a support group and system that I can rely on and trust to help support me. Thankfully I do have something to fight for… I found out in Dec. that I will be a father in august, a baby girl. The first for me somehow…🙈! I have lived three lives in one and tattood for the better part of 15 years. The fact I haven’t had a kid yet is mind blowing honestly, but is also all the more reason to finally be done playing with fire 🔥…literally 🤯.
Your going to be blown away by this but I’m already at 140mg of methadone and still struggling to stabilize 😶🌫️🥵! Having Strength is an understatement to the extent of what I’ve endured over the past few months, to say I’m clean would be a slap in the face to those who are…but I’m doing very well and have a realistic outlook for the time it’ll take to get my life back. I was doing a couple grams of strait fentanyl powder a day, and down to a few points every few days while I’ve been stabilizing onto the methadone. With having days without using at all. My goal is to be completely done supplementing by the beginning of may and on track for that.
Thank you again for taking the time to say a few words, it warmed my heart reading it and sounded a lot like something I would have said to someone else going through it 🥰.
Day three. So sick 🤢
Keep going!!
Day 1 … keep going… we can do this and live our lives to the fullest … wish me luck … but my resolve is the strongest it’s ever been
🤗🙏🏼
🙏🏼 try baths. break day into hours. chicken soup or bone broth.
@@emmapeel8163 YES!!! I forgot about that. I took so many showers when I was sick 👍
It feels like like the devil dipped his nails in poison and stuck them in every nerve ending at once.
I could never find the words to describe it, you describe it perfectly.
@@naeemtull2026I know, right? It's so poetic 🥲
That's a great way to put it. Unfortunately sober people think we are exaggerating for sympathy or to get more drugs. That couldn't be farther from the truth. I _wish_ we were just pretending to go through literal *hell.*
Another misconception is that people start doing opioids just for fun, but half the time it’s literally a prescribed pain med that causes someone to become physically dependent/addicted in the first place
Day 4 today !!!
how u feeling brother ?
day 1 today
Day 10 ! I hope that you are doing well ❤
Suboxone saved my life ❤
How’s everyone’s recovery doing today?
I am still doing good 🌝
Its time we kill this "2-5 days of withdrawal" myth.
I've had serious physical withdrawals well into 20 days or more. And that's just the majority of major physical withdrawals.
Then there's the paws (post acute withdrawl) that lasts up the TWO YEARS. This is a (mostly mental) withdrawal that consists of SERIOUS depression, major lack of energy, uncontrollable mood swings, as well as lingering physical withdrawals (SLEEP disturbances, restless leg syndrome, general aches and pains).
The " 3-5 days" timeline is a tell tale sign that a person has NEVER went through withdrawal themselves and only have clinical experience in treating (usually short sighted and very limited) opoid withdrawal.
Plz make this correction every single time you hear the "3-5 day" joke being made. The faster we kill this myth the better (and sooner) we can start treating opiate withdrawl accordingly.
I have done every drug in excess in every combination, known to man since I was 15. I went by ambulance to detox with a blood pressure of 86/43. Suboxone is working. My last dose was 04/09 at 11pm. I’m never doing it again. My body would not sleep and I thrashed in agony uncontrollably for days.
Are you still on Subox?
Nice, keep going. Even if you need to stay on low dose sub for a while.
This is SUCH a good video. That animation shown is by far the best visual representation of withdrawal I have ever seen. Dark, dirty, depressing... Excellent work 👏
The one stigma that bothers me the most is that people that have never been through it say it's a choice to live that way. Nope. It may or not have been a choice when starting the drugs but it certainly wasn't part of the plan for anyone I've come into contact w/ that have the goal of being a full blown junky. Sober from opioids since 2004. Life during those several years before that were a living hell.
"I was a heroin addict when I was 18 years old. I went through a bunch of rehabs for 5 years, but none worked, so I did the most insane thing I've ever done: I quit cold turkey after yo-yoing in and out of rehabs. It was a kamikaze move back then. I was going to die anyway, so why not go crazy? It was 2 weeks of hell: vomiting, muscle cramps, feeling freezing even though it was blazing hot outside, insomnia, etc. Believe me, it was hell. And what's worse is the withdrawal. For 3 months, all that was in my mind was drugs. The anxiety was almost unbearable. But after 3.6 months, it got better. I started going to the gym, earning some money, and my life was 1000x better. It was like getting out of jail. And that experience of stopping cold turkey gave me PTSD about drugs. Never again do I want to go through that. No way.
Now, I've been sober for 15 years. I go to the gym, work as an Android developer, and work from home, earning a very decent amount of money. Yeah, I rent my dad's home, but it's better than being homeless. Besides, he loves being around his grandkids. 16 years sober. My advice? Don't do what I did. Quitting drugs cold turkey is really hell."
Wow by far the best explanation to what these people-who by the way are human beings- suffer and suffer through. More compassion and empathy for human suffering. She’s exactly right!!
There are humane and effective methods for detoxing individuals in hospitals under medical supervision. However, these crucial services are still only available to those who can afford them, not to everyone who needs them. It’s essential that we work towards making such vital healthcare accessible to all.
Way more profits in turning them on to methadone. Withdrawals from Heroin could take 10 days, withdrawal from Methadone can take several months so once you're hooked on that they have you for life
Why? They got into it so they can out or die and decrease the addict population.
IM GRATEFUL GOING TO PRISON TO GET THE HELP I NEED IT SAVED MY LIFE AND IM GONA STAY CLEAN AND SOBER WORKING ON 2 YEARS CLEAN
Biker, when I first looked at this video, I was kind of chuckling to myself. There are a lot of guys in prison ‘jonesing’, eventually they get through it. I had never been arrested or in jail, but found myself in a house of correction of the age of 72 due to a false DV charge, I was later exonerated. Congratulations on your victory
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Your positivism is great ! It looks like you understand that is a fight you have to do on your own . So difficult . I wish you all the good luck !
@@woutervanlent5181 YES I APPRECIATE IT.. I SEE SO MANY PEOPLE STUCK ON THIS STUFF STILL AND THEY DON'T HAVE A REASONABLE ANSWER TO GET HELP.. ITS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT IT.
I just had 8 years clean off of heroin. I got sober right when fentanyl started hitting the streets of Philly. I got so lucky I missed it cuz all of my friends died from it shortly after
Thanks for sharing and wishing you all the best and sorry for the loss of your friends
Hope you’re doing well and im sorry for your loss.
you're also missing all the next gen opiates, including one I heard about that is loads stronger than fentynl and requires twice as much narcan if you OD. And it doesn't show up in standard tests. It was so harsh that even drug companies said "no this is too much." So you KNOW its a problem if that's the case. Unfortunately someone found the recipe decades later. i remember hearing about it in a video hosted by Simon Whistler. I think it was under Into the Shadows.
Thank you for explaining this.
I think reduction always works, as long as you can stand against the craving. 5% less every day (or 10% less every 2 days) and you are out in about 3 weeks.
Great video, with beautiful explanations!
It’s dangerous describing how fentanyl makes you feel: if I was able to realistically describe the feeling almost everyone would run out to find some. 🤐
Thank you for educating us - this was very informative. Withdrawal sounds absolutely nightmarish. I didn’t know about the whole neurotransmitter aspect.
This is an excellent piece.Thank you very much
I really appreciated watching her talk.. she was very informative and compassionate.. which isn’t something you always get with people talking about addiction
i just want my nose and eyes to stop running.
Boy those are the easiest parts of withdrawal lol
@@whitemamba0089lmfaoooo facts , talk to me when you can’t quit movin your legs , can’t find any position that’s even remotely comfortable , or when your shitting urself , I can go on an on, the twitches , the sweats , hot cold . Straight hell
And the worse part is, you know EXACTLY what can instantly cure that horrible feeling 😢🥲
@@XstonedmonkeyzX I’m right now literally dying dope sick
@@jdaman3960 best way is to taper down. And best way to taper is using nasally. Since you can each time, or day use less and less until you're using a very tiny amount. And its easier to see that you're using less in powder form than anyway else... Before breaking, I was able to make a $5 dollar buy, last me 3 days!!!
I was doing fetty, meth, and xanax every day. I got hit by a car and woke up a month later. Another month of learning how to walk and I left that hospital sober. That car running me down in the street was the best thing that ever happened to me. I dont even take perscribed pain killers. I smoke weed for any pain that arises from the accident, and that's it. Being in the hospital for a little over 2 months really sucked but it isn't as bad as kicking fentanyl cold turkey in a jail cell.
Geeze. This is the best withdrawal video I have ever seen. Explained so well. I just went through precipitated withdrawal 2 days ago from wanting off and taking subs too soon. My god it was so horrible.
Hey me too… just last month went into precipitated. Felt like I was dying. That was what did it for me , that sucked!
Amazingly described, thank you xo
God damn. So well said and articulated. You basically covered everything. This is like the best elevator pitch for people who don't understand addiction, physical dependence or methadone/suboxone treatment. Fantastic!
Smart, learned, well read, and compassionate.
Very well communicated and spoken.
What a lovely real and compassionate lady.
In a few days I will be at one year clean from fentaynl. Quit myself which not the best idea but I got thru it and I can't believe I'm a few days from a year. Worst thing to go thru ever but if your determined just make sure you have a support team to encourage you to keep clean. Make a list of things that you enjoy or things you miss about your life prior to this lifestyle.
The restless legs and arms WHILE AWAKE was enough to make me cry. It really fucking sucks
No words can describe how torturous and relentless the feeling is.
Being dog tired but unable to stop moving to try find relief. Praying for sleep to try kill time only for sleep to finally come and you wake up praying hours have passed but it’s only 10 minutes when you check your watch.
Knowing you could ring someone at any moment and they can bring relief directly to your door. It’s just mental and physical torture
.....im about to start voluntarily in the next several days. Late 40's, and i cant remember being this scared...ever.
Start doing fentanyl voluntarily?
8 Days further now . How are you ? Your comment impressed me . Good luck !
Fear of wds is powerful and is often worse than the actual wds...Best of luck!
Wish everyone would be as knowledgeable, informed, and as empathetic as this. Being a long time recovering addict myself, I know exactly what full withdrawal looks like, and feels like. Not sleeping for 2 and a half weeks and only passing out from pure exhaustion for maybe 30 min here and there is something I would never want to go through again. That doesn't include the pure agony of how you feel physically, emotionally, and mentally.
Very well done!
This is the best video describing opiate withdrawals ever..
I'm a medical professional. I knew that the withdrawal was fatal. I had no idea how. Thank you for this video. It filled in a lot of knowledge gaps.
What an amazing and compassionate women!
I once got hooked on opioids, after getting them prescribed in relation to my severe sleep problems.. that's was a really shitty time. I hope everyone who reads this and who is struggling gets better as soon as possible. This specifically is something I wouldn't wish on anyone
Great video!
Quito-Ecuador 🇪🇨
Ive been through benzo and alcohol withdrawl. I never did opiods cause it i knew i would like it. Withdrawls are no f-ing joke, its a goddamn nightmare. Huge respect for anyone who quit or is trying to. Its not easy.
Wow! What a very well laid out video. Thank you.
Shes speaking absolute facts,,,shout out from London
well said, great video
I was prescribed this for a few days following a major back surgery. Its ability to pain manage was far beyond what i thought was possible by medication alone.
Long story edited. I fell, ended up having back surgery. After being on Fentynal for 15 years, I quit 'cold turkey'.
It was only by the grace of God that I had restless legs for 2 nights only and never felt withdrawals, cravings or the need to go back to this medication.
My pain specialist says it takes 3 months approximately for the brain to return to normal.
God can do anything. This was my personal experience.
I really loved how she explained the concept of survival instincts. That's was very well put. However, as someone who went through the whole suboxone ringer on and off for multiple years without any long term success after getting off (and detoxing off the suboxone for 30 straight days), WHY do doctors not properly explain what an opioid antagonist ACTUALLY is and what it is ACTUALLY doing? Continuing to feed the parts of your brain craving the drug. Literally antagonizing the addiction while also suppressing it. If youkep applying stress and pressure to something as cunning baffling and powerful as addiction, like our human instinct to survive like this video was comparing. My next very serious question as the target of your audience, why do we only talk about the things that are antagonizing and suppressing and yet almost no one knows about vivitrol? They don't know because prescribers don't mention it. You have to be the one to bring it up. But why is that if we are really trying to help people regain their health? It had no physical dependency. It's a once a month injection which provides a massive safety net in times of uncertainty that methadine and suboxone, that are taken daily, do not. It removed the craving for it enough that when I felt like I would have given in the first couple weeks before the vivitrol really started working, I knew I couldn't. Because it was a 1x per month injection. I only had to make the decision 1 day a month. For an addict or alcoholic that daily decision could be the difference between life and death. You also cannot get high off of vivitrol or the daily pill form of vivitrol, neltrexone. I got off fentynal and on Vivitrol and stayed on it for 4 months. I have not gone back since. After about 5 years on opioids/opiates. I have been off for almost 4 months and I don't ever have cravings. I have no desire for them. I'm truly blessed to have gotten away from Percocet, heroin, fentanyl, meth, cocaine, and tons of ecstasy after 16 years of addiction. I maintain with other things that work for me and they are not pills or drugs or anything like that. I connect with like minded people who had a solution that worked for them to offer to me for “fun and for free because someone did it for them,” they say. These questions are not to be attacking or to knock anyone who is staying off the streets by being on these medications. I'm just asking valid questions as someone these medications are targeted for and who has been through them time and time again. I believe the vivitrol worked for me as far as my physical brain goes because I was no longer feeding the addiction while also blocking it from being free to have what it wanted. And I didn't even have intense cravings. I just had to figure out what to do physically with myself instead of sit around anxious until I inevitably went back to the drugs. For me being active helps tremendously. Also magnesium. Please. If you struggle from addiction look uo the benefits of magnesiumand add vitamin D3 once a day to help with depressive symptoms. Essential oils work amazing too for depression and anxiety. Look up which ones are best for your personal needs.
I hope this can open room for consideration and for me and anyone reading it to continue to be aware and question what we are told and not told and what other options we have available. Vivitrol is very hard on the liver so check with your doctor of course as I am not one.
Greatly said.
Great video, i've learned a lot! The women in this video sounds very eloquent and educated, a pleasant listening experience in my opinion.
Absolutely. Bless this brilliant gem of a human.
The drinking out of a toilet bowl and the primal instinct to quench one’s thirst was the perfect analogy for what an opioid addict goes through. Your brain is telling you subconsciously that you need more of the drug the same way it tells you that you need to drink. The brain gets rewired and now another primal instinct has manifested that normally wouldn’t have been there if the drug was never taken. This is how I am going to explain it to people when the tell the addict that it’s a choice and they should just stop.
She got this spot on. Once you’re doing them just to not get sick it’s time to quit. 9 days sober. Withdrawals are actual hell physically and mentally it’s torture.
This is a great video
I’ve been clean for 44 years.
I’m 45 years old in 4 months and still going strong
This video is great, i had a motorcycle accident in 2021 left me with severe back injuries I was prescribed strong opioids for the intense backpain pain, in the first couple months I would only use them when absolutely necessary like days that needed to very physical stuff done, the most I did them in a row was 5 days then I stopped. I noticed I wasn't able to sleep at all even though I was tired by the second day i realized i was having withdrawals of the opioid then put it into prospective for me just how strong these things are by the third day it subsided and the 4th day I was able to sleep again. From then on i decided not to take any opioids and deal with the pain since anything over the counter didn't help and after 2 years of raw dogging it the pain is finally subsiding and my quality of life has drastically improved. I'm very glad I stayed away from opioids because I'm almost certain if I hadn't I would've become an addict. I knew id prefer the pain of my injury over the pain of addiction.
Liked addiction and dependence distinction and how maintaining the dependence while treating addiction is key
As a recovering opiate addict that started snorting dilaudid as a teenager and quickly progressed to IV dilaudid use , years later i got on methadone , and when fentynal started showing up in canada i started smoking and iv use of benzo dope (fentynal/carfentanil mixed with benzos) while also on methadone ) im clean from illicit drugs now but i am still prescribed kadian morphine and methadone together. this lady clearly understands opioid addiction very deeply and her compassionate explanations of what its like are a breath of fresh air from the medical community. Im so scared to one day come off my meds but its something i want to be able to accomplish someday. But even on stable doeses of methadone and kadian for years now the fear of coming off it is too great at this time
I'm a substance abuse nurse and your toilet bowl water reference is great!
very well explained, 4 months clean.
life is beautifulll
Subs saved my life over a decade ago, and it’s help me stay alive to this day. Thank god the stigma is starting to change
Well said lady
I have never felt any sort of euphoria from my prescription patch of fentanyl. I have a serious chronic pain disorder called RSD or CRPS. It s been over ten years. Is the new rapid change an advisable option for me? TY.
If you are referring to quitting cold turkey. NO. If you are curious, give it a try but make sure you have your patches on hand for when it gets to rough and you change your mind. Don't just let the prescription lapse or you that will be the worst decision of your life.
I went through withdrawal from my antidepressant for just a single day and it was hell. I can't even imagine how much worse fentanyl or drugs like it are to withdraw from. Actually terrifying.
Withdrawing in jail is even worse especially when you don’t have subboxon
yep i went cold turkey in uk prison ..and it was a nightmare ..but i got over it ...
For some people with less self discipline it can be effective sometimes.
I can deal with the pure physical symptoms but the anxiety, dysphoria, and malaise are virtually unbearable.
Currently have my dad at my house trying to get him off that shit he just ruptured his spleen and has cirrhosis. He’s gonna have one hell of a time for a couple days but I know he can do it. Please pray for us y’all. I’m praying for everyone
Hey I'm going through it right now. I don't have anything to balance it out with. It feels like it's tearing my hips apart. Is that normal?
Hang in there you’re almost through the worst part or you are by now it gets better after a week or so
yes, that's is normal
11 years clean of opioids. Withdrawal was absolutely horrible.
i had precipitated withdrawl from starting suboxone too soon and let me tell you - it is WAY worse than your typical withdrawl symptoms.
Iv had a opiode addiction for 25 years off and on! Clean fora few years then slip up fora few. Just hit a year clean again and feel great🎉🎉
great video! it is high time we as a society let go of moralistic views from the past and treat this big issue with respect and science
I’m 7 days in and i can’t handle it anymore.
I hear you man. I hear you, but you can. You're almost done. ALMOST DONE! Hardest part is ending. Make it one more minute, it's OK to not handle it anymore. Don't think about the past, don't think about the future, your friends, your family... just the next minute. Almost there dude.
Man just drink a lot water bro. I'm here also trying my best man you can do it man don't give up man
I'm 7 days in too man
You're Golden.
Oh hunny.
While I was withdrawing, I went seven days, almost without eating or drinking because I couldn’t bear the thought. I would be nauseated thinking of trying to eat or drink anything. It’s so dangerous, please do it professionally. But do it!
Natural apple juice saved my day in my withdrawal experience. It gives you some energy and won't make you vomit
some people need opioids withdrawal is not the answer for everyone, some will be fine on methadone while a small group will need heroin prescription. Consider the hill tribes of Loas whose old people smoke opium as its their cultural right ,the only group of human beings with an international recognized right to use opium .
Great video she did well, very informative and simpled down for anyone to understand
😢 this how I feel it’s so hard to fight a battle that your kind of clueless about where to start what to do???? Everyone is in my prayers everyone and your all worthy !!!!!!
All that pain you thought you'd managed to dodge? Here it is, all at once.
Yup exactly that.
Withdrawals symptoms of drugs are no joke, I quit Effexor cold turkey because it made me feel detached from the world and other people. I often felt i was on the verge of suicide for two months, not to mention the brain zaps, migraines, constant restlessness and nausea. I forcefully sheltered myself because I couldn't even function properly and I was afraid of what I could do to myself, it was a hellish experience.
I was on fentanyl patch + morphine liquid around the clock for about last 3 months of cancer treatment. I had little difficulty withdrawing off the narcotics.
Not possible. They must've weaned you down so you didn't experience that bad of withdrawals. You don't just 'not withdrawal' from opioids
The worst aspect of opiate withdrawl for me was the restless leg/body. It means you simply wont be able to sleep. For DAYS. And youll feel horribly exhausted like all you want to do is sleep. But no matter how hard you try you simply cant.
they gave me this in hospital. incredible. the pain turned into heat. i kept asking for more. glad they refused.
Some people need these to treat conditions like RLS and perhaps fibromyalgia.
I got hooked at 55. Walked away at 56. It was hell but I did it. If it wasn’t for my family I would be gone by now
2:05 This happens with other drugs too, caffeine is a great example. You end up needing to drink more caffeine to keep the effects, but that makes the crash a lot worse.
This video proved to be thought provoking. On the oposite side of spectrum, my grandmother used to say that she was sore all the time, that it had become the new normal to her, no problem. Same with me and sore muscles, or cold exposure, I kind of block it out. Basically it shifts my happiness curve up. Like first investing, living with pain, and then when it is gone it feels good. Same result as if I first took heroin and felt shitty later, only the other way around. It basically boils down to one's willingness to accept delayed gratification. The main difference between approaches seem to be that one makes you healthier and the other sicker, one enhances your future and the other destroys it, and one is respected by people and the other is despised. The pain therapy!