5:30 Marss is spitting here. The entire reason I think Ganon shouldn't be on the top 5 "to be fixed" list is because he's a fun underdog character to root for: yes, he isn't the most faithful to his home series and yes, he could be a lot better if they incorporated that, but Smash. Ganon is so iconic I would rather that the canonical version be an entirely separate character added instead. (Also how did Seph, Kirby, and Luigi make it on this list and Min Min/Olimar didn't)
People have said it for years man, you could put Ganon's moveset on someone like Black Shadow and he would make an infinitely more sensible choice for a Falcon clone while giving Ganon room to get an actual, proper moveset. It's just so funny that characters like Ganon and Sonic, characters who are absolutely confirmed to be last-minute additions in Melee/Brawl respectively, have had barely any meaningful touch-ups. It's like turning in an assignment messily at the last minute, but the teacher is cool and gives you another week to finish it proper, only for you to STILL wait until the last minute again.
I agree that Ganon makes for a good underdog, but there's a lot of problems with that. For one, that bit can only be drawn out for so long. Two, it's a false dichotomy. Ganon could be given an original moveset and *still* be a big, clunky underdog. Just give the man his damn moveset already.
Better idea, they have 3 links in the game now. Why not have bad ganon and then add like windblight ganon or something like that so you can have a faster or more faithful version as an echo
@aab1254 Luigi easily needs a rework, I mean, Green Missile and Luigi Tornado does not seem to represent something particular and has a lack of references to Luigi's Mansion and M&L games, and the costumes are poorly designed with references that nobody would guess (except Fire Luigi and Waluigi skins)
Out of everyone, Ganondorf needs to be changed the most; not only because he isn't accurate to the Zelda games or because he isn't viable; his design as a whole has no reason to exist anymore. Incineroar came as his replacement.
Disagree he's the most needing of it. He's actually fun even in his horribly designed state. Ideally he gets updated anyway but ain't no way he needs to be changed more than like, Sonic, who actively ruins the game. Sonic doesn't get updated, the game is once again ass to play against him. Ganon doesn't get updated? He'll still be a fun but shitty character. In terms of like actual moveset representation I could see the argument of him needing it more but gameplay wise it's not as urgent. Also knowing modern design philosophies he'd likely become way more annoying since the design team clearly didn't know what they were doing for like half or more of the newcomers since brawl. Absolutely no consideration for how fun characters are to play against.
I don't exactly disagree with the notion of these characters needing changes, but holy FUCK the proposed changes his puts out are... 💀 genuinely some of the worst suggestions I've ever heard. Yeah sure, give Kirby an awkward looking minecart tier burst option, it's not like he has an entire fighting game roster's worth of other copy abilities that would make for more interesting and sensible special moves. Make Sonic's side B a move that keeps him in place and sends people upwards. Also make it from Heroes, the game that most people don't think fondly of these days instead of something from Frontiers. I genuinely do like his content but this shit is baaaaaad dude. Spitting with Luigi tho.
That sonic heroes bit is so arbitrary, so what if it's a game that most don't think about: it's source material. And a more distinct place to pull material from at that.
@mildlyinvested2992 That's a fair enough point, even when writing that I knew I was showing bias. The better point to make is I don't feel like a move with properties like that fits the "side B" material since he insists on keeping the down special Spindash (Which I do agree with), and that I just feel there's more interesting and fitting moves to fill that slot. If you were to get rid of the down B spin charge for it, it would make a lot more sense in that slot, but I also feel the down B charge is a much more "iconic" use of the Spin Dash so it needs to stay. Point being a mostly stationary tornado move would not be a fitting spot for a side special.
I don't know why he thinks Sephiroth is badly designed. A character with massive strengths SHOULD have massive flaws. Did the rest of the DLC characters being poorly designed cause him to think an actually balanced DLC character is badly designed?
Sephiroth is easily one of the strongest characters in the whole DLC roster from a pure design standpoint. His kit has clear strengths and weaknesses that lead to very unique play (The closest comparison is probably Ridley, but the two feel very different)... and most importantly, he's fun to use! I don't have a strong connection to FF7 and didn't care much about him going in, but he just feels cool. He's not particularly fast, but those huge hitboxes can strike fear into the hearts of opponents! There are lots of ways he could be fine-tuned if a theoretical balance patch occurred, but the kit itself feels solid to me. Meanwhile, I appreciate that they swung for the fences on some of the other DLC characters, but most of them land in such polarized gimmick territory (Min-Min, Steve, Kazuya, Hero, Plant my beloved) that they would need to be reworked from the ground up to stick around in the next entry, and are probably better off not coming back at all.
Ganondorf's HDR moveset is actually kinda good in a not broken way. Similar to HDR but with a decent combo up tilt (he shoves the hilt of his sword upwards), no cape, and f-tilt can be angled
i dont mean to be harsh but the reviewed video is honestly kinda garbage, all of the aforementioned characters COULD use reworks, sure, but it feels like he chose specific characters he just dislikes and what he dislikes about them and what might make it more enjoyable for him rather than what would help these characters fit into the game more cohesively with the rest of the cast
I think what a lot of people miss is that these characters are, first and foremost, archetypes in a fighting game. They exist to fit a playstyle that has a target audience + obvious strengths and weaknesses. When you start going all fanfic with these reworked movesets you either need to adhere to their current archetype or change their archetype entirely. It's why ROB is such a poorly designed character - he's archetypeless, he has the tools to win at every range playing at every speed. HDR dk is like this. They took dk's existing archetype, one that excels when they make it in with fast + strong attacks and great shield pressure but struggles to make it in due to a lack of antizoning and having a massive body, and gave him an annoying ass barrel projectile that he can chuck around and hit like wii fit's football. Now dk is a square hole character like ROB.
Not necessarily characters but mechanics that I think got to go are no more action out of up special. Everybody has to commit when they want to recover, but Sonic and G&W, it's obnoxious that they have up-B and then continue to do whatever they want where nobody else can. Also, no more free items. I'm sorry Rob, Diddy and Peach mains, but I hate that you just get unlimited free item use at no cost. It's annoying and I don't like it and if it were my decision, I'd have it deleted in the next game
Seph should totally be heavier and not lose wing. Maybe make nair a good oos option, but the rest is fine. I think he's super interesting because wing is so broken, yet his kit is undertuned - that's literally what Lucario was always supposed to be like and I love that. Character is cool, just needs some more consistency to be more viable competitively
I've always been down for kirby side B to also be inhale. And either inhale can copy. When you copy you take the neutral and side B. (Both copy moves are a tiny bit weaker that the original) Anyone else? Everything else just works, he's not busted, fun to play as and fun to play against currently. But that little tweak would be even more fun
What i learned making moveset and balancing mods is that not all, but a large amount of 'fixes' are leftover spite from top tiers, and when you give yourself a few days after having ideas for changes they seem absolutely broken. When you introduce extra broken gimmicks for your fav characters you always test playing vs them as an opponent. You will know what feels like bullcrap.
I think it would be sick if Kirby copied ALL specials of the opponent he inhaled - could you imagine Kirby forward throw into shoryuken or Kirby using flip kick for recovery it’d be awesome
I'd honestly like to see them remove a lot of the comeback mechanics like Wing, GO, Limit, etc. Either that or give all characters some sort of meter/comeback mechanic
Some characters are casual characters and don't really need to be better, it is more important how enjoyable to play with or against and how thematic they are
Sonic is super impatient, surely we can just make it so that if no damage is done for a while he starts controlling funny or something, giving incentive to try camp the sonic, giving him a use for his speed
the LEAST they can do is rework atleast ONE of the samus's. They don't even got to delete the base kit if they don't want. why do we got TWO samus that haven't changed ever
Ganon having the triforce of power is misinterpreted “power” in this instance doesn’t mean strength it means unnatural magic like power. This should be obvious him being the gerudo king he is probably quite skilled and his size is also quite exceptional for a race that it’s already exceptionally tall,the “power” he covets is beyond that of strength cause he knows strength alone won’t win him conquest over hyrule
me and my sibling have put over 20k matches in on doubles, and my conclusion is that over half of these characters are literally unplayable, in-that they just lose one-dimensionally to a bunch of other characters. doc gets stuffed by heros, ganondorfs, incineroars, byleths, not worth touching the character. mewtwos body is too long and all of the generous hurtboxes make him die to most heavies. the only solution is to play to overtuned DLC and mii characters, or abuse the heck out of wifi characters like krool or ike. I have good stats with my main kirby but games take way too long trying to pin down your opponents because EVERYONE has gotten good at wiggling out of punishes. you gotta punish things noone punishes to win, and some characters just dont have the kit in 2024 to be able to do it.
I hate when people talk about changing Sephiroth because they forget that wing last as long as he has his stock. Sephiroth with the weight of Cloud becomes a top 5 character but he starts three jumping like Sheik and refuses to play neutral until you have some orbs lol
Sephiroth is high tier without wing and then top 10 with it. Him being that light is needed because he just doesn't get hit since his range makes his moves so safe
Vars was clearly picking characters from some predefined catagories: some personal shit (sehiroth), a ToD character (luigi), a community fan hated character (sonic), the lowest tier list (gannon), and a under utalised character (kirby). All in an effort to appeal to some but not all.
Ganondorf and Sonic ansolutely need total reworks, but for diffeent reasons. Ganondorf is the main villain from one of Nintendo's core franchises, its frankly embarassing that hes remained a worse Captain Falcon for this long. He has a lot to pull from the games, making him more weapon based or magic based or even a combo of the two. Sonic is one of the most toxic characters and even competitive aside, dude deserves better considering his moveset was rushed to make it on time for Brawl. That excuse doesnt fly anymore, he doesnt need so many moves that turn him into a ball. Im not a Sonic fan but considering his history they can pull from fo much, and it would help the competitive health of the game too because everyone hates Sonic camping and timing people out. Seriously, I dont even watch videos with Sonic anymore. Kirby is a weird one tho? Im not a Kirby fan but i think hes mostly fine? Like yeah maybe get rid of side b for something from his newer games but everything anout him feels pretty well done for the most part. Sephiroth is mostly fine, just fix his wing and his weight. I honestly do agree hes overly balanced, i get that they had to make his sword moves slow considering how huge they are but they kinda overdid it making his hitboxes have a bunch of weird sourspots. And considering he's one of the tallest characters it also really hurts him to be that light and frankly doesnt make any sense. He should at least be like Cloud. The only other thing is his wing, honestly as soon as he gets it he should just keep it, or at least only lose it after he's KO'd like Terry's go. The fact its percentage based is honestly really stupid and makes it poorly implemented. And yeah I agree on Samus, always gated how Smash makes her super slow since its not reoresentative of the games at all, snd shes had the same Super Metrood moveset since 64 despite changing designs. I really hope they update her design from the awful Other M suit to Dread and give her a new moveset that doesnt make her feel super slow
we arent getting ultimate HD, but i tihnk the next smash will be similar to ult bc i think theyll wanna use ultimate as a base for the next game, because that way makes it alot easier to not have to remove a bunch of characters so no engine changes bub have fun with fountain of dreams still being banned because of ice climbers i dont think theyll be thattttt many new characters, but my copium is hoping for an actual story mode. i pray everyday that sakurai stops having a temper tantrum over people uploading sub space clips to youtube
if ganon didnt suck ass he wouldnt be cool at all he would just be mad annoying rework him to make him more like ganon but i dont like the idea that charaters need to be balanced, some of them being garbo is fine, especially in a game like smash where they have to balance for casuals and comp players at the same time
i dont think the game could or should look that different from how it is now, the only thing that really needs work is gameplay and expanding the roster
i think for kirby they should just change his smash attacks, rn theyre boring ass kicks, pretty satisfying to hit, but still theyd be cooler if they referenced copy abilities from kirby games also please just buff his air and ground speed slightly, not alot so hes not busted but just enough so hes not so awful to play against any character with range
Someone needs to free this man. Get him a W2 or something. Who knows what might happen if the next smash is as good as the gum you find under diner tables. Honestly, the newer content makes me recognize how much Chippy helped him out. It was the same stuff, but it was predictable and entertaining. Not unlike a good sitcom.
@@blocks4857 Easiest fix I've always thought was no staling from hitting blocks, and every tier of weapons should have the damage and knockback of the previous one(iron being cobble damage, cobble being wood, and wood being almost equal to fist).
Meta Knight needs a rework 100%, most boring gameplan aka fishing for dash or grag and try to ladder the whole game. People just forget him cause hes neither trash nor good
Nah I think Meta Knight is simply about the numbers. He was very interesting in Brawl, but broken unfortunately, and then they nerfed him too hard after that. He could be a really cool aerial fighter if given the right momentum
He was more boring in Smash 4. He has more interesting stuff in Ult. He isnt just ladders he still has insane edgegurding and he wins a lot of meta relevant MUs like Min Min and Palu
@@Remmyrouser They are WAY harder than Luigi's Luigi's has basically no difference, Kazuyas needs perfect execution and tracking opponent di and sdi, and a very good understanding of the weight of the opponent so that nair doesn't send into tumble.
@@yukimori7762Kazuyas 0-d are really easy to perform. There is literally a blue line that shows where the opponent is DI ing. Also SDI doesn’t work against kazuyas but affects Luigi 0-d so much more.
@@Piggles64099 other way around, sdi Luigi combos does barely anything. Also I wasn't saying Kaz combos are hard, just harder than Luigi's. Luigi's are the easiest in the entirety of ult
Why the Luigi hate lmao, he’s perfectly balanced. Good combo game and grab but the 3rd worst disadvantage in the game. There’s a reason there’s only 2 notable Luigi’s ever.
Yeeeaah. I checked out on this one when he said he doesn't know Ganon from the games and that he wants air ride for Kirby.....I am not even certain Ganondorf has punched anything in a Zelda game. He has either had a sword, or blasted something with magic.
Kirby should have elemental buffs to moves depending on who he eats so if he ate mario he would get fire ball flame sword up b magic hammer side b and water stone down b
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Luigi got the grab on the ceo and there was no sdi that saved him
Broken 0-death pls nerf
Cant believe luigi would assasinate the ceo, he definitely needs a rework
He was finally pushed to his limit when Bowser denied the claim for Daisy's surgery
Sephiroth wing should only disappear after he dies and only for that stock
5:30 Marss is spitting here. The entire reason I think Ganon shouldn't be on the top 5 "to be fixed" list is because he's a fun underdog character to root for: yes, he isn't the most faithful to his home series and yes, he could be a lot better if they incorporated that, but Smash. Ganon is so iconic I would rather that the canonical version be an entirely separate character added instead. (Also how did Seph, Kirby, and Luigi make it on this list and Min Min/Olimar didn't)
People have said it for years man, you could put Ganon's moveset on someone like Black Shadow and he would make an infinitely more sensible choice for a Falcon clone while giving Ganon room to get an actual, proper moveset.
It's just so funny that characters like Ganon and Sonic, characters who are absolutely confirmed to be last-minute additions in Melee/Brawl respectively, have had barely any meaningful touch-ups. It's like turning in an assignment messily at the last minute, but the teacher is cool and gives you another week to finish it proper, only for you to STILL wait until the last minute again.
I agree that Ganon makes for a good underdog, but there's a lot of problems with that. For one, that bit can only be drawn out for so long. Two, it's a false dichotomy. Ganon could be given an original moveset and *still* be a big, clunky underdog. Just give the man his damn moveset already.
min min needs to be removed
Better idea, they have 3 links in the game now. Why not have bad ganon and then add like windblight ganon or something like that so you can have a faster or more faithful version as an echo
@aab1254 Luigi easily needs a rework, I mean, Green Missile and Luigi Tornado does not seem to represent something particular and has a lack of references to Luigi's Mansion and M&L games, and the costumes are poorly designed with references that nobody would guess (except Fire Luigi and Waluigi skins)
Out of everyone, Ganondorf needs to be changed the most; not only because he isn't accurate to the Zelda games or because he isn't viable; his design as a whole has no reason to exist anymore. Incineroar came as his replacement.
I feel like you could actually probably get away with a fair amount being roughly the same if you were to just package it to feel more significant.
I agree he’s been bad every game
He was rushed and poorly researched
@@thegam3rcube686 In his first showcase, Its been 23 years since
Disagree he's the most needing of it. He's actually fun even in his horribly designed state. Ideally he gets updated anyway but ain't no way he needs to be changed more than like, Sonic, who actively ruins the game. Sonic doesn't get updated, the game is once again ass to play against him. Ganon doesn't get updated? He'll still be a fun but shitty character. In terms of like actual moveset representation I could see the argument of him needing it more but gameplay wise it's not as urgent. Also knowing modern design philosophies he'd likely become way more annoying since the design team clearly didn't know what they were doing for like half or more of the newcomers since brawl. Absolutely no consideration for how fun characters are to play against.
Marss Farms Vars
that's bars
Sephiroth should be heavier, and have a bit less end lag. Maybe an out of shield also: up tilt.
Kirby needs more copy abilities for his normal attacks, not just kicking for 90% of them. Have his forward tilt be a sword slash for example.
Give him the mega man treatment, where almost every attack is pulled from some legacy game ability
I don't exactly disagree with the notion of these characters needing changes, but holy FUCK the proposed changes his puts out are... 💀 genuinely some of the worst suggestions I've ever heard. Yeah sure, give Kirby an awkward looking minecart tier burst option, it's not like he has an entire fighting game roster's worth of other copy abilities that would make for more interesting and sensible special moves. Make Sonic's side B a move that keeps him in place and sends people upwards. Also make it from Heroes, the game that most people don't think fondly of these days instead of something from Frontiers.
I genuinely do like his content but this shit is baaaaaad dude.
Spitting with Luigi tho.
That sonic heroes bit is so arbitrary, so what if it's a game that most don't think about: it's source material. And a more distinct place to pull material from at that.
@mildlyinvested2992 That's a fair enough point, even when writing that I knew I was showing bias. The better point to make is I don't feel like a move with properties like that fits the "side B" material since he insists on keeping the down special Spindash (Which I do agree with), and that I just feel there's more interesting and fitting moves to fill that slot. If you were to get rid of the down B spin charge for it, it would make a lot more sense in that slot, but I also feel the down B charge is a much more "iconic" use of the Spin Dash so it needs to stay.
Point being a mostly stationary tornado move would not be a fitting spot for a side special.
3:16 you said it man, best Zelda
Min min can be changed so her arms either have a hurtboxes or you can disable temporarily them by damaging them enough like in the game.
Sephiroth should never ever lose wing off-stage or in the air. He would need to touch the ground first, no matter what.
That's actually a low-key genius suggestion. I know it's not much, but I think that'd actually mean a lot as a quality-of-life change. Kudos. 😗👌
I adore the music titles being edited in thank you editor 🙏
I don't know why he thinks Sephiroth is badly designed. A character with massive strengths SHOULD have massive flaws. Did the rest of the DLC characters being poorly designed cause him to think an actually balanced DLC character is badly designed?
Sephiroth is easily one of the strongest characters in the whole DLC roster from a pure design standpoint. His kit has clear strengths and weaknesses that lead to very unique play (The closest comparison is probably Ridley, but the two feel very different)... and most importantly, he's fun to use! I don't have a strong connection to FF7 and didn't care much about him going in, but he just feels cool. He's not particularly fast, but those huge hitboxes can strike fear into the hearts of opponents! There are lots of ways he could be fine-tuned if a theoretical balance patch occurred, but the kit itself feels solid to me.
Meanwhile, I appreciate that they swung for the fences on some of the other DLC characters, but most of them land in such polarized gimmick territory (Min-Min, Steve, Kazuya, Hero, Plant my beloved) that they would need to be reworked from the ground up to stick around in the next entry, and are probably better off not coming back at all.
Here's a comment just for the algorithm since now I don't have to ask what song is playing in the intro. Loving the ost callouts
Ganondorf's HDR moveset is actually kinda good in a not broken way. Similar to HDR but with a decent combo up tilt (he shoves the hilt of his sword upwards), no cape, and f-tilt can be angled
i dont mean to be harsh but the reviewed video is honestly kinda garbage, all of the aforementioned characters COULD use reworks, sure, but it feels like he chose specific characters he just dislikes and what he dislikes about them and what might make it more enjoyable for him rather than what would help these characters fit into the game more cohesively with the rest of the cast
Marss saying he hat he would do a collab but refusing to like or subscribe at the end is a story in it of itself
I think what a lot of people miss is that these characters are, first and foremost, archetypes in a fighting game. They exist to fit a playstyle that has a target audience + obvious strengths and weaknesses. When you start going all fanfic with these reworked movesets you either need to adhere to their current archetype or change their archetype entirely. It's why ROB is such a poorly designed character - he's archetypeless, he has the tools to win at every range playing at every speed.
HDR dk is like this. They took dk's existing archetype, one that excels when they make it in with fast + strong attacks and great shield pressure but struggles to make it in due to a lack of antizoning and having a massive body, and gave him an annoying ass barrel projectile that he can chuck around and hit like wii fit's football. Now dk is a square hole character like ROB.
I fully agree but I will say ganon is indeed a warlock and his moveset and archetype was almost fully replaced with incin.
11:09 Pillars of the Underworld isn't from Guilty Gear XX Accent Core +R, it's from the Korean version of Guilty Gear XX #Reload
Not necessarily characters but mechanics that I think got to go are no more action out of up special. Everybody has to commit when they want to recover, but Sonic and G&W, it's obnoxious that they have up-B and then continue to do whatever they want where nobody else can.
Also, no more free items. I'm sorry Rob, Diddy and Peach mains, but I hate that you just get unlimited free item use at no cost. It's annoying and I don't like it and if it were my decision, I'd have it deleted in the next game
Seph should totally be heavier and not lose wing. Maybe make nair a good oos option, but the rest is fine. I think he's super interesting because wing is so broken, yet his kit is undertuned - that's literally what Lucario was always supposed to be like and I love that. Character is cool, just needs some more consistency to be more viable competitively
I've always been down for kirby side B to also be inhale.
And either inhale can copy.
When you copy you take the neutral and side B.
(Both copy moves are a tiny bit weaker that the original)
Anyone else?
Everything else just works, he's not busted, fun to play as and fun to play against currently. But that little tweak would be even more fun
ffxiii music? in MY marss video?? editor i adore you
What i learned making moveset and balancing mods is that not all, but a large amount of 'fixes' are leftover spite from top tiers, and when you give yourself a few days after having ideas for changes they seem absolutely broken.
When you introduce extra broken gimmicks for your fav characters you always test playing vs them as an opponent. You will know what feels like bullcrap.
I think it would be sick if Kirby copied ALL specials of the opponent he inhaled - could you imagine Kirby forward throw into shoryuken or Kirby using flip kick for recovery it’d be awesome
I'd honestly like to see them remove a lot of the comeback mechanics like Wing, GO, Limit, etc. Either that or give all characters some sort of meter/comeback mechanic
Bro is attracted to sephiroth
For good reason
at the end your audio was ahead of your video slightly
Some characters are casual characters and don't really need to be better, it is more important how enjoyable to play with or against and how thematic they are
Marss and vars collab?? Hell yeah
Sonic is super impatient, surely we can just make it so that if no damage is done for a while he starts controlling funny or something, giving incentive to try camp the sonic, giving him a use for his speed
the LEAST they can do is rework atleast ONE of the samus's. They don't even got to delete the base kit if they don't want. why do we got TWO samus that haven't changed ever
Gravity rush music makes me happy
Mac should be able to charge is KO punch like cloud charges his limit.
Ganon having the triforce of power is misinterpreted “power” in this instance doesn’t mean strength it means unnatural magic like power.
This should be obvious him being the gerudo king he is probably quite skilled and his size is also quite exceptional for a race that it’s already exceptionally tall,the “power” he covets is beyond that of strength cause he knows strength alone won’t win him conquest over hyrule
8:24 He’s clearly a Kirby fan😂
ganon teleport looked like lucy loud side special if the time of the move is slowed it wouldnt be too bad
Top 5 characters that need a reworked moveset. Ganon,Zelda, Link, Tink,and Yink. None of them ever have never had accurate movesets to there games
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me and my sibling have put over 20k matches in on doubles, and my conclusion is that over half of these characters are literally unplayable, in-that they just lose one-dimensionally to a bunch of other characters. doc gets stuffed by heros, ganondorfs, incineroars, byleths, not worth touching the character. mewtwos body is too long and all of the generous hurtboxes make him die to most heavies. the only solution is to play to overtuned DLC and mii characters, or abuse the heck out of wifi characters like krool or ike. I have good stats with my main kirby but games take way too long trying to pin down your opponents because EVERYONE has gotten good at wiggling out of punishes. you gotta punish things noone punishes to win, and some characters just dont have the kit in 2024 to be able to do it.
Love the Gravity Rush music ❤
petition to make little mac just like iron fist in Marvel Rivals
sonic and knuckles had the water ball, thunder ball and fire ball with different powers. Why not add those as up B, down B and side B ?
I hate when people talk about changing Sephiroth because they forget that wing last as long as he has his stock. Sephiroth with the weight of Cloud becomes a top 5 character but he starts three jumping like Sheik and refuses to play neutral until you have some orbs lol
Sephiroth is high tier without wing and then top 10 with it.
Him being that light is needed because he just doesn't get hit since his range makes his moves so safe
wing does not last as long as he has his stock what
@@Sogudu wing lasts until around 10-20 seconds after the opponent loses their stock
Vars was clearly picking characters from some predefined catagories:
some personal shit (sehiroth), a ToD character (luigi), a community fan hated character (sonic), the lowest tier list (gannon), and a under utalised character (kirby).
All in an effort to appeal to some but not all.
Ganondorf and Sonic ansolutely need total reworks, but for diffeent reasons. Ganondorf is the main villain from one of Nintendo's core franchises, its frankly embarassing that hes remained a worse Captain Falcon for this long. He has a lot to pull from the games, making him more weapon based or magic based or even a combo of the two.
Sonic is one of the most toxic characters and even competitive aside, dude deserves better considering his moveset was rushed to make it on time for Brawl. That excuse doesnt fly anymore, he doesnt need so many moves that turn him into a ball. Im not a Sonic fan but considering his history they can pull from fo much, and it would help the competitive health of the game too because everyone hates Sonic camping and timing people out. Seriously, I dont even watch videos with Sonic anymore.
Kirby is a weird one tho? Im not a Kirby fan but i think hes mostly fine? Like yeah maybe get rid of side b for something from his newer games but everything anout him feels pretty well done for the most part.
Sephiroth is mostly fine, just fix his wing and his weight. I honestly do agree hes overly balanced, i get that they had to make his sword moves slow considering how huge they are but they kinda overdid it making his hitboxes have a bunch of weird sourspots. And considering he's one of the tallest characters it also really hurts him to be that light and frankly doesnt make any sense. He should at least be like Cloud. The only other thing is his wing, honestly as soon as he gets it he should just keep it, or at least only lose it after he's KO'd like Terry's go. The fact its percentage based is honestly really stupid and makes it poorly implemented.
And yeah I agree on Samus, always gated how Smash makes her super slow since its not reoresentative of the games at all, snd shes had the same Super Metrood moveset since 64 despite changing designs. I really hope they update her design from the awful Other M suit to Dread and give her a new moveset that doesnt make her feel super slow
we arent getting ultimate HD, but i tihnk the next smash will be similar to ult bc i think theyll wanna use ultimate as a base for the next game, because that way makes it alot easier to not have to remove a bunch of characters
so no engine changes bub have fun with fountain of dreams still being banned because of ice climbers
i dont think theyll be thattttt many new characters, but my copium is hoping for an actual story mode. i pray everyday that sakurai stops having a temper tantrum over people uploading sub space clips to youtube
@@Keeby. BRING BACK SUBSPACE EMMISARY
He wants kirby to be steve
Sora not being mentioned is a crime because the massacre him in this game bc they were scared of making him good 😭
if ganon didnt suck ass he wouldnt be cool at all he would just be mad annoying
rework him to make him more like ganon but i dont like the idea that charaters need to be balanced, some of them being garbo is fine, especially in a game like smash where they have to balance for casuals and comp players at the same time
Samus. For being so badass in her games, she has no sauce.
They need to fix Luigi’s Cyclone because they nerf him bad enough to make him more exploitative to his recovery!
They need to give Luigi Cyclone the Mario Tornado treatment
ngl id be pretty happy with an ultimate update
i dont think the game could or should look that different from how it is now, the only thing that really needs work is gameplay and expanding the roster
Not gonna lie, ZSS down B spike needs to be more consistent. I've seen Marss lose multiple matches because of that janky bs, and it's so not snazzy.
Lucario the fuckin chancer
would love to see a collab, ngl
MAKE LUIGI SLIPPERY AGAIN
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Umm, actually, last update was last year 🤓
i think for kirby they should just change his smash attacks, rn theyre boring ass kicks, pretty satisfying to hit, but still theyd be cooler if they referenced copy abilities from kirby games
also please just buff his air and ground speed slightly, not alot so hes not busted but just enough so hes not so awful to play against any character with range
Let’s go the last 2 smash videos were reactions going for the 1:1 ratio we love lazy reactions
Someone needs to free this man. Get him a W2 or something. Who knows what might happen if the next smash is as good as the gum you find under diner tables.
Honestly, the newer content makes me recognize how much Chippy helped him out. It was the same stuff, but it was predictable and entertaining. Not unlike a good sitcom.
Ganon is perfect shut up I like my 80%Ganon combos
Marss you’re my hero ❤❤❤
This guys voice is so boring it makes me sleepy
The fact Steve wasnt mentioned is actually criminal
Yea but thats a given, im sure he put out obscure characters to stir up some debate
Steve doesn't need a full rework, just some number changes
@@blocks4857 Easiest fix I've always thought was no staling from hitting blocks, and every tier of weapons should have the damage and knockback of the previous one(iron being cobble damage, cobble being wood, and wood being almost equal to fist).
Meta Knight needs a rework 100%, most boring gameplan aka fishing for dash or grag and try to ladder the whole game. People just forget him cause hes neither trash nor good
Nah I think Meta Knight is simply about the numbers. He was very interesting in Brawl, but broken unfortunately, and then they nerfed him too hard after that. He could be a really cool aerial fighter if given the right momentum
He was more boring in Smash 4. He has more interesting stuff in Ult. He isnt just ladders he still has insane edgegurding and he wins a lot of meta relevant MUs like Min Min and Palu
Mário deserves an update
In my opinion, I think Mario’s fine the way he is. I don’t think he needs to be changed given his stand point along with his combos.
Kirby is already pretty degenerate i don't think he needs to be any better
because they stopped making patches for the game.
do i get a prize?
wait vars reaction??????????? say no more
Zelda badly needs a rework as well.
Thinking Kazuya 0TDs are harder than Luigi’s is a little insane
@@Remmyrouser They are WAY harder than Luigi's
Luigi's has basically no difference, Kazuyas needs perfect execution and tracking opponent di and sdi, and a very good understanding of the weight of the opponent so that nair doesn't send into tumble.
@@yukimori7762Kazuyas 0-d are really easy to perform. There is literally a blue line that shows where the opponent is DI ing. Also SDI doesn’t work against kazuyas but affects Luigi 0-d so much more.
@@Piggles64099 other way around, sdi Luigi combos does barely anything.
Also I wasn't saying Kaz combos are hard, just harder than Luigi's.
Luigi's are the easiest in the entirety of ult
@@yukimori7762 I ain't even gonna try to argue with you because its not worth my time. Clearly we don't play the same game.
@@Piggles64099 both combos are easy, it's just that Kazuya's takes tech skill to do, Luigi's takes no skill
I lowkey think bayo could use a rework
Marss has been wearing my hat for a few years now. He wont return my hat :( its a nice hat
Day 59 of asking marss to cosplay zss
No Marth? He is completely butchered in ultimate how can he miss him.
All I want is for adullt link to be revamped just PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE
Why the Luigi hate lmao, he’s perfectly balanced. Good combo game and grab but the 3rd worst disadvantage in the game. There’s a reason there’s only 2 notable Luigi’s ever.
Stone is underrated? Mary Jane too cheap these days…
hE wAs fIxEd
Rework Zelda. She’s so unfun to play
Please just fix Ganon
Make this the most liked comment cuz it’s funny
Funni
OH YEAH
Yeah, I’m in.
Disliked because its not funny
I was promised funny, and I found no funny.
epic
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Fix lucario wtf
Lucas zair is better 😎
Yeeeaah. I checked out on this one when he said he doesn't know Ganon from the games and that he wants air ride for Kirby.....I am not even certain Ganondorf has punched anything in a Zelda game. He has either had a sword, or blasted something with magic.
Kirby should have elemental buffs to moves depending on who he eats so if he ate mario he would get fire ball flame sword up b magic hammer side b and water stone down b
No steve mentioned is crazy
I know why, because he’s not going to be added in the next game. He just needs to be removed completely lmao
not only do i agree with ganon needing a rework moveset wise, but can we PLEASE get an updated model..
I'd probably say Steve, Ness, Kirby, Lucario, and DK (DK a little bit, but not to much, he's still gotta be the goofy fun character)
Steve is definitely not going to be in the next smash game. Nobody wants him to be in the future Smash 6 game.
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