We were on the road last year for 12 1/2 weeks in our Scope 18M (similar to the Rize). It worked very well - plenty of room. When you reach capacity, you simply stop loading things. It is all about priorities. I wouldn’t want anything longer than our 18 ft. We can go and park anywhere. Thanks for showcasing the unit.
Wow, now that must have been an awesome trip. Dan loves being able to park anywhere and relax & enjoy the drive. He loves the smaller Class B's, but Rose really wants more space. In our case compromise is key. Glad to hear you are happy with the van. Thanks for the vote of confidence. Happy Travels
We totally agree. If there is one think we like best about the class B vans, it's the innovative solutions they come up with for using the very limited space. Thanks for the comment.
We're glad you like our walkthroughs. With many of these RV's it is the first time we're seeing them so we feel it's important to share the specs since we may not have them at the time of filming. We like to keep our reactions genuine. Thanks for your support.
I've watched a LOT of Class B videos, ideally for a van life lifestyle. Doubt I'll ever be able to do it, but it's a nice thought. I do have a couple of questions: (1) I'm 6'4" tall so most Class Bs seem to be way too short and cramped - for me, anyway. Do these RV shows have the taller ones, like the Noovo? Or are there Class Bs at these shows that have taller ceilings? (2) Do these Class Bs generally allow for upgrading the suspension and adding larger off-road tires? Not considering offroading in one of these, LOL...just going off the beaten track, so to speak, on unpaved roads. Thanks! Subscribed and liked!
Class B's are definitely a challenge for the taller RVers. We haven't seen the Noovo at the show, and although some of the B's have higher clearance than others they are limited by the chassis type. There are surely after-market tires and suspensions available for most of the chassis, but to be honest, we we able to go down some pretty rough roads in our Patriot. Aside from beefier tires, it was on a stock suspension. We included some footage of this in last years "Natural Bridges National Park" video. You can check out our Catwalks, New Mexico video to see how it did at crossing streams. You might have some luck with the Condor, Ekko or Granite Ridge. They are small B-Plus/C's that are outfitted for more off-road conditions and they aren't much bigger than some of the Class B's out there. Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/hMqv0up0PuQ/видео.html Hope this helps.
I wondered how tall you are because your head looked really close to the ceiling. Thanks for zooming through many RVs and not opening every single cupboard. Well done.
With the sneakers on I'm actually closer to 6'1" bringing me just to the ceiling of that Rize. It's funny you mention the cupboards, because we used to watch reviews where they went into every nook and cranny, and it got a bit tedious sometimes. We try to cover enough of the unit to spark interest from folks who are interested in what they see. Then they can pursue an in-depth observation at a local dealer. Thanks for the vote of confidence.
The problem that i've seen is that the majority of class B's has is the lack of outside compartments for storage. I have seen European counterparts with a lot more storage inside and outside, and way, way more cheaper than their American counterparts.
Yeah, we certainly have to prioritize carefully when packing for our trips. We really didn’t want to have to add a hitch-mounted storage box on the rear, but it is an option.
like the grech but to pricey. love the leisure vans, especially the garage one, but can't afford it. Due to the homeowners insurance no telling how much they're going to go up to where we can no longer afford which would mean dropping it, and any mortgage on your home you are screwed.,otherwise, I would buy one.
We are with you on this. We used to equate price with size, and couldn't understand why it seemed the smaller models were so expensive. Now that we have done some research, we see that the manufacturing process and cost can vary widely between Class C and Class B RV's. Check out our latest video on inexpensive Class C's where we find a nicely built small Class C for $69,995. Also, travel trailers are a very inexpensive way to experience the RV lifestyle. Thanks for the comment.
Yes, sometimes it's a bit challenging working in the tight spaces in the small Class B's. We are hoping to come across some Grech's at the next show so we can do a better job of showing how beautiful those vans really are. Thanks for the constructive criticism, we are always looking to improve our vids.
We posted this response on another video, but we feel this reply should be here as well: There has been quite a bit of discussion of this in the comments. We think most people understand the Class B Plus designation was added as a subset of the Class C designation by the manufacturers or dealers. It's also becoming clear that insurance companies and web sites like RVUSA don't recognize the B Plus category. Having said that, we are thinking that perhaps they should consider adding a category for a Class B/Class C hybrid to avoid confusion. I mean when you have a boxy Class C like the Thor Freedom Elite 22HEF at $69,995 and the Pleasure Way Plateau XLTS which is about the same length with a much different body at over $200,000 in the same category it might cause some difficulties when trying to search for one type or another. If it is really all about making the buying process easier for the consumer it seems this would make sense. We ask everyone to add their thoughts on this in the comments. Thanks.
We were on the road last year for 12 1/2 weeks in our Scope 18M (similar to the Rize). It worked very well - plenty of room. When you reach capacity, you simply stop loading things. It is all about priorities. I wouldn’t want anything longer than our 18 ft. We can go and park anywhere. Thanks for showcasing the unit.
Wow, now that must have been an awesome trip. Dan loves being able to park anywhere and relax & enjoy the drive. He loves the smaller Class B's, but Rose really wants more space. In our case compromise is key. Glad to hear you are happy with the van. Thanks for the vote of confidence. Happy Travels
The vans were simply awesome. Excellent use of space also.
We totally agree. If there is one think we like best about the class B vans, it's the innovative solutions they come up with for using the very limited space. Thanks for the comment.
I'm new to your channel and am enjoying all the B/B+/C tours. Thank you both for taking the time to include the specs and MSRP. 👍
We're glad you like our walkthroughs. With many of these RV's it is the first time we're seeing them so we feel it's important to share the specs since we may not have them at the time of filming. We like to keep our reactions genuine. Thanks for your support.
I've watched a LOT of Class B videos, ideally for a van life lifestyle. Doubt I'll ever be able to do it, but it's a nice thought. I do have a couple of questions:
(1) I'm 6'4" tall so most Class Bs seem to be way too short and cramped - for me, anyway. Do these RV shows have the taller ones, like the Noovo? Or are there Class Bs at these shows that have taller ceilings?
(2) Do these Class Bs generally allow for upgrading the suspension and adding larger off-road tires? Not considering offroading in one of these, LOL...just going off the beaten track, so to speak, on unpaved roads.
Thanks! Subscribed and liked!
Class B's are definitely a challenge for the taller RVers. We haven't seen the Noovo at the show, and although some of the B's have higher clearance than others they are limited by the chassis type.
There are surely after-market tires and suspensions available for most of the chassis, but to be honest, we we able to go down some pretty rough roads in our Patriot. Aside from beefier tires, it was on a stock suspension. We included some footage of this in last years "Natural Bridges National Park" video. You can check out our Catwalks, New Mexico video to see how it did at crossing streams.
You might have some luck with the Condor, Ekko or Granite Ridge. They are small B-Plus/C's that are outfitted for more off-road conditions and they aren't much bigger than some of the Class B's out there. Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/hMqv0up0PuQ/видео.html
Hope this helps.
I wondered how tall you are because your head looked really close to the ceiling. Thanks for zooming through many RVs and not opening every single cupboard. Well done.
With the sneakers on I'm actually closer to 6'1" bringing me just to the ceiling of that Rize. It's funny you mention the cupboards, because we used to watch reviews where they went into every nook and cranny, and it got a bit tedious sometimes. We try to cover enough of the unit to spark interest from folks who are interested in what they see. Then they can pursue an in-depth observation at a local dealer. Thanks for the vote of confidence.
The Grech 24 foot is very similar to our Airstream 24 foot chassis and coach.
Yes, we agree that the quality seems to be on par as well. We really love the Interstate too.
The problem that i've seen is that the majority of class B's has is the lack of outside compartments for storage.
I have seen European counterparts with a lot more storage inside and outside, and way, way more cheaper than their American counterparts.
Yeah, we certainly have to prioritize carefully when packing for our trips. We really didn’t want to have to add a hitch-mounted storage box on the rear, but it is an option.
Price
They do seem to be going up don't they?
like the grech but to pricey. love the leisure vans, especially the garage one, but can't afford it. Due to the homeowners insurance no telling how much they're going to go up to where we can no longer afford which would mean dropping it, and any mortgage on your home you are screwed.,otherwise, I would buy one.
We are with you on this. We used to equate price with size, and couldn't understand why it seemed the smaller models were so expensive. Now that we have done some research, we see that the manufacturing process and cost can vary widely between Class C and Class B RV's. Check out our latest video on inexpensive Class C's where we find a nicely built small Class C for $69,995. Also, travel trailers are a very inexpensive way to experience the RV lifestyle. Thanks for the comment.
The camera person did a poor job on photographing the Gretch. I couldn’t make it out…
Yes, sometimes it's a bit challenging working in the tight spaces in the small Class B's. We are hoping to come across some Grech's at the next show so we can do a better job of showing how beautiful those vans really are. Thanks for the constructive criticism, we are always looking to improve our vids.
Nope. Lost me at promaster
Ha ha! Well, they had to find some way to keep them "affordable." A Ford or Mercedes chassis is going to cost more. Thanks for the laugh.
There is no such thing as a B Plus!!
We posted this response on another video, but we feel this reply should be here as well:
There has been quite a bit of discussion of this in the comments. We think most people understand the Class B Plus designation was added as a subset of the Class C designation by the manufacturers or dealers. It's also becoming clear that insurance companies and web sites like RVUSA don't recognize the B Plus category. Having said that, we are thinking that perhaps they should consider adding a category for a Class B/Class C hybrid to avoid confusion. I mean when you have a boxy Class C like the Thor Freedom Elite 22HEF at $69,995 and the Pleasure Way Plateau XLTS which is about the same length with a much different body at over $200,000 in the same category it might cause some difficulties when trying to search for one type or another. If it is really all about making the buying process easier for the consumer it seems this would make sense. We ask everyone to add their thoughts on this in the comments. Thanks.