As someone from Chicago I also love how Anish Kapoor is reportedly VERY bothered by people calling the Chicago Bean "The Chicago Bean" and not the name he gave it, "The Cloudgate". And so for that very reason I always refer to it as "The Bean" with pride lol
Ohhh I didn’t realize we were talking about the bean guy!!!! You’d think he’d be happy people at least talk about his sculpture outside of Chicago…but nope. Has to get huffy over the name😂. What a…*insert insult of your choice*
As another Chicagoan, I feel the exact same way XD we don't care what the official name is, the bean is the bean and the sears tower is the sears tower
@@kay-kay6483 Was literally about to say the same thing. We’re still calling the Sears Tower the Sears Tower. Obviously we’re still going to call it the Bean. But it bothering the color hoarder makes me want to call it that even more 😂
She missed the added drama behind the glitter. Its made from glass so that the other artist can't stick his middle finger in it again, like he did the pink. Unless he wants a tons of cuts.
I came to the comments just to say that but you beat me to it! I first became aware of all this drama last year because I moved to Illinois and Kapoor is the guy who designed the famous Chicago "bean." There was a whole back-and-forth of joke events on Facebook of people saying we should paint the bean in pinkest pink just to annoy Kapoor.
@@KelsieJG__they-them yup. I'm from Illinois and there were tons of different events about the bean. Which is also funny because Kapoor apparently haaates that people refer to it as the bean as well.
@@muran3371 But it is so obviously a bean, if he wanted clouds and a gate then he should have asked the Carebear animators for advise or any 9 year old child for that matter
@@annak8755 100% until I found out about the whole artist drama on a thread I didn't even know it had a different name then the bean haha. So many different ways he could have changed it to make it not look like a bean.
Art history student here and I'm just going to put this out there - if your concepts, viewpoints, and ideas are good enough, then you don't need to horde one type of material in order to make your best work. Plenty of artists had access to oil paints in the 15th century, but not all of those artists ended up being as revered as Leonardo da Vinci, ya know what I mean?
Agreed completely. If your whole contribution to and relevance within art relies on you getting exclusive rights to something SOMEONE ELSE INVENTED, what are you actually contributing???
But isn't it because his whole idea was so easy to replicate, because everyone can paint things black (and perhaps people could do even more creative things than just blacking out an object) that he needed to have monopoly on the material.
@@maryjaneberrys if you’re the only one who has access to a material that nobody else can use you’re not contributing accessibility, you’re taking it away. Kapoor is contributing to an overall access issue in the art world that comes from monetizing and restricting more and more art supplies. Another example of this is that you need to pay Pantone a monthly fee to use their colors now - something Stuart Semple has also called out and corrected by releasing his own free color package for download.
It's worth noting - Vantablack is an extremely delicate, expensive, and difficult to work with material. It was invented for scientific purposes, like coatings for telescopes; it's not like a pigment you could just paint onto something with a brush. Even without Kapoor, it'd be _very_ difficult for any given artist to get their hands on it, let alone use it. Not defending the man, what he did is still really stupid. But... you know. It's worth knowing.
The Dimond dust was made as a clap back to the middle finger in the pinkest pink. If you put your finger in it you will get multiple little cuts in your skin. It’s as if Semple is telling Kapoor “okay you got the pink now try sticking your finger in this”
I think a major factor contributing to this is that Anish Kapoor has a lot of classist under/overtones in his art, and it played a role in his use of vantablack. He valued it for its inaccessibility to poorer artists, and it’s not like he made the pigment himself - he was just the first to use it in art, which can be attributed to the budget he had to make art. Classism is an overarching theme of a big part of the mainstream fancy art world that people tend not to discuss.
it would be a completely different thing to me if he had INVENTED it rather than just transcribed it to art, and then held a copyright over it. like at least then its his actual intellectual property that hes saying others could use. but just saying "only I can use this in ART" when art itself shouldnt really have limits on materials or accessibility..yeah so much classism
to be fair it was a government regulated unsafe material that he was using. hes the only one who was permitted to use it for this purpose- under supervision. I dont think its all that bad that an unsafe material was gatekept. or well i mean, i cant wait for the uranium art to get a resurgence!
In the end the whole Vanta black debacle lead to competitors making safer, easier to use and more accessible versions, not everyone has a airbrush to apply Vanta black, and because it was a new process and a patent was probably filled for industrial use and manufacturing it was going to be crazy expensive any way. Wasn't there for the stream, did they end up painting a backdrop with the black and testing the light reflection for photography?
As a Chicagoan artist I’m 100% over Anish Kapoor. I also have a shirt from Stuart Semple that is just a disclaimer that says I’m not Anish Kapoor. The pettiness is 😘👌✨
If you want a background that doesnt reflect light, use a velvet black background, that will absorbe the light and only let your nails shine through more in comparison. - From a Fellow Photographer
Legally speaking, he would only have exclusive use of vanta black if he invented and breveted said pigment. And even so, that would be debatable. But, since he is not the inventor of the color, he should have no exclusive rights over the pigment
I sware by my bottle of Black 3.0 it’s amazing paint and his ‘Glowiest glow’ pigments are brilliant, but Stuart Semple has built his whole company on this controversy, he sells ‘the Goldest gold’ etc and it’s a good gold paint but no better than the far cheaper tubes 🤷♀️ He’s found his niche I suppose and good for him, but claiming the ‘greenest green’ seems silly because by what metric do you value ‘green’? Though he did start a series of paints based on brands patented colours like Tiffany blue and that gave me a chuckle 😂
my first thought: is it supposed to mean its that TRUE color? like pinkest pink, is it the truest pink pigment possible without leaning too far light/dark/red etc...but then how do you even measure because we all perceive color differently and unless youre going by like...light wavelength values?! yeah if your whole brand is based off people knowing other brands or comparing to them. Its a marketing tactic and probably not the best product.
You missed that Stuart calls Anish ..bean boy lol and no as it's not made by the same process copyright does not apply. Also a baddy is a Villain .. and yes glass glitter is safe lol. As to the Japanese paint lots of artists were claiming health issues after using it and other issues and so asked Stuart for his opinion.
Can't speak for the other colors, but it is actually possible to determine which one is the blackest black based on how much light it absorbs. Would love to see someone test all these different black pigments in a lab!
I've studied art & design, and from my standpoint the front of this video was really frustrating to watch. I understand Cristine isn't a member of the art arena. Anish is a pretty awful human and classic art has a long history of only letting certain people be successful with art for a lot of variables (white men, classically trained, very specific style, paid for by the churches, etc.) Plus, I believe at least for VantaBlack and 3.0 they were 3rd party tested for their light absorbency.
It would be really interesting to know if the Musou black is safe for you to use as a background, and if it makes a big difference for photos and recording!
i remember someone in TV show reacting to pinkest pink - and they told that viewers watching it through TV or notebooks and stuff wont actually see what people in studio see - the pigmenst is so pink, that screens just arent able to reproduce that
competition is good for innovation so i can’t be mad at stuart for allat even though it is dramatic. i Can be mad at anish kapoor cuz he stinky and its also funny artist beef
Oh my gosh the commentary that came from the art community from this it was amazing! I’d have to double check, but I believe SuperRaeDizzle has at least 1 on this.
Apparently I'm an artist because I had massive *feelings* over the musou black literally right before she recognized why artists might have a hard on for this kind of thing. Damn. Feelin' a little special.
The whole blackest black fight is hysterical. Stuart Semple even tried to get Chicagoans to go paint the Bean (by Anush Kapur) Pinkest Pink.i hope they did.
Cristine, if you are using a pff2 mask , the white one, it would not be enough for a toxic gas reaction... although I do use it in the lab for safety purposes when I don't know exactly what is going to happen, it will just be a mechanic obstacle to larger particles! Science queen safety first!
Christine should just use the paint to make her own black backdrop for product shots with how black that paint is. I mean you couldn't even see brush strokes in it at all.
As far as I'm concerned the issue is with a single artist essentially preventing other people making certain works of art. If you ban people from using a particular material you ban them from making anything that requires that material. I (and many other creative types) argue that it is totally unethical to stop people creating in this way. One artist inhibiting another artist is bad enough, but this was an attempt to prevent the entire art world exploring this new material. That puts a restriction on progress and exploration that is bad for everyone.
Banana redacted would be a fun Holo Taco April Fool's joke....Hear me out: Sell One Coat Black under a new name Banana-hacks Redacted and it could be in a bundle with Banana-hacks 🤔
I love these stream highlight videos so much. I don't really enjoy streams for a variety of personal reasons, but these highlights feel like old simply videos, but modernized. It's Simply now, with old Simply editing, and I love it.
For context (also, im from Australia, but we have a bunch of crossover words with the UK) a 'baddie' is like a juvenile way of referring to a 'bad guy' (hence the name) or a villain~
I would think that using a famous artists name on your website would lead to a big lawsuit, but both of them sound so annoying, like you’re going back n forth about pigment…
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As someone from Chicago I also love how Anish Kapoor is reportedly VERY bothered by people calling the Chicago Bean "The Chicago Bean" and not the name he gave it, "The Cloudgate". And so for that very reason I always refer to it as "The Bean" with pride lol
Ohhh I didn’t realize we were talking about the bean guy!!!! You’d think he’d be happy people at least talk about his sculpture outside of Chicago…but nope. Has to get huffy over the name😂. What a…*insert insult of your choice*
He's a pompous prat! 🤦🏼♀️😂
As another Chicagoan, I feel the exact same way XD we don't care what the official name is, the bean is the bean and the sears tower is the sears tower
@@kay-kay6483 Was literally about to say the same thing. We’re still calling the Sears Tower the Sears Tower. Obviously we’re still going to call it the Bean. But it bothering the color hoarder makes me want to call it that even more 😂
expect ppl to call it a bean when it’s literally the shape of a bean
She missed the added drama behind the glitter. Its made from glass so that the other artist can't stick his middle finger in it again, like he did the pink. Unless he wants a tons of cuts.
I came to the comments just to say that but you beat me to it! I first became aware of all this drama last year because I moved to Illinois and Kapoor is the guy who designed the famous Chicago "bean." There was a whole back-and-forth of joke events on Facebook of people saying we should paint the bean in pinkest pink just to annoy Kapoor.
@@KelsieJG__they-them yup. I'm from Illinois and there were tons of different events about the bean. Which is also funny because Kapoor apparently haaates that people refer to it as the bean as well.
This drama never ends 👁️
@@muran3371 But it is so obviously a bean, if he wanted clouds and a gate then he should have asked the Carebear animators for advise or any 9 year old child for that matter
@@annak8755 100% until I found out about the whole artist drama on a thread I didn't even know it had a different name then the bean haha. So many different ways he could have changed it to make it not look like a bean.
Art history student here and I'm just going to put this out there - if your concepts, viewpoints, and ideas are good enough, then you don't need to horde one type of material in order to make your best work. Plenty of artists had access to oil paints in the 15th century, but not all of those artists ended up being as revered as Leonardo da Vinci, ya know what I mean?
Agreed completely. If your whole contribution to and relevance within art relies on you getting exclusive rights to something SOMEONE ELSE INVENTED, what are you actually contributing???
@@laurelloaf accessibility
But isn't it because his whole idea was so easy to replicate, because everyone can paint things black (and perhaps people could do even more creative things than just blacking out an object) that he needed to have monopoly on the material.
@@maryjaneberrys if you’re the only one who has access to a material that nobody else can use you’re not contributing accessibility, you’re taking it away. Kapoor is contributing to an overall access issue in the art world that comes from monetizing and restricting more and more art supplies. Another example of this is that you need to pay Pantone a monthly fee to use their colors now - something Stuart Semple has also called out and corrected by releasing his own free color package for download.
It's worth noting - Vantablack is an extremely delicate, expensive, and difficult to work with material. It was invented for scientific purposes, like coatings for telescopes; it's not like a pigment you could just paint onto something with a brush. Even without Kapoor, it'd be _very_ difficult for any given artist to get their hands on it, let alone use it.
Not defending the man, what he did is still really stupid. But... you know. It's worth knowing.
The Dimond dust was made as a clap back to the middle finger in the pinkest pink. If you put your finger in it you will get multiple little cuts in your skin. It’s as if Semple is telling Kapoor “okay you got the pink now try sticking your finger in this”
I think a major factor contributing to this is that Anish Kapoor has a lot of classist under/overtones in his art, and it played a role in his use of vantablack. He valued it for its inaccessibility to poorer artists, and it’s not like he made the pigment himself - he was just the first to use it in art, which can be attributed to the budget he had to make art. Classism is an overarching theme of a big part of the mainstream fancy art world that people tend not to discuss.
Interesting. Like buying all the insulin in the world and charging $500 a vial for it.
it would be a completely different thing to me if he had INVENTED it rather than just transcribed it to art, and then held a copyright over it. like at least then its his actual intellectual property that hes saying others could use. but just saying "only I can use this in ART" when art itself shouldnt really have limits on materials or accessibility..yeah so much classism
to be fair it was a government regulated unsafe material that he was using. hes the only one who was permitted to use it for this purpose- under supervision. I dont think its all that bad that an unsafe material was gatekept. or well i mean, i cant wait for the uranium art to get a resurgence!
This yeah. And Anish Kapoor is notorious for being an absolute jerk to people. So this is about way more than paint.
And Stuart Semple is the man that when pantone put colors behind a paywall he gave them for free. He is amazing
In the end the whole Vanta black debacle lead to competitors making safer, easier to use and more accessible versions, not everyone has a airbrush to apply Vanta black, and because it was a new process and a patent was probably filled for industrial use and manufacturing it was going to be crazy expensive any way. Wasn't there for the stream, did they end up painting a backdrop with the black and testing the light reflection for photography?
As a Chicagoan artist I’m 100% over Anish Kapoor. I also have a shirt from Stuart Semple that is just a disclaimer that says I’m not Anish Kapoor. The pettiness is 😘👌✨
If you want a background that doesnt reflect light, use a velvet black background, that will absorbe the light and only let your nails shine through more in comparison. - From a Fellow Photographer
Legally speaking, he would only have exclusive use of vanta black if he invented and breveted said pigment. And even so, that would be debatable. But, since he is not the inventor of the color, he should have no exclusive rights over the pigment
As far as I know, he made a contract with the manufacturers so that they would only sell to him, so he didn't need to have the copyright.
I am waiting for Cristine to develop the blackest black nail polish for Holo Taco.
she already has!! 😂
One coat black be like: Am I a clown to you 🤡
Have u heard of One-Coat Black😎
@@SimplyNotLogicalOMG ITS CRISTINE THE SCIENCE QUEEN
Yo! Thank you for wearing PPE and talking about possible dangers. I’m a resin artist and it drives me up the wall when I see others don’t use PPE!
I know some dont use ppe :/
I sware by my bottle of Black 3.0 it’s amazing paint and his ‘Glowiest glow’ pigments are brilliant, but Stuart Semple has built his whole company on this controversy, he sells ‘the Goldest gold’ etc and it’s a good gold paint but no better than the far cheaper tubes 🤷♀️ He’s found his niche I suppose and good for him, but claiming the ‘greenest green’ seems silly because by what metric do you value ‘green’? Though he did start a series of paints based on brands patented colours like Tiffany blue and that gave me a chuckle 😂
my first thought: is it supposed to mean its that TRUE color? like pinkest pink, is it the truest pink pigment possible without leaning too far light/dark/red etc...but then how do you even measure because we all perceive color differently and unless youre going by like...light wavelength values?! yeah if your whole brand is based off people knowing other brands or comparing to them. Its a marketing tactic and probably not the best product.
@@rainestar82exactly it’s too subjective, I’d recommend the blackest black and glow paint any day but the rest just isn’t worth the price
He just does it to forever spite Anish Kapoor lol. But Stuart also does other things like Freetone, and for that he has my absolute respect
He also made the pantone colors accessible for designers. He does a lot of good things in my opinion
If banana redacted doesn't come up as a future name of a holo taco nail polish I will lose all hope in this world
anish really took the gatekeep part of girlboss gaslight gatekeep seriously
I love these videos, I just don't have time to catch the whole live streams so I still feel part of the club😀
I'm the same way! And honestly I'm enjoying the livestream clips because you can tell Cristine - and the chat - are just having so much fun.
I've made multiple purchases and every time, he asks me if I am Anish 🤣🤣
You missed that Stuart calls Anish ..bean boy lol and no as it's not made by the same process copyright does not apply. Also a baddy is a Villain .. and yes glass glitter is safe lol. As to the Japanese paint lots of artists were claiming health issues after using it and other issues and so asked Stuart for his opinion.
Can't speak for the other colors, but it is actually possible to determine which one is the blackest black based on how much light it absorbs. Would love to see someone test all these different black pigments in a lab!
I've studied art & design, and from my standpoint the front of this video was really frustrating to watch. I understand Cristine isn't a member of the art arena. Anish is a pretty awful human and classic art has a long history of only letting certain people be successful with art for a lot of variables (white men, classically trained, very specific style, paid for by the churches, etc.)
Plus, I believe at least for VantaBlack and 3.0 they were 3rd party tested for their light absorbency.
Rumor has it that they've made this paint based on my own very soul
Same sweetheart
You look so happy compared to the last few regular channel videos, its good to see you having so much fun streaming!!!
Musou black should be applied with an airbrush. The application will be significantly darker that way.
"Please hold for PPE". So much respect to you for this. Also this was such a good ad for one coat black..
Ahahahaha this is such old drama but it's still funny AF!! Glad Cristine is so entertained!!!
It would be really interesting to know if the Musou black is safe for you to use as a background, and if it makes a big difference for photos and recording!
Obligatory reminder that Vantablack is a material, not a paint or pigment.
i remember someone in TV show reacting to pinkest pink - and they told that viewers watching it through TV or notebooks and stuff wont actually see what people in studio see - the pigmenst is so pink, that screens just arent able to reproduce that
Christine the Science Queen 💗 love you bringing that back. Long time fan . Love your videos
Let’s not forget ibk blue. The paint that started it all… the things Yves Klein did with this paint were insane
Stuart Semple is the funniest guy in the world, sorry I don't make the rules
competition is good for innovation so i can’t be mad at stuart for allat even though it is dramatic. i Can be mad at anish kapoor cuz he stinky and its also funny artist beef
Never in my life would I ever think I'd be this invested in a petty drama surrounding colors and pigments
Omg the energy.
This just proves how incredible one coat black really is.
So fun fact, Stuart made the diamond glitter because if Anish stuck his finger in it to flick him off with it again it would hurt
Oh my gosh the commentary that came from the art community from this it was amazing! I’d have to double check, but I believe SuperRaeDizzle has at least 1 on this.
Apparently I'm an artist because I had massive *feelings* over the musou black literally right before she recognized why artists might have a hard on for this kind of thing. Damn. Feelin' a little special.
Omg! The chaos in this video is the best! I love it when Cristine loses her mind! 😂
I have Semple's shirtiest shirt, which is the disclaimer that I am not Anish Kapoor, am not affiliated with Kapoor, etc... It's great. I love it
Really minor detail but censoring Goya’s “Saturn Devouring His Son” with Ben’s head and dropping the drama beat made me die laughing
The whole blackest black fight is hysterical. Stuart Semple even tried to get Chicagoans to go paint the Bean (by Anush Kapur) Pinkest Pink.i hope they did.
couldn't you paint a piece of cardboard with the paint and use that as the background?
I watched The Action Lab painting a whole room in muso black and getting paint all over his hands like no big deal
I have to admit seeing the diamond dust on the shoe gave me flashbacks to the whole face of chrome powder look from way back when 😭
I don't know if this would be too much for a live, but could you do a Bob Ross painting with nail polish
You still say yikes forever, I love it
I wish i could paint my ceiling with this black 😎
could you paint a wood panel with this black paint to then use as the black backdrop for your photography?
I know there's one coat black but wouldn't be opposed to a matte black ultra black polish that's similar to this paint... 😍
Cristine, if you are using a pff2 mask , the white one, it would not be enough for a toxic gas reaction... although I do use it in the lab for safety purposes when I don't know exactly what is going to happen, it will just be a mechanic obstacle to larger particles! Science queen safety first!
I think Christine should collab with Stuart, I like his petty energy and his youtube channel is pretty cool.
This drama is pretty old now. We love Stuart Semple in this house.
Anish Kapoor can go be lonely lol
Stuart Semple is the most delightfully (righteously) petty dude on the internet. He's brilliant.
Get rekt bean boy
like
Christine should just use the paint to make her own black backdrop for product shots with how black that paint is. I mean you couldn't even see brush strokes in it at all.
I love when Cristine talks about art drama 😅
New colour or material can be copyrighted as it is then in turn patented and protected!
🎵 I have ba na nas
and I want to
paint them blaaaaaack 🎵
As far as I'm concerned the issue is with a single artist essentially preventing other people making certain works of art. If you ban people from using a particular material you ban them from making anything that requires that material. I (and many other creative types) argue that it is totally unethical to stop people creating in this way. One artist inhibiting another artist is bad enough, but this was an attempt to prevent the entire art world exploring this new material. That puts a restriction on progress and exploration that is bad for everyone.
this situation is like 4/10 funny on its own but like 11/10 funny when narrated by you
You might try photographing on black velvet to get a blacker background for your nail pictures as it won't reflect light as much.
Banana redacted would be a fun Holo Taco April Fool's joke....Hear me out:
Sell One Coat Black under a new name Banana-hacks Redacted and it could be in a bundle with Banana-hacks 🤔
Did ya'll see the "paint the bean pinkest pink" Facebook event? 😂🤣
So, are you going to paint a piece of paper with the black and take pics with that as a backdrop? If you I would love to see the results ♥️
I love these stream highlight videos so much. I don't really enjoy streams for a variety of personal reasons, but these highlights feel like old simply videos, but modernized. It's Simply now, with old Simply editing, and I love it.
I heard about this years ago and my stance hasn't changed: Kapoor is a twit.
didn't know anish kapoor managed to ge t some pigment lol such a petty thing to do.
It's glass glitter to prevent Anish from dipping his middle finger in it
I just wish regular matte top coat was this matte. I want the worlds matte’st matte nail top coat to be a thing. It’s never matte enough
Love Semple’s products! This story is one of my favorites.
You should look into their glow in the dark powders! The nail art you could do 😍
Science Queen Energy is what Cristine and us need more often, absolute chaos , love it 😂💖
wait wasnt this guy the only person allowed to use it? i know lots of other artists were mad about that
Anish Kapoor is just a jerk overall, tbh.
Watching purely to see if she tops it with a holo taco
For context (also, im from Australia, but we have a bunch of crossover words with the UK) a 'baddie' is like a juvenile way of referring to a 'bad guy' (hence the name) or a villain~
maybe you can paint a sheet with the paint and use it as a background for photos
I noticed that the Vanta black images you could still see details in of the like bust, so it makes me giggle that the others are better XD
i would love to see a culture hustle and holo taco collab
I feel the need to quote "This is Spinal Tap": "It's like... how much more black could it be? And the answer is none. None... more black."
Hi Simply:))) Hope you’re doing well!!!❤
Stuart Semple is a goddamn hero of our times
There have certainly been art beefs in the past, but this one is particularly entertaining.
I sometimes get bubbling with glossy taco even with holo taco polishes. Only one of the holo taco range I would not recommend
I love how your outfits on point, especially the ears. Im waiting for holo taco ears :P
You should paint the nail polish containers with the black paint then you should sell them as mystery nail polish BTW this is just an idea
Hii everyone!!
Hope y’all having a good day!❤
She didn’t put Holo on top of it!! Disappointed
watching this in 1.5x speed. First 10 minutes is just hilarious xD
That gucci nail polish is g r o s s
Honestly, this is hilarious and the pettiness sells it. It’s good marketing. Haha
There is probably some kind of IP for these paints if the formula is unique enough
Its like a censorship-black-paint xD
Why not use your new paint to create a photography background?
I would think that using a famous artists name on your website would lead to a big lawsuit, but both of them sound so annoying, like you’re going back n forth about pigment…
I've had so many polishes.. cheap polishes bubble up like that when I use a top coat. I think that's saying something 😬
Uhhh Mista white can i uh help simplynailogical paint a banana 🍌
Excited for the release of “banana redacted”
Banana [Redacted]
Band name.
Called it.
Even though the top coat reacted weirdly, I'm still curious to see holos and glitters on the black
Yes! We need the Rainbow snow on the blackest of blacks!!!!!! 💜💜💜💜💜🌈
So given that Cristine painted that Holo Taco bottle with that black, how did it come off? Soap and water?
Banana Redacted should be a creme yellow with black glitter or vice versa.