Would you make a video, on trading-in a S23U for a S24+? I'm saving about $250 bucks by going with the S24+, as opposed to upgrading to the S24U. That's a big deal.
About 7 minutes in, you said it's a worse deal than last year to buy at preorder, but... If last year the trade of the prior Ultra gave $550, and this year it's $750, and the price jumped $100, it's a $100 better deal at net.
I just priced a 1TB unit out. With trade in (Note 20 Ultra), it is going to be around $667. Not too bad, but I didn't see any discount, even with the link they sent me in the text.
This is why he's my favorite he doesn't BS or Fake anything nor does he seem to mind if we agree he does so in a respectable manner how can you not respect that?
Yeah because his the real deal . 🎉🎉🎉🎉and that’s perfect 👍. Good on you Mate that’s called a Little BeauDY!!! 🇦🇺🇦🇺 Honest opinion in PLACE ! Come on SAMSUNG BE REAL NOW! The people deserve respect 🫡👧👶are watching 🫵🏼🫵🏼🫵🏼🫵🏼now. Mm!
The Whole point of pictures is the preserve memories.. I don't want a situation where I'm looking back at the photos and wondering how much of it is fake..
I have the s22 ultra right now. Even if compared to the snapdragon variant it might not be up to scratch. But seen and tested as a phone on its own, I'm happy with it. I DO have good battery life. I'm a heavy user too. My photos and videos seem great too lol
Same here with my 22 ultra but i will be upgrading. Are you upgrading as well? If not I have a brand new Zagg xtr curve screen protector I just got and never opened if you are interested. My timing is horrible😅
We should definitely use our phones longer than a year....from ethical reasons, financial reasons, the environment...if is anything, I am jealous from you. Changing my phone twice a year, I feel like a sick dog
The AI features coming to the S23 Ultra in a few more months really make it pointless to upgrade. If you have an older or worse phone, it might be worth it. Without the AI features, you're really just left with battery life, camera quality, and processing power/speed as the main things to look for. The S23 Ultra is pretty good on all of those things, at least at this current point in time.
The phone dealer s taking trade ups. But there asking half the amount this time . Only a week ago was $1000 now it’s say $500 for same trade up phone 📱😂. Common who stupid idea 💡 was that 🤣. You can get more yourself online. Someone is 🥸 a drrr!
Samsung just got too comfortable after the great sales of S23 series. And thought of a brilliant idea for S24...to just do marketing gimmicks with AI shit and ofcourse TM ROH's favourite thing to do-Cost cutting.
Been a Samsung user for decades and after almost a full 10 years I am upgrading from my S7 edge to the new S24 Ultra. The phone served me right, survived hundread of drops and the battery after many uses still works. BEST PHONE EVER! Hope the S24 Ultra will serve me just as well and can't wait to get it.
@@ChristianWolff-v6n I never had that issue before I'm still using my Samsung S9 Plus I have to upgrade to a new device I'm thinking on the Samsung s24 Ultra or the Samsung 24 + my S9 has a lot of glitches in it now
I finally gave in and traded my Note 9 after so many years and ordered the S24 Ultra... With the trade in and preorder discounts I got it for under $850 with free buds, case and screen protector so i think that was a steal of a deal 😁 I could not pass that up.
Wait, how old is the note 9? I only get up to 300 for my s10, so still had to pay over 1000 for the 24 ultra. And only had enough promo credits for the free buds.
I can understand Samsung wanting to use their own chip, but it's a shame for us here in Europe because it makes the choice a little more difficult. What I really don't like is paying a first class price and getting a second class product. If Samsung acted the same all over the world, it would be different, but I get annoyed when I get treated badly on a local level. However, it's important to say that the Exynos 2400 isn't that bad and at least in the tests I've seen so far, it beats the Tensor 3. Also, as far as AI cloud services are concerned, it has to be said that this will eventually affect everyone in some way. A look at Google's past also shows that you are not safe from this kind of development here either. That's why I base my purchasing decisions primarily on the hardware and the functions that really run on device. Neither Samsung nor Google with their cloud functions really impress me. For example, if I want to edit my pictures, I can do that on my PC, I don't need the cloud to do it for me.
I will not pay for AI feature the phone should work without paying for it you just won't be able to access the AI you could probably still use the device I would hope so it's like apple music if you don't pay for Apple music you just can't use it
Comparing my s23 + to my new s24 ultra, and the s23+ seems to have deeper colours in pictures and phone display settings. Like the s24 ultra colours are washed out. Is anyone seeing the same?
The price has dropped here in Ireland for the 512gb this year by €50. But last year the price went up while the US got no price rises. I think Apple did the same here too.
I truly believe the reason why you are becoming so much more popular is do to your realistic perspective and approach to the products that are being hailed as amazing. I completely respect all of your opinions because you talk about all the phones in a compare and contrast manner without being biased. Not many RUclips reviewers are like you and I appreciate you.
The entire s24 series uses the same sensor for 3X Zoom and Ultra wide that has been in use since Note 20 series, and yes they have gotten the pricing absolutely wrong, given that they are selling it in most markets with the Exynos Chip
I guess I'll try not to get used to the AI features, if they're just going to eventually charge for using it. That aside, I'm mainly just upgrading from the S21 Ultra to a faster, longer term and well balanced phone.
I remember the Galaxy S7 I had in Brazil, it had Exynos and it was great. super fast. Then Ive tried the same phone in US but with Snapdragon, it was extremely slow!
I would assume the price increase is due to Titanium. I dont know specifics about cost between aluminum and titanium but I would assume Ti to be more expensive???
I don't know how much titanium is in it but i read that the iphone has about $30 worth. I figure the amount in the Samsung is probably comparable. So i guess you probably have about $30, plus any potential increase in the cost of working with the titanium, minus the cost of the aluminum that the titanium replaced. Edit: so apparently titanium is about 10x more expensive. So approximately a $27 increase in materials cost, plus any potential increase in manufacturing costs due to working with the titanium vs aluminum. I'd be curious to know that answer
The exynos variants do not hold up well, after a year they experience dramatic slow downs compared to their counterpart snapdragon variants, which seem to last years.
Hi. You are echoing my concerns on the S24/S24+ over here in the UK. I have the S23+ since last year & it's fantastic compared to the S22+ by a mile imo. I have purchased the 24 Ultra 512 GB for £1349 value. Total value with the free watch, strap, leather case & screen protector came to & £1711. Ouch! I ended up paying £858 which is reasonable as I kept my S23+ & trade in the S22+, which was my backup device. I would have gone for the S24+ but the reversion to the Exynos this year stopped me. A prime example of brands annoying their loyal customers with unfathomable business practices. Great content as usual. You are a top notch creator in my book. 😊
Oh BTW, I'll also get free Disney + for a year, once the transaction has completed. That's an additional saving of £130. Not too shabby. Therefore, I can say the S24 Ultra will cost me £728 all in.
If push comes to shove with Samsung charging for AI features that might be the time to return to the alternative platform. 🍏 Yikes. Then I can get annoyed by their antics instead. What a dilemma!
I'm glad I discovered your channel recently. The price increase , the fine print of the AI no longer free after 2025 and two different chip sets for different markets. Poor form Samsung that's why I will get a pixel pro which has almost the same features for $650 cheaper
The reason they want to go with the exynos is that's their own arm license and they don't have to pay Qualcomm per chip for using Snapdragon. I think Samsung is trying very hard to use their own in-house stuff. Much like apple does to relieve themselves of the burden of the licensing fees from Qualcomm
I'm getting the s24 ultra. My s22 ultra screen just started bleeding, the battery life was terrible as well. I have to recharge the phone twice in work day and 1 more time before bed.
Thanks for the video bro Yeah there's no way I'll be paying for AI I got my Pixel 8 Pro which does it just as good if not better than Samsung S24 Plus. I am kind of excited though to get my S24 plus
I'm surprised you don't know why they brought it back. Mainly because is cheaper to build and creates competitive ground, where SDG3 had to lower their price per chip for them to put them in S24 ultra. There are people that already benchmarked the Exynos chip and the chip is amazingly good compared to the last gen. Surprisingly Exynos Surpasses SDG3 buy a LOT in Raytracing performance like by a lot. And the Temps are actually what is expected of a chip with this performance. You will see when you test it yourself
Most "AI" features of the S24-Series are a nice-to-have gimmick, but i don't think that that anyone will find them useful enough to actually pay for them after 2024. The only useful "AI" feature that i see people actually using more than once or twice is the Google Scan/Lens or whatever function to search for items. But that's it and this feature will be free to use on Google Pixel phones anyway. So unless Samsung will add some crazy, mind-blowing and super useful AI-feautures with an update later that year, Samsung AI will go down in history as a big overhyped marketing fail.
I remember once owning a Samsung flagship that hade a function called air touch. You could hoover your hand over the display and select stuff that way. It was absolutely useless. Samsung tends to do this. They implement weirdo futures and scrap them later on. They even give you options that they later quietly remove (bitrate high quality videos). Then they implement futures like 10 time optical zoom but later go back to 5 times optical zoom and charge more. They many times don’t make sense
I think the AI features are always half baked out the box. I also wish Samsung had stuck with 10x zoom on Ultra and given the Plus model a 5x zoom. That would make Plus a perfect phone in terms of size design and specs. As for Exynos iy varies cos some reviews stated S23FE Exynos version had better image quality than Snapdragon which was over sharpened and Exynos has little more noise but was more natural sharpening
I watched tech chaps review and his camera comparison portion the 24 photos actually looked better imo. Especially the pic of the royal guard. His red jacket and face were extremely blown out. Looked great on the 24 though.
@@lukebennett.I tested side by side, and it is. Especially in the sweet spot of zoom where the 23U had to rely on the 3x lens till you engaged the 10x, the 24U's 5x performs better. After that, the bump to 50MP and larger (and 2 generations newer) sensor makes up the difference all the way up to 100x by its ability to sensor crop. It's not night and day better, but it is better.
Great content. Here's a question. Say at the end of 2025. If you don't want to pay for the AI, can you turn it off, or will they make you pay for it. And how will the carriers charge you. If it's an exclusive samsung charge.🤔
That price increases to the price I pay for my phone and insurance for two years. Thats just priced me out of the market. Seem they only want professionals and no one else on the phones
I would almost have to believe with future updates they will increase the AI utilization. Maybe that’s why they think they’ll be able to charge for it. I don’t keep a phone typically past 2 years anyway.
Definitely NOT paying for AI either. And even if they do, I'd imagine that new phones will have free AI for 12 or 24 months, so if you update every two years anyway, it won't be an issue. This Paywall will go the way of the BMW heated seats issue.
I would assume that the price increase is due to the newly announced 7 years of updates. And as far as them producing an in-house chip for their phones just ask Huawei about that.
When I have to pay for AI I will cease being a samsung customer . I always get the new ultra every year and samsung trades are amazing but they raised the price and I would think that AI would be be covered under the 100$ price hike... anyway I digress but it is BS
I have the s22 Ultra and would like to upgrade but I am not seeing much improvement in the S24 Ultra to do so. Would anyone with a S22 upgrade to a S23 instead of the S24? Maybe wait for the updates to the S23. I see pleased consumers of the S23. Also, I am not clear on whether the AI will go behind a paywall in 2 years. If so, then why would the s24 be worth it? Plus, S24 is the same design for the past 3 years and I already thinking about s25. Would there be a new design then? I would like to see improvements in the in the camera, most of all the front facing camera, I do a lot of video calls.
I traded in my s22ultra for the s23ultra last year at pre-order. And I can say the battery optimization on the s23ultra is way better than the s22ultra. I would say if you do trade, I'd definitely go for the s24ultra. I was gonna upgrade but the difference between the 23 and 24 is not that great. Plus the pricing is BS! Especially for a loyal customers who upgrades every year. I really don't care about the AI crap I'm sure a lot of those features will come to the s23ultra and the s22ultra. I think I'm gonna wait on the 25.
@@R74-b7p Thank you so much for responding. I totally agree. The pricing is crap. I am still thinking, but I like the idea of waiting on the 25. Again, thanks for the great advice, gives me something to think about.
Agree with you on the exynos. Sad for those stuck with it 7 years potentially. The pay to play is an unacceptable trend. Phone anxiety is right, like range anxiety who needs it!?
Every time I’ve tried to buy the S24 Ultra, it gets stuck at checkout. Trying to agree to the terms and conditions, it doesn’t let me get past them. The “next page” option isn’t there. Try to do it on another device, it doesn’t let me get to the terms and conditions at all. Online is all that works, but then I can’t get the discount. Really annoying.
No SD card support no thanks....8k 300MB files for 30 seconds of video and super gigamegapixel cameras and no freaking place to store them. Not to mention if the SOC dies you loose all the things....This is like buying a Ferrari witha 1/2 gallon fuel tank. Flash is not that expensive in 2024 the only reason they took expandable storage away is pure greed to drive people into cloud subscriptions.
The reason they did the price increase is because they can. People will continue to pay for it so why not. If they do it $50-$100 every couple years eventslly they are getting $300-$400 extra per phone. If they did it all at once people wouldnt pay it but slowly over time people dont notice as much.
The majority of ppl trade their phone in, and they give credits for their accessories. I have never paid full price, and I got 2 free earbuds and a charger. I could care less about AI....camera quality is why I upgraded.
I wish from 2024 and beyond consumers stop fussing themselves about lack of micro SD slots and 3.5mm headphone jacks.......it's not coming back to the flagships!!!!!!. If that bothers you buy a next brand or a cheap A series !!!!! 😑😑😑😑
Can you answer a question for me is a Camara lens protector needed on the phones and I did order a s24 plus for my wife for her birthday since she has the s20 fe
Because you had warned me about the footnote saying that after 2025 the AI features were not going to be free. I called Samsung technical support and the person I talked to said that whatever AI is on the phone already by the end of 2025 will be still be usable for free, but at or after that time there may be AI upgrades available that may have to pay for it you want them. You can stay with what's already on the phone for free. Hopefully this technical support person has got the story straight.
They don't know what samsung is going to do. Even samsung doesn't know what they will do in 2025. If these phones don't sell, these AI plans will go back on the drawing board. If they sell well, then samsung will be emboldened to charge whatever they feel like
Google doesn't charge for their AI because your data is there business. Where as Samsung, not so much. But charging for it is pretty unpopular, so they may backoff of it.
I’m actually optimistic about the Exynos 2400. Tests are looking good and I like that they went a little conservative with the clock speeds on the 5 middle A720 cores with 2@2.9GHz and 3@2.6GHz. That should translate to more thermal headroom for the GPU and modem. I like snapdragon but I am hoping Samsung does good with this SOC.
It seemed to me that the disclaimer regarding the AI features being free until the end of 2025 had a lot to do with Samsungs third party agreements with the vendors who are providing a lot of that technology more so than them just arbitrarily deciding to charge a fee for it starting in 2026. When those agreements expire Samsung can no longer guarantee those services will be free hence the disclaimer. Either way they could do a better job clarifying this for potential customers especially those who are on the fence about whether or not to purchase the S24 Ultra or keep their current device another year.
It’s a decision that they will pay for in the UK market. They got so much right with the s24 which basically brings you most of the required features, but the exynos is a put off!
@@Noworries-PU7ye yea but for many it’s a price point issue, also some people liked the old style of Galaxies, less boxy etc the s24plus would of been a big seller with the large screen and basically Ultra hardware, but exynos has a bad name.
1. UK chip needs to be tested 2. We don't know what's going to happen after the year of AI 3. No one is paying full price for this phone. Been the best deals for a flagship in a long time
I use a OnePlus open as my daily driver. I have a z fold 5 that sits in a drawer. You think it's worth trading in the zfold 5 and getting an sp24 ultra as a secondary device to use in situations that maybe can't use a foldable.
Samsung phone with Exynos chip will be cheap after 3 months only, here in vietnam for 1st month release it cost 1000usd for base model then 3 months later it will be 450usd. Exynos isn't good, most ppl will avoid it at all cost in Vietnam 😅
Would've upgraded both my S23 Ultras just for that flat screen (absolutely detest curved screens) ... but $750 TIV for the 512GB 23 Ultra ? Samsuck can take a f'ing hike!
I think Samsung might be charging for the transcription services for the no takeing portion for example when they were recording multiple people in a room and they're labeling each different person I've used to services like this for example, as a company called otter AI they charge roughly about 20 bucks a month to do this dictation service, so this is where that subscription service may come into play. Again I'm only speculating I have no clue
Weren't there articles saying Samsung went all in on S24 manufacturing much more units then in the past? They might be stuck with a lot of leftover inventory. But of course that can mean big price drops but then you got the AI stuff and many S23 users very happy with that unit...I know I'm happy with my S23 ultra
I have never owned a Samsung Galaxy series, and currently I recognize that this S24 Ultra really catches my attention. My current mobile device is the iPhone 15 Pro Max, and my question would be if it is really worth buying the Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra having an iPhone 15 Pro Max. My intention is to have a second mobile device with android operating system, that is why I ask if it is better to buy a S24 ultra or buy the previous model (S23 Ultra) or buy the Google Pixel Pro 8 (I understand that the Pixel is 100% stock android without bloatware and I think it also brings AI features).
My reasons to upgrade from S23 Ultra 512 Gb with S$ 466 is worthy. 1. Additional 12 months warranty. 2. Anti glare is really good. 3. 50 MP lens is really good. 4. Flat display is really good 5. Variable Zooming on 4K video is really good. 6. S23 Ultra case can still be used. 7. Faster and more efficient Qualcom chip. 8. Higher resale value for S24 Ultra. 9. Future WiFi 7 ready
I was already adding S24 U to the shopping cart today. But I realized that I made it S23 U and I started to think.. no sense. I'm waiting for the S25 Ultra.
What really annoys me is people still say the pixel 8 pro has an exynos when it doesn't. It is kinda weird they keep using a chip that people don't like in other countries. I think it's a big mistake to make people pay for AI and try to hide it at that. It's just apple level scummy. I really hope that Google stays with free AI features and just stays with the pro phone having most of the features, I'd rather that than having to pay a subscription for AI features. I'd rather pay a little more for a phone and get free AI features, no subscription.
Samsung's loss of market share is pretty much self inflicted. That rumor that TM Roh is a double agent from a rival company sounds funny but might hold a little water.
I think we have to understand that phones will not have major changes from now on. I am still surprised that people act so weird on that. They can not completely change the phone every year. The price has to do with how much your coin is worth in your country as well. Here the s24 ultra is even more expensive then in America and we also pay more for iPhones by the way. iPhone is still more expensive then the s24 ultra looking at the storage and that I receive the watch 6 LTE for free with it.
Did we all have a feeling that the s24ultra was going to be higher in price but not offer more 🤔 is sad. Makes me glad i jumped on the s23 ultra before samsumg increased the price. Im generally shocked 😲 about that increase because i feel like your not getting more except AI features.
I have an S23 with SD Gen 2 chip so wouldnt consider a 24 or S24+ with an Exynos chip that would be a backward step. The UK & Europe are being shortchanged, I suppose the sales stats will reveal all.
Can buy it online by the Canadian version can you use the Snapdragon gen 3 or you can buy the Samsung s24 Ultra that will have the right chipset it would just cost you a little bit more money I would not accept the exynos 2400 unless they give me the device for 100.00 tax included by the Canadian version of possible🇨🇦
In the markets where the s24 and s24plus are using the exynos chip, you're better off with the pixel 8 or 8 pro. Pixels have better cameras, better AI, cheaper even before discounts and we're already seeing discounts. Tensor G3 and exynos 2400 are the same chip. I'm waiting for the OnePlus 12, or waiting to see what Asus do with the ZenFone 11, rumour has it they maybe releaseing a plus/pro/ultra model along with the regular model.
1299 = Titanium, Gorilla glass Amour, slightly better screen, SD 8G3 exclusivity and new telephoto cam. Price is high and I'm not sure its worth it as i don't care about AI, but i have a failing Note 20 Ultra so ill save and get the S24U during the year If the full reviews are favorable if they are not and i don't feel bougie S23U or maybe the Honor magic 6 pro they are doing interesting things.
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Would you make a video, on trading-in a S23U for a S24+? I'm saving about $250 bucks by going with the S24+, as opposed to upgrading to the S24U. That's a big deal.
About 7 minutes in, you said it's a worse deal than last year to buy at preorder, but... If last year the trade of the prior Ultra gave $550, and this year it's $750, and the price jumped $100, it's a $100 better deal at net.
I just priced a 1TB unit out. With trade in (Note 20 Ultra), it is going to be around $667. Not too bad, but I didn't see any discount, even with the link they sent me in the text.
I love how you keep it real. You care for your supporters while most kiss azz for popularity and to get the free phones as gifts. Respect!
This is why he's my favorite he doesn't BS or Fake anything nor does he seem to mind if we agree he does so in a respectable manner how can you not respect that?
Yeah because his the real deal . 🎉🎉🎉🎉and that’s perfect 👍. Good on you Mate that’s called a Little BeauDY!!! 🇦🇺🇦🇺 Honest opinion in PLACE ! Come on SAMSUNG BE REAL NOW! The people deserve respect 🫡👧👶are watching 🫵🏼🫵🏼🫵🏼🫵🏼now. Mm!
The Whole point of pictures is the preserve memories.. I don't want a situation where I'm looking back at the photos and wondering how much of it is fake..
Still have the s24u in cart. Even with all the bad, I still want it.
Google you can get these features Ai. 👍
Whats the bad?
@@PollyDollyBabe Are you saying get a Pixel?
I have the s22 ultra right now. Even if compared to the snapdragon variant it might not be up to scratch. But seen and tested as a phone on its own, I'm happy with it. I DO have good battery life. I'm a heavy user too. My photos and videos seem great too lol
Google has these features. ⭕️.
Same here with my 22 ultra but i will be upgrading. Are you upgrading as well? If not I have a brand new Zagg xtr curve screen protector I just got and never opened if you are interested. My timing is horrible😅
I have s22 ultra and i just bought my s24 ultra. hoping i get it before the 30th.
@@furshizzle Are you trading in?
We should definitely use our phones longer than a year....from ethical reasons, financial reasons, the environment...if is anything, I am jealous from you. Changing my phone twice a year, I feel like a sick dog
The AI features coming to the S23 Ultra in a few more months really make it pointless to upgrade. If you have an older or worse phone, it might be worth it. Without the AI features, you're really just left with battery life, camera quality, and processing power/speed as the main things to look for. The S23 Ultra is pretty good on all of those things, at least at this current point in time.
Think so, I'm in same situation
Um update be here next month not no couple months
Lots of AI features are built into the chip. For me flat screen is a deal breaker
The phone dealer s taking trade ups. But there asking half the amount this time . Only a week ago was $1000 now it’s say $500 for same trade up phone 📱😂. Common who stupid idea 💡 was that 🤣. You can get more yourself online. Someone is 🥸 a drrr!
Yup Im upgrading from S21U. Going to be a solid upgrade due to battery life and cpu performance alone.
Reason I don’t jump on launch day. I really enjoy my S 23 Ultra and don’t see myself upgrading to the 24 Ultra anytime in the near future if at all
Samsung just got too comfortable after the great sales of S23 series.
And thought of a brilliant idea for S24...to just do marketing gimmicks with AI shit and ofcourse TM ROH's favourite thing to do-Cost cutting.
Thr only reason they'd go back to the Exynos on Europe is presumably cost saving.
Been a Samsung user for decades and after almost a full 10 years I am upgrading from my S7 edge to the new S24 Ultra. The phone served me right, survived hundread of drops and the battery after many uses still works. BEST PHONE EVER! Hope the S24 Ultra will serve me just as well and can't wait to get it.
I'm in Canada. It might be different for you.
@@ramjirao7645is it worth of grading my S9 Plus for the s24 ultra? 🇨🇦
See you in 10 years again with the s34 ultra 😅
battery overheat and screen turn green flickering after software update every 3 years.
@@ChristianWolff-v6n I never had that issue before I'm still using my Samsung S9 Plus I have to upgrade to a new device I'm thinking on the Samsung s24 Ultra or the Samsung 24 + my S9 has a lot of glitches in it now
I finally gave in and traded my Note 9 after so many years and ordered the S24 Ultra... With the trade in and preorder discounts I got it for under $850 with free buds, case and screen protector so i think that was a steal of a deal 😁 I could not pass that up.
Wait, how old is the note 9? I only get up to 300 for my s10, so still had to pay over 1000 for the 24 ultra. And only had enough promo credits for the free buds.
Who is your provider? I got mine for $750 with double memory at no extra cost to me with the pre order deals and I kept my note 10+
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Yes, please let me know what you got for the Note 9? Here in SA its not traded in as an eligible device which really sucks!!
I can understand Samsung wanting to use their own chip, but it's a shame for us here in Europe because it makes the choice a little more difficult. What I really don't like is paying a first class price and getting a second class product. If Samsung acted the same all over the world, it would be different, but I get annoyed when I get treated badly on a local level.
However, it's important to say that the Exynos 2400 isn't that bad and at least in the tests I've seen so far, it beats the Tensor 3. Also, as far as AI cloud services are concerned, it has to be said that this will eventually affect everyone in some way. A look at Google's past also shows that you are not safe from this kind of development here either. That's why I base my purchasing decisions primarily on the hardware and the functions that really run on device. Neither Samsung nor Google with their cloud functions really impress me. For example, if I want to edit my pictures, I can do that on my PC, I don't need the cloud to do it for me.
I will not pay for AI feature the phone should work without paying for it you just won't be able to access the AI you could probably still use the device I would hope so it's like apple music if you don't pay for Apple music you just can't use it
1 Samsung using exynos chip. 2 paying for a.i. 3 price increase.
Comparing my s23 + to my new s24 ultra, and the s23+ seems to have deeper colours in pictures and phone display settings. Like the s24 ultra colours are washed out. Is anyone seeing the same?
The price has dropped here in Ireland for the 512gb this year by €50. But last year the price went up while the US got no price rises. I think Apple did the same here too.
I truly believe the reason why you are becoming so much more popular is do to your realistic perspective and approach to the products that are being hailed as amazing. I completely respect all of your opinions because you talk about all the phones in a compare and contrast manner without being biased. Not many RUclips reviewers are like you and I appreciate you.
The entire s24 series uses the same sensor for 3X Zoom and Ultra wide that has been in use since Note 20 series, and yes they have gotten the pricing absolutely wrong, given that they are selling it in most markets with the Exynos Chip
I guess I'll try not to get used to the AI features, if they're just going to eventually charge for using it. That aside, I'm mainly just upgrading from the S21 Ultra to a faster, longer term and well balanced phone.
I remember the Galaxy S7 I had in Brazil, it had Exynos and it was great. super fast. Then Ive tried the same phone in US but with Snapdragon, it was extremely slow!
So. It looks like I'm going to be staying with my S23 ultra.
Think so for me
Good idea👌🏿
Imagine upgrading yearly
Hanging onto my 23u curve screen and all
Solid choice
I too am an advocate for the curves screen👌🏿
I would assume the price increase is due to Titanium. I dont know specifics about cost between aluminum and titanium but I would assume Ti to be more expensive???
I don't know how much titanium is in it but i read that the iphone has about $30 worth. I figure the amount in the Samsung is probably comparable. So i guess you probably have about $30, plus any potential increase in the cost of working with the titanium, minus the cost of the aluminum that the titanium replaced.
Edit: so apparently titanium is about 10x more expensive. So approximately a $27 increase in materials cost, plus any potential increase in manufacturing costs due to working with the titanium vs aluminum. I'd be curious to know that answer
The exynos variants do not hold up well, after a year they experience dramatic slow downs compared to their counterpart snapdragon variants, which seem to last years.
Not true at all... talking from experience
I passed my Note 5 with Exynos on to someone desperate for a phone, and it's still going strong, no complaints!
Hi. You are echoing my concerns on the S24/S24+ over here in the UK. I have the S23+ since last year & it's fantastic compared to the S22+ by a mile imo. I have purchased the 24 Ultra 512 GB for £1349 value. Total value with the free watch, strap, leather case & screen protector came to & £1711. Ouch! I ended up paying £858 which is reasonable as I kept my S23+ & trade in the S22+, which was my backup device. I would have gone for the S24+ but the reversion to the Exynos this year stopped me. A prime example of brands annoying their loyal customers with unfathomable business practices. Great content as usual. You are a top notch creator in my book. 😊
Oh BTW, I'll also get free Disney + for a year, once the transaction has completed. That's an additional saving of £130. Not too shabby. Therefore, I can say the S24 Ultra will cost me £728 all in.
Agreed, we're getting a raw deal In uk
Exynos seems pretty good this time but fair enough
If push comes to shove with Samsung charging for AI features that might be the time to return to the alternative platform. 🍏 Yikes. Then I can get annoyed by their antics instead. What a dilemma!
@@DrMoorehenthen by the 🇨🇦 version😊
I could be wrong - but I believe the possibility for extra $ after 2005 for AI features is due to the ones that are 3rd party ( belong to Google ).
I refuse to pay for AI your device is still operate you just want to have access to the cloud that's all let's hope so
You would be correct.
Also, I appreciate that you're putting videos out every day. That's a lot of work I don't think people understand that. Keep it up man!
I'm glad I discovered your channel recently. The price increase , the fine print of the AI no longer free after 2025 and two different chip sets for different markets. Poor form Samsung that's why I will get a pixel pro which has almost the same features for $650 cheaper
I've had the last three pixels. Don't do it, straight garbage.
The reason they want to go with the exynos is that's their own arm license and they don't have to pay Qualcomm per chip for using Snapdragon. I think Samsung is trying very hard to use their own in-house stuff. Much like apple does to relieve themselves of the burden of the licensing fees from Qualcomm
I'm getting the s24 ultra. My s22 ultra screen just started bleeding, the battery life was terrible as well. I have to recharge the phone twice in work day and 1 more time before bed.
Thanks for the video bro Yeah there's no way I'll be paying for AI I got my Pixel 8 Pro which does it just as good if not better than Samsung S24 Plus. I am kind of excited though to get my S24 plus
Do you realize that you’re the only one talking about the AI being free until 2025!!! I give you a big thanks for informing us!!! Kudos to you, sir!
I'm surprised you don't know why they brought it back. Mainly because is cheaper to build and creates competitive ground, where SDG3 had to lower their price per chip for them to put them in S24 ultra.
There are people that already benchmarked the Exynos chip and the chip is amazingly good compared to the last gen. Surprisingly Exynos Surpasses SDG3 buy a LOT in Raytracing performance like by a lot. And the Temps are actually what is expected of a chip with this performance. You will see when you test it yourself
NL Tech is a good one to watch
The s24 and s24 plus cameras are still the same as the ones in s22 line ?
Most "AI" features of the S24-Series are a nice-to-have gimmick, but i don't think that that anyone will find them useful enough to actually pay for them after 2024. The only useful "AI" feature that i see people actually using more than once or twice is the Google Scan/Lens or whatever function to search for items. But that's it and this feature will be free to use on Google Pixel phones anyway.
So unless Samsung will add some crazy, mind-blowing and super useful AI-feautures with an update later that year, Samsung AI will go down in history as a big overhyped marketing fail.
I remember once owning a Samsung flagship that hade a function called air touch. You could hoover your hand over the display and select stuff that way. It was absolutely useless. Samsung tends to do this. They implement weirdo futures and scrap them later on. They even give you options that they later quietly remove (bitrate high quality videos). Then they implement futures like 10 time optical zoom but later go back to 5 times optical zoom and charge more. They many times don’t make sense
I think the AI features are always half baked out the box. I also wish Samsung had stuck with 10x zoom on Ultra and given the Plus model a 5x zoom. That would make Plus a perfect phone in terms of size design and specs. As for Exynos iy varies cos some reviews stated S23FE Exynos version had better image quality than Snapdragon which was over sharpened and Exynos has little more noise but was more natural sharpening
The accident ship sucks for me because if you watch a lot of RUclips videos on your device it gets really hot😮
The 5x zoom is an improvement over the 10x zoom but sure 😂
I watched tech chaps review and his camera comparison portion the 24 photos actually looked better imo. Especially the pic of the royal guard. His red jacket and face were extremely blown out. Looked great on the 24 though.
@@lukebennett.I tested side by side, and it is. Especially in the sweet spot of zoom where the 23U had to rely on the 3x lens till you engaged the 10x, the 24U's 5x performs better. After that, the bump to 50MP and larger (and 2 generations newer) sensor makes up the difference all the way up to 100x by its ability to sensor crop. It's not night and day better, but it is better.
I having been hearing the Exynos chip is much better today, we need to see some performance comparisons.
its better then s22 but its still worse then s23+
So the AT&T version is the snapdragon ?
Agreed exynos I will never do that ever again now having the gen 2 snapdragon in the s23 ultra. Those chips make a difference
Agreed
Bought an s24+ today because of the carrier deal. I will not pay for advanced AI features. Guess I’ll just have an s23+. Thank you for your input👍👍
Great content. Here's a question. Say at the end of 2025. If you don't want to pay for the AI, can you turn it off, or will they make you pay for it. And how will the carriers charge you. If it's an exclusive samsung charge.🤔
That price increases to the price I pay for my phone and insurance for two years. Thats just priced me out of the market. Seem they only want professionals and no one else on the phones
Yeah....I was very surprised that they secretly snuck in a price increase for the S24 Ultra😒
I would almost have to believe with future updates they will increase the AI utilization. Maybe that’s why they think they’ll be able to charge for it. I don’t keep a phone typically past 2 years anyway.
Definitely NOT paying for AI either. And even if they do, I'd imagine that new phones will have free AI for 12 or 24 months, so if you update every two years anyway, it won't be an issue. This Paywall will go the way of the BMW heated seats issue.
Thanks for this info. That really sucks for us in southeast asia.
I would assume that the price increase is due to the newly announced 7 years of updates. And as far as them producing an in-house chip for their phones just ask Huawei about that.
Really wanted the 24 base. yeah, not buying one with the xynos....
When I have to pay for AI I will cease being a samsung customer . I always get the new ultra every year and samsung trades are amazing but they raised the price and I would think that AI would be be covered under the 100$ price hike... anyway I digress but it is BS
I have the s22 Ultra and would like to upgrade but I am not seeing much improvement in the S24 Ultra to do so. Would anyone with a S22 upgrade to a S23 instead of the S24? Maybe wait for the updates to the S23. I see pleased consumers of the S23. Also, I am not clear on whether the AI will go behind a paywall in 2 years. If so, then why would the s24 be worth it? Plus, S24 is the same design for the past 3 years and I already thinking about s25. Would there be a new design then? I would like to see improvements in the in the camera, most of all the front facing camera, I do a lot of video calls.
I traded in my s22ultra for the s23ultra last year at pre-order. And I can say the battery optimization on the s23ultra is way better than the s22ultra. I would say if you do trade, I'd definitely go for the s24ultra. I was gonna upgrade but the difference between the 23 and 24 is not that great. Plus the pricing is BS! Especially for a loyal customers who upgrades every year. I really don't care about the AI crap I'm sure a lot of those features will come to the s23ultra and the s22ultra. I think I'm gonna wait on the 25.
@@R74-b7p Thank you so much for responding. I totally agree. The pricing is crap. I am still thinking, but I like the idea of waiting on the 25. Again, thanks for the great advice, gives me something to think about.
I Will not buy the Ultra ? The Plus is all I will need 😍🤩?? My S9 Plus still works great for me so I may wait on the S 25 Plus to come out next year 🙂
Stick with my S22 Ultra? Not sure if I should switch..
Agree with you on the exynos. Sad for those stuck with it 7 years potentially. The pay to play is an unacceptable trend. Phone anxiety is right, like range anxiety who needs it!?
Every time I’ve tried to buy the S24 Ultra, it gets stuck at checkout. Trying to agree to the terms and conditions, it doesn’t let me get past them. The “next page” option isn’t there. Try to do it on another device, it doesn’t let me get to the terms and conditions at all. Online is all that works, but then I can’t get the discount. Really annoying.
Try a different browser. Edge seems to work the best. Chrome has lots of problems
@@TechOdyssey Thank you. I was finally able to get it to work
@@flatsamiscool awesome. Glad you got it to work!
What color did you get for the s24 ultra
The violet titanium
Do you recommend just getting the Pixel 8 Pro?
I recommend getting a pixel 8 pro from My Own personal standpoint 🫵🏾🫵🏾🫵🏾
people with money will still buy it😉
The price increase was to cover our 2 years of AI and then we will be paying $50 bucks a year to keep the features
Where are your sources saying it will be $50 a year to keep the features?
@@wheelinthroughlifewithbria7570 I was joking! I did contact Samsung though and they wouldn’t give me a number but did say it would be reasonable.
Then why not raise all 3?
I have a s22 ultra, I see no reason to upgrade.
No SD card support no thanks....8k 300MB files for 30 seconds of video and super gigamegapixel cameras and no freaking place to store them. Not to mention if the SOC dies you loose all the things....This is like buying a Ferrari witha 1/2 gallon fuel tank. Flash is not that expensive in 2024 the only reason they took expandable storage away is pure greed to drive people into cloud subscriptions.
The reason they did the price increase is because they can. People will continue to pay for it so why not. If they do it $50-$100 every couple years eventslly they are getting $300-$400 extra per phone. If they did it all at once people wouldnt pay it but slowly over time people dont notice as much.
The majority of ppl trade their phone in, and they give credits for their accessories. I have never paid full price, and I got 2 free earbuds and a charger. I could care less about AI....camera quality is why I upgraded.
I wish these "ultra" models would still have a micro sd slot. Guess, I'll keep using my note 20 ultra until it's dead
I wish from 2024 and beyond consumers stop fussing themselves about lack of micro SD slots and 3.5mm headphone jacks.......it's not coming back to the flagships!!!!!!. If that bothers you buy a next brand or a cheap A series !!!!! 😑😑😑😑
These greedy nasty companies don't want you having cheap and easy memory upgrades
Can you answer a question for me is a Camara lens protector needed on the phones and I did order a s24 plus for my wife for her birthday since she has the s20 fe
No, you don't need camera lens protectors. They end up scratching the bezel anyway
I would guess the different chip used in other markets are probably due to some sort of government regulations but that's just an opinion
Wouldn't a better phone cost more than an older version. It makes sense to me.
Because you had warned me about the footnote saying that after 2025 the AI features were not going to be free. I called Samsung technical support and the person I talked to said that whatever AI is on the phone already by the end of 2025 will be still be usable for free, but at or after that time there may be AI upgrades available that may have to pay for it you want them. You can stay with what's already on the phone for free. Hopefully this technical support person has got the story straight.
They don't know what samsung is going to do.
Even samsung doesn't know what they will do in 2025.
If these phones don't sell, these AI plans will go back on the drawing board.
If they sell well, then samsung will be emboldened to charge whatever they feel like
I see this as a precursor for Google charging for software in the Pixel 9/Pro ...
Google doesn't charge for their AI because your data is there business. Where as Samsung, not so much. But charging for it is pretty unpopular, so they may backoff of it.
Just buy an iPhone
My question is what’s on that picture behind you lol. I’m always trying to figure it out 😅
I think it's an astronaut helmet reflection
I’m actually optimistic about the Exynos 2400. Tests are looking good and I like that they went a little conservative with the clock speeds on the 5 middle A720 cores with 2@2.9GHz and 3@2.6GHz. That should translate to more thermal headroom for the GPU and modem. I like snapdragon but I am hoping Samsung does good with this SOC.
Theres a report coming out with the 24 ultra camera having the same issues with moving subjects.
It seemed to me that the disclaimer regarding the AI features being free until the end of 2025 had a lot to do with Samsungs third party agreements with the vendors who are providing a lot of that technology more so than them just arbitrarily deciding to charge a fee for it starting in 2026. When those agreements expire Samsung can no longer guarantee those services will be free hence the disclaimer. Either way they could do a better job clarifying this for potential customers especially those who are on the fence about whether or not to purchase the S24 Ultra or keep their current device another year.
R&D is going into the redesign and actual upgrade on the S25. I told you so...the S24 is not an upgrade. It's actually a downgrade in many regards.
Unlike the Essential PH1, Apple just has a titanium frame glued to the mid frame, not sure how Samsung implemented it but it'll be interesting to see.
It’s a decision that they will pay for in the UK market. They got so much right with the s24 which basically brings you most of the required features, but the exynos is a put off!
Can buy the s24 ultra that has the Snapdragon Generation 3😅
@@Noworries-PU7ye yea but for many it’s a price point issue, also some people liked the old style of Galaxies, less boxy etc the s24plus would of been a big seller with the large screen and basically Ultra hardware, but exynos has a bad name.
@@CFC_44 where I live I can get the Snapdragon even if I could not buy it online if I wanted the s24 Plus you can always buy the Canadian version
1. UK chip needs to be tested
2. We don't know what's going to happen after the year of AI
3. No one is paying full price for this phone. Been the best deals for a flagship in a long time
In the UK the S24 Ultra is gettin the snapdragon 8 gen 3 but the s24+ and s24 will have the Exynos chip
I'm sure the battery life and more will be worse on the Exynos version. 😢
@@montygill2835 it was on my s22 ultra I was only gettin 5 hours screen on time b4 the phone would die. That’s why I changed 2 iPhone
@Belly81 The iPhone better ?
@@montygill2835 Samsung has more features most of which I didn’t use. I’d take an IPhone or Pixel over a Samsung phone.
Actually, Exynos 2400 is performing as good or better than 8 gen 3 surprisingly in quite a few cases.
Definitely in wildfire
I use a OnePlus open as my daily driver. I have a z fold 5 that sits in a drawer. You think it's worth trading in the zfold 5 and getting an sp24 ultra as a secondary device to use in situations that maybe can't use a foldable.
Samsung phone with Exynos chip will be cheap after 3 months only, here in vietnam for 1st month release it cost 1000usd for base model then 3 months later it will be 450usd. Exynos isn't good, most ppl will avoid it at all cost in Vietnam 😅
Would've upgraded both my S23 Ultras just for that flat screen (absolutely detest curved screens) ... but $750 TIV for the 512GB 23 Ultra ? Samsuck can take a f'ing hike!
Will the 22 ultra get the A I feature
I think Samsung might be charging for the transcription services for the no takeing portion for example when they were recording multiple people in a room and they're labeling each different person I've used to services like this for example, as a company called otter AI they charge roughly about 20 bucks a month to do this dictation service, so this is where that subscription service may come into play. Again I'm only speculating I have no clue
We went to see the phones. Only ultra snapdragon. We said no . Considering two phones, axynos nah . Then there trade ups deals gone down in price. 😢
U have said it all bro. I can't buy new Samsung with Exynos chip and with the same price tag.
Weren't there articles saying Samsung went all in on S24 manufacturing much more units then in the past? They might be stuck with a lot of leftover inventory. But of course that can mean big price drops but then you got the AI stuff and many S23 users very happy with that unit...I know I'm happy with my S23 ultra
I have never owned a Samsung Galaxy series, and currently I recognize that this S24 Ultra really catches my attention. My current mobile device is the iPhone 15 Pro Max, and my question would be if it is really worth buying the Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra having an iPhone 15 Pro Max. My intention is to have a second mobile device with android operating system, that is why I ask if it is better to buy a S24 ultra or buy the previous model (S23 Ultra) or buy the Google Pixel Pro 8 (I understand that the Pixel is 100% stock android without bloatware and I think it also brings AI features).
This dude just making videos to make videos.
Agreed
My reasons to upgrade from S23 Ultra 512 Gb with S$ 466 is worthy.
1. Additional 12 months warranty.
2. Anti glare is really good.
3. 50 MP lens is really good.
4. Flat display is really good
5. Variable Zooming on 4K video is really good.
6. S23 Ultra case can still be used.
7. Faster and more efficient Qualcom chip.
8. Higher resale value for S24 Ultra.
9. Future WiFi 7 ready
I was already adding S24 U to the shopping cart today. But I realized that I made it S23 U and I started to think.. no sense. I'm waiting for the S25 Ultra.
What really annoys me is people still say the pixel 8 pro has an exynos when it doesn't. It is kinda weird they keep using a chip that people don't like in other countries. I think it's a big mistake to make people pay for AI and try to hide it at that. It's just apple level scummy. I really hope that Google stays with free AI features and just stays with the pro phone having most of the features, I'd rather that than having to pay a subscription for AI features. I'd rather pay a little more for a phone and get free AI features, no subscription.
I hear that I refuse to pay for AI your device was still operate if you don't pay for AI I would hope so😮
Samsung's loss of market share is pretty much self inflicted. That rumor that TM Roh is a double agent from a rival company sounds funny but might hold a little water.
Aren't they penny pitching as the saying goes...lol
( oops, pinching that is)
I think we have to understand that phones will not have major changes from now on. I am still surprised that people act so weird on that. They can not completely change the phone every year. The price has to do with how much your coin is worth in your country as well. Here the s24 ultra is even more expensive then in America and we also pay more for iPhones by the way. iPhone is still more expensive then the s24 ultra looking at the storage and that I receive the watch 6 LTE for free with it.
Did we all have a feeling that the s24ultra was going to be higher in price but not offer more 🤔 is sad. Makes me glad i jumped on the s23 ultra before samsumg increased the price. Im generally shocked 😲 about that increase because i feel like your not getting more except AI features.
I have an S23 with SD Gen 2 chip so wouldnt consider a 24 or S24+ with an Exynos chip that would be a backward step. The UK & Europe are being shortchanged, I suppose the sales stats will reveal all.
Can buy it online by the Canadian version can you use the Snapdragon gen 3 or you can buy the Samsung s24 Ultra that will have the right chipset it would just cost you a little bit more money I would not accept the exynos 2400 unless they give me the device for 100.00 tax included by the Canadian version of possible🇨🇦
In the markets where the s24 and s24plus are using the exynos chip, you're better off with the pixel 8 or 8 pro. Pixels have better cameras, better AI, cheaper even before discounts and we're already seeing discounts. Tensor G3 and exynos 2400 are the same chip. I'm waiting for the OnePlus 12, or waiting to see what Asus do with the ZenFone 11, rumour has it they maybe releaseing a plus/pro/ultra model along with the regular model.
I'm coming from the ZFold2 it's really the only reason I'm upgrading. But paying 500 or less for it isn't bad for me
Ill get the plus since there's a price increase on ultra
1299 = Titanium, Gorilla glass Amour, slightly better screen, SD 8G3 exclusivity and new telephoto cam. Price is high and I'm not sure its worth it as i don't care about AI, but i have a failing Note 20 Ultra so ill save and get the S24U during the year If the full reviews are favorable if they are not and i don't feel bougie S23U or maybe the Honor magic 6 pro they are doing interesting things.
I am still thinking if I should upgrade from the S22 Ultra.
Yes, much better battery and performing chip.