I'll just say this : the audacity and delusion of thinking that you've reached a level where you can comfortably say "we're planning to create 12 live service games" is insane not 1 or 2 mind you... 12
And they were all going to release within 3 years of that announcement. They've since cancelled 6 of them and obviously stretched out their release dates.
I assumed the intention was to throw out a bunch of them, expect most of them to fail, but hope one or two hit it big. Which seems like a huge gamble to me considering how much they spend making them. Also not exactly great for the developers of the 10 games that fail.
Concord is the biggest failure not just from PlayStation but out of any console maker. No console maker has ever launched a AAA game that only peaked at less than 700 players on launch day. Crazy to think about.
700 is on steam. Concord has 7.7k ratings on psn, and most people do not rate games. Still a trash game, but not quite as dead as people make it out to be.
@@Nizzle89 Yes, and is still performing over 10 times better than expected after that, as opposed to this game which performed like a million times worse than expected. And that's even after Sony massively mishandled the whole playstation online situation (and still haven't properly resolved it).
Yeah, I'm so tired of corporations like Sony focusing way to much on profits, and then they end up ruining their profits. I know companies need to make money, but I'm completely uninterest in live service games at this point, or any drm. I'm just tired of corporations altogether eroding consumer rights.
@@joeywalsh1949 stop. they are trying desperately NOT to please everyone. Actually they HATE everyone who isnt part of an almost non-existent tiny minority of crazy people
The funny thing is the developers and some of the media have been playing and streaming trying to get people interested. So how many of the 600 are developers and media. If you cut those people out of the equation nobody is playing. What a disaster.
The problem with live service games in particular is that if there's no hype, even people who are interested won't try it because they don't want to invest time or money into something that will shut down in a year. All the live service games that shut down last year have people skeptical.
Attacking and insulting your own customers is one of the weirdest modern Western trends. Concord developer thought the way to bolter a ridiculously bad launch was to call players "talentless freaks". Perhaps he should retake business 101.
Dawg you cannot catch a break, every single time you post something about "upcoming news" we get an official announcement like an hour later. This is fucking hysterical
With game development taking so long, it’s more important than ever to have a unique idea that will survive a 5-7 year development cycle and still be relevant
I'm glad to see new Live Services fail, let me tell you, the failure of Concord is just more proof that players don't want Live Service games, i would much rather play a Single Player game than play the same multiplayer day after day with constant updates, i would get bored of a Live Service before i see it all :)
Lmao, on the flip side, if players don’t want live service games, explain how Fortnite still generated 5 billion dollars in 2023 and Genshin Impact still made 900 million dollars? You can’t just look at Concord’s failure and conclude “players don’t want live service games” That is just outright BS. I don’t like live service games, but fact of the matter is, Concord’s failure will not dampen its overall impact. Live service is still well and truly alive.
No, people play plenty of live service games. Some examples were already mentioned. The game should be good though and that doesn't seem to be the case with Concord.
Out of the hundreds of millions of gamers out there (most of which are on mobile phones and not PC/consoles), the majority of them play live service games, and don't even touch singleplayer, microtransaction-less experiences. Concord flopped not because ppl don't want live service games but because ppl don't have time for other live service game and because the game's not very good. The live service market is saturated and most ppl play like the same 5-10 games and literally nothing else. Games like Fortnite, GTA Online, Call of Duty, Minecraft, Apex Legends, etc. are what could be considered black hole games because they suck up everyone's time. In fact, they're the primary reason as to why the gaming industry is struggling because kids are growing up conditioned to playing the same few games over and over again. Without these few live service games, then maybe more ppl would be playing singleplayer stuff
As a long time Crash fan that canceled game news pissed me off more than I expected it to. I now have another reason to hate live service games and COD specifically.
So we're almost 4 years into the 9th gen consoles that were marketed at 4K 60fps, and yet we're still getting games locked or mostly aimed at 30fps. So glad I moved to PC in 2020. Don't lock me to 30fps or an unstable 60ish, I'll just be on PC where I can actually choose the settings to determine my performance.
I´ve sad that Concord will be Dead on Arrival, and here we are. Firewalk Studios might get closed probably soon. Concord has 697 players as now. Gollum a single player game has 758.
I’m a huge Nintendo fan, and Nintendo Directs fill me with immense joy. However, what fills me with even more joy is when people predict a Direct and then Nintendo slaps them in the face with an Indie World/Partner Showcase
It still feels like Nintendo won over the leakers, even though it isn't a competition. Kinda like, you thought it was a Ninzendo Direct, but it was actually me, Partner Showcase!
I’m overjoyed. As far as my portfolio is concerned, I have had a great run with Sony over the last few years. Sony is still on par with Tesla, Nvidia and Tencent in terms of overall performance over the last 5-6 years. No time to paperhand. This is just a temporary blip. I have seen this movie before. Only the financially illiterate like you will think this is the end of the world scenario for Sony.
@@cbgg1585you know I've written something similar to this in a previous video and you came on and gave the same exact response. I really don't care LOL
@@cbgg1585 I don't think people expect this to be the end for Sony, on the contraire, what we want is for them to raise the bar and release better games, stop with the DEI, and go back to their wonderful single player experiences.
Valve makes games? I thought they made hardware, collected money/vigs from developers, sold user data, hogged your system resources, and twiddled their thumbs?
We need to take a step back as both consumers and developers when it comes to gaming. Devs need to start aiming for less visual fidelity and more/stable FPS, stop getting these actors with sizeable fees and us gamers need to relax with our gluttony for insane 4k visuals and constant need for new games. The quality of releases would likely increase if we did that. The quality of life for the devs would likely increase as well. Also stop going public with these gaming studios. Once you get investors in the mix, things just seem to go downhill nearly asap.
Regarding the long dev times, it feels like the planning stage for games (especially new IPs) needs to be longer to make sure the concepts stand on their own. Concord feels like it could have been a decent game had they actually focused on creating a solid foundation instead of chasing a trend.
The extremist progressive audience they are targeting are the ones who don't play video games, except maybe candy crush or monopoly go (which is poppin off right now)
These companies keep making shooter co-op games, what about RPGs or just action in general. There's always been a lack of RPG co-op games defo on consoles.
“Performance is one of the last things we figure out, right?” No, that is literally one of the first. Then you build your game targeting that metric. What an incompetent fool
The problem is John that you don't understand polls. People will vote regardless. You need a third option of basically no or not playing those games because your poll will never be close to correct if you don't.
It wouldnt surprise me that most of Black Myth's sales stems from China, but its not a bad thing at all. In fact, it shows that there is a strong market for games in China, and rich stories to be told based on Chinese mythology. Quite frankly, Black Myth deserves the success and hope more Chinese myths are further explored with branching genres and the like.
they're either Nintendo fans who play nothing but, old heads who can't keep up with new multiplayer games, or just plain old hypocrites lmfao. Same guys who preorder CoD after saying the last game was terrible
Jon - consumers do not care about FPS when considering a purchase - it’s the game itself that matters. Pokémon sells more than any other IP and, well… need I say more?
I know it's easy to be elitist about this but if we're being honest 30 FPS is fine for most games. It's an RPG, not a fast-paced shooter or fighting game. Movies are still usually shown at 24 FPS.
Most don’t, but I’ve avoided Dragon’s Dogma 2 and the latest Pokémon game because of it. I know most consumers may not notice, but it must affect sales somewhat.
@@fishingmule3266 Both sold incredibly well so the impact is minimal at best. Granted, the performance issues all-around for Pokémon S/V will impact the next games sales without a doubt. Gamefreak has sewn distrust in their consumer base.
I can understand fidelity mode on a bigger screen but if you prefer or are restricted to a 32" or less you don't really notice any pixel issues when switching to performance so it makes the decision a lot easier. And you can still easily play from a couch with 32" depending on the room size. That's my experience with a handful of games, including FFVII Rebirth on sharp performance mode. Although there aren't many TVs that do 4K at this size.
Man the 60 fps argument with the devs is complete BS. All games start with graphics/fidelity mode by default when you first start and play them unless you go to settings and fix everything to your liking before you play like me. These devs are just scum, greedy and lazy especially the west. Most actual gamers prefer 60-120 fps as the standard anyway and it is almost 2025 I don't see why that isn't the case already. just shameful and shady what these companies do
Can we please stop even bothering to look at critic scores anymore? We know they are paid to pad their reviews favorably. When there is a 64 point disconnect between user scores and critic scores you know there is a deep problem with the critic scores and they should not be utilized in any capacity other than calling them out for rampant corruption.
I feel like ”creative vision” gets a bit misunderstood with regards to framerate. The creative vision could be the visual style decoupled from the framerate, and settling for 30FPS is what it took to reach that vision. Of course when marketing the game it can sound better if it’s a ”deliberate cinematic 24FPS”.
I just pray that Sony takes the right message from this, that core gamers don't want first party live service games, we want first party AAA single player games. But i fear they'll blame it solely on the price tag and try again. If they do the latter, i hope every live service game they try, fails...
Speak for yourself. I have NO interest in SOYNY's overpriced Ubislop hybrid wannabe movie simulators. Most of their single-player output has been absolute trash. If slop like Sider-mid 2 and David Cage trash is what SOYNY loses hundreds of millions on; then they can shove it.
@@ZombiAstralI mean, it's a major reason the PS has been so successful and whooped Xbox for so long. He's not talking for you. It's not even a debate. Some of them are GoTY, were bestsellers, and became successful franchises despite you not liking them. Sony just saw the huge amounts of money being made on live services and wanted a piece. But it's very hard to get a live service right and it's a crowded market now.
@@ZombiAstral it doesn't matter if you like it or not. Sonys core fans bought PS for their single player AAA games. Thats why we love Sony. The more casual fans play MP games. The problem is this game appealed to neither. And Sony is finding this out the hard way...
Maybe Sony should employ a "freshness checker" or something for their live service games? Like everyone and their mom can tell you Overwatch and the hero shooter is kind of on its way out, but they still plowed ahead with Concord like it wasn't four years out of date?
8 years one of the 6 non cancelled live service games by Jim Ryan if I was Sony I would do anything to salvage the company for his disastrous decisions when he was CEO
Mate, Sony was one of my top performers in terms of financial growth alongside Tesla, Nvidia and Tencent during Ryan’s reign as far as my equities portfolio is/was concerned. Ryan did his job. He generated the profits and I couldn’t be happier as a 12 year Sony investor. The returns I saw was more than exceptional. You didn’t benefit financially, so naturally it is little wonder why you’re full of salt. 🤣
@@cbgg1585 The sunk cost fallacy is real. Little Timmy feels obligated to bootlick since he's financially and emotionally invested. It was a waste, keep seething
Are you sure, that players will accept any dip in graphical quality to get a 60 fps performance mode. I can remember that with Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, players started complaining about the graphical quality of the performance mode. But then again I haven't experienced that game for myself.
Why do the devs ignore the 40/45/50FPS targets? Simply because those aren't buzzwordy? Any game at 40FPS would feel SO MUCH SMOOTHER compared to 30. P.S. Crash 4 sold absolutely beautifully (5+ million) for a platformer in a dormant IP. Publisher's expectations were inadequate.
Rejoice, my children, a exciting week has begun, a make-or-break week for our pal PH Brazil: If we do get a Nintendo Direct or any other "special event" this week, then he's the champ and we really should pay attention to him. However, if nothing happens, then he's just full of $hit and we can write him off for good, he was already dead wrong when he said the Switch 2 was gonna get announced this past June...
Sony investing in live service games is an automatic shot in the foot, maybe both feet. I hope after Concord they take a real hard look at their roadmap and flat out cancel a bunch of projects and cut their losses.
After starfield, I wouldn't be surprised if they release an update for avowed that unlocks the framerate and xbox just pissed off their community again for no reason
Nah.. Switch's current lineup is The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom, Super Mario Party: Jamboree, Mario & Luigi: Brothership, DKC Returns HD, Meroid Prime 4: Beyond, and Pokemon Legends ZA... with a nice mix of interesting third-party stuff like Epic Micky: Rebrushed, Horizon Lego Adventures, the Dragon Quest remakes, etc w/ more to come... so there will be plenty to play on Switch this Q4... everyone is in such a rush... Nov-Jan Switch 2 reveal/ teaser ... March blowout event ... June launch... that is my guess...
You don't have to be an "insider" to know Nintendo will be doing a Direct of some sort around this time each year. Same applies to late Feb/March and June time frames. It's how Nintendo operates.
For me, I don’t really care about framerate in games, whether it’s 60 or 30. As long as the frame pacing is smooth and the game is comfortable to play, I’m good with either.
Same for me. 30 is perfectly acceptable. It's even preferable over 60 when it's consistently dipping between 45 and 60. And outside of playing multiplayer online higher frame rates are really necessary. It's nice, sure, but like you said stability is nicer.
How many live service games have to fail (Concord, Suicide squad, Anthem, ect..) and single player games like Black Myth Wukong have to succeed before these game publishers & companies get the hint?
Until either they finish and release the game they started to later fail or they outright cancel the game with the possibility that it would just kill the studio which is happening more than it should. The higher ups only want money for the least amount of effort, live service game let them in some sort do that, but they dont take into account that the game is only alive until people stop playing it or the servers get closed, this is not a problem for single player game, they might not sell well in the beginning, but will still generate money on the long run
No, what Firewalk Studios needs to do for their next game is stop referring to their own fanbase as talentless freaks and actually see them as customers. Yes. A person that worked on the game actually said this on Twitter/X. Also, pretty sure some of that 600+ players were Sony Developers because they had teams out claiming to be playing it.
Concord shows how bad Sony has strategized this console era. They were a great single player story driven games company but instead they spent 8 years developing a live service game that is 7 years too late on that wave.
Maybe if it was a single story game with multiplayer with it. Maybe it would have done better. Black proves gamers want more story driven games with good gameplay and it fun to play and you sell 10million in 3 days. 😂😅
Concord needed advertising. The first news about it was bad news about people not playing the Beta. Honestly after the low Beta turn out Sony should have shelved it and went back to the drawing board. Maybe rethought how they were going to launch the game. Maybe if Concord would have had a full campaign and the multiplayer was just a bonus with no season passes but maybe a handful of DLC costumes, maybe people might have cared. But it just felt like another season pass cash grab game.
Concord should’ve been for you to play if someone was going to try and push this. Not to mention I’ve barely seen any promotion for it at all. They’re really shitin the bed this time.
John always talks about how he think a direct might happen on a given week and then coincidentally Nintendo makes an announcement that same day mmmmmmm he must have some great sources
*Spawnwave* - _Talks about rumored direct_
15 mins later
*Nintendo* - _Time to announce the next direct_
Tale as old as time jaja
When you guess a direct is coming every video, you're bound to get it right eventually
@@binchillin888 SW only talked about a possibe Direct once, maybe twice, this month.
Lmao 🤣 i always like when this happens
nintendo announced two directs
I'll just say this :
the audacity and delusion of thinking that you've reached a level where you can comfortably say "we're planning to create 12 live service games" is insane
not 1 or 2 mind you... 12
classic Sony to be fair, it probably won't be their only blunder while they're leading the industry
And they were all going to release within 3 years of that announcement. They've since cancelled 6 of them and obviously stretched out their release dates.
@@mbern4530I think six will be seven within a few weeks lol
I assumed the intention was to throw out a bunch of them, expect most of them to fail, but hope one or two hit it big.
Which seems like a huge gamble to me considering how much they spend making them. Also not exactly great for the developers of the 10 games that fail.
@@Psyk60 That is my guess too. If they can find their own version of Fortnite they will consider it money well spent.
Concord is the biggest failure not just from PlayStation but out of any console maker. No console maker has ever launched a AAA game that only peaked at less than 700 players on launch day. Crazy to think about.
700 is on steam. Concord has 7.7k ratings on psn, and most people do not rate games. Still a trash game, but not quite as dead as people make it out to be.
@@someguy8070 It didn't show up on the top 10 most played games on their own store page so it didn't do too well.
Meanwhile Helldivers 2:
@@sinteleonlost 90% of its players
@@Nizzle89 Yes, and is still performing over 10 times better than expected after that, as opposed to this game which performed like a million times worse than expected. And that's even after Sony massively mishandled the whole playstation online situation (and still haven't properly resolved it).
By the time Sony moves on to another live-service game, Firewalk studios will all be at the unemployment line.
Just a reminder that putting a timestamp of 00:00 does not work and breaks your chapters. Please stop using it.
12 live service games with 5+ year dev times.
Jim Ryan pretty much ruined the PS5 generation for Sony
Yeah, I'm so tired of corporations like Sony focusing way to much on profits, and then they end up ruining their profits. I know companies need to make money, but I'm completely uninterest in live service games at this point, or any drm. I'm just tired of corporations altogether eroding consumer rights.
Tell me about it.
[bleep] Jim Ryan.
Hopefully things will get better with him gone. Sadly, we'll still need to wade through the BS plans he initiated and haven't released yet.
Now would be the perfect time for an out-of-left-field Nintendo announcement like the N64 Mini
That would be pretty big news! Though I'm holding out for the Analogue 3D.
Nah, how about 2 directs for tomorrow: one for indie world and the other for partner showcase! (Yes this is real)
Nintendo will make you buy all your games over again.
YES
It’s time for ten more Directs before the year ends.
How do you spend 8 years on a game and not make a single visual memorable character?
You know why.
When you try to please everyone you end up pleasing no one.
I think the character designs are fantastic. It’s the copy paste game type that no one wants
@@joeywalsh1949 stop. they are trying desperately NOT to please everyone. Actually they HATE everyone who isnt part of an almost non-existent tiny minority of crazy people
Character designs are neat. big robot guy is fun.
The funny thing is the developers and some of the media have been playing and streaming trying to get people interested. So how many of the 600 are developers and media. If you cut those people out of the equation nobody is playing. What a disaster.
I keep thinking what the hell they got in their to develop a game nobody asked for while fans are asking for a Bloodborne sequel or another.
Well, they didn't develop it. They just bought the company itself, and then funded, and marketed it.
On steam, Concord has less all time peak than Gollum. Gollum won the argument.
Where do you see that? Steam charts show Gollum at about 500, and concord at 660
They literally show the numbers in the video.
You blind and deaf?
Nevermind I should have watched the whole video first. Weird that it shows differently for me though.
@@randylahey77 I just looked and Gollum all time peak was 758 on May 22nd 2023
wow oh my god didnt know it was this bad but am kinda glad people want more normal single player games
About 15 minutes ago (4:15 p.m.) a Nintendo Direct + Indie World was announced for tomorrow, August 27, 2024
Do you think that means just indie games or will they announce other stuff . In your opinion
@@spicy_ctrlo7132 it says Nintendo Direct (Partner Showcase) + Indie World.
so I would assume that it will be a longer Direct than normal
PH Brazil are the GOATs.
@@spicy_ctrlo7132 it's also a partner showcase, so I guess there are big studios included. No first party though.
Indie? No one cares for that, Nintendo has lost me over the last year
As a Spyro fan, my heart broke when I saw that "Did you know gaming" video... Activision was awful to TFB....
Black Myth Wukong is successful
Concord is a failure
Some pleasant news on a Monday morning
Wukong is so fun!!
Nintendo Partner Direct just announced for tomorrow lol
Imagine making characters so bad that even the people who wanna sleep with a bear in BG3 don't want to buy your game.
I do most of my gaming on the steam deck so 30 FPS is fine.
60 is nice to have, but far from a requirement
The amount of people reporting on Concord is higher than the player count.
Go w0ke get broke.
The problem with live service games in particular is that if there's no hype, even people who are interested won't try it because they don't want to invest time or money into something that will shut down in a year. All the live service games that shut down last year have people skeptical.
I think people play the waiting game when they have to pay 40 bucks.
Non-Gamers running gaming companies is always fun to watch.
The only console that should be running 30 fps is the switch
Attacking and insulting your own customers is one of the weirdest modern Western trends.
Concord developer thought the way to bolter a ridiculously bad launch was to call players "talentless freaks". Perhaps he should retake business 101.
Any business that does that _deserves_ to fail and shutter.
Hell, anyone who pulls that crap (for any reason) deserves to go to *JAIL!*
Former devs.. not the call from the studio
Dawg you cannot catch a break, every single time you post something about "upcoming news" we get an official announcement like an hour later. This is fucking hysterical
It's because he records these the day before.
With game development taking so long, it’s more important than ever to have a unique idea that will survive a 5-7 year development cycle and still be relevant
You know it’s a terrible launch if Jon is making fun of it
Who's Jon? Wait is his name Jon? He doesn't look like a Jon 😂
@@ONEWAYLEEWAYit’s Jon spawn wave
@@christianr.5868 🤣 He looks more like a Terrance or Pip to me. But i'll take your word for it haha
@@ONEWAYLEEWAY new here?
Our boys name isn't Pip! It's Jon!
Thanks for covering my video, dude!
I'm glad to see new Live Services fail, let me tell you, the failure of Concord is just more proof that players don't want Live Service games, i would much rather play a Single Player game than play the same multiplayer day after day with constant updates, i would get bored of a Live Service before i see it all :)
Lmao, on the flip side, if players don’t want live service games, explain how Fortnite still generated 5 billion dollars in 2023 and Genshin Impact still made 900 million dollars?
You can’t just look at Concord’s failure and conclude “players don’t want live service games”
That is just outright BS. I don’t like live service games, but fact of the matter is, Concord’s failure will not dampen its overall impact.
Live service is still well and truly alive.
No, people play plenty of live service games. Some examples were already mentioned. The game should be good though and that doesn't seem to be the case with Concord.
Out of the hundreds of millions of gamers out there (most of which are on mobile phones and not PC/consoles), the majority of them play live service games, and don't even touch singleplayer, microtransaction-less experiences.
Concord flopped not because ppl don't want live service games but because ppl don't have time for other live service game and because the game's not very good.
The live service market is saturated and most ppl play like the same 5-10 games and literally nothing else. Games like Fortnite, GTA Online, Call of Duty, Minecraft, Apex Legends, etc. are what could be considered black hole games because they suck up everyone's time. In fact, they're the primary reason as to why the gaming industry is struggling because kids are growing up conditioned to playing the same few games over and over again. Without these few live service games, then maybe more ppl would be playing singleplayer stuff
@@ruor1984 Hardcore gamers certainly don't want them
@@James-gj8rnyes they do kid statistics says otherwise bud
As a long time Crash fan that canceled game news pissed me off more than I expected it to. I now have another reason to hate live service games and COD specifically.
Let that serve as motivation for you to get COD shut down.
Oh, quelle surprise. Concord isn't doing so well. Who would have guessed?
I ALWAYS choose performance mode over fidelity. I’ll put it in fidelity mode to see what it looks like but right back to performance mode.
So we're almost 4 years into the 9th gen consoles that were marketed at 4K 60fps, and yet we're still getting games locked or mostly aimed at 30fps. So glad I moved to PC in 2020. Don't lock me to 30fps or an unstable 60ish, I'll just be on PC where I can actually choose the settings to determine my performance.
I´ve sad that Concord will be Dead on Arrival, and here we are.
Firewalk Studios might get closed probably soon.
Concord has 697 players as now.
Gollum a single player game has 758.
Concord is DOA...
Kinda like you
@@Im-ugly-AFyou one of the 600 players? 😂
I love dead or alive 😛 can I play as Bass Armstrong?
Concord is DEI 😂
Like the entire PS5 tbh
I’m a huge Nintendo fan, and Nintendo Directs fill me with immense joy. However, what fills me with even more joy is when people predict a Direct and then Nintendo slaps them in the face with an Indie World/Partner Showcase
It still feels like Nintendo won over the leakers, even though it isn't a competition.
Kinda like, you thought it was a Ninzendo Direct, but it was actually me, Partner Showcase!
I hope Sony's shareholders are happy LOL
I’m overjoyed. As far as my portfolio is concerned, I have had a great run with Sony over the last few years. Sony is still on par with Tesla, Nvidia and Tencent in terms of overall performance over the last 5-6 years.
No time to paperhand. This is just a temporary blip. I have seen this movie before. Only the financially illiterate like you will think this is the end of the world scenario for Sony.
@@cbgg1585only sped people would think it’s the end of the world for Sony lmao but still
@@cbgg1585you know I've written something similar to this in a previous video and you came on and gave the same exact response. I really don't care LOL
@@cbgg1585 I don't think people expect this to be the end for Sony, on the contraire, what we want is for them to raise the bar and release better games, stop with the DEI, and go back to their wonderful single player experiences.
They're fabulous prancing around in dresses
Valve makes games?
I thought they made hardware, collected money/vigs from developers, sold user data, hogged your system resources, and twiddled their thumbs?
Round of applause for Jim Ryan's crusade for the Games as Service
He was an awful ceo. Thankfully he's gone although it'll take a while to right all the wrong decisions made during his time🤞
I knew I hated that guy for a reason.
Not one male pale character.and people say representation is so important.
Heritage Auction is a money laundering front.
All auction houses are.
Not only money laundering, they are a literal scam, artificially hiking prices by buying overpriced rated games
everything is a fucking scam nowadays.
We need to take a step back as both consumers and developers when it comes to gaming. Devs need to start aiming for less visual fidelity and more/stable FPS, stop getting these actors with sizeable fees and us gamers need to relax with our gluttony for insane 4k visuals and constant need for new games. The quality of releases would likely increase if we did that. The quality of life for the devs would likely increase as well.
Also stop going public with these gaming studios. Once you get investors in the mix, things just seem to go downhill nearly asap.
10:05 like fine wine 😅
Regarding the long dev times, it feels like the planning stage for games (especially new IPs) needs to be longer to make sure the concepts stand on their own. Concord feels like it could have been a decent game had they actually focused on creating a solid foundation instead of chasing a trend.
What? Concord is underperforming? But surely they have their modern audience to support them… right?
It’s safe to say the modern audience they want to appeal consists of 1k
The extremist progressive audience they are targeting are the ones who don't play video games, except maybe candy crush or monopoly go (which is poppin off right now)
@@Ironically-Sarcastic extremist progressive audience? Wtf are you talking about?
@@SquiLLs I dunno bro, but people are liking my comment 😂
These companies keep making shooter co-op games, what about RPGs or just action in general. There's always been a lack of RPG co-op games defo on consoles.
“Performance is one of the last things we figure out, right?”
No, that is literally one of the first. Then you build your game targeting that metric. What an incompetent fool
15:43 then why allow PC to do 60 FPS? If you have consoles forced at 30 it’s hypocritical.
That’s what am always saying.
Lazyness like every xbox release. But they will patch a 60fps mode later like redfall, starfield, etc
The problem is John that you don't understand polls. People will vote regardless. You need a third option of basically no or not playing those games because your poll will never be close to correct if you don't.
It wouldnt surprise me that most of Black Myth's sales stems from China, but its not a bad thing at all. In fact, it shows that there is a strong market for games in China, and rich stories to be told based on Chinese mythology. Quite frankly, Black Myth deserves the success and hope more Chinese myths are further explored with branching genres and the like.
I like how there's so many comments in here saying that nobody wants live service games when Deadlock is popping off.
they're either Nintendo fans who play nothing but, old heads who can't keep up with new multiplayer games, or just plain old hypocrites lmfao. Same guys who preorder CoD after saying the last game was terrible
@archonthaaproducer ... well when most of your friends still play them you kinda just join?
Getting real tired of all these Microsoft games releasing on what they advertised as "the most powerful console" and they cant hit 60fps.
Jon - consumers do not care about FPS when considering a purchase - it’s the game itself that matters. Pokémon sells more than any other IP and, well… need I say more?
for me, as long as the frame rate is consistent and not constantly changing, I usually don't care.
I know it's easy to be elitist about this but if we're being honest 30 FPS is fine for most games. It's an RPG, not a fast-paced shooter or fighting game.
Movies are still usually shown at 24 FPS.
Most don’t, but I’ve avoided Dragon’s Dogma 2 and the latest Pokémon game because of it. I know most consumers may not notice, but it must affect sales somewhat.
@@fishingmule3266 Both sold incredibly well so the impact is minimal at best. Granted, the performance issues all-around for Pokémon S/V will impact the next games sales without a doubt. Gamefreak has sewn distrust in their consumer base.
@@VitalVampyr it is fine. There is no need to push games to 4k/60 because consumers don’t care. If they did, then most games wouldn’t sell at all.
Crash and Spyro crossover? Brings me back to Crash Purple and Spyro Orange.
Just sad Black Myth Wukong does not have a physical release all on disc... I surely hope those numbers will bring the developper to release one ASAP.
Limited run games or play asia will make it
@@BansheeN0rnnot limited run games...
@@BansheeN0rnLRG is ass
I live in Canada, and I have a physical release of Black Myth Wukong.
@@Mitch93636no you don’t
The problem with Concord is all the footage is Run, Jump, Circle, Shoot. That doesn’t look fun at all.
Concord fail, Dustborn flop and The Acolyte canceled. All that in a single week! Glorious!
I can understand fidelity mode on a bigger screen but if you prefer or are restricted to a 32" or less you don't really notice any pixel issues when switching to performance so it makes the decision a lot easier. And you can still easily play from a couch with 32" depending on the room size. That's my experience with a handful of games, including FFVII Rebirth on sharp performance mode. Although there aren't many TVs that do 4K at this size.
Remember fellas:
If the Nintendo Direct didn't happen, it's not a hoax but just "Plans Have Changed"
If it happens I'm gonna come back to this comment and laugh at you
@@NecroBanana If it's an actual Direct, I'll accept the tomato and laughter.
@@NecroBanana but Nintendo already announced the --tree house-- indie direct for the --Zelda-- indie games.
@@Foun_D_OnePiecedepends on who you ask, but a tree house isn’t a direct…
Truly the Dave Meltzer of video game leaks lol.
Man the 60 fps argument with the devs is complete BS. All games start with graphics/fidelity mode by default when you first start and play them unless you go to settings and fix everything to your liking before you play like me. These devs are just scum, greedy and lazy especially the west. Most actual gamers prefer 60-120 fps as the standard anyway and it is almost 2025 I don't see why that isn't the case already. just shameful and shady what these companies do
Wow Tumblrcord failed? color me surprised.
Just a reminder that Sony canceled both TLOU Factions MP AND the Twisted Metal project.
Can we please stop even bothering to look at critic scores anymore? We know they are paid to pad their reviews favorably. When there is a 64 point disconnect between user scores and critic scores you know there is a deep problem with the critic scores and they should not be utilized in any capacity other than calling them out for rampant corruption.
I feel like ”creative vision” gets a bit misunderstood with regards to framerate. The creative vision could be the visual style decoupled from the framerate, and settling for 30FPS is what it took to reach that vision. Of course when marketing the game it can sound better if it’s a ”deliberate cinematic 24FPS”.
I just pray that Sony takes the right message from this, that core gamers don't want first party live service games, we want first party AAA single player games. But i fear they'll blame it solely on the price tag and try again. If they do the latter, i hope every live service game they try, fails...
Speak for yourself. I have NO interest in SOYNY's overpriced Ubislop hybrid wannabe movie simulators. Most of their single-player output has been absolute trash. If slop like Sider-mid 2 and David Cage trash is what SOYNY loses hundreds of millions on; then they can shove it.
@@ZombiAstralChill out bro
That's not the "right message " lol
@@ZombiAstralI mean, it's a major reason the PS has been so successful and whooped Xbox for so long. He's not talking for you. It's not even a debate. Some of them are GoTY, were bestsellers, and became successful franchises despite you not liking them.
Sony just saw the huge amounts of money being made on live services and wanted a piece. But it's very hard to get a live service right and it's a crowded market now.
@@ZombiAstral it doesn't matter if you like it or not. Sonys core fans bought PS for their single player AAA games. Thats why we love Sony. The more casual fans play MP games. The problem is this game appealed to neither. And Sony is finding this out the hard way...
Maybe Sony should employ a "freshness checker" or something for their live service games? Like everyone and their mom can tell you Overwatch and the hero shooter is kind of on its way out, but they still plowed ahead with Concord like it wasn't four years out of date?
8 years one of the 6 non cancelled live service games by Jim Ryan if I was Sony I would do anything to salvage the company for his disastrous decisions when he was CEO
Mate, Sony was one of my top performers in terms of financial growth alongside Tesla, Nvidia and Tencent during Ryan’s reign as far as my equities portfolio is/was concerned.
Ryan did his job. He generated the profits and I couldn’t be happier as a 12 year Sony investor. The returns I saw was more than exceptional.
You didn’t benefit financially, so naturally it is little wonder why you’re full of salt. 🤣
@@cbgg1585 The sunk cost fallacy is real. Little Timmy feels obligated to bootlick since he's financially and emotionally invested. It was a waste, keep seething
Are you sure, that players will accept any dip in graphical quality to get a 60 fps performance mode. I can remember that with Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, players started complaining about the graphical quality of the performance mode. But then again I haven't experienced that game for myself.
The game will be free to play next month and the servers will be disconnected in a few months.
This already aged beautifully.
Modern audience :P
Why do the devs ignore the 40/45/50FPS targets? Simply because those aren't buzzwordy? Any game at 40FPS would feel SO MUCH SMOOTHER compared to 30.
P.S. Crash 4 sold absolutely beautifully (5+ million) for a platformer in a dormant IP. Publisher's expectations were inadequate.
Rejoice, my children, a exciting week has begun, a make-or-break week for our pal PH Brazil: If we do get a Nintendo Direct or any other "special event" this week, then he's the champ and we really should pay attention to him. However, if nothing happens, then he's just full of $hit and we can write him off for good, he was already dead wrong when he said the Switch 2 was gonna get announced this past June...
Amen, hail the Ostrich
So then why trust him again.. also i’m sure he’s content with all the attention he’s already gotten
Arent you just randomly speculating under every spawnwave video either and posing things as facts?
There should be a block button on here
Don't be so hasty about this, buddy! If the Direct didn't happen, it's just that "plans have changed" and we'll get that presentation at a later date!
So how many of these live service games are left, how many were/are a success, and how many single-player games could have been made with this $?
Sony investing in live service games is an automatic shot in the foot, maybe both feet. I hope after Concord they take a real hard look at their roadmap and flat out cancel a bunch of projects and cut their losses.
After starfield, I wouldn't be surprised if they release an update for avowed that unlocks the framerate and xbox just pissed off their community again for no reason
Come on Nintendo, it's time to reveal the new hardware. 🙄
Nah.. Switch's current lineup is The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom, Super Mario Party: Jamboree, Mario & Luigi: Brothership, DKC Returns HD, Meroid Prime 4: Beyond, and Pokemon Legends ZA... with a nice mix of interesting third-party stuff like Epic Micky: Rebrushed, Horizon Lego Adventures, the Dragon Quest remakes, etc w/ more to come... so there will be plenty to play on Switch this Q4... everyone is in such a rush... Nov-Jan Switch 2 reveal/ teaser ... March blowout event ... June launch... that is my guess...
Nintendo’s not go to reveal the new hardware just because you selfish, impatient and entitled gamers want them to
@Adamtendo_player_1 which part of their question is selfish?
You don't have to be an "insider" to know Nintendo will be doing a Direct of some sort around this time each year. Same applies to late Feb/March and June time frames. It's how Nintendo operates.
*Note:*
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Just thought I'd share. Do with that information what you will. 🤷🏾♂️
As usual, Nintendo continues the tradition of waiting for the Spawn Wave video to come out and announcing the direct after the video is out. 😆
For me, I don’t really care about framerate in games, whether it’s 60 or 30. As long as the frame pacing is smooth and the game is comfortable to play, I’m good with either.
Same for me. 30 is perfectly acceptable. It's even preferable over 60 when it's consistently dipping between 45 and 60. And outside of playing multiplayer online higher frame rates are really necessary. It's nice, sure, but like you said stability is nicer.
Yeah, a lot of people don't know how important frame pacing actually is.
People need to watch more digital foundry
Yeah, I prefer frame rates that are smooth myself.
I played Dragon's Dogma 2 on PS5 and had an amazing time with it.
That Crash and Spyro game sounds amazing
How many live service games have to fail (Concord, Suicide squad, Anthem, ect..) and single player games like Black Myth Wukong have to succeed before these game publishers & companies get the hint?
Until either they finish and release the game they started to later fail or they outright cancel the game with the possibility that it would just kill the studio which is happening more than it should. The higher ups only want money for the least amount of effort, live service game let them in some sort do that, but they dont take into account that the game is only alive until people stop playing it or the servers get closed, this is not a problem for single player game, they might not sell well in the beginning, but will still generate money on the long run
No, what Firewalk Studios needs to do for their next game is stop referring to their own fanbase as talentless freaks and actually see them as customers. Yes. A person that worked on the game actually said this on Twitter/X. Also, pretty sure some of that 600+ players were Sony Developers because they had teams out claiming to be playing it.
Concord shows how bad Sony has strategized this console era. They were a great single player story driven games company but instead they spent 8 years developing a live service game that is 7 years too late on that wave.
Maybe it’s time to let people who care about games run the industry more instead of shareholders. Let them just collect the profit, not make decisions
Nintendo just announced it’s a “Indie world” direct 😢
Nothing wrong with that
And a partner showcase
Games are games
I just want games like Locoroco, Patapon, and Gravity Rush. None of these live service garbage
Live Service Games are the future. Deal with it.
@@Mitch93636no they're not, they're clearly losing their steam
@Mitch93636 they really arent though
@@KenKaniff-dw4jwReal and Hardcore Gamers know for a FACT, that Live Service Games are the future.
For investors, yes. For consumers, no.@@Mitch93636
That State of Play GotG-esque CGI trailer killed Concord. No other way around it.
PH Brazil reports - I sleep.
Nate reports - Grabs popcorn.
hahaha
Maybe if it was a single story game with multiplayer with it. Maybe it would have done better. Black proves gamers want more story driven games with good gameplay and it fun to play and you sell 10million in 3 days. 😂😅
“Where’s the option for ‘I don’t care?’”
The comment section is for writing paragraphs about how little one cares.
I don't care is the thesis of this essay I'm about to write expressing how much I don't care.
Concord needed advertising. The first news about it was bad news about people not playing the Beta.
Honestly after the low Beta turn out Sony should have shelved it and went back to the drawing board. Maybe rethought how they were going to launch the game.
Maybe if Concord would have had a full campaign and the multiplayer was just a bonus with no season passes but maybe a handful of DLC costumes, maybe people might have cared.
But it just felt like another season pass cash grab game.
Concord will be free to play in a month
Its servers will be shut down in a month.
I swear I never saw not 1 promotion for "Concord"....
Okay Spawnwave is live. Now Nintendo can release the Direct announcement. 😂
You nailed it
Already did 😂😂
If every game was 60fps. People would just complain that it's not 120fps
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Concord should’ve been for you to play if someone was going to try and push this. Not to mention I’ve barely seen any promotion for it at all. They’re really shitin the bed this time.
Concord now has 154 players in game on Steam, it was 131 an hour ago. 🙃
RedFall had a peak 6124 players at launch.
🦀🦀
dats a start
How many on PlayStation? Cuz I can find a match
😂. Thought that game was free to play. What's gives. 😂
John always talks about how he think a direct might happen on a given week and then coincidentally Nintendo makes an announcement that same day mmmmmmm he must have some great sources
Sonys gonna close that studio once they are done with the game. They lost 200M! That’s insane.
Its not their studio, they don't own the game, they don't own the IP. Sony offered to publish Fire Walk Studios game that is literally it
@@lutherheggs451Sony purchased Firewalk in 2023. So, no, they're not just publishing the game-they own the studio and are absorbing its losses.
@@lutherheggs451firewalk is now a first party Sony studio. Bought around 2021
I think you nailed it. Concord will jump to PS+ soon. They can't do it just yet people the 12 people who bought it would probably be pissed, but yeah.