We Drive the New Gen4 Coyote Crate Engine from Ford Performance! Dual or Single Throttle Body!
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- Ford Performance gives us an exclusive look at the Gen4 and Gen4X 5.0 Coyote Crate engines, including horsepower, cost and what EFI systems will run it.
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Gotta love the legendary 5.0L Coyote V8.
IMO the Coyote engine is doing for Ford what the Small Block has done for Chevy.
13 years is legendary? 😂
@@machdaddy6451 Correct
@Olds_Pwr Yep you got it brother
@@Olds_Pwrdominating at the strip since 2011, yes 😊
Thanks for the update. Fomoco continues to be the leader in factory performance
Thanks for bringing us the good stuff.
I would love to have that 66 Fairlane on the poster. We had a 67 Fairlane Wagon when I was young and later in high school I helped my best friend rebuild his small block in a 66 - 67 Fairlane.
Good memories!
That 4X be perfect for my 96 F-150
Love that Coyote 5.0! Always very strong and love that Coyote sound! My favorite channel for a Ford content!
What me and all my Ford power forever friends is Ford to let us be able to tune the gen4 because we have gotten spoiled with the great HP we have able to get from the gen 123 versions of the great coyote engines thank you Evan for all the great content always keep on bringing it for all of us Ford power forever baby guys and girls
That's what the 4X will allow you to do: Gen4 engine on a Gen3 controller.
No, it’s because of these communist Nazi climate jackasses they don’t want you to have a V-8 and don’t want you to tune
We have a good trying to set that up locally. Gen 3 pc on gen 4 motor
@@Spad68 Have fun!
I wish Ford would offer the legendary 5.0L Coyote V8 in the Ford Expedition as an option just like the F150.
@CJColvin. Ford has to limit the use of the Coyote V8 engines to balance their fleet mpg numbers along with their carbon emission numbers. One of the main reasons Dodge discontinued the Hemi besides it's terrible EPA and mpg numbers was Dodge's overusing it by putting it in most of their vehicles from the Challenger, Charger, Chrysler 300, jeeps, Rams and Durango with the only exception being the Pacifica. This cost Stellantis millions of dollars in mpg fines. Using it in a limited format keeps the Coyote available for future use in the Mustang and the F-150. Crate engines fall in a different category.
@@DWH300 True
@@CJColvinSo if you do the swap yourself, you're unlikely to see many more like it 👍🏻
@@twotrackjack2260 Correct
I would like to see a factory supercharged or twin turbo aluminum block 7.3 Godzilla. Maybe in the next GT500?
imagine still thinking about that engine
not gonna happen.
Best mustang content out there. Great job.
Thank you! Much appreciated.
Here’s a request to Ford Performance: Please please PLEASE make a DOHC performance version of the old SOHC 6.2L. And make go fast parts for the 6.2L.
Never gonna happen.
@@B49nope I know this. But still.
That would be awesome.
Glad to see ford stepping up it's game
Ford, Bring back the Boss 351C
I worked for Roush over there for a few years in mid 2010s. There’s so much cool Ford engineering going on in that area
Hopefully for will make the control pack with a tach output. Would make life so much easier
If you've met Ford friends in this area, and gotten a ride in something with a manufacturer plate. This captures that vibe perfectly! Thanks for taking me back.
Evan another great video, I just wanted to take time to thank you for all you do and have done in the past for the racing and performance community, much respect for you and wanted to take time to tell you , appreciate you
Thanks Terry, much appreciated.
super charged Godzilla crate with trans package and 4x4 transfer case any new straight axles front and rear for off-road performance
This would be a really great for an old school F100 or even a Mercury M100 as well as 67 Meteor Rideau 500 2 door fast back.
Thanks for the up date on the Coyote I have in my GT love it
Remember the power packs from Ford motorsports? Would love to be able to buy one for my 2024, they make the cars pretty nasty after you flash the computer with the Ford Motorsport tune.... I had it on my 17 and I had it on the 21 and I love them.
That mule care is CLEAN !!!!💎
😁
Love the Coyote but it's not just about buying the engine. If you're swapping into an earlier car or truck the peripherals (oil pan, air box/ducting, exhaust system, cooling system, fuel system, etc.) easily add another $5k. That salvage yard Explorer pushrod 5.0 is starting to look pretty good.
Great Ford content as usual Evan...Did I read the engine specs right? Did Ford switch to a Kevlar belt in this next generation Coyote engine to function the oil pump?, Wow...Maybe you can do a story for the gearheads on billet oil pump gears which prevent engine harmonics when installing a supercharger that produces over 700 hp,and how the Kevlar belt came about.Could be very interesting.Keep up the good work!!!
Nice to know what's new in the Ford Performance world. That Hertz Shelby is hotter than hell.
Great job Ford Performance but Need to get tuning unlocked for gen4 5.0l and 2023 f150 3.5l love my 2023 f150 3.5, but the skip shift 1-3 shift sucks and it's dangerous pulling out of a street on a busy road and it skips to 3rd just hoping Ford is reading comments. Good job, Evan
Man, I'd love to see a next gen Voodoo engine. Even swap kit to with the essentials to swap a standard coyote over to flat plane crank. I love the rumble of the coyote but nothing makes me happier than ringing my engines neck up near 9k rpms. Especially on track days pulling up next to someone and still pulling past as they're switching gears.
Keep the Ford Performance video coming.
Are there any CARB legal options for swapping these Coyote's or even the Godzilla into older smog controlled OBD I or II platforms?
Very exciting 👍👍👍
Those tips are for test monitoring and in building exhaust evacuation tube's. Use to get to see alot of neat stuff at the Ford test track in naples Florida before they sold it to HD. Also saw some neat cycle stuff but that's 2 wheel weird things.
Thanks.
Awesome video REVan..did you get the KUNTZ poster .I haven't heard from you about it
I haven’t received anything.
Awesome 😎!
What I want. A front sump performance oil system for Godzilla swaps into early Mustangs!
All well and good untill the oil pump drive belt fails. BTW those exhaust tips have marmon flanges for quick hookup to chassis dyno instrumantation.
And how many have failed ?
@@Axeman428probably only a handful. Guys spewing shit out his ass. The gen 1 and 2 had decently rare oil pump gear problems, but those have been ironed out.
To you it doesnt matter what is a garbage design....it's the matter of when not if.
The flanges on the exhaust tips(?) are for hook-up to emissions testing equipment. I worked on the CAFE system as a contractor for Ford.
The Gen 4 Mustang Coyote do not utilize the truck Coyote belt. Mustang Coyote still uses the gear driven off of the crankshaft.
Evan is the Gen 4X speed density also like the new Gen4 S650 , or only mass-air like my Gen2 2017 GT. I’am surprise by installing longtube header only on the new S 650 mustang a few mustang owner’s was making 30 hp +. Thanks Evan.💪👍😎🇨🇦
Gen 4X is a mass air system. M-6017-M50HA is the auto control pack. M-6017-M50HM is the manual control pack.
So will the Gen 4 short block be interchangeable with different generation cylinder heads like the Gen 3 was? And in the truck short block the same as the Mustang even though it has DOD?
Current truck 21MY+ 5.0L short block is different than the Mustang short block. Gen 4 Mustang short block is interchangeble with previous generation heads.
Did the use a F&B mini bike exhaust for those tips?😂
Great video indeed! I’ve got questions, not introduced in the video, such as can the 6r80 automatic transmission work with these crate engines? I have a 2017 Roush Nitemare RCSB with the 6r and when the supercharged 4X crate engine becomes available, this swap is perfect for me.
Also, the supercharger make, wasn’t specified! Will the SC crate engine have the Whipple 3.0?
Yes you can!
Gen 4 doesn't matter until you can tune it.
When will tuning be available for s650’s?
Gen 4x seems like a Gen 3.5. And as for the Gen4, one can probably use a 87mm TB and block off the other TB port to be able to run MAF ecm.
Evan I wonder if you have any info about the coyote twin turbo Mustang that if I'm not mistaken ran some 6.20's and 6.30's at speeds of 216-220 MPH recently in a drag & drive event.
Does the gen4 fix the opg and cs issues from the past gens?
Nice. You answered my first question…can a ‘15 6R80 be swapped to a 10R80? Did they address the weak points though? OPG’s? Is this sleeved, forged rods/pistons? And is this 4X port/direct injection only? I may be asking too soon @ 7:00 in.
Basically the Gen 4X makes the same power and torque as the Gen 3.
Only difference is its locked down and you can't tune it lol. It's a step backwards.
He said you can tune the X
I am driving a Bone Stock 2022 Mach1 with the six speed manual. Any recommendations to give it some more zip.
Honestly, unless you’re going to supercharger I’d leave it alone. You can do headers, tune, CIA, etc but it’s a lot of money.
It uses a internal belt to run the oil pump.
I would love to see you do a video on a forced induction Godzilla engine ; that would be absolutely insane ! 👌👍
I'm doing a gen 4X Coyote in my 2010 Mustang GT
Drop it in a sport Trac Adrenaline AWD with the stock 6R80. I volunteer mine.
Are the pistons and rods upgraded compared to what's in a gen 3 coyote? If so how much power could this block take relatively safely?
I believe they are the same and people put blowers on all day and make 700-850 hp reliability. Of course, you could make 600, mistreat it and break the engine. Reliability always comes down to being responsible with tune and how you drive.
What about oil pump gears?
Get Lund on board . They are the only coyote tuners I trust.
Love the coyote but I wish ford would make a 3v ready for boost for those who don't want to do everything else that comes with a swap
I second that one!
Do these Gen 4 engines have the belt driven rear mounted oil pumps like the 21+ F150 coyotes or is it still the same as the Gen 3 with the front mount with no belt?
No belt
@@Lifeof728 👍🏼
Gear-driven pump on these.
Will the 2020 GT500 blower drop right on top
Yes
That rev hang was horrible when he was revving 😂
I actually told him to hold it and then rev it, then I realized someone would comment. The tune was perfect.
Does the gen4 crate engine have the rubber belt oil pump drive like the production engines? If so, is a hard pass for me!
Gear-driven pump like older Coyote in a Mustang.
With only 307 cubes, it would be nice if Ford could have taken it up to over 400.
That 4 valve motor would be insane with 400 CI’s, itd be awesome!!
I would love to see a drop in solution for all the F150s with terrible 4.6 & 5.4 engines. Love the trucks but not the engines, they need the 5.0l.
Ford, does a 5.0 CARB legal “e-Rod” package exist? I’m not seeing it. GM has a very nice offering and I would hope FORD could do the same. My 1980 fox Mustang needs smog legal V8 swap!
M-9000-M50AE is the 'Eco 5.0' package. Constrained on engines currently. Working on a solution.
Do all the gen 4 coyote engines have belt driven oil pumps?
No, these have a gear-driven oil pump.
Have they fixed the brittle opg problems that used to shatter under boosted builds with the previous gen coyotes?
Wonder if that would fit in my '64 without cutting up the shock towers?
I don’t believe it will. But a Godzilla will fit.
no way will it fit !
Love FORDS I WANT ONE TO PUT IN A FORD RANGER
Gen 4 PCM's are "locked down"...lol, not if you are a Computer/Software Engineer who works for America's largest defense contractor and was a Principal Engineer on the F35's Flight Dynamics and Battle Space Management Sensor Software Suites. Just give me some sniffer software and cheap x86X computing power and I can quite easily force my way past any commercial automotive control unit's security.
If you say so.
I love the 7.3 Godzilla but it is just the re-engineered LS I know I get hate for it but just give me a good old 289 302 pushrod with no computer and electronic bulshit I just like the cruise down the road Flowmaster singing
This would be a great engine if it had more cubic inches
Still wondering why Ford abandoned the 6.2 and didn't develop it into a proper 4 valve motor 🤔
Locked PCMs FTL 😢
I might be the only one but I want a 6.8 crate too. Even with a cast crank.❤
A 7.3 all aluminum block in a new mustang pls. No all digital dashboard pls.
That's a very reasonable price for the engines
Too bad the 2015-2017 5.0 were only like $6k so half price and can hold the most horsepower of all 5.0's. I made 940whp for 4 years before selling it. Sucks getting old when you start hearing lesser parts doubling in price but such is life. Quality always goes downhill when they figure out they overbuilt
Tunable or not ..
What do we want to see from fomo? A stroker kit for the coyote and for crying out load make a 427 version! That would be a beast!
Rubber oil pump belt, inside the engine on these units, or is that F150 only ?
Gear-driven, not the belt.
@@revanevan Sweet. I know the first and second generation were just like the Triton, driven right off the crank snout.
The pursuit of fuel milage has brought variable displacement, chain and belt driven units, that add complications, that not everyone wants...
9 1/2 quarts. 😳
Now Evan, of the Mustang is so good then how come Ford didn't invest enough money into the Mercury brand back in 05 to create the new Cougar with the retro styling looks just like the S197 Mustang back in 05 and just like the newer Mustangs have the same 5.0L Coyote V8 but make it 530 HP version of the Cougar vs 480 HP for the Mustang GT and 500 HP for the Dark Horse 🐎?
I'm sure Ford market research determined that it would not be a big seller in a time when many people wanted big SUVs. But that's just my guess.
@@revanevan True or the fact that it would be competing against each other as well but who knows.
Ford is just beating shit out of that 5.0 motor even in the super snake used to get a 6.250 now what is supercharger guy can’t you come out with a big block
Get rid of DIRECT INJECTION, just sell a 500hp gen 2
How strong is this gen 4 block, does it need sleeves over 1,000hp
Put out something that is emissions legal, and it would really open up our swap options all over, say 1996 and older bodies or hopefully even newer.
The only question that we all want to know .
Otherwise it's completely useless to us all.
Come on Evan. You're got pull. Get Ford to WTFU and unlock those pc.
And just to make you talk s*** and mad my 93 Fox still has a four-cylinder in it all original virgin car Hate Me Now I love it
Cheaper to buy a a donor car or truck. Ford always makes pricing for these create engine stupid high.
Used engines are always cheaper and have their place, but this engine comes with a 2-year/24,000 mile warranty and Ford will work with owners since not everyone installs the engine the day they get it. Remember, you're getting a brand new engine vs a used engine.
@@revanevan yeah and a single cab F150 with the same engine and a ten speed with a better warranty, all the work done and a nice truck is 33k
I’m switching back to ford for my next car. These Audis are too expensive to blow up
if it locked no sale if its locked yhen you own it not the buyer not a moral thing to do
And when I break down on the side of the road I can fix it and bring it home I don't need no laptop and all that b*******
Gen4 is nothing special.
This is what I hate about Ford’s new stuff.
Such a cluster Bleeeeeep!
So ugly, So cluttered
I used to be true blue oval but now it’s either old school pushrod stuff or LS. At least in the LS world you can make them cleaner.
The phrase “Coyote Ugly” applies here 100%
Or you can just mod gen 2 coyotes or older terminator and gt500 stuff. They all have tons of potential and beautiful looking engines that are clean looking. No need for any of these the gen 2 coyote can do with boost what these can. No reason to go beyond a gen 2.
You're seriously whining because the engine isn't "pretty" enough? Really?
@@RyTrapp0 That is correct!!!
Innov8 Race engines make billet covers for gen 3 and possibly fit this gen 4
@@RipitRon Tell us all about your pushrod engines with "pretty" stock valve covers😂
Love the coyote engines lots of potential but f'n ugly ass crate, in a classic come on Ford give up some sexy bling make that coyote ugly a stealth predator with hot rod class ! Old sohc look valve covers cover up the ugly