Botched Alabama Lethal Injection And Nitrogen Gas? Doctor Explains | Live Q&A
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
- Dr. Anthony Kaveh, a Stanford and Harvard-trained anesthesiologist and Integrative Medicine specialist, dives deep into the medical controversies surrounding lethal injections in the United States, revealing alarming failure rates and the implications for both medical professionals and the legal system. Discover the ethical dilemmas faced by doctors, the role of big pharma, and the potential alternatives like nitrogen hypoxia. This video is essential viewing for anyone interested in the intersection of medicine, law, and ethics.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction and Background on Lethal Injections
0:35 - Why Lethal Injections Fail
1:03 - The Controversy Around Nitrogen Hypoxia
1:45 - Medical and Legal Opposition to Lethal Injections
2:21 - Challenges with IV Placement in Executions
3:16 - The Role of Anesthesiologists in Capital Punishment
4:00 - Ethical Concerns Over Consciousness During Execution
5:17 - Alternatives to Traditional Lethal Injection Methods
6:19 - The Involvement of Pharmaceutical Companies in Executions
7:22 - Implications for Voters and the Public
8:00 - Mental Health and the Justice System
9:08 - Nitrogen Hypoxia Demonstrated and Explained
10:29 - Viewer Engagement and Final Thoughts
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I am a Paramedic. Just to clear up, The National Association of EMTs also has a position statement that says our members (EMTs and Paramedics) are also not to participate in the provision of administering lethal injections.
I'm glad to hear that. I'd have very odd feelings about being treated by a paramedic if I knew they'd also executed prisoners while moonlighting. Thanks for the work you do!
Yeah thanks for that info.
Well I mean that goes against the medical oath of do no harm so I don't expect emts to do it
I'm also a paramedic I refuse to assist in ending life for punishment
It would be better if you had a position statement that says your not going to provide narcan to drug addicts for overdoses too
I had absolutely no idea trained medical staff weren't central to the how capital punishment is carried out - THANK YOU Dr. Kaveh for shining a light on this for us. Our state and federal legislators need to be educated as well. Again, thank you.
They are carried out every day by private citizens treating pets with medical issues like cancer. Heck, I inject insulin every day, it's not hard.
The injection machine is very easy to reprogram as well. They simply set it to deliver all the solution instead of you getting a tiny bit by pressing a button. It is a handy skill if you need more morphine than given.
Really? Here in germany it is well known that american doctors refuse to take part. Maybe because we are against death penalty.
@SonjaHamburg it goes against the medical professional oath of do no harm
There actually are medical professionals involved but they remain anonymous by law. It varies considerably by state.
@@jonarmedpiandsecurityoffic9051 drs do harm EVERY day
You should be addressing all of Capitol Hill, DOJ, WHITE HOUSE, DOD NATO and every State criminal justice system‼️ This is exceptional presentation .
That is very kind of you 🙏 I hope you learned something new to advocate for yourself and your loved ones
@@MedicalSecrets As an old school filmmaker in my 50’s .. must say, doc .. not only is your channel my new “go-to” for my own health care management… I must say, watching your videos is incredibly entertaining! Bravo! Thank you for sharing your “medical secrets” with us .. your efforts will NOT be in vain .. we hear you loud and clear. God bless you !
@@MedicalSecrets Thank you. Even though I do not know anyone in prison, nor do I know how many individuals are waiting their fate on Death Row anywhere, I wholly believe that God alone is the judge Whom matters. Regardless of how heinous the crimes committed, we are not given the wisdom or authority to execute anyone. War crimes and crimes against humanity present a really tough consideration of which I am not qualified. But as the old Gospel hymn sings, "We will know all about it by-and-by..."
The last capital punishment passed down in Nebraska was done with fentanyl do you think that is a better way where they don't suffer@@MedicalSecrets
He is a doctor and his opinions really don’t matter to anyone but him. What the doctor is doing is explaining the process for educational purposes.
I have never understood why anesthesia isn’t used as the first step in capital punishment. Your explanation about medical personnel prohibitions explains a lot.
Good video. I was appalled at what happened. For crying out loud my dogs have been put to sleep in seconds
Good live stream, I learned a lot! I really enjoy donating to the anesthesiologist Foundation, since it was hard for me to go to college because of my cerebral palsy, I really wanted to be a anesthesiologist physician, it takes a special person to be an anesthesiologist or CRNA and you’re one of them! You rock man
I will hire you as I am in Contra Costa County close to Stanford. My dad told me to interview my anesthesiaologist for the best just as important as surgeon you rock 👍
Trauma hurts people so deeply that it changes the way that people see the world. Mental health and help in early childhood is so important.
I was on the board of a sexual assault center for several years. What I learned is that a very high percentage of perpetrators were either sexually assaulted and or physically abused as children. Extreme violence set their path. Therapists were not optimistic about not reoffending. In an in 23:46 service we observed a therapy circle. Several of the men said if they can’t get porn, they will get catalogs.
@@juditrotter5176 It is sad what happens to children.
I spent my 25yr career as an EMT/FF in a steel mill, lots of Co2 fatalities unfortunately. Blast Furnaces are a very dangerous place. Love your channel love learning from you! I've had over 5 spine surgeries and always wondered about anesthesia. Dream job would've been an OR nurse, the human body is fascinating!! Thank you!!
Well Doc...I'm glad that you were willing to bring up this controversial topic and
share your professional opinion. More please...
Agree. Very complex topic. I personally can't reconcile "doctors not involving with harm/death" but participate on ab*rations onto the 9th month". Not being smug or shady..it really troubles me😢
@@Always_Thinkingabortions in the 9th month happen when the fetus is already dead. Otherwise, doctors do a C section and provide medical treatment to the now-born baby
@@ELSapp I was referencing prior to Roe v Wade was overturned. The states are now in the process of determining their own abortion laws.
Dr. Kaveh. .
As a retired nurse. . .
I would volunteer my services
To help with executions.
NOT because I believe in capital punishment-
At 77 I believe in rehabilitation not in
State sanctioned murder.
But because I would do anything in my power
To prevent anyone from suffering.
Before anyone starts to call me names
For supporting empathic treatment of someone
Who has possibly taken a life in a particularly
Heinous manner. . . I understand that a person
Who has caused the death of others may not,
In their eyes deserve mercy,
But that makes society act as heartlessly
As the criminal sentenced to execution.
As I said. . .I just want to provide as much kindness
At the moment of death of a murderer, as I would to a patient
In the hospital.
Obviously there are many facets to this question.
We need to go back to injectables
Despite your excellent presentation.
Worked for years in unit where we received
Post op Open Heart, many complicated Thoracic
Procedures, Heart Transplants, Lung Transplants
And heart/solid organ transplants (tho not liver-we
Sent those to MICU).
Back to the question-
Not having medical personnel
Present and involved is just
Asking for Law suits.
In another life I would be a doctor so I love learning about such topics. None of my life's dreams have come true because I was perminantly disabled at 28 years of age do to three traumatic brain injuries. I am 38 now constantly going to doctors and hospitals and having surgeries. I have to take a crap ton of meds. I quench my desire for medical knowledge by watching you and a lot of other medical shows. I also read about medical things using s special pen reader because I lost the ability to read well. I absolutely love your vids. Thank you.
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Great stream. I missed the live . Im watching now after my shift . Im a nurse 😊. Dr K is very correct on we in healthcare nurses/docs would never participate in the action of dealth penalties. I, as a nurse, would not participate in the partice of an execution. I took an oath to do no harm , Im a healer, not an executioner.
Where did this oath go during the covid pandemic? I believe many were purposely killed by doctors making bad decisions. I'm not saying you personally, but I'm sure you witnessed this?
Had no problem giving untested poisonous vaccines though.
And many nurses and Dr's are involved in the worst kind of death... ab or t ion.
@@awesomeblossom1 Absolutely correct!!
That part..my hands were washed clean❤
I appreciate the controversial, sensitive topics. Thank you
I live in Alabama and I'm against capital punishment. Once again I am so embarrassed by an event that happened in my state, the most recent botched execution using nitrogen gas. I hope you and your viewers know that there are some sane people here in Alabama. I enjoy watching your channel.
You need to repent!! These people are murderers!!
I am a retired safety manager and scuba diver. I worked in a facility that did rocket testing with vacuum chambers. My dive buddy was escorting some visitors and they opened a hatch and walked in one of these chambers my buddy was one of the last to enter he saw the visitors start to pass out. He grab the guy in front of him. Got that guy out of the chamber grab an air pack and had an other person get on air and they rescued the last two in side the chamber. All three survived, one was hospitalized. Another time we had an air pack test /certification meter that ran on nitrogen it developed a leak after twenty years of use and was leaking nitrogen into the air side of the system used for the final test of breathing the air pack one of the testers passed out but the breathing the air pack , but we didn’t have straps on the mask, so he woke up quickly. The biggest issue with nitrogen is that the guy being executed knows he’s going to die.
Nice that you are holistic as well as being a conventional allopathic practitioner and anaesthetist. I would totally trust you.
I got to watch the man die who murdered my little girl by lethal injection ( he got the easy way out!) Sorry if I sound cold, but she was 3 yrs old!
At the same time very informative information. Thank you for sharing.
So so sorry that happened to you.
@difri2000 thank you so much.❤️
I'm so sorry your daughter was taken away you 😭
My heart goes out to you xxxx i can only imagine how you come to terms with the loss of a child at the hands of another xxxx i hope the sentence being carried out on her killer helped to give you closure xxxx ❤❤
I'm so sorry that happened to your family. You have every right to feel how you do. I just cannot fathom how people can unalive children. Kids are the humans we're most supposed to protect. 😢😢😢
Potassium burns bad when you get it by itself, without another iv of salt water diluting it. The burn spreads deeper and deeper throughout your body the longer it is dripping in you. The pain becomes indescribable after 30 to 60 minutes. They paralise the heart with that? The pain must be unimaginable.
Even with the saline it is unbearable pain. I’ll never forget how bad that hurt. They finally gave me a cup of dissolved potassium because I was unable to tolerate the IV. I was on a fentanyl button because I had a perforated bowel and went septic. Fentanyl was the only thing that worked.
I would like to hear from others who had similar experiences.
@@annenelson5656 i was on morphine every time they did this and it intolerable. I can stand it with some iv fluid. Oh I was in for a severe immune attack at the time related to my type 1 diabetes.
@@hicknopunkI could not agree more on the severe pain with potassium being given directly via an IV undiluted! Twice on my last hospitalization my potassium level was low and they were supposed to piggyback with my regular IV. The nurse turned off the IV, running straight potassium into a vein. The pain was horrible. The nurse finally came back in, but started the IV at a slow trip, so not diluting the potassium enough and offered ice packs to help with the burning pain. This happened a 2nd time and I was beyond irritated. As a retired nurse I raised holy heck. Bad enough it happened once, but to have it happen twice, I was absolutely spitting bullets. That will be last hospitalization if I have any choice. I’m done being the quinoa pig/lab rat/training aid in the local teaching hospitals. I should not have to educate new nurses at my expense.
They are sedated before the potassium is infused to stop the heart
I take klorcon (prescription potassium) due to chronic low- potassium levels after i had my gallbladder removed. I've been given potassium many times in the hospital, and maybe because they have run the bag with saline over a few hours that I've never had problems with pain while receiving it. It burned my IV site a little when first administered,but nothing notable. However, this is something I didn't know could happen and will always be watching for now. Thank you!
They should have hired my uncle Johnny-- he used to be a hitman.
Cheaper and more effective. 😉
Really great point that many of us havent considered. I thank you for bring this to attention.
Thank you for another brilliant video. I find your voice incredibly soothing. I would not have any issues with trusting you to do the best you could for me, if I was ever your patient. Thank you for the video!
Kenneth got off easy compared to his victim. Couldn’t imagine what she went through in her last moments of life.
Smith was incarcerated for around 30 years, during which time he lived under threat of death. They then attempted to execute him one time and that attempt was not entirely dissimilar to the crime he committed. Then they had a second go, during which time he died slowly (even if you want to blame him for holding his breath, that would only have extended the process a short amount).
In a lot of parts of the world, just being incarcerated for that length of time would be regarded as a sufficient punishment, without throwing in an attempted execution and a "successful" execution.
Yes, his victim was killed, yes, Smith should never have killed her (and her husband shouldn't have hired him to do the deed), but if we're asking whether Smith or the Alabama "justice" system is the greater arsehole, I have to give the award to the Alabama "justice" system for essentially punishing Smith three times for the one crime.
So, no, I have to disagree with you that "Kenneth got off easy compared to his victim."
He got to be alive for 30 years. That's better than being dead by no choice of your own like the wife was. She was robbed of life. That's way worse. Death row is protected, btw. If anything, others had to fear for their lives from him. He is the murderer after all. Some inmates are in for far less than murder. @resourcedragon
Jail sucks. Just cause youre alive dont mean jail is fun or easy.@kimberlykv4313
Exactly
@@spunkysparks1779 he made his choice. She didn't. He made it for her. 🤷♀️
You are such a great teacher. I truly appreciate how much I have learned with you. I can listen to your soothing voice all day long (I mean this with all due respect). 😊
Yes, you have a soothing voice, it would keep me awake! :) Wish all my teachers had your voice or something close to it. Continue to educate the world. 🌎🌍🌏💙🙂
I just had my gall bladder removed. I followed you to become more informed about anesthesia. I appreciate your astute presentations.
This is absolutely HILARIOUS!!! The drug companies saying they don't want to be involved in capital punishment... while EVERY SINGLE DRUG undergoes an LD50 test (lethal dose) and therefore is TOXIC by it's very nature. The drug companies are perfectly okay selling you toxic drugs with life-altering side effects, but they're taking a moral stand with capital punishment? Laughable.
There's a very simple, 2 drug solution that would do the job without a bunch of drama: Propofol would make a patient lose consciousness very quickly and Potassium would stop the heart.
Real reason: Capital punishment is rare and they can't make much 💰 from it. You can bet they are heavily involved in Canada where self 💀 is the new final "treatment" for depression. Follow the money.
In principle anything that you consume has a lethal dose - water and salt for example. Thus they each have an LD 50.
Too much of anything can kill you. Literally too much water will kill you. Everything has a toxicity level, not just pharmaceuticals. Vitamins and minerals have toxicity levels. Also LD50 tests are no longer required by the FDA.
Quit spreading misinformation and lies.
@tayfan2 In Canada, the medical assistance to die is not for people suffering from depression. It is for people suffering from an incurable, degenerative illness. Those people who are condemned to die and to suffer or loose any quality of life waiting for it can apply to receive medical assistance to die. It is for those who want to avoid all the suffering of their fatal illness.
Depression alone is NOT an illegible reason for medical assistance to die.
@@laurencepaille5753having seen my uncle pass from early onset dementia and Alzheimer’s in his 50s and the way he slowly lost his self and humanity….if I got diagnosed with such a disease, I would absolutely want to avoid that final suffering and do not think that’s wrong. Some awful diseases out there with horrifying endings. I think what your government is doing is humane.
Thank you for talking about this ❤
I certainly appreciate that you approached and explained this.
I appreciate you tackling topics and events to elevate our personal understanding of disastrous events. Knowledge is mandatory to forming conclusions on issues as today's topic thx u. ❤😊
This is a very conflicting topic thanks for covering it, I had heard about the botched ivs before, I hope there will be changes
You’ve empowered me so much by following you. The more we know the better we can do. My life goal is to help teach people how to properly advocate for themselves or their loved ones. I never want anyone to experience what my child and I have.
I missed the stream, noooooo
Gonna watch the vod, tho. Your vods are always fun to watch. Keep it up! :D
Thank you very much for sharing this information!
Wow, I took it for granted that doctor's were present on lethal injections.
No because against medical ethics DO NO HARM
I did as well. Dr whats your opinion of the new law allowing pharmacists to dispense certain medications? From what I've read, I would think Dr's would like it to free up the schedule for more serious issues. Maybe I'm missing something. One trend I don't like is it's hard to find Dr's in our area, including emergency rooms occasionally, because they are all using nurse practitioners and physician assistants.
@@kp6215ironic, since keeping the criminals around does HARM innocent humans. We have to all consciously decide whose side we are on.
First Do No Harm
...hence the 8% botched Leth.Injec failure rate probably, which on the face of it should be enough to stop the circus! C'mon, 8% failure rate on something as monumental as cap. punishment is outrageous. I'm not sure on which side I am regarding cap. punishment, but what they have going is ridiculos.
Thank you so much for explaining this.
Also I wanted to tell you I love your channel you are an amazing doctor one of the very few that i would trust full.
Much love to you and your family keep up the amazing work.
Thank you for this very informative presentation.❤
I've learned so much from your videos.
My dad's great aunt was the first nurse anesthesiologist. Hopefully I got that right. She was an exceptional woman.
Have you done one on eds hypermobile range of patients?
There is a complex need for these patients.
Dr Kaveh, thank you for your informative content. I always learn a great deal from you. I found you during the Maya trial and was intrigued because I was diagnosed with TN and GN (Trigeminal and Glossopharyngeal Neuralgia) in 2012. I have tried too many treatment options to count or list here, but Ketamine is one that has helped. I am grateful you are willing to discuss the controversial topics that most doctors would not. I find there is a strange dichotomy though, with doctors and society as a whole when it comes to this topic and the topic of late term ending of a pregnancy. I believe life has value and there is a huge conflict that I am unable to resolve in my heart and mind, to say that a Dr cannot be involved in execution, yet they are able to terminate a late term pregnancy (when there is no risk of harm to the mother). I truly would like to understand how though, is one legitimized, and the other demonized? I am sure my views are too controversial, even for this conversation, but it is a hard topic that no one is willing to have, but i feel if we are going to take a stand for life, then we have to do just that. (I am sure this comment will get blasted with hate, because that is what people do now. Instead of having civil debate, and real discussion, people resort to name calling and bullying... You might even delete my comment as well, and I understand that too, unfortunately.) Thank you for sharing your knowledge and broaching the 'untouchable' topics.
Abortion should be demonized. In New York, if the mother doesn’t like her baby, they leave it to starve. That’s way more evil, yet, this anesthesiologist (who probable has killed patients through negligence) has zero concern over the murder victim, who left two sons motherless. Trying to attribute the same sympathy for a “botched execution” is beyond disgusting. Did the murderer care as his victim begged for her life? Did she suffer? No, he commited a heinous crime, was judged by a jury of his peers, who decided he deserved death. No qualms as an Alabamian, and a nurse.
Fascinating discussion
thanks doctor , i had no idea! 💡 question : why isnt it done the way a dog is put to sleep ? Why cant a vet rinarian do it ? ( 2 questions , sorry )
I'm glad you asked, as I was wondering just about the same. I have had to hold my animals as they were put to sleep, it's bittersweet, as you don't want them to suffer but don't want them to go. Ultimately, being that they are so sick, I couldn't have just let them suffer. I've always seen them peacefully go to sleep in less than a minute. Why are we not able to do this for humans?
I used to be a veterinary technician and have performed pet euthanasia. If you get the liquid outside of the vein, it’s painful. Also if you don’t inject fast enough, there can be an excitatory phase where the animal may cry out or paddle their legs or convulse. The animal is not awake at that time, but it is disturbing to see. It would take a lot of euthanasia solution for something as large as a person. However, I have heard of veterinary professionals who hooked themselves up to an IV drip and committed suicide, or attempted it.
Legally veterinarians can lose their licenses if they do anything on/to a human. Even doing something like stitches could lose them their license. Also the vast majority of veterinarians deal almost entirely with dog and cat biology, but primate biology (human) is very different. You’d need someone with a lot of exotic experience (like a zoo vet) and those vets are pretty rare. So even if they weren’t bound by the limits of their license, and were willing, the average vet may not be as big an improvement as you’d think.
@@mylifewithmarmalade4624 okay , well thanks . I'm not too worried about a cold blooded killer anyway . However , thanks too all that left comments .! It was in lightening 🐕
Thank you for this video. You explained all of this very well. I had no idea that doctors or medical professionals were not involved in this process for lethal injection. No wonder things of this nature are botched. Please keep posting. You're explanation is so amazing and easy to understand
By the way, doc, you are a breath of fresh air and thank you for teaching us.
You are brilliant. Your patients are so blessed to have you. Thank you for this incredibly informative video. Where do you practice medicine?
Thank you for covering these topics. A couple topics would nice to hear about in the future:
1. Physician assisted suicide (what is the medication give), how does it act in the body and dies the patient feel anything?
2. Why does a person vomit or get sick after epidural but not sick at all with the normal prophal.
3. Why is Ketamene not recommended being used for D.I.D. (M.P.D in the old DSM), when people have developed it due to major childhood trauma, and continued through adulthood? Have you seen benefits from it in M.P.D?
4. How can we convince doctors that in surgeries that they need to be sure that they keep us asleep during the removal of the tube. I wake up and am awake when they are removing tube. So much awake, that I know they are pulling it out. It is a massive fear eventide I am put to sleep for surgery.
5. Silly but doctor recommended due to my age a colonoscopy. My mother gave her a sedative but sedatives, even vercit do not work good on me. What medication is used for a coloniscopy and if we are asked to do one, can be asked to be knocked out completely instead of the "lighter" medication like veracity, epidural, etc.
6. Why does asthma make it harder to talk, eat and drink etc (O2 low counts)
7. Can we request to be put to sleeopaon meds (given during a spinal rap?...best yet be k kicked asleep. I have interracial hypertension and even with a guided laser machine, they poke my spinal cord 5 or more times before they actually get my clear fluid out. I cannot handle it anymore. I need a pain medication and at this point probably a sedative.
Lastly, I think it is excellent that doctors refuse to assist in the "death squad" of our prison system. Not aware but am sure Nurses would not kill others as well. Sad to hear that other health care professionals would consider it.
I was a nurse. I am quite sure some nurses would particularly in capitaln punishment
We have assisted suicide in Switzerland. I have cancer. I probably would not want to do that but am glad to have that option
Awesome thank you Dr! ❤
I appreciate you discussing and informing us of these issues. I am lucky as i live in a country without the death penalty.
I live in Wisconsin and there is no death penalty here. Thank God.
The whole execution thing is religiously based-an eye for an eye.
No sympathy…..just deserves……..how did the victim feel……?
I feel the same. How long did it take her to die? What were last thoughts? He could have done this to our mother or sister.
I have known this and am furious that these physicians who have no anesthesia training and personally I cannot support lethal injection or capital punishment. Thank you for supporting my beliefs in this matter!!
Thank you again 🙏
I remember passing out in a BJJ class many years ago. I was pinned with all my opponent’s weight on my chest as he tried to get me in an armbar. I struggled a lot trying to get unpinned, and I held my breath while struggling. Finally I stopped struggling and I couldn’t hold my breath anymore, and exhaled. I remember my vision turning gray and then blacking out. I couldn’t inhale at all with my chest being compressed and I was unconscious. Obviously my opponent then moved, and my unconscious body started breathing again or I wouldn’t be here. I woke up extremely confused, in an armbar, staring at the ceiling, and completely paralyzed except for my eyes and breathing. It was terrifying trying to bend my wrist, elbow, or anything but my body wasn’t responding to any commands from my brain. After a few seconds my whole body went into a spasm of extension of my arms and legs that I couldn’t control and I lost consciousness again, I guess maybe I was having a seizure, I don’t know. When I woke up again I was lying on my side, my opponent must have placed me into recovery position. I was breathing very rapid, deep breaths, and in a few seconds I was able to move again. I couldn’t fall asleep for a long time later that night, every time I tried I would startle myself awake because I felt like I was dying. I failed that semester at university. I had the PTSD from this for a long time. Although terrifying, I don’t recall the event as being painful.
I love your channel!!❤❤
I was a witness to seeing my neighbor killed. My testimony put the killer in prison. Thank God it was in Wisconsin where there's no death penalty. I think if my testimony would have killed another person, I'd have been even more traumatized. Now I live on the Alabama coast, and I thought this gassing of a prisoner that had been botched previously was horrendous. I read that it was pretty awful to watch. Maybe I'd feel different if I was the parent, though.
That's a nuanced view, all too rare these days. Thank you for sharing
That witness experience must have been horrible. Your feeling that execution would further traumatize you is an important point. I’d like to hear from jurors who voted for capital punishment.
I hope you are healing from such a traumatic experience and are able to carry on and live your best life.
Thank you for sharing.
All the best!
@@annenelson5656: In Kenneth Smith's case 11 out of the 12 jurors voted _against_ capital punishment but the judge over-rode them.
(Later the law was changed so that judges could not do that. Given that the law was changed I am surprised that the jurors' vote didn't swing one of Smith's appeals for him.)
I am greatful for your view , also freatful to live in a Nation that determined decades ago to abolish the practice ... it is proven world wide to NOT be a deterent to deadly crime !!
@@annenelson5656 Thank you. It happened several years ago, but I remember it so vividly like it happened yesterday.
I was happy to see this very bad dude get life. Maybe in prison he can change. I'm not counting on it because he smiled his way through court, but I doubt he's smiling anymore.
I've never believed in an eye for an eye, that gets us nowhere. Wars are started that way. I don't think we need to punish a barbaric act by becoming barbaric ourselves. In the end, I don't think that really makes anybody feel any better.
Hopefully we'll evolve from this troglodyte society someday ha ha.
Thank you for all your videos. They are very educational & that's a valuable thing to have.
Can you please do a video on Dr. Jack Kavorkian's death machine?
Thanks to you, now I know and understand more. Thank you 😊
Thank you!
This is a great video for understanding and instruction. Thanks doc! Didn’t know that about “emia.”
I do know a lot about hypoxia and I have a personal experience. While living in Eureka, CA we had a rodent problem in da house. We tried all the ways of getting rid of them. There’s really no point in using “have a heart traps” with rats, you’re just going to displace your problem to someone else unless you want to drive a rat way out into the country where it will probably die anyway. Well we got sick of rats getting their legs caught in traditional catch traps and having to then deal with an injured and not dead rat. One of them had to be dispatched by the blow of a head of an axe. Another executed itself by sitting on top of the nice warm electrical box while it was avoiding a trap. The water bucket traps don’t work, rat too smart. I’m allergic to cats. We already had two large dogs (but the problem did get better when we adopted a husky, who was better at catching rats than the larger dogs.)But it came to a time when we didn’t have husky and we needed to dispatch some rats. One of the largest rats we ever caught, I believe my ex actually caught him by hand while he was lounging on our water heater. We didn’t know what to do with it so we decided to try gassing it because we read sometimes vets do that. Also nazis. He is a weed grower so I believe we used carbon dioxide and not nitrogen. It was such a BAD IDEA. I would never advocate gassing humans after seeing that. The rat screamed I swear. If we must do capital punishment, which I thank the doctor for exposing these major issues, but if we must do capital punishment then let the country bumpkins dispatch with a method they know and love. Not only do you not want Billy Bob corrections officer placing an IV, you also don’t want to use gas because it’s just a bad look. It looks like nazis and when the hypoxia sets in it looks painful and lacking in mercy. Let the rednecks put a bullet in him or don’t do capital punishment
Thank you for covering this subject. I had no idea that perfessional Med people were not . I thought someone was watching over this so there wouldn't be mistakes. How horrible.
Take a look at "Reduced Oxygen Breathing Device" they use to train pilots for high altitude hypoxia awareness.
It can reduce the pilots oxygen intake to ~5% oxygen intake, not 21% of normal air.
I personally think it's a poor substitute for the altitude chamber for the "startle factor" and possible ear pressurization complications, that could also occur in flight if there is an explosive decompression at 40,000ft.
I have experienced the propypol pain a few times. I have had ketamine, it doesn't burn but they gave me 150cc over 2 hours and the nurse said she was surprised how talkative I actually was. She said I'm like a super human she has never seen anyone awake and talkative with such a large dose.
I have had propypol used once . I did not have any pain
I wish people would think of the people they ask to do these executions. I lost a friend to 5uicide and now work in a support group for those who lost someone this way. One family, their father, worked on death row for about 15 years. His last execution he attended was botched. He took his life. Maybe think of the everyday people that have to work death row. They aren’t bad people. They don’t enjoy what they do at all. It’s a job to support their family.
I’ve been asking for a while because I am a patient that has to suffer everytime I have back surgery and I’m really hoping you’ll answer and give some insight because you seem so good at your job. How do you treat a patient on suboxone during surgery and how do you manage post op pain since buprenorphine blocks opioid receptors
Carbon monoxide could also be an alternative, that causes sedation and hypoxia. When I worked in the Emergency room we saw countless numbers of folks affected by carbon monoxide, either intentionally (suicide attempts) or accidental through generator use or heating methods malfunctioning. The ones we saved stated they had zero pain and or knowledge it was even happening. Hemoglobin’s binding affinity for carbon monoxide is 300 times greater than its affinity for oxygen. As a result, small amounts of carbon monoxide can dramatically reduce hemoglobin’s ability to transport oxygen, therefore asphyxiating the patient/inmate.
I learned a lot and got a lot of food for thought from this presentation. I didn’t realize that the medical/pharma community had such a strong stance on this or that no properly trained medical professionals are involved at all. I thought there must be a doctor administrating the drugs and supervising the process to avoid exactly the kind of issues you described. That makes me much more uncomfortable with the idea.
Great live stream, learnt lots. Sorry I couldn’t make it!
"Never Events" is the polite term for botch surgeries. Every year 4,000 surgeries are "botched" which resulted in 6.6% deaths. Of the 4,000 59.9% that are still alive. I myself had my eye botched resulting in a stitched left in my eye for a year and a half before it was removed by another doctor. It was pushed back in my eye because it was coming out. The original doctor who did this to me refused to take it out because of my insurance and of personality differences.
Very informative. My late question for you Doctor is: Why do they feed people before administration when we fast for surgeries and even animals do as well, and a part B why are they not using sodium pentobarbital in a bolus push like we do for veterinary? Thank you! ❤ I am aware that phenetoyn burns, I am referring to Fatal Plus, not Beuthasol. This can be ingested also, but you would vomit it tastes foul to avoid poisonings. Any drug like that works slower with food and risks choking. You would need skilled people to raise a vein in any case and avoid blowing that vein. Veterinarians have some of the highest suicide rates in the country due to access. It is gold standard to use this drug IV only regularly. (No, you can not tranquilize and do heart sticks anymore), I had to be re certified. NO we did not do that with a corneal reflex absolutely not. No blink reflex with Ketamine first. I am not suggesting anything other than IV. Why do they not use it? Dogs go down as fast as you can press that plunger. I should say pre surgery mix of Ketamine and Anased IM first. Then the IV administration. Why do they not use this. FP is a CC per 10 lbs and actually can kill at half that, hence the name. And it is water soluable powder, no burning additives.
2 words, Firing Squad
Exactly my thought.
He asked for the gas.
@@rebeccadavis794 because he thought it would delay the date
Yes. That will be instant.
Cheaper and more effective.
This channel is highly educational and fascinating. I am an IT architect, but I now have a strong interest in Oncology and Medicine. Thanks for making these!
Nitroglycerin was brought up in one of the comments. I use a nitroglycerin ointment between my toes to help with my Raynaud's Syndrome. RS is a condition where the fine blood vessels close up for no known reason. It affects the fingers and the toes. They can get very cold and turn white! The nitroglycerin opens up those blood vessels to let the blood flow to these extremities. When I first developed the condition, I almost lost the tips of several of my toes because the tissue was being starved of blood. I am currently recovering from having my big toe nail being ripped-off, and the RS might slow down the healing process. I have to be very watchful and keep my feet warm.
I am hearing lot about what they are doing wrong. I would like to know your solution. How should they be doing it?
Very interesting 😊
Perhaps the main reason for botched lethal injections is the fact that MDs and other medical professionals refuse to assist with it.
As an Air Force pilot, they actually use this method to train us on how to recognize the symptoms and respond to hypoxia. I guess it's cheaper than using the altitude chamber. It's generally a feeling of euphoria and is totally painless. Of course, they generally don't let us go so far as to lose consciousness.
Curious. What is your opinion of those doctors that administer drugs to humanely euthanize people who have chronic illnesses that doesn’t ordinarily lead to death
I had this morbid laugh at the idea of a prisoner saying "just give me the needle! I know how to find a vein!"
What I like about watching your channel is that unlike if I had to see you in real life, this way I actually remember some of what you’re saying.
My favorite MD
Same and my father is an anaesthesiologist 😂🤷♀️
🤦♀️ autocorrect never works correctly! 😂
That are lucky that many care about them.... I'm sure they didn't care about any suffering they inflicted. Just saying
Thank you for remembering the victim. They didn’t get a 36 minute livestream from an anesthesiologist analyzing the HORROR they suffered!!!! I liked this guy but had to laugh when he said “healers” really???? What about what the victims went through??? They didn’t have MD’s precisely placing the knives or whatever brought their demise!!!!🙄🙄🙄🙄
Since our system is run by human beings it is fallible. It is impossible that 100% of the people executed are guilty and yes innocent people have been executed. What if you or a loved one is one of the innocent who are murdered by the government. Just saying……..
I understand your point of view, Doctor. My wish is you trained professionals could be present to help the victims of these monsters. It seems those victims do not matter.
As a doctor, perhaps it is natural for you to see unusually bad behavior as a product of mental illness. However, the vast number of mentally ill persons do not harm anybody, let alone commit horrendous crimes. In fact, the mentally ill also can use self-control, the same as anybody else. Most people who are abused do not go on to commit the same abuse. What I'm saying, I guess, is that most mentally ill people are not "insane" in the legal sense; nor are most convicted criminals. I don't know all the answers, obviously.
I'm a former psychiatric nurse. Most people with mental health problems ski not more run against of insane in the us. There are many different forms of mental illness. He absolutely did not say that every person who's mentally ill is a criminal
Hi if you got 100 percent oxygen before you get put sleep how long do you have to put the intubation tube in or LMA as I have copd and I am difficult to intubated they have to use a glide scope they have not had to do awake intubation or fiber optic on me I am interested to know and this topic I found very interesting and informative I live in the United Kingdom and I just love your videos
Prisons should hire physicians that have lost their license to perform capital punishment.
Or drs that perform ab or t io ns. They don't have any ethics...
@@awesomeblossom1 Politicians botch the process of developing and enacting laws that directly maim and kill tens of thousands of people a year both by their omission and commission and face little if any consequences for that malpractice of their representation of the people - do they have any ethical dilemmas in that failure to be diligent?
Whenever I heard about that failed execution, the thought that came to my mind was "why don't they just use a bunch of opiates?" I didn't even consider that the pharmaceutical companies were not allowing there medications to be used for such purpose.
I had a surgury and was put under. When I woke up my throat was VERY sore and I could hardly talk. The next time I had surgury I mentioned the throat soreness to the anisthesia doctor and he suggested I have a "smaller intibation tube" used durning my upcoming surgery. Someone later told me there is only one size of intibation tube. Which is true?
I intubate geckos and Great Danes, our ET tubes range from 18g catheters, true ETTs starting at 3.0 and go up to 11s. I’m not sure how much it varies in human hospitals but yes there’s a huge range in sizes.
I doubt they have only one size tube because pediatric surgery and teens exist too as do people with congenital or traumatic conditions that may drastically increase or decrease the size of their body, chest cavity, or airways.
Blessings always
I'd like to hear your opinion on the "Right to Die" states, which require an MD to assist.
Would a laparoscopic surgery blowing you up with CO2 ve considered manual Bends?? It's so painful and I could touch my ribs and across my body and felt like bubble wrapping pastic popping as I presses on it. Very painful in the back and everywhere for weeks for me. Does that mean I had "Bends" from it??
The bends is when you have bubbles in your bloodstream. That bubble wrap feeling is from air bubbles that went under the skin. It’s a completely different thing.
Thank you for addressing this. The capital punishment issue is one thing. Listening to this was informative that is never discussed. I always thought doctors were the ones to administer the drugs. Dang. This should be against the law.
It's sad because the public has been also having ways to add stress to strain of all decisions that are made during a violent defense or even at a level that has idea to stop such. Some see the idea of invasion of body snatching and some see multi factor points about why . Thanks sharing . At best imo the mindset could be tears because two lives or more are ruined...as result
That's a lot of rights for people who didn't give a damn about their victim's rights.
Would the 'process' not be quicker if the N was pressuried - partial pressure of N vs O2?
It'd a long time since I sat in a pressure tank using pressure breathing to cope with 30,000ft + cabin alt. By the way, whilst hypoxic we used to do various tasks - like writing a nursery rhyme but also describe our individual symptoms to recognise them in future. Blue fingertips and tingling, for example.
Always used to consume brown beer and curry the night before and have beans for breakfast. No white fog upon rapid decom - it was beige and the chamber suddenly stank of bodily gasses!!!
the intake of N2 is not the cause the loss of O2 is. That said you could certainly induce nitrogen narcosis that way.
For that matter Xenon is an inherently suffocating AND anaesthetic gas, they could just use xenon.
Maybe irrellevant, but audio compression is totally crushing this video in so many ways. Maybe audio format conversion.
Fentanyl 🤷🏼♀️
Many times, it is hard to find a person's veins; the fact that prison personnel couldn't isn't unusual. Kenneth essentially ended up suffocating on the nitrogen because he fought the procedure by trying to hold his breath.
Super informative. Thank you very much.
Nitroglycerin for medicine was discovered by accident, before dynamite, liquid nitroglycerin was used for blasting and those who handled it got it on their skin. This was long before the days of PPE.
They should at least have someone insert the IV properly. Although a person who is being executed probably didn't think about what they were doing.
Yes... I didn't share examples of IVs that have been infiltrated after being placed by some doctors... Other tragic stories
I thought he requested gas?
You are brilliant without a shadow of doubt.
I guess my question is why the pain and suffering is the explanation without considering why the punishment was delivered.
Yes no licensed professional would agree to being part of this act totally agree but very educational despite a few things noted here.
Staying in your lane should be of note. Stay in your lane. Let the court of law handle what is just because that is where they are trained.
Anesthesiologist /Judges are just that.
Respectfully mixing them just seems wrong.
i WOULD MUCH PREFER dying even in a non-optimal execution than spend longer than 2 years in prison. I have GI issues and eczema so just prison time would be torturous to me.
The reason sodium pentathol is no longer used in lethal injection is because the companies who provide it have refused to sell it for this purpose. They maintain, their drug is for healing and not killing.