@@ksmusiclounge1648 I am also surprised at the variance within the same models. I thought the necks were manufactured by a machine. Didn't realize they were making these by hand and thus we can see such a difference. Really makes me want to play before pay now.
@@Elementalism The Necks are not "made by hand" The necks are all cut and shaped on a machine but are hand sanded for final assembly before being painted. I seen a few Gibson factory tours and they show you how the necks are cut and then they they are hand sanded before being painted and glossed. This is why they vary. If they were 100% machine made every neck would be exactly the same.
Thanks for chiming in! It seems we have seen the same factory tour vids 🤘. “Hand made” is a loose term in the guitar making world - maybe I should do a video on this. Even top tier boutique hand-made guitar makers start with the CNC to get the blank necks and bodies. The time that the guitar is crafted by human hands vs the time a machine does the job is the main reason this hand made narrative works. Since its 2-3 times the time that human hands are touching the guitar vs the machine, its fair to say - and the guitar companies do say it - that they are made by hand. The next point of distinction has to do with how many human hands are doing the job. For the mass produced instrumnets, every part of the building process is done by somebody else. For custom shop instruments it just a handfull of builders and for the master built instruments, its one guy who does it all. Takes more time, limits the quantity, increases the price. Hope this sheds more light on the topic!
Hey, first of all, thanks for this video, I don't have big shops in my city/state to try them out, I have to buy online, so this is very helpful! I have two questions: do you know how big is the difference from the 60s to the 50s? And did you measure with the strings on, just pressing the strings?
Hi there! Always measure with the strings off. The 50s and 60s are VERY different in how they feel. I would definitely recommend to try them out before you buy. Unless you already know how each feels - which doesnt seem to be your case. I really like the 50s feel in that it nicely fills the palm with something instead of there just being nothing. But your mileage may vary…
@K’s Music Lounge thank you so much for your help! I've got an epi lp custom and the measurements match the 50s style, love my baby, but the neck is a bit too fat for my liking, I'll see if I can find a 60s to try next time I travel to the neighbor state, can't wait to have a gibson les paul, that's a childhood dream lol not the most comfortable guitars, but the sound... just love it
Well to be honest you should measure the shape of the neck. The shoulder and the roundness is a bit different really. That’s my experience when I compared them.
I thought I felt the same until I measured them - now I feel no difference 😂 I think its just in our heads - Gibson bills them both as “vintage 50” so my conclusion is - they are the same neck within a tolerance for the hand-made aspect of them. Thanks for chiming in man!
@@ksmusiclounge1648 Yes they do various a bit as you say, all depends on who is doing the last touch. Everyone including the guys at Gibson have their own preferences and therefore they all are a bit different even if they come out the same from the first neck shaping process. I have had a couple of Slash and the 50’s standard. One of those Slash actually had a pretty slimmer neck, almost between a 59 and 60. Was a great one hehe. One of the 50”s had an utterly small hand shaping process. I’m meaning little wood had been shaved/sanded off. But I did find on all of these the difference in the shoulders The 50” had a beefier or more hand filling feel to it, more rounded and less pronounced neck shape….. Aaaaaah it’s all in persons feel and preferences, what I feel might not be felt by the next person 😂 A good video by the way 😊👍
Thanks man! I felt the exacte opposite - I thought I felt the Slash sigs were meatier. Then I measured it and suddenly they felt no different than the regular 50s standards in my hand. Its all our heads I think 😂
I see a good topic for my next video 🧐 going off of my memory, the R9 feels more like a soft V whereas the 50s is a bit fuller kinds of but now quite like a R8. This should be investigated with calipers, I think…
Would love to own a gibson but i am happy with my 2 slash epiphones, as a primarily 80s hard rock and metal fan my other guitars are dean, ltd, edwards with thin necks and as a smaller guy the slash epihones feel like holding tree trunks, not unplayable but i so much prefer the necks on my epihone Zack wylde bullseye.
Awesome, thank you for following up!
Great question - I was surprised by the result myself! Thanks!
@@ksmusiclounge1648 I am also surprised at the variance within the same models. I thought the necks were manufactured by a machine. Didn't realize they were making these by hand and thus we can see such a difference. Really makes me want to play before pay now.
@@Elementalism The Necks are not "made by hand" The necks are all cut and shaped on a machine but are hand sanded for final assembly before being painted. I seen a few Gibson factory tours and they show you how the necks are cut and then they they are hand sanded before being painted and glossed. This is why they vary. If they were 100% machine made every neck would be exactly the same.
@@Elementalism Here watch this video on Gibson necks being made ruclips.net/video/lxwLEiVnGDk/видео.html
Thanks for chiming in! It seems we have seen the same factory tour vids 🤘. “Hand made” is a loose term in the guitar making world - maybe I should do a video on this. Even top tier boutique hand-made guitar makers start with the CNC to get the blank necks and bodies. The time that the guitar is crafted by human hands vs the time a machine does the job is the main reason this hand made narrative works. Since its 2-3 times the time that human hands are touching the guitar vs the machine, its fair to say - and the guitar companies do say it - that they are made by hand.
The next point of distinction has to do with how many human hands are doing the job. For the mass produced instrumnets, every part of the building process is done by somebody else. For custom shop instruments it just a handfull of builders and for the master built instruments, its one guy who does it all. Takes more time, limits the quantity, increases the price.
Hope this sheds more light on the topic!
Thanks. I, too, was wondering. Good show
Thanks for answering the most important question on the internet. 😅
Thanks! I A/B’d the 50s vs 60s neck at GC today, 50s is a better fit for my big hands for sure.
Glad it helped!
Hey, first of all, thanks for this video, I don't have big shops in my city/state to try them out, I have to buy online, so this is very helpful! I have two questions: do you know how big is the difference from the 60s to the 50s? And did you measure with the strings on, just pressing the strings?
Hi there! Always measure with the strings off. The 50s and 60s are VERY different in how they feel. I would definitely recommend to try them out before you buy. Unless you already know how each feels - which doesnt seem to be your case. I really like the 50s feel in that it nicely fills the palm with something instead of there just being nothing. But your mileage may vary…
@K’s Music Lounge thank you so much for your help! I've got an epi lp custom and the measurements match the 50s style, love my baby, but the neck is a bit too fat for my liking, I'll see if I can find a 60s to try next time I travel to the neighbor state, can't wait to have a gibson les paul, that's a childhood dream lol not the most comfortable guitars, but the sound... just love it
Well to be honest you should measure the shape of the neck. The shoulder and the roundness is a bit different really. That’s my experience when I compared them.
I thought I felt the same until I measured them - now I feel no difference 😂 I think its just in our heads - Gibson bills them both as “vintage 50” so my conclusion is - they are the same neck within a tolerance for the hand-made aspect of them. Thanks for chiming in man!
@@ksmusiclounge1648 Yes they do various a bit as you say, all depends on who is doing the last touch. Everyone including the guys at Gibson have their own preferences and therefore they all are a bit different even if they come out the same from the first neck shaping process.
I have had a couple of Slash and the 50’s standard. One of those Slash actually had a pretty slimmer neck, almost between a 59 and 60. Was a great one hehe.
One of the 50”s had an utterly small hand shaping process. I’m meaning little wood had been shaved/sanded off. But I did find on all of these the difference in the shoulders The 50” had a beefier or more hand filling feel to it, more rounded and less pronounced neck shape…..
Aaaaaah it’s all in persons feel and preferences, what I feel might not be felt by the next person 😂
A good video by the way 😊👍
Thanks man! I felt the exacte opposite - I thought I felt the Slash sigs were meatier. Then I measured it and suddenly they felt no different than the regular 50s standards in my hand. Its all our heads I think 😂
50s neck is thicker than slash
and 50s vs 59 ?
I see a good topic for my next video 🧐 going off of my memory, the R9 feels more like a soft V whereas the 50s is a bit fuller kinds of but now quite like a R8. This should be investigated with calipers, I think…
Would love to own a gibson but i am happy with my 2 slash epiphones, as a primarily 80s hard rock and metal fan my other guitars are dean, ltd, edwards with thin necks and as a smaller guy the slash epihones feel like holding tree trunks, not unplayable but i so much prefer the necks on my epihone Zack wylde bullseye.
Did that goldtop come with pickup covers ?
Yea its 1000% stock
I wanted to know how big the neck was for your handnot hong long the fret distances are 😂😂😂 🤷🤷🤷🤷
Gibson = 🥱 Yawn...this is Epiphones world now
I got a gibson les paul cheaper than an epiphone standard 😂
A standard?
@@ksmusiclounge1648 2013 chocolate lpj
Yummy
you wish lol