Lol, it's so hard to come across more classic JRPGs, although I admit they seen to be having a bit of a revival with games like Bravely Default and Octopath Traveler.
I'm around 150 hours into this game. Ive played the game every day for over a month, which I haven't done in a game in over 10 years. This is definitely my favorite JRPG since Skies of Arcadia over 15 years ago.
This is going to be my first Dragon Quest. I've always been an FF fan, and I'm craving for traditional turn based RPG with modern graphics. Glad to see DQ is staying true to its original gameplay.
If you start to enjoy the series, I heartily recommend DQ IV for the DS. IV is my favorite in the series, and the NES version (Dragon Warrior IV) is my favorite game of all time. If you enjoy DQ XI, definitely check it out!
i love that giving characters different weapons gives a little player agency but each character has a unique skill tree giving each character an identity. Every single aspect of this game can be defined as simple elegance.
Not always true. Some change to be very unique and creative and those are usually some of the best, and ironically they don’t do well *because* they’re not mainstream
@ChronoMune, The only games I can think that match your criteria is katamari damacy (which hasn't really changed but is creative and not popular), or Persona (3, 4 and 5 are very different to 1 and 2), which catapulted that series to popularity (or popular as far as niche games go). Most games unfortunately don't change for the better, they just get worse, but I really do get what you mean with your comment.
FFXV was incomplete when it was first released. So many updates were released, it just wasn't the same as when it was first released- which in and of itself, is pretty fucking annoying. Dragon Quest XI on the other hand, was completed upon release. No day one update; no updates to follow. It is, in simple terms- Perfection. Dragon Quest as a whole is sheer perfection.
The reason I still love and buy Dragon quest games every time they get released is because they play the same as I remember playing as a kid. Final Fantasy has completely changed its format so much over the years I have no interest in playing any of the new games.
Jeesus i barely even played through half of Ni ni kuni II yet or Xenoblade Chronicles II, between Those two games, Dragon Quest XI and Kingdom hearts III. This has to be one of the best years ever for JRPGS. So many Large blockbuster Budget Titles.
Why the hell does everyone always ask for ONLINE PLAY even for games like this? I mean come on. Look at FF XV, people demanded Online play and they finally got it. But i personally think CoOP and playing as avatar online characters and shit like that would other wise ruin the immersion and experience of this grandiose EPIC that is meant to be a single player Rpg game. Please stop demanding CoOp and online play for every damn game. If you want that go play Call of duty, stop messing with our JRpgs.
paul slade It be that to where ever you are. Some people want online gaming with others for pretty much everything.😐 swell can say as over time the trend will die out.
I just finished it, it was my very first dragon quest. At first I thought it was very dull and the music kinda outdated but it grew on me the more I played. I loved every main character , never understood why everyone didn't like veronica, I thought she was funny and the fact that she was in a little girl body made it even funnier. And also the voice actors , I think they did a fantastic job and i'm the kind of weeb who despises english dubs in my jrpgs. What else... pep attacks, some were funny, other ones were cool; costumes , I wish there is a transmog system of some sort; gambling I HATED that part because it forced me to play it to complete a sidequest; story cliche, old but it's told in a very good way; post-game content was amazing, I dare to say it is one of the best post game content out there... etc etc And to finish this, I'm gonna whine about to 3 things I didn't see in the game: 1. Mc not revealing what was happening at the beginning of the post-game 2. Not seeing Dundrassil being restored to it's former glory 3. Not seeing the wedding of mc (even though there is a picture) To sum it up , amazing game 9/10 would pay someone to make me forget everything and played it alm over again
I found it boring too. When does it get good? I'm about ten hours in and right before the prince horse race or w.e. I'm a big fan of 8 so I don't want to give up.
What does draconian mode exactly do? I'm thinking about making my first playthrough on it for a little challenge, if the game is as easy as some of these reviews are saying.
kainhighwind2 ”too easy” in this case means, picking up everything and fighting everey monster will make you a bit overlevelled I think there’s an option for double HP/damage monsters with half XP that could suit that? Also I believe you can turn it off later if it gets too much
This is my first dragon quest besides like an hour of IX that a friend had, and this game is one of my favorite games ever. I'm now looking into getting some of the others.
I finished the story last night. I didnt get into it at first but after a few hours i started to get drawn in by the amazing world design, excellent characters and combat system. This is the first DQ game ive played. However i did play the S Definitive Edition which has the orchestral soundtrack and thought it sounded great
It's a good jrpg, but its def not groundbreaking. I spent more time item hunting towns and areas then the actual story itself. Xenoblade chronicles 2 is by far king of RPGs of this generation and FFIX a close second depending on which battle style you like better. DQ11 still pretty gud tho if your a beginner, it just feels like I outgrew it a long time ago.
i have & luv this game!! Dragon Quest XI is 1 of my fav games of 2018!! Big fan of Dragon Quest Builders & Dragon Quest Heroes games as well!! Dragon Quest XI is a spectacular & stellar game!!
What I love about dragon quest is that is has stayed dragon quest and it's still that enjoyable jrpg tht has been from the start and keeps getting better.
Coming to this after watching Tim Roger's actual in-depth review was a bad move... edit: I called him Tom and not Tim which is stupid beause Tim is his name, not Tom.
It's not a bad review, certainly. But to see the words IN-DEPTH right after coming from Tom's review... Well, it was a bit of a mislead, I think. I wouldn't have had high hopes if it had said "first impressions," which is what this more closely resembles... But you're right, it's not bad...
I cannot change my name... You see... I AM WHAT I EAT! Yeah, maybe I shouldn't have left any comment. It just irked me a little it said "IN-DEPTH." It doesn't matter. It's a good review, knineknights is right. Maybe I should just delete it. I've added nothing. But Sean Murray's contribution really made me laugh, so I'm a bit torn...
obviously I’m super late but i was considering buying this & your review was GREAT. I’ll be picking this up for sure, so thanks for the in depth review.
Yo @6:59 mentioning the games difficulty being too easy is misleading as they normally are. Its obvious they separated the normal difficulty by allowing you to enable it with draconian options so it would be more appealing to western casual players. You don’t even have to research the options to pick as some of the draconian options are how you would play naturally anyways if you were to merely pick “All enemies are super strong” game quickly changes to the more familiar experience. Maybe limiting your experience from weak enemies could be added as well but I bet that option just turns the game into a grind fest more familiar of the NES versions. I only really liked 3 and it still had a massive leveling marathon you had to endure to even have a small chance of surviving the ridiculously overpowered final boss. Anyways, point is just picking all enemies are super string pretty much satisfies typical dragon quest gameplay. Square should have had the settings that give the typical experience enabled by default and then only after the fact have the player choose to disable them. Rather then the other way around
About 15 hours into this game now, and so far it's a complete slog. The whole world feels like a movie set, completely hollow. What's the point in having a big world if almost nothing in it can be interacted with in a meaningful (or let's be honest, any) way? Why even have dungeons when it's just a long corridor with no puzzles or anything to stand in your way except some very easily avoidable monsters thrown in here and there? I just got back from the "dungeon" by Gondolia where you get the magic water to heal the mute boy. You can literally sprint from the entrance to the mini-boss at the end without facing a single obstacle. Of course, I took the long way first, because as everyone knows, that's where the goodies are. Nope. Nothing. Just the same recycled assets and nothing to interact with. I went back the short route and found a single treasure chest with some worthless junk in it. It's been the same for the entire game so far, both in towns and in the field areas. Barely any hidden passageways or fun secrets to uncover, just corridors filled with nothing, designed to waste your time in order to create the illusion that you've actually played a game. So what does that leave? The battle system might not be all bad, but I wouldn't know, because the only semblance of strategy required is to set Serena to "focus on healing" and then bash away with the rest. Equipment is an afterthought, as some stuff is just straight up better than other stuff, so of course I'll use that. I'm not too far in, granted, so I'm expecting the difficulty to pick up a bit. It's just a bummer that the battles feel like a chore for more than a dozen hours into a game in which the main activity is fighting monsters. The story is EXTREMELY standard chosen-hero-saves-world-from-evil fare, which, at first, I was ok with. I thought it was it was kind of cool they just embraced the old-school JRPG style to the fullest. But when everything else in the game feels like filler the bland story and one-note characters start to irritate me. It's like they threw in every trope and cliche from the last 30 years of JRPGs and just left it like that. Where exactly have the developers put any effort in? In making the game long? The graphics are fine, I guess, at least the character models are. The environments look good from a distance, but up close they're harsh and blocky and all too often it's just a completely naked corridor with nothing to mix it up at all. Meh. The music ranges from forgettable at best to absolutely grating at worst. The same can be said for the voice acting, though, mercifully, you can turn it off. Aside from that the game just has a bunch of stupid fluff put in to give the impression that there's more to it than there actually is, like being able to move around during battles but it having no impact on what happens. Or the gondolas in Gondolia (ugh) that you can get in and row around in for absolutely no reason. Or the horse race. Or the "platforming". Or the monsters you can tame to get you to places you can't get to on foot. You might say the game gets better after a while, and that may very well be, I just don't think it's too much to ask that there is some fun to be had the first fifteen hours. I'll soldier on for a bit, but I don't think I can take 70 hours of this stuff. I never write rants like this, and I know I'm a bit late to the party. It's just that this is another one in a line of critically lauded games I've played lately that have disappointed massively (Ni No Kuni 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, Far Cry 5, etc). This was the last straw.
@@timmypantelis8489 Oh man, I had completely forgotten about this. I actually replayed most of HZD recently and, yeah, still one of the most overrated games I've ever played.
Great review! Thinking of grabbing this on the PC. After some performance analyses of course. We may be in for a lovely game, but PC specific issues do crop up with new releases from time to time.
God i know, and don't forget Kingdom hearts III when that comes out. How in the hell will i find the time to play all these. This year is perhaps one of the best we have ever had for JRPGS.
Artimes X lol yeah, time management gonna have to be utilized properly for all these haha. FF7 remake would've been the icing on the cake, but we all know that's not coming out till 2069
It's annoying to me that people make frequent saving options a con. When I play a game, I want to be able to stop playing whenever I want, not whenever the game thinks I should be able to. That's why I like always available menu saving. Also, the music is great and catchy, no idea what people are on about.
I invested 200 hours in the Japanese version I give it a 10 also the oomph or pep system in this game where you turn into a super version of yourself is very random.
I've only ever played DQ8 on the DS, many years ago. I was never into it despite being an FF and JRPG fan in general. I know this is super popular in Japan and is FF's rival to an equal level over there compared to the west where FF seems to be more popular, but with this being now in the PS Plus extra catalog and tons of hours of gameplay, I want to try this one.
Get it now, play the heck out of it, and if you feel like getting the Switch version down the road, just trade in your PS4 copy of this towards the Switch version. Or just keep both, like I'm gonna do
I get it but I only plan to play it once. So it's either buy now or wait and enjoy it portably. I probably will wait to see some switch footage to see how it looks.
@@Teremei true man, time (and money) is just so limited when you're an adult that it's hard to play through a game this long multiple times, and even if you have the time, you might just want to spend it with something else. So if you feel like waiting and seeing the switch version, do it. I also really wanna see it an play this portable, but I've been waiting for too long already, so I'm just gonna grab it this week
I started RPGs way back with DQIV on NES. At this point in my life I want to experience as many great RPGs as possible. And I still have RPGs even as back on the SNES or PS1 that I still haven't beaten. So it's about time yeah. When I was a teen I played FFIV for SNES probably 10-12 times, seriously. But now not only am I older, many great RPGs have come out since then. There is just more to chose from now compared to when SNES was new. The RPG was sort of fresh and new and not a lot of them to chose from in the US.
Depends how good you want it to look. Even the base ps4 runs it sub-1080p. Really cannot wait to see what will they do with the switch,.. just hope it is not a day and night thing, like DQ builders (this one performs quite well on the switch,.. just at 720P) or heroes ,.. that looks more like a vita version than ps4 one (or preform like crap). Either way, will probably get it on both,.. PS4 in 18 hours ,.. Switch in a year of it's release.
Somethings wrong with my ps4 game, Keeps running off track and says either the discs scratched or dirty and its brand new and smooth as a babys bottom. Has their been any reports of the light edition (Glitching) From the DLC content being installed before even having a save file?
Been waiting for this since Dragon Quest 8 on my PS2. Already paid and ordered for my PS4 thru Amazon, just a few more days now :). Shame is I heard from friends who play Dragon Quest X (their mmo you can play solo or with people) would really rival FF14 here in the West if they ever release it out of Japan.
i havent played a dragon quest game in 10 years.soon as i popped dq11 in it all came rushing back.so pleasantly familiar.one thing i hate tho is the god damn autosave feature and that god damn everpresent mini map
Because not all of us want to play the same thing over and over. Yes, when you change things you're going to alienate a section of your fanbase, but for my money I'd take something that's imperfect but fresh over something that's incredibly polished and well crafted but completely unsurprising.
Kitase(director of ff6,7,8 and 10) basically said that he doesn't like to use words such as "ff like" believing this will put developers in something of a creative box and would rather leave the debate on what ff is for critics and future historians, I think this shows that the ff series isn't meant to be a traditional series its basically made to be the polar opposite to DQ.
Because there's no reason to have 2 series dedicated to the same audience. I'm checking out this review to see if there is anything about this game that interests me where other DQ games did nothing for me. I would say no. It looks like the other DQ games. That's why FF varied up the series. Nothing wrong with DQ for those that enjoy it. Just not every jrpg fan's thing
I think they changed modern FFs too much, almost everything has been a lowpoint or a mixed bag after X, I find it really hard to like 15, but World of Final Fantasy was so good. But then you have games like Persona where they just seem to have a naturally progression or refinement of the series.
I still say an HD remaster of DQ8 would be a lot better because DQ8 was one of the greatest games ive ever played (i would say of all time but that would start an argument)
While i agree with some people’s sentiment that the kotaku review appropriately praises the game, and does a really great job of selling it to the audience...this review is actually a bit more accurate and fair (Rogers goes into so much depth that he almost ruins the element of discovery by spoiling every nuance that a player should be experiencing themselves). ...anyway....I’ve been playing the game for about 15 hours now, and the music is so atrocious that it’s quite often ruining my immersion. Also...i found classic dragon quest games to sort of be superficially difficult. It was easy to die if you didn’t realize what invisible level you needed to be in order to beat a boss. And losing to them often meant a significant and annoying waste of time repeating an entire dungeon. Their slow pace, and simplistic systems (that often lacked true strategy) were to blame, and repeating a dungeon that was already boring and tedious was mind numbing. With that said, i find it shocking that this game feels like the easiest in the series so far. the addition of the pep system, and the forging system, both potentially open a lot of strategic options....and all of the quality of life changes make repeating an area much less punishing. So why not capitalize on that system and make the game MORE challenging? It feels like a wasted opportunity (so far). At least the draconian quests add some optional challenge...although I’ve never really liked applying optional challenge, it feels like laziness on the part of the developers so that they can call the game “accessible to all audiences”
It's NO different than choosing the difficulty at the start of the game. It literally IS that. Video games have had difficulty levels since the early days. Get a clue, its only optional if you know nothing. You must select very easy on every game and bitch that "well the difficulty is optional, and this game is waaay too easy!! Waaah!"
Calling the ability to choose difficulty levels lazy is one of the most stupid things I’ve ever heard. From a game design standpoint an optional difficulty mode requires the developers to add an alternate version of EVERY SINGLE ENEMY TYPE in the game with increased stats which is not even close to lazy for reference here is what that code would look like: BEAST_KNIGHT: If hard_mode == true: Hp = 48 Mp = 18 Atk = 12 Else: Hp = 32 Mp = 8 Atk = 9 Abilities [JUMP_SLASH]; And that’s a simplified version of said code written from memory and also accessibility matters in games this game is made for a wide range of audience from kids to adults and age absolutely matters in games as a 8 year old you have zero fucking clue what your doing and suck ass and as you grow up you get better at games so for any game that is meant for kids-adults you are going to have the optional difficulty modes because there is a large skill range in your market and before you go and tell everyone on twitter that a salty game dev is explaining game design to you I want you to know I’m not a game dev just a sophomore in high school that likes coding
Long time DQ fans: You will love it New players: You will love it if you enjoy old school, NES/SNES style JRPGs. Oh and I don't think this player understood the party line-up mechanics lol. I see what he was going for, putting less HP characters in the "middle," but was ultimately shooting himself in the foot.
Apperently I enjoy old school NES jrpgs then, I never played any before. I saw a youtuber play it, noticed the Akira Toriyama style, liked the start of the story (Heliodor) and bought it. 40 hours later, I got to act 2, started a new character because of underleveling on the first one (makes the game a lot harder as well which is fine, but companion levels are wonky). It is that I have a job, or it would have been more.
Well if you are enjoying this, definitely try and check out other older jrpgs, or just other DQ games. VIII is A LOT like XI as a whole. But really like I said, if you enjoy at least one DQ title, you will like them all because they are very similar, but in a really good way.
Great game, fantastic RPG. My only gripes is the missed opportunity to match the beautiful story with a beautiful orchestrated soundtrack instead we get a midi on the entire game . It just takes me away from moments of intensity or emotions.
14 min video "in-depth" meh, watch Tim Roger's video.... the shorter video is 33mins, the other is 2 hours... just saying! 14mins isnt "in-depth" enough.
The story is straightforward. You'll probably guess a few plot points ahead of time, but just when you get comfortable the game likes to throw in often dark twists. The characters on the other hand are amazing, and give the story so much flavor and always help keep the game feeling fresh.
main game was too easy.post game was tough though, and its when the game really became amazing for me. And its really massive(30+ hours). Not saying the main game was bad, just too easy without draconian options.
I don’t think a symphonic OST would be a good fit. The series has always been MIDI (besides VIII in the west) and I also enjoy the old school sound effects for doors, stairs, etc. it’s great for us long time fans.
Grow Tacoma especially with this series not getting a “real” update in the west for about ten years. I want that nostalgia. They can try new things after they get a little more regular with releases here XD
I would agree that the game could stand to steer you more towards a certain strategy for some boss battles, but otherwise, if you find the game too easy, you should stop over-grinding levels. The basic mob fights will last a turn or two longer. As well, every boss fight I've encountered so far - about 25 hours into the game - has left me worried that I wouldn't be able to complete it. I've completed a boss fight where my last character had 2 hp remaining. The game is as easy or as tough as you make it. :)
Not to mention the fucking Draconian rules that can make this game impossible if you so choose. Why are all the reviewers missing the god damned Draconian Quest menu?! It's an outright lie to say its easy if you choose to ignore options to make it harder.
@@corneliusagrippa4613 because you cant choose it once you start playing without it. I as a newbie had no idea how hard or easy the game will be, and when I found its too easy for me, it was too late and I didn´t want to start it again
if you use these two dracona quest settings, "harder enemies" and "no Flee" your game will be plenty hard. i am having a harder time then persona 5 in the first 15 hours.
Good to see the gameplay looks the same as dq8. Probably buy this one in the near future. Are there more games with turn based combat for the PS4? Already bought persona 5 btw.
No. Not at all. Why should a game have to take a different path? Final fantasy is not dragon quest either. Fan of both games. Final fantasy was an jrpg. Why change a formula. People would have continued to buy. Final fantasy changed. Now look at it....... dragon quest stayed the same still great. Hm.
"Games of its ilk" sounds bad. I had to double check the definition of 'ilk' as I've only heard that word as a negative. The classic JRPG nature is why I love it. While Final Fantasy has lost its way requiring bravely default & octopath traveler for that old school goodness. Dragon Quest sticks to its roots is a positive for me. I got into the series when ps2 DQ8 launched with Final Fantasy 12 demo disc & amazing box art cover I was so pleasantly surprised by it I went back to play all the older ones released on DS. Dragon Quest 5 ended up being my favorite & DQ7 being my least favorite. I'm not going to rank 11 yet until I finish it but it appears to be great so far. And cheers to the community who made the mod for the Orchestral OST on PC!
Ironically it's unoriginality makes it original today because there isn't many old fashioned rpgs with next gen visuals like this.
Lol, it's so hard to come across more classic JRPGs, although I admit they seen to be having a bit of a revival with games like Bravely Default and Octopath Traveler.
so true, good point.
billyblackburn87 lol everything comes back around. By the way you were born in 87? That’s cool we’ve been in it from the same time.
@ChronoMune, if that's the case, that makes me a year younger.
original =/= not that common nowadays
......what kind of drugs do you take to come up with your reasoning....
I'm around 150 hours into this game. Ive played the game every day for over a month, which I haven't done in a game in over 10 years.
This is definitely my favorite JRPG since Skies of Arcadia over 15 years ago.
I loved Skies of Arcadia! I wish I could play it again
I might pick this up off steam sometime soon.
Skies was so good. I remember that and Grandia II coming out on Dreamcast at the same time, that was an amazing time to be a JRPG fan
I'm about 200 hours in now and its been an emotional ride I tell you what.
This is going to be my first Dragon Quest. I've always been an FF fan, and I'm craving for traditional turn based RPG with modern graphics. Glad to see DQ is staying true to its original gameplay.
If you start to enjoy the series, I heartily recommend DQ IV for the DS. IV is my favorite in the series, and the NES version (Dragon Warrior IV) is my favorite game of all time. If you enjoy DQ XI, definitely check it out!
Dragon Quest VIII for the PS2 beats all others.
@@heavyq yes, that is what I heard. Thank you!
@@Animeniac77_Teemo_G0ne_Wild I plan to play VIII on the 3ds. Are there any major differences with the PS2 version?
Oh are you in for a treat my friend!
i love that giving characters different weapons gives a little player agency but each character has a unique skill tree giving each character an identity. Every single aspect of this game can be defined as simple elegance.
Oh man, really looking forward to this game! :)
You should be on FF14 streaming lol
Hallo. Do u get to unlock ALL the skills in the skill tree or u are limited in some way?
Criticizing Dragon Quest for being traditional seems like missing the point of the thing.
Good thing the review doesn't do that, then
@@shubhankar2508 r3kt
Im relieved it hasnt changed. When shit changes too much it becomes mainstream bullshit. I will never criticize dragon quest for doin its thing:)
This alone has killed so many games for when (e.g. Final Fantasy) because they abandoned their roots.
Not always true. Some change to be very unique and creative and those are usually some of the best, and ironically they don’t do well *because* they’re not mainstream
@ChronoMune, The only games I can think that match your criteria is katamari damacy (which hasn't really changed but is creative and not popular), or Persona (3, 4 and 5 are very different to 1 and 2), which catapulted that series to popularity (or popular as far as niche games go).
Most games unfortunately don't change for the better, they just get worse, but I really do get what you mean with your comment.
If there's one thing mainstream, it's the dragon quest games.
@@drunkensailor112 Dragon quest mainstream???
Final Fantasy XV: Wah they changed so much
Dragon Quest XI: Wah they changed so little
Syuna that’s really not saying much
@Syuna nah
I don't think that was the main complaint of FFXV when it first came out...
FFXV was incomplete when it was first released. So many updates were released, it just wasn't the same as when it was first released- which in and of itself, is pretty fucking annoying. Dragon Quest XI on the other hand, was completed upon release. No day one update; no updates to follow. It is, in simple terms- Perfection. Dragon Quest as a whole is sheer perfection.
Syuna nope. FFXII is better.
My favourite RPG franchise
@Sean Murray why is it sad DQ is a great series.
+Sean Murray It is called an opinion. If you don't like someones "opinion" then you are seriously sad
Of the JRPG franchises that are still alive today (i.e. still seeing new releases) I totally agree.
The reason I still love and buy Dragon quest games every time they get released is because they play the same as I remember playing as a kid. Final Fantasy has completely changed its format so much over the years I have no interest in playing any of the new games.
Agreed
Jeesus i barely even played through half of Ni ni kuni II yet or Xenoblade Chronicles II, between Those two games, Dragon Quest XI and Kingdom hearts III. This has to be one of the best years ever for JRPGS. So many Large blockbuster Budget Titles.
Its a jrpg renesonce.
But they aren't budget titles
You need some fucking Octopath Traveler in your life.
If you haven't played it yet: Tales of Vesperia comes out in november for xbox ps4 en switch. It's a great rpg as well.
Shit I'm still trying to finish Persona 5 lol.
Why the hell does everyone always ask for ONLINE PLAY even for games like this? I mean come on. Look at FF XV, people demanded Online play and they finally got it. But i personally think CoOP and playing as avatar online characters and shit like that would other wise ruin the immersion and experience of this grandiose EPIC that is meant to be a single player Rpg game. Please stop demanding CoOp and online play for every damn game. If you want that go play Call of duty, stop messing with our JRpgs.
I know, just leave the rpgs alone ffs.
Wanting it that bad. They could just learn Japanese & get DQ X from online.
@@AllenTax It's not like there is no coop or online games already right?
paul slade It be that to where ever you are. Some people want online gaming with others for pretty much everything.😐 swell can say as over time the trend will die out.
Yeah. They should just bring over the mmo. But it's kinda old now. Maybe if they make a new mmo.
I just finished it, it was my very first dragon quest. At first I thought it was very dull and the music kinda outdated but it grew on me the more I played. I loved every main character , never understood why everyone didn't like veronica, I thought she was funny and the fact that she was in a little girl body made it even funnier. And also the voice actors , I think they did a fantastic job and i'm the kind of weeb who despises english dubs in my jrpgs.
What else... pep attacks, some were funny, other ones were cool; costumes , I wish there is a transmog system of some sort; gambling I HATED that part because it forced me to play it to complete a sidequest; story cliche, old but it's told in a very good way; post-game content was amazing, I dare to say it is one of the best post game content out there... etc etc
And to finish this, I'm gonna whine about to 3 things I didn't see in the game:
1. Mc not revealing what was happening at the beginning of the post-game
2. Not seeing Dundrassil being restored to it's former glory
3. Not seeing the wedding of mc (even though there is a picture)
To sum it up , amazing game 9/10 would pay someone to make me forget everything and played it alm over again
I found it boring too. When does it get good? I'm about ten hours in and right before the prince horse race or w.e. I'm a big fan of 8 so I don't want to give up.
8:12
The draconian mode is available at the start of the game, you dont have to finish it once.
Yep, I got that mixed up. Sorry about that.
What does draconian mode exactly do? I'm thinking about making my first playthrough on it for a little challenge, if the game is as easy as some of these reviews are saying.
You can select any, all, or none of the options, some are stronger monsters, no shopping, no running from battles, no xp from weak enemies, etc.
kainhighwind2 ”too easy” in this case means, picking up everything and fighting everey monster will make you a bit overlevelled
I think there’s an option for double HP/damage monsters with half XP that could suit that? Also I believe you can turn it off later if it gets too much
Anyone know how much stronger Draconian mode makes the monsters, and if it is worth it?
Awesome review, awesome game. Dragon Quest XI here I come!
This is my first dragon quest besides like an hour of IX that a friend had, and this game is one of my favorite games ever. I'm now looking into getting some of the others.
7 is good too
So is 8
I really like how this game looks. This is a definite buy for me
I finished the story last night. I didnt get into it at first but after a few hours i started to get drawn in by the amazing world design, excellent characters and combat system. This is the first DQ game ive played. However i did play the S Definitive Edition which has the orchestral soundtrack and thought it sounded great
It's a good jrpg, but its def not groundbreaking. I spent more time item hunting towns and areas then the actual story itself. Xenoblade chronicles 2 is by far king of RPGs of this generation and FFIX a close second depending on which battle style you like better. DQ11 still pretty gud tho if your a beginner, it just feels like I outgrew it a long time ago.
I love clasic JRPG!This game is amazingly beautiful,interesting,so enjoyable
i have & luv this game!! Dragon Quest XI is 1 of my fav games of 2018!! Big fan of Dragon Quest Builders & Dragon Quest Heroes games as well!! Dragon Quest XI is a spectacular & stellar game!!
What I love about dragon quest is that is has stayed dragon quest and it's still that enjoyable jrpg tht has been from the start and keeps getting better.
I am playing this game right now and I purchased it on Xbox due to playing it on Game Pass and really falling in love with it there!!
I am so excited for this game. Getting it day 1 on PC
me too
me too. Am not disappointed at all. LOVE IT
@@corneliusagrippa4613 im dont know if I should buy this game or monster hunter world :/ can ya help?
SchafSenpai buy this game
Damn I cannot wait!! September 4th can't come fast enough.
@Sean Murray don't rub it in 😂😂😂
probably one of the best games i've ever played... and i've played a LOT of games
Coming to this after watching Tim Roger's actual in-depth review was a bad move...
edit: I called him Tom and not Tim which is stupid beause Tim is his name, not Tom.
Not sure what me being a homosexual cuckold has to do with this Dragon Quest XI review. Please stay on topic.
This is actually a really good review. Its just that Tom's is phenomenal.
It's not a bad review, certainly. But to see the words IN-DEPTH right after coming from Tom's review... Well, it was a bit of a mislead, I think. I wouldn't have had high hopes if it had said "first impressions," which is what this more closely resembles... But you're right, it's not bad...
I can't help but feel your comment is rather trollish considering your name is "spam". Change your name.
I cannot change my name... You see... I AM WHAT I EAT! Yeah, maybe I shouldn't have left any comment. It just irked me a little it said "IN-DEPTH." It doesn't matter. It's a good review, knineknights is right. Maybe I should just delete it. I've added nothing. But Sean Murray's contribution really made me laugh, so I'm a bit torn...
The main reason why I fell in love with RPGs is the whole turn based aspect of it. Strategy.
Ever since Dragon Warrior 1 and FF 1 through 7. Love em.
obviously I’m super late but i was considering buying this & your review was GREAT. I’ll be picking this up for sure, so thanks for the in depth review.
Yo @6:59 mentioning the games difficulty being too easy is misleading as they normally are. Its obvious they separated the normal difficulty by allowing you to enable it with draconian options so it would be more appealing to western casual players. You don’t even have to research the options to pick as some of the draconian options are how you would play naturally anyways if you were to merely pick
“All enemies are super strong” game quickly changes to the more familiar experience. Maybe limiting your experience from weak enemies could be added as well but I bet that option just turns the game into a grind fest more familiar of the NES versions. I only really liked 3 and it still had a massive leveling marathon you had to endure to even have a small chance of surviving the ridiculously overpowered final boss.
Anyways, point is just picking all enemies are super string pretty much satisfies typical dragon quest gameplay.
Square should have had the settings that give the typical experience enabled by default and then only after the fact have the player choose to disable them.
Rather then the other way around
About 15 hours into this game now, and so far it's a complete slog. The whole world feels like a movie set, completely hollow. What's the point in having a big world if almost nothing in it can be interacted with in a meaningful (or let's be honest, any) way? Why even have dungeons when it's just a long corridor with no puzzles or anything to stand in your way except some very easily avoidable monsters thrown in here and there? I just got back from the "dungeon" by Gondolia where you get the magic water to heal the mute boy. You can literally sprint from the entrance to the mini-boss at the end without facing a single obstacle. Of course, I took the long way first, because as everyone knows, that's where the goodies are. Nope. Nothing. Just the same recycled assets and nothing to interact with. I went back the short route and found a single treasure chest with some worthless junk in it. It's been the same for the entire game so far, both in towns and in the field areas. Barely any hidden passageways or fun secrets to uncover, just corridors filled with nothing, designed to waste your time in order to create the illusion that you've actually played a game.
So what does that leave? The battle system might not be all bad, but I wouldn't know, because the only semblance of strategy required is to set Serena to "focus on healing" and then bash away with the rest. Equipment is an afterthought, as some stuff is just straight up better than other stuff, so of course I'll use that. I'm not too far in, granted, so I'm expecting the difficulty to pick up a bit. It's just a bummer that the battles feel like a chore for more than a dozen hours into a game in which the main activity is fighting monsters.
The story is EXTREMELY standard chosen-hero-saves-world-from-evil fare, which, at first, I was ok with. I thought it was it was kind of cool they just embraced the old-school JRPG style to the fullest. But when everything else in the game feels like filler the bland story and one-note characters start to irritate me. It's like they threw in every trope and cliche from the last 30 years of JRPGs and just left it like that. Where exactly have the developers put any effort in? In making the game long?
The graphics are fine, I guess, at least the character models are. The environments look good from a distance, but up close they're harsh and blocky and all too often it's just a completely naked corridor with nothing to mix it up at all. Meh.
The music ranges from forgettable at best to absolutely grating at worst. The same can be said for the voice acting, though, mercifully, you can turn it off.
Aside from that the game just has a bunch of stupid fluff put in to give the impression that there's more to it than there actually is, like being able to move around during battles but it having no impact on what happens. Or the gondolas in Gondolia (ugh) that you can get in and row around in for absolutely no reason. Or the horse race. Or the "platforming". Or the monsters you can tame to get you to places you can't get to on foot.
You might say the game gets better after a while, and that may very well be, I just don't think it's too much to ask that there is some fun to be had the first fifteen hours. I'll soldier on for a bit, but I don't think I can take 70 hours of this stuff.
I never write rants like this, and I know I'm a bit late to the party. It's just that this is another one in a line of critically lauded games I've played lately that have disappointed massively (Ni No Kuni 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, Far Cry 5, etc). This was the last straw.
Disappointed by horizon zero dawn? Maybe you should stop playing games
@@timmypantelis8489 Oh man, I had completely forgotten about this. I actually replayed most of HZD recently and, yeah, still one of the most overrated games I've ever played.
11:15 the ass of steel
Great review! Thinking of grabbing this on the PC.
After some performance analyses of course. We may be in for a lovely game, but PC specific issues do crop up with new releases from time to time.
PC port is sweet as butter.
This ain’t the final version, we got the switch upgrade coming soon boiz
I'm buying it
I'm buying it too
And it's magnificent
its on the switch...mine as well use a cell phone and Xbox Ultimate pass to play gorgeous games streamed to ur screen!
This and Ni no Kuni 2 look so good! Ps4's library of JRPGs are looking lit af right now 🔥
God i know, and don't forget Kingdom hearts III when that comes out. How in the hell will i find the time to play all these. This year is perhaps one of the best we have ever had for JRPGS.
Artimes X lol yeah, time management gonna have to be utilized properly for all these haha. FF7 remake would've been the icing on the cake, but we all know that's not coming out till 2069
@@benimo6 if its as good as kh3 looks like its gonna be Im fine with it, good games are worth the wait.
It's annoying to me that people make frequent saving options a con. When I play a game, I want to be able to stop playing whenever I want, not whenever the game thinks I should be able to. That's why I like always available menu saving.
Also, the music is great and catchy, no idea what people are on about.
Im rather curious about this game and the series as a whole. I've never played them before. Curious how to see how I'll like it
This was the best game in the series.
I like this main character
I invested 200 hours in the Japanese version I give it a 10 also the oomph or pep system in this game where you turn into a super version of yourself is very random.
I've only ever played DQ8 on the DS, many years ago. I was never into it despite being an FF and JRPG fan in general. I know this is super popular in Japan and is FF's rival to an equal level over there compared to the west where FF seems to be more popular, but with this being now in the PS Plus extra catalog and tons of hours of gameplay, I want to try this one.
about battles being too easy, isn't there an option at the beginning of the game menu to make monsters harder?
This now, or be VERY patient and wait for switch so I can play it at work on my midnight shift?
Get it now, play the heck out of it, and if you feel like getting the Switch version down the road, just trade in your PS4 copy of this towards the Switch version. Or just keep both, like I'm gonna do
I get it but I only plan to play it once. So it's either buy now or wait and enjoy it portably. I probably will wait to see some switch footage to see how it looks.
@@Teremei true man, time (and money) is just so limited when you're an adult that it's hard to play through a game this long multiple times, and even if you have the time, you might just want to spend it with something else.
So if you feel like waiting and seeing the switch version, do it. I also really wanna see it an play this portable, but I've been waiting for too long already, so I'm just gonna grab it this week
I started RPGs way back with DQIV on NES. At this point in my life I want to experience as many great RPGs as possible. And I still have RPGs even as back on the SNES or PS1 that I still haven't beaten. So it's about time yeah. When I was a teen I played FFIV for SNES probably 10-12 times, seriously. But now not only am I older, many great RPGs have come out since then. There is just more to chose from now compared to when SNES was new. The RPG was sort of fresh and new and not a lot of them to chose from in the US.
Depends how good you want it to look. Even the base ps4 runs it sub-1080p. Really cannot wait to see what will they do with the switch,.. just hope it is not a day and night thing, like DQ builders (this one performs quite well on the switch,.. just at 720P) or heroes ,.. that looks more like a vita version than ps4 one (or preform like crap). Either way, will probably get it on both,.. PS4 in 18 hours ,.. Switch in a year of it's release.
Thanks for the in-depth review.
Spoken like a real fan , thumb up
If he's a real fan, then I am a fucking level 99 Dragon Quest cultist. Geez, the standards have become so lax.
the bosses are definitely hard if u don’t go out of your way to grind and in the post game the difficulty spikes too
Somethings wrong with my ps4 game, Keeps running off track and says either the discs scratched or dirty and its brand new and smooth as a babys bottom. Has their been any reports of the light edition (Glitching) From the DLC content being installed before even having a save file?
This just arrived in the mail from Amazon .....never got a game early before so pretty excited that it looks so good
lucky. getting it on steam myself so have to wait till release -_-
have fun. and nice pp disgaea 2 is my favourite strategy game
Lucky.
lol
Been waiting for this since Dragon Quest 8 on my PS2. Already paid and ordered for my PS4 thru Amazon, just a few more days now :). Shame is I heard from friends who play Dragon Quest X (their mmo you can play solo or with people) would really rival FF14 here in the West if they ever release it out of Japan.
Why since 8? There have been a fair few since then.
Sadly not on any system I have access to.
Michael Coffey that’s a bummer! There are quite a few good titles on ds and 3ds!
@ Amanda S 2 dozen I could list easily :)
This and persona 5 are the best jrpgs of this generation without a doubt
Erik made this game for me. Best friend goals and best damage dealer :)
Is there an option for real-time combat like in ninokuni 2 or is it only turn based? Thank you :).
You've never heard of Dragon Quest huh? WOW.
Dragon quest Heroes 1 and 2 have a same combat system with Ni no kuni 2
i havent played a dragon quest game in 10 years.soon as i popped dq11 in it all came rushing back.so pleasantly familiar.one thing i hate tho is the god damn autosave feature and that god damn everpresent mini map
why cant final fantasy stayed like this.
Cause no one buys it when it tries to be like the ridiculously underrated world of ff
Because not all of us want to play the same thing over and over. Yes, when you change things you're going to alienate a section of your fanbase, but for my money I'd take something that's imperfect but fresh over something that's incredibly polished and well crafted but completely unsurprising.
Kitase(director of ff6,7,8 and 10) basically said that he doesn't like to use words such as "ff like" believing this will put developers in something of a creative box and would rather leave the debate on what ff is for critics and future historians, I think this shows that the ff series isn't meant to be a traditional series its basically made to be the polar opposite to DQ.
Because there's no reason to have 2 series dedicated to the same audience. I'm checking out this review to see if there is anything about this game that interests me where other DQ games did nothing for me. I would say no. It looks like the other DQ games. That's why FF varied up the series. Nothing wrong with DQ for those that enjoy it. Just not every jrpg fan's thing
I think they changed modern FFs too much, almost everything has been a lowpoint or a mixed bag after X, I find it really hard to like 15, but World of Final Fantasy was so good. But then you have games like Persona where they just seem to have a naturally progression or refinement of the series.
Don't fight enemies so much, just avoid them, makes the battles so much harder and better
Or choose the "hard mode" on the Draconian Quest menu! There is zero excuse for saying this game is too easy. Laziness in reviewing is what that is.
I still say an HD remaster of DQ8 would be a lot better because DQ8 was one of the greatest games ive ever played (i would say of all time but that would start an argument)
axeace2 DQ11 is considerably a better game all around IMO.
Can you turn off the mini map?
My favourite jrpg game, i love Japanese rpg’s
U should keep the video to the first few hours of the game to avoid spoilers but otherwise a good review
Is it only for PS4?
l have this game in my library and meant to play it but hadn’t gotten around to yet
honestly speaking,i buy it just to pass time while waiting for yakuza 4 remaster but it alot better than what i expect 👍
1:08 Guess Android 21 something to do after Dragon Ball Fighterz
I dont get it, if the game is too easy for you, theres a setting that makes the enemies tougher.
While i agree with some people’s sentiment that the kotaku review appropriately praises the game, and does a really great job of selling it to the audience...this review is actually a bit more accurate and fair (Rogers goes into so much depth that he almost ruins the element of discovery by spoiling every nuance that a player should be experiencing themselves). ...anyway....I’ve been playing the game for about 15 hours now, and the music is so atrocious that it’s quite often ruining my immersion. Also...i found classic dragon quest games to sort of be superficially difficult. It was easy to die if you didn’t realize what invisible level you needed to be in order to beat a boss. And losing to them often meant a significant and annoying waste of time repeating an entire dungeon. Their slow pace, and simplistic systems (that often lacked true strategy) were to blame, and repeating a dungeon that was already boring and tedious was mind numbing. With that said, i find it shocking that this game feels like the easiest in the series so far. the addition of the pep system, and the forging system, both potentially open a lot of strategic options....and all of the quality of life changes make repeating an area much less punishing. So why not capitalize on that system and make the game MORE challenging? It feels like a wasted opportunity (so far). At least the draconian quests add some optional challenge...although I’ve never really liked applying optional challenge, it feels like laziness on the part of the developers so that they can call the game “accessible to all audiences”
It's NO different than choosing the difficulty at the start of the game. It literally IS that. Video games have had difficulty levels since the early days. Get a clue, its only optional if you know nothing.
You must select very easy on every game and bitch that "well the difficulty is optional, and this game is waaay too easy!! Waaah!"
Calling the ability to choose difficulty levels lazy is one of the most stupid things I’ve ever heard. From a game design standpoint an optional difficulty mode requires the developers to add an alternate version of EVERY SINGLE ENEMY TYPE in the game with increased stats which is not even close to lazy for reference here is what that code would look like:
BEAST_KNIGHT:
If hard_mode == true:
Hp = 48
Mp = 18
Atk = 12
Else:
Hp = 32
Mp = 8
Atk = 9
Abilities [JUMP_SLASH];
And that’s a simplified version of said code written from memory and also accessibility matters in games this game is made for a wide range of audience from kids to adults and age absolutely matters in games as a 8 year old you have zero fucking clue what your doing and suck ass and as you grow up you get better at games so for any game that is meant for kids-adults you are going to have the optional difficulty modes because there is a large skill range in your market and before you go and tell everyone on twitter that a salty game dev is explaining game design to you I want you to know I’m not a game dev just a sophomore in high school that likes coding
2:14 I hope that armor can be used at any time and its not only quest related T.T
most unique art style with ni no kuni series. you cant find any better than this one and ni no kuni series (also same Tales games).
Long time DQ fans: You will love it
New players: You will love it if you enjoy old school, NES/SNES style JRPGs.
Oh and I don't think this player understood the party line-up mechanics lol. I see what he was going for, putting less HP characters in the "middle," but was ultimately shooting himself in the foot.
Apperently I enjoy old school NES jrpgs then, I never played any before. I saw a youtuber play it, noticed the Akira Toriyama style, liked the start of the story (Heliodor) and bought it.
40 hours later, I got to act 2, started a new character because of underleveling on the first one (makes the game a lot harder as well which is fine, but companion levels are wonky).
It is that I have a job, or it would have been more.
Well if you are enjoying this, definitely try and check out other older jrpgs, or just other DQ games. VIII is A LOT like XI as a whole. But really like I said, if you enjoy at least one DQ title, you will like them all because they are very similar, but in a really good way.
Great game, fantastic RPG. My only gripes is the missed opportunity to match the beautiful story with a beautiful orchestrated soundtrack instead we get a midi on the entire game . It just takes me away from moments of intensity or emotions.
I know you commented this 3 years ago but now you can enjoy a full orchestrated soundtrack while playing on the switch haha.
Can I change my outfit in this game ?
14 min video "in-depth" meh, watch Tim Roger's video.... the shorter video is 33mins, the other is 2 hours... just saying! 14mins isnt "in-depth" enough.
I couldn't figure out the battling system
Please help me. I found this series tediously slow. I want to enjoy it like so many ppl here. What am I missing with these titles?
Been looking for a good JRPG for a while now, and I think this might just be the one for me. How is the story though?
The story is straightforward. You'll probably guess a few plot points ahead of time, but just when you get comfortable the game likes to throw in often dark twists. The characters on the other hand are amazing, and give the story so much flavor and always help keep the game feeling fresh.
Do you think that the Limited Edition is worth it for $150?
I would have gotten it if I had the money. I'm a big fan.
No.
main game was too easy.post game was tough though, and its when the game really became amazing for me. And its really massive(30+ hours). Not saying the main game was bad, just too easy without draconian options.
I don’t think a symphonic OST would be a good fit. The series has always been MIDI (besides VIII in the west) and I also enjoy the old school sound effects for doors, stairs, etc. it’s great for us long time fans.
Grow Tacoma especially with this series not getting a “real” update in the west for about ten years. I want that nostalgia. They can try new things after they get a little more regular with releases here XD
Theivesx A'Furay - to follow up on my original post... well, I installed the orchestral soundtrack mod 😂
And...? It's a lot better with real music, isn't it?
UKMikey an update broke the orchestral mod and I didn’t bother trying to fix it because I’m playing Forza Horizon 4 and Red Dead 2 😂
I love this game so fucking much, and now im grabbing up the older titles. Just got dq8 for 3DS
I would agree that the game could stand to steer you more towards a certain strategy for some boss battles, but otherwise, if you find the game too easy, you should stop over-grinding levels. The basic mob fights will last a turn or two longer. As well, every boss fight I've encountered so far - about 25 hours into the game - has left me worried that I wouldn't be able to complete it. I've completed a boss fight where my last character had 2 hp remaining. The game is as easy or as tough as you make it. :)
Not to mention the fucking Draconian rules that can make this game impossible if you so choose. Why are all the reviewers missing the god damned Draconian Quest menu?! It's an outright lie to say its easy if you choose to ignore options to make it harder.
@@corneliusagrippa4613 because you cant choose it once you start playing without it. I as a newbie had no idea how hard or easy the game will be, and when I found its too easy for me, it was too late and I didn´t want to start it again
Why won't they release the 3ds version over here?
Last one I played was Dragon Warrior on NES 🤣🤣
if you use these two dracona quest settings, "harder enemies" and "no Flee" your game will be plenty hard. i am having a harder time then persona 5 in the first 15 hours.
Does this game have a beautiful open world, and interesting?
Try the demo✌ its about 10hrs long so youll get a feel for the game
Just picked my copy up on the way to school sucks i have class until 9pm. I think i might be getting sick.
So happy I got a ps4 pro
So happy I got a PC ;) I can play almost every Dragon Quest game on 1 machine!!!! Including every spin off besides Builders!
i hope they do the legend of legaia remake
I might keep that ffxii battle system on... 😎
One thing I noticed in the Footage is that you get Characters Kinda to fast IMO seeing you are level 18 and it seems you have all of em already
Performance on pc?
decent to great
the purring cubs.. I usually run away or avoid em, who wants to kill that ;D also music modpack
Why can't today be next Tuesday 😢
Good review, but nothing tops the Kotaku review
It's great. It's like an 80s flashback that's been touched up with photoshop.
Good to see the gameplay looks the same as dq8. Probably buy this one in the near future. Are there more games with turn based combat for the PS4? Already bought persona 5 btw.
Dragon Quest is not Final Fantasy.
Yeah. It hurts my soul when people compare the two. They went in different directions, that's good.
Gears of War is Not Shin Megami Tensei... this is kinda fun!
No. Not at all. Why should a game have to take a different path? Final fantasy is not dragon quest either. Fan of both games. Final fantasy was an jrpg. Why change a formula. People would have continued to buy. Final fantasy changed. Now look at it....... dragon quest stayed the same still great. Hm.
I miss this kind of battle system. But, the animations during battle seems a little slow. can you choose to speed them up in this game?
Can we customized our main character? Every video I see about this game always have the main character wearing a purple “gown”
You kind of can; *some* of the clothes you get will show up on the characters, but only if you have the whole set.
Yeah, he needs a biker jacket. Toughen that pussy up? Right boys?
Just got mine
"Games of its ilk" sounds bad. I had to double check the definition of 'ilk' as I've only heard that word as a negative. The classic JRPG nature is why I love it. While Final Fantasy has lost its way requiring bravely default & octopath traveler for that old school goodness. Dragon Quest sticks to its roots is a positive for me.
I got into the series when ps2 DQ8 launched with Final Fantasy 12 demo disc & amazing box art cover I was so pleasantly surprised by it I went back to play all the older ones released on DS. Dragon Quest 5 ended up being my favorite & DQ7 being my least favorite. I'm not going to rank 11 yet until I finish it but it appears to be great so far. And cheers to the community who made the mod for the Orchestral OST on PC!
Draconian stronger monster is the best way to play the game!
Veronica really broke my heart
i thought the voice acting was great aswell. couple of times made me chuckle.