Where is the part 2 with your conclusions. I’d love to know what you think is the best way to vlog and walk and talk while recording without having shakey footage. Especially without reducing the shake in post. I have Final Cut Pro but don’t have nor do I want to buy or learn know how to use Adobe after effects. I want to get the new Sony a7siii but I’m not sure which lens to get. There’s a 16-35mm f4 with stabilization that I imagine would be better for vlogging but there’s also a 16-35mm f2.8 but doesn’t have stabilization and I worry that will look shakey when walking & recording or moving around. I’m very interested in figuring this out and if I can get away with the f2.8 without experiencing all the shaking when moving. Where should I grab it? Lens, gorilla mount? etc.
Thanks for the interest! Happy you found it useful. When I made the video I got like 3 views in 3 months so the conclusion of the video was that no one except myself was interested 😂 Glad we are 2 now haha. My conclusion was: - Walking shots filming myself: Lens IS only. The wider view from not using EIS visually offsets the shakier image. - Filming forward, walking: Lens IS + EIS. - Filming forward, standing still: Lens IS + EIS. Gives you "tripod stability". Warp Stabilizer only works on telephoto, if whole image moves in one plane, otherwise never use. Nooowwwwww... situation is changing. Sony a7S III won the video battle... AND as you point out, the equivalent Sony lens to the RF 15-35 f/2.8 is NOT stabilized. Instead the body has IBIS, which is not the same, because you risk introduce the same wobble as Warp Stabilizer does. This brings this question back to the drawing board. Once I've gotten my a7S III production version, I will re-do this video with the new setup. See my video "Divorce" for more thoughts on this topic of Lens IS vs IBIS etc.
I found you through the MacBook Review a few weeks ago! And I have to say you’re chanel is so underrated and I would highly advice to keep on making videos! If you put out such content your chanel will blow up in the future! The quality of Your videos is superb! Really like to watch them!!
Wow, thank you for that. That is really really encouraging to hear. Especially after making videos for months which like 2 people watched - my wife and my mom. Lol. THANK YOU. Hope to deliver value to you going forward. Then wait until you realize I have 2 more channels, which literally have made quite a few in the audience rich, and it's SUPER HARD to get new viewers even to those on RUclips 😂 Most people simply click where RUclips tells them to click. Few use their own mind.
Physical stabilization will always be the best, but as you pointed out that has limits. Even though it can smooth out your shots, one factor that software stabilization (including the software-based stabilizer in the EOS-R body) can't fix is the motion blur caused by shakiness. So gimbals, lens-IS and IBIS will always be the best solutions. Motion tracking the eyes as you did here provided a fairly satisfactory result though!
Best review ever. I think iPhone on glide cam with ultra wide lens(or ultrawide attachment) can be smoother and lighter weight than the eos-r, and significantly more pocketable and convenient. It will have possibly degraded optical quality, depending on which wide-angle lens/attachment you use, and getting that clean is harder than on dslr, but in good lighting it should be quite useable for run-and-gun. Having said that I love my eos-r and would love to hand hold an r5 with is lens.
Absolutely right!!!! Check the first seconds of my video titled "Gratefulness..." (which reappears a few times). Everyone thinks I shot that scene with a drone. Actually I just walked casually with my iPhone 11 Pro. I didn't even try to walk smoothly, it was just a casual family weekend "souvenir clip" that I didn't expect to use for anything. That's how good the stabilization is! So you are so right.
@@ctoLarssonTECH I think r5 and a7s3 are great for a studio cameras, or great outdoors if you have a crew, but a good smartphone on a stabilizer(selphie stick, mini-gimbal, mini-glidecam etc) wired to audio(lapel mic or the right headset) might be the most reliable and easy-to-use thing ever for recording walk-around town in the daylight by yourself. It fits run-and-gun mentality a lot more. DSLR/mirrorless is better than smartphone for specific uses including: When you need to record motion in low light When you need extreme reach or specialty lenses When have time/space to set up a studio type shot and need to make a full production. DSLR/mirrorless are ok around town when you need to film your surroundings. They aren't known for their quick setup time in movie mode. All the traditional tv shows and movies that use big cameras have camera-men to operate them. The most noticed aspects of run-around-town videos and travel are: 1: audio 2: stability 3: motion All 3 perhaps more easily obtainable to independent film shooters on a smartphone setup than on a mirror-less camera setup.
With a 95% confidence level the likelihood of finding an entertaining yet educational channel with only 847 subscribers: zilch. But now let's evaluate the posterior data. We know that I am now typing this comment and thus have in fact found this channel. From this we can draw the conclusion that making videos about the R5 is what builds a channel the fastest. Greetings from California.
The probability is equal to finding a channel with 1.1 million views despite only 998 subscribers, because surely no channel is gets 1,000 views per subscriber? Can a channel be loved that much? Maybe, if the music is beautiful enough 😉 This is in stark contrast to the probability of Henrik Nordberg being Swedish, despite living in California. That probability is currently 95%, but may quickly drop to 0% if it turns out untrue.
Haha, love the intro, greetings from a fellow Swede in Beijing ☀️😄 Can't wait to try it back home next time ❤ Stockholm is beautiful! Had some issues with wobbling at the R6 when vlogging but will try without the camera stabilization.
i feel sorry that such effort and level of educational video making showcasing great tools and equipment only gets to have few views likes and subs ,you keep doing what you do man and you'll go miles , much love and respect man
Yes the Warp stabilizer totally kills the moving head shots. If not considering postproduction, I like the lens IS with gorillapod, and I think the Lens IS + EIS + Gorillapod often produced the best results. What is interesting+++ here is that we DON'T get the background wobble with the sensor OIS, see Peter McKinnon's R5 video published today a few hours ago. Did you see it? That background wobble is distracts SO MUCH from the subject imo. I'd rather have camera shake. If it's that bad, let's hope the OIS can at least be switched off on the R5/R6.
Haha, it's real though I cut a few of the warp stabilizer combinations - because they are all unwatchable. I actually filmed it a year ago, I just had to re-upload it because RUclips had some issues with my OG channel created 2007. So much for early adopter loyalty lol
Very impressive. TL;DR: all the stabilizations + GorillaPod in some mode + the best warp stabilizer for the job (manually tracked for eyes, automatic for a landscape) produced nice results. The warp stabilizer is objectively terrible when your face is in the shot, unless you track in After Effects. That was by far my favorite shot. The vanilla warp stabilizer did pretty well with the forward walking shots. I found that the extra weight of the GorillaPod increases the mass of the camera system and reduces shake by requiring more energy to move the camera rapidly. I liked the holding of the GorillaPod at the base, but I think any mode with the GorillaPod was better. I used a similar stabilization technique to correct timelapse footage shot from a large boat (tracking the mountains in the scene). Sometimes Adobe needs some guidance :) Nice video.
Thanks for TL;DR'ing it mate! :-) YES I agree 100%. Lens IS ON + EIS + Gorillapod for weight + eyetracking for face / warpstabilze for landscape made the best results. INTERESTING is that those results are wayyyyyy better than the background wobble with the sensor OIS, see Peter McKinnon's R5 video published today. That background wobble is killing me, distracts from the subject. I'd much rather have camera shake. Just hope it's a preproduction issue, or that the OIS can at least be switched off, because Lens IS only was at least acceptable.
Great video... but can I suggest something.. drop the color grade!! It’s distracting and your skin tones are horrible! If shooting in log just rec709 the footage if not then faithful with contrast and saturation dropped slightly... This is a kind of tutorial video as such it does not require a film grade to purvey a mood or story.. it’s not a short film.. Now this is a suggestion do what you wish it’s your channel but trust me it will be better as your channel is a technical one.. But great info and very much helped and is very welcome just my 2 cents! 😊
You're absolutely right. To my defense I shot that one over a year ago. I had to re-upload it because RUclips had some issues with my OG-channel from 2007. How do you find the recent videos?
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exquisite grading, btw
Thanks, I do like it too :-)
Where is the part 2 with your conclusions. I’d love to know what you think is the best way to vlog and walk and talk while recording without having shakey footage. Especially without reducing the shake in post. I have Final Cut Pro but don’t have nor do I want to buy or learn know how to use Adobe after effects. I want to get the new Sony a7siii but I’m not sure which lens to get. There’s a 16-35mm f4 with stabilization that I imagine would be better for vlogging but there’s also a 16-35mm f2.8 but doesn’t have stabilization and I worry that will look shakey when walking & recording or moving around. I’m very interested in figuring this out and if I can get away with the f2.8 without experiencing all the shaking when moving. Where should I grab it? Lens, gorilla mount? etc.
Thanks for the interest! Happy you found it useful. When I made the video I got like 3 views in 3 months so the conclusion of the video was that no one except myself was interested 😂 Glad we are 2 now haha. My conclusion was:
- Walking shots filming myself: Lens IS only. The wider view from not using EIS visually offsets the shakier image.
- Filming forward, walking: Lens IS + EIS.
- Filming forward, standing still: Lens IS + EIS. Gives you "tripod stability".
Warp Stabilizer only works on telephoto, if whole image moves in one plane, otherwise never use.
Nooowwwwww... situation is changing. Sony a7S III won the video battle... AND as you point out, the equivalent Sony lens to the RF 15-35 f/2.8 is NOT stabilized. Instead the body has IBIS, which is not the same, because you risk introduce the same wobble as Warp Stabilizer does. This brings this question back to the drawing board. Once I've gotten my a7S III production version, I will re-do this video with the new setup.
See my video "Divorce" for more thoughts on this topic of Lens IS vs IBIS etc.
I found you through the MacBook Review a few weeks ago! And I have to say you’re chanel is so underrated and I would highly advice to keep on making videos! If you put out such content your chanel will blow up in the future! The quality of Your videos is superb! Really like to watch them!!
Wow, thank you for that. That is really really encouraging to hear. Especially after making videos for months which like 2 people watched - my wife and my mom. Lol. THANK YOU. Hope to deliver value to you going forward.
Then wait until you realize I have 2 more channels, which literally have made quite a few in the audience rich, and it's SUPER HARD to get new viewers even to those on RUclips 😂 Most people simply click where RUclips tells them to click. Few use their own mind.
CTO LARSSON - TECH Really looking forward for more content! It would also be interesting to see more about the Workflow with your MacBook! 🤓👌🏼
I agree.
Physical stabilization will always be the best, but as you pointed out that has limits. Even though it can smooth out your shots, one factor that software stabilization (including the software-based stabilizer in the EOS-R body) can't fix is the motion blur caused by shakiness. So gimbals, lens-IS and IBIS will always be the best solutions. Motion tracking the eyes as you did here provided a fairly satisfactory result though!
Exactly mate! I said almost those exact words in that a7S III video I published a few days back and I even included an example!
Best review ever. I think iPhone on glide cam with ultra wide lens(or ultrawide attachment) can be smoother and lighter weight than the eos-r, and significantly more pocketable and convenient. It will have possibly degraded optical quality, depending on which wide-angle lens/attachment you use, and getting that clean is harder than on dslr, but in good lighting it should be quite useable for run-and-gun. Having said that I love my eos-r and would love to hand hold an r5 with is lens.
Absolutely right!!!! Check the first seconds of my video titled "Gratefulness..." (which reappears a few times). Everyone thinks I shot that scene with a drone. Actually I just walked casually with my iPhone 11 Pro. I didn't even try to walk smoothly, it was just a casual family weekend "souvenir clip" that I didn't expect to use for anything. That's how good the stabilization is! So you are so right.
@@ctoLarssonTECH I got the same model.....did you use the ultrawide 12mm equivalent lens or the regular 30ish normalwide lens?
@@ctoLarssonTECH I think r5 and a7s3 are great for a studio cameras, or great outdoors if you have a crew, but a good smartphone on a stabilizer(selphie stick, mini-gimbal, mini-glidecam etc) wired to audio(lapel mic or the right headset) might be the most reliable and easy-to-use thing ever for recording walk-around town in the daylight by yourself. It fits run-and-gun mentality a lot more.
DSLR/mirrorless is better than smartphone for specific uses including:
When you need to record motion in low light
When you need extreme reach or specialty lenses
When have time/space to set up a studio type shot and need to make a full production.
DSLR/mirrorless are ok around town when you need to film your surroundings.
They aren't known for their quick setup time in movie mode.
All the traditional tv shows and movies that use big cameras have camera-men to operate them.
The most noticed aspects of run-around-town videos and travel are:
1: audio
2: stability
3: motion
All 3 perhaps more easily obtainable to independent film shooters on a smartphone setup than on a mirror-less camera setup.
brilliant Video Sir, i really like your videos. With love from Kerala, india
Thanks a lot for saying that. Love India! Never been to Kerala, will have to go some day!
With a 95% confidence level the likelihood of finding an entertaining yet educational channel with only 847 subscribers: zilch. But now let's evaluate the posterior data. We know that I am now typing this comment and thus have in fact found this channel. From this we can draw the conclusion that making videos about the R5 is what builds a channel the fastest. Greetings from California.
The probability is equal to finding a channel with 1.1 million views despite only 998 subscribers, because surely no channel is gets 1,000 views per subscriber? Can a channel be loved that much? Maybe, if the music is beautiful enough 😉
This is in stark contrast to the probability of Henrik Nordberg being Swedish, despite living in California. That probability is currently 95%, but may quickly drop to 0% if it turns out untrue.
Haha, love the intro, greetings from a fellow Swede in Beijing ☀️😄 Can't wait to try it back home next time ❤ Stockholm is beautiful! Had some issues with wobbling at the R6 when vlogging but will try without the camera stabilization.
i feel sorry that such effort and level of educational video making showcasing great tools and equipment only gets to have few views likes and subs ,you keep doing what you do man and you'll go miles , much love and respect man
Thank you for the kind words and the empathy. I'm happy learning, if no one is watching it's their loss 😆
Warp stabe is sooo bad while walking, I couldn't believe. But even in the controlled move shot it introduces some weird shimmering effect.
Yes warp stabilization is really really bad. It words well on say a landscape shot where everything is far away and moves in one plane.
Can you do a video with the r5 or r6 with 8 stops
At the 19 min mark. Warp stabilizer is distorting the image quite a bit. Unusable in my opinion. I like the IS with the pod on.
Ok, so the After Effects version is a lot better but still distorts / wiggles. Not usable.
Yes the Warp stabilizer totally kills the moving head shots. If not considering postproduction, I like the lens IS with gorillapod, and I think the Lens IS + EIS + Gorillapod often produced the best results.
What is interesting+++ here is that we DON'T get the background wobble with the sensor OIS, see Peter McKinnon's R5 video published today a few hours ago. Did you see it? That background wobble is distracts SO MUCH from the subject imo. I'd rather have camera shake. If it's that bad, let's hope the OIS can at least be switched off on the R5/R6.
nice way to start a video! haha!
Hope you enjoyed it!
Excellent video and very informative, you've just earned yourself another sub!
Thanks a lot mate, appreciate it!
96 versions of stabilization... You in a nutshell - perseverance beyond mortal humans :)
Learned from the best mate ;-)
Damn, I double-checked if it's a April's Fool video ;)
Haha, it's real though I cut a few of the warp stabilizer combinations - because they are all unwatchable. I actually filmed it a year ago, I just had to re-upload it because RUclips had some issues with my OG channel created 2007. So much for early adopter loyalty lol
thank you so much for a great video.
Glad you liked it mate!
That is what i call a very professional review, very impressive, thank you so much for a great video.
Thanks for those kind words, really appreciate!
Very impressive. TL;DR: all the stabilizations + GorillaPod in some mode + the best warp stabilizer for the job (manually tracked for eyes, automatic for a landscape) produced nice results.
The warp stabilizer is objectively terrible when your face is in the shot, unless you track in After Effects. That was by far my favorite shot. The vanilla warp stabilizer did pretty well with the forward walking shots. I found that the extra weight of the GorillaPod increases the mass of the camera system and reduces shake by requiring more energy to move the camera rapidly. I liked the holding of the GorillaPod at the base, but I think any mode with the GorillaPod was better.
I used a similar stabilization technique to correct timelapse footage shot from a large boat (tracking the mountains in the scene). Sometimes Adobe needs some guidance :) Nice video.
Thanks for TL;DR'ing it mate! :-) YES I agree 100%.
Lens IS ON + EIS + Gorillapod for weight + eyetracking for face / warpstabilze for landscape made the best results.
INTERESTING is that those results are wayyyyyy better than the background wobble with the sensor OIS, see Peter McKinnon's R5 video published today. That background wobble is killing me, distracts from the subject. I'd much rather have camera shake.
Just hope it's a preproduction issue, or that the OIS can at least be switched off, because Lens IS only was at least acceptable.
Great video... but can I suggest something.. drop the color grade!! It’s distracting and your skin tones are horrible!
If shooting in log just rec709 the footage if not then faithful with contrast and saturation dropped slightly...
This is a kind of tutorial video as such it does not require a film grade to purvey a mood or story..
it’s not a short film..
Now this is a suggestion do what you wish it’s your channel but trust me it will be better as your channel is a technical one..
But great info and very much helped and is very welcome just my 2 cents! 😊
You're absolutely right. To my defense I shot that one over a year ago. I had to re-upload it because RUclips had some issues with my OG-channel from 2007. How do you find the recent videos?
CTO LARSSON - TECH your content is great.. new videos are great 👍 it was only a suggestion and by no way a criticism.
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Appreciate it Swag!
lol