The loss of signal while gaming would be an absolute dealbreaker for me personally. That TV would be going back to the store faster than you can say Max Luv . LOL
I wonder if the wire from the One Connect Box to the tv is too thin to push all that bandwidth??? But I'm just guessing because the S90C & S90D without the 1 Connect Box doesn't have this issue 🤦🏿🤷🏿
Yes, thank you for talking about the 144hz issues. At 120hz I'm fine no drops but at 144hz it happens every 30 seconds to 8 minutes. It makes 144hz unplayable currently.
I think the issue is with HDMI 2.1 not supporting more than 120 Hz on 4k. It would be interesting if some app on the tv could reach this because it's not limited by HDMI
@@AllAboutTKK Unfortunately it doesn't for me. Blacking out every 10 seconds - 5 minutes doesn't really mean to me that it can do 144hz in 4k. I guess its working for some people. Strange it doesn't work for me.
It seems to be the OneConnect box. No one has reported this problem with the S90C and it's been confirmed that the OneConnect has a lower bitrate for video than full HDMI2.1 (40 vs 48 gps)
That’s what I like about your videos because anyone can slap a review on here and call it a great TV but I’m more interested to see what the TV is like on a day-to-day basis. I’m looking forward to seeing your thoughts on the day-to-day use of the G3. It makes sense on why Sony takes their time releasing their flagship TV’s.
@@AllAboutTKK Cool. I watched Plasma TV’s video comparing the S90c and the S95c. I’m beginning to understand his point about capping the Oled TV’s at around 600-700 nits. I have a 55 class Sony A8F in my kitchen and that TV still looks beautiful even in the daytime. It’s the Contrast that makes the Oled TV’s look as good as they do. After seeing all of the issues that you’re having with the S95c and the S90c, not to mention all of the firmware issues that the s95b has, I’m glad I exchanged my s95b for the A95k. Anyway, I’m looking forward to seeing your video about the LG G3. Thanks for listening to me rant.
I haven't done enough testing yet, but I feel like the signal drops are possibly linked to G-Sync/ VRR. I haven't had any when turned off, but I haven't played all that much with it off either. I do know that the drop outs you get when changing video settings are shorter when G-Sync is off.
I just bought an S95C. Loaded halo infinite on my XboxSeriesX to show off 120hz and BOOM signal drop out. It was unplayable. Every few seconds it would show the black screen with skinny wheel. I googles my fingers off and saw something saying to turn off HDR10+. I tried that and haven’t had an issue since. I turn HDR10+ on and immediately get drop outs. I also hear that using fiber optic HDMI cables can help but haven’t tried that yet.
I'm sending this TV back. During startup my tv stayed on black screen for 5 minutes. Also several black screens during gaming with the ps5. The artifacts on the screen while watching normal TV shows is irritating. When someone moves their face or moves their hands quickly, you'll see it stutter across the screen. The aggressive tone mapping is intense to see in some games. I have tryed every setting to make it better but nothing helped. Thanks for the great review. I wish I had seen your review before I bought this TV. Fortunately, I can still make use of the thirty day withdrawal right
That VRR Input and Game mode section...there go my dreams. Will have to wait longer, hopefully Samsung fixes whatever bugs they have. Always some issues or the other with them. And talk about preparing the room lol, I was putting up the insulation, black-out curtains today. Seems like still the reasonable enough choice is a LG, so the room is good to prepare anyway for an OLED. Sony is just too expensive, barely get any discounts.
Samsung really needs to get their act together with the QC on their TVs. If you're dropping several grand on a premium product, you should get premium quality. The tv should just work right out of the box with minimal tweaking required from the customer.
Thanks for your observations and they were really helpful to hear. I know it’ll be really expensive, but I’ll be interested in seeing about the forthcoming Sony version, plus whatever manufacturers take QD-OLED in 2024.
Don’t know that I’ve ever read a comment from you. If I have and don’t remember please forgive me. Thank you for taking the time to watch this video. I’m glad it was in any way helpful.
@@AllAboutTKK you’re welcome my brother. Just for your information, I went to my local Electrical Superstore over here in the UK, and saw the display model of the S95B, and recoiled in horror that it was bent inwards. The representative there understood my concern, saying that the three that they had for display purposes were exactly the same! Didn’t fill me with confidence regarding their quality and I hope the new one is better built.
@@jasmadahar9089 I went through 3 s95b last year I had to exchange to come to be ok with what I ended up with. Many did not believe me, if it’s bent in the showroom then that means there was a serious issue
I had this dropping issue at first with a s95c/4090 but had to change my HDMI cables to a shorter one for cable management and the dropping issue stopped with that change. The old cables were 4090 to cx with no issues
Fresh cables to no resolves. Different GPU and tv same issue. Different as in 2x s95c from the first one and this one. RTX 3080i and 3090. RTX 4090 on s90c.
I'm Glad U Pointed Out Just All The Flaws, That Samsung Operations System Has With One's Devices! I Think 🤔 ( DESPITE All The Good Things About The QLED'S!) It DEFINITELY HAS A CPU OR ( THEY DEFINITELY NEED TO CHANGE THAT OPERATION SYSTEM SOFTWARE THEY HAVE WITH THESE SAMSUNG 📺 🖥 📺!) OR OPERATIONS PROBLEMS WITH DEVICES! SAMSUNG To Made Everything For Samsung S95B Ect.Ect Instead Of Really Focusing On People's Avr Receivers And All, Without Connecting Everything To The Samsung TV ( IT'S HORRIBLE AND I ECHO WHAT U WAS SAYING AND SOME CAUSE MOST DEFINITELY HAVE MY OWN ISSUES WITH THIS TV!!!!!
The S95b and its firmware updates ruining Hgig mode is a real issue for me, which is why it's not the $1300 option it used to be. I am looking at getting an s90c 55in, but am honestly afraid to update the firmware unless absolutely necessary.
I can say that out of the box you’d be happy, but I find it hard to buy that even with a beefed 95B. Of course you’ll make an executive choice that is best for yourself.
Seems like the TV may need a firmware update, but then again, can understand the hesitancy from the S95B brightness days.. Tough call. Seems to me this TV shines at 4K & light-controlled room. Challenging to run lower res & in bright room.
This is interesting... I have a 77" S90C coming on Tuesday, and like you, I am running PLEX on a PC running a 2080 Super. I also have a latest gen Apple TV 4K that I use to consume content on (RUclips, PLEX, Disney and Amazon...) It will be intersesting to see if I have the same issues. I was thinking about canceling the S90C order and getting the A95K, as I was debating between the two quite hard. I appreciated you mentioning that you still hold the S95C above the Sony. I too was like you and chose the Samsung for the 77" display
Thanks for a great video. I ended up by the s85b recently, love the picture and even sound not too bad but there are still some issues that do ruin the overall experience, guess that’s Samsung.
Great stuff man as always! It's gonna be interesting to see what happens going forward, rumour is Samsung just ordered millions of WOLED panels from LG that they might start using this upcoming quarter. Looking forward to see what they come up with. Probably killing the Qled crap for good.
I read an article that stated Samsung ordered 77" and 83" WOLEDS from LG. It's possible that Samsung might introduce a third OLED series into the mix. I don't think they're completely giving up on QD OLED.
What is forcing this deal are several problems. To clarify some things first. LG Display and Samsung Display are panel manufacturers. LG Electronics is LG Display’s parent company and makes TVs, but buys panels from LG Display and maybe other LCD manufacturers. Samsung Electronics is a TV manufacturer that buys QD-OLED panels from Samsung Display and LCD panels from other companies since Samsung Display shut down its money-losing LCD business. The first problem is China. China has sold LCD panels at prices so low that both LG Display and Samsung Display have quit producing LCDs their factories in South Korea. Samsung Display has quit making LCDs altogether because selling them at a loss is bad for business. LG Display still makes LCDs in its factory in China but at half capacity. That factory also makes WOLED panels alongside its sister factories in South Korea. China’s LCD factories have produced too many LCDs, driving prices too low for all of them to survive. The Chinese government is now forcing many LCD manufacturers to merge and to cut production to try to allow some to survive. The Chinese government is also prioritizing its own TV manufacturers like TCL and Hisense in who can buy panels if an LCD shortage develops. This means that the supply of cheap LCDs to non-Chinese companies is likely to end. The second problem is that Samsung Display is maxed out making QD-OLED panels and cannot ramp up production fast enough. Samsung Electronics cannot buy enough QD-OLED panels from Samsung Display to overwhelm other TV manufacturers the way the former did before the LCD crisis. Samsung Electronics needs to buy panels from someone that it can trust, and Taiwan and Japan probably do not have enough supply for Samsung Electronics to make up for any possible Chinese LCD shortages. The third problem is that LG Display has a lot of unused production capacity, but is broke. It needs another customer. LG Display is hurt both by the LCD situation in China since its Chinese factory produces LCDs and by QD-OLED suddenly dethroning WOLED as the best TV technology. LG Display refused to do anything about shipping defective WOLED panels with blatant dirty screen effects like pink tints for a long time, causing customers to flee to QD-OLED as much as possible once that came out. LG Display finally either fixed whatever caused these defects or improved its quality control to reject the defective screens before they can get shipped this year. Whatever dirty screen effects are left are so minor that they generally can’t be found unless the TV is put side by side with a QD-OLED TV which apparently naturally does not usually have the dirty screen effect problem. LG Display also rolled out MLA technology this year to try to approach QD-OLED quality by boosting total brightness and color brightness, allowing WOLED to display colors that it previously could not display. Samsung Electronics previously tried to buy WOLED panels from LG Display, but since LG Display was previously profitable then and Samsung Electronics wanted to buy WOLED panels at prices below what LG Electronics paid LG Display for WOLED panels, LG Display rejected that offer. Samsung Electronics can’t be too picky on both where it can buy quality panels and its bidding price for panels anymore. LG Display can’t be too picky about both its asking price for panels and who it wants to sell to, but now has plenty of quality panels to sell now that it has fixed the dirty screen effect problem well enough. Both companies reached a deal since both companies’ problems largely mutually solve each other. Reuters first broke the news about this deal between Samsung Electronics and LG Display, so I find the news about the deal much more credible than just a rumor. See www.reuters.com/technology/lg-display-supply-oled-tv-panels-samsung-elec-sources-2023-05-16/ for a reference.
Great video as always TK. Sorry about the issues your having on your 95C. Try the firmware route and see if it fixes it. That being said. LOVE those Klipsch speakers you have buddy. Gonna have me a set soon when the funds allow. Max Luv.
Thanks bro. I can live with the issues for now, there hasn’t been a firmware update announced yet that has my interest and so I just wanna stick with Vanilla, tv is kicking ass in so many ways.
Thanks for the hands up. Has the stuttering video playback issue been fixed for you? Can you elaborate a bit on what content caused the issues and if the fix has negative side effects?
I have the hdmi blackout issue with an RTX 4080 and not with any of my consoles … I discovered that I can eventually stop the blackouts if I manually force a handshake several times and it finally connects without issue. I have to turn off and back on game mode multiple times- usually 3 to 10 times in a row and finally it will stop. It only works if it’s 120hz or less for me at 4k, VRR, and HDR. I had a RTX 3080 before in this same computer that had the same issue. I finally got too annoyed by this and tech support will be coming out soon to hopefully replace the One Box which has fixed some people’s issue with this.
I think you’re right. A firmware update will eventually clear these glitches up. My s95b had some annoying connectivity issues that all cleared up after a couple updates
I knew it. As of right now I feel I can live with these issues, probably going to wait down the line for an update after I can confirm there is one that I will really need. Appreciate you chiming in on the matter.
@@AllAboutTKK I do have a question shouldn’t the patches have already been implemented from the beginning? Isn’t it like a video game why should we wait for updates to fix the product when we can implement them from the beginning and get them out the door with no glitches?
I get that jittery weird motion in Plex as well on my Apple TV 4k, but I am on using a LG C3. I honestly think it's software related.. and nothing to do with the TV. It just started happening a month ago for me.
The picture quality is amazing, but I think it's probably better to wait until next year when they have the whites and blacks looking more pure (hopefully). If they can do that and fix the usual Samsung kinks such as not having to go to the home screen to change the input, then it'll pretty much be a perfect TV.
@@kevkeisha it terms of UI and pure black/white I would say yes, but there's no denying that the picture quality looks better overall on the S95C, at least in my opinion. I also like how it has a one connect box. That's a game changer for a lot of people, especially those who want to wall mount it, just makes it so much easier. Yes, I'm curious to see how the A95L performs as well, but it will likely be very expensive.
I have a SUPER ANNOYING issue. 7800X3D with an RTX4080 and my 55S90C. I can watch a RUclips video or whatever with 0 issues. But say I’m looking at a sensor table running benchmarks etc. the TV will go black for a few seconds and come back. It’ll happen multiple times over and over. Happens on 4k@144hz and 120hz. I haven’t been able to replicate the issue with 4k@60hz. I’m 99% sure that it’s a firmware issue on the TV. I hope they fix it haha. I haven’t tried playing games on it yes, as it’s a fresh build. Lemme know if you find an answer dude! Btw I’m running the current firmware ( forgot the number )
I think something could be up with your one connect box. I have a S95c 55. I haven’t tried QHD but I’m not having any of the input switching/signal loss issues you are having.
Oh there are others claiming the same issues. Then the one thing shown, you’ve have to try to replicate the scenario to see if it does jt. Have a device on, turn Pc on and have it set for game mode at 144Hz then switch to it. Again it gets turned on while the first device is on. This same issue happened with the first S95C also.
I wonder why the match dynamic range is causing the tv to stutter. I mean if it detects hdr content and displays it then you don’t need the setting. But match frame rate should be sending the content in the original frame rate and allow the tv to interlace 24hz signal properly instead of a 60hz signal. I wonder if it being a 144hz panel is causing it to struggle a bit more as well This it why I always ask how’s 24p content look lol
@@AllAboutTKK awesome! Haven't seen that. I'll check it out. I'm upgrading from an LG B7 with burn in so I imagine it'll be worlds ahead on the experience.
S90C here. No weird dropout/crash issues other than the raised blacks. I can live with them considering the great colours. Seems the S95C one connect box causes problems.
Let’s talk about what you have connected to the S90c. Both of these suffer from the same issues of inconsistency on gaming pc in 4k at 144Hz for me. The one connect box isn’t the proven problem child. I can confirm that.
I believe ive had the studdering issue but only on youtube content watching a 4k video of someone walking in japan. Idk if this was because my wifi or if its the same issue you are having. I will have to try your fix for it.. also i have an issue with the fire stick 4k max dropping resolution with hulu
Thank you for putting in work to help the consumer make an educated choice to upgrade with the right tv for us. I went with the 65” S90C. Do you have/know any pic settings, for movies(4K UHD Blu Ray) and gaming(have series x and PS5) and again thank you for a fair unbiased(non-fanboy) review and recommendation
I feel you to pay that kind of money and to have those issues is unfair to consumers , we need to hold these companies accountable , these tvs should be tested fully test , apple tv , bluray movies ,plex , motion handling,etc , I hate 2 beat a dead horse but I have had my Panasonic LZ2000 for over a year with 2 updates and none for motion problems and image problems That's because they tune there tvs tuned by a Hollywood colurists and thiey also Hollywood tuned the audio in thete tvs .We all should be able to buy a tv with no updates nothing should have to be fixed when you buy a high end tv , when buy a Benz you don't. Have to keep taking it back to the dealer so they have to update the cars computer software.
I have a Samsung qn91b let's sometimes gets the same effect as you with gaming mode when I am switching back to my PC which has gaming mode enabled. Also I would ask you to see if your starter or problems could be related to transcoding problems. You should be able to see on the server if the video is transcoding. Then you need to see how much CPU power it is using.
Is this in reference to the merging issues? This happens with any gaming source, pc, ps5 or Xbox. This was resolved with the latest update from a video I showed after this one was made.
You got 6-7 dropouts within 2-3 hours? Damn I would be happy then. I get the dropouts every 2 seconds or so, sometimes even with only 120Hz. But only on PC with my 4080. I‘ve tried four different certified HDMI cables and get no luck. How long is your HDMI cable? And did you connect the OCB with the short or the long cable? VRR enabled?
Tkk it only only does that half screen switching thing with the apple tv. I returned my apple tv and got a chrome cast and it never happend again. I think its a apple tv thing with samsung more then a samsung thing.
I have a problem that’s annoying on my s95c, I’m playing a game and put it in pause then it dims after 5 mins and when I resume, it stays dim and it lags like hell
I'm considering pairing either the Sony A95L, LG G3, or the Samsung S95V with the Nakamichi Dragon 11.4.6 (or Sony HT-A9 If I lose patience waiting for the Nakamichi).
yeah I am trying to see how Q900C is for gaming its a 8k tv that does not cost an arm and a leg not enough people are using 8k tv's as a pc monitor so I might have to just buy one and see how it does I am torn between s95c LG G3 and now Q900c
Wow I have the same struggle as you😅 did a lot of research. 8K is nice but the colors look much better on the QD-OLED. I don't want to spend 10K if it's not the best TV of the year.. Im a huge gamer and like immersive picture pictures but what if 8K QD-OLED Comes next year or better technology? Maybe I'm going with a cheaper QD-OLED Monitor..
@@michaeljordan27 I mean if money was not an object I would go for 8k oled with lg lol but I don't have 30k laying around so try to spend below $5000 on a tv yeah you have a point 8k qd oled might be a thing next year but it will be stupid expensive so if I can get 8k I can then just run the 8k in 4k @ 120hz mode if the games don't run 8k that well I have alot of old games that I know will run 8k good since I had the dell up3218k back in 2017 when I did alot of my 8k testing so I know what 8k looks like and its a night and day difference vs 4k when gaming on certain titles but my end game tv would be 8k oled lol
Yh let's hope we get 8K oled for under 10K. Still cheaper than micro-led. Some people say 8K isn't necessary and u don't see a difference. But people like us with an eye for details. We know😉👁️wish there would be more 8K monitors for gaming like the dell but with more Hz.
Sent mine back for the same reason. Screen tearing when switching from Xbox to Apple tv. Heard an update was released that fixed this issue though. Been without a TV for months. Waiting for A95l reviews.
I don’t have a fix. It’s a serious problem because it is random. A viewer commented and said he did a new shorter cable. I have done cable swaps. No resolve my way.
yo tk i got the 77in S90C since friday so far loving it havent updated but i am considering it tho having this wierd issue where in dark scenes the screen sometimes goes really dark like raised blacks for like a second then goes back not often but u can notice it , have you seen this? if so whats the fix or should i just bite the bullet and update and hope for the best lol thanks bro
Thanks for this video. I recently bought the S90C in my gaming room and I am regretting it. I have the LG C3 downstairs and IMO the picture looks better, clearer, brighter, faster. The Samsung image out of the box is a lot of work to calibrate vs LG. The contrast takes a lot of adjusting to get right. The AI doesn’t match properly so I’m always adjusting per game. The TV is glitchy. When it’s firing on all cylinders then it’s gorgeous. But she’s high maintenance!!
Wait does that bug happen every time u switch from apple TV to PC input? It cant be no? That expensive and new TV to have some bugs like that... I am using Nvidia Shield and switching a lot between Shield and PC input.
No. Happens if I turn on input (when you turn on input that signal is activating) what is happening is that the two inputs are crossing. It’s something within VRR because turning off GM stops it, still, it’s an inconvenience and a flaw.
@@AllAboutTKK Ah ok tnx, so should be fine when i just switch to pc hdmi input. Do u use game mode picture always when ur on pc? I mean when ur not in game, just on desktop , browsing etc..
my C2 and my Xbox Series X have a similar HDMI handshake issue. it's the most annoying thing ever. you go to turn the Xbox on and sometimes it will work and sometimes itll remain on the no signal screen, you know the one that flashes the artwork screensavers. it works more than it dont, but its still annoying. apparently its a pretty big issue with the C2 and XSX. one of the main reasons I went with the C2 was because i didnt want to deal with this kind of BS.
A simple question, Is it the hdmi 2.1 cable, is it 48 Gbps? On the s95b I had an issue with my ps5 input taking long to load especially when vrr mode was engaged, but when I used an updated cable, the input lag went away.
@@AllAboutTKK cool but it’s something worth looking into. I just got a new house and the low voltage wiring guys claimed to have installed an in wall hdmi 2.1 cable (so I could mount the tv on a wall and everything including power and hdmi is in the wall behind the tv). But their cable is shit… very long latency to switch over from the Apple TV to the ps5. I used an anker hdmi 2.1 cable 48 gbps and no more issues. Also, with the nvidia cards I wonder if a Radeon card has the same issue ?
@@j340_official nah these cables are A1. This isn’t an issue on anything but this tv. But I feel you, I use the same brand and type of cables on every OLED.
I have the same issue after coming back from a new s95c where the old one had a problem with connect box humming sound returned it and now has this issue with black outs after game mode on ,,, I am waiting to see what the retailer will say I will probable return this one too can’t be a software issue its hardware anyone found an solution?
@@AllAboutTKK yes the screen turns off and on and off while game mode is on I have found a trick by going to ps5 menu Settings and changing 4K transfer to -2 resolves the problem but I will still wait to see what my retailer will say tomorow I have seen other reviews on this issue and many don’t have issues with ps5 so I suppose it could be a hardware issue hopefully I will refund this one too… I regret buying from Samsung shoulda stuck to lg
@@AllAboutTKK tried cables too nothing worked , due to doa I returned got a new one no problem now unfortunately I changed 2 s95c 65’’ to get a good one pretty faulty Samsung
Also tkk get firmware 1123.0 which is out now. The only thing it does is makes it so when the tv gets warm it dont drop the brightness. Rtings tested it. I would do it now before samsung comes out with a new firmware that does mess stuff up and u cant get 1123 any longer lol.
@@AllAboutTKK Just meant that I have a 4090 gpu connected to the s95c so I can try to reproduce some of the issues you are seeing and share some of mine as it relates to PC gaming on this display. 😁
@@AllAboutTKK thx I saw the state where you put it at first place. I'm in love for the design the way you can mount it like a poster hiding the box it's gorgeous! Will you update it to v1123? Rtings says it fix the dimming when TV temperature goes over 45 C°
Bro something is up with your pc, tv, or setup. I’m using a 55 s95c connected to the internet(hulu live sports) in my 4090 pc setup and I’ve never seen it act like that when I switch to pc input. I also keep the firmware updated.
Lol you might of missed talking points in the video bro. You said you’re connected to internet. (Hulu live sports) I’m connected using an hdmi device when switching to the pc when that was done. If you’re connected using the built in app then it’s not even the same comparison.
Lol bro what does a Panasonic have to do with s95c? What I’m saying is that what you said you did above isn’t the same exact replica of what you watched me do. There is nothing wrong with my pc. The tv is just merging two inputs of hdmi. Try what I did and if it ain’t an issue cool. But I’ve had 2 77” and same, saying something wrong with my hardware isn’t the play though. If it were then taking the he input out of game mode then putting it back to game mode wouldn’t be a resolve.
Okay. Gaming pc set to 4k 144 game mode. Turned on the pc while the Blu-ray or other hdmi source was on, then switched? And my bad cuz, for a second I thought you were trying to say you did this with a Panasonic tv. Lol. I got quite a few comments at the same time on this joint.
Use Nvidia geforce experience to play at 1440p. Selecting this will also remove the need for the TV to upscale to 4k. And your graphics card will do this. You will also get a better image.
What do you mean for my tv to upscale in 4k? What you’re suggesting is what I’m saying I shouldn’t have to do. This is the first tv to natively support 144Hz, any work around to make all resolutions work within game, means they need to do more work. Equal to last year S95B having to (unlock) 144Hz. But I get what you are saying.
@@AllAboutTKK if your watching anything but 4k on a 4k panel, the panel will need to upscale to 4k. You can get a better experience if using 1440p in the Nvidia geforce experience. Nvidia will do the upscaling instead of the panel. Then you can use 144p at 1440p but the TV will think this is 4k because it's receiving a 4k signal. This will do away with the fact some TVs upscale better then others. Fact is none of them can upsacle better than Nvidia.
@@raymondhines5964 I don’t watch anything on pc bro. I think that’s where the confusion is. I don’t watch content on this Pc. When I watch tv it’s through an Apple TV. When I’m on pc it’s 4K native. The tv does not natively do 144 in QHD. Is will do 120 in QHD. That is the issue. NVIDIA control panel isn’t or shouldn’t be a need to force that.
@@AllAboutTKK I do understand what you mean also, your highlighting how easy it was to change resolutions in game on the s95b And run the game on a resolution not native to the TV
Thats typical samsung OS. As good as there products can be, they always seem to inconvenience the user in the way there settings are setup. I had those same issues when I used to by Samsung 10 years ago. Always wierd input issues. Between that and tizen I'm not a fan w/either, its things I use to often use regularly I can't be fumbling around. I have little time to play once I do sit down. Just my thoughts and experience w/samsumg for years
@@alcylon wait so you leave two comments with this one toting that people who bought this $4500 tv at launch to NOT focus on it being used for gaming? You just told me you got this time after it came out because it’ll take someone like myself who supported it on drop to make this kind of content. To not use it as a gaming panel is ridiculous considering it’s one of the best out feature wise, specifically in the year 2023 it was the best hands down in totality.
Slight inconvenience... never the less. Not conducive to convenience.... But imagine noobs that don't even know what yellow red white cable is.. Like granny asking you ro hook up a DVD player. And they think you are hacker god... cuz u know so much... These people will not know what to do They don't even know about control Alt short cut keys ffs Damn Such is life
@@0gur not a do all be all solution. Point in case, I have used fiber HDMI cable. The issue is really hit or miss, the problem lives within the hardware of the one connect, a year later nobody should be trying to work this hard to find a fix for the issues, and if that is the fix Samsung should have and would have specified such, this isn’t the same flaw on S95D. I’d like to point out.
The loss of signal while gaming would be an absolute dealbreaker for me personally. That TV would be going back to the store faster than you can say Max Luv . LOL
This could happen on any tv
I wonder if the wire from the One Connect Box to the tv is too thin to push all that bandwidth??? But I'm just guessing because the S90C & S90D without the 1 Connect Box doesn't have this issue 🤦🏿🤷🏿
Yes, thank you for talking about the 144hz issues. At 120hz I'm fine no drops but at 144hz it happens every 30 seconds to 8 minutes. It makes 144hz unplayable currently.
Facts.
Thank you for the support.
I think the issue is with HDMI 2.1 not supporting more than 120 Hz on 4k.
It would be interesting if some app on the tv could reach this because it's not limited by HDMI
Tv does do 144Hz in 4k though.
@@AllAboutTKK Unfortunately it doesn't for me. Blacking out every 10 seconds - 5 minutes doesn't really mean to me that it can do 144hz in 4k. I guess its working for some people. Strange it doesn't work for me.
It seems to be the OneConnect box. No one has reported this problem with the S90C and it's been confirmed that the OneConnect has a lower bitrate for video than full HDMI2.1 (40 vs 48 gps)
That’s what I like about your videos because anyone can slap a review on here and call it a great TV but I’m more interested to see what the TV is like on a day-to-day basis. I’m looking forward to seeing your thoughts on the day-to-day use of the G3.
It makes sense on why Sony takes their time releasing their flagship TV’s.
Max Luv bro. Shooting G3 for tomorrow as we speak.
@@AllAboutTKK Cool. I watched Plasma TV’s video comparing the S90c and the S95c. I’m beginning to understand his point about capping the Oled TV’s at around 600-700 nits. I have a 55 class Sony A8F in my kitchen and that TV still looks beautiful even in the daytime. It’s the Contrast that makes the Oled TV’s look as good as they do.
After seeing all of the issues that you’re having with the S95c and the S90c, not to mention all of the firmware issues that the s95b has, I’m glad I exchanged my s95b for the A95k. Anyway, I’m looking forward to seeing your video about the LG G3.
Thanks for listening to me rant.
TKK your content has been very interesting. True to form and pointing out your experience using the tv sets.
Brother I hope that is a good thing lol.
Thanks TKK, this type of topic take a lot of honesty and courage to list all those flaws on 5k dollars TV, kudos man
Max Luv.
A real review for people considering buying the S95C. Great asset to the community, you are said in my best Yoda voice😂😅
Lol.
first i've heard of this.. Do the update young son!! Just hope they don't turn the nits down, like they did with the s95b.. Cheers & Regards from Oz
I haven't done enough testing yet, but I feel like the signal drops are possibly linked to G-Sync/ VRR. I haven't had any when turned off, but I haven't played all that much with it off either. I do know that the drop outs you get when changing video settings are shorter when G-Sync is off.
Had it turned off and it still happens.
I just bought an S95C. Loaded halo infinite on my XboxSeriesX to show off 120hz and BOOM signal drop out. It was unplayable. Every few seconds it would show the black screen with skinny wheel.
I googles my fingers off and saw something saying to turn off HDR10+.
I tried that and haven’t had an issue since.
I turn HDR10+ on and immediately get drop outs.
I also hear that using fiber optic HDMI cables can help but haven’t tried that yet.
I'm sending this TV back. During startup my tv stayed on black screen for 5 minutes. Also several black screens during gaming with the ps5. The artifacts on the screen while watching normal TV shows is irritating. When someone moves their face or moves their hands quickly, you'll see it stutter across the screen. The aggressive tone mapping is intense to see in some games. I have tryed every setting to make it better but nothing helped. Thanks for the great review. I wish I had seen your review before I bought this TV. Fortunately, I can still make use of the thirty day withdrawal right
I don’t know where you got the tv from for me to answer that question.
Mediamarkt in the Netherlands
Can't believe that you are not loving this awesome tv but we both know no tv is perfect.
But I do. It’s just hard to think it’s all love when it’s a video specifically around all dislikes.
That VRR Input and Game mode section...there go my dreams. Will have to wait longer, hopefully Samsung fixes whatever bugs they have. Always some issues or the other with them.
And talk about preparing the room lol, I was putting up the insulation, black-out curtains today. Seems like still the reasonable enough choice is a LG, so the room is good to prepare anyway for an OLED. Sony is just too expensive, barely get any discounts.
Same here lol
Samsung really needs to get their act together with the QC on their TVs. If you're dropping several grand on a premium product, you should get premium quality. The tv should just work
right out of the box with minimal tweaking required from the customer.
No one is reporting the issues and there customer service lacks professionalism staff all following a script they clearly they don't see our problems
Thanks for your observations and they were really helpful to hear. I know it’ll be really expensive, but I’ll be interested in seeing about the forthcoming Sony version, plus whatever manufacturers take QD-OLED in 2024.
Don’t know that I’ve ever read a comment from you.
If I have and don’t remember please forgive me.
Thank you for taking the time to watch this video. I’m glad it was in any way helpful.
@@AllAboutTKK because I’ve only just seen your review. I’ll subscribe to you. I like these types of reviews. Keep it up.
@@jasmadahar9089 thanks brother.
@@AllAboutTKK you’re welcome my brother.
Just for your information, I went to my local Electrical Superstore over here in the UK, and saw the display model of the S95B, and recoiled in horror that it was bent inwards. The representative there understood my concern, saying that the three that they had for display purposes were exactly the same! Didn’t fill me with confidence regarding their quality and I hope the new one is better built.
@@jasmadahar9089 I went through 3 s95b last year I had to exchange to come to be ok with what I ended up with. Many did not believe me, if it’s bent in the showroom then that means there was a serious issue
I had this dropping issue at first with a s95c/4090 but had to change my HDMI cables to a shorter one for cable management and the dropping issue stopped with that change. The old cables were 4090 to cx with no issues
What cable did you get specifically that works for you? I've tried at least three at this point
Fresh cables to no resolves. Different GPU and tv same issue. Different as in 2x s95c from the first one and this one. RTX 3080i and 3090. RTX 4090 on s90c.
I'm Glad U Pointed Out Just All The Flaws, That Samsung Operations System Has With One's Devices! I Think 🤔 ( DESPITE All The Good Things About The QLED'S!) It DEFINITELY HAS A CPU OR ( THEY DEFINITELY NEED TO CHANGE THAT OPERATION SYSTEM SOFTWARE THEY HAVE WITH THESE SAMSUNG 📺 🖥 📺!) OR OPERATIONS PROBLEMS WITH DEVICES! SAMSUNG To Made Everything For Samsung S95B Ect.Ect Instead Of Really Focusing On People's Avr Receivers And All, Without Connecting Everything To The Samsung TV ( IT'S HORRIBLE AND I ECHO WHAT U WAS SAYING AND SOME CAUSE MOST DEFINITELY HAVE MY OWN ISSUES WITH THIS TV!!!!!
The S95b and its firmware updates ruining Hgig mode is a real issue for me, which is why it's not the $1300 option it used to be. I am looking at getting an s90c 55in, but am honestly afraid to update the firmware unless absolutely necessary.
I can say that out of the box you’d be happy, but I find it hard to buy that even with a beefed 95B.
Of course you’ll make an executive choice that is best for yourself.
Just take the TV offline, use an external device for your apps etc.
Seems like the TV may need a firmware update, but then again, can understand the hesitancy from the S95B brightness days.. Tough call. Seems to me this TV shines at 4K & light-controlled room. Challenging to run lower res & in bright room.
This is interesting... I have a 77" S90C coming on Tuesday, and like you, I am running PLEX on a PC running a 2080 Super. I also have a latest gen Apple TV 4K that I use to consume content on (RUclips, PLEX, Disney and Amazon...) It will be intersesting to see if I have the same issues. I was thinking about canceling the S90C order and getting the A95K, as I was debating between the two quite hard. I appreciated you mentioning that you still hold the S95C above the Sony. I too was like you and chose the Samsung for the 77" display
That 77” is hard to look away from.
Thanks for a great video. I ended up by the s85b recently, love the picture and even sound not too bad but there are still some issues that do ruin the overall experience, guess that’s Samsung.
85b?
Great stuff man as always! It's gonna be interesting to see what happens going forward, rumour is Samsung just ordered millions of WOLED panels from LG that they might start using this upcoming quarter. Looking forward to see what they come up with. Probably killing the Qled crap for good.
Oh shit. If that do that then that means LG might get a QD-OLED
@@AllAboutTKK yeah I see it happening, the pride crap is over, at this point LG won the argument they had going on since 2015.
I read an article that stated Samsung ordered 77" and 83" WOLEDS from LG. It's possible that Samsung might introduce a third OLED series into the mix. I don't think they're completely giving up on QD OLED.
@@Nwordplzplz i don't think he said giving up on QD OLED but rather QLED.
What is forcing this deal are several problems.
To clarify some things first. LG Display and Samsung Display are panel manufacturers. LG Electronics is LG Display’s parent company and makes TVs, but buys panels from LG Display and maybe other LCD manufacturers. Samsung Electronics is a TV manufacturer that buys QD-OLED panels from Samsung Display and LCD panels from other companies since Samsung Display shut down its money-losing LCD business.
The first problem is China. China has sold LCD panels at prices so low that both LG Display and Samsung Display have quit producing LCDs their factories in South Korea. Samsung Display has quit making LCDs altogether because selling them at a loss is bad for business. LG Display still makes LCDs in its factory in China but at half capacity. That factory also makes WOLED panels alongside its sister factories in South Korea. China’s LCD factories have produced too many LCDs, driving prices too low for all of them to survive. The Chinese government is now forcing many LCD manufacturers to merge and to cut production to try to allow some to survive. The Chinese government is also prioritizing its own TV manufacturers like TCL and Hisense in who can buy panels if an LCD shortage develops. This means that the supply of cheap LCDs to non-Chinese companies is likely to end.
The second problem is that Samsung Display is maxed out making QD-OLED panels and cannot ramp up production fast enough. Samsung Electronics cannot buy enough QD-OLED panels from Samsung Display to overwhelm other TV manufacturers the way the former did before the LCD crisis. Samsung Electronics needs to buy panels from someone that it can trust, and Taiwan and Japan probably do not have enough supply for Samsung Electronics to make up for any possible Chinese LCD shortages.
The third problem is that LG Display has a lot of unused production capacity, but is broke. It needs another customer. LG Display is hurt both by the LCD situation in China since its Chinese factory produces LCDs and by QD-OLED suddenly dethroning WOLED as the best TV technology. LG Display refused to do anything about shipping defective WOLED panels with blatant dirty screen effects like pink tints for a long time, causing customers to flee to QD-OLED as much as possible once that came out. LG Display finally either fixed whatever caused these defects or improved its quality control to reject the defective screens before they can get shipped this year. Whatever dirty screen effects are left are so minor that they generally can’t be found unless the TV is put side by side with a QD-OLED TV which apparently naturally does not usually have the dirty screen effect problem. LG Display also rolled out MLA technology this year to try to approach QD-OLED quality by boosting total brightness and color brightness, allowing WOLED to display colors that it previously could not display. Samsung Electronics previously tried to buy WOLED panels from LG Display, but since LG Display was previously profitable then and Samsung Electronics wanted to buy WOLED panels at prices below what LG Electronics paid LG Display for WOLED panels, LG Display rejected that offer.
Samsung Electronics can’t be too picky on both where it can buy quality panels and its bidding price for panels anymore. LG Display can’t be too picky about both its asking price for panels and who it wants to sell to, but now has plenty of quality panels to sell now that it has fixed the dirty screen effect problem well enough. Both companies reached a deal since both companies’ problems largely mutually solve each other.
Reuters first broke the news about this deal between Samsung Electronics and LG Display, so I find the news about the deal much more credible than just a rumor. See www.reuters.com/technology/lg-display-supply-oled-tv-panels-samsung-elec-sources-2023-05-16/ for a reference.
Great video as always TK. Sorry about the issues your having on your 95C. Try the firmware route and see if it fixes it. That being said. LOVE those Klipsch speakers you have buddy. Gonna have me a set soon when the funds allow. Max Luv.
Thanks bro.
I can live with the issues for now, there hasn’t been a firmware update announced yet that has my interest and so I just wanna stick with Vanilla, tv is kicking ass in so many ways.
Thanks for the hands up. Has the stuttering video playback issue been fixed for you? Can you elaborate a bit on what content caused the issues and if the fix has negative side effects?
Yes it has been fixed? With the firmware video I did after this.
I have the hdmi blackout issue with an RTX 4080 and not with any of my consoles … I discovered that I can eventually stop the blackouts if I manually force a handshake several times and it finally connects without issue. I have to turn off and back on game mode multiple times- usually 3 to 10 times in a row and finally it will stop. It only works if it’s 120hz or less for me at 4k, VRR, and HDR. I had a RTX 3080 before in this same computer that had the same issue. I finally got too annoyed by this and tech support will be coming out soon to hopefully replace the One Box which has fixed some people’s issue with this.
Did that fix the issue?
I think you’re right. A firmware update will eventually clear these glitches up. My s95b had some annoying connectivity issues that all cleared up after a couple updates
I knew it. As of right now I feel I can live with these issues, probably going to wait down the line for an update after I can confirm there is one that I will really need.
Appreciate you chiming in on the matter.
@@AllAboutTKK I do have a question shouldn’t the patches have already been implemented from the beginning? Isn’t it like a video game why should we wait for updates to fix the product when we can implement them from the beginning and get them out the door with no glitches?
I get that jittery weird motion in Plex as well on my Apple TV 4k, but I am on using a LG C3. I honestly think it's software related.. and nothing to do with the TV. It just started happening a month ago for me.
Thank you for being able to relate. Does not happen on A95L.
Thank god I don’t have that issue on the C9 😊
4k 120
What a great video. You're pointing out so many details that I've never seen it mentioned.
Thank you bro.
this is how all reviews should be like. i am sick of payed polished reviews with 0 value without real user experience.
Knowing what you know now and you were thinking about getting a 65" oled for gaming and watching mixed media, which TV would you buy and why?
S95C. Gotta say it until I see what the A95L brings. If Sony doesn’t mess anything up it should be a monster.
But this tv is so very well rounded.
The picture quality is amazing, but I think it's probably better to wait until next year when they have the whites and blacks looking more pure (hopefully). If they can do that and fix the usual Samsung kinks such as not having to go to the home screen to change the input, then it'll pretty much be a perfect TV.
For now, it seems like the G3 is still the king of the Hill and the Sony A95L will likely surpass the Samsung and LG.
@@kevkeisha it terms of UI and pure black/white I would say yes, but there's no denying that the picture quality looks better overall on the S95C, at least in my opinion. I also like how it has a one connect box. That's a game changer for a lot of people, especially those who want to wall mount it, just makes it so much easier. Yes, I'm curious to see how the A95L performs as well, but it will likely be very expensive.
Samsung really needs to watch this video and do another software update and fix these issues.
Great content as always.
Thank you.
I have a SUPER ANNOYING issue. 7800X3D with an RTX4080 and my 55S90C.
I can watch a RUclips video or whatever with 0 issues. But say I’m looking at a sensor table running benchmarks etc. the TV will go black for a few seconds and come back. It’ll happen multiple times over and over. Happens on 4k@144hz and 120hz. I haven’t been able to replicate the issue with 4k@60hz.
I’m 99% sure that it’s a firmware issue on the TV. I hope they fix it haha. I haven’t tried playing games on it yes, as it’s a fresh build.
Lemme know if you find an answer dude! Btw I’m running the current firmware ( forgot the number )
I think something could be up with your one connect box. I have a S95c 55. I haven’t tried QHD but I’m not having any of the input switching/signal loss issues you are having.
Oh there are others claiming the same issues.
Then the one thing shown, you’ve have to try to replicate the scenario to see if it does jt.
Have a device on, turn Pc on and have it set for game mode at 144Hz then switch to it. Again it gets turned on while the first device is on.
This same issue happened with the first S95C also.
@@AllAboutTKK Alright i will have to see if I can recreate them then.
I had the same issue with the motion stutter on the s90c 77". Very odd. Looks beautiful otherwise.
I wonder why the match dynamic range is causing the tv to stutter. I mean if it detects hdr content and displays it then you don’t need the setting. But match frame rate should be sending the content in the original frame rate and allow the tv to interlace 24hz signal properly instead of a 60hz signal. I wonder if it being a 144hz panel is causing it to struggle a bit more as well
This it why I always ask how’s 24p content look lol
Always quality content from you man. With these issues aside, do you regret the purchase at all or still happy with it?
I don’t. The video after this showing how the update has helped, has made my experience some better.
@@AllAboutTKK awesome! Haven't seen that. I'll check it out. I'm upgrading from an LG B7 with burn in so I imagine it'll be worlds ahead on the experience.
S90C here. No weird dropout/crash issues other than the raised blacks. I can live with them considering the great colours. Seems the S95C one connect box causes problems.
Let’s talk about what you have connected to the S90c.
Both of these suffer from the same issues of inconsistency on gaming pc in 4k at 144Hz for me. The one connect box isn’t the proven problem child. I can confirm that.
I believe ive had the studdering issue but only on youtube content watching a 4k video of someone walking in japan. Idk if this was because my wifi or if its the same issue you are having. I will have to try your fix for it.. also i have an issue with the fire stick 4k max dropping resolution with hulu
love the content!
Would you recommend the Samsung S95C over the LG oled Evo c3? Thanks for the video!
Of course. Another level.
@@AllAboutTKK thanks mate!
Thank you for putting in work to help the consumer make an educated choice to upgrade with the right tv for us. I went with the 65” S90C. Do you have/know any pic settings, for movies(4K UHD Blu Ray) and gaming(have series x and PS5) and again thank you for a fair unbiased(non-fanboy) review and recommendation
All good my brother congrats on your purchase. Yea I’ll try to get you what I suggest.
@@AllAboutTKK thank you
I feel you to pay that kind of money and to have those issues is unfair to consumers , we need to hold these companies accountable , these tvs should be tested fully test , apple tv , bluray movies ,plex , motion handling,etc , I hate 2 beat a dead horse but I have had my Panasonic LZ2000 for over a year with 2 updates and none for motion problems and image problems That's because they tune there tvs tuned by a Hollywood colurists and thiey also Hollywood tuned the audio in thete tvs .We all should be able to buy a tv with no updates nothing should have to be fixed when you buy a high end tv , when buy a Benz you don't. Have to keep taking it back to the dealer so they have to update the cars computer software.
How do you stop the screen saver coming on every 2 mins
I have a Samsung qn91b let's sometimes gets the same effect as you with gaming mode when I am switching back to my PC which has gaming mode enabled.
Also I would ask you to see if your starter or problems could be related to transcoding problems. You should be able to see on the server if the video is transcoding. Then you need to see how much CPU power it is using.
Is this in reference to the merging issues? This happens with any gaming source, pc, ps5 or Xbox. This was resolved with the latest update from a video I showed after this one was made.
You got 6-7 dropouts within 2-3 hours? Damn I would be happy then. I get the dropouts every 2 seconds or so, sometimes even with only 120Hz. But only on PC with my 4080. I‘ve tried four different certified HDMI cables and get no luck. How long is your HDMI cable? And did you connect the OCB with the short or the long cable? VRR enabled?
Tkk it only only does that half screen switching thing with the apple tv. I returned my apple tv and got a chrome cast and it never happend again. I think its a apple tv thing with samsung more then a samsung thing.
I have a problem that’s annoying on my s95c, I’m playing a game and put it in pause then it dims after 5 mins and when I resume, it stays dim and it lags like hell
I'm considering pairing either the Sony A95L, LG G3, or the Samsung S95V with the Nakamichi Dragon 11.4.6 (or Sony HT-A9 If I lose patience waiting for the Nakamichi).
I love your setup!!
yeah I am trying to see how Q900C is for gaming its a 8k tv that does not cost an arm and a leg not enough people are using 8k tv's as a pc monitor so I might have to just buy one and see how it does I am torn between s95c LG G3 and now Q900c
Wow I have the same struggle as you😅 did a lot of research. 8K is nice but the colors look much better on the QD-OLED. I don't want to spend 10K if it's not the best TV of the year.. Im a huge gamer and like immersive picture pictures but what if 8K QD-OLED Comes next year or better technology? Maybe I'm going with a cheaper QD-OLED Monitor..
@@michaeljordan27 I mean if money was not an object I would go for 8k oled with lg lol but I don't have 30k laying around so try to spend below $5000 on a tv yeah you have a point 8k qd oled might be a thing next year but it will be stupid expensive so if I can get 8k I can then just run the 8k in 4k @ 120hz mode if the games don't run 8k that well I have alot of old games that I know will run 8k good since I had the dell up3218k back in 2017 when I did alot of my 8k testing so I know what 8k looks like and its a night and day difference vs 4k when gaming on certain titles but my end game tv would be 8k oled lol
Yh let's hope we get 8K oled for under 10K. Still cheaper than micro-led. Some people say 8K isn't necessary and u don't see a difference. But people like us with an eye for details. We know😉👁️wish there would be more 8K monitors for gaming like the dell but with more Hz.
Sent mine back for the same reason. Screen tearing when switching from Xbox to Apple tv. Heard an update was released that fixed this issue though. Been without a TV for months. Waiting for A95l reviews.
Yessir.
I have this issues except mine was not even able to pull up a menu then when I restarted the TV on/off, it just dead and will not turn on.
Damn. Did you sent it out?
My man
uk here using sky q i get motion problems also tv is 2 week old
TKK, how do you remedy the HDMI disconnect issue? restarting the TV or the PC?
I don’t have a fix. It’s a serious problem because it is random.
A viewer commented and said he did a new shorter cable. I have done cable swaps. No resolve my way.
yo tk i got the 77in S90C since friday so far loving it havent updated but i am considering it tho having this wierd issue where in dark scenes the screen sometimes goes really dark like raised blacks for like a second then goes back not often but u can notice it , have you seen this? if so whats the fix or should i just bite the bullet and update and hope for the best lol thanks bro
Never seen that issue brother, damn.
Samsung s95c¿ or lg c3 or g3 and why ?. Thanks!
Sony
Thanks for this video. I recently bought the S90C in my gaming room and I am regretting it. I have the LG C3 downstairs and IMO the picture looks better, clearer, brighter, faster. The Samsung image out of the box is a lot of work to calibrate vs LG. The contrast takes a lot of adjusting to get right. The AI doesn’t match properly so I’m always adjusting per game. The TV is glitchy. When it’s firing on all cylinders then it’s gorgeous. But she’s high maintenance!!
Absolutely brother. LG work really well, especially for gaming.
Wait does that bug happen every time u switch from apple TV to PC input? It cant be no? That expensive and new TV to have some bugs like that... I am using Nvidia Shield and switching a lot between Shield and PC input.
No.
Happens if I turn on input (when you turn on input that signal is activating) what is happening is that the two inputs are crossing. It’s something within VRR because turning off GM stops it, still, it’s an inconvenience and a flaw.
@@AllAboutTKK Ah ok tnx, so should be fine when i just switch to pc hdmi input. Do u use game mode picture always when ur on pc? I mean when ur not in game, just on desktop , browsing etc..
my C2 and my Xbox Series X have a similar HDMI handshake issue. it's the most annoying thing ever. you go to turn the Xbox on and sometimes it will work and sometimes itll remain on the no signal screen, you know the one that flashes the artwork screensavers. it works more than it dont, but its still annoying. apparently its a pretty big issue with the C2 and XSX. one of the main reasons I went with the C2 was because i didnt want to deal with this kind of BS.
Absolutely.
Try it on hdmi 1. I had same problem with series x. It works all the time on port 1 my 2 is earc and 3&4 always do no signal.
@@robertearleverett9017 my xbox is on hdmi1.
A simple question, Is it the hdmi 2.1 cable, is it 48 Gbps? On the s95b I had an issue with my ps5 input taking long to load especially when vrr mode was engaged, but when I used an updated cable, the input lag went away.
All cables are 100% A1.
@@AllAboutTKK cool but it’s something worth looking into. I just got a new house and the low voltage wiring guys claimed to have installed an in wall hdmi 2.1 cable (so I could mount the tv on a wall and everything including power and hdmi is in the wall behind the tv). But their cable is shit… very long latency to switch over from the Apple TV to the ps5. I used an anker hdmi 2.1 cable 48 gbps and no more issues. Also, with the nvidia cards I wonder if a Radeon card has the same issue ?
@@j340_official nah these cables are A1. This isn’t an issue on anything but this tv. But I feel you, I use the same brand and type of cables on every OLED.
@@AllAboutTKK cool. What about the graphics card or gsync settings tho ? I wonder if Radeon would behave the same ?
Couldn’t tell you that bro, would never own one of them thangs… lol.
What about Gsync? All that stuff is on typical run of the mill there.
I have the same issue after coming back from a new s95c where the old one had a problem with connect box humming sound returned it and now has this issue with black outs after game mode on ,,, I am waiting to see what the retailer will say I will probable return this one too can’t be a software issue its hardware anyone found an solution?
Blackouts? I’ve heard it’s the board. Not sure. I’m so over the tv for that reason, I don’t at all have an issue separating with a panel.
@@AllAboutTKK yes the screen turns off and on and off while game mode is on I have found a trick by going to ps5 menu Settings and changing 4K transfer to -2 resolves the problem but I will still wait to see what my retailer will say tomorow I have seen other reviews on this issue and many don’t have issues with ps5 so I suppose it could be a hardware issue hopefully I will refund this one too… I regret buying from Samsung shoulda stuck to lg
@@AllAboutTKK tried cables too nothing worked , due to doa I returned got a new one no problem now unfortunately I changed 2 s95c 65’’ to get a good one pretty faulty Samsung
Also tkk get firmware 1123.0 which is out now. The only thing it does is makes it so when the tv gets warm it dont drop the brightness. Rtings tested it. I would do it now before samsung comes out with a new firmware that does mess stuff up and u cant get 1123 any longer lol.
Sony A95L King of Motiooooooon Beast of the Year I hope so xD
Sir, it’s been months, any annoying issues?
Catchup on the content.
What firmware is it on from day 1 and what’s the firmware now?
You would have to go back to day one video bro.
It’s on 1205 now.
@@AllAboutTKK I just got mine and it’s only showing the 1123 I can’t update it any further then that? How’d u get it to find the update?
@@nycekix told the tv to look for update. Are you in the USA? If not that could be the difference.
@AllAboutTKK yeah I'm in California. But every time I tell the tv look for update it says "your tv is on the latest update 1123"
Vincent's recent review explains the drop outs you've been having 😬
No it doesn’t, lol. Those drop outs stopped after the update. I did a video on that too( and those drop outs happen on the S90C also.
I HAve Black Walls For An Ultimate Dark Room Experience.. I'm In A Basement With No Windows... I Have A Perfect Room For A Movie Theater
That’s dope. I wish I had it like that bruh.
Max Luv.
Is there a email I can reach you at? I have access to this S95c driving by a 4090. Would be happy to try and reproduce these issues.
Driving by a 4090?
@@AllAboutTKK Just meant that I have a 4090 gpu connected to the s95c so I can try to reproduce some of the issues you are seeing and share some of mine as it relates to PC gaming on this display. 😁
@@CriPPleR_HD ah okay
AllAboutTKKLLC@gmail.com
Just bought the s95c 65 inch and now I'm a bit scared 😅😅
Nah don’t be. It’s still the one for me.
@@AllAboutTKK thx I saw the state where you put it at first place. I'm in love for the design the way you can mount it like a poster hiding the box it's gorgeous!
Will you update it to v1123? Rtings says it fix the dimming when TV temperature goes over 45 C°
@@r4iv3n_ITA thank you, sir. I look forward to hearing your findings, it is appreciated.
Bro something is up with your pc, tv, or setup. I’m using a 55 s95c connected to the internet(hulu live sports) in my 4090 pc setup and I’ve never seen it act like that when I switch to pc input. I also keep the firmware updated.
Lol you might of missed talking points in the video bro.
You said you’re connected to internet. (Hulu live sports)
I’m connected using an hdmi device when switching to the pc when that was done. If you’re connected using the built in app then it’s not even the same comparison.
@@AllAboutTKKdoesn’t do it when I switch to pc from the Panasonic ub820 I have connected as well🤔
Lol bro what does a Panasonic have to do with s95c?
What I’m saying is that what you said you did above isn’t the same exact replica of what you watched me do. There is nothing wrong with my pc.
The tv is just merging two inputs of hdmi. Try what I did and if it ain’t an issue cool. But I’ve had 2 77” and same, saying something wrong with my hardware isn’t the play though. If it were then taking the he input out of game mode then putting it back to game mode wouldn’t be a resolve.
@@AllAboutTKKis the Panasonic not an hdmi device? I did the same bro and no issue
Okay.
Gaming pc set to 4k 144 game mode.
Turned on the pc while the Blu-ray or other hdmi source was on, then switched?
And my bad cuz, for a second I thought you were trying to say you did this with a Panasonic tv. Lol. I got quite a few comments at the same time on this joint.
Does it happen when using pc or happens to consoles too?
This happens with PC, I’ve never had this happen with anything else.
When trying to do 144Hz using 4k resolution.
Well Articulated ;;)
Oh hello algorithm...
Stop spying on me.
And have a good day
Lol. Max Luv
I think the LG G3 is going to win TV of the year unless the Sony A95L just blows everyone away. The MLA technology is fire on the LG G3.
14:25 no QHD at 144hz!!?!?🤬
They cant let this tv destroy there there qled line. This tv is there top one and isnt suppose to be. 85 inch qn900c and qn95c is
They say HGIG was working with the original Firmware, and Samsung broke it with the first update. I wouldn't update that
🤣🤣🤣
Damn. Yeah mine has never seen an update.
How do they manage to break so much stuff on updates? This is why I don't trust them as a brand. LG is so much more reliable.
Use Nvidia geforce experience to play at 1440p. Selecting this will also remove the need for the TV to upscale to 4k. And your graphics card will do this. You will also get a better image.
What do you mean for my tv to upscale in 4k?
What you’re suggesting is what I’m saying I shouldn’t have to do. This is the first tv to natively support 144Hz, any work around to make all resolutions work within game, means they need to do more work.
Equal to last year S95B having to (unlock) 144Hz.
But I get what you are saying.
@@AllAboutTKK if your watching anything but 4k on a 4k panel, the panel will need to upscale to 4k. You can get a better experience if using 1440p in the Nvidia geforce experience. Nvidia will do the upscaling instead of the panel. Then you can use 144p at 1440p but the TV will think this is 4k because it's receiving a 4k signal.
This will do away with the fact some TVs upscale better then others. Fact is none of them can upsacle better than Nvidia.
@@raymondhines5964 I don’t watch anything on pc bro. I think that’s where the confusion is. I don’t watch content on this Pc. When I watch tv it’s through an Apple TV.
When I’m on pc it’s 4K native.
The tv does not natively do 144 in QHD. Is will do 120 in QHD. That is the issue. NVIDIA control panel isn’t or shouldn’t be a need to force that.
@@AllAboutTKK I do understand what you mean also, your highlighting how easy it was to change resolutions in game on the s95b And run the game on a resolution not native to the TV
@@raymondhines5964 correct, as it is on every tv. 144Hz is still new, this with 90c are technically the first out of the box to support.
Thats typical samsung OS. As good as there products can be, they always seem to inconvenience the user in the way there settings are setup. I had those same issues when I used to by Samsung 10 years ago. Always wierd input issues. Between that and tizen I'm not a fan w/either, its things I use to often use regularly I can't be fumbling around. I have little time to play once I do sit down. Just my thoughts and experience w/samsumg for years
Get a dedicated screen for gameing. Period
@@alcylon wait so you leave two comments with this one toting that people who bought this $4500 tv at launch to NOT focus on it being used for gaming?
You just told me you got this time after it came out because it’ll take someone like myself who supported it on drop to make this kind of content. To not use it as a gaming panel is ridiculous considering it’s one of the best out feature wise, specifically in the year 2023 it was the best hands down in totality.
Lmao that’s why you put mini led in living room and oled in game room
Chris, with respects you sound crazy.
@@AllAboutTKK thank you let me know if it works
Slight inconvenience... never the less. Not conducive to convenience....
But imagine noobs that don't even know what yellow red white cable is..
Like granny asking you ro hook up a DVD player. And they think you are hacker god... cuz u know so much...
These people will not know what to do
They don't even know about control Alt short cut keys ffs
Damn
Such is life
Lol, these are facts.
I had to make sure I was clear at the start “we not finna dump on Samsung” in this one.
@@AllAboutTKK ya not hating at all
Just what you showed is pretty high lvl.
Even tho its easy for us
Max Luv.
For non gamer this is useless. I have zero issues with my tv.
@@alcylon well that’s great for you Mr no issues with your tv. Serious bravo
A guy in this video ruclips.net/video/lcR086ECooI/видео.html found out that optical hdmi cable solves black screens issue..
@@0gur not a do all be all solution. Point in case, I have used fiber HDMI cable. The issue is really hit or miss, the problem lives within the hardware of the one connect, a year later nobody should be trying to work this hard to find a fix for the issues, and if that is the fix Samsung should have and would have specified such, this isn’t the same flaw on S95D. I’d like to point out.
@@AllAboutTKK thx for your comment!
So this video is about how much u dislike the s95c.. how sponsor you for this smh
You did.
@@AllAboutTKK I could tell a big doofy mother
Why waste your time trying to insult. Go make some money, do something productive.
@@AllAboutTKK how u know I dnt do that already 🤣🤣u think I’m up just to insulting goofy