How and When to Change Your Bush Hog Gear Box Oil
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- Milky gearbox oil means there's moisture present and that's not a good thing. My bush hog had that issue, so in today's video we're going to change it.
Most brush hog gearboxes require the oil to be pumped out the top with a suction/oil extraction device like this one on my Amazon Affiliate Page: rb.gy/xfyf8i. A few of the newer machines have a drain plug in the bottom, which is nice, albeit a little difficult to reach.
So, I removed the top plug, stuck the hose in the bottom and started pumping. A lot of gearboxes have a cavity in the bottom that makes them a bit difficult to completely drain, but I must have done pretty well, because when I refilled the case, it held the full 2 quarts.
What came out of the box was a yellowish, oily substance, and when it was gone, I refilled the chamber with clean 80W-90 oil until it just slowly started trickling out of the sight plug. Then I put everything back together and I was done.
A gearbox is the most expensive part on the brush hog and very costly to repair, so you want to make sure you have good lubrication on the gear teeth and no major leaks.
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Only thing I would add to it Mike is that I would run the brush hog for a few minutes prior to changing the oil. If it's been sitting for a while the water will settle to the bottom and that will be the most difficult part to change, and the warmer oil will have a thinner viscosity making it easier to suck out
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It just makes me feel good when i do stuff like that. My dad was a huge grease fan. When i was a kid, i loved driving tractors. My dad always made me grease it before i was allowed to drive it. Now that i am adult with equipment of my own, i just feel good that i service everything regularly. It only takes a few mins and will keep your equipment ready to work instead of ready to be worked on.
Nice how-to vid Mike. Only suggestion I could add is to wrap that oil level plug with some teflon tape to prevent leakage and to make it easier to remove for the next time.
Precisely what I needed and when I needed it. Gold! Thank you!
I noticed your bush hog is a few inches wider than your tractor's width.
After taking out too many fence posts and scarring too many trees I found a mower that stays inside my tractors footprint.
Thanks for the oil change tip Mike!
You always want a brush hog wider than your tractor footprint! That save you from running twice in the same line when mowing large fields.
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Thanks for the tips and reminder Mike. I bought a new flail mower in 2019. I've checked the oil level before each season's first use. But, I think I'm due for an oil change.
I am not sure of why I never heard of changing oil in the bush hog. I have had mine for 17 years and it runs perfectly. I just keep it topped off. Thanks for the video!
Mike, as I have commented before. I have that same cutter. I do one thing differently. I remove the 4 small bolts out that hold the top cover on the gearbox. Actually I remove 3 and back one off and swing the cover out of the way. This allows for a better inspection of the gearbox internals and easier manipulation of the suction gun. When we had seals leaking on gearboxes at the state Highway dept we would take the top covers off and squeeze gun grease tubes into them. We could finish the road and change the seal when we got back to the shop
Very helpful and right on time!
Good stuff!
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Great video. Thanks Mike
Good Information Mike!!
As always, Mike, thanks for your excellent and helpful videos. BTW- good to see you write with the proper hand...;-)
Great video, Mike! I need to do this.
Thank you for the video
Good information
I change mine after using it for a while. I also change it after the last mow of the season so as not to leave contaminated oil in the case and potentially rust the gears.
My Mahindra bush hog is made my Kodiak and calls for John Deere Corn Header grease (the flowable grease you mentioned).
thanks
Great video Mike! I like to check that my fill plug will come loose before i drain the oil, just in case there is an issue with the fill plug stripping.
In 2009 I bought a County Line rototiller. They were really a King Kutter because I got a King Kutter manual with it. After I used it a couple of times and date it was time to check the oil in the gear case that's when I found out that it had grease and not oil in it. Brought it to the attention of the people at Tractor Supply and they said that that is a common practice to put grease instead of oil to prevent leaks. Been using it now for 13 years and haven't had any problems. Oh and Mike stick to making videos and not sing.
Another way that those gear boxes get moisture inside is when people store them outside for winter and cover them with a plastic bag or plastic bucket. The sun heats the covered parts more than the outside air. When it cools after sunset, moisture condenses inside them.
It takes a special kind of person to find the good, in the absence of an oil drain plug.
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Just for Ease of use I would change the 5/16 Allen screw to a ball valve to change oil
One thing to be sure to do is clean off and then blow through that vented top plug to be sure the vent hole isn't pluged. If it is pluged, inside pressure will build up as the gearbox warms up.
The pressure can force the oil out last the seals. Ask me how I know.
JD corn head grease works great in leaky gearboxes
I have one of those 5 ft. cheap choppers that has the same gear oil in it for over 30 yrs and has always sit outside.
I am a grease guy..
After changing gear oil for a few years straight, I filled my gear box with grease.
I add a half a tube every spring and no problems whatsoever.
What kinda grease?
I just. Rolled my mower over with the loader and a chain, I think I got most of the watery oil out
Mike how hard is it to change the front gasket if it's leaking?
On my hour meters i take a picture with my phone so i know when I changed oil. My rotary cutter said to put one quart in, so opened both plugs and started putting some in, it didn't take much but it started running out brand new. This is a brand new cutter which I checked twice. I even looked down inside and it was pure 80/90 weight.
Mike , Lucas recommends 50-100% of their thick oil stabilizer in gearbox’s. I have an old post hole digger that I filled with Lucas when I bought it because I forgot to buy gear oil and that’s what I had on hand . It has worked fine ever since. What are your thoughts on the Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer in gear boxes ?
I turn it up side down leave over night with mind yes lot of work
You can put “corn head” grease in gear boxes. It has a very very low melting point and it liquifies during operation. But at room temp is a grease like consistency.
Was told by a Deere dealer that it was perfectly fine to use in rotary cutter gear boxes. But really those bevel gears inside and the bearings don’t need a crazy special lubricant. Just something and enough of it.
Yes sir. I had a Brown 6' brush hog that called for corn head grease as the lubricant. My 10' Titan calls for 140 gear oil or EP-0 which is corn head grease.
I put that in the gearboxes of my old sickle bar mowers as well. No more weeping
If you take the cover off the gearbox, you have better access and you can inspect gears. Just the way I do it.
I've got a 5' Bush hog squealer that has had grease in the gearbox for 20 years. about every 10 hours we put 25-30 shots in it and it just keeps on running.
Thanks Mike for your advice. I’m about to pull the cord on a rotary cutter (Dirt Dog). BTW when your in Chehalis Washington remember the ‘a’ is a long ‘a’. I lived in Washington for 24 years. Don’t worry too much though, Washington is filled with unpronounceable locations. Have fun there.
I knew I was going to butcher that. It's shuh·hay·luhs, right? I think I was saying chuh-hal-uhs, which wasn't even close. Should have called someone and asked. We have a few of those here in Missouri, generally French names that have been "hillbillied". Helps to tell who is from around here and who is not :).
Do you need to change at regular intervals or only if looks bad. Thanks for the video. Keep with the videos I don't think singing will put food on the table.
Only change if contaminated. Those gear teeth don't require much lubrication. After your comment about my singing, I'm abandoning my plans to try out for America's Got Talent. I thought I had a real chance at stardom with my freakish good looks and my voice :).
John deere makes a grease called CORN HEAD for GEAR BOXES.
Hi Mike. I’ve got a 10ft brush hog with 3 gear boxes. The main GB is turned by the PTO and it turns 2 smaller GB’s which turn the rotary blades. The main GB is like yours which has a side plug to gauge the amount of gear oil put in but the smaller GB’s do not. How do you gauge the amount to put in???
Pull out the top plug and see if there's a dipstick on it. That would be my guess.
Always crack bolts and nuts loose first with the box wrench, then switch to open end.
Run it for a while to mix any sediment and water in with the oil before changing.
What's the "Death to Locusts" about? A curious sentiment indeed. Must be a story.
Love that white pen idea!
We have Thorny Locust trees here and my Bush Hog's main job is to eliminate them. I thought it was an appropriate thing to write there since I hate them so much :).
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I guess I may have missed it but about how often how many hours should they be changed? Ballpark.
If the oil isn't milky like mine, just leave it in. Those gear teeth require such little lubrication that the only time you need to change it is if there's contamination. My manual makes no mention of ever having to change the oil. I should have said that in the video.
What is the normal manufacturer's recommended service interval for a gearbox oil change?
My owner's manual doesn't say anything about ever changing the oil. Those gears require such little lubrication that it's likely that as long as there's uncontaminated oil in the gearbox that it will last a lifetime. If you'll read the comments on this video you'll find a lot of folks have 30+ year old cutters and have never considered changing the oil and they work fine.
Mike, my bush hog doesn’t have a drain plug either. Where did you get the oil sucking thing from?
Richard, we've had that one for decades, my dad probably got it somewhere and I inherited it. There's a similar one that got good reviews on my Amazon Affiliate page here: www.amazon.com/shop/tractormike/list/1QDZ7XPK57E49
Bought a well used bushog, added 90w oil to gearbox only to then find out there was grease in there. Reckon I need to do something or will the mix not hurt anything?
As long as it's not overfilled it probably won't hurt anything. If it starts blasting out the fill plug or a vent cap, there's too much in there and you need to lower the level. You might want to slowly loosen the fill plug after you've been using it a while to make sure it's not building up pressure from being overfilled.
Hey Mike I almost hate to ask but I have not seen anything about this topic yet. PTO? More specifically a 2 position clutch, or over riding clutch or live PTO. I have a Kubota L3301DT and I have places where I have to back into a tight space with my brush cutter. With the clutch in the PTO does not operate. I end up with a small area that does not get cut because as I let the clutch out I am moving before the PTO has the brush cutter up to speed. I have the same issue with my garden. Part of it is fenced and I back up to the fence shift to forward let off the clutch and drop the rotovator but I have lost several feet while the tractor is moving forward and the rotovator is getting up to speed and being dropped into place. Oh yes, I am an old man but a newbie tractor owner/operator.
Steve, I hate to tell you, but I don't have a good solution. That's the problem with a transmission-driven PTO.
Back up to where you want to mow put your transmission in neutral, let your clutch out with the ptp on and it will mow . Then put transmission in gear and move and mow out of there . Yeah , my growing up on a A John Deere has paid off .
It's a lot easier to suck that oil out of there if you will go to the parts store and buy you a little cheap transfer pump
I need to do this on mine. Where do you find the suction device?
Mark, we've had that one for decades, my dad probably got it somewhere and I inherited it. There's a similar one that got good reviews on my Amazon Affiliate page here: www.amazon.com/shop/tractormike/list/1QDZ7XPK57E49
@@TractorMike Found one and it came in today. Paint pens too. Thanks..
Lol. “Death to Locust”! 😂
Cicadas?
In Missouri, the term "Locust" is usually used for about 3 types of trees. Honey Locust. Black Locust, and sometimes Osage orange. All have extremely nasty thorns. And all are unusually invasive
Yup, I have one that has no thorns and I let it live. They're pretty when they don't have the massive thorns.
Cornhead grease.
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Good demo on brush hog...thanks
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I saw it but I don't remember that part, I'll put that on the list to go back and watch sometime. I play in a little band and we've been learning that song and it was the first thing that came to mind.
Thought you might like to know that Chehalis is locally pronounced sh-hay-less. Nice video!!
Yeah, you can tell I'm not from around there...I hope I got it right in my last video, my apologies!
Milky oil is always bad. I've also found even dealers sometimes overfill gear cases instead of correctly filling them to the level of the fill plug on the side. Death to locust indeed!
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Please remove the fill plug before removing the drain plug, just in case you can't get the fill plug out. Also I don't believe grease will dissipate heat as well as oil. Best,
Run the brush hog over a few acres on a good hot summer day and the water will evaporate out. Given the gear box is properly vented.
I just bought a Titan and it calls for liquid grease
I don't like grease in gear box only oil
money must be long ...
Watching your last two "Bush Hog" episodes, I have not seen any
inspection of the cutting blades. Does that mean that the blades
never need attention?
We're eat up with hemlock and hedgeapple
If an air vent or breather is on the gearbox - clean it .
That oil level thing has always baffled me. Does it really need all that headroom? Or is it merely the least amount of oil needed? I suspect it's the latter.
I bet if ya left it within a half-inch of the top for expansion it'd be fine.
Thats not 80 weight came outta there
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We can do without the singing.....
Try not to sing for money